Viswanathan Anand's blunt talk on cheating in Chess; 'Need procedure that works' | HTLS 2022
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Grandmaster Viswanathan Anand opened up about the cheating in chess at the 20th edition of the Hindustan Times Leadership Summit. Anand says he sometimes feels being too naive or trusting. He added that he keeps an open mind, but there are commissions trying to look into the matter. Watch Viswanathan Anand talk about the cheating scandal.
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I love the fact that we got to listen to Anand giving his answer for five minutes, without the interviewer even trying to interrupt him or ask another question. This should be the blueprint for every interview.
Try this with Pierce Morgan, he would have stopped him every 3 Seconds to spew some nonsense....
Interview of Salvatore Babones by Rajdeep Sardesai. Sardesai never let him talk more than 2 or 3 sentences in one go. He forgot that people came to the conclave to listen to Mr Babones on his research. Instead, they were treated to the disgusting diatribe of Rajdeep.
YOU HEAR THAT SAGAR????
Yes but not all guests are highly esteemed like Vishy..
What kind of cheating is he talking about though?
Vishy Anand: calm, rational, sensible gentleman. And my goodness, in his fifties he's still in the top ten in the world!
Btw for those who don’t know, the guy he’s mentioning at 0:41 is Nikhil Kamath, founder of Zerodha.
That guy was an actual clown
Nah bro he didn't cheat, it was strong gambit known as zerodha gambit...
Nikhil Kamath - people don't know how to take a joke. Lol. Alex Botez did this to Andrea Botez last year too. Why are people harsh on Nikhil but not on Alex?
Edit:
because it was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
You didn't answer about Alex and Andrea Botez: how come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So you're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or with you?
@@nicbentulan thats different, they are sister and prank is accepted. But it is different to do this kind of stuff with not only 5 time world champion but also highly respected man in community and India...
@@Parth_20 imagine a young bowler tampering with ball against vk , its literally the same thing
"Am I naïve or are my colleagues paranoid?" Anand is so polite.
Vishy forever a role model of sportsmanship, maturity, and decorum. Planted firmly at that intersection of chess greatness and humane leadership. So rare, so precious.
Finally someone is speaking like a gentleman in this entire situation.
This is incredibly well thought out and stated. I’ve seen intense coverage of this, and this is some of the finest, and by a person who has experience at the highest level.
If Sachin can get Bharat Ratna for cricket.. Vishi can get it for Chess
Shows how cricket has shadowed other sports in India
*Vishwanath Anand The Legend* 🔥
One of the Greatest Chess Players of the World
*Bhagwaan bless him* ❤️🚩🕉️
Calling Anand's reply to the question 'blunt' was a blunt judgement by the publishers.
In fact, he answered honestly without being apologetic about it.
I think by blunt they meant "straightforward"...
Perfect unbiased reply by the legend
"If you can't prove it keep your mouth shut" words from a sage.
In that case, all the sages need to shut up.
@@lesterchua2677 That doesnt makes sense. Explain.
@@lesterchua2677 what, you think big accusations with no evidence are a good thing?
@@joedorben3504 Not necessarily good, but better than keeping quiet to what could very possibly be innovative way of cheating and getting away with it. You see, the GMs sensed something was wrong with this engine-like plays that cannot be humanly produced, they do not have history of accusing good plays by other GMs because those moves while incredible are still humanly possible. And it does not help that Hans Niemann himself has history of cheating. And there is even a youtuber who has experimented and found out there is actually a way to cheat without getting caught using microcontroller and computer program and some assistance. Of course the GMs could have handled that better, but again they are skilled at chess, not skilled at situation control. I feel that this way even works better as these are famous GMs and they can bring a lot of attention to this matter, and further discourage any cheating attempts in the future. If you look at history's revolutions, they are not elegant, too much brute force, but hey, it works.
Lack of evidence does not equal certainty of innocence. And there is no black and white, the world is grayer than you think. So it goes down to what you prioritize. Better try to maintain chess purity than try to maintain Hans Niemann reputation(who already has history of cheating and make questionable "chess speak for itself" unexplainable move) and they do whatever it takes to do it even if it may be kind of morally questionable.
@@stanleyextra2812 Exactly. Very well put.
Perfectly said. So much respect for this man
Vishy: *elaborating so descriptively*
Gukesh: *existing*
When professor talks , student has to listen
@@sansore8868 Also it is not in Indian tradition to interrupt when your senior is speaking. And the senior here is the legend himself. Gukesh would be thanking his stars that he is rubbing shoulders with the legend himself.
wow Congratulations Hindustan times. How did you manage to hire Indira Gandhi and that too to do an interview on Chess ? You guys are amazing.
Irrespective, I'm glad guki didn't answer this. Someone really matured was reqd to answer this!
Cheating has destroyed many online games.
Who would have thought that Chess would also have such popular (Carlsen-Nieman) Drama.
Nikhil Kamat, Zerodha, defeated Vishy Anand 5 time world champion, by using Chess engine! So I didnt open a Zerodha account!
I have been trading on Zerodha since two weeks. But now I have created an account on Dhan.Fuck Alpha Zerodha.
Even Stock fish is a better name for stocks broker company.
0:41 Yeah people condemn Nikhil for prank cheating Vishy but not Alex Botez who prank cheated Andrea Botez too.
It was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
How come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So we're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or against Nikhil?
@@Mathematica1729 0:41 Yeah people condemn Nikhil for prank cheating Vishy but not Alex Botez who prank cheated Andrea Botez too.
It was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
How come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So we're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or against Nikhil?
Oh yeah same. I also opted for Groww instead.
@@rdpathan lol why? 0:41 Yeah people condemn Nikhil for prank cheating Vishy but not Alex Botez who prank cheated Andrea Botez too.
It was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
How come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So we're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or against Nikhil?
0:41 nikhil kamath gambit
0:41 Yeah people condemn Nikhil for prank cheating Vishy but not Alex Botez who prank cheated Andrea Botez too.
It was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
How come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So we're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or against Nikhil?
@@nicbentulan PRANK is the word you wanna use !! Morally, cheating at a charity event is as low one can get since there is nothing to win or lose any award. Tells a lot about one's personality. How do you know that this man is not using the data of zerodha that he access to, to see retailers positions and selling it to big investors to make decisions. And you as a person too, should reconsider how you look at things....prank .....seriously !!! Its called cheating.....okay imagine this you caught your partner sleeping with someone else...and he/she says its a PRANK..... doesn't make sense right !
anand is such a sweet guy..a super GM in his 50s...something unheard of...and never seen arrogant...
if ever they ask for an example of 'speaking through action'..its vishy..
Besides a chess genius Anand is a gentleman! Such a legend!
No Nikhil Kamath was harmed during the making of this video 😂
This is well explained by GM Anand. The vocabularies he used are outstanding. I praise him for his great knowledge of English grammar.
he knows like 6 languages bruh
Bro, He is Indian. If an Indian studies English in school, the chances are he knows it as well as a native English speaker. He will have a classical English education--not the dumbed-down "multicultural" b.s that goes on in other countries. Especially if he is from the South. (Accents are not the topic here. :-))
@@woosterjeeves same with Filipinos / Filipinas. I don't know about Indian street children but even Filipino / Filipina street children know English.
@@nicbentulan Correct. Filipina street children will know better English compared to Indian street children (whose English will be very poor). But I vouchsafe that Indian educated classes will by and large have better vocabulary in English compared to any other Asian country.
@@woosterjeeves but still I bet filipino/Filipina and Indian street children will have better English than street children elsewhere in Asia?
Vishy the Legend , God , GOAT of chess.
Goat of chess? I wanna have the same drugs that you are on 🤣🤣🤣
Magnus and Hikaru are right behind him .
@@treejay818 seriously what crack are you on??? 😆😆😆
Your the one asking for it 🤣🤣🤣
@@treejay818 then please tell me, i wanna be as high as you
Just give him a Bharath Ratna Already.
Zerodha founder taking down notes
These days players are memorizing Ai chess engine recommendations and playing per that
Agree...people should start considering this more
I have seen several GM videos analyzing that game and basically they thought Carlsen just played below his level. No need to take his pawns and go home I don't think.
Niemann just 'happening' to pick up Carlsen's opening though is suspect along with a great many other things about his replies and explanations, though I've said I still give him the benefit of the doubt while acknowledging Carlsen may have very good and sound reasons for suspecting foul play. Whatever the truth may be or what can be proven well enough to merit more response.
Great respect for Anand for standing up for Hans!
Such a mature reply. Enlightening. Carlsen should listen to this.
Nikhil Kamath : Co Founder of Zerodha and Founder of Zerodha Gambit
Future World Champion too.
@@nexuss8189 assuming sarcasm, he is gonna make it one day, he just need to start playing tournaments instead of charity events
Kamath probably does the same with investors money. One day they'll find it going the same route as FTX.
@@rtos I think so too....they also have a PMS service for HNIs....they are not trust worthy
very intelligent assessment of the complexity of proving cheating in chess when there's no figurative smoking gun
As much as I respect Anand, he is being naive here. People don't understand 2 big things about chess. First, how little money there is in proper, professional, non-streaming chess. Second, how large a portion of that money is taken by Carlsen, Caruana and So. Simply put, no matter how hard you work in chess, the once-in-a-lifetime genius will always be ahead of you. This is a pretty primal reason for wanting to cheat, especially if the security measures are so lax and the vice president himself doesn't think people cheat.
Yeah and not to mention, matching stockfish's moves 100% has not been done by any grandmaster ever. Meanwhile Hans does it what 7 games in a row? 100% accuracy. Idk how he did it but that's 100% cheating.
@@etheriongaming517 wow did he really get 100% eval for 7 games??
@@prashant3668 yup. Actual insanity that's not possible by humans without cheating.
@@prashant3668 That's not true. I've heard some version of this being spread around and it's 100% false. Produce the source.
@@etheriongaming517 hmm this has been disproven months ago
Its so rampant these days in online chess, people get caught cheating even with a low ranked player like me, atleast one every month.
wo sab theek hai, but why is indira gandhi taking the interview??
Who could have imagined there would be a time when Vishwanathan Anand gets interviewed by Indira Gandhi?! @1:15
a long winded PC answer. It has been shown that Niemann is a serial cheater and has admitted to such. So, it is not like there is no evidence for suspecting the admitted serial cheater.
but chess speaks for itself😅
Haha
Nieman has cheated before. Maybe don't be so open minded now
online, big difference
Insightful comments from the ex champ
after 5 minutes from Anand about this issue , I haven't got anything.
Basically he pointed out that - 1. There is no solid evidence, 2. He never felt Hans was cheating.
1 in 10000 online. Vishy is so nice and naive. I find plenty of cheaters online.
I think he was referring to games of GMs in professional tournaments.
It’s 1 in 10000 games not players
@@cskwillreturn2473 yes. 1 in 10000 professional games between the GMs
or you just lose to people and automatically assume they cheated
So articulate.
Carlsen will just have to play 5 Niemans simultaneously to prove his point!
Yes, it was an attempt at joking…
Players who don’t feel the magnesian pressure and play for a win. Alireza, Duda, Ding Liren & Hans Neimann!
The legend speaks and the rest listens!
I know this is off-topic but am I the only one who thinks the interviewer looks a bit like Indira Gandhi?
The anchor looks like Indira Gandhi
So the guilt who uses the wrong way will anyway cought
I have been playing online chess for a decade . I can surely say that more than 20% of players , mostly kids, cheat. I always check the Fide OTB ratings of my opponents whom I suspect and find most of these are unrated or low rated but online they are making moves like GM. The Fide Arena online site has poor monitoring system and we find most of cheaters misusing the site to gain online ratings.
I have been playing over the board chess since about 2010-ish. I do not have a FIDE rating. I am rare in the fact that I play OTB, most chess players don't. The point I am making is that hardly anyone that does play chess has a FIDE rating.
@@robocop6444 it is not about rating only it is also about quality of moves made . When GM level moves are made by an unrated/lower rated player in blitz /rapid game after game ; it raises red flags. What is more evident is these played are mostly young and new and they vanish after getting some rating or getting caught.
@@krishnaprabhakar526 Whats your rating?
Been playing for 4 and a half years
Still no otb rating despite 2300 online rating
Not everyone has a chance to play rated otb tournaments
@@TheMe26 it is firstly about suspected moves then about rating . One can always detect difference about human moves and computer moves and if someone dishes out computer moves one after another at certain time intervals; it means he/she is cheating.
so he saying
he didn't think the bathroom gate were cheating, just as now he does not think Newman is..
I'm a chess player (very low elo or as I call it my elol....). here is my question to anyone: Why can't the suspected winning opponent's entire game be compared to the engine's responses to the "loser's" moves and see if, in some consistent way, they match the suspected player's moves?
That is basically what they try to do; if you've ever seen the term "accuracy" that is pretty much what you're talking about. But it's not simple. For one thing, there is not "the engine"...there's lots of different engines and lots of ways to run them that would produce different results, esp. if they're only being used on positions that high level players find tricky.
Also there are things other than "tell me the next move" that would be advantageous cheating. For example just a signal whether you are in a winning or a losing position, or a signal that there is a critical move somewhere on the board. So cheat detection also involves comparing to other humans and/or to past play to try and identify "abnormal" patterns.
Exactly! Carlson cracked. It wasn't that Neiman was cheating, it was Carlson made mistakes and couldn't handle it. So to save face, Carlson said Neimann cheated. Just take the L and say Neimann took advantage of his opportunities and do better next game.
Well, even if you're a top-class player, if you suspect your opponent is cheating, that does tend to distract you a bit.
Gukesh D!
Buzz..
Good points
OTB accusations against Hans Niemann are outright false. With the online part, I do feel sad that this guy has cheated, but he says that he stopped cheating as it caused great guilt and personal problems, so I believe that. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
he lied about online stuff aswell
Magnus is on record saying that NIemann has cheated more often than he admitted and in recent times. There are concealable devices that can be used to cheat OTB. Technology is so advanced now with miniaturisation that this is not so fantastic as you make it seem. How do you know its "outright false"?
@@vvenkat111 you can't hang anyone without solid proof, you can not execute anyone on mere suspicion. You can not conclude someone guilty just because the person was guilty before. If you are to accuse someone guilty for a second time, that person has to be proven guilty the second time as well and not just by the mere fact that he was guilty before. That's not how it works. Hans is a good player and Carlsen thinks he can't be beaten legit by anyone. Accusations are farce if there is no proof and so far nobody could prove a damn thing against Hans except feebly pointing out some rare cheating in his childhood days. I sympathize with Hans who is almost a teenager still. Carlsen is using his influence in the game to destroy the career of potentially his future nemesis which he could sense so that he remains unchallenged in times to come and win more titles.
@@vvenkat111 magnus saying means nothing to a neutral person , if u can't proove that he cheated , then Nieman is innocent thats just how it works .
ever heard about beads in the ass moreover like butt plugs?
Sad Nikhil Kamath noises 0:41
If cheating is so rampant in other sports how can chess be different. Someone should do a polygraph test on Kasparov and Carlsen.
anand for fide president
I do respect Indian culture an I admire how smart Indian people can be but... there is rampant cheating in chess!
India has VERY bad reputation!
Maybe India shoud start clearing their "chess house" to clear world of chess from cheaters?
I guess you are living in the nether world. Ask any top GM or listen to their videos and you will realize how much they praise the chess talent India has.
Indira Gandhi interviews V Anand.
Nobody there
wow
i have to close my 3 Tabs to make sure I'm not listening to robot AI voice....
Zerodha gambit
❤
I bet Carlsen also cheated atleast once, online.
Man, GM Anand body-slammed Magnus lmao, good stuff
but he didnt and didnt try to
Did we even watch the same video or you just want to force your narrative and bias ?
Vishy completely neutral in this video, neither attack hans nor magnus.
He even said that he dont know the best solution and hope the investigation commitee from fide can produce good result and consistent all the time
@@aivenchris3888 well, he said it was likely paranoid and he thought GM Niemann played well but not unusually...
@@AG-ld6rv no he didnt
Nikhil Kamath fraudster
0:41 Yeah people condemn Nikhil for prank cheating Vishy but not Alex Botez who prank cheated Andrea Botez too.
It was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
How come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So we're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or against Nikhil?
Karyakaram.
Known .
Indian way.
Pasha and daba
lol very funny what GM Anand said cause India is world's capital of chess cheaters and phone call scammers!
He IS so naive!
btw I am FIDE rated player (I have won some local tournamens ) and while I am playing online against an Indian players I am 80% sure I play against cheater. Sad but true.
Cheating is just a way of life in India.
Then come to India and play OTB tournaments. You will be destroyed by 8 - 10 yr old kids. Just because you aren't talented enough, you condemn an entire nation and race. Horrible. Most Indian Kids & Indians playing serious chess are very passionate about the game and think of it as their professional career and wouldn't think of cheating. Of course, bad fish exist in every ocean & India is no exception but the level of cheating by Indian players online is probably 90% lesser than the rest of the world. Prove your worth by playing OTB in India & experience the unbelievable talent that India has & you will never again say that Indians are cheating online.
@@reginaldforthright805 hahaha...much lesser than most parts of the world.
Main Tumhen challenge deta hun
The audience, by and large, has no clue what is he talking about.
if something in mankind is for sure, than that if there is a way to cheat than there will be cheating. I wonder why the chess community is so naive.
First comment
0:41 (edited) Yeah people condemn Nikhil for prank cheating Vishy but not Alex Botez who prank cheated Andrea Botez too.
It was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
How come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So we're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or against Nikhil?
Use real account scammer 🤡🤡🤡
Disrespecting a 5 time world champion, the first grandmaster of your country, #1 player in the country and one of the greatest chess players of all time by using a chess engine to defeat him in a charity match watched by thousands of people is a joke to you?
You had asked me a while ago if English was my first language because I, supposedly, failed to understand a joke in the comments. I want to ask you if you have the common sense to differentiate between a prank and an insult of a magnitude this large, because you certainly DO NOT know what a joke is.
@@siddhantjhaveri because it was a prank not a serious tournament game. There's no money at stake, and there's no way anyone would believe Nikhil would've won without cheating.
You didn't answer about Alex and Andrea Botez: how come Alex and Andrea just laugh about it and no one in the audience is angry that Alex pranked Andrea? So you're allowed to prank only your relatives?
Btw given it was a charity stream did this prank cause LESS money to be given to poor people? Or MORE money? Sounds like it causes drama to attract more people so overall MORE money will be donated to poor people rather than LESS.
So for those poor people who get more money from nihkil's prank do you think they side with Nikhil? Or with you?
@@nicbentulan this isn't about "money at stake". This is about sportsmanship and only sportsmen will understand.
@@nicbentulan Alex & Andrea are family members.
Anand is a 5 time World champ and have no relation with Nikhil Kamnath.
No need of doing some stupid prank.
Why would anyone ask this dumb Question??
A leopard is a leopard. - the probability of cheating is100% plausible. Now forget about the past but watch his post game analysis, it was suspiciously outrageous.
Give the best PLAYER - in the world the benefit of the doubt.
Kids, This is why you don't listen to failures like Anand!
Shut up meg
Cope
hahaha..what a failure Anand has been..LOL. He has been 5 times world champion.
When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too eg against Alireza 2019, Danya 2021 and Nepo 2021.
Part0. Intro
Magnus, unlike Ash Ketchum, was never the world champion. Wesley is the inaugural world champion and has been from 2019 to PRESENT. Wesley did not lose in a game to Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct. Wesley did not lose the title to Hikaru same as how Bobby Fischer did not lose the title to Anatoly Karpov because of the conditions FIDE gave that were unfavourable for the AMERICANS Bobby and Wesley. Does FIDE have something against Americans? (They had only 1 non-European president, a Filipino/Filipina/Philippine.)
Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
Part1. Talent
Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley has veen the most talented since 2019 in being thr only world champion since 2019. (Hikaru is the RAPID world champion.) Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 2019. Then Magnus lost 3-1 to Nepo in 2022 and thus indirectly lost 3-1 to Hikaru. LOL.
Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
9LX = pure talent
Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview St Louis that Bobby or Garry is greatest of all time. Even if Magnus is greatest of all time, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT - most talented of all time.
Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
Aaaaaand now in 2022 Magnus wasn't even 2nd place. LOL!!!!
9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet in 2019 Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!! And look now in 2022 Magnus lost 3-1 to Nepo despite beating Nepo 4-0 in the 2021 WCC (where Magnus cheated against Nepo). And of course consequently Magnus indirectly lost 3-1 to Hikaru. Also Magnus should be better in rapid than classical re Sergey 2016 and Fabi 2018. Yet 2nd 2019 and 3rd 2022. LOL.
Part2: Magnus is a coward because:
2.1 - FIDE's 9LX WC in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 WCCs do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. (And Vishy from 2008-2013.) Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley.
2.2 - They lowered the time controls. The 2019 time controls are 35% higher than the 2022 time controls. Magnus obviously has a higher advantage in rapid since Magnus was rapid WCC and reached 2900 in rapid.
Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey Karjakin!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
See? It happened again. FIDE and Magnus were being cowards running away from Wesley. But it backfired on them becauss they didn't expect Nepo is more talented than Magnus. But I already knew it: Nepo lost only 3x to Wesley and drew with Wesley in 2022 St Louis while Magnus lost 4x to Wesley and lost to Wesley in 2020 St Louis.
9LX saynoto2900
Part3. Cheating
Magnus cheated 3x
3.1 - with David Howell against Danya Naroditsky
3.1A - in the lichess thing.
3.1B - in relationships. Lol.
3.2 - Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting Alireza. Yes Magnus spoke in Norwegian on own turn BUT AFTER punching clock continued to talk on Alireza's turn.
3.3 - Magnus cheated against Nepo in 2021 WCC with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
Magnus is like the cheaters Tigran V Petrosian and Tigran L Petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley So and Bobby Fischer. Also Garry Kasparov cheated against Judit Polgar by touch move. See? Magnus copied Garry. Lol. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
See "magnus carlsen gaslighting".
Part4. More on talent and then stuff about Hans Niemann
Quote 1:
After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
Which is better for your mental health?
Quote 2:
Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.
Wesley So is the most TALENTED currently even though Magnus is the GREATEST currently. Thank you Bobby Fischer for helping us realise how TALENTED Wesley is.
Wesley So is far from the greatest currently or of all time. HOWEVER WESLEY SO IS THE MOST TALENTED CURRENTLY AND POSSIBLY OF ALL TIME (well maybe next to Bobby Fischer). MTOAT VS GOAT.
BUT WE WOULDN'T REALLY KNOW IF FIDE DOESN'T GIVE US CLASSICAL 9LX OR AT LEAST 45MIN 9LX.
What of a joke so-called world championship in Iceland recently. Congrats to Hikaru who became the RAPID 9LX world champion. Ok fine Wesley won in SLOW RAPID not classical, but don't believe FIDE when they tell you 25min-for-30moves is slow rapid. It is FAST RAPID.
Wesley never lost the title to Hikaru, same as how Bobby Fischer never lost the title to Anatoly Karpov. FIDE was being cowardly in 1975 and is being cowardly in 2022. Lol. FIDE lowers the time controls wanting Magnus to win just as chessc*m kicked out Hans Niemann because FIDE / chessc*m wants to please Magnus. Lol. Magnus not only cheats (eg against Alireza, Danya and Nepo) but also manipulates chess entities into hurting American players (Hans and Wesley) for Magnus' benefit. Civil conspiracy and ra()sm. LOL.
I already said in this post
Title:
Parallel between Hans and Fischer Random 2022? After Magnus quits the event Sinquefield Cup / WCC, the entity chesscom / FIDE takes action, against an American, that is advantageous to Magnus, for another event: Remove Hans CGC. / Announce FRC with lower time controls, giving Wesley a disadvantage.
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ydwn2y
Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans?
Part A.
A.1 - Hans Niemann (+ Hans' coach) is American.
A.2 - Wesley So 'completely obliterated' (as agadmator said) Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0. Magnus was 'deeply ashamed'.
A.3 - Bobby Fischer invented 9LX, which Magnus sucks at. Look at the low ratings Magnus gave of Bobby in that world champions ranked series.
A.4 - Actually, the above 3, Hans Niemann, Wesley So and Bobby Fischer are like Beth Harmon: Each is 'a prodigy, had a rather dark childhood and is American'. Their stories about overcoming their struggles in childhood are very inspirational. Magnus rated The Queen's Gambit ONLY 5 out of 6.
Part B.
But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
B.1 - Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
B.2 - Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'.
B.3 - Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
Part C.
Additional:
C.1 - Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
C.2 - Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'. (However now Hikaru and Magnus are allies re Hans. Hikaru is a traitor to the US.)
C.3 - Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
C.4 - Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move. (Btw papabotez told me that both Andrea and Alex are dual citizens contrary to what Wikipedia said at the time.)
C.5 - St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
C.6 - Also there was that thing with Maurice Ashley.
Part D.
Updates:
D.1
Look up
'Is Magnus against Americans (joke theory)? Kostya Kavutskiy replies in Twitch. (2022Sep)'
D.2
I was told
'Magnus, like most Scandinavians, probably feels like America is a bit of a barbaric country.' - NM John Chernoff aka zugaddict from lichess and reddit (moderator of r/TournamentChess ) aka GargleBlaster from chessc*m told me in chat in 2022Sep.
D.3
Americans had won 4 tournaments in 9LX in a row from 2019Nov to 2022Sep, namely FIDE 2019, St Louis 2020, St Louis 2021 and St Louis 2022. Then there's a European in 2nd place. (Of course this extended to 5 tournaments with FIDE 2022Oct. But to be fair Magnus is the only European winner namely in 2020 tied Hikaru.)
D.4
This is what oprocyona, woke moralist told me:
Many decisions in tournament chess are made to favor the player that brings in the most sponsorship dollars and views, which is undoubtedly Magnus. There's also no doubt that Magnus generally dislikes americans- he said so on one of the Magnus effect podcast episodes.
Here's the link I was given: Magnus Effect episode 2 - 20 Best Ways to Introduce Yourself
As for tournament decisions, see 'Parallel between Hans and Fischer Random 2022?' (see ydwn2y )
Note: This post is not (completely) serious. (see yev3a1 )
Magnus 🐐
@@rohandalvi8045 how can you be GOAT when you're a TALENTLESS patzer who crumbles without opening prep, are a ra()st and a cheater?
Copium overdose again
@@thedumbestmedicoever4141 copium for what? wesley IS the world champion. (hikaru is the world rapid champion. magnus was never the world champion.)
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The amount of games Nieman has over 90 are insane. Bobby Fischer has zero ever… Magnus only has two.
It’s not statistically impossible but it’s so incredibly unlikely.
It’s like someone can win the lottery twice. It’s not statistically impossible but it’s incredibly unlikely.