If close to a blast site, and somehow still alive, rush to shelter and stay there for at least 48h. ~ 70% of all radioactive particles will decay after 24h. The SAS survival handbook of John Wiseman has a small chapter on this topic.
This is all quite accurate. I was a British Army NBC instructor during the 80s, which was a 3 day course within our unit. The emphasis then was all about chemical warfare, barely touched on Biological , and very vague about Nuclear war and how to survive . I think that the consensus was that West Germany would be wasted and we'd all be dead anyway. We all wore the dark green Mk2 NBC suits on exercise unless it rained, as chemical strikes wouldn't be viable when it rained, it was all very theoretical. We all washed our suits in the washing machine as the charcoal impregnation made everything black and it made them more comfy. Apparently there were Mk3 suits, which were apparently DPM pattern, kept in the stores for when the balloon went up.
Thanks for all the info. Normally the MK3 suit is the green one and the MK4 is the DPM one, they did MK4 suits in desert and woodland 95 pattern, I have two MK3 (one still sealed) and one MK4 in woodland. I guess washing the suits in the washing machine destroyed the chemical protection the charcoal offered. The Soviets had really uncomfortable thick rubber suits but they are actually a lot better for protection, basically it's like wearing heavy waterproofs but nothing can get through the suit. I've made an improvised CBRN suit now using fishing waders, chemical gloves and a raincoat, a lot more comfortable than the Soviet suits but it's totally waterproof which should make it function well.
Yes, you're right, it's been a long time, 30 years. During training we used an earlier version that was olive green and grey with a detachable hood, it quite flawed in design, guess that was the Mk2. There was a general issue booklet called Survive and Fight. There were also velcro patches that could determine different types of chemical agent.
Yeah I have an old survive to fight somewhere that came with an NBC suit. I quite like the MK3 and 4 suits for being comfortable (relatively) but it's a shame they expire, saying that they do have a water resistant coating on, so better than nothing.
I live in Doncaster which is pretty much next to an old RAF base, it’s an airport for civilians now but occasionally we have early warning radar aircraft landing here so it could be a target so I imagine it’s not safe. I’ve bought gas masks and I have a bag filled to the top with bottles of water and precious items I have but I doubt it will help much, but thanks a lot for making this.
Hey man just wondering where did you get the 'war emergency guide book' I'd love to buy one of those, although I hope that there isn't a nuclear war, I live in Kent and I looked up soviet nuclear strike targets and chatham, Rochester, Strood and gillingham were all targets so I'd be fucked because I live in one of those towns lol.
Weaponsandstuff93 i live in a six stoories flat in Corato, a little town 40 km away from an important italian city. I think it would witstand the blast wwave right? Another question: if someone lives one mile away from ground zero, is there a change of protecting himself from the heat and blast? Thanks
tizio scemo depends on what megaton bomb hit your city, with current technology probably not, with the shock wave and the 100mph winds from a firestorm would be bad. As for your other question, no. Most nuclear weapons vaporise everything in a 3km radius from a 1megaton bomb, and current bombs are much higher. If by some miracle you did survive you'd be quickly killed by the intense radiation which would cause mass cell death and radiation sickness would get you
I feel like the best way to "prepare for nuclear war" is to try to prevent it through mass organizing. Build up communities of people on any and all working class issues, which would then end up with the conclusion that nuclear war is to be avoided at all costs. The individual material prepping is the same as in this video, but instead of it being individuals or families and friends all fending for themselves, you have communities of survivors who understand that they have the common interest in cooperating. Humans have literally always survived better as a team, and the larger this "team" is, the more likely you're able to fend off the government or whatever. It could also always turn out that you do end up preventing a nuclear war if you do this mass organizing. I mean, if thousands of people march on the nearest nuclear missile silos and pull everyone in their out into the street, I think that might send a message to both sides.
The Gamma radiation only spreads out when the bomb first detonates, it's why people are blinded who look at the bombs, and yes underground bunkers are far safer than being above ground, assuming you have filtered air coming in.
In Switzerland here, although I don't know all the policies. First, because of cold war paranoia from our government, we have enough nuclear bunkers to house 115% of the population. Those bunkers vary in size. Like bunkers beneath hospitals are rated for stronger bombs from a closer distance. The normal bunkers in residential buildings are rated for a 12 megaton bomb from a distance of 750 meters. All bunkers have a filter system to filter out the radiation. After the bombs fall the ABC troops and civil protection would go from bunker to bunker to bring a lot of the population to either the ABC centers. Those are outside of the city's. Or they would bring them to the mountain fortresses. We got 5 of those. All stocked up but only one maned at the moment. The federal reserves (water, gas, food, oil, medical equipment and medicine, etc) would last for 2 to 3 months if they are rationed properly. Plus if you life near a nuclear reactor like Muhlenberg you have iod pills at home just for those situations. Plus we would get a warning 30 minutes in advance if the missiles are detected. We still test our air raid sirens yearly.
I guess the Swiss would survive the best in a nuclear apocalypse more than any other nation in Europe, you probably wouldn't even be directly targeted anyway.
while doing research on nukes, I discovered some interesting things to consider. The largest nuclear bomb ever dropped, the Tsar Bomba, actually had less fallout than a much smaller American bomb dropped in the same time frame for testing purposes. It seems the amount of fallout is determined by how the bomb is detonated. If detonated as an air burst there are very few radioactive particles created, the blast actually makes a pocket and never touches the ground. Mass damage from the shockwave to buildings and areas around it, but not so much to the ground. If dropped on the ground and detonated there is a massive amount of fallout created, due to the blast blowing dirt off the ground and irradiating the dust. This seems to be common knowledge, so I don't feel like I need to explain too much of it. What I found interesting however, is that the bit of radiation released by the Tsar Bomba went immediately into the atmosphere and was suspended there for quite awhile. It seemed to have little to no effect on anything. Similarly, if a nuke is dropped onto the ground most of it's particles are also suspended in the atmosphere for a long period of time, but they would probably spread out in a radius as well. Doing more research, I discovered that the consensus on the shelf life for radioactive fallout is roughly 2 weeks. After that the particles have fizzled out and are safe unless there's an ongoing leak of radiation in the area, such as a reactor that melted down. So here's what I'm wanting someone to consider: would it be possible that if the world went into full scale nuclear war, would radiation actually be an issue in any areas except right around where the bombs dropped? If the alpha particles were floating up in the atmosphere for long enough, is it possible that the radiation could die down before it even reaches earth? Obviously there would be localized pockets, and contaminated air streams, but for academics would not the majority of particulates be in a suspended state in the upper atmosphere?
That would assume every nuclear bomb would be airburst which would never be the case in a nuclear war, ground-bursting is useful against armoured targets such as bunkers, missile silos etc.
ah yeah, forgot about bunker busters. I was thinking in terms of maximal surface damage in that scenario. Also just stumbled onto strontium 80 and cesium 137. These two long term materials weren't mentioned in my previous research. Hopefully it's never something to worry about.
Man, never thought I'd ever find somone who's as knowledgeable about nuclear war and survival as much as myself, then I found this amazing channel! Keep up the good work!
What happens if you live in the suburban area of a major city, is there more of a chance of survival depending on how far I am from where most of the people are located (casinos, popular streets, etc.)?
If you are in a big city you might be riding the subway/tube and survive the blast. Which may have tunnels that lead to the suburbs where it might be safe enough to be on the surface for a little while heading out further to the countryside.
The issue is that nuclear bombs cause firestorms, at which point everyone suffocates even if they are in deep bunkers as all the oxygen is sucked into the blast.
Great channel i have a s6 and I was wondering if you could recommend a replacement filter that would would keep it current and in use as I notice you have a new style filter on your s6
So your advice in the event of a nuclear war is to, live in the middle of nowhere, be well armed, and not downwind of any possible missile target? My first thoughts were, can we get 65,000,000 people on the Isles of Scilly, and how will we fare during the predicted Nuclear Winter? I think that we have two choices, 1) Not to bother with a nuclear war at all, or, 2) Line the main runway of Brize Norton RAF Station, hold hands and sing, "We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when."
Most people dont realize the public do have a somewhat accurate tool they could use to detect radiation its an app called gamma pix lite it was funded by DARPA in the US so people could detect radiation id love to see a review of the app on your channel
I wish the War Emergency Guide Book was declassified. I could only find 2 other pages on the internet that even mentioned it's existence and the Wiltshire Council's website has no sign of it.
This is probably a stupid question, but how long after it falls to earth is the "fallout" radiation dangerous? Does it lose its potency over time? How long would it take?
maremacd depends, the nuclear catastrophe in Chernobyl has deemed it unsafe for about 20,000 years. If it was a world wide nuclear war, the human race would die out due to nuclear winter which would last about ten years, then a nuclear summer which would snowball because ice caps would melt (they hold a lot of methane a greenhouse gas much higher than CO2) and that would cause mass evaporation of the oceans (water vapour is also a greenhouse gas) and our planet would be like Venus. Hope that helps.
1:47 is it good enough If i live in a small pretty peacefull country , in the countryside at 2.5 km's from the nearest town which has only 10000 citesens and located at 80 km's from the nearest big city ?
Have you seen the movie “The Day After” since making this video? Chilling. It was an American movie from the 80’s, and the rumor is that it played a major role in Russia changing their foreign policy and stance on MAD.
For people who don't have a gas mask with canister-type filters, what ratings do you recommend for commercial/industrial filters (P100, P95)? What do you think of the commercial/industrial and inexpensive 3M half-piece respirators with the flat round filters?
+KevJYT Mentioned quite a few times that 3m masks are very good, the rectangular shape filter models are better as they can fit ABEK-P filters. As for masks P100 is preferable but I always go by the P3 rating, P3 being close to 100% particulate protection.
Are these the ones you are referring to? They seem to take both the round flat (and ridiculously bright pink) filters, as well semi-rectangular filters. Do they take ABEK-P/40mm filters as well? www.blyth.cz/4820-thickbox_default/3m-polomaska-7500.jpg www.flowtech.co.nz/ProcessImage/uploaded_images/Respiratory/7052.jpg hoanghaiminh.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/3m-20911.jpg
I live in a village around 50 miles away from a city and about 7-15 miles away from the nearest town with military training grounds near it. How fucked am I? Also should I use churches to stay in to protect myself against radiation? Why did you not talk about beta or gamma btw and how long do you think that would last? Thanks.
Because Alpha is the only radiation source that will be around after the bombs have gone off because it's what Fallout is, beta and gamma from what I've researched only happen as the bomb explodes.
Really? From my research if full nuclear war happened, gamma and beta would be around for two weeks. I might be looking at wrong sources. I am probably wrong but anyways, I am probably fucked aren't I in my location...
i live near sheffield where threads was based on and i watched it with a friend and he said after " i will have to ask my mum and dad what it was like" hahahahahah also you should release that council booklet on 4chan or something anon.
The closest city to me with anything important is Cardiff and that's 40 odd miles away. So somewhat safe ish unless its a Tsar bomba, any good relatively cheape Geiger counters you recommend?
The Soeks one I use in the video is pretty good, I was sent it for free but I think they retail around £120, acts as both a Geiger and Docimetre so you can see current radiation levels and accumulative dose, picks up alpha, beta and gamma radiation. If you want to get something retro, the old US civil defense Geiger counters with the alpha prove and speaker unit is really cool, sadly they seem to end up costing more than modern Geiger counters over here but sometimes on American eBay they sell for about $40 with reasonable shipping.
I was looking for something retro actually ahah because like you said they are really cool, I don't have £120 to throw away like that and plus to be fair to that Soeks one it may be good but it doesn't look £120s worth if you get me! Out of impulse I decided to buy a GP-4 gas mask tonight they looked so cool and it was cheap so I thought why not eh! But anyway I will check out the US Geiger counters. US shipping aint that bad anymore so I should be fine. Thank you.
Bear in mind the Soeks one is actually very cheap, most handheld Geigers of its type are around £150-300 normally, often with very primitive screens. Make sure if you get a CD-V counter you try and find one with the alpha probe, otherwise it's useless against alpha radiation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_V-700 There's a fairly decent wiki article on them.
Oh right, I have never looked much into Geiger counters although have always wanted one, there is a CD V 700 on ebay for $100 + $70 shipping so that would be £130, I am tempted to do that as it is functional and would make a good display. Thanks for the info!
how would you get a gas mask in a country were no one sells gas masks? I live in malta btw. I checked Amazon but there are only overpriced s10s and gp5's. Idk if ebay uk ships here. any suggestions? also are gp7 filters safe?
Go on eBay and look for sellers that ship worldwide, eBay should calculate the postage amount based on your location automatically. I'd recommend avoiding Soviet masks because of how expensive it will be to get filters, if Malta is bad for getting masks I would advise going the industrial mask route, that way you're not buying a gas mask but a work related respirator. Also, GP-7 filters are probably not safe, they were made in the same factories that made all the other asbestos filled filters.
I checked ebay (uk) and the shipping prices altogether are not TOO bad but since malta is a small country. is surrounded by sea (fallout) and is rising in popularity (hence terrorism) I would like to prep in about 7 years
Good video well said and ur right the uk would be divided into sections and i recommend going to kelvaden hatch in Essex its government bunker its a really interesting place I highly recommend it was de commissioned 1992 and Is still functional and is really interesting to see the government side of nuclear war. War game was very good film and threads best 2 nuclear films show the real nuclear war aftermath and tbh even if u survived the blast heat radiation be there for years. Protect and survive is interesting 70 was released in 80s to British public, program
Anything BUT the scott GSR. If you have the chance, get as modern a gas mask as you can. If it's a 60mm, only use the 40mm filters with the 60-40 adapter. If it's a 40mm, you're golden. Oh, and DON'T USE A CHEEK FILTER
So what level of reading on the geiger counter becomes unsafe? Background radiation seems to be around 0.08-0.12 in the UK atm. At what point would you say that reading is too high to stick around? By stick around I mean indefinitely without worrying about it.
You can always hide in the fridge ;) Also, you shouldn't ask "how to survive..." but rather "would you like to survive nuclear war". You know it will be times in which the living will only be able to envy the dead.
I see a problem with that dosimeter, it won't work after a bomb has gone off unless it's decently shielded, if you use something simpler like the DKP-50's you could be better off but only if the charger for them works after an exchange.
Supposedly taking the batteries out and wrapping it in foil should guard decently from an EMP, that was officially British military advice during the cold war for radio equipment.
Fair point yeah a Faraday cage would be an idea, forgot about that, my bad. Has anyone tested advice that from your knowledge? perhaps someone tested it before the ban. Did the MoD have radios wrapped in foil at the ready on bases?
@@CJ_the_Traveller I was thinking maybe a solar panel on it and a solar two way radio would be good.Making it portable is key in that situation because your not having to plug in to a non-existing electrical grid
I both liked and hated this video. Nuclear war is extremely terrifying. It is highly unlikely, but IF it happened, there’s nothing at all good about it. It’s not a matter of surviving it (because you really won’t), it’s about how long you survive after the initial attack. Radiation, civil unrest, government crackdown, starvation, radiation sickness, etc. in any case, you’re doomed.
I live in the Country side of western Canada. I think I would be safe because I live on an island with a population of like 759k and theres only a few airforce bases.
Not if you take the batteries out and put it in a shielded box, EMP effects were pretty overrated anyway, they mainly hit stuff plugged into an electrical network.
That's a very overrated mask, but in terms of Radioactive fallout, yes, but so would a simple dust mask that fit properly. The main issue with nuclear weapons is fallout where the gamma will irradiate you regardless of clothing, masks etc
Threads is a pretty good film, not seen The War Game, will check that out, i have a feeling where i am i'd be fucked, would defo have been fucked years ago as i live near RAF Daws Hill that has a nuclear bunker and was also a U.S air force base too, so may be very close to a direct hit - however that's all closed down now so who knows. If i had the grounds to make one i would defo build a fall out shelter though.
Yeah in some ways though I guess a direct hit is the fastest way to die in those scenarios, the real unlucky ones are the people who survive the blast but suffer from the radiation sickness, cancers, and burns from the blast and fallout, only to die within a few weeks anyway. I'd actually wonder how easy it would be to convert a basement into a survival bunker, obviously, it wouldn't be anywhere near as good as an actual bunker, but if a house had the correct foundations you'd probably have very good levels of protection.
You see, my family is lucky, we live in a forest about 20 miles away from a. small unimportant town, about 60 miles from anouther small city. We have gas masks guns canned food and some clothes good enough to stop radiation... tho you never know
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If close to a blast site, and somehow still alive, rush to shelter and stay there for at least 48h.
~ 70% of all radioactive particles will decay after 24h.
The SAS survival handbook of John Wiseman has a small chapter on this topic.
I actually think I had that book
Depends what bomb it was.
Big cities often have underground bunkers disguised as railway systems!
This is all quite accurate. I was a British Army NBC instructor during the 80s, which was a 3 day course within our unit. The emphasis then was all about chemical warfare, barely touched on Biological , and very vague about Nuclear war and how to survive . I think that the consensus was that West Germany would be wasted and we'd all be dead anyway. We all wore the dark green Mk2 NBC suits on exercise unless it rained, as chemical strikes wouldn't be viable when it rained, it was all very theoretical. We all washed our suits in the washing machine as the charcoal impregnation made everything black and it made them more comfy. Apparently there were Mk3 suits, which were apparently DPM pattern, kept in the stores for when the balloon went up.
Thanks for all the info.
Normally the MK3 suit is the green one and the MK4 is the DPM one, they did MK4 suits in desert and woodland 95 pattern, I have two MK3 (one still sealed) and one MK4 in woodland.
I guess washing the suits in the washing machine destroyed the chemical protection the charcoal offered.
The Soviets had really uncomfortable thick rubber suits but they are actually a lot better for protection, basically it's like wearing heavy waterproofs but nothing can get through the suit.
I've made an improvised CBRN suit now using fishing waders, chemical gloves and a raincoat, a lot more comfortable than the Soviet suits but it's totally waterproof which should make it function well.
Yes, you're right, it's been a long time, 30 years. During training we used an earlier version that was olive green and grey with a detachable hood, it quite flawed in design, guess that was the Mk2. There was a general issue booklet called Survive and Fight. There were also velcro patches that could determine different types of chemical agent.
Yeah I have an old survive to fight somewhere that came with an NBC suit.
I quite like the MK3 and 4 suits for being comfortable (relatively) but it's a shame they expire, saying that they do have a water resistant coating on, so better than nothing.
That's a gas mask I've never seen before, looks like a mix between snorkeling goggles and a gas mask 😂
It's cool looking tho
Kyle Gould what Cold War?
If I remember correctly it was America that had a cold war
Cold War was NATO vs Warsaw Pact, UK was part of NATO
It’s a Avon 6 I think it’s called
Fun fact: you can actually taste radiation, if it’s a lethal dose, you can taste metal.
You're not tasting the radiation, tasting metal is from your gums bleeding.
Weaponsandstuff93 ahhhh, thank you for the science behind the metal taste
Just like HBO Chernobyl
Vasyli do you taste metal? Yeah what is that?
Thats just ionizing radiation
It's actually the taste of your brain's taste sensory being damaged
This was extremely informative & helpful. Thank you! Excellent video!
Cheers.
"There's no fighting in the war room " 😂😂
"We cannot allow a mineshaft gap!"
I only live 20 minutes from Springfield IL. I am in the middle of nowhere.
Pretty safe then.
What if they miss Chicago
lol same, btw... Truce?
@Kyle Andry I am in Chicago lmao
I live in Doncaster which is pretty much next to an old RAF base, it’s an airport for civilians now but occasionally we have early warning radar aircraft landing here so it could be a target so I imagine it’s not safe. I’ve bought gas masks and I have a bag filled to the top with bottles of water and precious items I have but I doubt it will help much, but thanks a lot for making this.
In Threads RAF Doncaster is the first nuke seen in the film when the Soviets hit it.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 Comforting for the man lol
@@Weaponsandstuff93 🤣lovely little bit of info lol
You definitely deserve the 17k subs good work
Cheers.
Seems like a good time to revisit this video
How to Survive Nuclear War just hide be hind Chuck Norris.
more like tell Chuck Norris that some idiots trying to cause a nuclear war
chuck norris memes died a really long time ago
@@chebu... no nothing about chuck noris ever dies
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No Stalin
Hey man just wondering where did you get the 'war emergency guide book' I'd love to buy one of those, although I hope that there isn't a nuclear war, I live in Kent and I looked up soviet nuclear strike targets and chatham, Rochester, Strood and gillingham were all targets so I'd be fucked because I live in one of those towns lol.
I got it off of a family member of someone in the local emergency planning department, no idea if you could even legally buy them.
Weaponsandstuff93 i live in a six stoories flat in Corato, a little town 40 km away from an important italian city. I think it would witstand the blast wwave right?
Another question: if someone lives one mile away from ground zero, is there a change of protecting himself from the heat and blast? Thanks
tizio scemo depends on what megaton bomb hit your city, with current technology probably not, with the shock wave and the 100mph winds from a firestorm would be bad. As for your other question, no. Most nuclear weapons vaporise everything in a 3km radius from a 1megaton bomb, and current bombs are much higher. If by some miracle you did survive you'd be quickly killed by the intense radiation which would cause mass cell death and radiation sickness would get you
That Guy Thanks. What would kill me in that scenario is not the fallout but most likely the initial radiation.
Weaponsandstuff93 I don't suppose you could do a video covering some interesting points in that doc? At least stuff you feel safe revealing?
I feel like the best way to "prepare for nuclear war" is to try to prevent it through mass organizing. Build up communities of people on any and all working class issues, which would then end up with the conclusion that nuclear war is to be avoided at all costs. The individual material prepping is the same as in this video, but instead of it being individuals or families and friends all fending for themselves, you have communities of survivors who understand that they have the common interest in cooperating. Humans have literally always survived better as a team, and the larger this "team" is, the more likely you're able to fend off the government or whatever. It could also always turn out that you do end up preventing a nuclear war if you do this mass organizing. I mean, if thousands of people march on the nearest nuclear missile silos and pull everyone in their out into the street, I think that might send a message to both sides.
Yes totally correct, once they launch game over.
So how much time does gamma radiation stay on the surface?
And also, if I made a underground bunker would that be safe?
And also nice video!
The Gamma radiation only spreads out when the bomb first detonates, it's why people are blinded who look at the bombs, and yes underground bunkers are far safer than being above ground, assuming you have filtered air coming in.
In Switzerland here, although I don't know all the policies. First, because of cold war paranoia from our government, we have enough nuclear bunkers to house 115% of the population. Those bunkers vary in size. Like bunkers beneath hospitals are rated for stronger bombs from a closer distance. The normal bunkers in residential buildings are rated for a 12 megaton bomb from a distance of 750 meters. All bunkers have a filter system to filter out the radiation. After the bombs fall the ABC troops and civil protection would go from bunker to bunker to bring a lot of the population to either the ABC centers. Those are outside of the city's. Or they would bring them to the mountain fortresses. We got 5 of those. All stocked up but only one maned at the moment. The federal reserves (water, gas, food, oil, medical equipment and medicine, etc) would last for 2 to 3 months if they are rationed properly. Plus if you life near a nuclear reactor like Muhlenberg you have iod pills at home just for those situations. Plus we would get a warning 30 minutes in advance if the missiles are detected. We still test our air raid sirens yearly.
I guess the Swiss would survive the best in a nuclear apocalypse more than any other nation in Europe, you probably wouldn't even be directly targeted anyway.
Weaponsandstuff93 even if we were directly targeted, I don't think they would use large hydrogen bombs. Only smaller tactical bombs.
while doing research on nukes, I discovered some interesting things to consider. The largest nuclear bomb ever dropped, the Tsar Bomba, actually had less fallout than a much smaller American bomb dropped in the same time frame for testing purposes. It seems the amount of fallout is determined by how the bomb is detonated. If detonated as an air burst there are very few radioactive particles created, the blast actually makes a pocket and never touches the ground. Mass damage from the shockwave to buildings and areas around it, but not so much to the ground. If dropped on the ground and detonated there is a massive amount of fallout created, due to the blast blowing dirt off the ground and irradiating the dust. This seems to be common knowledge, so I don't feel like I need to explain too much of it. What I found interesting however, is that the bit of radiation released by the Tsar Bomba went immediately into the atmosphere and was suspended there for quite awhile. It seemed to have little to no effect on anything. Similarly, if a nuke is dropped onto the ground most of it's particles are also suspended in the atmosphere for a long period of time, but they would probably spread out in a radius as well. Doing more research, I discovered that the consensus on the shelf life for radioactive fallout is roughly 2 weeks. After that the particles have fizzled out and are safe unless there's an ongoing leak of radiation in the area, such as a reactor that melted down. So here's what I'm wanting someone to consider: would it be possible that if the world went into full scale nuclear war, would radiation actually be an issue in any areas except right around where the bombs dropped? If the alpha particles were floating up in the atmosphere for long enough, is it possible that the radiation could die down before it even reaches earth? Obviously there would be localized pockets, and contaminated air streams, but for academics would not the majority of particulates be in a suspended state in the upper atmosphere?
That would assume every nuclear bomb would be airburst which would never be the case in a nuclear war, ground-bursting is useful against armoured targets such as bunkers, missile silos etc.
ah yeah, forgot about bunker busters. I was thinking in terms of maximal surface damage in that scenario. Also just stumbled onto strontium 80 and cesium 137. These two long term materials weren't mentioned in my previous research. Hopefully it's never something to worry about.
Ground bursts kicks up far more dirt and dust wich would become radiocative.
My dad was a soldier in the height of the Cold War so I’m pretty much covered
What do you mean by covered
@@nomm6564 He probably has a bit of knowlage on what to do in this senerio.
Man, never thought I'd ever find somone who's as knowledgeable about nuclear war and survival as much as myself, then I found this amazing channel! Keep up the good work!
Cheers.
A lot of people make there videos 10 minutes with filler but your videos are really informative.
Thanks, I just let the videos run to a natural length.
2:40 liked video when he said “total extermination of North Korea”
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Great video Liam as always 👍
Cheers
Knowledge is power especially now more than ever. Thank you for the information, sir.
Don't forget When the Wind Blows.
Norman Friedman>? Gordon Freeman? Half-Life 3 confirmed!
Good video man , I've seen Threads , very grim film , not seen the other "War games" though
It's worth watching but Threads is mostly a remake of it.
Weaponsandstuff93 I cannot seam to find , "War game" anywhere
davidboi277 google ' the war game 1965 watch online ' click a few websites one of them worked for me, it's very surreal though
What happens if you live in the suburban area of a major city, is there more of a chance of survival depending on how far I am from where most of the people are located (casinos, popular streets, etc.)?
Totally depends on the distance from the blast and power of the bomb being dropped.
If you are in a big city you might be riding the subway/tube and survive the blast. Which may have tunnels that lead to the suburbs where it might be safe enough to be on the surface for a little while heading out further to the countryside.
The issue is that nuclear bombs cause firestorms, at which point everyone suffocates even if they are in deep bunkers as all the oxygen is sucked into the blast.
I live near the capital of Texas
Eclipse i live in Texas
Same but were f***** 😓
I live 20 miles from dallas metropolitan area or more
@Chimp You're fucked with a capital F!
watching this today because it’s probably time. Tensions are high.
I doubt it unless there are major escalation
Great channel i have a s6 and I was wondering if you could recommend a replacement filter that would would keep it current and in use as I notice you have a new style filter on your s6
So your advice in the event of a nuclear war is to, live in the middle of nowhere, be well armed, and not downwind of any possible missile target? My first thoughts were, can we get 65,000,000 people on the Isles of Scilly, and how will we fare during the predicted Nuclear Winter?
I think that we have two choices,
1) Not to bother with a nuclear war at all, or,
2) Line the main runway of Brize Norton RAF Station, hold hands and sing, "We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when."
Where do you live?
I grew up watching Threads and The Day After, You already know. :)
Yup great films but hard to watch for a lot of people.
Life and death is bought down to knowledge that you give and own. Fank u brother for your input... what's your milatry back ground?
The Day After was interesting too.
In the uk you can get crossbows. Maybe you could defend yourself with them as many people overlook them and get knives instead.
The National Guard Training Center, US Army Reserve and US Army Reserve Center is all near me. I'm dead it there is a nuclear war I guess.
It would be very quick.
Most people dont realize the public do have a somewhat accurate tool they could use to detect radiation its an app called gamma pix lite it was funded by DARPA in the US so people could detect radiation id love to see a review of the app on your channel
I'll give it a try, if it works with my phone I can compare it to an actual geiger counter.
I wish the War Emergency Guide Book was declassified. I could only find 2 other pages on the internet that even mentioned it's existence and the Wiltshire Council's website has no sign of it.
I ended up doing a video on it for my patrons on vidme, and then vidme went bust.
that fallout sound effect haha. nice
It's from the British "Protect and Survive" videos from the 80's. Was to be released in the case of nuclear war being imminent.
If you haven't already I'd recommend a copy of "Fight to Survive", all you need to know about your Respirator, kit and drills.
Really informative. Good work mate.
Cheers.
Nicely done.
Thanks.
This is probably a stupid question, but how long after it falls to earth is the "fallout" radiation dangerous? Does it lose its potency over time? How long would it take?
Supposedly the worst of it is over in two weeks, that being said disturbing the dust after that time is a bad idea.
maremacd depends, the nuclear catastrophe in Chernobyl has deemed it unsafe for about 20,000 years. If it was a world wide nuclear war, the human race would die out due to nuclear winter which would last about ten years, then a nuclear summer which would snowball because ice caps would melt (they hold a lot of methane a greenhouse gas much higher than CO2) and that would cause mass evaporation of the oceans (water vapour is also a greenhouse gas) and our planet would be like Venus. Hope that helps.
That Guy HaHa. Yeah that helps. I'm cashing out my retirement tomorrow.
1:47 is it good enough If i live in a small pretty peacefull country , in the countryside at 2.5 km's from the nearest town which has only 10000 citesens and located at 80 km's from the nearest big city ?
You'd probably not get nuked then
Have you seen the movie “The Day After” since making this video? Chilling. It was an American movie from the 80’s, and the rumor is that it played a major role in Russia changing their foreign policy and stance on MAD.
And the movie was mild in reality. Scared me as a kid watching it.
Crawl out from the fallout back to meeeeeeee
Crawl out to the fallout baby when they drop that bomb
For people who don't have a gas mask with canister-type filters, what ratings do you recommend for commercial/industrial filters (P100, P95)? What do you think of the commercial/industrial and inexpensive 3M half-piece respirators with the flat round filters?
+KevJYT Mentioned quite a few times that 3m masks are very good, the rectangular shape filter models are better as they can fit ABEK-P filters. As for masks P100 is preferable but I always go by the P3 rating, P3 being close to 100% particulate protection.
Are these the ones you are referring to?
They seem to take both the round flat (and ridiculously bright pink) filters, as well semi-rectangular filters. Do they take ABEK-P/40mm filters as well?
www.blyth.cz/4820-thickbox_default/3m-polomaska-7500.jpg
www.flowtech.co.nz/ProcessImage/uploaded_images/Respiratory/7052.jpg
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Nice vid. Sorry im late.
No problem.
Threads is a horrific movie.
Worth watching though.
also its worth noting there are still targets in the countryside, miltary, industry, dams, etc.
Yes but less of them, hence why I said don't live close to industry or military bases.
I live in a village around 50 miles away from a city and about 7-15 miles away from the nearest town with military training grounds near it. How fucked am I? Also should I use churches to stay in to protect myself against radiation? Why did you not talk about beta or gamma btw and how long do you think that would last? Thanks.
Because Alpha is the only radiation source that will be around after the bombs have gone off because it's what Fallout is, beta and gamma from what I've researched only happen as the bomb explodes.
Really? From my research if full nuclear war happened, gamma and beta would be around for two weeks. I might be looking at wrong sources. I am probably wrong but anyways, I am probably fucked aren't I in my location...
i live near sheffield where threads was based on and i watched it with a friend and he said after " i will have to ask my mum and dad what it was like" hahahahahah
also you should release that council booklet on 4chan or something anon.
Threads is a cracking film
Other Title: how to go in the bathroom when dad just got out
Not every country in Europe has strict gun laws. Such as the Czech Republic, Austria and Norway...
Strict gun laws or not, there is always black market. The more desperate ppl become more and more weapons will be to our desposal.
Would Reno be a high priority target?
Saw threads and was horrified.
The closest city to me with anything important is Cardiff and that's 40 odd miles away. So somewhat safe ish unless its a Tsar bomba, any good relatively cheape Geiger counters you recommend?
The Soeks one I use in the video is pretty good, I was sent it for free but I think they retail around £120, acts as both a Geiger and Docimetre so you can see current radiation levels and accumulative dose, picks up alpha, beta and gamma radiation.
If you want to get something retro, the old US civil defense Geiger counters with the alpha prove and speaker unit is really cool, sadly they seem to end up costing more than modern Geiger counters over here but sometimes on American eBay they sell for about $40 with reasonable shipping.
I was looking for something retro actually ahah because like you said they are really cool, I don't have £120 to throw away like that and plus to be fair to that Soeks one it may be good but it doesn't look £120s worth if you get me! Out of impulse I decided to buy a GP-4 gas mask tonight they looked so cool and it was cheap so I thought why not eh! But anyway I will check out the US Geiger counters. US shipping aint that bad anymore so I should be fine. Thank you.
Bear in mind the Soeks one is actually very cheap, most handheld Geigers of its type are around £150-300 normally, often with very primitive screens.
Make sure if you get a CD-V counter you try and find one with the alpha probe, otherwise it's useless against alpha radiation.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_V-700
There's a fairly decent wiki article on them.
Oh right, I have never looked much into Geiger counters although have always wanted one, there is a CD V 700 on ebay for $100 + $70 shipping so that would be £130, I am tempted to do that as it is functional and would make a good display. Thanks for the info!
how would you get a gas mask in a country were no one sells gas masks? I live in malta btw. I checked Amazon but there are only overpriced s10s and gp5's. Idk if ebay uk ships here. any suggestions? also are gp7 filters safe?
Go on eBay and look for sellers that ship worldwide, eBay should calculate the postage amount based on your location automatically.
I'd recommend avoiding Soviet masks because of how expensive it will be to get filters, if Malta is bad for getting masks I would advise going the industrial mask route, that way you're not buying a gas mask but a work related respirator.
Also, GP-7 filters are probably not safe, they were made in the same factories that made all the other asbestos filled filters.
I checked ebay (uk) and the shipping prices altogether are not TOO bad but since malta is a small country. is surrounded by sea (fallout) and is rising in popularity (hence terrorism) I would like to prep in about 7 years
So I live in a small city I doubt it would be struck directly but there a few major targets nearby
Would a gp5 work against radiation if you have a 40mm gost filter
Against alpha particles yes
Weaponsandstuff93 what do you think about depression glass that they use uranium to colour it?
I have a video with fiesta-ware which is a similar thing.
Yup, this sounds like fallout.
Good video well said and ur right the uk would be divided into sections and i recommend going to kelvaden hatch in Essex its government bunker its a really interesting place I highly recommend it was de commissioned 1992 and Is still functional and is really interesting to see the government side of nuclear war. War game was very good film and threads best 2 nuclear films show the real nuclear war aftermath and tbh even if u survived the blast heat radiation be there for years. Protect and survive is interesting 70 was released in 80s to British public, program
So what is a good modern gas mask/filter for cbnr or nbc purposes to used in conjunction with a cbnr or nbc suit
I've done videos on that, really any NATO mask with a 40mm filter port.
Anything BUT the scott GSR. If you have the chance, get as modern a gas mask as you can. If it's a 60mm, only use the 40mm filters with the 60-40 adapter. If it's a 40mm, you're golden. Oh, and DON'T USE A CHEEK FILTER
@@samuelyoung1 Why not cheek filter?
So you can use a old Soviet filter for particle protection?
Yes but you may inhale asbestos particles.
Good video
Cheers.
So what level of reading on the geiger counter becomes unsafe? Background radiation seems to be around 0.08-0.12 in the UK atm. At what point would you say that reading is too high to stick around? By stick around I mean indefinitely without worrying about it.
If you look up what safe levels are for nuclear power plant workers, probably around that.
You can always hide in the fridge ;)
Also, you shouldn't ask "how to survive..." but rather "would you like to survive nuclear war". You know it will be times in which the living will only be able to envy the dead.
Unless you live in an area so remote you don't even realise anything has happened.
I see a problem with that dosimeter, it won't work after a bomb has gone off unless it's decently shielded, if you use something simpler like the DKP-50's you could be better off but only if the charger for them works after an exchange.
Supposedly taking the batteries out and wrapping it in foil should guard decently from an EMP, that was officially British military advice during the cold war for radio equipment.
Fair point yeah a Faraday cage would be an idea, forgot about that, my bad. Has anyone tested advice that from your knowledge? perhaps someone tested it before the ban.
Did the MoD have radios wrapped in foil at the ready on bases?
@@CJ_the_Traveller I was thinking maybe a solar panel on it and a solar two way radio would be good.Making it portable is key in that situation because your not having to plug in to a non-existing electrical grid
where did you get the emergency war guide from
cool video
Thanks.
In the middle of nowhere near no big targets... ok kids we are moving to alaska
Futuristic
That was interesting 👍
Thanks.
I both liked and hated this video. Nuclear war is extremely terrifying. It is highly unlikely, but IF it happened, there’s nothing at all good about it. It’s not a matter of surviving it (because you really won’t), it’s about how long you survive after the initial attack. Radiation, civil unrest, government crackdown, starvation, radiation sickness, etc. in any case, you’re doomed.
Yeah basically Threads
How do u think Arizona would do? Should I get ready
Weaponsandstuff93 i live in San Pablo CA.is that safe
Weaponsandstuff93 doesn't Arizona have a crap ton of military bases
NA ME yes but a lot are in the middle of nowhere
Maybe🔥🔥
how far are you from a military base or major city (i.e. Phoenix or Scottsville)
I live somewhere in Glenfield near Bayview.
Am I going to die? Or survive?Because I'm in new zealand.
I think you'll be om
Ok*
Well weaponsandstuff93 I'm currently a student in sitka Alaska and how screwed or safe am i?
I doubt there are all that many ICBM targets in Alaska but I've not actually looked it up.
I live 1 hour outside belfast by the sea side lol
Is there a benefit of having NPC filters compared to particulate filters after nuclear blasts?
Not much, the charcoal in the filter can come in handy though if anything gets destroyed in the blast and blown around such as chemical spills etc.
you don't really want to survive nuclear war
How far we have to be for the radiation to not affect as bad
What's the best mask for nuclear warfare because I've only got a gp5 now I'm scared
Nuclear war is pretty low risk compared to Corona atm, I'd advise just getting a decent dust respirator really.
Hey just saying thanks for telling about that it's just I worry I bit too much but yet again thanks and I love the videos.
I live in queens. Manhattan will probably be obliterated but I'm not so sure my borough would be as lucky.
Would USA Florida be a good target?
Florida would be a pretty big target to a superpower but not NK.
I'm in NYC, I'm done for.
Would a m40 chem hood work against the the dust?
Yes but you obviously need the mask and filter to not inhale it.
.... a bit of light relief from the COVID 19 vids.
Yup
I live in the Country side of western Canada. I think I would be safe because I live on an island with a population of like 759k and theres only a few airforce bases.
Well…i think im pretty prepare for this situation ,except for the weapons in that aspect im screw…
wont the dosimeter stop working due to the EMP?
Not if you take the batteries out and put it in a shielded box, EMP effects were pretty overrated anyway, they mainly hit stuff plugged into an electrical network.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 Excellent point made
Would a 400/3 bb protect u from all the chemicals in such from a nuclear bomb
That's a very overrated mask, but in terms of Radioactive fallout, yes, but so would a simple dust mask that fit properly. The main issue with nuclear weapons is fallout where the gamma will irradiate you regardless of clothing, masks etc
Hey are there any bomb shelters in Florida?
Google it.
Places designed to withstand a hurricane may be a good idea.
Its flordia so no
Jason i have know i dea😞
Is there a shelf life for an unpackeged NBC filter?
Normally 10-20 years.
Check out the day after made 1984
Threads is a pretty good film, not seen The War Game, will check that out, i have a feeling where i am i'd be fucked, would defo have been fucked years ago as i live near RAF Daws Hill that has a nuclear bunker and was also a U.S air force base too, so may be very close to a direct hit - however that's all closed down now so who knows.
If i had the grounds to make one i would defo build a fall out shelter though.
Yeah in some ways though I guess a direct hit is the fastest way to die in those scenarios, the real unlucky ones are the people who survive the blast but suffer from the radiation sickness, cancers, and burns from the blast and fallout, only to die within a few weeks anyway.
I'd actually wonder how easy it would be to convert a basement into a survival bunker, obviously, it wouldn't be anywhere near as good as an actual bunker, but if a house had the correct foundations you'd probably have very good levels of protection.
I live in Newport ky right across the river from Cincinnati. :(
It will be quick...
i live 15 miles away from a air force base
You see, my family is lucky, we live in a forest about 20 miles away from a. small unimportant town, about 60 miles from anouther small city. We have gas masks guns canned food and some clothes good enough to stop radiation... tho you never know
Very nice