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He never “predicted” that. Like almost all RUclips creators he goes with a level of clickbait titles to get viewership. Not my preference, but also not his fault viewers tend to choose clickbait to begin with.
@@kenshirogenjuro873 He actually provided reasons to support his own theory on why he thought that Arrowlake would destroy AMD. He pointed out that the limitations of AMD's infinity fabric would prevent it from beating Arrowlake. I'm not hating on the guy for trying to predict what would happen. He tried his best. There is nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes, as long as you humbly admit to being wrong.
@@matthewelisha8797 he also does videos where he argues the complete opposite. He does this frequently. Then at the end it’s always “but maybe that’s just what I think, what do you think?” It’s not a bad formula to encourage discussion that gets his channel more engagement.
I'm fine with my $150 i5-13600K at 5.6GHz ($90 for my used Z690 and 64GB DDR4). GB6 Single = 3073 vs 9800X3D's 3305. GB6 Multi = 14619 vs 9800X3D's 18221, and I only play games 20% of the time on my computer. Used RTX 3080 for $260. Love these new CPU's and GPU's everyone upgrades to.
As a percentage of the buying public very few will be overclocking their CPUs.....and personally I think that unless you are ok with upgrading every two three years then I wouldn't risk it. I think the stock performance should be what is focused upon with overclocking as an aside.
But would you Upgrade on a 650 'Board, or would you Upgrade the 'Board as well to the 800 Series.... I have the ASRock PG Riptide, and I'm Happy with it on the 7800X3D, and if that Board is good enough for a 9800X3D, I'm all over it... 🤪
Keep b650 unless you want something specific from the new boards. I might have to ugprade at some point because i got a PCIE 4.0 b650, but we'll see how much that affects performance for PCIE 5.0 GPU's later.
I've been waiting, I hope they have enough stock of the 9800X3D that the scalpers can't buy them all and are stuck with the stock they bought. I also have the AsRock B650M PG Riptide, but I'm looking at that X870E Pro Art Motherboard real hard.
From what we've seen from Red gaming video today the 9800 ex 3D will be 8% faster at 1080p and 0% faster at 2K and 4k I wouldn't fuss over returning the CPU just yet we still don't know the final performance with video benchmarks
Cinebench and Geekbench, dont translate into gaming..and no one is buying an 8 core X3D chip for anything other than gaming. People will be lucky to see 10% more perf in games..I dont know if I could be bothered replacing my 7800X3D for that, and I've got a full custom loop too, so its not like I couldnt OC one either.
All the processor has to beat is is last year model. There's a reason the cpus are capped the way they are, and it has to do with your monitors' refresh rate. If they just went hard as they could, you would never buy another product because your 3080 maxed out your 1440p monitor 144hz refresh rate. Well, that would defeat the purpose of their market scam, wouldn't it?
I have to ask, why, though? Unless you are running a 360Hz monitor at 1080P why do you need your CPU to be that fast? I'd rather crank up the res to 4K and play at 60Hz while having extra cores sitting on the side lines ready to take over any random tasks that pop up in the background. I am looking for an upgrade from my 3970X threadripper as it is just now starting to show it's age, and I am leaning more towards the 9950X as the 7970X plus platform upgrade is way to expensive anymore.
It'll improve frame times and limit stutters in most games. Some more than others, you never know when you'll be CPU limited. I couldn't properly emulate God of War until I bought my new CPU despite my old one "technically" being fast enough.
I am glad they are doing it though. Tbh, I feel as if CPU performance hasn't kept up too well with GPU improvements. This is just setting a new precedence for performance expectations which will bolster more competition. This will always be good news for the consumer.
Only if “leakers” keep promoting this 20-50% gainz nonsense. The most AMD has leaked suggests 8% gaming uplift over the 7800X3D. People should quit blaming AMD for “leakers” making boisterous claims.
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Your predictions of Intel’s Arrowlake processors annihilating AMD turned out to be wrong.
if he said that he is dumb.amd is light years of intel, intel fumbled the bag years ago
He never “predicted” that. Like almost all RUclips creators he goes with a level of clickbait titles to get viewership. Not my preference, but also not his fault viewers tend to choose clickbait to begin with.
@@kenshirogenjuro873 He actually provided reasons to support his own theory on why he thought that Arrowlake would destroy AMD. He pointed out that the limitations of AMD's infinity fabric would prevent it from beating Arrowlake. I'm not hating on the guy for trying to predict what would happen. He tried his best. There is nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes, as long as you humbly admit to being wrong.
@@matthewelisha8797 he also does videos where he argues the complete opposite. He does this frequently. Then at the end it’s always “but maybe that’s just what I think, what do you think?” It’s not a bad formula to encourage discussion that gets his channel more engagement.
It was the single core synthetic benchmarks that showed big performance.
O views in 0 seconds 😂bro fell off
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@@BENNIT41 lmao
Stop
It's not funny
youtube comments be like
I'm fine with my $150 i5-13600K at 5.6GHz ($90 for my used Z690 and 64GB DDR4). GB6 Single = 3073 vs 9800X3D's 3305. GB6 Multi = 14619 vs 9800X3D's 18221, and I only play games 20% of the time on my computer. Used RTX 3080 for $260. Love these new CPU's and GPU's everyone upgrades to.
As a percentage of the buying public very few will be overclocking their CPUs.....and personally I think that unless you are ok with upgrading every two three years then I wouldn't risk it. I think the stock performance should be what is focused upon with overclocking as an aside.
Need info on 9950x3d. Price, release, stats,etc.... Any news would be helpful. Trying to build pc with this card when it comes out.
@@christiancampbell7828 supposedly it’s supposed to be around 449-499$ and it releases November 7th
But would you Upgrade on a 650 'Board, or would you Upgrade the 'Board as well to the 800 Series.... I have the ASRock PG Riptide, and I'm Happy with it on the 7800X3D, and if that Board is good enough for a 9800X3D, I'm all over it... 🤪
Keep it 💯just be sure to update the BIOS first.
Keep b650 unless you want something specific from the new boards. I might have to ugprade at some point because i got a PCIE 4.0 b650, but we'll see how much that affects performance for PCIE 5.0 GPU's later.
I've been waiting, I hope they have enough stock of the 9800X3D that the scalpers can't buy them all and are stuck with the stock they bought. I also have the AsRock B650M PG Riptide, but I'm looking at that X870E Pro Art Motherboard real hard.
I still have a week to return my new sealed 7800x3d, i'm not sure if i should return it....
You can always sell the 7800x3d. Marginal loss. If the 9800x3d won't be a large performance boost it won't be worth the difference anyway.
What did you buy it at? My expectation is the 9800X3D will be lucky if it hits even 10% better performance
From what we've seen from Red gaming video today the 9800 ex 3D will be 8% faster at 1080p and 0% faster at 2K and 4k I wouldn't fuss over returning the CPU just yet we still don't know the final performance with video benchmarks
I did the same thing. I have until Nov 1st to return it so I'm waiting until I can hear the cost and actual testing of the 9800x3d.
Cinebench and Geekbench, dont translate into gaming..and no one is buying an 8 core X3D chip for anything other than gaming.
People will be lucky to see 10% more perf in games..I dont know if I could be bothered replacing my 7800X3D for that, and I've got a full custom loop too, so its not like I couldnt OC one either.
loser
All the processor has to beat is is last year model. There's a reason the cpus are capped the way they are, and it has to do with your monitors' refresh rate. If they just went hard as they could, you would never buy another product because your 3080 maxed out your 1440p monitor 144hz refresh rate. Well, that would defeat the purpose of their market scam, wouldn't it?
idk just hope thermal grizzly amd am5 high performance heatspreader would work with the 9800x3d or 9900x3d delidded with kryosheet
Aaaaaaand sold out.
How is your neck bro?😂
285k over here struggling to beat a 12th gen I5 as well 💀.
I thought is closer to the 14900k
285k makes no sense for its price for games but this is an outright lie.
Here’s to hoping AMD beats Intel. Intel was a failure once again today.
Meh, I will believe it when I see it
Release date?
Nov 7
I have to ask, why, though?
Unless you are running a 360Hz monitor at 1080P why do you need your CPU to be that fast?
I'd rather crank up the res to 4K and play at 60Hz while having extra cores sitting on the side lines ready to take over any random tasks that pop up in the background.
I am looking for an upgrade from my 3970X threadripper as it is just now starting to show it's age, and I am leaning more towards the 9950X as the 7970X plus platform upgrade is way to expensive anymore.
It'll improve frame times and limit stutters in most games. Some more than others, you never know when you'll be CPU limited.
I couldn't properly emulate God of War until I bought my new CPU despite my old one "technically" being fast enough.
@@J0n3zH I thought God of War was a native PC title?
It’s more than just frames. Higher lows, smoother & snappier experience.
I am glad they are doing it though. Tbh, I feel as if CPU performance hasn't kept up too well with GPU improvements. This is just setting a new precedence for performance expectations which will bolster more competition. This will always be good news for the consumer.
hm none of this is gaming so not interested. great video.
@@evilvash0 Well he said it would convert to maybe a 15% uplift in games.
Wow I’m early
Lame
Zen 5%
9800X3D will be a fiasco
Only if “leakers” keep promoting this 20-50% gainz nonsense. The most AMD has leaked suggests 8% gaming uplift over the 7800X3D. People should quit blaming AMD for “leakers” making boisterous claims.
why?
Why??