I think the DS Lite only outputs composite video, and there is no native digital HDMI mod for the DS Lite. would be a really bad idea to have a VCR DAC installed, so it would have to have a zero-latency line-doubler installed, but since the scaler would be working with composite video it would still not have great video quality. best option is to output composite video from the Macro to a CRT.
Honestly this, if there was was to output both screens while having the bottom section as the controller, A plug n play consolized DS is something I'd be all over for.
It's not obvious. The video out signal that the DS lite (only one that supports video out) produces is 240p. You would still need a converter for composite video. And I doubt you would like the result
@@robotm99there would have to be a zero-latency line-doubler or line-quintupler etc installed into the Macro in order for the experience to not be bad, and even then I’m pretty sure the DS Lite is only able to output composite video so even if the scaling was actually done well the picture would still be kinda bad. like composite video using a RetroTINK-5X for example is zero-latency and properly-scaled but it’s still hard to make composite video look good when transcoded to digital.
DUDE! Congrats on five years of Retro Renew! This is one of my favorite channels, and, since I started watching your channel, I have bought myself a GBA consolizer (which I love), and I have also finally bought a GBA custom kit with lithium battery, new screen, and new audio chip and speakers. Because I you, I WILL assemble it soon. Thanks for everything you do!
I would love to see BoxyPixel extend the shell to include the second screen in a slab format similar to the 2DS. The other problem with the DS was the hinge, not necessarily a bad upper screen. Removing the hinge and having a metal shell would fix a lot of issues.
Honestly I have always thought the Gameboy Macro was a bad gimmick, even for a DS with a broken top screen. Because in the amount of money and effort it would take to mod it into one, you could probably fix whatever issues the console had originally. It’s just a worse GBA in nearly every regard, no link cable support, and no GB/GBC support. If the screen swapping mod becomes commonplace though, that feels like a decent compromise.
for me at least its good but i would prefer an upgrade that allows for both screens but removes that nasty hinge (kinda like the form factor for 2DS but with the GBA slot for DS
@@legendofswords The problem with that is that game graphics took that hinge into account. My preference would be a video out mod where the top screen was outside. Sort of like a wired Wii U
The fat version is much worse in terms of build quality because it was more or less an experiment by Nintendo to see if there was actually a market for this new dual screen handheld. In saying that you can get a capture card for it...
Congrats on five years. Handheld mods in particular are something I’ve always been very interested in but never had the time for. I appreciate these videos nonetheless which have an educational value to them plus a uniquely high production value feelings given by how well they are shot compared to the great competition in the handheld modding space. On top of that you just have a calm voice which made these video a sort of weekly ritual of mine whenever you uploaded since 2021 to watch these as I eat my lunch. He’s to another 5 years of Macho Nacho to watch as I eat lunch and one day I might actually try some of these mods for myself.
8:24 - Sorry to be pedantic, but those are not vias, they are test pads/points. Vias are the very small plated holes that go through the board which connect traces on the various layers of the PCB together. Many test pads are connected directly to a via and nothing else while others are simply inline with a trace or sitting on a ground plane. That said, you perform the mod excellently and I love what you do with the channel! Congrats on the 5 years!
When I just watched the video there were still 6 of Luke Wakeford's mods in stock. Well 5, because I bought one. ❤ Thanks for mentioning that. Never heard of that . ❤
I have a DS Lite with a broken top screen that I’ve been just waiting to find the time/money/motivation to do a mod like this. It’s not meant to be an upgrade but give new life to broken hardware.
It is finally the gameboy advance that matches the gameboy DMG and super gameboy design aesthetic. That being said, I dont want it unless it comes in DMG beige plastic with the grey dot matrix labeled bezel. Otherwise it won't match my vaporwave super DMG themed collection
Dude replace the broken screen for cheaper and get free screenprotection from the clamshell. Plus you don't kill your DSs features. This mod is beyond stupid
Good timing as well since it was the 20th anniversary of the DS launch! (11/21/04) Congrats on your journey thus far, Tito! Glad that RUclips steered me in your direction.
metal shells are so expensive, but they look so good. i'd say they even take the edge over clear shells thanks to their durability, imo. also, that was some wicked soldering man :)
Mind-blowing that just regular people can make components for these devices that replicate if not surpass the quality of the original manufacturer. Good job fellas.
I like that the refurbish market is opening venues to finally make a DS single-screen fully functional. It'd be nifty if they could create shells that made the build shaped like a Super NES controller, since the DS basically has all the inputs of that console.
Having a broken original DS, I could need another more improved Macro Mod for that one. Looks pretty cool tho, love how the metal shell kinda suits the DS/lite menu too.
Can't belive i'm watching your content for 5 Years already man. Congratulation 🎉. I think the price is resonable for what you get, put yeah...pricy. Awesome Video like always, keep it up bro. Cheers 🥰🤘.
Although I appreciate the work behind this, I think it's a waste because you can't use all the possibilities this hardware has to offer. If the upper screen is broken the pieces for replacing it aren't very expensive.
It won't be long til someone makes a headphone extender that sits flush with the case. Probably easy to make and 3d print, the hard part will be the bit of metal.
I have questions: 1. Can I use both speakers at the same time? 2.What happens if you plug in both charging cables at the same time? 3.Does it still have a place to hang charms like the DS does? 4.What does it weigh in at compared to the previous one? 5.Does BoxyPixel plan for a plug to cover the DS slot for those who just want it to be a GBMacro still?
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this video! Awesome build video. I would love to build one too at some point. I wonder, would it be possible to have two speakers installed? One on the front and one at the back.
A Dual Screen handheld made into a single screen handheld that can switch between dual screens. This is the definition of the saying: 'Because you can'.
I would want to put membrane switches under the D Pad to fix how mushy it is. That could introduce more problems with how loud each button press becomes, so noise dampening Material might have to be added, maybe a thin film of silicone? One of my personal gripes with the ds lite was the gba game sticking out, but they fixed that
I would love to get that shell in a clear black plastic. I'm not a fan of metal shells nor their prices. And congratulations on 5 years of showing us what our systems could be.
I used to work in a retro game shop and fixing a top screen of a DS lite is EXTREMELY difficult and not really cost effective. Therefore turning them into something like this can be a fun little upcycling project. I do agree that doing this to a functional ds is silly, but for ds with a busted top screen or something this is neat
If the creators are listening I'd absolutely love a plastic version of this! As cool as metal handhelds are I don't really like to use them long term, found that out with the unhinged shell.
I don’t see the appeal to this mod at all. GB Macro made sense when it was a plastic shell used to revive a broken console on the cheap. The backlit DS screen is nice but pales in comparison to aftermarket GBA screens
As the owner of a definitely jankier version of one of these I can vouch that they are fun especially with screen swapping. They just make little sense in 2024 with stuff like the miyoo mini and flipzizzle around.
Just a reminder: if your DS has a broken top half and you wish to mod it, first consider restoring the DS functionality - the top screen and the circuitry and the speakers are not proprietary.
hey bud, just wanted to say I love watching your videos. I have been watching every release for a while now. I was wondering why there isn't any mod videos for xbox 360's?
I love these mods, but my biggest complaint will always be the lack of a cheaper plastic option. Both for my wallet, and also because I have a metal allergy and can't handle these devices very long.
That's pretty sweet for a GBA Macro Not sure I would play much DS on it, though. Unless I can find games that mostly use one screen, that switching around would get way too fiddly for my liking.
The thing with calling it a single screen Nintendo DS is that "DS" stands for dual screen so that doesn't make sense, it's more like a gameboy advance that can play DS games
Prime example of Marketing 101. Advertising this as a "Single-Screen Nintendo DS" tells me this is a broken product that can only access some DS games and even then it'll be just unenjoyable. But if you advertise this as a "Gameboy Advance 1DS" or something, it tells me that it's an upgraded GBA with additional features and QOL improvements including access to some NDS games. Essentially - you're selling me a broken DS instead of a upgraded GBA+ system.
the only thing missing imo, is a micro/mini hdmi (via usbc why not) to output the top screen at home
I think the DS Lite only outputs composite video, and there is no native digital HDMI mod for the DS Lite. would be a really bad idea to have a VCR DAC installed, so it would have to have a zero-latency line-doubler installed, but since the scaler would be working with composite video it would still not have great video quality. best option is to output composite video from the Macro to a CRT.
Honestly this, if there was was to output both screens while having the bottom section as the controller, A plug n play consolized DS is something I'd be all over for.
@@RdCrestdBreegull getting analog output of a ds lite would be so cool for these games.
I'm a bit surprised there isn't an option with HMDI out for the top screen, seems like an obvious avenue to explore
It's not obvious. The video out signal that the DS lite (only one that supports video out) produces is 240p.
You would still need a converter for composite video. And I doubt you would like the result
@@axelkusanagi4139 doesn't sound any worse than the output of a 5x scaled SNES, no?
@@axelkusanagi4139You totally missed the point I think.
It’s not about the fidelity or resolution, I think that’s just part of the package.
I saw a similar mod, looks like a wired Wii U but it's kinda cool
@@robotm99there would have to be a zero-latency line-doubler or line-quintupler etc installed into the Macro in order for the experience to not be bad, and even then I’m pretty sure the DS Lite is only able to output composite video so even if the scaling was actually done well the picture would still be kinda bad. like composite video using a RetroTINK-5X for example is zero-latency and properly-scaled but it’s still hard to make composite video look good when transcoded to digital.
Congrats on 5 Years Tito
Thank you 🙏
DUDE! Congrats on five years of Retro Renew! This is one of my favorite channels, and, since I started watching your channel, I have bought myself a GBA consolizer (which I love), and I have also finally bought a GBA custom kit with lithium battery, new screen, and new audio chip and speakers. Because I you, I WILL assemble it soon. Thanks for everything you do!
I would love to see BoxyPixel extend the shell to include the second screen in a slab format similar to the 2DS. The other problem with the DS was the hinge, not necessarily a bad upper screen. Removing the hinge and having a metal shell would fix a lot of issues.
A slab ds would be awesome.
This is all I really want from Boxy Pixel.
That's makes DS games half playable
A lot of games had most of the action on one screen
Sonic Rush and Wario Ware come to mind, yes. Also Metroid Prime Hunters.
Many other games are fine with just one screen however.
Honestly I have always thought the Gameboy Macro was a bad gimmick, even for a DS with a broken top screen. Because in the amount of money and effort it would take to mod it into one, you could probably fix whatever issues the console had originally. It’s just a worse GBA in nearly every regard, no link cable support, and no GB/GBC support. If the screen swapping mod becomes commonplace though, that feels like a decent compromise.
Exactly what I'm thinking. This isn't a mod it's low key breaking your DS into a whacky GBA
I personally love how thin and comfortable the original GB macro felt
for me at least its good but i would prefer an upgrade that allows for both screens but removes that nasty hinge (kinda like the form factor for 2DS but with the GBA slot for DS
@@legendofswords The problem with that is that game graphics took that hinge into account.
My preference would be a video out mod where the top screen was outside. Sort of like a wired Wii U
There was a time that DS's were so cheap, that buying replacement parts wasn't worth it vs the price of a used DS so the ds macro was the result.
This makes me yearns for an custom PSP case with a spot for an USB C port.
The console's name changed from DS(dual screen) to S(Screen)
lol, the nintendo s
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Hahahhah
nintendo's nintendo s
nintendo ASS
Yes
It's too bad 99% of mods are for the DS lite and the original fat version doesn't recieve any love.
The fat version is much worse in terms of build quality because it was more or less an experiment by Nintendo to see if there was actually a market for this new dual screen handheld. In saying that you can get a capture card for it...
Congrats on five years. Handheld mods in particular are something I’ve always been very interested in but never had the time for. I appreciate these videos nonetheless which have an educational value to them plus a uniquely high production value feelings given by how well they are shot compared to the great competition in the handheld modding space. On top of that you just have a calm voice which made these video a sort of weekly ritual of mine whenever you uploaded since 2021 to watch these as I eat my lunch. He’s to another 5 years of Macho Nacho to watch as I eat lunch and one day I might actually try some of these mods for myself.
Congrats on 5 years Tito! Here's to many more 😊
Thank you! 🙏
8:24 - Sorry to be pedantic, but those are not vias, they are test pads/points. Vias are the very small plated holes that go through the board which connect traces on the various layers of the PCB together. Many test pads are connected directly to a via and nothing else while others are simply inline with a trace or sitting on a ground plane.
That said, you perform the mod excellently and I love what you do with the channel! Congrats on the 5 years!
The only thing I wish this mod has is the ability to play on a TV, or some kind of display for recording purposes.
When I just watched the video there were still 6 of Luke Wakeford's mods in stock. Well 5, because I bought one. ❤
Thanks for mentioning that. Never heard of that . ❤
FINALLY someone made the Nintendo 1DS
or the Nintendo S
Nintendo SS (screen swap)?
Nein nein nein @@ericpode6095
The US (UniScreen)
The Nintendo SS Plus Congratiolations On 5 years channel
Thank you!! 🙏
@@MachoNachoProductions you welcome.. :)
@@johnniewalker7499 What??
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LETS NOT
Umm Whats wrong with the People?
Congrats on 5 years! Been one of my favorite retro console channel for awhile now. Flawless vibes in the videos, I look forward to many more years!
I just discovered this channel this year, so I went back and have also been watching your videos from the beginning
This actually doesn't make sense
🤣🤣
I can see the value to it. Upcycle broken hardware, dedicate it to GBA. But playing ds on it? Whack
@ it’s a step forward for ds emulation in the future at least
I have a DS Lite with a broken top screen that I’ve been just waiting to find the time/money/motivation to do a mod like this. It’s not meant to be an upgrade but give new life to broken hardware.
It is finally the gameboy advance that matches the gameboy DMG and super gameboy design aesthetic.
That being said, I dont want it unless it comes in DMG beige plastic with the grey dot matrix labeled bezel.
Otherwise it won't match my vaporwave super DMG themed collection
Looking forward to the update when you get the new screen swap switch mod.
Dude replace the broken screen for cheaper and get free screenprotection from the clamshell. Plus you don't kill your DSs features. This mod is beyond stupid
I had a feeling this video was coming
This has to be the biggest “y tho” in the history of tech
One of 'em, for sure. 😆
Not that this isn't at least kinda cool.
Good timing as well since it was the 20th anniversary of the DS launch! (11/21/04)
Congrats on your journey thus far, Tito! Glad that RUclips steered me in your direction.
nothing better than a take apart and rebuild to some smooth music
This looks GREAT! I ♥ the NDS!
They should of added an option to have an extended battery. Especially considering the fact that type c was added as a charging option.
We were not waiting for this lol
metal shells are so expensive, but they look so good. i'd say they even take the edge over clear shells thanks to their durability, imo. also, that was some wicked soldering man :)
HAPPY 5th Tito!!!! Thanks for all the awesome content!
Congratulations for your first 5 years😊 Cover the screen swapping mod, please!
AS ALWAYS, LOVE 💖💖The soldering, soooo clean.
Mind-blowing that just regular people can make components for these devices that replicate if not surpass the quality of the original manufacturer. Good job fellas.
I've been waiting for this! Congrats Tito too! You are one of my favorite youtubers
Congrats on the 5 year anniversary Tito!🎉
I like that the refurbish market is opening venues to finally make a DS single-screen fully functional. It'd be nifty if they could create shells that made the build shaped like a Super NES controller, since the DS basically has all the inputs of that console.
Having a broken original DS, I could need another more improved Macro Mod for that one.
Looks pretty cool tho, love how the metal shell kinda suits the DS/lite menu too.
Great looking mod! Great design. Gotta upgrade my current Macro.
this is a really cool mod, but i do hope some non-machine aluminum shells in this form factor become available some day, 115 is too much for my budget
Can't belive i'm watching your content for 5 Years already man.
Congratulation 🎉.
I think the price is resonable for what you get, put yeah...pricy.
Awesome Video like always, keep it up bro. Cheers 🥰🤘.
Although I appreciate the work behind this, I think it's a waste because you can't use all the possibilities this hardware has to offer. If the upper screen is broken the pieces for replacing it aren't very expensive.
Been a fun journey. Congrats!
I remember using your first GB Macro video from all those years ago.
Your channel is only huh? You have the air of being around well before I even finished highschool
Wow. I have been with you since the beginning. Congrats on 5 years
A single screen DS?!?! You have my attention! The DS will always be my favourite console.
I never knew there was a screen swapping mod, so yes, it would be interesting to see.
It won't be long til someone makes a headphone extender that sits flush with the case. Probably easy to make and 3d print, the hard part will be the bit of metal.
4:56 I sweat I thought you said "Luke Waitforit". I was like "is that Barney Stinson's son?"
I ended up ordering the Expansion card for the NES after watching the video you linked to at the end of this one.
The display was my biggest issue I had with the original GB Macro. This mod would benefit a lot from a better screen.
Another great video Tito! I hope you're doing well buddy!
This is so cool and amazing!
Wow, cool! 🤩
I have questions:
1. Can I use both speakers at the same time?
2.What happens if you plug in both charging cables at the same time?
3.Does it still have a place to hang charms like the DS does?
4.What does it weigh in at compared to the previous one?
5.Does BoxyPixel plan for a plug to cover the DS slot for those who just want it to be a GBMacro still?
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this video! Awesome build video. I would love to build one too at some point. I wonder, would it be possible to have two speakers installed? One on the front and one at the back.
A Dual Screen handheld made into a single screen handheld that can switch between dual screens.
This is the definition of the saying: 'Because you can'.
Their scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they never stopped to think if they should
Congrats on 5 Years
I love this mod. I don't like how the battery door has a slightly different finish.
Thank you for your video 🤩 it's always a pleasure ❤
I would want to put membrane switches under the D Pad to fix how mushy it is. That could introduce more problems with how loud each button press becomes, so noise dampening Material might have to be added, maybe a thin film of silicone?
One of my personal gripes with the ds lite was the gba game sticking out, but they fixed that
I would love to get that shell in a clear black plastic. I'm not a fan of metal shells nor their prices.
And congratulations on 5 years of showing us what our systems could be.
The appropriate Fifth Anniversary Video. The Game Boy Macro is now a single screen DS that will become a proper one in the future.
I used to work in a retro game shop and fixing a top screen of a DS lite is EXTREMELY difficult and not really cost effective. Therefore turning them into something like this can be a fun little upcycling project. I do agree that doing this to a functional ds is silly, but for ds with a busted top screen or something this is neat
If the creators are listening I'd absolutely love a plastic version of this! As cool as metal handhelds are I don't really like to use them long term, found that out with the unhinged shell.
I don’t see the appeal to this mod at all. GB Macro made sense when it was a plastic shell used to revive a broken console on the cheap. The backlit DS screen is nice but pales in comparison to aftermarket GBA screens
Recommend was on time for once. Perfect timing for my bus home lol
As the owner of a definitely jankier version of one of these I can vouch that they are fun especially with screen swapping. They just make little sense in 2024 with stuff like the miyoo mini and flipzizzle around.
Un-DS's your DS.
I'm gonna reinvent the wheel as a square brick with a drawing of a wheel near it
If you were able to hook this up to a TV and have it be the top screen and the bottom screen be the handheld that would be amazing!
The Wii U mini 😂
3:19
FULL METAL ALCHEMIST
really cool mod my only complaint is not having stereo sound option as far as the speakers goes
100 years into the future, someone is looking for those L and R trigger that where wrongly CNC'd, and finding out how super rare they are.
I love how USB C is a universal charger now XD
It’s funny that you also posted this a day after the ds turned 20 years old
Just a reminder: if your DS has a broken top half and you wish to mod it, first consider restoring the DS functionality - the top screen and the circuitry and the speakers are not proprietary.
You should do a video anodizing it… would be cool…. Or just doing the buttons.
Is there going to be a plastic version? Since aluminium blocks the wireless communication, or will there be a work around?
hey bud, just wanted to say I love watching your videos. I have been watching every release for a while now. I was wondering why there isn't any mod videos for xbox 360's?
Ooooo hell yeah finally the macro fat I've been wanting let's go!!!
If the shell was available in a Dye moulded plastic peaces would have made sense.
I love these mods, but my biggest complaint will always be the lack of a cheaper plastic option. Both for my wallet, and also because I have a metal allergy and can't handle these devices very long.
imagine playing twewy with the screen swap mod. wild
If this ever receives a Video Out mod I might consider it
this is silly, you should have put the top screen on the back.
That's pretty sweet for a GBA Macro
Not sure I would play much DS on it, though. Unless I can find games that mostly use one screen, that switching around would get way too fiddly for my liking.
Here we go!
Nintendo DS = Dual Screen, You you have a Nintendo SS = Single Screen
I wish someone would make a duel screen emulator handheld at a normal price but it's whatever
That’s ds switch thing looks pretty interesting
How about a single screen DS much like the non folding 2DS but with full Capacitive screen without the screen divider (plastic bit) the 2DS has?
Wow. I remember when this first came out
Very cool!
I run the official macro sub Reddit! Hope to see these pop up there!
i hope they make an upgraded screen, ooh an oled! but yeah, great video C:
The thing with calling it a single screen Nintendo DS is that "DS" stands for dual screen so that doesn't make sense, it's more like a gameboy advance that can play DS games
Prime example of Marketing 101. Advertising this as a "Single-Screen Nintendo DS" tells me this is a broken product that can only access some DS games and even then it'll be just unenjoyable. But if you advertise this as a "Gameboy Advance 1DS" or something, it tells me that it's an upgraded GBA with additional features and QOL improvements including access to some NDS games. Essentially - you're selling me a broken DS instead of a upgraded GBA+ system.
I've done two macros now and repaired another 3DS and i never realized I had the shoulder button springs in the opposite position.
People will say that giving steam deck a second screen for ds/wii u emulation is stupid, yet do shit like this and call it peak.