Moses, like many repeat callers, seems unaware that his definition of evidence differs from others. When hosts cut him off to keep the conversation focused and avoid proselytizing, he may feel silenced. However, maintaining a clear and relevant dialogue is crucial for a productive discussion. I'm sure that he will call back without the changing a single thing with his argument. They rarely ever do.
@@briley2177 But there's no way to tell if that guy's hints aren't designed to throw us off! Because how could it be that we find god through a mango seed? We ALL know that it's durian! Christianity is all stinky on the outside to throw us off, but in reality, it actually tastes good.
Also, ever notice how much Christians talk about how their God is love and then scream about how you'll suffer his wrath if you don't accept him? Like, how do you rectify one with the other? Sounds super abusive.
This is an excellent example of why I HATE talking about this topic with theists. They either do not know what “evidence” is or they are just being MANIPULATIVE!
"Can I speak?" You don't come here to preach. Every time you ask proof to these religious people, they just want to preach. Go preach to your church!!!
Or barring that. There are these public squares that were set up for such purposes. To tell others your views are om various issues, whether political or religious. And in the US, you are constitutional protected to spew whatever strikes your fancy. Just realizes, that everyone else is also allowed to throw their two cents in to debunk you, or ignore you and walk away
The Florida boy came here to preach Fairy tales that he wanted to teach To people like Denny Who was one of many that FloBoi drove into the atheists' breach!
If a Christian creationist constantly get confused about what evolution and abiogenesis is, are they even trying to make a case? It seems like it's a way to turn off Christians who are bothered by how scientifically inaccurate the bible is.
As a Black American Male, I cringe when another Black American Male starts repeating church talk that has been endocturinated through Christian teachings without using reasoning and skepticism to come to a conclusion. When they are trying to argue their viewpoint, it sounds naive and unintelligent. And when they don't understand that their reasoning is flawed, they ignore it and keep talking, hoping it will eventually make sense. We'll, that just my observation. 😊
As a white American I’m scared to make assumptions like that, but I do know that something that often makes me want to cry is the concept of a black Christian, knowing the history of how and why Christianity took root amongst them.
You nailed it, that's exactly what they do. It's interesting listening to people from more religious countries than mine, you hear them recite stuff and can tell they're just repeating what they hear without actually listening and realising it makes no sense even when someone explains why. They are waiting for their chance to talk instead of listening to what is being explained to them.
@@nealjroberts4050 I still get a tray of them from my uncle (mango farmer in Bowen) every year and he only sends the ones that are Bullocks heart sized 😁 Have you tried a frozen one?😋
Yeah.. his mango analogy collapses at the outset because planting a mango 'seed' will get you a mango tree that is extremely unlikely to produce any fruit.
@@holgerlubotzki3469 At best you get a tree that gives you turpentine mangos and they are only good for making chutney. Even the bloody flying foxes don't like them.
It's mind boggling how apologists will try to insist that atheists are trying to avoid accountability. The argument makes absolutely no sense, but it let's them feel smug and superior, and that's more important to them than logic.
I've determined that Damonkey is a POE playing the REALLY long game. When I challenged him to give just one example of something that's objectively immoral, because he was claiming that he has objective morality, his response was: "what's your proof to prove I can't name a single objective moral right or wrong." That's not a normal person. That's someone acting like the most irrational theist ever. It's as weird as if someone said, "I bet you can't beat me in a race to the corner." And instead of saying, "you're on," you say, "what proof do you have to prove that I can't beat you in a race to the corner."
LOL I must admit specifically 'mango' analogy is a first. What if a child doesn't like mangos? Or allergic to them? This is all very confusing. Can he do the Scientologist banana? The Hebrew apple? Islam cactus?
I couldn't agree more, and nobody's more diluted than the atheistic humanist rainbow community for their faith-based beliefs.. it's one thing when they do it to themselves it's a whole other ball game when they mutilate their children. And they need to keep their faith based beliefs out of the public schools. They have to stop compelling people in speech to acknowledge their atheistic faith-based beliefs which in America is a violation of our constitutional right to free speech and practice religion
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Who? Not some magic invisible made up man. Us. Who else? There is no one else to do it. I have a question. Did the caller in this call do a good job?
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPEDGo away, troll, nobody gives a F***🖕about your boogie man in the sky No matter if he's real or not.. Because your imaginary friend is not worth Any type of praise or worship . F*** your God And the religion he came with!!!!!
I think a simple question that cuts to the chase is to ask anyone who uses the word God. What exactly are you referring to when you use the word God? You'll find that the vast majority of people can't answer that question, they don't even know what they mean when they use the word. Eventually some will end up saying something like "God is a spirit" Then you ask, do we have any way at all to confirm that spirits exist? At this point they usually throw a tantrum and tell you to read the bible or tell you you're going to hell, ya know the usual hilarious threats.
Wow! Someone go a mango tree and wants to share his mangoes, but nobody believes him??!! So, he couldn't produce a mango to share? If he'd share a delicious mango with me I could say "Yeah, that is a delicious mango!" Now, if he's just TELLING people he has mangoes he wants to share, but only by talking about them, then that is just mean!
I felt bad for Moses he means well , he’s not bonkers he just believes in some stuff he can’t easily communicate. But I can’t receive it. It’s a grandiose claim with no evidence. And I think his feelings were hurt
Once I I was given this metaphor but with cookies: you can only know exactly what the cookie tastes like if you actually put it in your mouth. I proceeded to tell them that one, the existence of a taste depends upon the perception of the taster, so a taste itself is not something that "exists", so that's different from the god claims. Also, since I can hold the cookie, smell the cookie and know for a fact that a cookie exists before I put it in my mouth makes this metaphor lacking; a correct version would be if you told me that I could taste an invisible cookie, that doesn't have smell and is untouchable and I will only taste it if I really believe that it tastes like something, and not only that, but other people have claimed to taste it and felt completely different tastes. So they said: well, like when you see a fruit you know it clearly comes from a tree, so our love and whatever come from God, this tree, to which I said: yeah, just like when you see thunder that's a clear fruit that thor exists, duh!
I think the seed analogy is used more often (although its first for mangos!). Taste buds are real actually. And we can prove what tastes good or bad for humans. Clearly other lifeform species have different tastes to humans too, even eating things that would kill us, by their poison alone.
@@kimsland999 yeah, but I never said that taste buds don't exist, though. I said the existence of taste as it is a perception, is dependant on the existence OF the taster, or the taste buds if you will.
When Christians say "God is in your heart," what do they mean by "heart"? My heart is an organ 🫀 that pumps blood through my body but if you're talking metaphorically, then that still doesn't make sense because at that point, a "heart" that is metaphorical could just be emotion.
I think it is something spoken of in the buybull not because it was a metaphor, but because the writers actually thought that the heart was responsible for our emotions, our wisdom, intellect, etc. They pretty much thought that the heart was the brain in ancient Egypt, and that notion probably carried over to the buybull writers.
@@Tuna_Man2323 Yes this is historically understood, that since the heart would beat faster in say love or excitement, and stop or miss a beat in shock or fear > our ignorant ancestors thought that emotions must come from the heart. There are many stories about if you cut out the heart then you die and stop loving. The brain was really thought of things like seeing, hearing etc The brain wasn't given much importance at all. When we finally found out the heart does not hold emotions whatsoever the church was outraged. MOST RELEVANT > _Ancient Greek and Roman philosophers similarly considered the heart of utmost importance. Aristotle, in fourth century B.C. Greece, posited that the heart was the source of life and the center of the nervous system_ As far back as ancient Egypt. _The heart was regarded in Ancient Egypt as the organic motor of the body and also the seat of intelligence, an important religious and spiritual symbol. It was considered as one of the eight parts of human body. Counter to other organs it had to be kept carefully intact in the mummy to ensure its eternal life_ There is a known history of when discoveries that the brain is the part that controls emotions (and thought and self etc). In the 16th century, Belgian anatomist Andreas Vesalius mapped the nervous system to the brain. In 1791 Italian Luigi Galvani showed that electricity applied to nerves could make muscles contract. In the early 1900s, anatomists finally used microscopes to study the brain. Neuroanatomists Santiago RamÓn y Cajal and Camillo Golgi were awarded the 1906 Nobel Prize for identifying that nerve cells (neurons) are the building blocks of the brain, and showing there are many different types. In 1932 Sir Charles Sherrington and Edgar Adrian won the Nobel Prize for proposing the concept of synapses (junctions between neurons). From the 1960s there was an explosion of neuroscience research. CHRISTIANITY and basically all religions have not caught up! I often say: Christians still believe we are in the Dark Ages 500 CE to 1500 CE Of witches, Demons, enchantments (chanting) and ridiculous prayers. They are not commonly informed that the heart DOES NOT produce emotions!
I feel like it goes a long way in showing which side actually cares about the truth that SO many people that clearly see Jesus as god can't just say it. They have to do these strange word games where they act like they aren't just saying "Yes I believe Jesus is god" by the end of it.
This is wonderful news that the caller said to wait a long time for the tree to grow. So clearly no child should believe. They should wait until much much older. To tell you the truth I'm in agreeance, The child should just leave the seed to grow, whilst never worrying about it for a long long time. Maybe say age 25 they could check if the seed grew? But certainly NOT before it grows. As the caller said (in so many words) DON'T believe until it grows. HOORAY. Literally the caller should go up to children and say: DON'T BELIEVE! Not yet ok. Wait until much much later, but presently: Do ..... NOT .... BELIEVE! Thank you caller, I'll inform my kids. Actually don't even wait, just check for the evidence when they are much much older. Agreed.
@@HauntedJack well I love where Iivr in Miami. And love my drives to Tampa and Sabastian to visit family. Just sometimes we come across some real jerks
...And the next religion is offering an invisible Papaya Seed, the next one an invisible Coconut seed, invisible Banana seed (each an invisible tropical fruit).
Moses should take heart and not be let down by everyone criticizing his magic mango seeds. Remember what they told Jack about his magic beans that he sold his cow for? Look who's laughing now! It's us. We are the ones laughing. 😂
@-D-I-V-A- If you want to post on this channel be prepared to be heavily moderated and your comments removed if they are contrary or questioning to the atheist modus operandi.
@-D-I-V-A-It's getting filtered even before it gets to my channel. If there are comments that are offensive, such as all the horrible disgusting things that Jim said, they can held for me to review. But I see nothing. It probably has something to do with the "not see" content, so just try to use euphemisms.
Barry 3.16 - For God so loved his apples that he tormented humanity because an easily led woman was tricked by a talking snake and ate an apple of God.
you will see, just wait. But why? isnt god supposed to be timeless? like why does WE need patience? I have 40+ years now and be hearing mostly all my life "jesus is coming, jesus is coming" yeah, sure, seem like he doesnt care
Do these host not understand at all that they both cannot talk at the same time about different things and ask different questions and then be shocked when the caller doesn’t understand what they said
That's hilarious because the Hindus believe that when you send prayers to the g0d of Abraham or worship Allah that you are actually worshipping Vishnu by proxy. They thank you for your worship of Vishnu and are happy to let you continue in that fashion without further intervention. Which is why no Hindu has ever knocked on your door or accosted you on the street in order to try and convert you. Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 9, Verse 23: "Even those who are devotees of other gods, and who worship them with faith, actually worship me alone, O son of Kunti, but in an improper way."
It would've been far more productive to just let him present what he wants to present, and explain why that's a bad reason for why he believes what he does. Of course you can also point out that it's not "evidence" while doing so, and of course you can cut him off and insist that he gets to the point. But if you refuse to let him present his case, because it doesn't meet your specific definition of evidence, it just sounds like you're nitpicking by arguing semantics, which comes across as poorly as some of the most bad-faith theist arguments.
Aaron Miriam Pharaoh and all the Levites would be sadly disappointed with Moses's hiccups! That's why Pastafarism looks so good 2 me now! Moses Mangoes?????? Hell No!!🤣😆 A big plate of delicious PASSTA an excellent complementary sauce the finest Lunar cheese ((fresh and mined from the moon) and a six pack and I'm OK! 😎
Moses. Guy tells you wild story. Worlds Best Mango. In 5 years. Maybe. If you trust/believe me. If you do it right. Now the seed...is indetectable. How know? Trust me bro. Be patient. Nah, MORE patient. Wait. Waaaait... Youll know whrn it happens. Unless youre doing it wrong. U doin it wrong?
1 Corinthians 15:3-8 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life ROMANS 10:13 For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
@@t800fantasm2 God Bless You!! 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life ROMANS 10:13 For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
@@AXKfUN9mNONE of his ad hominems are very good. They are just witless, obvious nonsensical insults that a dim child at a playground would come up with and think he was all clever. It's like Biff's "make like a tree and get outta here" insult. At least if he had a modicum of intelligence, he light say something entertaining to read. But nope. Just same old dumb stuff. Boring.
@damonkenny7818 No, I don't, actually. What's more, I can communicate my ideas clearly. You're just here to spew preposterous bs for fun, so you can't be bothered to write properly. Confusion is a feature, not a bug, when it comes to a ludicrous troll like yourself.
When Donkey has enough Clozapine He invokes Damon the Green And when supplies are down Online DonKey turns Brown While in debates neither is ever seen!
Atheism is an abstract concept. Or if you’re asking which chemicals make me an atheist, the question contains a false premise: the cause is entirely chemical. The brain works with a combination of neurotransmitter chemical reactions and bioelectric phenomena. I don’t think present day neurology can explain exactly which specific chemicals and neurological brain pathways cause atheism or any other position on any other issue. More to the point, why would it matter? Gods still haven’t been demonstrated.
I have an epistemology I trust based on prior experience and when I apply its principles and methods to the Christian god claim, the determination is that I’m not warranted in believing.
1 Corinthians 15:3-8 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life ROMANS 10:13 For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Moses, like many repeat callers, seems unaware that his definition of evidence differs from others. When hosts cut him off to keep the conversation focused and avoid proselytizing, he may feel silenced. However, maintaining a clear and relevant dialogue is crucial for a productive discussion. I'm sure that he will call back without the changing a single thing with his argument. They rarely ever do.
When people say “I’m not religious, I’m in a relationship.” 🙄🙄🙄
What kind of a cruel god creates ETERNAL torment if you don't find him but then he hides. Sounds like a silly iron age myth to me.
And to make it worse, the god sends dudes like the caller to give hints as to the hidden god’s location.
@@briley2177 But there's no way to tell if that guy's hints aren't designed to throw us off! Because how could it be that we find god through a mango seed? We ALL know that it's durian! Christianity is all stinky on the outside to throw us off, but in reality, it actually tastes good.
Also, ever notice how much Christians talk about how their God is love and then scream about how you'll suffer his wrath if you don't accept him? Like, how do you rectify one with the other? Sounds super abusive.
Divine hidden-ness is why theists sound like bad used car salesman to me.
Surely sounds like something people would make up. And if it’s not made up why would this god choose a method that would appear made up?
This is an excellent example of why I HATE talking about this topic with theists. They either do not know what “evidence” is or they are just being MANIPULATIVE!
Or have been manipulated
"Can I speak?" You don't come here to preach. Every time you ask proof to these religious people, they just want to preach. Go preach to your church!!!
Or barring that. There are these public squares that were set up for such purposes. To tell others your views are om various issues, whether political or religious. And in the US, you are constitutional protected to spew whatever strikes your fancy. Just realizes, that everyone else is also allowed to throw their two cents in to debunk you, or ignore you and walk away
Caller: trust me bro
Just a few days ago a muslim said this to me. 🤣🤣🤣
The Florida boy came here to preach
Fairy tales that he wanted to teach
To people like Denny
Who was one of many
that FloBoi drove into the atheists' breach!
If a Christian creationist constantly get confused about what evolution and abiogenesis is, are they even trying to make a case?
It seems like it's a way to turn off Christians who are bothered by how scientifically inaccurate the bible is.
As a Black American Male, I cringe when another Black American Male starts repeating church talk that has been endocturinated through Christian teachings without using reasoning and skepticism to come to a conclusion. When they are trying to argue their viewpoint, it sounds naive and unintelligent. And when they don't understand that their reasoning is flawed, they ignore it and keep talking, hoping it will eventually make sense. We'll, that just my observation. 😊
As a white American I’m scared to make assumptions like that, but I do know that something that often makes me want to cry is the concept of a black Christian, knowing the history of how and why Christianity took root amongst them.
Wasn't Christianity originally started by Hebrews?
You nailed it, that's exactly what they do.
It's interesting listening to people from more religious countries than mine, you hear them recite stuff and can tell they're just repeating what they hear without actually listening and realising it makes no sense even when someone explains why.
They are waiting for their chance to talk instead of listening to what is being explained to them.
Don't 90% of American churches depict Jesus as white?
@@tryme3969 NO.
First off, NO mango farmer uses mango seeds, all mango farms use grafted trees.
Second, the best tasting mangos come from Aussie😁
Those ones are the tastiest.
Not that we get them at their best over here
@@nealjroberts4050 I still get a tray of them from my uncle (mango farmer in Bowen) every year and he only sends the ones that are Bullocks heart sized 😁
Have you tried a frozen one?😋
Yeah.. his mango analogy collapses at the outset because planting a mango 'seed' will get you a mango tree that is extremely unlikely to produce any fruit.
I should also mention that Moses failed to convert me because I hate mangos.
Truth be told, I just don't like sweet foods.
@@holgerlubotzki3469 At best you get a tree that gives you turpentine mangos and they are only good for making chutney.
Even the bloody flying foxes don't like them.
Just when ya think you have heard the worst call ever….
It's mind boggling how apologists will try to insist that atheists are trying to avoid accountability. The argument makes absolutely no sense, but it let's them feel smug and superior, and that's more important to them than logic.
Then provide an atheist world view to *account* for the existence of objective reality.
I've determined that Damonkey is a POE playing the REALLY long game.
When I challenged him to give just one example of something that's objectively immoral, because he was claiming that he has objective morality, his response was: "what's your proof to prove I can't name a single objective moral right or wrong." That's not a normal person. That's someone acting like the most irrational theist ever.
It's as weird as if someone said, "I bet you can't beat me in a race to the corner." And instead of saying, "you're on," you say, "what proof do you have to prove that I can't beat you in a race to the corner."
@@queuecee Liar, what’s your proof that I “can’t name a single objective moral right or wrong”? An obvious lie.
@@queuecee Kind of like how I realized Doc Brown was a troll when he attempted a triple negative on me
@@queuecee An obvious lie. What’s your proof that I “can’t name a single objective moral right or wrong”?
Allow me to start off by preaching to you guys. 😂😂😂
I thought I was familiar with most theist fallacies, but this is my first ever argument from mangos.
LOL I must admit specifically 'mango' analogy is a first.
What if a child doesn't like mangos? Or allergic to them? This is all very confusing.
Can he do the Scientologist banana? The Hebrew apple? Islam cactus?
Love these two hosts....more of these guys please
I'm a BELIEVER now. I believe many people out there are deluded.
All believers are deluded.
I couldn't agree more, and nobody's more diluted than the atheistic humanist rainbow community for their faith-based beliefs.. it's one thing when they do it to themselves it's a whole other ball game when they mutilate their children.
And they need to keep their faith based beliefs out of the public schools. They have to stop compelling people in speech to acknowledge their atheistic faith-based beliefs which in America is a violation of our constitutional right to free speech and practice religion
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED That was sarcasm. lol. This caller like most, were absolutely ridiculous.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Who? Not some magic invisible made up man. Us. Who else? There is no one else to do it. I have a question. Did the caller in this call do a good job?
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPEDGo away, troll, nobody gives a F***🖕about your boogie man in the sky No matter if he's real or not.. Because your imaginary friend is not worth Any type of praise or worship . F*** your God And the religion he came with!!!!!
Word salad, or is it fruit salad. Take your pick. Pun intended. :)
That joke was bananas
@@canbest7668I thought it was just peachy!
@@Beacon80
Nah… it was rotten to the core.
It’s funniest when the mangoes crazy!
I’ll show myself out.
There was a lot of Mango in there.
When Jack bought Magic Beans...
At least there were actual beans.
Another theist with legit arguments a 12 year old would be unconvinced by... Sigh
I think a simple question that cuts to the chase is to ask anyone who uses the word God.
What exactly are you referring to when you use the word God?
You'll find that the vast majority of people can't answer that question, they don't even know what they mean when they use the word.
Eventually some will end up saying something like "God is a spirit"
Then you ask, do we have any way at all to confirm that spirits exist?
At this point they usually throw a tantrum and tell you to read the bible or tell you you're going to hell, ya know the usual hilarious threats.
How did the caller get a message from his god thing if it is hiding from us?
Mangos… duh
@@briley2177HILARIOUS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why do you hate to worship God but worship things like Rachel Levine. Why do you sacrifice your children to people like Rachel Levine.
How can atheist humanists get a message from that Rachel Levine thing if Rachel's always busy dolling zeiself up.
@@JoeyLustForAshley. Are you really that stupid? I find that hard to believe.
This is exactly what he said before he had the same outcome
I would say Moses is bad at analogies, but maybe he's actually just too fucking arrogant to have an adult conversation.
Good job hosts. Cross examiner needs to let co host talk and not keep interrupting
Wow! Someone go a mango tree and wants to share his mangoes, but nobody believes him??!! So, he couldn't produce a mango to share? If he'd share a delicious mango with me I could say "Yeah, that is a delicious mango!" Now, if he's just TELLING people he has mangoes he wants to share, but only by talking about them, then that is just mean!
Too bad. Would've loved to hear his explanation for God manifesting in "everything" like leukemia, CoViD, HIV, tsunamis, and testicular cancer.
I felt bad for Moses he means well , he’s not bonkers he just believes in some stuff he can’t easily communicate.
But I can’t receive it. It’s a grandiose claim with no evidence.
And I think his feelings were hurt
Once I I was given this metaphor but with cookies: you can only know exactly what the cookie tastes like if you actually put it in your mouth. I proceeded to tell them that one, the existence of a taste depends upon the perception of the taster, so a taste itself is not something that "exists", so that's different from the god claims. Also, since I can hold the cookie, smell the cookie and know for a fact that a cookie exists before I put it in my mouth makes this metaphor lacking; a correct version would be if you told me that I could taste an invisible cookie, that doesn't have smell and is untouchable and I will only taste it if I really believe that it tastes like something, and not only that, but other people have claimed to taste it and felt completely different tastes. So they said: well, like when you see a fruit you know it clearly comes from a tree, so our love and whatever come from God, this tree, to which I said: yeah, just like when you see thunder that's a clear fruit that thor exists, duh!
I think the seed analogy is used more often (although its first for mangos!).
Taste buds are real actually. And we can prove what tastes good or bad for humans.
Clearly other lifeform species have different tastes to humans too, even eating things that would kill us, by their poison alone.
@@kimsland999 yeah, but I never said that taste buds don't exist, though. I said the existence of taste as it is a perception, is dependant on the existence OF the taster, or the taste buds if you will.
When Christians say "God is in your heart," what do they mean by "heart"? My heart is an organ 🫀 that pumps blood through my body but if you're talking metaphorically, then that still doesn't make sense because at that point, a "heart" that is metaphorical could just be emotion.
I think it is something spoken of in the buybull not because it was a metaphor, but because the writers actually thought that the heart was responsible for our emotions, our wisdom, intellect, etc. They pretty much thought that the heart was the brain in ancient Egypt, and that notion probably carried over to the buybull writers.
@@Tuna_Man2323 Ah
@@Tuna_Man2323 Yes this is historically understood, that since the heart would beat faster in say love or excitement, and stop or miss a beat in shock or fear > our ignorant ancestors thought that emotions must come from the heart.
There are many stories about if you cut out the heart then you die and stop loving.
The brain was really thought of things like seeing, hearing etc The brain wasn't given much importance at all.
When we finally found out the heart does not hold emotions whatsoever the church was outraged.
MOST RELEVANT > _Ancient Greek and Roman philosophers similarly considered the heart of utmost importance. Aristotle, in fourth century B.C. Greece, posited that the heart was the source of life and the center of the nervous system_
As far back as ancient Egypt.
_The heart was regarded in Ancient Egypt as the organic motor of the body and also the seat of intelligence, an important religious and spiritual symbol. It was considered as one of the eight parts of human body. Counter to other organs it had to be kept carefully intact in the mummy to ensure its eternal life_
There is a known history of when discoveries that the brain is the part that controls emotions (and thought and self etc).
In the 16th century, Belgian anatomist Andreas Vesalius mapped the nervous system to the brain.
In 1791 Italian Luigi Galvani showed that electricity applied to nerves could make muscles contract.
In the early 1900s, anatomists finally used microscopes to study the brain. Neuroanatomists Santiago RamÓn y Cajal and Camillo Golgi were awarded the 1906 Nobel Prize for identifying that nerve cells (neurons) are the building blocks of the brain, and showing there are many different types.
In 1932 Sir Charles Sherrington and Edgar Adrian won the Nobel Prize for proposing the concept of synapses (junctions between neurons).
From the 1960s there was an explosion of neuroscience research.
CHRISTIANITY and basically all religions have not caught up!
I often say: Christians still believe we are in the Dark Ages 500 CE to 1500 CE
Of witches, Demons, enchantments (chanting) and ridiculous prayers.
They are not commonly informed that the heart DOES NOT produce emotions!
@@kimsland999 Great stuff.
The ancient Hebrews believed the guts were the seat of emotions. It caused some consternation for translation.
This caller is dishonest
I have this very special relationship with this All powerful, All Loving thing. You don't. I'm special, you're not.
I feel like it goes a long way in showing which side actually cares about the truth that SO many people that clearly see Jesus as god can't just say it. They have to do these strange word games where they act like they aren't just saying "Yes I believe Jesus is god" by the end of it.
If you can't laugh at yourself, you didn't get the joke.
32:26 Hey, everybody!
The word of the day:
Scientifical
That’s not a word? Snicker snort….lol
This guy is a repeat caller ,and he is a straight waste of time.
This is wonderful news that the caller said to wait a long time for the tree to grow.
So clearly no child should believe. They should wait until much much older.
To tell you the truth I'm in agreeance, The child should just leave the seed to grow, whilst never worrying about it for a long long time. Maybe say age 25 they could check if the seed grew? But certainly NOT before it grows. As the caller said (in so many words) DON'T believe until it grows. HOORAY.
Literally the caller should go up to children and say: DON'T BELIEVE! Not yet ok. Wait until much much later, but presently: Do ..... NOT .... BELIEVE!
Thank you caller, I'll inform my kids. Actually don't even wait, just check for the evidence when they are much much older.
Agreed.
This guy isn't listening. I wish the hosts wouldn't let him skip their questions.
In mu best Jamaican patois I have a message for Moses and that’s “Mon Go wit ya foolishness!” ☺️
Moses' god is just an analogy so it's unsurprising that he can't produce evidence for it.
Save me from the penticostals 😅
I listened to the whole episode. What a hoot 👌
I'm 13 minutes in, just can't listen anymore
So basically
Please Cross Examiner LET IT GO! He doesn’t have anything.
Let Kelley talk!!!!
This call reminds me of a thing on the web about "kissing Hank's ass" the caller should be advised to google that phrase.
Invisible mango seeds only $50 apiece.
What a steal!
Just bananas!
Mangoes
My mango tree must be defective. I been waiting over 60 years, no mango. Guess I'll go to trusted Walmart 🤷
I live in Florida. What an embarrassment
So do I. Not thrilled with much of it
@@HauntedJack well I love where Iivr in Miami. And love my drives to Tampa and Sabastian to visit family. Just sometimes we come across some real jerks
Is it legal to take "magic mango seeds." Just asking? 🤪
They can all keep their mangos
Great episode.
...And the next religion is offering an invisible Papaya Seed, the next one an invisible Coconut seed, invisible Banana seed (each an invisible tropical fruit).
Moses should take heart and not be let down by everyone criticizing his magic mango seeds. Remember what they told Jack about his magic beans that he sold his cow for? Look who's laughing now!
It's us. We are the ones laughing. 😂
@-D-I-V-A- If you want to post on this channel be prepared to be heavily moderated and your comments removed if they are contrary or questioning to the atheist modus operandi.
@-D-I-V-A- They’ll just mass flag your comments. Have fun with that.
@-D-I-V-A-It's getting filtered even before it gets to my channel. If there are comments that are offensive, such as all the horrible disgusting things that Jim said, they can held for me to review. But I see nothing.
It probably has something to do with the "not see" content, so just try to use euphemisms.
It's interesting how Christians are such liars on these comments.
@@queuecee They're so eager to be persecuted that they see it in mindless algorithms.
Puny god..
~The Hulk
💪🤠☝️
Nicht mickrig.
Nicht existent!
Barry 3.16 - For God so loved his apples that he tormented humanity because an easily led woman was tricked by a talking snake and ate an apple of God.
Does an led message have better contrast than an lcd one? Brighter colors?
Yes
So it is safe to argue that, that didn't go well.
Dude is talking in circles
If you eat the mangos, do you receive love?
If that's the criteria, then that eliminates the Christian god
Also.
Some people just don't fuckin' like mangos.
Moses believes that all humans bleed the same blood🤔
Moses has yet to learn that different blood types exist🤣
Also, Vulcans and their blue blood.
@@queuecee Green...
Cyan?
@@t800fantasm2 Shoot. I thought blue sounded weird.
@@queuecee I only remembered because I saw a clip where McCoy mentioned it yesterday....
I’m so bored of this bloke. He’s talking double Dutch.
I feel dizzy listening to this caller.
😂😂😂😂😂😂Oh, Moses, the men in white coats will be coming, watch for them.
Why is god always talking to mundane people? Instead of, say, World leaders.
Maybe if he came down and actually did something for humanity there’d be a lot more butts in church pews. IF he existed..
you will see, just wait. But why? isnt god supposed to be timeless? like why does WE need patience? I have 40+ years now and be hearing mostly all my life "jesus is coming, jesus is coming" yeah, sure, seem like he doesnt care
Where Do you believe Jesus lives?
What makes you think, He hasn’t already returned?? 🤔
Do these host not understand at all that they both cannot talk at the same time about different things and ask different questions and then be shocked when the caller doesn’t understand what they said
Weak sauce. I do not believe that Moses could lead his people out of a paper bag using reason and evidence, or analogy.
If you tried to follow Moses' analogy, you might end up wandering around for decades.
bro said. Mango 🥭
It's not the Christian God, it's the ONLY god......who just happens to be the Christian one.
That's hilarious because the Hindus believe that when you send prayers to the g0d of Abraham or worship Allah that you are actually worshipping Vishnu by proxy. They thank you for your worship of Vishnu and are happy to let you continue in that fashion without further intervention.
Which is why no Hindu has ever knocked on your door or accosted you on the street in order to try and convert you.
Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 9, Verse 23: "Even those who are devotees of other gods, and who worship them with faith, actually worship me alone, O son of Kunti, but in an improper way."
meltorme-ntor2933, I take it that you believe in some version of Christianity?
It would've been far more productive to just let him present what he wants to present, and explain why that's a bad reason for why he believes what he does.
Of course you can also point out that it's not "evidence" while doing so, and of course you can cut him off and insist that he gets to the point. But if you refuse to let him present his case, because it doesn't meet your specific definition of evidence, it just sounds like you're nitpicking by arguing semantics, which comes across as poorly as some of the most bad-faith theist arguments.
M A N G O S!
Why let this repeat it self when it never worked truly. because both sides find it absurdly entertaining.
What if this world is just a sorting facility ?
Aaron Miriam Pharaoh and all the Levites would be sadly disappointed with Moses's hiccups!
That's why Pastafarism looks so good 2 me now!
Moses Mangoes??????
Hell No!!🤣😆
A big plate of delicious PASSTA an excellent complementary sauce the finest Lunar cheese ((fresh and mined from the moon) and a six pack and I'm OK! 😎
Dishonest.
So all religions are right, but there’s only one true religion
Moses. Guy tells you wild story. Worlds Best Mango. In 5 years. Maybe. If you trust/believe me. If you do it right.
Now the seed...is indetectable. How know?
Trust me bro. Be patient. Nah, MORE patient. Wait.
Waaaait...
Youll know whrn it happens.
Unless youre doing it wrong.
U doin it wrong?
1 Corinthians 15:3-8
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
ROMANS 10:13
For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Counterproductive preaching is still counterproductive
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Atheists already knows the bible isn't reliable for anything. Using bible quotes won't lead you anywhere
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@@t800fantasm2
God Bless You!!
1 Corinthians 15:3-8
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
ROMANS 10:13
For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
It's great comedy and Jim Barrow's shirts are your best material.
Great ad hominem from Daft Dawkins.
@@AXKfUN9mNONE of his ad hominems are very good. They are just witless, obvious nonsensical insults that a dim child at a playground would come up with and think he was all clever.
It's like Biff's "make like a tree and get outta here" insult.
At least if he had a modicum of intelligence, he light say something entertaining to read. But nope. Just same old dumb stuff.
Boring.
Once again Dorkins has no actual argument.
Recycled joke. Get new material.
Why don't you just ask Jim out already? Sheesh! 🙄
Why does atheism remain hidden without proof to define a lack of belief in God?
Why can't Damon K write coherently in English to save his life?
@@amtlpaul That’s why you have a 5th grade reading comprehension.
@damonkenny7818 No, I don't, actually. What's more, I can communicate my ideas clearly. You're just here to spew preposterous bs for fun, so you can't be bothered to write properly. Confusion is a feature, not a bug, when it comes to a ludicrous troll like yourself.
When Donkey has enough Clozapine
He invokes Damon the Green
And when supplies are down
Online DonKey turns Brown
While in debates neither is ever seen!
@@holgerlubotzki3469 Next you’ll cry about alt accounts. Too late!
Atheism is deprived of reason!
Sure. Talking about mango seeds and the most delicious juicy pulpy mangos is sooo reasonable. 😂
@@queueceethis guy’s a troll.
Another day where DaftKins is *TOTALLY TRIGGERED* by the existence of people who are laughing at his g0d delusion!
And your brain was deprived of air, apparently.
Gary, your mom is calling you. Wants to know if you want meatloaf for dinner.
Yet again atheism cannot answer. What chemicals are responsible for your atheism?
The same ones that make the brain do its things.
what?
Atheism is an abstract concept. Or if you’re asking which chemicals make me an atheist, the question contains a false premise: the cause is entirely chemical. The brain works with a combination of neurotransmitter chemical reactions and bioelectric phenomena. I don’t think present day neurology can explain exactly which specific chemicals and neurological brain pathways cause atheism or any other position on any other issue. More to the point, why would it matter? Gods still haven’t been demonstrated.
@@AXKfUN9m A typical atheist equivocation. You lose!
Another day where DaftKins is *TOTALLY TRIGGERED* by the existence of people who are laughing at his g0d delusion!
Are you choosing to be a nonbeliever on your own, or is someone forcing you into nonbelif?
LudiChris Massey chooses to be ludicrous.
I have an epistemology I trust based on prior experience and when I apply its principles and methods to the Christian god claim, the determination is that I’m not warranted in believing.
@diogeneslamp8004 So you're saying someone is forcing you into nonbelif. Thanks for your reply.
Neither.
@@Beacon80 But you are refusing to believe in the existence of someone, right?
Atheism is about as logical as a lead balloon!
Dig those endorphins!
Another day where DaftKins is *TOTALLY TRIGGERED* by the existence of people who are laughing at his g0d delusion!
Mythbusters made a lead balloon once.
Led Zeppelin, baby!
Whine harder OP.
I can't see the sense in atheism.
Another day where DaftKins is *TOTALLY TRIGGERED* by the existence of people who are laughing at his g0d delusion!
You're too Daft to see sense, period!
I can't see the brain in you.
I can see the nonsense in religion.
" can't see the sense"
Not surprising, you're just not bright enough to see sense in it...
1 Corinthians 15:3-8
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
ROMANS 10:13
For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Okay.
Now explain why YOU believe that what you copy pasted is, in fact, true.
Counterproductive preaching is counterproductive.
Do you think it's a sin?
Get a life...
Atheists already knows the bible isn't reliable for anything. Using bible quotes won't lead you anywhere
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