The Future of 2D Animation
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2016
- In a modern world where everything is now digital, what does this mean for the future of 2D animation? This video essay discusses the differences between 2D to 3D animation and examines the widely debated question, "is traditional animation a dying art form?"
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Grand Valley State University 2016 
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In Japan, 2D animation is still dominating over 3D animation by far
That’s because they haven’t mastered story telling in 3-D yet, or at least, they didn’t have their Toy Story
HOwever they are underpaid
I am going into 2D animation as a career, and I will strive to make it, even if I have to start a studio myself. In college, it seems difficult to find classes that offer the necessary knowledge and skills to produce it. 3D animation is wonderful; truly, it is a technological marvel, and is superior in terms of consistency and realism. However, the beauty of 2D is that it is malleable and fluid, and I will take it over 3D any day. The problem is, there needs to be a platform for new shows and movies, either through traditional television or some online medium. Too many execs that don't want to take risks.
zakkwylde89 boi if ur wanna make a studio in in 😂
zakkwylde89 That sounds like a good idea...
alright I'm in.
zakkwylde89 I’m in
Perfectly said; good luck with your 2D animation career.
I love both hand-drawn and computer generated animations.
The Incredibles and Up successed because they both had very good stories/plot.
Princess and the frog was good too, there were other factors involved. Because it still has a good spot on Disney's line up
The Disney Princess formula was getting stale too. There were fresh alternatives releasing at similar times.
I say 2D animation ages better than 3D animation; even when it's top notch, 3D animation looks stiffer after a few years. Top notch 2D animation still looks fluid for decades to come.
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No art can escape the confines of its time.
@@Jugem16 Okay, then explain how something like movies from the Disney Renaissance still hold up their beauty and Toy Story is already considered suuuuper dated in terms of animation?
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It is just the truth, nothing can be timeless, because the context changes.
That's only because 3D animation was newer. After a long enough time, both art forms will be equally perfected.
@@Jugem16 old 3D has less complex rigs and even models. They simply moved less. They would compensate with these quick flailing movements to get the expression across but these days they can be more subtle.
2D is dead for feature films only in North America. It is still used elsewhere in the world, such as Europe, UK and Japan. It is also used in North America for TV series, commercials, some games, and online.
This is because the industry in North America is ruled by Disney. Where it goes, the others follow.
Oh they’re still being made here you just have to look somewhere
Peppa pig 😂 a chunk of the shares were sold for 140 million! Its definately not a dying artform for kids - studios just chose to shift to 3d
You do know that there are way smaller, not well known studios that still make movies in 2D, right? Just because the big boys of animation have switched over doesn’t mean that every last trace of 2D animation has been killed off in studios that do movies and not just TV shows or commercials. 3D is probably less popular around the world because many other studios probably don’t have the budget for that and it’s hard to switch over and train your animators in a completely new program and with completely new things and features - especially since the animation standard has gone up tremendously, even in just the last 10 years. North America is the leader of 3D animation because that’s was it was made and used more which is why you’ll see it here more than anywhere else. Besides, not sure how anime characters would look in 3D unless they all looked like Peni Parker lmao.
Yeah
Shit! 2d Hand drawn animation is my favourite type of animation! Hopefully they will consider releasing hand drawn animated movies back in cinemas and hopefully it’ll still be around! I don’t want it to die! Nothing wrong with 3D animation but I just really love the 2D animation style
You make the mistake of equating CGI to 3D animation. In reality, you can have CG 2D animation.
Ender I agree with your comment, but I think she was more speaking about the way that now there is no longer 2D (with CG) and only 3D (Just CG.) I think it was largely that and the visual difference. CG used to be used in enhancements and in a way that would still look similar to the 2D.
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She's not you.
I think that Disney forgot that reason that up was more successful was because of its solid story Princess and the Frog with a nice story and all but it wasn't as good as up
Luner Animator the animation was good but the story wasn't great it was OK I think they got confused bout why it wasn't going well
Up was better imo, but princess and the frog had a better villain imo, the villain being the most memorable part of princess and the frog and the Grumpiness of an old man being the most memorable part of up.
StoneTitan He sold his soul to the shadow realm. That old man being with Lottie when his disguise was almost revealed was pretty wierd but good.
I enjoyed the first act of the princess and the frog before the frog prince appeared. I loved the world it set up and how well it depicted that time period and the society that existed during that time. I also very much enjoyed the voodoo magic of both the villain and another character in the film. their designed were varied and fun. But when in the swamp i was not very invested in the film, though i recognize the contributions that section had that added to the film.
Honestly just on the premise, Up seems more contemporary than The Princes and the Frog, to the context of the early to mid-late XX century it makes a lot of sense, as the princess story is, in general, about archiving a personal goal by bringing everything back to normal, and usually the conclusion of the story explicitly involves acquiring a better condition of material consumption capability (becoming a princess), versus Up, which is a story about coming in terms with death by having an fulfilling a dream. It probably is to be noted that at the end of Up they do also archive the goal of the princess story, but it is presented as a lateral reward.
Also the setting in Up is much more modern.
2D animation has a certain aesthetic that can never be emulated by 3D animation. Which is why it has a special place in my heart
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It is the same in the exact opposite for me.
It can it just takes way too much time.
@@IkeOkerekeNews For me, it would be both. 3D animation has a magic 2D can't capture, and 2D has a magic 3D can't capture.
KLAUS. That is all.
And Green Eggs and Ham (a show, but beautifully animated show)
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"Box office numbers were SLIGHTLY better" ?!
up made 500 million dollars more then the princess and the frog!
There are still both great movies. So whats your problem?
really nice video
It's dying. At least for big films and productions it is.
nvm I take it back its dead. Hasn't been a 2d film in years.
Lmao that made me laugh for a good 5 minutes.
disneyphilip yes it is
When I make my first animated short film, I will mix stop motion with elements of hand drawn animation and CGI to create a unique looking world and characters as a least places like Japan and Ireland do hand drawn animation still.
2D will always be a strong viable medium. The main reason why; is because its ART, just as people will always want paintings and live music played with Instruments.. Just ask any kid who enjoys NETFLIX cartoons. Tell a child that CARTOONS are dead and watch the look on there face. TEEN TITANS, GUMBALL, INUYASHA. Hell anime will never die.
There's gonna be a crash for anime.
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I was not expecting that.
This is why I don't want to work for Disney or Pixar. I want to go into 2D animation so I'll probably be a free lancer.
You know what I was thinking. Making my own 2D animations-maybe like a small series- and start a RUclips channel. So when it becomes successful, I can use the money and create my own animation company.
Alyssa Paige that would be cool! I wish you luck.
Alyssa Paige that's what I want to do in the future :D
Albert 27 I think that's what we all want ! ;)
SonaLilyAnimations let's all just band together and take over the entertainment industry once and for all lol
How does this only have 5,000+ views? This video is better then any video I have ever made and I have more subs and views! This is amazing! This needs way more views!
2D Animation is still very present but now it’s more present on tv then in movies
"Pull the lever, Kronk"
**pulls 3D lever**
*_"That's still the wrong lever!"_*
I need to correct the last part: Series like Family Guy, Simpsons and Regular Show are NOT traditional animated. Traditional animation means hand drawn/cell animation. The earlier named shows are all made on the computer in program's like Flash, After Effects and ToonBoom. Cell-animation is just TOO expensive to do on large, time consuming projects.
Ikbeneennestel Regular Show is hand drawn though, and there are plenty of other shows that are still traditionally animated. So I wouldn't say it's TOO expensive.
Ikbeneennestel you'd be surprised how many shows are still traditionally done. Mostly tho, they are outsourced to Korea.
They are traditionally animated, but not with paper XD Usually called "paperless animation" where you animate frame by frame hand-drawn using digital programs like Toon Boom or Flash for some people.
Family Guy spends a disgusting amount on each episode. They could easily afford renaissance Disney level animation but they're greedy.
I just want to point something out.
2D animation and traditional animation are two different things
Captain Nerd true.
Simply Beautiful.
I admire the hard work and appreciation put into this tribute of the Medium I love so much. Animation.
Thank You.
Awesome summary! Thanks for sharing
Huh, I didn't know I wanted a hand-drawn pixar film.
You can't compare another movie to up. That's not fair for the other movies.
PizzaDeliveryMan ikr, she even compared Incredibles to Home on the Range, WHAT?! 😂😂.
Why does everyone talk about Up?? What is "Up"?? Idek what it's about, but I think it's a movie, right?
PizzaDeliveryMan *cough* The Lion King, Mulan, Aladin, The Jungle Book, Bambi, Dumbo, Winnie the Pooh *cough* classics *cough*
Up is more than the short film of the opening.....
We NEED more movies in 2D.
I have heard that Disney is returning to 2D animation, but maybe they won’t be abandoning 3D animation completely.
nice video cool voice over , subscribed from the first video
I wish more people would talk about Sponge Out of Water. It sold itself with the gimmick of the main Spongebob characters transforming from 2D to 3D when they travel above water, but people who were fans of Spongebob did not seem to mind that most of the film is still animated in 2D because the main Spongebob characters spend a bigger portion of Sponge Out of Water in the show's usual settings than they did in The Spongebob Squarepants Movie and later Sponge On the Run, and because the part where they travel above water happens later than you think to have less filler before the main Spongebob Squarepants characters find Burger Beard. I liked how good Sponge Out of Water was at mixing four different styles of animation in the same movie, and remembered to credit all four animation teams. Because of Spongebob, we got to have a majority-2D animated film be one of the highest grossing in the annual Top 10 for one more year.
great video thank you !
I’m that kind of person that loves any kinds of animation: 3D CG, 2D Hand Drawn, Stop-Motion, etc.
I do have a preference for 2D Hand Drawn and i do want to see it more in movie theaters, but i love beautiful 3D CG movies as well. In fact, some of my favorite animated movies are in 3D: The Incredibles, Spider-Verse and Ratatouille.
I prefer 2D, but that doesn’t mean that i don’t enjoy 3D. I really dislike the hate that 3D animation gets. Both 2D and 3D have their strengths and weaknesses. 2D can do things that 3D can’t, but 3D can also do things that it’s impossible doing it in 2D.
In my opinion, 2D will never be forgotten and 3D is not overrated. Both mediums deserve respect and should co-exist.
I completely agree. Im a 3D animator but that doesn't mean I don't love 2D. I appreciate both because they are appealing for different reasons.
Song of the Sea was AMAZING! I recommend everyone to watch it, adults and kids! The drawing style, along with the storyline are SOOO unique! Also the style of drawing in The Illusionist kinda reminds me of 101 Dalmatians! I definitely will be checking that movie out!
Traditional animation is still alive on television and in other countries except North America because of computer animation while Disney’s last two traditional animated films were The Princess and the Frog in 2009 and Winnie the Pooh in 2011 they were both really good movies but they were both beaten at the box office by Avatar 2009 and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows in 2011.
You should check out the game cuphead :) amazing animated game
Ummm... 3d animation isn't "automatic". It still takes a TON of skill and time. If you really knew what went into it, you definitely wouldn't have said that.
As 3D animatior: THISSSSSSSSSSS. People don't realise the amount of WORK that goes into programming the freaking SOFTWARE for hair, water, fire, smoke and clothing. The amount of clicks, drags, tears and hard work it takes to make a character move. I hate that a lot of people are so freaking entitled with their 2D animation, talking bullshit about it takes more work/is prettier.
YASSSS
1. The "premade" asset takes more skill, time, and effort "premake" than just having to draw it.
2. Lighting is actually harder in 3d
3. Even though the computer fills in the keyframe transitions, you constantly have to tweak every single transition, because a computer CANNOT animate for you.
4. What's passable is really dependent on who's watching it. I mean would Pixar start making SFMs just cause a large number of people watch them? NO.
5. 2d animation takes WAAAY less time to make. Why do you think all the popular animation channels (James, Jaiden, etc) are able to make videos so fast, while Lucas the Spider videos, which are substantially shorter, take more time to make.
6. 2D animators can get away with being lazy, as they don't have to draw every frame, or animate more than just a character's mouth. 3D on the other hand, even in cartoon-style, cannot do such things, as all characters are CONSTANTLY in motion, and every frame has to be rendered. Which takes even MORE time.
Even to add to that, some assets cannot just be MANIPULATED, but rather Simulated, using algorithms that top notch engineers spend forever to calculate
TheButtonMash3r I don't agree with your point about how long it takes for us to make animation. Jaiden does PMV barely any animation style we take years and years to make films. Just like you. I don't know about 3D but in 2D most of the time is for fluidity of motion, and for me it's coloring.
3D is cheaper and less time consuming than 2D, thats why studios are shifting to 3D, but 2D is still popular in Japan and other countries.
Regular show did end in 2017 .At least you mentioned that the popular western cartoons .The Simpson’s,Spongebob and Family guy
Ya do know you can use perspective to draw 3d and can use paint and colours to add shadows and a 3d depth
But than we still have anime
The blue slime Meeeeeh. Anime can be hella boring as an animation at times, yeah good story and dynamic picture, but it won't ever be as good as non-japanese animation. I mean, Princess Mononoke and Totoro are fucking gorgeous, people are so different and facial emotions are amazing, but in most cases like Free or K-ON-the animation is very boring and faces are boring too. Most animes are good for like, boobs and girly boys, also action and gore. It even seems to me that anime are the last animated movies that you would use to learn animation, it seems like they never even use the 12 principles of animation at all, IMHO.
You right, you right xD
@@pep-o-butt672 they do use the 12 principles of animation. Thats very basic. Its just that the way that those fundamentals are being expressed may be different but, I feel thats obvious. The thing about Japanese animation is that it evolved very differently from American animation, and the practices in place are used to save time on production, since there are many things that can go wrong amd deadlines are hellishly tight. You are right when you say that most TV anime are visually boring, but thats due to the sort of, "moving manga" aesthetic that has been in use since the 60s, mostly for manga adaptations of course. Saying most anime is for boys and have a lot of fanservice is blatantly incorrect and shows that you only really have a surface level knowledge of anime. There are many great animators and shows, movies, shorts, etc out there that you may not know about because they're extremely niche, especially to western audiences, that push animation to its limits. Its just a matter of getting deeper into it. Most modern anime sucks to be perfectly honest. The industry is in a state of stagnation at the moment. There's still good stuff, but its not popular. The best period for japanese animation I would say is the 80s. Also, I find it funny that you mentioned 2 Kyoto animation shows as visually boring, as Kyoto animation shows are generally very high quality animation wise. Their shows much better than most animated shows, even in America
@@pep-o-butt672 seems like you don't watch anime at all.
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Ah yes, the 2D masterpiece
Great vid!
Wonderful video
Very good video!
So motivating
How come hand drawn animation did so well throughout the 20th century, but then slumped at the start of the 21st century?
If most of Disney's traditional art were classics, why would they stop???
In the 2000s a lot of their 2D movies ere box office failures
Could you look into of somewhere topic with Japanese animation, there seems to be a preference of 2D animation over there rather than 3D... I'm of course talking about anime.
Spongebob even still uses traditional animation today.
Some best 2d movies
Paperman is beautiful as fuck, I wish more movies would try to blend the medias for a really awe-inspiring aesthetic experience. (heads up to Stop Motion)
0:42 man, OG land before time was the freaking best. Now they're on like number 24 or something
Part of the reason that 3D CGI steamrolled hand drawn animation in the West is that 2D animated characters in feature films, especially human characters were lacking in detail. They had bar teeth, lacked distinctive secondary details like having more than one color on their skin or spots on their shirts, and there was at most, non-integrated shadows on the characters for certain scenes. There was almost no evolution in that regard from 1961 until 1991. The characters got slightly more detailed if you compare Beauty and the Beast to 101 Dalmatians. The Beast is an obvious exception to some of my points. But they're also a fair bit blander too, probably owing to the influence of animators from Filmation and other TV studios. The Soviets did pursue more detailed characters in that time period but did so mostly in short films. If there had been a business model in place for creating short and mid-length animated films then they might have experimented more and applied what they learned to the features. Does anybody else agree or do they think that 3D CG would have taken over anyways?
I prefer 3D animation to be honest
When i grow up i'm probably not going to work for Disney or Pixar, I love 2D animation and instead I would rather be an animator for a television series. And maybe I can be an animator in Europe, maybe not Japan though. Or maybe for some video games. Well, who knows? but I hope 2D animation will stay alive. Heck, maybe I might make my own studio when I grow up.
The problem of 2D animation or 3D animation is not the dimension inself, Pixar have a better history and script developement than the Disney 2D animated films, also, 2D animation is cheaper than 3D animation, that is the reason why the Disney TV series still been animated in 2D.
And then there's "Klaus". For anyone who hasn't heard of it, look it up. Looks like it's going to at least be a beautifully animated 2D film for 2019 and the teaser trailer is rather entertaining
0:00 nostalgia
Sorry I just can't get over the smear frame at the very beginning where her arm is three times as long as it should be
and u forget about anime
I agree with what Lasseter said at the end. It is not how it looks, it is how it presents itself. If Snoopy with it´s simple and easy animation can be captive and engaging while a messy expensive movie like Titan EA only leaves the audience confused or mixed then it was the problem with story and presentation. Now it is easy to say a lot of 3D movie sucks but that is only becuse there are so many. Remember all the 2D movies that sucked? No? Becuse you focused on the one you loved.
Then doesn't that defeat the purpose of an ANIMATED film? If I wanted to look at realism, I'd watch a live action film instead.
exactly
Exactly. An animated film is for doing things you CAN'T do in live action. Like have characters be in a world that behaves irregular to our world. It's not about recreating something that already exists.
Jugem16 Yes but they change a character to work with a unique silhouette. Not all animated characters have to be biologically correct.
Yes but principles don't equal the versatility of hand drawn animation, they are merely a part of it. Extra software is needed to remotely match the look of hand drawn animation but it will NEVER be replicated as easily.
Jugem16 No I'm resentful. Because the saturation of the medium took away my dream job in the mainstream. I can no longer be an inbetweener because of stupid convenience. Because they are too lazy to think in three dimensions in 2D. Richard Williams can do it, why can't they? I both am grateful but also hate CG at the same time because it made a new medium and made Pixar but it also ruined the industry and made people think traditional animation is just for kids. I'm utterly sick of it! If I make a film I'm only using pencils or stop motion, thank you very much.
i think the brilliance of toy story was that the toys looked REAL to kids (like myself at the time). i didnt like how the real life characters looked, especially Sid. He looked halfway between real life and inhuman and it freaked me out (altho all the scenes with him were freaky, so even Andy is a better example). but the toys were believable, and that was perfect for computer animation at the time. then with things like the incredibles and finding nemo, they felt better than real life in a way (such as Avatar), or like caricatures of real life that had charm (incredibles).
but gahd, i miss the absolutely captivating beauty of the little mermaid. maybe 2D isn't optimal for some scenes, but the same can be said for 3D. maybe the mix of both like tarzan is best. or anime idol shows using 3D for the dance/song scenes. idk.
If I become a successful animator and make my own movie in the future it will be 2D. I hope 2D Animation will come back to theatres.
Some studios use cgi for the effects in their anime (I mean like sparks or stylized smoke here, not garbage 3d models thrown in) and the results can be absolutely fucking spectacular
Look at your name., any high action shot from Fate/Zero/Stay Night UBW, or something like Ajin. One of the biggest shows this season was entirely 3d animated.
I personally love regular 2d animation but I'm not ever gonna deny the advantages of 3d, I just wish big name western animation studios would take a risk now and again (They can't be that out of cash, right?).
to me 2d and 3d is 2 different thing, and i think we should keep both.
I try making 2D animation just like other people but it goes really bad.
practice makes perfect! animation can take years to master, and it takes a lot of work to improve. it might look bad now, but if you just keep animating, it'll become amazing in the future. i wish you the best of luck!!
I really want to slap Jeffrey Katzenburg. When I was a kid, whether a film was animated in 3D or hand-drawn had absolutely no bearing on how much I loved something. I loved Toy Story as much as I loved The Emperor's New Groove.
Well... Studio Ghibli still making 2D movies. Disney is not the only to make animated movies
Story, story, story!
Also, Home On the Range did poorly at the box office because of the story not because it was hand-drawn.
Toy Story, Shrek, Ice Age Madagascar are the biggest reasons I love 3D Animation more. Whether it's for Game Design (Which I actually want to pursue and going to School for) Movies, or Animated Series.
Klaus is coming as a 2d 3d hybrid
I wonder what 4D animation would look like?
It's not dying for television but for theaters yes
cartoons for tv don't use traditional animation but 2d digital animation
Well in Japan they do anime and that's traditional animation
In Europe and Japan, especially Japan, 2d animation is no where near death. People actually hate 3d Japanese animations (anime) it the point there is virtually none.
I love 2D animation more than 3D animation!
Well my little pony was a 2d animated film and was released in 2017, so i don't know watcha talkin bout
It is based on a tv series
did you know that the most common 2d animation is also now digital
And... the reason why Up and The Incredibles got more numbers is because they are more in depth stories. people got tired of disney's gimmick.
Princess and The Frog was competing against Avatar (A huge mistake on their part) and some adults were pussies to go to see it because had the word "Princess" in it. Despite it being Disney.
You forgot Anime :(
omg regular show
I'm not gonna lie, I personally perfer traditional animation and hybrid.
Thinks haven't been the same since 2010
6:05 I DIDN'T EXPECT TO CRY YOU BASTARD
Comparing Incredibles to Home on the Range? Comparing one of the greatest animated movies of all time to one of Disney’s worst
The future and currente 2D animation is in Japan?
If I ever write my own animated film, I will definitely make sure it uses Traditional animation. I will make it the first Traditional animated film from...Illumination! Illumination! By the way, we still have Traditional animation on TV, so why not bring it back to film? Traditional and CGI were able to coexist before in the 2000s, so why not now? Even Traditional TV shows now still have the digital technology for more detailed backgrounds and shadows, and I still want to see Traditional animation on the big screen again.
I think having no Traditional films anymore caused the CGI TV animation budget to go down the toilet, which is why the Tangled and Big Hero 6 TV shows in 2017 couldn't afford the same CGI as the films when Madagascar and How To Train Your Dragon were CGI animated films whose following TV shows could afford the same CGI animation 5 years before 2017.
Having a not-so-famous voice cast be main characters in my film like Tara Strong or Samuel Vincent or Tom Kenny or Ashleigh Ball who were also in films as characters that they previously voiced in TV shows would also work because people who liked their voices on TV might like their voices in films and I want to learn how to stay in TV budget when making a big-screen film because that's what Nicholas Meyer did in Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan. G ratings and Traditional animation were not a death sentence 2 decades ago, so I need to make sure they still aren't now. The last film that was both of them with new characters (I'm not counting the 2011 Winnie the Pooh since they were in earlier films) was the 2009 The Princess and the Frog. September 26, 2017, 6:42pm
Even though I don't know them very well, I still look up to Nicholas Meyer as a writer and director and Michelle Rodriguez as an actress. Nicholas Meyer because he stays in TV budget when making a TV series film. Michelle Rodriguez because on June 27, 2017, she threatened to quit Fast and Furious because The F8 of the Furious didn't give her and other female stars enough attention. September 26, 2017, 6:44pm
you forgot to mention anime...
Yes, but CG AGES QUICKLY! Hand drawn animation is timeless. CG gets out of date because of the technology always changing.
realar Which is why Vanessa in The littler mermaid is still sexy to this day.
A Defender No, the look of the render is reflective of the technology of the time. How many vertices that can be used to develop a character depends on processing power, and their computers are changed rapidly. It is called planned obsolescence, and it is an evil created by business. Hand drawn animation had only a few changes to the craft in a long stretch of time. CG changes RAPIDLY.
A Defender Maybe it was.
Like in graphic arts, traditional paintings are here to stay.
2d is good than 3d
the example is japanese anime which is seen all over the world
3d is replacing 2d in all aspects. and 2d is dying...and maybe still have a breath to linger on TV or amateur enthusiasts.
Theory: many weeaboos just don't like 3d cgi, so they look elsewhere and find that Japan still makes 2d stuff.
2D animaitan wel live with 3D
Lol. 2d isn't dying. Japan's got 2d's back!
I really want to see something along the lines of Paperman again: 3D animation overlaid with 2D animation, so Disney can have their cake and eat it too.
Because anyone who can draw can grab some paper, pencils & paint and crack 2D animation and anyone who knows computers can get Blender or something and make 3D animated movies, mostly for free.
But that Paperman blend was special.
2D was never a dying art form. If you have an amazing story and great characters it doesn't make a difference. Thr technology we have now should support the 2D animation not surpass it. 2D has a beauty, a flow that CGI doesn't have and it comes off way more natural and smooth. And it's more freedom creatively. 2D is always the way to go.
* Cries because 3d software is more expensive *
I do 2d animation myself!
Same :D
Ok but dont they understand rhat these recent 2d animated films sucked ass compared to the pixar movies?
All japan anime is still 2d
Sidonia no Kishi, God Eater, Ajin, and Houseki no Kuni are all 3D anime, to name but a few.