Who REALLY Wrote the Book of Matthew? | Talk Heathen: Throwback
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Gospel authorship, what do we know? #bible #christian #debate
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We know that Captain America punched Hitler because Hitler existed
Well, just look at the cover of the absolutely 100% accurate documentation that still exists -- there's no denying it.
America also exists, and so does the rank of captain, so it must be true.
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Captain America is from bklyn, I lived in bklyn, therefore Steve Rodgers is a supersoldier
The Arabic alphabet exists, therefore God. (JK-you know, some dimwits would actually use this as an argument.)
Andrew talks but does not listen or understand what anyone says.
Probably one of the best examples of indoctrination in the history of the show. In all of this guy's calls, he seems genuinely incapable of considering that he is wrong. It's like the information cannot enter his brain.
It's like a drain thats clogged with garbage, nothing else can get in.
"I have to believe Matthew wrote it, I'm a Christian." Holy shit, dude. This is why it needs to just stop.
Yep there are no names on any early gospels , and they wouldn’t be Western European names
@@kowohNot to mention that the disciples were mostly uneducated teens or very young men who spoke Aramaic, yet the gospels were written in educated Greek. None of it adds up
Round and round in circles. The blind leading the blind. What a god!!!!!!!! can these believers ever believe in anything but their own bullshit.
“Jesus said it was all a joke, no worries no hell” I am pretty sure I read that online somewhere….😅
Did the Romans prank Jesus until he died on the cross? 😅
Well now it is online!
@@JerryMetal Na, the J man was in on it, they were pranking the Jews.
I told my brother that the gospel authors are anonymous and he lost it. Had never heard such a thing and had no idea that Matthew and Luke are verbatim copies of 70-90% of Mark. He said he would do the Ehrman side by side comparison of the synoptic gospel stories, but has since retracted that statement and said he has talked to his pastor and he couldn’t remember what his pastor had said, but that everything was ok and not to worry about it 😂 so much for red-pilling that m’fer
Keep on tryin'. Ya got him to at least question it, that's something.
Ask him to call the show, we'd love to talk to him
Easy question to ascertain how someone approaches the gospels. Who is the tax collector? (not the one in a tree). If you read individually its Matt: Matt, Mark: Levi Son of Alphaeus, Luke: Levi, and John doesn't have the story.
There are four accounts of the life of Jesus, therefore they must be true? Actually, there are several that never made the final cut, but that's not the issue.
There are five accounts of the myth of Jason and the Argonauts (Apollonius, Pseudo-Apollodorus, Valerius, Hyginus & the Orphic Argonautica). Does that make the quest for the Golden Fleece true?
These conversations are so valuable. Keep it up!
It’s bewildering how people believe just because they ‘should’ believe.
It's even worse. They talk about science and new discoveries. But it can't be true because: it's not in the bible.
It's just simple fear to go to hell if they say something else. But I think there's a difference between what they say and what they think. God only knows...
As children, their patents verbally abusef them and made terroristic threats if they didn't join their parents violent, immoral cult. It should be illegal to violently theaten others. Oh wait, it is! Except violent cults get a pass and do not have to obey the laws the rest of us have to follow.
There is no difference between this and believing trans women are women because you "should" believe. Either both the religion claim and the gender identity claim are true or they are both false.
Magi = Magician
3 magicians used astrology to find baby Jesus
This dude embarasses himself Everytime he calls
He is so dispassionate about his arguments (over multiple calls), it's hard for me to believe he is doing anything other than blindly virtue signalling a list of talking points he doesn't even believe in a pathetic attempt to appease his fellow "faithful".
The real mystery is that why hasn't the all wise god turned up to put the record straight after years of conflict, confusion and debate? he did it 2000+yrs ago but for some reason can't do it now.
Here's a thought: HE DOESN'T EXIST, MAYBE?
Why would god appear in human form that looks the same as everyone else if he has a message, god already knows it wont work to convince everyone and knew he would be sacrificed. For something that knows everything it doesn't seem too smart, but he is, so it must be a trick or game that it already knew how it ends.
You've stumbled upon the main issue with Christianity - it doesn't make any f'ing sense.
I just never understood how some believers claim to be intellectuals who believe in science and facts and truth, but when it comes to their religion, all that goes out the window
“True Believers view not the movie Infinity War as a proper revelation of the story of Thanos, for it was merely a heathen rewrite of the true Infinity Gauntlet testament by Lord Starlin. Let us now bow our heads and say the prayer, Excelsior.”
Excelsior!
Thoughts and snaps.
He can’t admit the gospels are anonymous because it’s against the rules ( in his mind )
The names on the gospel’s just appear ( poof ) In much later copies but do not appear on early copies.
He’s been exposed to this information he quotes Bart Ehrman ( in some of his calls ) who’s seen the copies I just mentioned. Theistic biblical scholars just say those names are attributed to tradition. And when pressed fully admit we don’t know who wrote them.
So this detective case for the Bible he’s doing is impossible and no atheist would care. So he might as well talk to himself, at home with a script for both sides 🤷♂️
24:37 'There is nothing supernatural about a ship sinking" 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
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Jack Kirby is king sir.
Bravo👏👏👏👏
This guy isn’t even at the start of the process of unpicking his thoughts!
Sometimes, "halfway in-between"is accurate
NIB is the Debbil. KJV is the LOWERED.
This call is weird. I've never been to Twinsburg, but it's in a county that (barely) borders mine. But it's still weird seeing a call from fairly near where I live.
And this caller's accent isn't one I commonly hear in Northeast Ohio.
He diddent go to school, he was home Schooled,.....
Matthew says Matthew wasn't written by Matthew.
i love how they say “Matthew wrote it”. f#%*ing WHO?? it’s funny that they don’t at least say, “a guy named Matthew…” etc. they all conveniently skip over the fact that they’d have no clue about any of this bible crap unless they were indoctrinated to believe it.
Matthew is in the story, its not like he said "and jesus spoke to me".
Really relying on the faces of people you've ousted lately.
Someone doesn't understand what Ousted means.
Jamie is still a host.
How can’t a So-called Supreme Author of his OWN BOOK come forward and SAY, ‘Ah please stop debating, my words are so and so’! Or does He like to watch (holding popcorn) DEBATING PROGRAMS about his book from the day such programs started?😅
These people have a very low standard of evidence for believing ridiculous crazy shit.
Hey! God said it, I believe it so that settles it period... Sound familiar?
The existence of the MCU does not negate comic continuity . They’re different universes within a multiverse Matt . How are you like 60 and not know this 😂
34:31 moment like this is when one should realize they don't have a strong argument, need to reassess their position and their biases.
No, Mohammad flew to heaven on Barack.. which was supposedly some kind of donkey-like thing.
And split the Moon in half to make a point 😅
Obama? His foreign policy sure had me call him a donkey often
Ya both Christianity and Islam did the relic thing many many years later it’s considered tabloid theist stuff even by religious scholars
@@kowoh relic thing?
@@JerryMetalya early catholic church’s had a lot of fake relic’s finger of saint X that sort of thing.
There is controversy of whether or not the remains in Muhammad’s tomb is actually him. Saudi government won’t allow any investigation since it’s a sacred site.
Western religions obsession with relic’s has a long history.
Like Constantine claiming one of those nails from Jesus’s crucifiction was mounted on a lance
It’s all folklore not true
You have the evidence and have deliberately misinterpreted it and mislabeled it.
1) "Nothing" exploded and became everything. We know this because everything seems to be moving away from a central point.
*Yet, a created functional universe must expand, or it will implode.*
2) Chemicals under certain conditions created the first simple cell, all on their own.
*We now know that a "simple cell" is more complex than a large functioning city. There is no such thing as a simple cell.*
3) DNA is a product of time, natural forces, mutations and natural selection.
*DNA is billions of digitally coded instructions on how to build, maintain, repair and reproduce an organism. There are also billions of digitally coded instructions on how to build, maintain, repair and reproduce the DNA itself. Amazingly, this code is written both forward and backward in the same strand with different instructions for different purposes in each direction. Each and every cell in the human body has about a six foot strand of DNA. If strung together, one human's DNA would go to the edge of our known solar system and back.*
God said that the knowledge each generation has possessed has been enough evidence to prove his existence. *Men are without an excuse.*
Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, *so that men are without excuse.* For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. *Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools*
The fact that you cannot, or will not, accept that any of the stuff you droned on about couldn't happen without an invisible sky daddy, for which there is not the slightest demonstrable shred of evidence, does not make it one millimeter closer to being in fact, true.
PROVE, not just idiotically ASSERT that there is a demonstrable link, or go away.
Thank you.
1 - Nobody says “Nothing” - all the matter & energy in the universe was condensed in a single dense point, which suddenly expanded.
We cannot observe anything before the Planck Time, so we have no idea what was “before” the expansion or what caused it.
2 - The Miller-Urey experiments & multiple more recent studies show that Abiogenesis is at least a Possible mechanism for Life to arise from non-living material.
Also, a Single Cell is “simple” when compared to all multicellular life.
3 - There’s absolutely NOTHING “digital” about DNA.
It’s a Polymer molecule made up of 4 nucleotides.
The only reason we now say it is ANALAGOUS to a “code” is because Humans figured out what those 4 different bases are & labelled them A, T, G & C.
We then later realised that those 4 bases did different things depending on the order they were arranged within the molecule.
You seem to be missing the main issue though.
You may not believe those things can happen Naturally, but if you want to say “God did it” - you would need to;
1 - Demonstrate that a God actually exists.
2 - Demonstrate that it actually has the ability to do any of those things.
@Dark-Sentences
The Big Bang doesn’t say “nothing” exploded into something. Right out of the gate, you’re wrong.
Theists claim that something came from nothing. That God created a universe out of nothing.
So quit talking about God if you want to pretend he doesn't exist. What a bunch of phonies.
‘pretend’ 😂
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Romans 1:21-22
*Yes, they knew God,* but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. *Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.*
@@Dark-Sentences I am God. You worship me.
I'd like to invite you to call the show because your comment doesn't apply to us. I'm not sure who you're talking to but we aren't pretending anything. I'd be very happy to discuss this and break it down with you on the show
@@sceptictakeout6809
You have the evidence and have deliberately misinterpreted it and mislabeled it.
1) "Nothing" exploded and became everything. We know this because everything seems to be moving away from a central point.
*Yet, a created functional universe must expand, or it will implode.*
2) Chemicals under certain conditions created the first simple cell, all on their own.
*We now know that a "simple cell" is more complex than a large functioning city. There is no such thing as a simple cell.*
3) DNA is a product of time, natural forces, mutations and natural selection.
*DNA is billions of digitally coded instructions on how to build, maintain, repair and reproduce an organism. There are also billions of digitally coded instructions on how to build, maintain, repair and reproduce the DNA itself. Amazingly, this code is written both forward and backward in the same strand with different instructions for different purposes in each direction. Each and every cell in the human body has about a six foot strand of DNA. If strung together, one human's DNA would go to the edge of our known solar system and back.*
God said that the knowledge each generation has possessed has been enough evidence to prove his existence. *Men are without an excuse.*
Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, *so that men are without excuse.* For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. *Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools*
Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Matthew 4:17 KJV From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Nothing to repent for, nobody to repent to.
Here comes this cultist with his copy and paste BS. 😂
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"And they shall stand in despair before the white cliffs of the world, and shall chant from their empty tomes in vain, for their words are nothing! And Erú shall prevail against His enemies, and they shall be cast into the Void, for their enchantments are naught and their gods are helpless before Him." (The Silmarillion, 17:82)
Repent! All because some anonymous ancient literature written by goat herders and fisherman said you were supposed to?
I wonder if Christians have a damn clue how moronically stupid the stories in the Bible are? Never mind God raping Mary and the virgin birth. Parthenogenesis is not unheard of. Although never demonstrated to happen with mammals, let alone humans. But seriously, people. A talking snake? A talking donkeys? A talking burning bush? A 500 year old drunkard building a boat in the middle of the desert? A man surviving 3 days in the belly of a whale or fish? Moses parting the Red Sea? Aaron's walking stick turning into a snake? Horns knocking down stone walls. Samson has the strength of ten men and then has that robbed from him because of a haircut? Lot's wife instantly being turned into salt? All the dead in Jerusalem climbing out of their graves and walking the streets? These are bat crap crazy stories with not a shred of evidence proving any of it.