What Happened to WINNER - The Original Monster Rookies of Kpop

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  • Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
  • A little editorial on my thoughts on What Happened to WINNER, WINNER members, Win Who Is Next? WINNER and iKON, WINNER Monster Rookies, WINNER fastest win in kpop, Nam Taehyun Leaves WINNER, WINNER change in music, WINNER Really Really, Where is WINNER Now?
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  • @InternetsNathan
    @InternetsNathan  3 года назад +2454

    WINNER has always been one of my favorites not for their songs but for their artistry. If you haven't listened to them before, listen TODAY! Who should I cover in the NEXT What Happened video? Comment below!

    • @kimble90126
      @kimble90126 3 года назад +16

      What happened to boyfriend please

    • @rpiyaas
      @rpiyaas 3 года назад +19

      Honey popcorn, or like a 2nd gen group, like super junior, shinee, or even 3rd and 4th gen, like NCT and there millions or sub-groups , mamamoo.

    • @youneednamjesushoe1759
      @youneednamjesushoe1759 3 года назад +2

      Please do honey popcorn! Their story is very interesting

    • @JiaPia3
      @JiaPia3 3 года назад +3

      You said my name right! Wow, thank you!

    • @reynaldomontanojr9303
      @reynaldomontanojr9303 3 года назад +6

      I have an idea Internets Nathan, Can you do of what will happen to BTS

  • @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159
    @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159 3 года назад +4818

    "I wouldn't call them idols, I'd call them artists." PERIOD

  • @Amina-nx1ys
    @Amina-nx1ys 3 года назад +2784

    people who think that winner are flops are usually the i-kpopers , these men swipe the charts and get an ALL KILL with every release , digital monsters indeed

    • @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159
      @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159 3 года назад +97

      SAY IT LOUDER

    • @Clovesugarsugar
      @Clovesugarsugar 3 года назад +259

      Also they ruled University/Public Summer Festivals in the past 3 years, which is an impressive achievement for a boy group. Boy group is rarely invited in that kind of event, but Winner was consistenly being invited, which shows how the gp loves Winner.

    • @geea.9340
      @geea.9340 3 года назад +301

      The only ones that think they're flops are kpoppies who base a group's success with YT views. WINNER may be not that "big" internationally compared to newer groups, but they really slay in SK. And I'm sure WINNER will stay relevant after many years, just look how they're booked left & right with variety/radio program guestings, modeling gigs, CF, drama, mostly searched on MelOn ALL WHILE ON HIATUS.

    • @peace_wise2809
      @peace_wise2809 3 года назад +144

      If they don't have youtube views or don't make it high on billboard,then they are flops. That's their logic but I really appreciate VIP's they don't even know bb held some record until it's broken NOW. That's how clueless and unbothered they are . I learnt a lot from Vip,Ic,stays,carats. Most grateful and unbothered fandoms that just focus on their faves and appreciate them equally.

    • @amy_ambrosio
      @amy_ambrosio 3 года назад +52

      They're always TT in many countries over the world and they're hugely beloved in Korea, I'm so proud of being an IC since their WIN era and I feel so proud of our fandom. Sells doesn't lie, we're awesome. >u

  • @AC-ji5mk
    @AC-ji5mk 3 года назад +1526

    FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT. WINNER did the online concerts first.

  • @geea.9340
    @geea.9340 3 года назад +1533

    I agree with everything you said about WINNER. But I'd also like to add one thing that sets them apart from other idol groups. WINNER members are proactive when it comes to calling out toxic fan behavior. They make fans aware that there's a certain line they cannot cross. They don't tolerate things for the sake of fan service. No wonder you'd rarely see an Inseo misbehave, because WINNER raised us well. If only more idol groups will do it like them, maybe K-Pop fans aren't as toxic as now.

    • @piezae3012
      @piezae3012 3 года назад +61

      THIS COMMENT DESERVES MORE LIKES🌚

    • @BlueFandom__W_SJ
      @BlueFandom__W_SJ 3 года назад +17

      I Agree! ^^

    • @erenevynaigal537
      @erenevynaigal537 3 года назад +8

      i agree

    • @Nzsh
      @Nzsh 3 года назад +58

      Bcs they scared their fans might left the fandom. But our boys love us sincerely more than treat us like cash cow shitter. I just love them so much more than i can put into words. Their genuine passion towards music incredibly beautiful.

    • @geea.9340
      @geea.9340 3 года назад +55

      @@Nzsh yup! That's a good point too. I've been a long time K-Pop fan but I fell hard for WINNER. First, because of their music, second, because of their genuineness as persons, third, because of the fandom. ICs are so warm and welcoming, I feel home.

  • @Elle-kn5nx
    @Elle-kn5nx 3 года назад +1357

    If you stan Winner. You stan music. Honestly, they're the best in making B-sides sounds like title tracks, plus every songs that's dedicated to the fans are just chefs kiss~

    • @yoonenthusiast
      @yoonenthusiast 3 года назад +14

      True. My top 3 songs from WINNER are B-sides songs 🤣

    • @venessav195
      @venessav195 3 года назад +10

      I love their b-sides so much. Anytime someone asks for Kpop song recommendations Winner for sure is on the list.

    • @minothemapohipster608
      @minothemapohipster608 3 года назад +2

      agreee

    • @ezyx3977
      @ezyx3977 3 года назад +7

      You're right! I love how experimental they are with their B-sides!

    • @reiluvi
      @reiluvi 3 года назад +2

      YESSS

  • @xxxvipiconce3544
    @xxxvipiconce3544 3 года назад +677

    As far as I know, no group has ever taken the record for their first win after debut. According to the dates WINNER is still the fastest group to do it.

    • @mercado4501
      @mercado4501 3 года назад +81

      Yes. The win is not counted since it's a pre recorded. It's only counted when it's air on tv. So, W still holds the title.

    • @teebankim7436
      @teebankim7436 3 года назад +15

      yes. that's what I want to comment as well.

    • @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159
      @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159 3 года назад +6

      RIGHT

    • @marygrace7781
      @marygrace7781 3 года назад +35

      Yes Winner still holds as the fastest group to win after debut

    • @xxtttccc
      @xxtttccc 3 года назад +24

      u r absolutely right. Winner still hold the record.

  • @SievmeyLy
    @SievmeyLy 3 года назад +260

    WINNER’s record as fastest group to win 1st has never been broken by anyone. WINNER is still the record holder. It’s been clarified by X1’s and WINNER’s fans after long argument.

    • @Lajririrkt
      @Lajririrkt 3 года назад +3

      Just Because of the rules of music shows nowadays.. but well keep saying because that’s the only & one nice record of one hit wonder group winner. , flopper..

    • @missarayt
      @missarayt 3 года назад +32

      @@Lajririrkt Rude and rough. Winner is not flop. They are famous in Korea. They have a record and be proud of that. You are misjudging them.

    • @missarayt
      @missarayt 3 года назад +21

      @@Lajririrkt By the way, try to not be biased. Try to be mature.

    • @ezyx3977
      @ezyx3977 3 года назад +1

      @@missarayt Dont mind that commenter. They have been camping in this comment section spreading hate 😂 Let's just focus on WINNER.

    • @missarayt
      @missarayt 3 года назад +1

      @@ezyx3977 I know right. I checked several comments and this bulldog literally every one of them. Happy late anniversary to Winner by the way

  • @everj2jjam
    @everj2jjam 3 года назад +435

    Aside from Bigbang, Winner is the only YG group where every member could be a solo artist. Before Jinwoo and Seunghoon enlistment, everyone of them had participated in shows as solo, not as group. Each of them offers different charms. Mino had a successful solo, recognized as rapper and artist, and a variety gem. Yoon is all-rounder, off and on cam, he can host and act plus his getting his solo CB. Hoon was well-known dancer, a natural funny man and he might probably will get his solo promos after enlistment. Jinwoo had his solo, also a favorite in variety and might probably will go to acting after enlistment. They can stand on their own while not dragging down the whole team as WINNER. That's how also BigBang is. Winner may not have achieve what had Bigbang had but they already found their music and fortunately, the members mature and will still grow as artists.

    • @piezae3012
      @piezae3012 3 года назад +7

      I LOVE WINNER and BIGBANG ..even tho these two groups are Very Distinctly Different from Each Other💙💛💙💛

    • @Lajririrkt
      @Lajririrkt 3 года назад +2

      Blackpink will come soon...

    • @missarayt
      @missarayt 3 года назад

      @@Lajririrkt I really hope that they will do that...

    • @izumibin1913
      @izumibin1913 2 года назад +8

      that "winner is the only yg group that could be solo" when you have blackpink, ikon, treasure, akmu...
      u can praise winner but don't underestimate other yg groups.
      anywas other than that, u agree,winner is a group that has great in individuality and they achieved that even their trainee days the reason why YG comparing them to iKON its because they don't have a great sense of "TEAMWORK" back then, they were lacking at those. but gladly that tjey achieved it when they debuted.

    • @dwzxliytrteuiwm8665
      @dwzxliytrteuiwm8665 2 года назад +6

      Tbh, seeing what Bigbang has gone through, I lowkey wishing Winner stay 'hidden' from haters and immature fans. We all know how crazy kpop fans nowadays. I want Winner stays like now. I love their pace, I love their songs, their music colors, their classy charisma, and also their fans, one of my top 3 fav fandoms ever haha. I don't need Winner to be bigger, I only want them to last as long as they want, and to be free to do anything they want as Winner.

  • @nandaaa3273
    @nandaaa3273 3 года назад +387

    No lie here but my mom LOVES Winner. She is an inner circle. Winner made my mom happy when she was sad. She even has a light stick and all albums and merch ☺️😌
    Edit: did I mention that my mom literally bought plane tickets for us to go see winner in Japan

  • @lightscamerakalimah2828
    @lightscamerakalimah2828 3 года назад +839

    I call it every time. I said, “ he should do winner next.” Must be my lucky day😅😅

    • @jxwlxnx
      @jxwlxnx 3 года назад +13

      Honestly when he did the iKon video a while back I was thinking when is he gonna do it and when I saw the guess thing I was so happy

    • @lightscamerakalimah2828
      @lightscamerakalimah2828 3 года назад

      Graciela Montano ummm.. maybe twice or red velvet since he did a boy group this time 🤓

    • @rrr-uv8cx
      @rrr-uv8cx 3 года назад

      thank you for requesting Winner 💙

  • @ygdragonmino7782
    @ygdragonmino7782 3 года назад +186

    Innercircle - The fandom who stan quality instead of popularity.

    • @subhanishaik-fb5qj
      @subhanishaik-fb5qj 3 года назад +3

      Ofcouse winner is the best, but the groups that become poupular only,,after a lots of hardwork and effort they put in their music

    • @ygdragonmino7782
      @ygdragonmino7782 3 года назад

      @@subhanishaik-fb5qj You should not generalize that tho

  • @snorkfyren
    @snorkfyren 3 года назад +311

    winner soso is so underrated, it's what got me into them

    • @rrr-uv8cx
      @rrr-uv8cx 3 года назад +7

      it's a masterpiece 💙

    • @roculwho
      @roculwho 3 года назад +6

      ms. SoSo issa bop but yg didnt promote it well.

    • @zeynepf.7650
      @zeynepf.7650 3 года назад +1

      Yes. The reason is song didn't charted well but yeah Idc too much about charts I just like different music

    • @Lajririrkt
      @Lajririrkt 3 года назад +2

      Soso ? You mean 10 m in 10 months. LMAO. Rats will say view can’t determine song impact blah blah. But the real hit song will not get like this 10m in 10 months LMAO.

    • @missarayt
      @missarayt 3 года назад +11

      @@Lajririrkt Winner is not so popular internationally. They are famous in Korea. Korean Innercircles stream more than international Innercircles. By the way, Views doesn't make them unpopular or popular. They are just underappreciated.

  • @springszn
    @springszn 3 года назад +1142

    “Wrapping up WINNER’s story I wouldn’t call them KPOP idols, I’d call them artists. No other KPOP group makes you feel like WINNER makes you feel. And if you’ll learn one thing from WINNER, learn that being different isn’t something to look down on, being different is what makes you special.”
    Exactly. Thank you Nathan for featuring WINNER and for your genuine kind words! 🌻

    • @lovekiss
      @lovekiss 3 года назад +15

      This comment of his made me teared up because it is my biggest reason why I stan WINNER and why I love them

    • @charisseanneigaran2521
      @charisseanneigaran2521 3 года назад +4

      Almost cried for this line 🥺🥺🥺

    • @victorias6142
      @victorias6142 3 года назад

      i cried

    • @infinitesession5439
      @infinitesession5439 3 года назад +1

      Actually Winner has always given me BIGBANG Vibes. Its because of that is why I like them so much. There is honestly no other group in YG that is similar to Bigbang than Winner in artistic style and creativity. Though I would saybthe same argument for alot of YG artists.

  • @matthewjade3684
    @matthewjade3684 3 года назад +367

    fun fact: 7/9 of Winner title tracks got #1 in major Korean charts 😌

    • @aimee1005
      @aimee1005 3 года назад +15

      Isn't 8 out of 11 if we will include Hold as their pre-released song?
      And 10 out of 11 entered Melon Top 10, but 11 out of 11 entered Genie, Bugs & Soribada Top 10.
      Melon Highest Peak*
      Empty to Ah Yeah - #1
      Soso - #11
      Hold - #2
      Remember - #4

    • @immatureme5986
      @immatureme5986 3 года назад +4

      @@aimee1005 I think that WINNER'S strongest listener to their music is the general public. So after the yg scandal when the general public decided to boycott yg, WINNER was the most affected by the scandal and their songs released after the scandal didn't chart well

    • @blinkteume2181
      @blinkteume2181 3 года назад

      @@immatureme5986 also hold and remember didn’t had much promotion. Remember because jinu and hoony enlisted a few days or weeks after it was released

    • @letshihi
      @letshihi 3 года назад

      @@immatureme5986fyi they are not charted as well as they do because sajaegi case. Winner a biggest sajaegi victims

  • @monstrepical
    @monstrepical 3 года назад +456

    Im sorry but winner still holds the record of fastest bg to win in music show. And i think it cannot break anymore cos of the new rules of music show, unless they return it back like before.

    • @zane3125
      @zane3125 3 года назад

      YEP

    • @lily8249
      @lily8249 3 года назад +2

      how did it change and how many days would the apparently new no 1 (x1) lag behind if it was with the old system?

    • @its.errica
      @its.errica 3 года назад

      Didn’t Nathan mention that the record was broken by X1?

  • @leyan3320
    @leyan3320 3 года назад +274

    Still wondering how Really Really didn't win SOTY

    • @reiluvi
      @reiluvi 3 года назад +22

      signal wasn't the real soty

    • @jseeunluvr
      @jseeunluvr 3 года назад +47

      biggest robbery in kpop :/

    • @SoSBxo
      @SoSBxo 3 года назад +38

      really really or even red flavor.. damn, 2017 was a great year!

    • @blackpinkxblink9057
      @blackpinkxblink9057 3 года назад +21

      also love scenario. always robbing yg artist just to give who attends. really really and love scenario deserve soty of 2017 and 2018.

    • @hj6431
      @hj6431 3 года назад +3

      @@blackpinkxblink9057 love scenery has got soty not on mama but on mma I think....

  • @8b36ujwalkarthikvasepalli2
    @8b36ujwalkarthikvasepalli2 3 года назад +1366

    Winner is the biggest gem in YGE, and you can't deny that.
    Of course everyone was talented, but Winner was something different and I can't explain it
    [Edit]People, I'm not putting down any groups, all YGE groups are incredibly talented and different, I'm just highlighting how different Winner is. Ofcourse Big and and 2ne1 are also different. Please understand the context of my comment ❤️

    • @marygrace7781
      @marygrace7781 3 года назад +59

      Omg!!! Same just give them the spotlight and give them a chance... Just so sad that yg wasted their youth for giving them 1.5 yr hiatus after debuting, only WINNER treated that way unlike other groups in yg they comeback after debut in just months...

    • @charlenesampaga3706
      @charlenesampaga3706 3 года назад +9

      Mary Grace I think its bcz of taehyun’s health thats why it was halted

    • @maximilianfreinschlag4104
      @maximilianfreinschlag4104 3 года назад +32

      Nah, Bigbang and 2ne1 were just as unique. Every member of those 3 groups was special.

    • @bangpink2278
      @bangpink2278 3 года назад +6

      2ne1 tho~

    • @marygrace7781
      @marygrace7781 3 года назад +16

      @@charlenesampaga3706 th was still there after debut. It wasn't Bec of mental health, it was Bec yg debuted his fave, he focused on them and let W rot, th left after exit

  • @S4mmj3QQ
    @S4mmj3QQ 3 года назад +601

    One fun fact about the Cross Tour, Hochiminh City was added later because they promised Vietnamese fans they would come back, and they did. Vietnam was not on the list because the company did not think it would make any money, but our leader Yoon specifically asked for it. WINNER IS THE BEST!!!!

  • @pokpokishification
    @pokpokishification 2 года назад +6

    this suddenly showed up again on my recommendations. winner is coming back in between enlistments on july 5th 2022

  • @AC-ji5mk
    @AC-ji5mk 3 года назад +349

    I don't know if it's been said before, but I love how specific WINNER gets with their concerts. Going to Thailand? Let's do a BP song cs it's Lisa's home. Philippines? Let's learn Tagalog and dance to a local pop hit. There's always something special about their concerts that it doesn't feel like "I don't want to bother with going cs it's gonna end up on a DVD and I can watch it from there" like you'd almost WANT to be in EVERY concert just to get a kick out of what they're gonna do next. WINNER BEST BOIS INDEED

    • @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159
      @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159 3 года назад +4

      PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!

    • @jih7109
      @jih7109 3 года назад +2

      indeed!

    • @gfriyandiny
      @gfriyandiny 3 года назад +20

      Yes and i realize that Yoon is improved his english skill on Cross tour! He really studying well after Everywhere tour only for communicating better with us :')

    • @AC-ji5mk
      @AC-ji5mk 3 года назад +6

      @@gfriyandiny yeah he did, and Jinu and Hoon spoke in Filo. Idc if that's from a teleprompt or wut but the fact they made an effort is always touching 💙

    • @gfriyandiny
      @gfriyandiny 3 года назад +12

      @@AC-ji5mk and Hoon especially dancing Tala!! Woaa i would be very happy if i was Philiphines IC

  • @deniselovely4094
    @deniselovely4094 3 года назад +281

    They once felt like an "ugly duckling" of their company but in reality, they've become the BEAUTIFUL SWAN at YG. I missed them everyday 💙💙

    • @laramiaizz
      @laramiaizz 3 года назад +1

      When did they feel that? All of them are naturally good looking..

    • @deniselovely4094
      @deniselovely4094 3 года назад +2

      @@laramiaizz they mentioned that in their appearance at JYP's Party People.

    • @holiday_ai219
      @holiday_ai219 3 года назад +5

      @@laramiaizz they said that bcoz they produce different kind of music genre.. Not that typical YG vibes.

    • @user-ey1ms7dj8i
      @user-ey1ms7dj8i 3 года назад

      I love their music so much specially before when they still have nam taehyun

  • @SyifaTiara
    @SyifaTiara 3 года назад +816

    In the middle of edm noisy musics in kpop i found WINNER’s music like a miracle. Their music have laidback mood and summer songs bop. No wonder WINNER have massive support in korea hitting #1 in MELON even though they’re not really big Int. Also aside from their musics, each personality of the members really gotten me into like them even more with their witty answers lol.

    • @liaqonis9200
      @liaqonis9200 3 года назад +31

      Yesssss, tbh I'm so tired with nowadays edm noisy music, it all feels the same, and I always go back to WINNER's music for healing

    • @erikascencen
      @erikascencen 3 года назад +5

      Mola was also "noisy edm" try again.its a bop tho playtube.ws/w4pm0cal42rv/WinnerChineseSingle.mp4.html

    • @fifisamantha
      @fifisamantha 3 года назад +7

      And my youtube automaticly play Winner's song, because before I always come to winner again and again..

    • @roselinedanelia5718
      @roselinedanelia5718 3 года назад +9

      @@erikascencen i really like mola!! Winner always tries something new and its so good i cant-

    • @SyifaTiara
      @SyifaTiara 3 года назад +9

      @@erikascencen and so are BOOM and EVERYDAY but those didn't have noisy beat drops i must say

  • @23kazel
    @23kazel 3 года назад +110

    4 Rappers
    4 Vocalists
    4 Dancers
    4 Visuals
    4 Composers, lyricists, producers
    Male-dols.
    Survival Shows avengers.
    Sunbae-Hoobae collector
    Variety show aces
    Everytime they appear in a show, the ratings spikes
    Adding these:
    Show/ contests Mentor, Judges and Producers
    Actor
    Photographer (Yoo Yeon)
    Painter (Ohnim)
    Instructor
    And never ever try to hate on WINNER. WINKARMA will definitely strike again hahahahaha

  • @marieb.9044
    @marieb.9044 3 года назад +72

    "I wouldn't call them idols, I'd call them artists." A LITTLE LOUDER FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK !!!!!!!!!!!! The power of WINNER

  • @salmifadh
    @salmifadh 3 года назад +170

    "And if you learned only 1 thing from WINNER, learn that being different isn't something to be looked down on. Being different is what makes you special."

  • @eunicedeleon5824
    @eunicedeleon5824 3 года назад +32

    Winner is more like a Home. You'd be wanting to explore other groups but at the end of the day, you'd go back home. There's nothing better than home. 🥺

  • @AnjayGanteng-ey8iz
    @AnjayGanteng-ey8iz Год назад +6

    Winner still hold on the record till now. They won in 4 daya

  • @emjaycruz9888
    @emjaycruz9888 3 года назад +276

    Dunno why everyone was saying X1 snatched the record for the fastest debut win when in fact they didn't. X1 first debut stage was Aug 27, then The Show broadcasted their 1st win on Sep. 3. Why would they count the win on Sep. 1 when it's clearly prerecorded? WINNER debut stage on Inkigayo was Aug 17, then they got their first win on Aug 21 at MCountdown. It's a very easy math:
    WINNER 1st win = 5 days
    X1 1st win = 8 days

    • @mybabypanda7498
      @mybabypanda7498 3 года назад +56

      True. Winner record has never and will never be broken. The current group must debut 7 days to get the first win.

    • @monstrepical
      @monstrepical 3 года назад +41

      This is true. I dont know why they spreading false info. I mean winner record cannot be broken anymore unless they return the rules before.

    • @lovelydiva06
      @lovelydiva06 3 года назад +29

      Kpop fans get too obsessed with numbers and whose first or best and it’s really annoying, what does it matter as long as their doing well and are a success

    • @jeeneemee315
      @jeeneemee315 3 года назад +28

      @@lovelydiva06 well it matters to us, Innercircle because it concerns WINNER

    • @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159
      @streamcallanytimebyjinu6159 3 года назад +36

      lovelyrosebw It's not being obsessed. It's just correcting a wrong information.

  • @mvni6554
    @mvni6554 3 года назад +367

    what happened was: yg has always treated them poorly, since pre-debut to taehyun leaving and them saying they had 50 songs in storage besides the EXIT project. they were never given true care.

    • @mvni6554
      @mvni6554 3 года назад +13

      also oh my god didn't thought seeing taehyun again woul make me cry that much

    • @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
      @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel 3 года назад +11

      Soon as the video stated they were under YG, I knew it was bad from the start.

    • @sengjvipforever.744
      @sengjvipforever.744 3 года назад +18

      Tf ? How can u release so many songs having so many artists in one agency ? It's not like Bighit which have only one or 2 groups. YG is known for perfection, YG gave full freedom to winner and supports them.

    • @sunnysunshine3267
      @sunnysunshine3267 3 года назад +30

      @@mvni6554 how do you truly know that behind close doors. Did you know how he worked on mino last album and made sure he had a very good neck brace to help with his neck, did you know that he never made them have crazy dances because again of mine's neck which if you knew anything about disc problems and the pain it causes in not just your neck area but other places would you still say he didn't care, when yoon got hurt at the festival and when they were meant to perform their song on the music chart show they cancelled it and got yoon to the hospital, did you also know that he let tae leave and cancelled his contract without him paying a fee a very big fee nope he let him go, I could go on but probably just think know everything that goes on and how they are truly mistreated. At least they can be completely different like akmu and have control of their creativity which takes time doing an album and they never get pressured but they can take their time.

    • @mvni6554
      @mvni6554 3 года назад +9

      @@sengjvipforever.744 the thing is, i never expected them to release 50+ songs in two years, i'm only stating that the members said they had so many songs written and for nothing, because they only released exit:e and the whole project was thrown away. yes, yg has many artists, and yes winner had ""freedom"", but i still think they're management was bullshit.

  • @JULIANA_MAJOR_ICH_LIEBE
    @JULIANA_MAJOR_ICH_LIEBE 3 года назад +8

    I really love this video. This man didn't lie, not even a word. Winner aren't idols anymore, they are artist! I said what I said.

  • @leeceejj
    @leeceejj 3 года назад +8

    Finding Winner is like finding yourself back after you got lost your identity from trying to fit in.

  • @S4mmj3QQ
    @S4mmj3QQ 3 года назад +709

    YG kinda ruined WINNER but they are so talented we can’t ignore. They basically did everything by themselves. They work so hard to be where they are today. I am so proud.

    • @charlenesampaga3706
      @charlenesampaga3706 3 года назад +73

      Xiaolongbao i dont think so. YG supported them and their decision.

    • @user-om1ef8is1f
      @user-om1ef8is1f 3 года назад +106

      I disagree, while other agencies are feeding their artists everything from choreography and composing, YGE make their artists to do that kind of stuff so the artist can show what they want to show to their fans, that's the reason they can't release music quickly as like the others.

    • @ritikamandal2121
      @ritikamandal2121 3 года назад +70

      I disagree to this . Kudos to YGE for letting groups like Winner , thrive in the first place . They allowed them to grow in the pace they want , and their artistic approach has been different and yes I yell an yes to that , because what matters is Quality at the end , for me .I have never been hungry for anything else , when it comes to music , I just want my favs to continue making quality stuffs . Quality is diverse , it can be the beats , the drops or the messages . YGE has let Winner stay in their own preferred genre , which I STAN !

    • @lopezvegapaoladelvalle2570
      @lopezvegapaoladelvalle2570 3 года назад +53

      They never ruined anything, YG just have artist, it's true they put lots of pressure on their idols but each of them follow their own path and learned to take the lead in theirs careers until they got ready to kill it again.

    • @saram6124
      @saram6124 3 года назад +37

      sure. another clueless yge hater. yes. they did everything by themselves. from promotion to hairstyle to directing their videos. why does yge even exist. 🤡

  • @christiner7076
    @christiner7076 3 года назад +289

    "I wouldn't call them kpop idols, I'd call them artists. No other kpop group makes you feel how WINNER makes you feel. And if you learned only 1 thing from WINNER, learn that being different isn't something to be looked down on. Being different is what makes you special."
    And these are our very same thoughts. Always! My same reason for loving and appreciating these guys. So thank you! 😊💙

  • @ickksl4310
    @ickksl4310 2 года назад +10

    CONFIRMED IN NAVER REAL NOW: WINNER WON 1ST WIN AFTER ONLY 4 DAYS
    DEBUT: August 17, 2014
    1ST WIN: August 21, 2014

  • @yunitaandriani3782
    @yunitaandriani3782 3 года назад +120

    WINNER doing so good. We don’t have big fandom but we stay calm and collected. We kick ass not only in chart but also in selling album. We doing good in solo too. Oh yeah not forget to mention that we hit almost all variety shows out there. So yeah we can said that WINNER now are good. 👑👑👑👑

    • @gisellerahman1709
      @gisellerahman1709 3 года назад +2

      Agree with you. Our fandom are so calm that makes me enjoy being here evenmore

    • @jonairaheilaareld
      @jonairaheilaareld 3 года назад

      They are not just good they are the best.....

    • @andreafirth3990
      @andreafirth3990 2 года назад

      Isn't it good to have a small and calm fandom ......😍

  • @matthewjade3684
    @matthewjade3684 3 года назад +192

    they still have the best and most unique debut concept up to this day. imo, no one has topped their beginning concept so far. if yg only didn't fuck up their promotions and made them go hiatus several times, they would have achieved more than what they have right now. imagine having a successful debut only to be shoved in the basement for a year and a half???? only in yg 🙄

  • @user-qk5je2rf7d
    @user-qk5je2rf7d 3 года назад +120

    I am a fan of Winner and although I just joined this fandom in 2018, the fandom and especially Winner didn’t really just walk on a flowery road.
    I expected that this will be talked about since this is what happened to WINNER but I will just share it with u guys.
    They are a monster rookie but After debuting in 2014, they are nowhere to be found on 2015 they are even on a verge of disbanding on 2016. YG throw Winner in Japan after debut and have almost 2 years of hiatus. No one really know what will happen to them because of YG. Imagine after debuting they are put on hiatus they are just rookies at that time. The fans even payed for their practice videos that the fans should get for free because they want to see Winner. And finally on 2017, they comeback but as 4 members. We call it FNF (fate number four). And they finally get what they deserve. Really Really is just a gem to us.
    They are just starting again in 2017 but they are now again on hiatus this 2020 because two of the members are already enlisted. Imagine a group experiencing hiatus for the 3rd time. (Their 1st hiatus is 1.5 years, 2nd is 1.2years and now we’ll see them again after 5 years.
    See? WINNER never had it easy. Some are hating them just because they are having a comeback? but having a comeback is what they deserve. They deserve to release their own musics. What Winner have now is thanks to them and to their fandom. We will just wait for them to comeback ☺️

    • @fifisamantha
      @fifisamantha 3 года назад +6

      Crying in corner of my room. Winner and IC are so strong. I'm proud of us.. It's okei, IC will always waiting for you Winner..

    • @rrr-uv8cx
      @rrr-uv8cx 3 года назад +6

      Winner x IC fighting.well be together until 444 years 💙💙💙💙

    • @BlueFandom__W_SJ
      @BlueFandom__W_SJ 3 года назад +3

      WINNER & Inseos fighting!!!!

    • @blinkteume2181
      @blinkteume2181 3 года назад +1

      I wouldn’t say the verge of disbanding, Taehyun decided to leave and the rest decided to stay, YG wouldn’t kicked them, they would continue promoting, but their popularity would decrease. It’s what happens to every group when a member leaves.
      And if you want to bring 2ne1, they were surrounded by scandals during that time, and minzy left. YG told Bom that it would be better to take some time, and 2ne1 wasn’t going to promote with just 2 members, so they disbanded for their members health. Even YG promoted Bom in her solo comeback, and Bom herself wanted to return to YG for her solo career, but then decided to join her company cause she previously worked with one of the producers.

  • @-correct-ok2398
    @-correct-ok2398 Год назад +7

    I've been stanning WINNER ever since i got into kpop 6 years ago. What's crazy is that many of my fellow kpop fans never heard of them.

    • @whatever4269
      @whatever4269 Год назад +1

      Ikr??
      People never mention them on edits about 3rd gen kpop idols. Somehow they know about IKon, or even Mino, but not Winner

  • @TinaLee-lc6kd
    @TinaLee-lc6kd 3 года назад +60

    Winner had always been classy they never had switched.

    • @leeceejj
      @leeceejj 3 года назад

      AND THAT IS A FACT 👌🏻

  • @rayne933
    @rayne933 3 года назад +269

    just a tiny correction: their cross tour in asia wasn't cancelled midway through, they were actually going to their last spot already - singapore - before coming back to korea to do an encore/finale in seoul, which is why it was a huge bummer but they made up for it with the valentine's day online concert nevertheless. WINNER BEST BOYS 💙

    • @eamz10
      @eamz10 3 года назад +6

      That's true! I attended cross tour in Manila and as usual, they're superb!

    • @merutan171
      @merutan171 3 года назад +8

      So sad they didnt made it to the last spot Singapore. Cross Tour in Singapore was cancelled only 1 week before d-day, just after the night in Ho Chi Minh city, Vietnam. I intended to attend it i cried a pond of blood due to this TT____TT

    • @rayne933
      @rayne933 3 года назад +1

      @@merutan171 anyway i'm really sorry you had to experience that. let's celebrate again when they come back! 💙

    • @eamz10
      @eamz10 3 года назад +1

      @@merutan171 let's just wait for their comeback :)).n

  • @ljaquino7721
    @ljaquino7721 3 года назад +331

    When you said that winner makes you feel something other groups cant i totally felt that. Been to their concert twice alredy one is this january 2020 only and I can say that its one best ever concerts I had✨👌😊.

    • @jiraniku6550
      @jiraniku6550 3 года назад +10

      Yes i watched in 2018 with my niece and she was hooked. In 2020 i brought my 2 nieces to their concert and i couldn't be happier to see them singing and jumping to winner's encore. It's hard to explain but it is really best to see them perform live. They just really hype you up and i have never felt so alive.

    • @jkristine2123
      @jkristine2123 3 года назад +6

      I totally agree with you! With the kpop concerts I've attended, I can really really say, no other kpop groups made me feel like Winner did! 💯💯💯

    • @anandayayi
      @anandayayi 3 года назад +3

      Agree.. I had never attended any concert before. I was so excited and nervous when I was attending their concert in 2018. Lucky me, it was the best concert ever. even the other ICs were so kind and I made a lot of friends.

    • @septembermuse5020
      @septembermuse5020 3 года назад +4

      Winner Cross Tour in Manila was a fab party-like concert. The best!

  • @wot4jinu981
    @wot4jinu981 3 года назад +65

    actually WINNER win with in just 5 days... they debut was August 17 they win in Mnet countdown at Aug. 21

  • @dwzxliytrteuiwm8665
    @dwzxliytrteuiwm8665 3 года назад +197

    Winner has the best of each aspect that kpop needs: Yoon's vocal, Jinu's visual, Mino's rap, Hoony's dance. They're like avengers. Yet, whenever I watch them, I feel like they're more than idols, I agreed that they're artist, and sometime they look like 4 richest men in korea who performs in their charity event 😂

    • @amarsonar1
      @amarsonar1 2 года назад +2

      the rich men performing for fun 🤣🤣🤣

  • @koolkidkean9486
    @koolkidkean9486 3 года назад +198

    MINO comback in October watch out folks

  • @lym1875
    @lym1875 3 года назад +69

    I'll always remember watching Kpop star and how Seung Hoon wasn't the strongest vocalist nor dancer, but just... he was incredibly resourceful, and such an amazing performer. Despite having weaknesses he still managed to reach the live stages. If anyone has the chance, please watch Kpop star or Win: who's next, it really shows how much they've been through. I also wouldn't really say they're idols, but artists. Winner is amazing.

  • @JelitaAndini
    @JelitaAndini 2 года назад +6

    I still listening their music until this morning. Their music brought peace & happy while I’m doing my work (resin artist).

  • @justanotherlostperson3902
    @justanotherlostperson3902 2 года назад +13

    Winner won in 4 days.
    This was actually clarified in real now... the boys themselves didnt know they were that good

  • @myohanshin1594
    @myohanshin1594 3 года назад +233

    WINNER's tag "Artists that never disappoint" perfectly suits them. I've never seen other boygroup or even girlgroup that fits these words.

    • @Lajririrkt
      @Lajririrkt 3 года назад

      Big Bang 2ne1 are way better than them.

    • @listi9573
      @listi9573 3 года назад +3

      @@Lajririrkt Why are you so pressed? I'm VIP my self but no need to degrading other groups. This video is about Winner let them & their fan (IC) have their own moment. If you wanna praise ur faves go to their videos.

  • @larpy
    @larpy 3 года назад +190

    Thank you ! Winner are my ultimate bias. I watched them from the beginning on WIN who is next. They are artists! I love their charisma, they write and compose their own songs, they try many different genres. Each member is so Unique and has individuality so when they come together it’s amazing.

    • @srijana3
      @srijana3 3 года назад +4

      same. Winner is my ultimate bias.

    • @rpiyaas
      @rpiyaas 3 года назад +2

      awe

    • @rrr-uv8cx
      @rrr-uv8cx 3 года назад +1

      💙💙💙💙

  • @winneristrueartists5357
    @winneristrueartists5357 3 года назад +5

    I want to cry 😭😭😭😭 I’m so new to winner, but I already missed them so much! Love love love them!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @ioslugs
    @ioslugs 3 года назад +5

    Stanning winner is honestly so amazing

  • @Adonis-md5gq
    @Adonis-md5gq 3 года назад +180

    Winner is still a group, they’re on a hiatus due to members starting their military service, Mino and Yoon are the only members promoting as solo artists rn and they will promote their own albums soon starting with Mino this October

  • @ruby3758
    @ruby3758 3 года назад +64

    This really really really really made me cry, I hope winner can be together and reunited with us fans in the future, and ima miss them 🥺 winner are real artists and I love them 😔🤚

  • @AyeshaAKamal
    @AyeshaAKamal 3 года назад +5

    I actually really started listening to Winner AFTER watching this video. I'm back to watch it again as an Inner Circle.

  • @jeansuarez497
    @jeansuarez497 3 года назад +5

    This needs to be shared and known.. so that the people calling them flops would shut up!

  • @shafiramaharani1599
    @shafiramaharani1599 3 года назад +129

    I found winner in this pandemic, where have i been all this time? I regret so much, but still i relieved to found them now

    • @joic.5619
      @joic.5619 3 года назад

      🖤🖤🖤

    • @shomai466
      @shomai466 3 года назад +5

      great. you're a covid era inseo ㅋㅋ

    • @shafiramaharani1599
      @shafiramaharani1599 3 года назад +7

      @@shomai466 better than never haha

    • @NMU8791
      @NMU8791 3 года назад +2

      Thankfully you found them ❤

    • @rrr-uv8cx
      @rrr-uv8cx 3 года назад +1

      💙💙💙💙

  • @yoonenthusiast
    @yoonenthusiast 3 года назад +177

    Never been into kpop before until stumbled into WINNER’s Ah Yeah and the decision to watch that MV is the best I made so far. Their artistry and talent really pulled me in. Thank you for the video!

    • @ema5417
      @ema5417 3 года назад +2

      i found mino because of bobby n get hooked to winner..i was never listen to other group’s bside song..but winner just ughh i cant explain it 💙🤘🏻

  • @lidette711
    @lidette711 3 года назад +6

    I'm more of a GG stan, but Nathan sold me on Winner. Think I might go check them out.

    • @SyifaTiara
      @SyifaTiara 3 года назад

      their bside are such a gems try listen to ‘my bad’ or ‘teaser’ 😸

  • @cachitttooo6699
    @cachitttooo6699 3 года назад +121

    Before I got into kpop I was into rap and I would listen to rappers who were really good like Kendrick Lamar, Denzel Curry, J. Cole like the rappers who made art and when I bumped into SOSO by Winner I was amazed and I looked back on their old works and they were something different. They really inspire me and taught me a lot. They have soooo much talent and im grateful that I found them🙏🏻❤ but sometimes I feel like I got into the fandom late and I miss them so so much :(❤

  • @ramyun_chizzue9701
    @ramyun_chizzue9701 3 года назад +45

    The Winner is Winner... you always win our hearts 😇

  • @SecretGarden2BW
    @SecretGarden2BW 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for this.😍 But, Winner still holds the record of fastest idol group to win no.1 on music show. :)

  • @janjanL
    @janjanL 3 года назад +4

    Winner brought me back to kpop..I had left it to rest in 2010 lol

  • @shessoogone1230
    @shessoogone1230 3 года назад +39

    Winner is really the odd child of YG and because of that, I love them.

  • @user-dy4ro9eu6g
    @user-dy4ro9eu6g 3 года назад +24

    I'm crying 😭💙 WINNER is this group that truly gives you so much inspiration in life, not just because of their songs but for them being themselves and I feel prouder for that. 😭💙 We miss you so much our KangKimSongLee 😭💙

  • @rinasyapitri8583
    @rinasyapitri8583 3 года назад +5

    Being different is one makes you special 😭😭 I love you KangNamSongLeeKim. All of you!!😘

  • @TheHappyNoona
    @TheHappyNoona 3 года назад +47

    They have no bad songs honestly.. and believe it or not, I listen to “Everyday” literally everyday.. until now..

  • @halohalophile
    @halohalophile 3 года назад +57

    I appreciate this video as Winner doesn't have a huge international fanbas but it's really awesome to see big kpop channels like you, loving them. They are one of a kind and each of the members are so talented and hilarious too! I hope more people give them a listen. I became an innercircle a little late and after years of k-pop hiatus, Winner was the only one who brought me back in.

  • @prettygirlsaresleepyheads
    @prettygirlsaresleepyheads 3 года назад +16

    Nathan, thank you for making this beautiful video about Winner. I got teary eye when I watching it. Losing Nam Tae Hyun as one of their song writer and producer maight seems like a big lost, but hey.. Thats became a moment for Seungyoon to show his hidden talent. Winner indeed is not a kpop grup, they are artists.

  • @larpy
    @larpy 2 года назад +6

    WINNER IS BACK and they all renewed their contracts with YG Ent! they will comeback soon this month they said

  • @debdyutichakraborty2475
    @debdyutichakraborty2475 3 года назад +9

    Really Really is like at a legendary status at this point in my book. If I could listen to only one song for the rest of my life it will be this song.❤️

    • @suchismitakar2154
      @suchismitakar2154 3 года назад +1

      Thank.you
      Fun fact..I made the Red FM play Really Really in Kolkata
      😁

    • @debdyutichakraborty2475
      @debdyutichakraborty2475 3 года назад

      @@suchismitakar2154 Good job bro. They should start playing more kpop songs here.

  • @cesarpatino552
    @cesarpatino552 3 года назад +25

    One of my fav groups of all time !

  • @nsdmc6471
    @nsdmc6471 3 года назад +26

    Thank you for everything. As you said. Winner is an artist... they moved my heart since the beginning.

  • @chevysnfirst
    @chevysnfirst 3 года назад +34

    WINNER is superior. I listen to a small playlist made of their songs each day before I start my work shift. They put a smile on my face.

  • @ronnnmmm
    @ronnnmmm 3 года назад +5

    some information that not on this video are :
    Seungyoon already have a hit single when contesting on SuperstarK with "Instinctively" remake ,the reason he chose to signed with YG is bcs YG is the only one who doesn't want to debut him right after the SuperstarK ended and said that he need prepare more for the music industry.

  • @justanotherlostperson3902
    @justanotherlostperson3902 2 года назад +6

    Imagine being different in a company known for being the most defiantly different! CRAZY

  • @MaiXin__1220
    @MaiXin__1220 3 года назад +4

    Winner ia group i'm rooting since their beginning, even before they're debut, 2013 may i know them because WIN: WHO IS NEXT?

  • @intothewoods1047
    @intothewoods1047 3 года назад +4

    No other kpop groups make you feel like how winner makes you feel.❤️

  • @jeeeeev
    @jeeeeev 3 года назад +5

    the only kpop group for me that has its own genre. I can't find any group that has the same vibe winner has.

  • @SandraPerez-cb2tg
    @SandraPerez-cb2tg 3 года назад +34

    Winner are true artists & real people. They show their true self, their good qualities and their insecurities.

  • @jseeunluvr
    @jseeunluvr 3 года назад +24

    winner is the most versatile group i ever seen. i cant just find anyone like them. anyways smh2 coming back this october!!!

  • @mayora7734
    @mayora7734 3 года назад +3

    At first, I did not know anything about Winner. All I know is the song - "Really Really" that I accidentally watched from one of the Korean variety shows and it wasn't played by Winner. It was played by one of UI's guitarists (I think). The moment I heard that song, I fell in-love with it. I kept on researching of who is the original singer. It took me quite a while to discover/know them (my bad 😭). But since then, I started following them on IG, Spotify and watched their milestone on You Tube and not a single day that I DO NOT play all of their music/songs. It is somewhat like a therapy to me. Like a lullaby if I need to sleep or if I need to start my day with a perky feeling or If I need relax. I love other Kpop like BigBang, BTS, iKon, ZICO, SUJU, and a lot more but WINNER Kpop is the only Kpop songs that I always listen to, like ALWAYS. REALLY! Literally EVERYDAY! Like an anthem to me. Isn't crazy? Am I crazy over them? 😁😉🤔😁

  • @l.m4678
    @l.m4678 2 года назад +5

    I think Winner is the group who have more hiatus than comebacks. Which group has hiatus of almost 2 years after successful debut.

  • @RRisBackBitcheZz
    @RRisBackBitcheZz 3 года назад +42

    what happened for Winner is they stayed true to themselves. Mino is coming, hopefully Yoon too. we gon have Winner even after their military is done. that what happened to Winner.

  • @alqt3798
    @alqt3798 3 года назад +29

    they still hold the record for the fastest win !

  • @RiaHayni1311
    @RiaHayni1311 3 года назад +7

    Your last statement is everything.. Thanks a lot for video. Winner is artist.. They different from other idols. I hope our leader seungyoon see your video. He will feel great to hear that kind of thing. Cause winner music is to break idol stereotypes.

  • @irdaniejefri2705
    @irdaniejefri2705 3 года назад +44

    WINNER still hold the title for fastest win after debut 😉

  • @thrynx
    @thrynx 3 года назад +5

    Imagine being the next group after BIGBANG and 2NE1, aka the KINGS and QUEENS of KPOP, only WINNER can relate.

  • @lovekiss
    @lovekiss 3 года назад +67

    WINNER are a group of artists, not idols is a fact. They've made so so many songs, still working on them, and are saving them for the prefect time to release them. that is why in each album you get so many style and genres to listen too. Fun fact! Their title tracks follows and tells a story about courtship, love, and losing that love ***MIND BLOWN*** like who does that?
    Yes to THE FIRST GROUP TO DO VLIVE CONCERT FOR FANS!!!! As proud as I am of them they keep making me prouder :)
    I've only stan 3 Kpop groups so far. A 1st generation: H.O.T who was slaying back then(stanned in 1998). BB who are Kings of 2nd generation and are still slaying today(stanned in 2012). And WINNER(stanned since WIN). Yes, I am picky. And yes, it is super hard for me to find a group to stan. WINNER just somehow was able to slowly squeeze into my heart both with their music and with their personalities.

  • @NANA-ei3wg
    @NANA-ei3wg 3 года назад +5

    Winner will always be WINNEEEEER. PERIOD!

  • @cescanicolelala
    @cescanicolelala 3 года назад +28

    “No other kpop idols makes you feel how WINNER makes you feel.” So true 😭 thank you for this beautiful video, I miss them so much and will always wait until they can stand on stage as four again. 💙

  • @eve6443
    @eve6443 3 года назад +4

    winner actually took FIVE days to have their first win so technically their record haven’t been broken yet until now

  • @suchismitakar2154
    @suchismitakar2154 3 года назад +26

    Winner still have that fastest rookie award

  • @OriginalCelina
    @OriginalCelina 3 года назад +87

    I saw Winner last year in San Francisco for their Everywhere World Tour. It was small, but it was amazing! I've gone to plenty of concerts before but they literally made me cried. I didn't even understand why I was crying, but it was totally worth it for my first concert cry, lol. I also attended that concert by myself and I honestly had so much fun lol. I would totally recommend anyone to go to their concert if you're ever contemplating in the future! Do it! You won't regret it :)

    • @KatKat-nv2gz
      @KatKat-nv2gz 3 года назад +9

      Saw them in Seattle for Everywhere Tour, it was one of the best experiences of my life! 💙💙💙💙

    • @halohalophile
      @halohalophile 3 года назад +6

      I was a casual fan when I attended their concert and thought I can leave not stanning them but I was totally wrong! They got me hooked and the concert was so much fun! I’m in my 30s and I thought there were going to be only younger people but man there was a diverse audience and Winner caters to that!

    • @OriginalCelina
      @OriginalCelina 3 года назад +2

      Jenny Vie That’s good that you enjoyed it. I felt the same. I honestly didn’t really like “Love Me Love Me” that much, but by the end of the concert; I got hooked on that song. I’m not sure which concert that you went to, but I felt like that atmosphere at the SF concert was great. I didn’t feel like I went alone. I bought the floor tickets, but the crowd was not pushing and everyone gave each other space, so my body wasn’t aching from not being able to move 😂 That’s something that I experienced a lot at other concerts, so I was surprised that everyone didn’t do that. Anyways, I would totally attend their concert next time too.

  • @margs7587
    @margs7587 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for featuring WINNER. 💙 I have been a fan since their Team A days until now. Very well researched I must say. I just remember reading before that Mino got into the company because someone he knows from YG told him that the company is gonna make another boygroup and that person told him to try. Guess I need to thank that insider. lol
    *Warning: Long comment ahead
    2014 was a good year. Debut was flawless and everything was great for both WINNER and fans. Whole album topped Melon from 1-10, early music show wins, end year award shows wins. We thought it'll be going smoothly however, that 1 year hiatus killed the momentum. Many fans cant wait and left. We had EXIT:E which was supposed to be a series but it underperformed and the whole project halted. Then NTH left. We knew he had a different vibe and musical direction as the other 4. But, we couldnt really have predicted him leaving. It was a devastating year. Theyre not doing well sales wise and now a member left. I remember crying that day after reading the news. I never imagined it couldve happened to a group I followed. We fans were worried sick about the group's future. The members were already pressured that time carrying the company's name and being the next bg to BIGBANG, they really hoped to be an asset to the company. I was really worried they would disband. 2016 was the worst year as an IC. But, Queen Really Really saved us. WTO4 saved the group. I can really say I love them even better now. Music wise, group chemistry wise, WINNER is perfect as four. FATE NUMBER FOR couldve not come at a better time. If it failed, I couldnt imagine what might have been. WINNER found their music color and I am so thankful. The rest of the years was still up and down but the continuous release of good music was a blessing. Now, we just have to wait. Just a few years and the group will be united again as four. 💙

  • @demaslore8615
    @demaslore8615 3 года назад +8

    Their b-sides always slap

  • @xipzip2493
    @xipzip2493 3 года назад +4

    I love how you are spreading hope by just saying it will be a while before we see Winner again and not saying disbanding !Am doing so so😭😭😭💓

  • @blauche
    @blauche 3 года назад +3

    i cried after watching this. i am so proud that i am stanning winner.

  • @andrewchang175
    @andrewchang175 3 года назад +4

    Been rooting for them since Team-A days.

  • @143szns
    @143szns 3 года назад +8

    SoSo is one of the best songs I've ever heard 😔