What’s wrong with lockdown drills for school shootings?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
  • To teach students how to protect themselves from an active shooter most American schools run lockdown drills - but could they do more harm than good?
    00:00 - What are lockdown drills?
    00:43 - When did lockdowns become widespread?
    01:25 - What are the national guidelines?
    01:47 - The impact on children
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Комментарии • 102

  • @caloricphlogistonandthelum4008
    @caloricphlogistonandthelum4008 6 месяцев назад +36

    What’s wrong with lockdown drills.... How about they're not tackling the root of the problem?

    • @jvm-tv
      @jvm-tv 6 месяцев назад

      Freedom is the roots

    • @prancer1803
      @prancer1803 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@J.C.1966the issue is not firearms. The issue is mental health and in many cases violent crime.

    • @waxdood
      @waxdood 5 месяцев назад +1

      no, its not.

    • @DiamondTheObbyist
      @DiamondTheObbyist 4 месяца назад

      The gun isn’t the bad thing, the mind is.

    • @ourfamilychannel9309
      @ourfamilychannel9309 2 месяца назад

      As someone who lives in a country where we don't have guns, I'm glad our children don't have to be traumatised so that people can 'protect'tl themselves. I admire your cannabis laws but I'm concerned by your gun culture

  • @thehangmansdaughter1120
    @thehangmansdaughter1120 6 месяцев назад +20

    This is horrific. And completely bizarre. Living in NZ I have never had to worry about my kids being shot at school. I can't imagine how terrifying the whole thing must be for children, teachers and parents.

    • @victortesla4198
      @victortesla4198 6 месяцев назад

      Christchurch shooting???

    • @AveryWeinstein
      @AveryWeinstein 6 месяцев назад

      I literally had an escape plan in my head at all times. I didn’t want to be a sitting duck if something were to happen. I thankfully graduated from high school in 2016 without any incidents happening at my school. It was a bit scary during the drills because the administrators would come and bang on the doors to make it more realistic. We knew it was a drill, but it was still unsettling.

    • @roblawrence3795
      @roblawrence3795 5 месяцев назад +1

      But there was that New Zealand shooter a few years back. It could happen anywhere.

    • @eveninglightphotography9969
      @eveninglightphotography9969 3 месяца назад

      @@roblawrence3795yup. The one that could’ve been stopped by an ordinary armed citizen but they were scared of getting in trouble.

  • @greeneileen
    @greeneileen 6 месяцев назад +20

    The Barcelona school my children attended did a drill without notice to parents that absolutely traumatized my then kindergartener. Then they complained to me that for weeks afterward he was trying to climb the fences that gate in the playground - because they'd made him feel uncertain and unsafe - he was trying to be prepared to escape. Spain doesn't even have America's gun problem.

  • @Arulane
    @Arulane 6 месяцев назад +46

    Other than making our kids live in a war zone rather than get serious about confronting our gun problem?

  • @vladrazym9955
    @vladrazym9955 6 месяцев назад +50

    What a madness!
    One of the richest countries in the world needs to make drills against school shootings 😢

    • @dprcontracting6299
      @dprcontracting6299 6 месяцев назад +3

      So glad I don't live there

    • @snowflakemelter7171
      @snowflakemelter7171 6 месяцев назад +2

      What has money got to do with it?

    • @vladrazym9955
      @vladrazym9955 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@snowflakemelter7171 in most of the cases in rich developed countries there are no such things as massive shootings, as people are educated enough not to go into it

    • @Physics_IsaacHan
      @Physics_IsaacHan 6 месяцев назад +1

      What is the relationship between being rich and having some people in the country who kills others unjustified?

    • @vladrazym9955
      @vladrazym9955 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Physics_IsaacHan just read my answer above - in rich countries there are no such people, because they are developed countries with educated people

  • @rohitmishra670
    @rohitmishra670 6 месяцев назад +10

    In Asia they do earthquake and fire drill. America has unique set of problem's

    • @9sheri9
      @9sheri9 6 месяцев назад +1

      @OP We also do weather related & fire drills here in the US as well. 🤷‍♀️

  • @accoomes20
    @accoomes20 6 месяцев назад +9

    My parents kept a newspaper photo of me as a kid crying hysterically after participating in a fire evacuation simulation at the state fair and I'm now a well adjusted adult....mostly.

  • @9sheri9
    @9sheri9 6 месяцев назад +7

    The purpose of a routine drill is so that it becomes 2nd nature in the event of emergency. If there are schools that are simulating realistic events of this nature, this would be a problem. A realistic event simulation with children involved is a horrible idea & counterproductive.
    Generally speaking - When one knows what to do in the event of emergency, they are less inclined to panic & shut down during an event as well as remain abnormally fearful of a future event that may or may not happen. Knowing what to do is empowering & life saving.

  • @finnbarrett3845
    @finnbarrett3845 6 месяцев назад +13

    There was a particularly bad accident that nearly resulted in a death at my old school a while ago. This happened shortly after the shooting where police waited for hours to storm the building, so the 7/11 gets robbed for the 3rd time that year and by proxy the school goes on lockdown and sends a VERY vague email to both parents and teachers. This lead to a parent armed with a gun trying to break into the school, I still remember being crowded in the locker room, watching as students cry and call their parents and the teachers trying to do their best to maintain order. Due to the noticeable fear the teachers were displaying student became louder, which only served to increase fear once the teachers couldn’t keep the kids quiet. I just sort of zoned out and though to myself well I guess this may be where I die. Somehow the gunman was peacefully apprehended and the police didn’t shoot on sight, he ended up doing community service and the school just pretended it never happened

  • @alexh2065
    @alexh2065 6 месяцев назад +4

    With the US thanksgiving approaching I'll just say how thankful I am to not be living in such an insane country.

  • @griffina5192
    @griffina5192 6 месяцев назад +2

    In a real lockdown no one is calmly sitting in the corner one of the most scared times I've ever been was when we had a lockdown drill in elementary except they didn't say it was a lockdown until it was over if they say before hand no one takes it seriously say afterwards everyone's traumatised but again they're pointless in a real event no one is grouping up in the corner

  • @RBuckminsterFuller
    @RBuckminsterFuller 6 месяцев назад +3

    Symptom of a sick society.

    • @Yahweh312
      @Yahweh312 6 месяцев назад

      Tic toc synagogue of satan money power tic toc

  • @d1427
    @d1427 6 месяцев назад +3

    what ca be wrong with such drills for kids in a culture of violence? Perhaps change the culture through education?!

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp 6 месяцев назад +6

    They did the same thing in the cold war times for air raids. But they told the kids they would survive under their wooden desks from an atomic bomb remember. Nothing that we are going through today is original we went through it in some other form before. Kids were terrified in school during the cold wars. And it looks like we plan to keep that tradition

    • @MrLunarlander
      @MrLunarlander 6 месяцев назад +1

      You're right that nothing is original; in other countries arguably at even higher risk of nuclear attack than the US during the Cold War, we didn't do performative "duck & cover" drills in schools. There's something very US-specific about this kind of drill in schools.

  • @enchantedsiyoon
    @enchantedsiyoon 6 месяцев назад +4

    The students at my school don't even actually do the drills anymore because we've had so many fake ones.. the way some schools do them is terrifying.

  • @dann6888
    @dann6888 6 месяцев назад +1

    We go on soft lockdowns frequently when the local bear shows up.

  • @shrekchrist2857
    @shrekchrist2857 4 месяца назад

    Our teacher told us if the shooter is reported in an area away from ours that we should dash out the exit and to the generator shack in the woods.

  • @tcbe2k
    @tcbe2k 6 месяцев назад

    Last Friday at my school, we had a lockdown drill. There were 2 people laughing, so what does my teacher do? Give the entire class a detention, of course!
    We get to serve it next Monday

  • @Physics_IsaacHan
    @Physics_IsaacHan 6 месяцев назад +3

    What came to my mind is the following;
    Analogously, war can happen. If you put every resource into preemptively preparing for war, you will crush it when the war actually happens, but you 'waste' so much utility by responding inadequately. On the other hand, if you are not prepared for war at all, the outcome would be atrocious when it actually happens. On that note, let's analyze what was introduced.
    1. How much utility do you gain from the drill? It should depend on the probability of happening and the probability of getting physically inflicted given the incident actually happened.
    2. What is the cost? Some are psychological, fiscal, and even political. I suspect kids' political alignment can be influenced by telling how often about gun violence. If you tell gun violence 24/7, it would be different from saying no outside news at all.
    3. I feel the frequency of the lockdown drills is more influenced by the state's political alignment rather than the actual utility of the drill.,, But passing a bill limiting the global amounts of drills seriously undermines the complexity of issues.

  • @scottmarquardt3575
    @scottmarquardt3575 6 месяцев назад +1

    They should start playing my favorite rap song on the radio too- duck and cover

  • @waleedkhalid7486
    @waleedkhalid7486 5 месяцев назад

    My question is whether or not the techniques actually work. Everyone knows them. The people who commit the crimes have often been a part of those drills themselves and know the procedures. What is to stop a gunman from shooting the lock of the door and entering a room they know has people inside? People who are all usually huddled into a corner with no way out? It’s insane that our best defense is such a maneuver instead of legislation and cultural reform.

  • @alexandrinobruno
    @alexandrinobruno 6 месяцев назад

    Pensa numa espécie que deu errado..

  • @Alwyn_Nito
    @Alwyn_Nito 6 месяцев назад

    I hardly dream but when I do, it's weird

  • @ngyb
    @ngyb 3 месяца назад

    I would argue that students who plan to commit such atrocity might familiarise themselves with the lock down procedures and find ways to exploit it especially if a student at the school and also bunching the students together seems more of hinderince. I understand the doors are locked and room secure and im no expert this is just my opinion.

  • @MrFilip121
    @MrFilip121 6 месяцев назад +1

    The land of the free and the home of the brave

  • @justsayin5609
    @justsayin5609 6 месяцев назад

    Bomb drills in the '50's, fire drills ongoing since then. What's the issue? Knowledge is power. Maybe those complaining of traumatized children need to be raising more resilient children instead of coddling them. This unfortunately is a fact of life in America. Count my blessings I don't live there daily, despite living 10 minutes away.

  • @containedhurricane
    @containedhurricane 6 месяцев назад

    No free bulletproof vests and metal detectors at schools yet

    • @erez2111
      @erez2111 6 месяцев назад +1

      We had a threat and brought in metal detectors on the first day of school during my second year of high school.

  • @tylerdurden4006
    @tylerdurden4006 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think it might be the shooting part, just maybe...

  • @alexcampbell6745
    @alexcampbell6745 6 месяцев назад

    To cancel your subscription, The Economist forces you to chat with an agent or call their toll-free line. Then they will ask you multiple times to try various offers for ten minutes before FINALLY canceling your subscription. I will never subscribe to The Economist again!

  • @jvm-tv
    @jvm-tv 6 месяцев назад

    What's wrong with them? They are called freedom drills!!

  • @ambika7793
    @ambika7793 5 месяцев назад

    Horrible lockdown ...

  • @silentai3826
    @silentai3826 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why not finish the video... Was I baited to just watch an intro for a paid article?

  • @Khaled_Fadl
    @Khaled_Fadl 6 месяцев назад +5

    I'm in love with the presenter's voice

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  • @serra4401
    @serra4401 6 месяцев назад

    "Spain is losing its democracy at the hands of a narcissistic and amoral politician. Please help us before it's too late."

  • @oldpossum57
    @oldpossum57 6 месяцев назад +2

    The trauma of lockdown procedure drills is not isolated. Parents and kids in USA live with knowledge that, apparently, more kids die in shootings than by disease or accidents. The Americans have a gun culture, much of it irrational, that they cannot dispel.

    • @codyeby
      @codyeby 6 месяцев назад

      That’s blatantly false. FBI data shows car accidents are WAY higher than gun violence. Most gun related deaths of children are parent or gang related.

  •  6 месяцев назад +2

    Children have to think about learning and the future in peace. Not about guns, what brings money for richest people.

  • @erez2111
    @erez2111 6 месяцев назад +3

    I spend my entire k-12 school with these drills. I just got used to them they were just like a fire drill for me. It was not just lock down but really hide, run, fight.

  • @importantname
    @importantname 6 месяцев назад +2

    A lock down drill is for prisoners; you criminals are lockdowned because you are being punished. And is training a victim mentality - you are going to be killed in this school. Lockdowns also put many targets, prey into one small space, making it easy for the predator, as they know the lockdown will coral their victims.

  • @lastChang
    @lastChang 6 месяцев назад +1

    In China 🇨🇳, violent crimes are usually committed by the state, not individuals. Victims of violence are by the thousands.
    - Examples are: Tibetans in Tibet, Uyghurs in Xinjiang, and Tiananmen Square.

  • @franko1642
    @franko1642 6 месяцев назад

    whats wrong?? amazing how they let hppen school shootings

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO 6 месяцев назад +1

    So now switching lights off can cause children trauma? It's really pathetic how weak and unready for life you're making your kids, fearing even slightest stress for them. How they suppose to grow up if you preventing any troubles altogether? This overcaring situation in developed countries really should stop, outside of creating weak people it's also discouraging people from having kids in the first place, because they think there's too much responsibility.

  • @samuelbcn
    @samuelbcn 6 месяцев назад

    They are not students, they are pupils

    • @oldpossum57
      @oldpossum57 6 месяцев назад +2

      In many North American dialects, including mine, the word pupil is less often used than students. And we teachers (and administrators, when they aren’t being watched) call them kids.

    • @justsayin5609
      @justsayin5609 6 месяцев назад

      Potayto, potahto. Stick to the point or go home.

  • @johnmarstonlives
    @johnmarstonlives 6 месяцев назад

    Like attracts like

  • @MOBMJ
    @MOBMJ 6 месяцев назад

    or we can just ban assault rifles, just an idea.

  • @dennisatkins9666
    @dennisatkins9666 6 месяцев назад +1

    Some. Americans TALK ABOUT SUPERIOR DISCIPLINE, others talk about human rights

  • @Iamthatiis
    @Iamthatiis 2 месяца назад

    This is silly. Stop being so sensitive, and know that it’s true, not preparing is not caring.

  • @theahalme
    @theahalme 6 месяцев назад

    I hope kids in other countries already do an empowered child does not have to endure more mental emotional stress if they know what to do giving them confidence and competence It may save theirs or someone else's children 🌼🤍🕊️🕯️✝️💜🙏🕯️

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    @phannahang5068 Месяц назад

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    @Ca-kt6hb 6 месяцев назад

    Capitalism, happiness...

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    @SolaceEasy 6 месяцев назад

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  • @user60521123
    @user60521123 6 месяцев назад

    The kids shouldn’t know what the drill is for. The teachers could turn the drills into a game. Not knowing the purpose of the drill doesn’t have to change its effectiveness.

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    @aof13 6 месяцев назад +1

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