This HAS to be the most unusual talking machine mechanism ever devised. I've watched this video nine times and continue to be fascinated. Thank you! FIVE STARS.
Fire hazards were taken somewhat less seriously in the old days. It definitely was a hazard, and from all reports quite a few were damaged or destroyed by fire. I don't take chances, I never leave this one unattended while in operation.
It is wonderful to see a Phonograph with Stirling Engine Hot Air Motor. It is an example of actual use of a Stirling engine marketed at the time. Congratulations on the video, was excellent. Armando Barlotti
The clear advantage of this phonograph is that you would never have to wind it as long as there was alcohol in the tank. They probably used these at parties to play continuous music. Very neat!
There is a governor in the phonograph part of the mechanism, which is mounted above the Stirling engine part. You can see the governor start to spin when the spindle of the turntable is pulled up to start the phonograph, and also watch it stop at the end of the video when the spindle is pushed back down. This governor can regulate the speed of the turntable to whatever revolutions per minute are required.
If you look at the machine, there is a big mica heat shield around the hot end of the engine as well as a horn on the side of the machine which direct the waste heat away from it.
This was formerly in the famous Dave Heitz collection. No one knows how many were originally made. There are 3 known to survive in the US and 2 in Canada. I know of 4 or 5 in Europe but I suspect there are several more unreported ones.
I got one exactly the same gramophone. I need help with the mechanism. The motor works but for only a minute. But when it starts to work opposite direction it sometimes works 30min non stop.
Return visit to see this video once again. What a treat to see this machine in operation. Thank you for this valuable and instructive posting. FIVE STARS.
Wow, an alcohol burning phonograph. I didn't know such a thing existed, and now I want one! Too bad I can't even afford a conventional external horn phono, let alone that one! Wow and flutter? Yes! Rumble? You bet! It's still cool!
Would be interesting if a modern version of this could be created that would play 33s and 45s while having a small generator to power a small amp for speakers.
That's amazing. I've looked at a lot of phonographs, but that's the first I've seen one like that . I wonder why it wasn't considered a fire hazard. Would it be today? I mean, the cabinet is made out of wood.
I'm afraid that finding one is a long shot. These are truly rare. There are only 5 known in north America: 3 in the US and 2 in Canada. A few more exist in Europe, total unknown. They are extremely rare and hardly ever come on the market.
you would constantly pay for alcohol but you can't save up enough to buy a computer made within this millennia? I call BS. It's not the computers fault that you are horrible with money.
It really is a work of art this work. I wonder if there is a change in velocity? If so, the mechanism resets to the disk always scroll at the same speed? Greetings from Brazil, Leandro Wagne
Yeah I believe so. Now you're not limited in a listening session by how long your arm can hold up to winding the clock motor over and over again. Instead, now the limiting factor is how many needles you have in your needle tin, since this was still the era of steel needles that had to be changed after every side to prevent record damage.
What a surprise it's a wonderful unbelievable machine is available for purchase if yes then how much price of this machine you are great for the interoduce thank you very much
Paillard? I wonder if this is the same Swiss Paillard that also made the Bolex cine cameras? As far as fire hazards taken less seriously, they used to use candles on Christmas trees! What were they thinking?
Hello, are you still here? I would like you to upload another video conveying the individual parts of the gramophone with greater detail. It's very important that I understand how this works for a project of mine
wow that thing is awesome. I never seen anything like that before. I don't know why, but when i saw that little horn thing on the side, and read all these comments about how dangerous it is, I thought that a big flame shot out of that little horn... LOL i'm a loser haha
Oh yes, also of course this would be how you got long playing sessions before electric motors started becoming common in consumer equipment and before widespread electrification.
I think its because the machine was/is a potential fire hazard. You have to keep a constant eye to make sure that the machine does not overheat or catch on fire as well as when your done listening to the music, you put out the fire. Some people tend to become lazy or pre-occupied when they have music on, so that's when it becomes dangerous.
So the phrase, "I think I'll fire up the turntable" was taken literally!
This HAS to be the most unusual talking machine mechanism ever devised. I've watched this video nine times and continue to be fascinated. Thank you!
FIVE STARS.
Fire hazards were taken somewhat less seriously in the old days. It definitely was a hazard, and from all reports quite a few were damaged or destroyed by fire. I don't take chances, I never leave this one unattended while in operation.
This was no problem;there were 75 candles and 10 oil lamps going at the same time
No more a hazard than a lit candle or oil lamp, people were much smarter back then, had more common sense than the morons today.
dont be too OVER DRAMATIC.
Who would. This thing is amazing.
In fact, most of these didn't survive.
It is wonderful to see a Phonograph with Stirling Engine Hot Air Motor. It is an example of actual use of a Stirling engine marketed at the time.
Congratulations on the video, was excellent.
Armando Barlotti
Fantastic! An intersection of genius and madness. A beautiful horn on it too.
The clear advantage of this phonograph is that you would never have to wind it as long as there was alcohol in the tank. They probably used these at parties to play continuous music. Very neat!
There is a governor in the phonograph part of the mechanism, which is mounted above the Stirling engine part. You can see the governor start to spin when the spindle of the turntable is pulled up to start the phonograph, and also watch it stop at the end of the video when the spindle is pushed back down. This governor can regulate the speed of the turntable to whatever revolutions per minute are required.
Full scale steam engines were governed in the same way. I am amazed at the lack of perceptible 'wow' and 'flutter'
Honey, can you light the phonograph?
paulj0557 haha That comment made me smile
A very unique early phonograph. It never ceases to amaze me, the mechanical devices that were thought up in the late 1800's and early 20th century.
I have never saw something like this feul phonograph .. Wow, can you make a cup of coffee with this fuel and music !
Never even thought about this idea,so neat,now I want one,thanks for sharing😮
Now I know why the Sterling engine was invented\designed. :)
Amazing partnership of two superb mechanical devices.
Incredible! A major rarity. Fascinating mechanism. Thank you for this video.
If you look at the machine, there is a big mica heat shield around the hot end of the engine as well as a horn on the side of the machine which direct the waste heat away from it.
If the furnace ever quits working, not a problem, just play a few records to warm up!
That is unbelievable i am so shocked i never thought there was such a thing! Amazing :)
I was just going to write the same thing but you did!!!!!!!!!
Thats the craziest thing I've ever seen. Well done.
wow two of my favorite things combined i need to find one of these its so rare ive nvr eben heard of one till now suprisingly
They must have been really hot song-hits
This is SO awesome! I machined a sterling engine in my high school machine shop out of billet aluminum and brass that runs off a propane torch.
This was formerly in the famous Dave Heitz collection. No one knows how many were originally made. There are 3 known to survive in the US and 2 in Canada. I know of 4 or 5 in Europe but I suspect there are several more unreported ones.
I got one exactly the same gramophone. I need help with the mechanism. The motor works but for only a minute. But when it starts to work opposite direction it sometimes works 30min non stop.
Return visit to see this video once again. What a treat to see this machine in operation. Thank you for this valuable and instructive posting. FIVE STARS.
Wow, an alcohol burning phonograph. I didn't know such a thing existed, and now I want one! Too bad I can't even afford a conventional external horn phono, let alone that one! Wow and flutter? Yes! Rumble? You bet! It's still cool!
That hissing sound make it sound like it's scratching through the grooves.
It's nice but still a bit scary! A bit scary but perhaps better than the phonograph which ran off of a water tap.
that was used to douse the fire this one made
This is a wonderful piece of history. You really have an awesome collection of machines. Thanks for sharing!
what a beautiful machine
Thank you for sharing such a wonderful machine. Great video 👍😎
Would be interesting if a modern version of this could be created that would play 33s and 45s while having a small generator to power a small amp for speakers.
That's amazing. I've looked at a lot of phonographs, but that's the first I've seen one like that . I wonder why it wasn't considered a fire hazard. Would it be today? I mean, the cabinet is made out of wood.
Wood is a great insulator for a while
Quite an interesting talking machine! Thanks for posting this
What an amazing idea what could possibly go wrong as the listener goes comatose on petrol fumes 🤤
It runs on Blue Meths.
@@deutschedog3259 or the listener becomes a Meths drinker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ok NOW ive seen everything!! that is awesome!
I'm afraid that finding one is a long shot. These are truly rare. There are only 5 known in north America: 3 in the US and 2 in Canada. A few more exist in Europe, total unknown. They are extremely rare and hardly ever come on the market.
Very nice❤❤
Amazing!
That is absolutely amazing!
It would be so cool if my computer started up like that. With all the time it takes, it may as well have an alcohol powered motor.
This comment is now almost vintage in 2020 😂👍🏼
you would constantly pay for alcohol but you can't save up enough to buy a computer made within this millennia? I call BS. It's not the computers fault that you are horrible with money.
I see a flyball governor mounted horizontally underneath the turntable, so I would imagine that would take care of the speed issues.
Very interesting and well done. Many conratulations!
It really is a work of art this work. I wonder if there is a change in velocity? If so, the mechanism resets to the disk always scroll at the same speed?
Greetings from Brazil,
Leandro Wagne
Some kind of governor with weights that fly out relative to speed perhaps
Wooooahh... Is amazing...
Love this!
unbelievable x)
very very nice..
good condition!
Yeah I believe so. Now you're not limited in a listening session by how long your arm can hold up to winding the clock motor over and over again. Instead, now the limiting factor is how many needles you have in your needle tin, since this was still the era of steel needles that had to be changed after every side to prevent record damage.
I want one of those. It's got a piston. Cool.
Please, rebuild the reproducer; it will sound so much better.
these things are good to keep around.
What a surprise it's a wonderful unbelievable machine is available for purchase if yes then how much price of this machine you are great for the interoduce thank you very much
incredible! Who is the inventor of this engineering?
Wow , never heard of that
Incredibile!!!
That is GREAT!!!!!! Amazing
hello tahnk u for posting... just saw once before in st croix (switzerland).where those paillard gramophone where done...
This plays very nicely and sounds great! Where did you get this amazing machine? About how many of these hot air phonographs were made?
Thanks
Thats some smart engineering back in the day. Where did you get such a find?
VERY COOL
Paillard? I wonder if this is the same Swiss Paillard that also made the Bolex cine cameras? As far as fire hazards taken less seriously, they used to use candles on Christmas trees! What were they thinking?
Nice...look like speed good for 78rpm
I have one, including a spare motor (in its original wooden box).
Tried it once and the thing nearly caught fire.
Motor? No That's An Engine.
Is this machine of yours driven by a Beta Stirling Engine? I ask for I do not see where the Displacer Piston is.
Beautiful Machine! The open glass case adds sauce to the goose. About as dangerous as a kerosene lamp IMO.
The people who designed this must've been full of hot air.
Hello, are you still here? I would like you to upload another video conveying the individual parts of the gramophone with greater detail. It's very important that I understand how this works for a project of mine
wow that thing is awesome. I never seen anything like that before. I don't know why, but when i saw that little horn thing on the side, and read all these comments about how dangerous it is, I thought that a big flame shot out of that little horn... LOL i'm a loser haha
nice!
Looks like its using a sonora nocturne speed adjuster
Oh yes, also of course this would be how you got long playing sessions before electric motors started becoming common in consumer equipment and before widespread electrification.
I think its because the machine was/is a potential fire hazard. You have to keep a constant eye to make sure that the machine does not overheat or catch on fire as well as when your done listening to the music, you put out the fire. Some people tend to become lazy or pre-occupied when they have music on, so that's when it becomes dangerous.
Someone wrote in Wikipedia that are just about 12 in the whole world.
Nice machine! what song is it?
Speed adjustment and constancy must be a nightmare. Wasn't there once another machine that used gas fed flames across a sort of harp within the horn?
That's a charming song, what's it called?
How much was that thing?
That was a nice record you played on this, what is it?
very interesting
I would have used a Doors record, Great video. :)
I would have played somethin from 1914
with the heat this thing puts out how do you keep the record from warping?
Just saw one on American Pickers,piqued my interest.
maximum warmth
So clearly the benefit of this would be no cranking? More continuous play of records?
I love steam punk engineering!
for sale?
oopsy. to continue the earlier comment....
but it would have taken time for the water to boil so the music could be played. would it????
^_^
Prety Steampunkish
Muito bacana
is it possible to buy it in Europe ?
What song is playing on it?
I have a reproducer for one of these.
it's genius
It's a clever idea but it's not hard to see why these never really caught on
@themadhacker2 It's cheaper and easier to buy isopropyl alcohol at Rite Aid ...
I can see why this didn't take off
ah ok. thats the problem when i make comments halfway up the video. so you dont need to wait but can manually start it.
@themadhacker2 Power it with moonshine to play Memphis Minnie records...
Sooppr
very early heating boiler
Tin
alcohol. so could I say, power this on moonshine because that is cheap and easy to make.
HAMMER TEIL