KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES Movie Review | Owen Teague | Freya Allan
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- It's yet another "Planet of the Apes" movie, whether we needed it or not. "Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes" takes place many generation after the events of 2017's deeply moving "War for the Planet of the Apes." But while it features some impressive special effects and thrilling moments of action, it never really justifies its existence or lengthy running time. Directed by Wes Ball, who made "The Maze Runner" trilogy. Written by Josh Friedman. Starring Owen Teague, Freya Allan, Kevin Durand, Peter Macon and William H. Macy. In theaters now.
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I disagree. The twisting of the words of their Jesus (Cesar). I think it’s extremely timing. It was a joy to watch in theaters and while a spectacle of technology I enjoyed the story. Really was taken by the ending and can’t wait to see what’s next. Is anyone as good as Cesar? No not as of yet but I’m willing to give this arc a chance. Oddly one of the praises yall gave was for the female lead and I thought she was a bit of a weak link.
Isn't this one more about how 'the teachings' of how a well-intentioned 'forerunner' can be twisted and manipulated into a grotesque form or even the completely polar opposite of the original person, whether real or imagined?
So like Dune?
What?
@@davadh no
Dan Murrell got into it a bit in his review. He was more positive because he saw the film as a commentary on legacy. YMMV.
I guess Alonso never watched Beneath the Planet of the Apes, because this movie borrows a lot of ideas from that sequel but improved upon them. The religious cults of apes and the underground intelligent humans.
Did they watch the same movie? They missed the new themes completely. Religion. Legacy. Evolution of society. And you can’t compare this to WAR because it had two movies to set it up. This was a great movie to start a new trilogy with.
Thats why i wonder how this ppl review movies😂. If i had to review something i would watch more carefully lol
I loved this one. I loved how the underlying theme is present in the first scene with the eggs. I love the moral dilemma and even more how it plays out. I really didn't know where this was going. I thought it was charting brand new territory until the end, and then I leaned over and whispered to my wife how it relates to the first set of movies. This is not an issue though. It is very well done, and is a major improvement. Somewhere in the middle, they cross a bridge, and I saw the "forbidden zone" scarecrows from the original 1968 movie, and then I heard the music from the original score - all I could do was smile. The effects are seamless and so realistic, I was fully immersed. The story is great. I wasn't expecting it to be this good, and I can't wait to see the next one.
This director Wes Ball was given the task of following an amazing trilogy one of the best , maybe ever. Making this movie now under the guide lines of Disney and wanting to also pay homage to the OG films which the original, being older than Star Wars, I thought he did an amazing job, having just watched every POTA movie, this is based in a never seen before timeline it does get into aspects of religious like / political figures and how their words can be twisted to ones own benefit. That is just as much as the films before have said, Im glad this one didn't try to beat us over the head with the way of water, or every other Disney films agenda these days. That being said, this is the first there is more to build off of, and more character growth to see, I personally cant wait.
The whole time I was just thinking that “Hey that one guy sounds like Bortis from The Orville, I looked it up on IMDB and lo and behold it’s the guy who is Bortis lol.
I really enjoyed it. It's a little too long but there's not much I would cut. It doesn't need to be made except to make money, but there's a compelling story, a wide range of well-developed characters, everyone has a story-arc, and the craft on display and the clarity of the action set-pieces is incredible - I cannot think of many summer blockbusters of the past 20 years where I would be able to say all of that. And the central message about knowledge, how it's ignored, or distorted with tragic consequences, is extremely timely. It's not perfect, sure, and Alonso's point about the technology still working after all that time did stretch credibility, but for what could have been just a lazy cash-grab, this is a film with a lot on its mind and it has a lot of love for its characters.
What!? I'm not here for a Thunderdome-esque battle to the death between Christy and Alonso? What am I even doing here!?😝
You are free to go
@@roccocupido5082Easy there, tiger.
@@roccocupido5082 You've read that as an insult comment rather than a tongue in cheek remark. I'm going to explain because you may be someone who isn't able to see what the intent was behind the comment. Christy and Alonso have had different views on some recent film and not just slightly but very opposing (which is unusual for this channel). The commenter was making a joke regarding that, and his disappointment that we aren't getting a continuation of their combat.
I understand that Alonso is not a fan automatically if the film is not a near 100% Art House Play but I was disappointed that Christy was unimpressed as well. I loved this movie. I am disappointed that neither of you saw the strong value here. Thank you very much for the review.
Hmm, you must have missed our reviews of movies like Unfrosted, The Fall Guy and Dune 2, which Alonso enjoyed and are definitely not arthouse. Thanks for watching.
@@BreakfastAllDay I did not miss those. IMHO Alonso does a sidestep where he says "This Movie knows its stupid, so it gets a Pass". That is not the same as giving Mainstream Fair a thumbs up a decent amount of the time and not just writing it off at the gate. I am hoping Alonso abandons some of his Art House Bias now that RUclips is a big part of the platform. I have a Masters Degree and I really like Mainstream Fair. I dig your channel but I am hoping Alonso can be more open to Mainstream Content in the future - not just give it a pass for Self Awareness.
@@JScottGaribayHow long have you been watching Alonso?
@@waynedexter Just since he and Christy arrived on RUclips - I would say 6 months.
@@JScottGaribay He and Christy have been on RUclips for 14 years
Liked it, would see future instalments; wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was meant to be someone's original script idea, and the only way they could get it made if it was as a part of a franchise already owned by a studio.
I am going to see it. Can’t wait!
I didn’t know movies had to exist for a reason other than to entertain us 😂…
They don't HAVE to exist for other reasons but the good ones do exist for reasons more than just trying to entertain on a basic level. I mean, you could put the most basic movie out time and again but without people actually caring and trying to create something original to it, or with a different look, acting, sets or writing, whatever else, it won't ever be something people care about at all or remember. It's all just disposable entertainment. I think that's the difference. I haven't seen this film so I'm not giving an opinion on it but I do understand that coming at it from the lowest expectations of having things happen on a screen = entertaining is not going to mean something interesting, original or with writing that's good has been created. Doesn't have to be the best thing either but you should have some expectation that they are trying to create a memorable movie for you (on different levels).
Good movies can entertain AND do other things as well. There are also levels of entertainment quality. This was not a good movie lol
Everything is great in this movie - the CG and voice acting. But I agree, this movie is not offering anything new.
Initially, I thought it was Ron Perlman as the orangutan or Proximus, but it was Kevin Durand. Perfect!
I thought it was entertaining. I’m a huge fan of the 1968 film and the recent trilogy.
I liked the movie. TEAM HUMAN!
I loved this movie
I was thinking of this framchise wrt Star Wars. I like that they left Caesar's family and went past it to the mythology. The SW sequels was too tied to the Skywalker family for me.
seems okay, it's better to have some bit more into a summer film.
Good idea to tell the story a few generations ahead but it just wasn't that well executed. The human part of the story felt super tacked on. The visuals were great though. At least the story wasn't so unsatisfying that it disgraced the visuals. They'll definitely make another movie in this series and hopefully they'll write a story with some meaning behind it.
Just caught it. As you both point out, there are enough thrilling action sequences and production values to certainly entertain the popcorn crowd. But the story simply doesn't make much sense. What places Freya Allan's Mae in the vicinity of Noah and his clan in the first place? It turns out she's on a mission of her own but where the heck did she come from, given the end game here??? And how is that the item she's seeking would be at her targeted location? And what's with the virus that rendered humans silent/mute whatever, when a batch of free speakers turn up? That's just for starters. But as you say, the CGI is very impressive in conveying emotion and the scenic details are staggering. What's the motivation behind Proximus Caesar harnessing other apes while scooping up (and knocking off???) humans? Are they slaves to do what exactly? Beyond Kevin Durand's menacing, bestial, chilling scene-chewing rendition of 'What a wonderful day!" there ain't much else goin' on. I'll stop now to avoid spoilers but.....geez! Very considerate of the studios to trot out "classic brands" for the benefit of current generations, boasting superior special effects and production values but lacking the stark, jolting, emotional impact that came with the ending of Charlton Heston's 1968 opus.
Okay! 5.5 or 5.2. Who cares?
Why not keep it at .5 as smallest increment ?
Also: Sometimes it seems you guys want to come up with a different number merely for the sake of, that.
I still find you the very best reviewers on RUclips. My 9.0 your way remains unchanged 🙃
Ha, thanks for all of that!
@@BreakfastAllDay Always a pleasure 💯
I found the movie to be very entertaining. I saw the original movie with Charles Heston and saw the little things like the doll that said mamma.
Why does any movie exist? I don't understand this argument at all. All movies are for.... entertainment? Why does any sequel get made, because it makes money. Hollywood is a business lol.
I liked the movie but thought the first half didn’t have strong enough characters to sustain its slow burn story
I feel the way about the Matt Reeves apes movies the way you both feel about the Avatar movies I certainly did not find war of the planet of the apes operatic, but I am glad you both seem to enjoy them. To me, a more apt title would be bore of the planet of the apes haha
I had many micronaps and it was so weirdly boring. They don't have any establishing setup for the sudden weird assault and then it's so slow and boring for ages and even the third act couldn't save it for me. The finale. With the eagles is cool visually and all but there's like 80 of the apes and 1 of proximus. Just beat the shit out of him. The eagle thing is just stupid
3/10 for me . I loved the previous 3.
Such a great flick! Got the horrid taste of the Fall Guy BOREFEST out of my mouth. You guys need to find another job.
But we don’t know how to do anything else 🤷♀️
I feel like there were at least three or four emotional moments in this one that I did not think was earned at all. It's well directed, but these moments felt so forced on you. Proxima had great performance but he's a terrible villain compare to Koba. We don't really know anything about Proxima, and why he's revered as the leader of this huge ape colony. VFX was also lacking compare to War. Go watch the War trailer and you can see the visuals are way more realistic and sharp compare to this one. How did we go back in the VFX department when we should be 7 years ahead
a little over critical. Feel you totally missed the point of the film. Don't want to ruin it for others so can't go into more detail. But the movie felt like the first part of a trilogy. I can see far bigger stakes next film
You say the film doesn't have anything to offer, then start talking about the religious fundamentalist aspect to the story.
My only nitpick was marveling at how good Freya Allen's teeth looked. Good to know that dentists survived the apocalypse.
Y’all were too hard on this one! A bit underwritten but pretty solid everywhere else! 4/5
Apes actually can’t swim. I think it has something to do with their muscle to fat ratio. So this trilogy is officially on notice. Better not be any splishy splashy b.s. in the next two either
Good to know, thank you!
Apes don't swim, it is their fat tissue, it is the weight of the heads, all of that... Swimming is not something instinctual to them but why couldn't they be able to learn?? Are humans that different from them physically? Do professional swimmers have that much body fat? And there are rare examples of apes swimming
@@BreakfastAllDay It is what is believed to have brought about the speciation of the Bonobos w/ the formation of the Congo River isolating the two groups. W/ the common chimps on the north side being omnivores, warring, etc. generally more like us. While the Bonobos on the south are frugivores and most often characterized as more of the “make love (literally) not war” variety.
I had hoped that while Koba in the previous trilogy had been an interesting nature v nurture twist on that view, the series would continue to include their uniqueness in Ape dynamics which has been limited to Chimps/Orangutans/Gorillas.
BTW, have you seen the recent news of an Orangutan being observed to use a medicinal plant to treat a facial wound ?!? Wild !!
Although upon typing this & after just one viewing during which it hadn’t occurred to me, maybe that has played a part in the separation of the Eagle clan & Proxima’s group. And/or given the apparently smaller population of Bonobos they have been bred out of the population over successive generations. 🤷♂️
As for this film, to each their own I guess as I loved it. While War is a fine conclusion to that trilogy, for me it truly offered nothing new or unexpected except for the donkeys I suppose. Dawn though I thought was great, exploring a small window of diplomacy between the species & the hawks fulfilling their own prophecies. “Why do we need this” was asked when Rise came out & that series of films wasn’t a waste of time.
And further re differing tastes, I enjoyed this far more than the overly long 2 parter retelling of Dune which (visual quality aside) added very little w/ it’s extra time and actually subtracted quite a bit (so far). After P1 was 🤷♂️ I decided to reserve judgment until P2. The first 1/3rd-1/2 of which I was quite engaged by but by the end of P2 I found myself feeling much the same, maybe getting to Messiah / Children or the streaming series will justify it. But as for the current iteration so far I just don’t get what ppl were so engaged by. 🤷♂️ Particularly those that are already familiar w/ the narrative in its other forms beyond maybe being a vehicle to bring in new ppl to that fandom which is essentially no different than what you’re accusing this film of in my view.
W/ Noa gaining the knowledge he does in this (astronomical, technological, current & historical ape & human dynamics), I think the Apes series can still have interesting things to say, ideas & plot to mine in the many more than a 1000 years left in the timeline and am encouraged that the makers seem to have a sense of what direction they want to go.
So maybe this version will just end up a cash grab but I’m willing to go on the ride to find out based on what was presented in Kingdom (particularly the exploration of venerated words & legacy). In my view there more to chew on here than the threads that some of the original films hang 1h30m+ on (the original excepted of course).
So in the next movie humans from the past come to disrupt things in the apetastic future?😉 (Actually I do hope that.)
I might go see it, a standard screening only costs me 50¢ with my Regal Unlimited membership. Honestly though _Dune: Part Two_ ruined me for science fiction; it reset my expectations to a new high bar.
Hi Christy & Alonso, I loved the first three movies in this modern saga. Have little interest in a reboot and your comments hardly inspired me. Will wait till it streams. Thanks so much!
They killed off the most interesting, and visually the most realistic looking, character around halfway through. I found everything after that to be a slog.
Agree.
Spoiler: He’s not dead. There’s not an after credits scene but there is something at the end that suggests he’s alive. That’s all I’ll say.
@@SAM-up6ymI agree.
Come on, man. I get that you can say what you want but at least give the spoiler warning before you say it. It's a courtesy thing. Yes you didn't specifically give it away but let's be real, that comment gives it away to anyone with half a brain.
Is Noah Cesar’s son? Because in the last one the infant was given to the female to care for in the new world.
Doesn’t seem like it, this takes place several generations later. Thanks for watching!
It's three hundred years after caesar died
Wow did you guys really miss the ball. Did you sleep through it? This was an awesome movie with threads that apparently soared over your heads.
We were wide awake, just didn't enjoy it as much as you did. Thanks for taking the time to watch our review.
I disagree that this feels like it’s being made just to make more money, but I am concerned they are going to be retreading the same beats we already went over on the last trilogy. Let’s hope they have a different approach to it, I thought that was a really solid start…
Thank you.
If the Ape movies are not a commentary on racism and how marganized people are treated, why exist?
Part of the reason we watch movies is imagining ourselves in the movie and what would we do.
I rather look at humans. Sometimes just to look at someone hot.
I just saw it. The teaching is how we interpret teachings from the past. How we interpret leaders and how is it twisted today. Thats very relevent when it comes to religion and speeches from our leaders. It also criticizes human society. And isnt the change in hierarchy something to talk about.
Yes they want to make money. But it’s a great story. The audience loved it. I’d prefer a well made “sequel” than a lousy original movie.
Somebody needs to explain to me why "War" is hailed as some masterpiece. It's one of the dullest (and most dishonestly titled) big-budget movies ever put to screen. Caesar sits around dying in prison for 2 goddamn hours.
Go home. War is the best.
I hated it too! Sooo many plot holes, entire thing felt pointless, really enjoyed the first 2
Agreed. There was never a war and the movie was so slow. This was miles better.
theres barely a war in apocalypse now and its one of the best war films of all time, getting worked up over titles is a tad pedantic
@@serdic96 I mean I can agree a title is not really important but when the marketing and title are literally saying there will be a war, and there isn’t one, makes the film feel a little anticlimactic and not fulfilling.
Grumpy day.
Kind of a strange last remark. You didn’t like it not for the merit of the product, but that you didn’t think they should have done it to begin with.
For one, the movie itself, for what it is (a big budget CGI Planet of the Apes movie) was really well done. Story was solid (in a Save the Cat, the Heroes journey sort of way, it ticked off all the boxes) the production, sound and effects design were outstanding, and the “acting” was solid (inside all of that mo cap magic). The script and writing was well done. All-in-all it was a solidly entertaining IMAX experience.
But the reason “why this movie” is because the Caesar story ends with telling us how the world began. Now this will show us how the world plays out.
It’s exactly what they did back in the Charleston Heston days and thereafter and the TV shows.
So basically, this is what Hollywood does. And you as a movie critic is confused about this? Have you and moviemaking in Hollywood just met?
“They already had a Bond movie, I don’t see why they are doing another one.”
What a silly review take away.
After having watched the movie, I totally agree with Alonso. Nothing in this movie makes sense, but at lest it looks pretty.
At least the apes are cute lol
This was just ok. I did not like that Maye lied and proved the apes distrust of the humans right. Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire is still the best blockbuster of 2024!
I was expecting alot but this movie simply didn't deliver.I'm glad i could find a negative review about this movie because they are pretty rare.Compared to this Godzilla X Kong deserves an Oscar.
This trend of films as set-up for other films is getting pretty tedious.
So how many movies are we away from Charlton Heston showing up?
Sometimes all a movie has to do to justify its existence is be entertaining and have strong storytelling. There is nothing wrong with a 'cash grab" if it's a well-done cash grab.
Not every movie needs to have some DEEP MEANING or have something "profound" to say about something
As for the original franchise from the late 1960s and into the 1970s, I am a big fan of the original movie, which I think is a true science-fiction classic, but I didn't like any of its sequels, regardless of what they might have been about, or had to say.
As for the Andy Selkis trilogy, I am a big fan of the 1st and 3rd movies but didn't particularly like the 2nd one.
I have yet to see this new one.
Yeah, but this movie is definitely TRYING to be a bit more profound without doing all that much that isn't covered in the last 3 films.
As for whether apes can swim I know Oranatanges can't swim. I learned that from a documentary on
Oranatanges. But I don't know about the other species of Apes.
@@TomXIIX Oh no, they're cash grabs too!
@@thefilmseeker Whether or not it's trying to be profound, and if it's successful or original in that regard wasn't really my point. My point was more along the lines of is it entertaining with strong
storytelling, in its own right? I'm not really interested in how it compares to the other movies
As for the reason why this movie exists, here's 1 possible theory (given without having yet seen the new movie).Perhaps the reason is nothing more then trying to take the franchise in a new direction that fits better with the Charlton Heston original movie. As much as. I liked the original Heston movie, and the 1st and 3rd Selkis movies, the Selkis movies never really seems to have fit the
Heston original movie (for multiple reasons). I have always wondered how the humans of the Selkis movies became the humans of the Heston movie. I for one would be interested in gaining some insight into that, if a new franchise supplied some.
The T1000 from Terminator 2 was the first (early) motion capture CGI figure, not Jar Jar Binks.
HI Peter, please enjoy this recent article from our good friend Carlos Aguilar in The New York Times: www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/movies/jar-jar-binks-actor-star-wars-ahmed-best.html
@@BreakfastAllDay Sorry, unable to access it.
@@peterlenham3180 It's a long interview with Ahmed Best about how Jar Jar Binks was the first movie character created entirely through motion capture.
@@BreakfastAllDay Sorry to correct you, but Jar Jar wasnt the first CGI character. Steve Williams was an effects artist at ILM, the company that did the effects for Terminator 2, and he said that Robert Patrick was the first actor ever, to be used for very early motion capture. Williams wrote the code for the CGI, that made the T1000 possible. He also wrote the code for the effects in The Abyss, and Jurassic Park. These three films, especially Terminator 2, became instrumental in ushering in revolutionary CGI technology. Williams even has his own documentary that came out recently, called Jurassic Punk, which verifies everything Ive outlined. However, most of Terminator 2 had Robert Patrick playing the T1000 with no CGI used. Jar Jar was the first 100% CGI character, from the beginning to the end of a film, to use motion capture, so this might be what you meant.
@@peterlenham3180 While I haven’t seen Spaz’s doc, “sorry to correct you” but I think you’re confusing some of the terminology here.
As far as I recall, they FILMED Robert Patrick w/ reference lines marked on his body & used that to key frame animate the CGI T1000. Literally on top of the actor / as reference to animate & then composited that into the film (specifically for the scene of him walking through the fire).
That’s not the same as motion CAPTURE which records only the motion of the actor based on markers (the suits w/ the ping pong balls) as digital data to which they can then apply to a CGI character model. I believe the first time this was done in a film was in the Total Recall security scan scene where they mapped a skeletal figure to the motion capture markers.
For The Abyss water tentacle & T1000 facial animation they would digitally scan the actors static facial expressions & animate the transitions. This would not really be what we consider today as performance capture but is closer than the T1000 walking as it’s a direct digital capture.
While Jar Jar was definitely the first CGI character on which they used motion capture ultimately as far as I’m aware it was only one of a myriad of techniques they used as they were figuring out how to pull off the character for the film. All of the head & facial performance is key frame animated & the original plan was to do only that & use Ahmed Best’s body that was filmed on set.
Two Towers Gollum was the first time WETA was able to apply real time motion capture to a CGI character model on screen as it was being captured.
If big studios are going to continue inundating the public with these glorified cartoons masquerading as live-action productions, I'd rather have a three-hour Jar Jar Binks movie than another apestravaganza. Come to think of it, Jar Jar looked more tactile than any of these characters do.
How about just a general movie review without ruing the story for us who chose to watch your channel.
Awwwwww‼️do you even know WHAT a GENERAL movie review
Why don't you CHOOSE not to watch this channel ❓
When I saw a woman outrunning an ape in the trailer I laughed 😂
She's lean and wily!
Disney is creatively bankrupt. This will flop and so will Deadpool 3.
I really liked the last trilogy and had hopes maybe this would start a new one with an interesting and original story, it does not and that is a shame.
You need to do not another church movie review
This movie was Horrible. It really was disappointing.
Sounds like everything this is doing, Dune Part 2 did better
Oh yeah, for sure.
Because you're not great reviewers. Ghostbusters Afterlife was good and so was Free Guy.
Both were terrible, insulting movies made for half-wits.
If you want to prove that we should trust your taste in movies more, at least name some other movies..
Let's see you write anything longer than a youtube comment then smart guy. You have zero idea what it's like to cover media on a regular basis
@@fdsa6745You can critique critics you know?
ruclips.net/video/Lq594XmpPBg/видео.html I want to leave this here. If you're a gamer, a lot of this movie and the scenes they show is a lot of HFW. snooozeee.