We should honor the unbeatable logic of our man, Gary. Not only is his argument made (up) with math, based on the carved in stone wisdom of the bible, combined with the unchangeable source of effing HUMAN CALENDER (Despite my eruptive laughter, I immediately recall two calendar reforms named after popes. Oh, and sadly there is no special Wiki article besides in German that shows how arbitrary "Christliche Jahreszählung" = the practice of Christian year count really is ) DESIGN ( The German mathematician Christopher Clavius, who played a key role in the creation of the Gregorian calendar, is even called its ARCHITECT!). Guys like Gary don't know what they are talking about. They see the world with their horse-blinders and ignore facts and important knowledge right and left. For example: Let's calculate the hours from last Sunday 12h AM to now. That ... will be achievable for us, don't you think?:) But now, lets unquestionably classify the exact time, when (for the purpose of specifying a REAL time in point and not something that was fiddled around by goat-herders ...). Then lets give this a date. Like the 3. April 33. So, WHO specified that date? A contemporary? A historian? Which calender was used? Are we aware, that back in the time, a month or a special day could simply be repeated! May it be for the wonderful reason of collecting MORE TAXES (These Caesars and Dictators had ideas ... hehehe). And so on:) In short: All his "math" is based on BS. And the worst kind of it: RANDOM BS!:) Have a nice weekend ... oh, think about "repeating months or days" if it is convenient, again!:)))
@@truthgiver8286 I can give that question a pretty intelligent answer. As we know, some opinions are more fact based than others. So, I came to the conclusion that the people with the best interpretations were the ones that didn't hold contradictory beliefs about what scripture meant. Surprisingly, many sects throw out hermeneutics and theosis
"The greek gods kept themselves hidden from people" has me absolutely gobsmacked. Half the friggin' stories about them involve them personally messing with humans!
The gods were always cavorting with humans. Almost all of the heroes of Greek myths were a direct result of Gods literally revealing themselves to humans
@@LaynieFingers Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
@@thesaferoom6968 Their mythology is shared with the Romans but a few names are different for a handful of the Gods. Zeus was fyi married to his sister who was the goddess of marriage and the sanctity of it, and Zeus couldn't stop cheating on her constantly. He has thousands of bastard children among mortal women and ontop of that over half of the time he takes animal form when seducing human women. The stories in this old religion are Wild and that's an understatement. 💁♂️
i mean its possible a flood happened but the scale of it couldve been massively overstated. I dont believe the whole a pair of each animal was put on a boat bs
It's such a casual tone when people say stuff like that, too. He just likes tests... He's wrathful and jealous... mysterious ways... never gives you more than you can handle/it's all part of the plan. Stuff like that... those lines creep me out.
Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
@@cctomcat321 I always love the "never more than you can handle" bit. So, I guess that little kid that got raped and murdered the other day... That was all that they "could handle."
It's sad how little the average Christian knows about this. This should be common knowledge, but it's hard enough to get people to finish reading one single book.
I disagree. IMO the best way to draw people to a new religion is to offer them something familiar but not the same by altering concepts and rituals until they are still recognizable but not the same. When you've lured them in , you convince them although the 'old religion' is similar to theirs, the others have the wrong version and are thus evil. Any claim on how these rituals or concepts became part of the new religion are at first violently 'discouraged' until enough get the message and then it's simply ignored
"When I say there's definitely not a tree, what I mean is that there might be. When I say they didn't have knowledge of good and evil, what I mean is that they did. When I say they were perfect, what I mean is that they weren't."
Religious indoctrination at a young age is very good at distroying brain cells that are used in critical thinking, luckily some people have enough left to overcome the religious rubbish they have been brainwashed with 🧐
Gary's confused. Superman wasn't based on Jesus - he was based on Moses. And in case he didn't notice, the inhabitants of Wakanda worship Bast, the Egyptian cat goddess. Batman has indeed killed in the comics and in the movies
@@Ninhotep Knocked him into a vat of acid actually (Batman: "A Fitting end for his kind") buuut if you want to be technical about it, any of those early appearances where he killed someone were retconned away ages ago. It's hard nailing down official canon for a character as old as Batman but still, canonically, he's never killed. It's his code after all. The movies are their own continuity of course, some have followed the no killing rule, some have not.
@@jetsilveravenger I guess it was the second issue I was thinking of, but he still kills people many times in the old comics: throws guy into vat of acid, kicks jewel thief off roof, breaks a guys neck with a lasso, breaks a guys neck with his kick, shoots two guys dead with a gun while they’re sleeping, etc. Retconning doesn’t change the fact that the issues exist of him killing; many, many issues.
@@IntrovertAncom Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
Yeah dude. Pretty much every isolated civilisation on earth has made up its own myths and legends regarding origins and gods. It is human nature to make things up when we don't have all the facts and are afraid of the unknown. christianity, judaism and islam are no different.
Batman most assuredly killed, especially in the 1930s-1940s. Straight up shooting bad guys in the face and hanging people from airplanes and even knocking people out of windows. It was so extreme that he added Robin to the comic to lighten it up and in his very first appearance, Robin kicked a thug off a girder at a construction site. Superman did his share of killings too before he got reigned in, even as late as the late 80s. Also, the Greek gods appeared ALL the time to mortals. Just read the Iliad and the Odyssey. Derek is correct, as usual. Mythvision is always a font of good information. Athena even appeared and it’s why we have spiders 🕷️ and Dionysius routinely had bacchanals with mortals and creatures alike.
@@AdrieKooijman Right. As Mrs Betty Bowers says “When it comes to things in the Bible that align with what they already think, like homosexuality is an abomination, it’s ’I’m on it, lord!” but when it comes to things that are inconvenient, like eating bacon, it’s “oh, that’s the OLD Testament, it doesn’t apply anymore.”
Those who mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know and love him, do it in hate and not in love. Jesus says if they hate you, remember they hated me first.
@paulgemme6056 that's a false dichotomy. People who mock and point out the moral depravity of the christian gods also do so out of integrity and honesty. Hate isn't necessary. All you are doing is proving the point that jesus had a persecution complex and refused to accept criticism. He was a dishonest interlocutor and a classic cult leader.
@@blumoon131 Read your bible with a pure motive and you will learn truth and the truth will set you free. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. One must recognize the depravity of man. We are sinful beings, spiritually dead. Jesus Christ says a man must be born again, born of the Spirit (Holy Spirit), born from above. Repent - change your mind - believe and be saved today. The days are evil - look around. This evil world is about to go through such a chaotic time like it has never seen in history before. Man's heart is desperately wicked. All have sinned.
@@blumoon131 Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
How millions of people believe our fate was determined by someone picking fruit of a tree and had a snake talk to them is absolutely beyond mind blowing! I'll never fathom the mindset of Christians. I remember telling the Adam and eve story to my 9 year old niece and her response was 'thats so silly uncle jack' . I do enjoy hearing deconversion stories where they look back in disbelief at what they believed in. It must be life-changing losing faith. I think believers must hate reality that much that they need to live in this fantasy.
Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
@@Mmmmilo Those who mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know and love him, do it in hate and not in love. Jesus says if they hate you, remember they hated me first.
@@paulgemme6056 It's perfectly justified to criticise ideas and even mock bad or absurd ideas. No god has been proven real, all claims that gods exist are therefore open to scrutiny. The crazier the idea the more pushback it gets. That is entirely different from mocking people who - sadly - believe the bad ideas. Unfortunately, it can be very difficult as many people who believe these ideas identify themselves with them so much so, that any criticism of the ideas becomes - in their eyes, a personal criticism. Criticism of an idea is not necessarily hatred of the idea, though it can be: racism comes to mind.
@@jeuandavidjones Impure motives. You just want to mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know him so you can feel justified. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth (Jesus Christ) is not in him. Many witnesses walked and talked with Christ Jesus after he was resurrected. If you study history many proclaim the truth of the life of Jesus Christ even unbelievers. Atheists, this world and the devil offer no hope. Only God/Jesus Christ offers hope. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing.
Someone tells you: If you do X, the consequences will be Y. Someone what tells you: That's wrong. If you do X, the consequences will be Z. How are you supposed to know who to believe? It isn't that you're dumb. It's that you're innocent. "Beetaratagang" or "clerendipity"? Which do you choose? One is the embodiment of all that is loving and good while the other leads to strife and evil. Which do you choose? You're not stupid, so why do you hesitate?
I bet Adam and Eve did not even know what death was since they would never have seen death in humans. So threatening them with death seems ridiculous !
"Grant Morrison's Batman isn't REAL Batman. Even though his comics were included in the canon, I don't count them as real. Batman would never shoot anyone, not even Darkseid. Grant Morrison was just writing canon Batman fanfiction." The Apocrypha are this but with Yahweh and Jesus instead of Batman.
@@goonerbear8659 Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
Just look at the trees! How hard is that? The tree of life, the tree of knowledge, the tree of ignorance, that of suspicion, the one of toothache, the one my dog likes to pee on, and so on.
I was wondering if The Line could maybe add a reading/source 'library' list to your channel? Perhaps one for many of your programs? ⚘Great channel, and thanks!💯
Those who mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know and love him, do it in hate and not in love. Jesus says if they hate you, remember they hated me first.
@paulgemme6056 that's a false dichotomy. People who mock and point out the moral depravity of the christian gods also do so out of integrity and honesty. Hate isn't necessary. All you are doing is proving the point that jesus had a persecution complex and refused to accept criticism. He was a dishonest interlocutor and a classic cult leader.
Superman was designed by two jewish men. They used Moses as inspiration. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were also jewish. So saying these superhero stories are based on the christian bible isn’t accurate.
The designers of Superman were ethnically Jewish. They were not religiously Jewish. There is no good evidence that they used Moses as an inspiration. That was just speculation. Lee and Kirby were probably only ethnically Jewish too. Lee was an atheist, I think. Kirby could well have been too and the Superman creators.
@@nuoiptertermer4484 My point was less about their worship than the environment they grew up in. Also, Moses in the basket, Kal in the rocket. It’s a common story element even outside judaism.
My understanding is that Superman was based more on the character of the Jewish Messiah, not Moses or Jesus. He is certainly a messianic figure nowadays.
The caller has no clue about Mithology. As Derek pointed out, the gods of ancient cultures DID mingle with humans, producing many demigods in the process, with Cúchulainn, Hercules, Perseus, Helena, Imhotep, Bragi, Gilgamesh among many others.
If God wants his message spread EVERYWHERE, why does he only show up to certain people and tell THEM to spread the word, when he has the power to appear to everybody ALL AT THE SAME TIME? Seems pretty stupid.
It's even worse. Humans need messages because they can't immediately make their thoughts known everywhere. Why does your superjesus need to send a fax? Gimme a break.
How does watching sci-fi and sci-fantasy films have anything to do with the mental process involved in deciding about religious issues? Gary knows lots of intellectual sounding words, but he has no coherent, logical or provable thoughts. Critical thinking left the chat. Just a load of dishonest waffle.
Gary would benefit from reading _Hero With A Thousand Faces_ by Joseph Campbell. There's a reason why you can find parallels between stories through the ages, because it was *humans* who wrote the stories. Compelling and satisfying stories are going to have common traits.
Understanding the difference between good and evil doesn't mean "death," the story says that God said to themself that if they know the difference between good and evil then they will be like God, and that's why they were kicked out of the garden. Because they would be able to live forever and know right from wrong, and God wanted to have a huge advantage over his own creation. It's really manipulative.
IIRC the phrase "good and evil" is supposed to be a literary device meaning "everything", like how "looking high and low" means looking everywhere. Which makes Genesis even weirder because god was apparently ok with Adam and Eve living forever, just so long as they didn't also get too big-brained.
He means Batman never kills.....in cannon. I don't know diddly about comics, but I do know there are a handful of stories where he does actually kill someone.
First time I've heard about MythVision, he was great and I can see great synergy between Matt and him so yeah, I would like to see more of MythVision in the show.
I'm glad, soo glad, to live in the acknowledged most secular country in the world in which shows like this would be a total waste of time. I do, however, appreciate the fact that in nations like the USA where religion permeates society these kind of shows are essential.
"Can a perfect being do anything wrong?" "God is perfect and can do no wrong." Asks the question again: "Can a perfect being do anything wrong?" "Yes." It's like watching someone tap dance with two left feet.
I don't know how someone can think the Greek gods didn't reveal themselves to people. That's literally all they did all day long. There wouldn't even be any of those crazy stories if the Greek gods ever decided to stay on Mt Olympus, mind their own business, and - oh by the way - keep it in their pants. Im completely blown away by the ignorance of it. It's like saying "how come the Transformers never tried to just hang out on Earth and blend in?" Bro that's their _whole thing!_
An interesting question - can a perfect person sin ? According to Matt. D. it is not possible. Why ? Is that an assumption on his part ? If it is possible for a perfect person to sin then is it not possible for God to sin as well ? Anyone have any more ideas on this hypothetical question ?
10:56 Noah’s flood never happened. Every branch of archaeology and paleontology debunks the idea that we descended from a 600 year old man who was magically within walking distance of millions of animal species and then placed them all on a wooden box that couldn’t float nor provide proper ventilation via a single window.
24:36 Gary is so INCREDIBLY dishonest here, saying that Adam and Eve knew eating the fruit was wrong after saying they didn’t even understand good and evil. It’s pathetic.
The US and the evil world are divided because of the deception of the evil one (Satan - the devil). Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever. Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
Stan Lee was born Stanley Lieber. He was Jewish, not a Bible-thumping Christian. Of course, Gary didn’t bother to do any research about that fact. Stan Lee also didn’t create the Superman character. Superman was created by Jerry Seigel and Joseph Shuster. These two men were also Jewish!! FFS, Gary lives in a rich fantasy world were he’s as an imperious to facts as Superman supposedly is to bullets…
14:24 Regarding Adam becomming mortal. Genesis 3:22 "And the Lord God said: "Man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He shall not reach out his hand and take from the tree of life and eat and live forever." So there was actually an antidote fruit tree in the garden that could have saved Adam and Eve from death? (If they only knew?)
40 days and 40 nights is an idiom. It is like saying it took forever to go through the line at the store....It took 40 days and 40 nights to go through the line at the store.
I love hearing all the callers just claiming Christian when that is just a group of related denominations. Are none of these guys really Lutheran, Episcopalian, Presbyterian etc. etc. It seems kind of like they are afraid the hosts can debunk their faith if they get too specific. I love his "Her hid himself. He hid himself." So the all powerful all knowing God can have people hide from him? Didn't God also had to call out to them when they were hidden. Shouldn't he have just known where they were?
Drawing parallels between religion and comic books is not the flex you think it is... And saying Batman doesn't kill means you're not even familiar enough with comics to discus the subject.
I was a dramaturge on a physical theatre production a couple of years ago. The choreographer/director and I wanted a simple scenography consisting of a grassy floor with autumns leaves, a single tree and a sense of light gradually and unnoticably changing as it would with changing weather. It was a case of economy meeting poetry. So we told the scenographer - we’d like a tree centre stage with no leaves because thats the time of year we’re at Scenographer looked at us knowingly, a seasoned 70s Jung-programmer: aaah yes - the tree of life! We were like : Nnno - just a tree please. Didactically trying to avoid forcing disagreement scenopgrapher asks: Well what is the STORY of the tree? How did it get to where it is - and where is it heading? Us: It’s just a tree mate. Scenographer: Yet all the things in this room have a history - and the audience senses that - so we should use it to our advantage. Us: We just want to show them a tree, to do with what they like. The audience is probably able to focus on what we present to them if we keep it clear and consistent. The theatre has a story too - we’re not telling that either, because they can probably tell the difference between real space and performative space. Scenographer: It’s a strong symbol though - a TREE … Us: … AND - sometimes, its just a tree. A dead tree someone put in a theatre. Scenographer: but what are we saying with that tree?! Us: were saying sometimes there’s a tree and some leaves and some grass and some weather, and some people doing physical stuff about life and memory slipping between our fingers. Scenpgrapher: Well why not a sofa then? Us: thats actually not a bad idea. Maybe a tree AND a sofa. But just for sequences 4 and 7. Scenographer: Ok but what is the STORY of the sofa hmm? Us: 🤫 - it’s like poetry … it rhymes.
@@jns8393 nobody knows dramaturges 😄👍. We are like a secret service where noone really cares about the secret or the service, but will take the result if it works … it took a while for me to be even sure that a dramaturge was what I kinda was … had too look it up and check the boxes …
Dude, I love how some Christians think they just sorta know all this for sure because they came up with their own original anime character Jesus on the toilet while taking a crap. How does he know any of this? Religious people put so mucb stock in their ability to just come up with answers that are internally somewhat consistent, then call those the facts. Just cuz you thought of it, and it makes sense to you, it could still ALL be wrong. They never EVER provide evidence for how they know any of this shit.
I love how Dereck went into extra detail about the origins of Gods, as he has had many expert scholars on MythVision. I also like how Derek pointed out that the difference between Mat and him, is vast with regards to their tolerance of callers diatribes but this is due to the fact Matt has done this for so long now, he knows the framework of their responses.
This just proves how religion evolves. Since Superman may have some bilblical uses, that doesn’t mean that 1000 years from now that if people are worshiping Superman it doesn’t mean that he was real.
Why would God need to test people when he knew they would fail his test because he set them up to fail? The answer is simple - that's what narcissistic abusers DO. It's about maintaining power over their victims. It's all part of the process of gaslighting. Seriously, if this god existed he would be worthy only of contempt, not worship
I absolutely love these people.....their way of dealing with errors, omissions and contradictions is to create rationals to deal with them, but they do not realise that these rationals then generate more errors, omissions and contradictions.
It's funny how Christians say the Bible is not for private interpretation while giving a private interpretation
We should honor the unbeatable logic of our man, Gary. Not only is his argument made (up) with math, based on the carved in stone wisdom of the bible, combined with the unchangeable source of effing HUMAN CALENDER (Despite my eruptive laughter, I immediately recall two calendar reforms named after popes. Oh, and sadly there is no special Wiki article besides in German that shows how arbitrary "Christliche Jahreszählung" = the practice of Christian year count really is ) DESIGN ( The German mathematician Christopher Clavius, who played a key role in the creation of the Gregorian calendar, is even called its ARCHITECT!).
Guys like Gary don't know what they are talking about. They see the world with their horse-blinders and ignore facts and important knowledge right and left. For example: Let's calculate the hours from last Sunday 12h AM to now. That ... will be achievable for us, don't you think?:) But now, lets unquestionably classify the exact time, when (for the purpose of specifying a REAL time in point and not something that was fiddled around by goat-herders ...). Then lets give this a date. Like the 3. April 33. So, WHO specified that date? A contemporary? A historian? Which calender was used? Are we aware, that back in the time, a month or a special day could simply be repeated! May it be for the wonderful reason of collecting MORE TAXES (These Caesars and Dictators had ideas ... hehehe). And so on:) In short: All his "math" is based on BS. And the worst kind of it: RANDOM BS!:)
Have a nice weekend ... oh, think about "repeating months or days" if it is convenient, again!:)))
@@vladg8983 But atheists give their own interpretation too
Atheists give it their own interpretation too and argue about their authority on what it says and means. 😂
So many interpretations I always ask who gets to decides which is right,
@@truthgiver8286 I can give that question a pretty intelligent answer. As we know, some opinions are more fact based than others. So, I came to the conclusion that the people with the best interpretations were the ones that didn't hold contradictory beliefs about what scripture meant. Surprisingly, many sects throw out hermeneutics and theosis
"The greek gods kept themselves hidden from people" has me absolutely gobsmacked.
Half the friggin' stories about them involve them personally messing with humans!
Demigods, anyone? How many women did Zeus get with?
The gods were always cavorting with humans. Almost all of the heroes of Greek myths were a direct result of Gods literally revealing themselves to humans
i didnt know that ^0^7 ive been lerning about the greeks lately but i havent delved into their mythology yet
@@LaynieFingers Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
@@thesaferoom6968
Their mythology is shared with the Romans but a few names are different for a handful of the Gods.
Zeus was fyi married to his sister who was the goddess of marriage and the sanctity of it, and Zeus couldn't stop cheating on her constantly.
He has thousands of bastard children among mortal women and ontop of that over half of the time he takes animal form when seducing human women.
The stories in this old religion are Wild and that's an understatement. 💁♂️
The 7000th anniversary of Noah's flood hasn't even happened yet and will never happen because Noah's flood never happened.
Also, the Hebrew calendar marks years differently than we do now, so years are meaningless
Like, not just that they're on a different year than we are, but those years don't even have the same amount of months or days. Bible math is so dumb.
i mean its possible a flood happened but the scale of it couldve been massively overstated. I dont believe the whole a pair of each animal was put on a boat bs
@@JPanettieriexplains people living for 900 years!
As a geologist, the biblical flood is the most easily dismissed story. Any Christian using it is in the same category as a flat earther.
Even after 30 years of yoga, I still lack the ability to contort myself like this caller. I hope he can break out of his indoctrination.
God likes to test? When he knows the outcome? And does so when the punishment for failing the test is eternal torture? Now THAT is evil.
It's such a casual tone when people say stuff like that, too.
He just likes tests... He's wrathful and jealous... mysterious ways... never gives you more than you can handle/it's all part of the plan.
Stuff like that... those lines creep me out.
@@cctomcat321indeed it's right out of a cult
Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
@@cctomcat321 I always love the "never more than you can handle" bit. So, I guess that little kid that got raped and murdered the other day... That was all that they "could handle."
so god can test us but we cannot test him?
The irony that the bible is fan fiction of older myths/ mythology.
It's sad how little the average Christian knows about this.
This should be common knowledge, but it's hard enough to get people to finish reading one single book.
It's like the saying "nothing new under the sun".
@@BlueBarrier782
It has been disproven, though, that the Bible plagiarized older stories
@@theparadigm8149 😂lol. Yeah... right.
Some source material for this alledged disproof ?🤔
I disagree. IMO the best way to draw people to a new religion is to offer them something familiar but not the same by altering concepts and rituals until they are still recognizable but not the same. When you've lured them in , you convince them although the 'old religion' is similar to theirs, the others have the wrong version and are thus evil. Any claim on how these rituals or concepts became part of the new religion are at first violently 'discouraged' until enough get the message and then it's simply ignored
"When I say there's definitely not a tree, what I mean is that there might be. When I say they didn't have knowledge of good and evil, what I mean is that they did. When I say they were perfect, what I mean is that they weren't."
I can't wait until Jesus vs the Multiverse arrives in movie theaters summer of '25
PLS GOD NO hu3
And Jesus is the Big Bad ;-)
Still waiting for phase two!
The sequel "Across the Jesusverse" is gonna be lit 😤😤😤
You need to watch Jenny Nicolsons video about the Church play cinematic universe, they actually do this but onstage musicals.
I'm going to invest in a cement company. The number of times this guy moved the goalposts is gonna make me rich!
"wakanda stands for god in 'african languages'" you'd think a normal person wouldn't be so credulous as to accept something like that at face value
This guy has fallen so far down the rabbit hole. I don’t think he can ever find his way out!
As have millions of other jews, muslims and christians. Mass delusion.
He is lost forever in fantasyland.
He just has to be a flat Earther
Religious indoctrination at a young age is very good at distroying brain cells that are used in critical thinking, luckily some people have enough left to overcome the religious rubbish they have been brainwashed with 🧐
Are you saved?
Sounds like Gary made this call while wearing his Hasbro Iron Man helmet.
Love it😅
Gary's confused. Superman wasn't based on Jesus - he was based on Moses.
And in case he didn't notice, the inhabitants of Wakanda worship Bast, the Egyptian cat goddess.
Batman has indeed killed in the comics and in the movies
@@IanM-id8or Correct. The creators of superman were Jewish.
My mon Bats don't shiv !
Yeah I think Batman threw a burglar off a building in the very first comic.
@@Ninhotep Knocked him into a vat of acid actually (Batman: "A Fitting end for his kind") buuut if you want to be technical about it, any of those early appearances where he killed someone were retconned away ages ago. It's hard nailing down official canon for a character as old as Batman but still, canonically, he's never killed. It's his code after all. The movies are their own continuity of course, some have followed the no killing rule, some have not.
@@jetsilveravenger I guess it was the second issue I was thinking of, but he still kills people many times in the old comics: throws guy into vat of acid, kicks jewel thief off roof, breaks a guys neck with a lasso, breaks a guys neck with his kick, shoots two guys dead with a gun while they’re sleeping, etc. Retconning doesn’t change the fact that the issues exist of him killing; many, many issues.
I understand why he likes comic books. His religious views are comic.
God is the antagonist
@@dekay1428 we can say thanos is HALF of the bible god, he only erase HALF of civilization lel
How do you not laugh in someone's face when they are so ridiculous?
Right! There's no way I could listen to all that and keep a straight face.
@@IntrovertAncom Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
Does he not realize that the Bible is basically fan fiction of older religions?
Whoops. Myth vision got there first. Lol
Yeah dude. Pretty much every isolated civilisation on earth has made up its own myths and legends regarding origins and gods. It is human nature to make things up when we don't have all the facts and are afraid of the unknown. christianity, judaism and islam are no different.
@@TheTruthKiwibut it’s more than that. They basically ripped at least a dozen local ancient near east religious figures/stories for their own
@@W333L gilgamesh is basicaly same story lol
@@banishedbrTrue, but you forgot to mention that gilgamesh was older.
You are so wrong it just isn't funny....come at me BRO!!!!!!
Batman most assuredly killed, especially in the 1930s-1940s. Straight up shooting bad guys in the face and hanging people from airplanes and even knocking people out of windows. It was so extreme that he added Robin to the comic to lighten it up and in his very first appearance, Robin kicked a thug off a girder at a construction site.
Superman did his share of killings too before he got reigned in, even as late as the late 80s.
Also, the Greek gods appeared ALL the time to mortals. Just read the Iliad and the Odyssey. Derek is correct, as usual. Mythvision is always a font of good information. Athena even appeared and it’s why we have spiders 🕷️ and Dionysius routinely had bacchanals with mortals and creatures alike.
Let's never forget the hundreds that died in Ace Chemicals when '89 Batman blew it to Hell.
@@nikolaiiscoolguyproduction4807 and the chubby clown he put a 💣 down his pants and Bats smiled
This is a kind of old testament new testament: just forget the bad things from the old books if these are not matching your ideas.
@@AdrieKooijman Right. As Mrs Betty Bowers says “When it comes to things in the Bible that align with what they already think, like homosexuality is an abomination, it’s ’I’m on it, lord!” but when it comes to things that are inconvenient, like eating bacon, it’s “oh, that’s the OLD Testament, it doesn’t apply anymore.”
Is Gary speaking from under a blanket? Very muffled. lol Matt
Just said it 😅
Speaking through a tin can
I’m 4 minutes in and I’m not sure i can finish this vid. I have my speaker cranked and my ear bent to hear the caller.
Gary is too far gone to reason anymore, he's given up his humanity for a fairy tale.
Those who mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know and love him, do it in hate and not in love. Jesus says if they hate you, remember they hated me first.
@@paulgemme6056you just said a whole lot of nothing.
@paulgemme6056 that's a false dichotomy. People who mock and point out the moral depravity of the christian gods also do so out of integrity and honesty. Hate isn't necessary. All you are doing is proving the point that jesus had a persecution complex and refused to accept criticism. He was a dishonest interlocutor and a classic cult leader.
@@blumoon131 Read your bible with a pure motive and you will learn truth and the truth will set you free. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. One must recognize the depravity of man. We are sinful beings, spiritually dead. Jesus Christ says a man must be born again, born of the Spirit (Holy Spirit), born from above. Repent - change your mind - believe and be saved today. The days are evil - look around. This evil world is about to go through such a chaotic time like it has never seen in history before. Man's heart is desperately wicked. All have sinned.
@@blumoon131 Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
In addition to not knowing about good and evil, how could Adam and Eve really understand the concept of death and dying?
And how could a world populate from one person Adam, let's not forget that God cloned Eve from Adam's Rib hahahaha
Have you ever seen Dave Allen's skit on Adam and Eve?
Well worth a quick search and watch
@pencilpauli9442 ....he points it out to her!!. 😂😂
Love that skit.
@@socrates1954 🤣🤣
@@pencilpauli9442I just watched it and I will never look at noses the same way again.
Indictrination should be considered a crime, it's so destructive.
Religious inoctrinaton should be considered a form of child abuse, at the least
16:21 “I might need some correction here.” Yeah, no shit, Gary.😑🤦🏼♂️
I can't believe I just spent more than 1/2 an hour listening to an adult talking about magical fruit.
How millions of people believe our fate was determined by someone picking fruit of a tree and had a snake talk to them is absolutely beyond mind blowing! I'll never fathom the mindset of Christians. I remember telling the Adam and eve story to my 9 year old niece and her response was 'thats so silly uncle jack' . I do enjoy hearing deconversion stories where they look back in disbelief at what they believed in. It must be life-changing losing faith. I think believers must hate reality that much that they need to live in this fantasy.
“Classical gods did not want to appear in front of mortals, so why should God?” Bro what classical books did you read??
Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
The idea of living forever is an utter horror to me.
The Good Place shows this concept so fantastically. Living forever with only happiness is robotic hell, not heaven.
@@Mmmmilo I rather enjoyed that series. A lot of excellent giggles.
@@Mmmmilo Those who mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know and love him, do it in hate and not in love. Jesus says if they hate you, remember they hated me first.
@@paulgemme6056 It's perfectly justified to criticise ideas and even mock bad or absurd ideas. No god has been proven real, all claims that gods exist are therefore open to scrutiny. The crazier the idea the more pushback it gets.
That is entirely different from mocking people who - sadly - believe the bad ideas. Unfortunately, it can be very difficult as many people who believe these ideas identify themselves with them so much so, that any criticism of the ideas becomes - in their eyes, a personal criticism. Criticism of an idea is not necessarily hatred of the idea, though it can be: racism comes to mind.
@@jeuandavidjones Impure motives. You just want to mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know him so you can feel justified. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth (Jesus Christ) is not in him. Many witnesses walked and talked with Christ Jesus after he was resurrected. If you study history many proclaim the truth of the life of Jesus Christ even unbelievers. Atheists, this world and the devil offer no hope. Only God/Jesus Christ offers hope. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing.
Someone tells you: If you do X, the consequences will be Y.
Someone what tells you: That's wrong. If you do X, the consequences will be Z.
How are you supposed to know who to believe? It isn't that you're dumb. It's that you're innocent.
"Beetaratagang" or "clerendipity"? Which do you choose? One is the embodiment of all that is loving and good while the other leads to strife and evil.
Which do you choose? You're not stupid, so why do you hesitate?
I bet Adam and Eve did not even know what death was since they would never have seen death in humans. So threatening them with death seems ridiculous !
Great discussion as usual. Also like that Derek had scholarly background knowledge.
Batman did kill.
"I made a solemn vow about firearms. But for YOU, i'm making a once-in-a-lifetime exception."
"Grant Morrison's Batman isn't REAL Batman. Even though his comics were included in the canon, I don't count them as real. Batman would never shoot anyone, not even Darkseid. Grant Morrison was just writing canon Batman fanfiction."
The Apocrypha are this but with Yahweh and Jesus instead of Batman.
Also ignoring the early origins of batman just as they ignore the origins of yahweh. Batman literally carried a pistol @goonerbear8659
@@goonerbear8659 Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
Just look at the trees! How hard is that? The tree of life, the tree of knowledge, the tree of ignorance, that of suspicion, the one of toothache, the one my dog likes to pee on, and so on.
Gary is just writing his own bible fan-fiction.
I was wondering if The Line could maybe add a reading/source 'library' list to your channel? Perhaps one for many of your programs? ⚘Great channel, and thanks!💯
I don’t know if he has a bibliography, but Derek’s Myth Vision channel is all about scholars and books.
In 10,000 years, someone will find a copy of The Lord of the Rings and swear it holds some ancient truth.
Amusingly, much like Christians and their bible, most LOTR fans haven't read their Silmarillion. For the same reason.
@@kellyrestiaux9846 OOOOF I did once it was HARD WORK
How this call went for almost 40 min is baffling.. This guy was all over the place with every possible nonsense he could think of
Matt and Derek together-what a treat!! ❤
What made Adam and Eve commit sin was a flaw in their design.
It wasn’t a flaw; god purposefully made them make the mistake that basically doomed all of humanity. God is a monster.
So that would mean that not only is god not infallible he's genuinely a fuck up
Those who mock God/Jesus Christ and those who know and love him, do it in hate and not in love. Jesus says if they hate you, remember they hated me first.
@@paulgemme6056blah blah blah...
There is no god.
Grow up.
@paulgemme6056 that's a false dichotomy. People who mock and point out the moral depravity of the christian gods also do so out of integrity and honesty. Hate isn't necessary. All you are doing is proving the point that jesus had a persecution complex and refused to accept criticism. He was a dishonest interlocutor and a classic cult leader.
"I am Jesus!"
- Groot.
Superman was designed by two jewish men. They used Moses as inspiration. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were also jewish. So saying these superhero stories are based on the christian bible isn’t accurate.
The designers of Superman were ethnically Jewish. They were not religiously Jewish. There is no good evidence that they used Moses as an inspiration. That was just speculation. Lee and Kirby were probably only ethnically Jewish too. Lee was an atheist, I think. Kirby could well have been too and the Superman creators.
@@nuoiptertermer4484 My point was less about their worship than the environment they grew up in.
Also, Moses in the basket, Kal in the rocket. It’s a common story element even outside judaism.
My understanding is that Superman was based more on the character of the Jewish Messiah, not Moses or Jesus. He is certainly a messianic figure nowadays.
These callers are entertaining and scary at the same time.
The caller has no clue about Mithology. As Derek pointed out, the gods of ancient cultures DID mingle with humans, producing many demigods in the process, with Cúchulainn, Hercules, Perseus, Helena, Imhotep, Bragi, Gilgamesh among many others.
It’s also full of parable and symbols from ancient astrology.
Heracles 😅
Biblical stories are repeats of many human creative writings. Common in all people.
gary has conflated into a frankenstein of an amalgamation the marvel universe, the biblical universe and the real universe.
If God wants his message spread EVERYWHERE, why does he only show up to certain people and tell THEM to spread the word, when he has the power to appear to everybody ALL AT THE SAME TIME? Seems pretty stupid.
Free will I think is the usual bullshit answer
Almost seems like it's just people trying to spread their delusions
It's even worse. Humans need messages because they can't immediately make their thoughts known everywhere. Why does your superjesus need to send a fax? Gimme a break.
How does watching sci-fi and sci-fantasy films have anything to do with the mental process involved in deciding about religious issues? Gary knows lots of intellectual sounding words, but he has no coherent, logical or provable thoughts. Critical thinking left the chat. Just a load of dishonest waffle.
Really cool to see Derek on the show. Love his interviews!
Calling in from crazy land 😂
Gary would benefit from reading _Hero With A Thousand Faces_ by Joseph Campbell.
There's a reason why you can find parallels between stories through the ages, because it was *humans* who wrote the stories. Compelling and satisfying stories are going to have common traits.
It's astonishing to me how people don't see that the story of Adam is a just so story.
When god said to adam, do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil lest you die. Why didn't adam ask, lord, what is die?
Because it’s a made up story
Groot on a thumbnail? The hell am I about to watch. 😂
Jesus Tree = Groot
33:22 "...I'm in the image of my mom and dad...just like I'd imagine many people are..." just how many siblings does Derek MythVision have? 🙂
This caller reminds me of an evangelical pastor. Both of them have their own ideas behind how and why the first couple ate.
Understanding the difference between good and evil doesn't mean "death," the story says that God said to themself that if they know the difference between good and evil then they will be like God, and that's why they were kicked out of the garden. Because they would be able to live forever and know right from wrong, and God wanted to have a huge advantage over his own creation. It's really manipulative.
IIRC the phrase "good and evil" is supposed to be a literary device meaning "everything", like how "looking high and low" means looking everywhere. Which makes Genesis even weirder because god was apparently ok with Adam and Eve living forever, just so long as they didn't also get too big-brained.
Gary, your god is a monster. Matt, this is one of the best shows you have done. Derek, I have great respect for your knowledge.
"they knew the difference between good and evil were before they knew the difference between good and evil!"
Good job Gary.
Great to see Derek MythVision in the house..
He means Batman never kills.....in cannon. I don't know diddly about comics, but I do know there are a handful of stories where he does actually kill someone.
First time I've heard about MythVision, he was great and I can see great synergy between Matt and him so yeah, I would like to see more of MythVision in the show.
...I prefer The Matrix version. Makes more sense than what this dude is going on about.
The matrix has better kung fu also lol
I'm glad, soo glad, to live in the acknowledged most secular country in the world in which shows like this would be a total waste of time.
I do, however, appreciate the fact that in nations like the USA where religion permeates society these kind of shows are essential.
"Can a perfect being do anything wrong?"
"God is perfect and can do no wrong."
Asks the question again: "Can a perfect being do anything wrong?"
"Yes."
It's like watching someone tap dance with two left feet.
Can God make a car that is so small, that he cannot get into it? Nice to see Derek and Matt together!
Depends on how the god appears to the object or if the object is commanded to transform to accommodate the original command in perpetuity.
I don't know how someone can think the Greek gods didn't reveal themselves to people. That's literally all they did all day long. There wouldn't even be any of those crazy stories if the Greek gods ever decided to stay on Mt Olympus, mind their own business, and - oh by the way - keep it in their pants.
Im completely blown away by the ignorance of it. It's like saying "how come the Transformers never tried to just hang out on Earth and blend in?" Bro that's their _whole thing!_
"In that day, though shall surely DIE"
Wow ,maybe that means Deadpool really is Marvel Jesus!!!
An interesting question - can a perfect person sin ? According to Matt. D. it is not possible. Why ? Is that an assumption on his part ? If it is possible for a perfect person to sin then is it not possible for God to sin as well ? Anyone have any more ideas on this hypothetical question ?
It's simple, if you sin, you aren't perfect. So no, no, no and no.
God is perfect and can do no wrong but a perfect being can do wrong! Poor Gary, to have so spectacularly failed and still refuse to admit it!!
Derek sounds great! Looking forward to hear more arguments!
He's literally just making it up as he goes along 🤣
+10 points for Derek saying Heracles and not Hercules ❤
I guess he missed that Jesus has come back, in the form of Deadpool
This clip is fantastic
10:56 Noah’s flood never happened. Every branch of archaeology and paleontology debunks the idea that we descended from a 600 year old man who was magically within walking distance of millions of animal species and then placed them all on a wooden box that couldn’t float nor provide proper ventilation via a single window.
How wonderfully confused. I hope he calls again.
The Special Pleading is strong in this one.
24:36 Gary is so INCREDIBLY dishonest here, saying that Adam and Eve knew eating the fruit was wrong after saying they didn’t even understand good and evil. It’s pathetic.
I really like Derek in this mode. Really useful.
The US is divided. Because of people like this caller.
The US and the evil world are divided because of the deception of the evil one (Satan - the devil).
Read your bible with a pure motive and you may come to believe (be saved) and know the power of God's love, saving grace and his mercy that endures forever.
Jesus Christ is alive and well. Jesus Christ is our only hope of salvation. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. One can deny the truth (Jesus Christ) but that will never make him go away. The devil has been trying to do that since the garden. Atheists, this evil world and the devil offer no hope. They only offer death, pain, sorrow, sickness, corruption, greed, envy, hatred.
@@paulgemme6056
Shh, Child, adults are discussing politics right now.
It’s amazing. Thousands of years of theological and biblical debates and disagreements, and this guy figured it all out
Stan Lee was born Stanley Lieber. He was Jewish, not a Bible-thumping Christian.
Of course, Gary didn’t bother to do any research about that fact.
Stan Lee also didn’t create the Superman character.
Superman was created by Jerry Seigel and Joseph Shuster. These two men were also Jewish!! FFS, Gary lives in a rich fantasy world were he’s as an imperious to facts as Superman supposedly is to bullets…
Bit of irony, too, that Superman is vulnerable to Magic.
14:24 Regarding Adam becomming mortal. Genesis 3:22 "And the Lord God said: "Man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He shall not reach out his hand and take from the tree of life and eat and live forever." So there was actually an antidote fruit tree in the garden that could have saved Adam and Eve from death? (If they only knew?)
40 days and 40 nights is an idiom. It is like saying it took forever to go through the line at the store....It took 40 days and 40 nights to go through the line at the store.
Has he ever read a greek myth? Because most of them start with “Zues was bored and kinda horny. . .”
I like it when he bangs a chick while in the form of some random bird and the chicks are cool with it
Hold on in which African language? Does he think Africa is a country?
We can assume he thinks jesus spoke English
I love hearing all the callers just claiming Christian when that is just a group of related denominations. Are none of these guys really Lutheran, Episcopalian, Presbyterian etc. etc. It seems kind of like they are afraid the hosts can debunk their faith if they get too specific. I love his "Her hid himself. He hid himself." So the all powerful all knowing God can have people hide from him? Didn't God also had to call out to them when they were hidden. Shouldn't he have just known where they were?
oh yeah this call... I remember this call.
Drawing parallels between religion and comic books is not the flex you think it is... And saying Batman doesn't kill means you're not even familiar enough with comics to discus the subject.
I was a dramaturge on a physical theatre production a couple of years ago. The choreographer/director and I wanted a simple scenography consisting of a grassy floor with autumns leaves, a single tree and a sense of light gradually and unnoticably changing as it would with changing weather. It was a case of economy meeting poetry.
So we told the scenographer - we’d like a tree centre stage with no leaves because thats the time of year we’re at
Scenographer looked at us knowingly, a seasoned 70s Jung-programmer: aaah yes - the tree of life!
We were like : Nnno - just a tree please.
Didactically trying to avoid forcing disagreement scenopgrapher asks: Well what is the STORY of the tree? How did it get to where it is - and where is it heading?
Us: It’s just a tree mate.
Scenographer: Yet all the things in this room have a history - and the audience senses that - so we should use it to our advantage.
Us: We just want to show them a tree, to do with what they like. The audience is probably able to focus on what we present to them if we keep it clear and consistent. The theatre has a story too - we’re not telling that either, because they can probably tell the difference between real space and performative space.
Scenographer: It’s a strong symbol though - a TREE …
Us: … AND - sometimes, its just a tree. A dead tree someone put in a theatre.
Scenographer: but what are we saying with that tree?!
Us: were saying sometimes there’s a tree and some leaves and some grass and some weather, and some people doing physical stuff about life and memory slipping between our fingers.
Scenpgrapher: Well why not a sofa then?
Us: thats actually not a bad idea. Maybe a tree AND a sofa. But just for sequences 4 and 7.
Scenographer: Ok but what is the STORY of the sofa hmm?
Us: 🤫 - it’s like poetry … it rhymes.
Dramaturge - a new word I've just learned, thanks!
@@jns8393 nobody knows dramaturges 😄👍. We are like a secret service where noone really cares about the secret or the service, but will take the result if it works … it took a while for me to be even sure that a dramaturge was what I kinda was … had too look it up and check the boxes …
This might only be a minor nitpick, but the Christopher Nolan.Batman absolutely killed that guy in the garbage truck during the chase scene
Comparing the bible to comic books. Quite appropriate. 😁😄😆😅🤣😂
Dude, I love how some Christians think they just sorta know all this for sure because they came up with their own original anime character Jesus on the toilet while taking a crap. How does he know any of this? Religious people put so mucb stock in their ability to just come up with answers that are internally somewhat consistent, then call those the facts. Just cuz you thought of it, and it makes sense to you, it could still ALL be wrong. They never EVER provide evidence for how they know any of this shit.
I love how Dereck went into extra detail about the origins of Gods, as he has had many expert scholars on MythVision.
I also like how Derek pointed out that the difference between Mat and him, is vast with regards to their tolerance of callers diatribes but this is due to the fact Matt has done this for so long now, he knows the framework of their responses.
It bugs me how ppl read "there was a talking bush", but if I tell sum1 I talked to a bush n now they have to understand i am the new prophet....
My wife had a burning bush ! she had ointment
A true "christian's" favorite pastimes: moving the posts and hell-threatening...
This just proves how religion evolves. Since Superman may have some bilblical uses, that doesn’t mean that 1000 years from now that if people are worshiping Superman it doesn’t mean that he was real.
lol, I love when so called smart bible people come on and try to "preach" some BS to an actual smart bible person called Matt. Priceless!!!
Well, that's new. I've never heard an argumentum ad comic books lol
Why would God need to test people when he knew they would fail his test because he set them up to fail?
The answer is simple - that's what narcissistic abusers DO. It's about maintaining power over their victims. It's all part of the process of gaslighting.
Seriously, if this god existed he would be worthy only of contempt, not worship
Exactly!
Matt and Mythvision make a great good cop bad cop duo. The Trees line of questioning was brilliant in particular
I absolutely love these people.....their way of dealing with errors, omissions and contradictions is to create rationals to deal with them, but they do not realise that these rationals then generate more errors, omissions and contradictions.