Well that'd be not surprising with modern race tires, brakes, and aerodynamics, have those GT1 fit with those things as well surely something will prevail. Most recent race cars are just faster with modernization of those, try and apply them on the older ones then that'll be something.
Idea, Could you do the first race car from each category (1950s F1vs 1960s atcc all vs 2014 formula E) I think it would be cool to see old cars from different eras battling at the same time.
_It's actually the perfect track for this experiment, since it's a mix of long straights, where the LMP and Cart can shine, and then a sector full of medium to high speed corners, where the F1 and Super Formula shine, completely balanced._
It would be interesting to conduct such a test on a track where most of the cars in the test do not perform. Something with unique elements like the Laguna seca corkscrew
Strictly speaking that's not an IndyCar. It's a Champ Car. IndyCars at the same time were either Dallara or G Force chassis. Champ Car was Reynard and Lola. It would be good for future videos if you could have a split screen? As much if the time it's impossible to see what's going on in different places with the field so spread out. Just a suggestion.
I thought the rally car would have a limited top speed so I expected it to be further back in last at a place like spa because of the NASCAR stock car's top speed. But then I remembered NASCAR mostly races on ovals so wouldn't be as aerodynamically efficient at cornering on a circuit.
If this race was done on an oval track I predict the open wheeled cars of course would dominate, especially the Indi car leading, and I believe the Cup car would be fairly close behind being that's what they were purposely built for.
900 horsepower yes, but I imagine the gearing is so long that it takes its time accelerating. Add that to having to lift into Eau Rouge/Raidillon and it's most likely not reaching 200 by the time it gets to Les Combes.
@dominicbarden4436 at cota the gen 6 would get around 175-180, so I'd imagine that the 2014 gen 6 would get close to 200 at spa. Just assetto and default gearing makes it not get there
@@russianbubbawallace8681 Yeah that's what I was getting at. Though I think it would be hard pushed to reach 200 at Spa even if it had gearing more suited to the track. With four gears, the ratios are going to be long anyway, I guess it'd depend on how you compromise top speed and acceleration. It'd also depend on how fast it takes Eau Rouge/Raidillon, which, I don't know, 120-ish, give or take a few mph? Or is it capable of taking it quicker if you really load up the downforce? Best case I think it'd get to would probably be a similar speed to COTA, maybe near 190 at a push. In the 190-200 range, not sure.
a little misleading. That Penske Reynard was the fastest IndyCar ever on an oval but the current IndyCars are faster in road/street trim than those cars were.
@@marcotuliodelareti They were pretty equal in 2017, but the TS050 did the lap record in LeMans and won 5 races out of 9 that year. So that should give it the edge, it lost the championship due to a pretty unfortunate 6th in LeMans.
to be fair that formula e looked pretty held up there. if it got away out of a corner earlier im sure it would have given chase to the supercar and challenged it too.
@@Marko137-em8nx if we compare nascar and FE, the nascar is the boring one, it's basically just a car on steroids. The FE looks like a sci-fi spaceship, has grooved tires and a strange sound. It's very unique and far from boring.
Idk what gen 3 formula e car that is but it ain't close to the ones running in real life that is way way too slow. Like a formula e car would demolish a cup car around a circuit as the old gen 2 was a little slower than gt3 pace if translated to full size circuits. Also it's literally the fastest accelerating car currently in circuit racing and yet every video it is the absolute slowest thing off the line. And I just watched a cup car out accelerate it out of a corner. And then the ai just gave up after that😭
@@meldwinramos9656 and after 60 mph is slow af. Awd give more motors and additional batteries witch mean more weight. So slower in corners and straight after initial launch.
That's just because the car that he is using in the video is the old version of the Gen 3 car but in season 11 Porsche livery. The updated version (the gen 3 evo) could accelerate up to 100km in 1.82 seconds, the cars have awd and have better tires than the og gen 3. In fact, just watch the season 11 Sao Paulo free practice session to see how fast these cars go.
The AI is terrible at overtaking unfortunatly. If we want to see a race that is even a littlebit representative, they must be put in order. If every car was driven by a human, reverse order would defintitly be the better option
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What's your favourite racing car of all-time?
W11
Porsche 917k or 919 hybrid tribute
Torino NG
2017-2023 NASCAR Toyota Camry
LMP1 Toyota 2019-2020
The W11 is so stupidly fast I love it
Same also to R92CP.
The Formula E car finished behind the Gen 6 NASCAR, but is listed as ahead.
I guess he had 1second penalty
Here to remind that the GT500 and pre-GT3 DTM (like the one you're seeing here) cars are faster than the late 90's GT1 missiles.
Well that'd be not surprising with modern race tires, brakes, and aerodynamics, have those GT1 fit with those things as well surely something will prevail. Most recent race cars are just faster with modernization of those, try and apply them on the older ones then that'll be something.
@@Lawren2222_technological progress has enabled the cars of today to be faster than that of yesteryear
I think they are faster than nowadays lm hypercar. The lap time on Fuji is the only comparation though
Idea, Could you do the first race car from each category (1950s F1vs 1960s atcc all vs 2014 formula E) I think it would be cool to see old cars from different eras battling at the same time.
It would be so cool fr
1950s f1 ain’t making the 3rd corner bro
3 Team Penske race cars
The track when downforce is required
Spa is a medium downforce F1 track, leaning more towards low drag than high downforce.
Downforce is always “required”.
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_It's actually the perfect track for this experiment, since it's a mix of long straights, where the LMP and Cart can shine, and then a sector full of medium to high speed corners, where the F1 and Super Formula shine, completely balanced._
@@KirigayaOokamiand the wrc fits where?
@@luisdias3939 _Não encaixa, é uma categoria demasiado diferente das outras e não existe circuito nenhum onde possa utilizar o off-road._
I’m impressed that the NASCAR was able to hold off the Formula e.
900 hp vs 400 hp, slick vs road tyres
@@epicmotorsport856I guarantee you that it’s the horsepower not the tires. The Formule E was all over it in the last two corners.
How fast would Formula E be with slicks?
We need a sequel to best cars in motorsports history
Maybe the worst cars
Formula E can go 0 to 60 in 1.86 Seconds Fast as the pitstop in F1
It is true that that car seen in the video is not a Gen 3 evo, because the gen 3 evo has new front spoilers.
Formula E beating WRC only by less than 4 seconds. 💀
the Formule gen 3 evo would be way faster in real life. This formule car was gen 1 speed.
Are they running Allinol?
The W11 car is like X2010 due to how fantastic the handling is.
I say run this again, but with a longer track. Give some of the cars a chance to open up.
... This is Spa? A notoriously long circuit?
You're right, should've done it in Südschleife
Duh!
The GT500 being only 19 seconds off the F1 is crazy
19 seconds in racing is light years
Lol no it's not that's a huge difference
@@kvngVengeanceTV i know but is a GT car
It would be interesting to conduct such a test on a track where most of the cars in the test do not perform. Something with unique elements like the Laguna seca corkscrew
Theorethical quali laps?
u should've place the formulas on the last position. put the slowest car on the first position and put the fastest one on the last.
Formula E Gen 3 evo actually makes 0-100 in just 1.82 seconds 😅
Strictly speaking that's not an IndyCar. It's a Champ Car. IndyCars at the same time were either Dallara or G Force chassis. Champ Car was Reynard and Lola.
It would be good for future videos if you could have a split screen? As much if the time it's impossible to see what's going on in different places with the field so spread out. Just a suggestion.
I thought the rally car would have a limited top speed so I expected it to be further back in last at a place like spa because of the NASCAR stock car's top speed. But then I remembered NASCAR mostly races on ovals so wouldn't be as aerodynamically efficient at cornering on a circuit.
Was really hoping the CART would beat the evo… still imo the coolest race cars ever made
what if monza was called freakza and instaed of max on top of lewis' car he was on top of him in bed
f1 has peaked
💀
But that's bumpy ride, sparks will fly. Or something else.
bruh wha?
@@TS020RaceCar99 you heard me loud and clear
If this race was done on an oval track I predict the open wheeled cars of course would dominate, especially the Indi car leading, and I believe the Cup car would be fairly close behind being that's what they were purposely built for.
Cup car wouldn’t be close at all, fastest speed recorded in a stock car in a race is 212-216 MPH and the fastest in an Indycar is 240-250.
@@Ian22011 True, but it would be fun to watch and see how they stacked up
@@Ian22011would still be interesting. If Auto Club Speedway exists for this game then bring these cars there.
my top 3, 1. W11 2. LMP1 3. LMP3
wait... no Race truck? No Super Stadium Truck?
Why you put the 991.2 RSR when the 488 GTE Evo kicked his loved a$s 😭😭
I got a new video idea for you : all loudest racecars in history
Ohh
@ thx for reacting
You should have been brought Ryan Newman's 2000s Penske #12 car
🚀
Is there any mods for the Formula E gen 3 evo car?
Not yet
Were can i find that super gt mod?
it'd be interesting to have a reversed grid. the fastest starting at the back and the slowest starting in pole.
They have the nascar not even doing 200 mph with 900 horse?
900 horsepower yes, but I imagine the gearing is so long that it takes its time accelerating. Add that to having to lift into Eau Rouge/Raidillon and it's most likely not reaching 200 by the time it gets to Les Combes.
@dominicbarden4436 at cota the gen 6 would get around 175-180, so I'd imagine that the 2014 gen 6 would get close to 200 at spa. Just assetto and default gearing makes it not get there
@@russianbubbawallace8681 Yeah that's what I was getting at. Though I think it would be hard pushed to reach 200 at Spa even if it had gearing more suited to the track. With four gears, the ratios are going to be long anyway, I guess it'd depend on how you compromise top speed and acceleration. It'd also depend on how fast it takes Eau Rouge/Raidillon, which, I don't know, 120-ish, give or take a few mph? Or is it capable of taking it quicker if you really load up the downforce? Best case I think it'd get to would probably be a similar speed to COTA, maybe near 190 at a push. In the 190-200 range, not sure.
@dominicbarden4436Also the Kammel straight is uphill so that would slow the acceleration
@@nck7695that would slow all of them down
could you remove the helicopter audio and allow the audio for the cars
game's name? Assetto?
imagine if w11 had ground effects like todays cars
It would take the first corner flat out 🤣
If that was true, then or the driver would die from extreme g forces, or the car would tip over, if that was possible in the first place
a little misleading.
That Penske Reynard was the fastest IndyCar ever on an oval but the current IndyCars are faster in road/street trim than those cars were.
the reason why the 1999 indycar is faster is cuz they are unrestricted beasts
Almost 11 seconds behind☠️☠️
Bring Ferrari F2004 with slicks and then W11 feels a little slow
You forgot Volkswagen Beetle
Hol'up, that Toyota s050 is faster than porsche 919?
The 919 evo isnt a race car
@epicmotorsport856 the normal 919, from 2016
@@marcotuliodelareti They were pretty equal in 2017, but the TS050 did the lap record in LeMans and won 5 races out of 9 that year. So that should give it the edge, it lost the championship due to a pretty unfortunate 6th in LeMans.
The GT500 is even faster than the DTM and has times closer to LMP1.
Where’s the 919?!?!?
You mean the Evo or the race car? The Evo isn’t a racing car, the normal version wasn’t as fast as the Toyota
@ ooh, I’m sorry. I meant any of em, but thanks for replying
The fact that 3 of the cars on the field are Toyota's is actually crazy
3 Toyota 🤝3 Team Penske cars
i dont know why but i always feel disrispected when the formula e gets cooked by a god damn nascar
disrespected*
It’s 400 HP vs over 900 HP. Of course the Formula E car will struggle.
Disrespect, Nascar cup cars from 2014 had high HP. Compare to the boring Ev
to be fair that formula e looked pretty held up there. if it got away out of a corner earlier im sure it would have given chase to the supercar and challenged it too.
@@Marko137-em8nx if we compare nascar and FE, the nascar is the boring one, it's basically just a car on steroids. The FE looks like a sci-fi spaceship, has grooved tires and a strange sound. It's very unique and far from boring.
Idk what gen 3 formula e car that is but it ain't close to the ones running in real life that is way way too slow. Like a formula e car would demolish a cup car around a circuit as the old gen 2 was a little slower than gt3 pace if translated to full size circuits. Also it's literally the fastest accelerating car currently in circuit racing and yet every video it is the absolute slowest thing off the line. And I just watched a cup car out accelerate it out of a corner. And then the ai just gave up after that😭
Not to mention that it is just the original gen 3 not the gen 3 evo.
0:05 the Mercedes is also f1? Seriously?
W11
You put anything on a road course with f1 obviously they loose maybe a large oval or a very long straight
Nascar beats Formula E so I'm happy lol
The nascar 900 hp, vs 400 hp so ofc it will struggle
The f1 car winning every time gets a little boring haha
😮
Not even gen 3 evo. Just gen 3. Disappointed. Dislike
Formula e is slow af.
It seemed like the AI didnt even try to overtake.
They really aren't. Similar speeds to GT cars with treaded tires
The gen 3 evo has awd and can accelerate up to 100km in just 1.82 seconds.
The one in the video isn't even a Gen 3 evo at all, it's just the original gen3 car with the purple Porsche livery.
@@meldwinramos9656 and after 60 mph is slow af. Awd give more motors and additional batteries witch mean more weight. So slower in corners and straight after initial launch.
The formula e is so damn boring. I expected a lot more but why is it so slow? Poor WRC car. It’s not built for high speed race tracks.
That's just because the car that he is using in the video is the old version of the Gen 3 car but in season 11 Porsche livery. The updated version (the gen 3 evo) could accelerate up to 100km in 1.82 seconds, the cars have awd and have better tires than the og gen 3. In fact, just watch the season 11 Sao Paulo free practice session to see how fast these cars go.
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The AI is terrible at overtaking unfortunatly. If we want to see a race that is even a littlebit representative, they must be put in order. If every car was driven by a human, reverse order would defintitly be the better option
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