That's a shame. He had the opportunity to play with one of the greatest mind of chess this generation and he cheated. Doesn't matter if your rich, you don't cheat in chess. You copy bong cloud and you hang your queen on the sixth move. and you blame levy for not teaching uploading enough chess principles. that's how you play. :P
I played a GM once in a simul. I didn't cheat. he told me (after his victory, of course) that I was one of the tougher nuts to crack. I never felt better after losing a game of chess. If I had cheated that day, I'd think back to that in shame. Now I can thing back to that day with pride.
@@thetoughguy5831 luckily for me the absolute maximum is just under double the elo xD but yeah, I asbsolutely get the point. Every game against a much stronger opponent is a huge opportunity to learn. That's why I love playing vs chess engines, every single weakness will be exploited.
actually beating him as an 800 rated player makes one look way dumber than losing, because he is so bad he doesn't realise he has 0% chance to win. He probably thought people would think he is some sort of genius, but doesn't realise no one can play like that without a lot of training.
This was not cool, as an Indian chess lover felt really sad when Vishy resigned. Levy, watching your videos since a year, it's very very clear, NEVER Cheat at CHESS! Otherwise what's the point 🙏
Viswanathan Anand resigned when he had 7 mins on clock just to expose Nikhil so that this issue could get into more limelight. No other move would have got the guy in as much trouble as resigning did. It was a masterstroke by vishy as Nikhil's plan was to outplay Vishy and get flagged in the end. Vishy on the other hand, had something else planned in his mind...
Funny story ... I played a 2400 in one of my games I was1600. I was white. After 24 moves in a sicilian. He won, he complimented my game and analyzed a few moves. I was thrilled. That's what Nikhil will never have.
This is how insecure Nikhil is: He cheats at chess to not appear stupid. Then when he realizes how profoundly stupid that was, he deflects the blame to everyone else by basically saying "If you for even one move believed I was for real, you are the moron in this situation. How you feel about this is actually your fault, because you were not smart enough to just know I was going to cheat. Might even be your fault that I chose to cheat." What a sad man.. Oh well.
What i find funny from this is the whole purpose of him cheating. He needs to find a way to maintain his pride in order to boast his ego but made himself look like a pathetic loser to the chess world instead.
@@ARandomSpace That's not an excuse to admit defeat before even playing someone. And to top it all, even considering it to be a privilege. I would hate to lose to anyone be it the current world champion or my neighbor. Granted that the probability of me winning will correlate with my opponent's ability but what's the point of playing if I don't want to win?
That was an interesting match. You could tell how nervous Gates was. It's pretty cool when the richest man in the world recognizes his inferiority to some young dude from Norway. There's no reason to be nervous unless you respect Magnus and unless you respect chess. My respect for Gates went up even though he crashed and burned in the game.
That would probably happen if it weren't a simul and vishy has focus all his attention on that particular game, especially bcuzhe deliberately made an error on move 1 and i think the engine he uses is probably not the highest level like the 3550 stockfish. More like the ones you can use on a phone 2800 stockfish
Vishy resigning was such a good move by him. he doesnt need to call him a cheater, he does just enough to make the situation obvious to everyone outstanding move
"In this position vishy played the only winning move in order to show that nikhil was cheating, the chess engine calls this resign a brilliant move but can't understand the true big brain moment of this"
This is the most pertinent question. From what I understand his company is not really known to be an ethical company, then again most fintech companies these days are like that. He runs a discount brokerage firm, whenever there are big movements in the market his customers find it real hard to make important trades, some say this is a capacity issue others say this is often intentional reason being his company being in with those likely to benefit. As someone who has had some experience with some other similar firms I lean more towards the latter explanation.
@@randomrandom316 "these days". Companies have never been ethical in human history. The richest people in the world have always been earning their wealth by screwing over the workers in every way imaginable, all why cheating in various ways. If you think that it is only today's companies are unethical you need a history lesson. In 19th century, people were working 12 hours per day, in terrible working conditions, no safety, no days off, no health care, no anything while their employers were swimming in money and while their employers would buy the politicians to implement the laws that they want and lobby the politicians to go to wars with other countries (see banana wars for instance).
I'm a 1600 player and once I defeated a FM in a bullet game, not just by time flag, a real positional win. That was the second greatest day in my amateur chess journey, because the greatest day was when I had the chance to play Hikaru and get slaughtered in like 10 moves. It was awesome.
That's awesome! Can I see the games if you are okay with that? I also play chess (2150 lichess blitz, around 1900 chesscom blitz), I've only beat a FM on time flag once, got a draw before too, never got a chance to play a GM even once although been playing chess 20+ years. Beat NM almost a dozen times though, only a couple in real life OTB though.
Vishy is one of the nicest people in chess. His commentary, his games, and his longevity are all beyond elite and he is one of the best chess minds of all time and probably everyone on earth can learn something from him. You dont get that opportunity very often. And to cheat during your one and probably only opportunity is very sad.
The problem is that he doesn't give a a F about Anand and he doesn't think that its an opportunity and its because he is an effing BILLIONAIRE He doesn't have to be concerned about some board game. Having said that I think what he did was wrong but its understandable to some degree as to why did he cheat
@@mhqa_ He cares so much about his reputation, he cares so much this board game that he resorts to cheating. If he doesnt care at all he would have played for fun. That's the point.
The other side of the coin here is that this incident revealed why people love and admire Vishy - he has so much class, integrity, and grace. Forget the cheaters, they only made themselves look small and insecure, while Anand came out looking like the champion he is.
A wise man once said, “even if you apologise, people still might throw rocks at you, but if your apology is shit, they try to find a sharp rock to throw so it hurts more”
@@nicbentulan see the stream. He didnt look at all happy after the win. Just sat their with a unhappy face and mostly kept quiet. But took credit for the win with a few weak comments.
He's youngest billionaire in India therefore he just wanted to fool people into believing that he's smart AF but it turned out to be his biggest blunder.
This was charity, it was all done for content and getting more viewers. I can't disagree with that "cheating". It was so obvious that I seriously don't want to believe a billionaire is that dumb to think he could even get away. He definitely intended to get caught but at least get lots of viewers for the charity event. I've seen other streamers even throw for content during chess tournaments, where they blatantly state they actually threw for content, because it will get more views, I've also seen Hikaru throw a queen for content. This is pretty common, I dunno why they are so butthurt, the guy even stated in a tweet he could never beat the champion obviously.
@@yunsha9986 This is what I assumed when I heard this. You're doing this for charity, you're doing this for more views, you're doing this for content. Now, if Vishy wasn't informed ahead of time, that's a bit scummy. But IIRC Nikhil got scholars mated like a week before this, so for him to lose that early in a game to a classic strategy and then go on to play like this isn't even trying to hide. It's just trying to entertain. bottom line though, if that was going to happen, then everyone involved needed to know.
It's kinda funny to me the rationalizations some people are willing to make to defend the scummy actions of random billionaires. He didn't do it for charity, just attention. He has billions of dollars to donate if he wants to support charity, not whatever this stunt was.
@@yunsha9986 "Throwing" vastly different from not upholding the moral values of the game man. He just did it for attention/his own amusement. Pretty damn sure he wasn't doing that with charity in mind.
I think the saddest part about this story is that this was at a charity event. What Nikhil did was incredibly shameless and it's sad that he deflected the blame and didn't properly apologize for what he did.
"...the graciousness of Anand to treat the games as a learning experience." Yes, and i'm sure Vishy was deeply honoured and humbled that the billionaire took the time out to assist in the 5 times world champ's chess education.
I can see “I accidentally took steroids because my trainer fed them to me” actually happening, but I’ve never heard of “my opponent was glad about my steroid use and thought I could learn from it.”
Viswanathan Anand resigning is a Big brain move, if he had flagged the guy some people would've been satisfied "hah, lost even after cheating" but by deliberately losing he shined a spotlight on this event and brought in the most attention
While it's certainly true that Vishy sir figured out his opponent was cheating, I doubt he resigned to "expose" the cheat. He is one of the most graceful players and human beings, he saw his position was lost and resigned. Nothing more, nothing less. Even if his opponent had 0.1 second on the clock and was _not_ cheating, that's what he would have likely done.
He should have just played Magnus's Bong cloud opening, lost horribly, and then publicly state that he didn't understand how he lost he was playing the current Meta. Or if he absolutely had to cheat to not get humiliated, throw the game at some point, turn the engine off and Vishy stomps him just by being outright better.
@@AbhishekKumar-de2dj you're defending his half-assed apology? who's the fish exactly? No he doesn't care about the chess community as demonstrated by the complete lack of understanding of the impact of cheating in a charity event. It's only the social media backlash that he understands. It's not going to be at all embarrassing for him.
@@AbhishekKumar-de2dj to summarize, he's a narcissist, he doesn't have the ability to feel embarrassment. In his mind, everyone is to blame except himself.
@KEEP UP TheBeat But he chose to respect the chess board and position by choosing to resign in "losing game AS EVALUATED BY THE ENGINE". True class of Vishy Sir.🙏🙏👏
if vishy would have flagged and won then all of this wouldn't have happened and Nikhil would have got away after cheating. i think vishy very well knew players who used unfair means because of his comments on games later
Resigning was a God move by Vishy, imo. If Vishy flagged him, that guy would probably go and brag to his rich friends how he got an amazing winning position against the legend himself and how he would have beaten Vishy if not for the effed up time situation.
Every time these billionaires meet with politicians to tilt government policy in their favor they are cheating. How do you think they become billionaires in the first place? Imagine seating a poker table trying to play with someone who constantly gets favors from the dealer.
You don't acquire a billion dollars through honest means. You acquire it by leveraging the power you already have to accumulate more power, rinse, and repeat.
In an attempt to Not Look Foolish, I think Nikhil Kamath shows how profoundly foolish he is for thinking the chess community of the World would not figure this out.
Lol more foolish that a 400 rated will play move with this tactical understanding 🤣. At last he proved he a jerk and people should get out trading through his company because he will cheat you anyway.
Exactly. As an Indian, I'm embarrassed and ashamed that we have such disgusting people with such disgusting mindset in our country. Also, during the post-match interview, Nikhil wasn't even interested to discuss the game(for obvious reasons). For so many of us chess lovers in India, it's still a dream to just meet Vishwanath Anand, let alone play an entire game. This dude got the chance to do so, and messed up. Pathetic. But on the other hand, we also got to witness the greatness of our beloved Vishy Sir when he resigned, and also when he didn't want to be involved in this controversy. For me he won the game. In fact he would have won if this wasn't a simul. People should also be talking about this, how Vishy Sir was able to put up a 92% accuracy game against an engine in a simul 💯💯🔥. Legend ❤️❤️.
Vishy shows how he's the bigger person here He could've flagged, he could've even accused nikhil of cheating, (my man nikhil lost to a 800 the day before) but he didn't, he was the bigger man and resigned. He even said that it was okay if the other players flagged him, but it was childish if he would've done it. Respect vishy ✌️
@@sgt391 Nah, I don't think he resigned to bring this to spotlight. Vishy is old school (read, idealistic) in situations such as these...and even if his opponent was not cheating, I think he would have resigned, as positionally, he was lost. That's just the kind of person he is.
The funniest part of the “excuse” is the similitude with 100m against bolt. I mean he got the concept right but did the opposite. If you get beaten in chess(even with scholar mate) doesn’t mean you are stupid. Like all thing in life chess need practice, experience and creativity. I mean there are videos of bill Gates playing chess against Magnus with time odds and I didn’t hear anybody call Bill stupid after losing. If you are soo concern about people judging your intelligence, for trying and fail in a unusual activity for you, that u need to cheat I guess would have been a much more elegant figure to just be checkmated in 3 moves.
OR played a really good fighting game where he nearly defeated Vishy, but blundered in the end and lost! In order to succed in life sou have to take your chances, not throw them away!
My take is that the cheater’s first move and loss of pawn was deliberate and designed - this way one would not get 100% accuracy, right Mr. Billionaire?
@@waltgrisly509 clearly he doesn't have much of a brain by your logic then, because all that will come out of this for him is bad publicity. he gains nothing and stands to lose at least a little in terms of future business partners, etc obv there wont be any real consequences, but it was still a stupid decision through and through. logically it makes no sense (if you think it through even a little) so it had to have been for his ego
@@phenix2403 seriously... There's no such thing as bad publicity (unless you murder someone or commit other serious crimes). Literally nobody but some chess players care about cheating in an inconsequential chess game, most people dont even know you can cheat in chess. Now imagine being a business that wants a partner or a sponsor/investor and you hear about this young billionaire. He has tons of money and willingness to spend them, but hey, he cheated in some stupid board game so I definitely wont take his millions. Yeah, that sounds reasonable...
@@akshunnadevansh5531 I hear what you are saying.. but the broader point here is that when Nikhil shows poor judgement, it probably isn't just in chess. This is just a natural conclusion. You can't just accidentally cheat in chess.. you actually have to organize what you do to make that happen. So this wasn't capricious, but calculated and very intentional.
Imagine you're in a fund raising marathon for fighting against famine with Eliud Kipchoge and you take a motorcycle ride off camera and then you finish first place. How would you feel.
It really feels like Nikhil is trying to pass this off like “I didn’t cheat, it’s an open secret I was using a computer”. I doubt he would have admitted to using a computer had he not been caught.
If he was sure that people will know, he could have cleared it up in after game discussion rather than waiting for all this drama to play out. I guess he said that I got lucky.
He was dumb, chess has negligible luck factor, you may get a mouseslip lucky but you'll never get a 600 player defeats a 2700 player in an one hour game lucky.
The mindset of the super rich. For many, many years.... this is exactly what I have seen from people with money. They don't care if they cheat. They have money. They feel entitled. Their mindset is completely different than what is to be considered normal. Their apology will always be hollow. Because they are the Super Rich and that makes them feel they are above all others.
@@suyashsingh9865 merit can make you comfortably wealthy, but you dont become a billionaire from zero without cheating others. Taking advantage of workers, investing in shady businesses, lobbying and manipulating others, etc.
Don't be weird dude. Anyone can cheat, regardless of age, status or wealth. It isn't about being super rich or anything like that. What you're saying is just weird...
Nikhil’s damage control strategy was essentially to call everyone an idiot for suggesting there was a remote possibility he acted honestly. Incredible.
It's honestly sad that this stupid billionaire is what the chess community will remember of the amazing stream that was attended by freaking Aamir Khan and Arijit Singh..
The "I'm a billionaire so I'm going to cheat so I don't look a fool and then be unapologetic when I get caught out" attitude he showed reminds me of someone and makes me think he might be capable of becoming president one day
The "learning" excuse doesn't even make sense. What do you learn from just following what a computer tells you to do? You learn far more from making mistakes.
He also did not use the word "computer" but "computers" and surrounded the word with "people analyzing the game" and "graciousness of Anand sir himself" as other forms of assistance to reduce focus from the actual and only assistance which was Stockfish.
And this my friends is the difference between owning a shitload of money and owning a good character. Having the balls to apologize if you fucked something up (which is perfectly human) is something no money can buy.
from someone who "understands" chess but doesn't really play much, it's nice to at least see HOW people get caught based on the moves they're making. It's interesting to see the "this is the best move they could make here" with an explanation as to why.
Mad props, Levy, mad props for putting a focus on _not_ publicly shaming people (or "burying people into the ground", as you put it) and generally on making things better. We humans are a contentious bunch and tend to waste far too much energy on making things _worse_ for people we _don't_ like, when we should be making things _better_ for people we _do_ like.
Chess cheaters completely ruin the fun of chess. I have faced many cheaters before, and many of them don’t even get punished. You have to be down bad to choose to cheat in a board game.
I have also lost to cheaters many times. They play honestly in most of their games at 20-70% accuracy but sometimes they make someone their victim and play at 99% accuracy.
@@graysongoss8500 hahahah yes it is....this was the last match left...Vishy had won on all other boards....and still Vishy had 9 mins left and nikhil had 13 secs and Vishy resigned....I think nikhil wanted to loose on time and get the upper ground that he had a completely winning position.... Let me tell you another fact...2 of the other boards also seemed like using engines they were playing perfect moves upto the endgame and only lost when they started making their own moves and as soon as the level of play went down Vishy snatched the win....so basically Vishy was playing against 3 engines in a simul with 5-6 players and still win every game apart from this
It's kinda weird for Anand to try to flag him... If Anand played Magnus in this position he would resign, so why wouldn't he resign when playing someone much better than Magnus, i.e. the engine? If Anand tries to flag Nikhil that's just like admitting Nikhil is cheating, but what's the point of playing if your opponent is cheating?
9:07 at this stage Vishy had like 9 minutes and Nikhil had 15 seconds...Vishy could have easily flagged Nikhil but instead he resigned. And by the way Samay didn't organise that event Levy.
As a relatively new comer to chess, it's considered lucky for me to first learn GM Vishy Anand in this event, by resigning respectfully to a cheater, although he had lost this particular chess game on the board, he had won a place in my heart. That is a move that only a true CHAMPION is able to do. Huge RESPECT to GM Vishy Anand.
In his tweet he said I can't believe so many people think I actually defeated him. So what did you defeat him for? To make people think you defeated him right? Dumb moment 🤣
The non-apology and the feeling of needing to look good consistently at all times will earn him some looks and meme mockery for years to come. And he deserves all of it. He's not sorry, he's sorry he got caught LOL. I mean what can you even do to this, it's not anything serious. It's just a "really dude?" moment. Dude clowned himself multiple times. That's all there is to it really.
He doesn't even seem sorry to be caught. I don't see any genuine regret/remorse here at all. It looks like he genuinely doesn't care about the chess community and his integrity because at the end of the day he's still a billionaire.
@@aesaphyr I think he probably honestly doesn’t care at all. Since this gonna have no long term impact on him. People in chess community might remember this for quite a while, but anyone else will just forget by next week.
Opinions are ok. Politics are not. There is a difference that Levy doesn't seem to understand. Love him tho still even tho I don't agree with his politics.
What Nitin Kamath said reminds me of the time when Coca-Cola claimed that 'no reasonable person could be misled into thinking' that one of their drinks was healthy, wanna know the name of their drink? 'vitaminwater'... The corporate world and it's irony never ceases to amaze me
You do realize by stating this you are reinforcing the idea that the should be afraid of losing fans right. Your takinghis opinion that he wants his opinions not to matter and saying that’s why your his fan. That’s just as bad.
Jeez, the entire point of events like this is to go and get humiliated while people drop some money. This shows a very vulnerable ego that a man can't play a role of a fool for a greater cause
In fact losing to anand doesn't really prove you fool. I mean cmon, the entire world lost to him 5 years in total. Kasparov, kramnik, Tal and other legends also lost to him. Even carlsen lost to him. And they aren't fools either. Sheer disrespect to the legend
You gotta acknowledge Vishy tho, 93% accuracy against an engine, that's insane play by him, even in a simul
True. Scary though how a super GM can do that.
And he could've played for a flag.
Only 13 seconds was remaining for Vishy 's opponent
Yeah Vishy is probably the worst player ever.
@@JimmyDaGent796 tf
That's a shame. He had the opportunity to play with one of the greatest mind of chess this generation
and he cheated.
Doesn't matter if your rich, you don't cheat in chess.
You copy bong cloud and you hang your queen on the sixth move.
and you blame levy for not teaching uploading enough chess principles.
that's how you play. :P
Indeed, even offering a draw on move 3 could make more sense.
Pa kiss nico david
Exactly, other good moves he could do is blame lag. Or blame the clock cause he didn't have enough time also reasonable.
To draw or not to draw. Winning is out of the question.
To many memes....!
"It's ridiculous to think i'd actually rob a bank."
-a guy caught robbing a bank
"It was just a prank bro"
"It's ridiculous to think that I'd make that money myself"
Thats essentially the essence of what he said
@@PandaFan2443 😂
@@goobs13 yeah this is more accurate
@@PandaFan2443 laughed hard
Thanks for comments 😆
I played a GM once in a simul.
I didn't cheat.
he told me (after his victory, of course) that I was one of the tougher nuts to crack.
I never felt better after losing a game of chess.
If I had cheated that day, I'd think back to that in shame. Now I can thing back to that day with pride.
Everyone can say he can beat a GM
I love playing with people that is like 10 times my elo to show how much I suck at the game of chess lol
Great comment
@@MelocotondrilAmelocotonado thank you, sir!
@@thetoughguy5831 luckily for me the absolute maximum is just under double the elo xD but yeah, I asbsolutely get the point. Every game against a much stronger opponent is a huge opportunity to learn. That's why I love playing vs chess engines, every single weakness will be exploited.
Vishy chose the best way to embarrass the cheater, he resigned.
Legends
where is the real levent?
@@cz19856 He's banned from this channel. I'm his alt.
Even with 13 sec down. When Nikhil was wasting his time.
@@LeventButSpeedrunning why is your main banned?
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Samay bhai❤️
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Bhai aapka stream kyu band ho Gaya beech mein
Only Abish Mathew can tackle the legendary Zerodha gambit
Maybe Nikhil should have realised that no one looks “dumb” losing to someone like Vishy.
He's a Super GM and one of the best chess players in the world for Lord's sake
@@gene_0630 Even getting the chance to play against him is a huge honour.
@@ravenwzxeh exactly. You have the opportunity to play one of the best of all time and you use a damn computer. I dont get it.
@@Fluxion11 Yeah.
actually beating him as an 800 rated player makes one look way dumber than losing, because he is so bad he doesn't realise he has 0% chance to win. He probably thought people would think he is some sort of genius, but doesn't realise no one can play like that without a lot of training.
I still don't understand what kind of ego that guy had. Carlsen beat Bill Gates in 9 moves and they were so cool with it.
what if carlsen would let bill beat him in 2?
It's funny because literally no one would fault you for losing badly to a GM.
@@Circaman8 Yeah I mean they’re Gm’s for a reason.
I was a computer simulation of Magus at a young age. I don't remember the age, but was very young.
that's what happens when you get born into wealth
When your are a Billionaire but don't have enough money to buy Gotham chess courses
Lmaoooooooo
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Levy please pin this
Lol😂😂
Alternate Title: Vishy vs Fishy
Freaking hilarious pun😂😂😂😂
Get out. 😆
Lmfao
Lmao
Lol😂😂
This was not cool, as an Indian chess lover felt really sad when Vishy resigned.
Levy, watching your videos since a year, it's very very clear, NEVER Cheat at CHESS! Otherwise what's the point 🙏
But that shows how much of gentleman is vishy that he resigned and didn't flagged him
Viswanathan Anand resigned when he had 7 mins on clock just to expose Nikhil so that this issue could get into more limelight. No other move would have got the guy in as much trouble as resigning did.
It was a masterstroke by vishy as Nikhil's plan was to outplay Vishy and get flagged in the end. Vishy on the other hand, had something else planned in his mind...
Didn't expect my finance guru here
So sir you too are chess fan... Big fan of your videos... Having trouble in EPF recently
Are labour law advisor idhar bhi😂😂
a 400 just casually beating a 5 time world champion and man thought he'd raise no suspicion 💀💀
lol
He was actually 2000
Good gaming mouse
@@Anonymous-8080nah
@@shashishekhar---- back in his old days he played State Championship and was 2000
Funny story ... I played a 2400 in one of my games I was1600. I was white. After 24 moves in a sicilian. He won, he complimented my game and analyzed a few moves. I was thrilled. That's what Nikhil will never have.
It's like getting a chance to take on the heavyweight boxing champion and learn from the experience, and without the brain trauma. Terrible decision.
To a narcissist who can’t stand losing, he wouldn’t give a shit about that experience. He only wanted the bragging rights of winning.
Yeah but if you had won, would the master have been as nice? Lol.
@Braeden Sanders Why are you so bothered by people having interests
@Braeden Sanders that's right. Go outside you homeless freak
Love the last few minutes Levy. Big ups for sharing your opinion and not just "here's what happened."
YEAH, BUT BOOMER WAALI ID SE AAO NA SIR.
Bro can you beat Vishy with Magic?🤔
Arey sir aap bhi chess follow karte ho. Nice! :)
Exactly karaan even u said things on similar lines
Yoo ksm
This is how insecure Nikhil is: He cheats at chess to not appear stupid. Then when he realizes how profoundly stupid that was, he deflects the blame to everyone else by basically saying "If you for even one move believed I was for real, you are the moron in this situation. How you feel about this is actually your fault, because you were not smart enough to just know I was going to cheat. Might even be your fault that I chose to cheat."
What a sad man.. Oh well.
yup deflection by sociopaths who do anything for fame and money
@@iMobinator bro, please please don't defame sociopaths
Lol
What i find funny from this is the whole purpose of him cheating. He needs to find a way to maintain his pride in order to boast his ego but made himself look like a pathetic loser to the chess world instead.
People who mess up big time and when they get caught try to sell it as 'it was a joke' 'i was sarcastic' are the lowest scumbags of earth.
Losing to Vishy would be a privilege for me, not an embarrassment.
That's really sad
@@nesshingakusei6932 Not really. Most of us don't even get a chance to play against a GM.
@@ARandomSpace That's not an excuse to admit defeat before even playing someone. And to top it all, even considering it to be a privilege. I would hate to lose to anyone be it the current world champion or my neighbor. Granted that the probability of me winning will correlate with my opponent's ability but what's the point of playing if I don't want to win?
Yeah, being able to play one is a privilige.
Unironically a thing I would flex
Dewa Kipas: Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary
🤣🤣🤣
At least dewa kipas knew how to play chess. This guy has previous games where he got scholars mated.
Yeah dewa kipas is pure trash as a person
WKWKWKWK
Who is Dewa Kipas again? Sorry, I've been out of the loop with chess for a while.
The fact that Levy has to look into the camera and say “don’t write death threats to someone”, is depressing.
Welcome to present time
thats the internet for you
People are just crazy
Thats our world...
@@Finnyke | this is not a recent thing my guy. People have been sending death threaths for ages
Bill Gates lost with grace against Magnus. All good. Nobody thought he was an idiot
😂😂😂
Coz being billionaire doesn't mean u r good in chess🙄🤷🏻♀️
Bcz it's Bill Gates not someone who wants publicity in any form be it negative.
So true
That was an interesting match. You could tell how nervous Gates was. It's pretty cool when the richest man in the world recognizes his inferiority to some young dude from Norway. There's no reason to be nervous unless you respect Magnus and unless you respect chess. My respect for Gates went up even though he crashed and burned in the game.
He cheated in a friendly chess game for charity, imagine what he have done to become a billionaire
I'm also thinking the same way, maybe also doing sneaky things to become a person he is, including his wealth
You can be a billionaire or a nice guy. Pick one.
@@ivannasha5556 Sad fact but reality speaks.
You cannot have both but you may lost both if you don't decide.
@@ivannasha5556 What about Elon Musk? He is a nice guy and a billionaire.
@@warpdrive9229 dating someone's wife isn't too nice is it
Imagine if Vishy beat him. He would’ve won against a computer and no one would ever know.
He had a chance to win on time but he resigned to expose that cheater.
People would definitely know from the game
No we would know lol
That would probably happen if it weren't a simul and vishy has focus all his attention on that particular game, especially bcuzhe deliberately made an error on move 1 and i think the engine he uses is probably not the highest level like the 3550 stockfish. More like the ones you can use on a phone 2800 stockfish
They would still know he was cheating
Vishy resigning was such a good move by him. he doesnt need to call him a cheater, he does just enough to make the situation obvious to everyone
outstanding move
That's how legends pull reverse cards
"In this position vishy played the only winning move in order to show that nikhil was cheating, the chess engine calls this resign a brilliant move but can't understand the true big brain moment of this"
He could have flag him but he prefer resign what a gentleman this Vishy
His ban got removed 🤣🤣
Anand has and always will be one of the classiest world champions.
if he's willing to cheat at a charity event, I'm afraid to imagine what he's willing to do for his business... 😒
This is the most pertinent question. From what I understand his company is not really known to be an ethical company, then again most fintech companies these days are like that. He runs a discount brokerage firm, whenever there are big movements in the market his customers find it real hard to make important trades, some say this is a capacity issue others say this is often intentional reason being his company being in with those likely to benefit. As someone who has had some experience with some other similar firms I lean more towards the latter explanation.
Being a billionaire is, on its own, an ethically questionable choice.
@@randomrandom316 "these days". Companies have never been ethical in human history. The richest people in the world have always been earning their wealth by screwing over the workers in every way imaginable, all why cheating in various ways. If you think that it is only today's companies are unethical you need a history lesson. In 19th century, people were working 12 hours per day, in terrible working conditions, no safety, no days off, no health care, no anything while their employers were swimming in money and while their employers would buy the politicians to implement the laws that they want and lobby the politicians to go to wars with other countries (see banana wars for instance).
So??
That how Billionaires become billionaires, steal and cheat. Why anyone even surprised?
I'm a 1600 player and once I defeated a FM in a bullet game, not just by time flag, a real positional win. That was the second greatest day in my amateur chess journey, because the greatest day was when I had the chance to play Hikaru and get slaughtered in like 10 moves. It was awesome.
That's awesome! Can I see the games if you are okay with that? I also play chess (2150 lichess blitz, around 1900 chesscom blitz), I've only beat a FM on time flag once, got a draw before too, never got a chance to play a GM even once although been playing chess 20+ years. Beat NM almost a dozen times though, only a couple in real life OTB though.
Bro ! Incredible !
FM?
@@1Eagler Fide Master
HAHAHA what a noob!
Slaughtered in 10 moves? Pathetic!
I got slaughtered in 4 moves!
Vishy is one of the nicest people in chess. His commentary, his games, and his longevity are all beyond elite and he is one of the best chess minds of all time and probably everyone on earth can learn something from him. You dont get that opportunity very often. And to cheat during your one and probably only opportunity is very sad.
The problem is that he doesn't give a a F about Anand and he doesn't think that its an opportunity and its because he is an effing BILLIONAIRE He doesn't have to be concerned about some board game.
Having said that I think what he did was wrong but its understandable to some degree as to why did he cheat
@@mhqa_ if he doesn't care then why did he put his reputation on line and cheat?
@@untitled6391 I think he's just stupid
@@mhqa_ He cares so much about his reputation, he cares so much this board game that he resorts to cheating. If he doesnt care at all he would have played for fun. That's the point.
@@mhqa_ he doesnt have to, but he wanted to beat Anand, resorting to cheating
The billionaire's apology is so bad it makes my apology at grade 2 seem good
It is the ultimate "Haha, mistakes were made" BS
“Mum I promise I won’t steal the cookies again”
Next day: immediately steals the cookies
😂 😂
I mean he's basically an Indian finance bro. Finance bros don't know what an apology is
Hahaa savage 🔥🔥
He blundered the first move to make it look like “there’s no way I could have cheated, you saw my blunder.”
That's like a kid bluffing he isn't cheating
It's obvious lol any normal human being including newbies (except if you don't know they move) will know it's a stupid move
Yes, that's what his big brain came up with.
No that's how he played before they got the engine running.
Yeah, I used to use that trick in third grade lol
The other side of the coin here is that this incident revealed why people love and admire Vishy - he has so much class, integrity, and grace. Forget the cheaters, they only made themselves look small and insecure, while Anand came out looking like the champion he is.
Indeed, very true.
those chess champion 75%-ish is just a humongo calculation
that's why they got that high rating
@@suvahomescape4665 Sometimes I wonder why people try to act smarter than they actually are and make themselves look like idiots
@@thanosnoctem4473 Dumb people tend to think they‘re smart
@@msaocer Yep! As Shakespeare said, "The Fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."
It was in this position that Nikhil decided to buy stocks in the fishing industry
He probably wanted to invest some money into a certain reptile
stonkfish
move 0
He might've phished people on his path to billions.
@TFUS TMULS let’s make a coin out of it stonkfishocoin
A wise man once said, “even if you apologise, people still might throw rocks at you, but if your apology is shit, they try to find a sharp rock to throw so it hurts more”
Who said that?
@@Drogon7102 A wise man
Moral of the story: Don't apologize. Problem solved?
Everybody must get stoned
what a cringey quote.
My take away from that apology:
"Anyone who thought I was playing legitimately is an idiot."
@@nicbentulan see the stream. He didnt look at all happy after the win. Just sat their with a unhappy face and mostly kept quiet. But took credit for the win with a few weak comments.
@@nicbentulan It was a simul. It's not that rare for top players to lose a game or two in a simul.
@@nicbentulan I don't see how this would be humour for you
Everyone's like "well we expected you to"
Sounds like the life mantra of the super wealthy. "I wouldn't be rich if I didn't cheat in life."
He's youngest billionaire in India therefore he just wanted to fool people into believing that he's smart AF but it turned out to be his biggest blunder.
Never ever gonna trade on his brokerage firm. He is a shady fuck.
He is not. Oyo founder is
@@spyboy0076 he lost quite a lot of money due to lockdown so he isn't billionare currently
Instead he made people realise he is a spineless, insecure ego obsessed looser. Pathetic looser
@@spyboy0076 bruhh what?? Open your eyes....
"It's OK because I never intended to get away with it." Intriguing defense...
This was charity, it was all done for content and getting more viewers. I can't disagree with that "cheating". It was so obvious that I seriously don't want to believe a billionaire is that dumb to think he could even get away. He definitely intended to get caught but at least get lots of viewers for the charity event. I've seen other streamers even throw for content during chess tournaments, where they blatantly state they actually threw for content, because it will get more views, I've also seen Hikaru throw a queen for content.
This is pretty common, I dunno why they are so butthurt, the guy even stated in a tweet he could never beat the champion obviously.
@@yunsha9986 This is what I assumed when I heard this. You're doing this for charity, you're doing this for more views, you're doing this for content.
Now, if Vishy wasn't informed ahead of time, that's a bit scummy. But IIRC Nikhil got scholars mated like a week before this, so for him to lose that early in a game to a classic strategy and then go on to play like this isn't even trying to hide. It's just trying to entertain.
bottom line though, if that was going to happen, then everyone involved needed to know.
It's kinda funny to me the rationalizations some people are willing to make to defend the scummy actions of random billionaires. He didn't do it for charity, just attention. He has billions of dollars to donate if he wants to support charity, not whatever this stunt was.
Damage control gambit: Refuted
@@yunsha9986 "Throwing" vastly different from not upholding the moral values of the game man. He just did it for attention/his own amusement. Pretty damn sure he wasn't doing that with charity in mind.
I think the saddest part about this story is that this was at a charity event. What Nikhil did was incredibly shameless and it's sad that he deflected the blame and didn't properly apologize for what he did.
Even sad part was a much more famous celebrity named Kichcha sudeep was also banned. Nobody speak up against him as he is more powerful.
@@Mahesh-uy8jw he has fans like 'boi' ka fans 😂😂
man nikhil's apology is like the chess equivalent of "it's just a prank bro"
Man's didn't even apologize, he literally said "Let me gaslight y'all mfs lul"
@@nicbentulan just imagine cheating on title player just and say i didnt meant to beat
Like the first move is weird and the rating is so weird too lol
@@nicbentulan stop liking your own comments
@@adambest8817 put your imagination away that didn"t happen he apologized lol
@@subarashiikylox kk
just seems like it arent thats all
"...the graciousness of Anand to treat the games as a learning experience."
Yes, and i'm sure Vishy was deeply honoured and humbled that the billionaire took the time out to assist in the 5 times world champ's chess education.
"It was a fun experience upholding the ethics of the game." - Anand
"I learned that billionaires have no concept of ethics." -Anand
"Why can't we have nice things :(" - Anand
Well, it was better for his patience and class to keep composure instead of calling the cheater a bitch
I can see “I accidentally took steroids because my trainer fed them to me” actually happening, but I’ve never heard of “my opponent was glad about my steroid use and thought I could learn from it.”
"I can't believe some people though think I wouldn't take steroids."
Best comment
@@DannySleepwalker 🤣
@@DannySleepwalker HAHAHAHAHA
@@DannySleepwalker nice
he had 13 seconds while Vishy had 8-9 minutes, he could have just flagged him but resigned. Indeed the best move of game by Vishy😁😁.
First case i can think of where resigning was the best strategy for beating your opponent and it worked.
@Sriyans Kumar that would still take time to play.
Just flagging him would have saved the chess world all this drama.
@@psychohist Well but then we wouldn't have seen Nikhil's true colours
@@latentdrax9576 The chess world doesn't give two shits about some random rich fuck in India
Viswanathan Anand resigning is a Big brain move, if he had flagged the guy some people would've been satisfied "hah, lost even after cheating" but by deliberately losing he shined a spotlight on this event and brought in the most attention
While it's certainly true that Vishy sir figured out his opponent was cheating, I doubt he resigned to "expose" the cheat. He is one of the most graceful players and human beings, he saw his position was lost and resigned. Nothing more, nothing less. Even if his opponent had 0.1 second on the clock and was _not_ cheating, that's what he would have likely done.
This is definitely the most embarassing moments of Nikhil's life. He deserved it.
He should have just played Magnus's Bong cloud opening, lost horribly, and then publicly state that he didn't understand how he lost he was playing the current Meta. Or if he absolutely had to cheat to not get humiliated, throw the game at some point, turn the engine off and Vishy stomps him just by being outright better.
LOL you think he gives af about the chess community? he's got f-you money and will keep doing what he's doing.
@@electronicjo1 he does give a f about chess as this is why he apologized . And who tf u r his lawyer or his fish?
@@AbhishekKumar-de2dj you're defending his half-assed apology? who's the fish exactly? No he doesn't care about the chess community as demonstrated by the complete lack of understanding of the impact of cheating in a charity event. It's only the social media backlash that he understands. It's not going to be at all embarrassing for him.
@@AbhishekKumar-de2dj to summarize, he's a narcissist, he doesn't have the ability to feel embarrassment. In his mind, everyone is to blame except himself.
Vishy showed his class by resigning
Vishy could flag him
@KEEP UP TheBeat But he chose to respect the chess board and position by choosing to resign in "losing game AS EVALUATED BY THE ENGINE". True class of Vishy Sir.🙏🙏👏
Vishy:"Its okay if they try to blitz me, but its ridiculous if I try to blitz them and not win on position"
if vishy would have flagged and won then all of this wouldn't have happened and Nikhil would have got away after cheating. i think vishy very well knew players who used unfair means because of his comments on games later
Resigning was a God move by Vishy, imo. If Vishy flagged him, that guy would probably go and brag to his rich friends how he got an amazing winning position against the legend himself and how he would have beaten Vishy if not for the effed up time situation.
imagine cheating vs one of the nicest chess people..
And one of the top 5 goats of all time!
@sai ritvik 5G G.O.A.T = Greatest of all time.
@sai ritvik 5G greatest of all time
@sai ritvik 5G Thx for asking the question for me. I once googled "why is magnus carlsen a goat" and it didn't help.
Nicest people in general you mean
Makes me wonder, If he had the stomach to cheat in a "fun" event for CHARITY, how much cheating has he also done on his way to amassing his wealth.
Every time these billionaires meet with politicians to tilt government policy in their favor they are cheating. How do you think they become billionaires in the first place? Imagine seating a poker table trying to play with someone who constantly gets favors from the dealer.
That's a good question. You should ask it about every billionaire.
You don't acquire a billion dollars through honest means. You acquire it by leveraging the power you already have to accumulate more power, rinse, and repeat.
@@SexOverThePhone1 It's kind of rhetorical bud. I'm not that naive. LOL =D
@@MrSupernova111 true story
In an attempt to Not Look Foolish, I think Nikhil Kamath shows how profoundly foolish he is for thinking the chess community of the World would not figure this out.
Lol more foolish that a 400 rated will play move with this tactical understanding 🤣. At last he proved he a jerk and people should get out trading through his company because he will cheat you anyway.
Basically a Streisand effect-type action
Imagine cheating against your very own national hero.... What a disgrace.
😂 😂
Exactly. As an Indian, I'm embarrassed and ashamed that we have such disgusting people with such disgusting mindset in our country. Also, during the post-match interview, Nikhil wasn't even interested to discuss the game(for obvious reasons). For so many of us chess lovers in India, it's still a dream to just meet Vishwanath Anand, let alone play an entire game. This dude got the chance to do so, and messed up. Pathetic. But on the other hand, we also got to witness the greatness of our beloved Vishy Sir when he resigned, and also when he didn't want to be involved in this controversy. For me he won the game. In fact he would have won if this wasn't a simul. People should also be talking about this, how Vishy Sir was able to put up a 92% accuracy game against an engine in a simul 💯💯🔥. Legend ❤️❤️.
@@Ash-rx5wl I met him in St. Louis, he signed his book for me. A very nice gentleman, said a few words to him, he was very nice and gracious.
@@Robster543210 Wow, lucky you.
@@Robster543210 Wow, great for you because meeting Vishy is still a dream for us (Indians) and you got the opportunity
A worthy opponent for Dewa Kipas has emerge
Facts
we need this match lol
LMAO
aka Stockfish vs AlphaZero
both also have the same first letter in their surname
"Kipas VS Kamath"
*Turns out Nikhil's EGO was greater than Anand's ELO*
LOL! That's perfect
Just a fantastic post! Couldn't agree more.
Lol
Lol lol
Zing
This has to be the most Kaiba-Moment Chess has ever seen.
Screw the rules, I have money.
The culture in your username is astounding
@@amreshwarnaidu7964 Relatively tame, yet sufficiently honourable
Perfect name
A YGOTAS reference under a chess video lol
@@sungod9797 we live in a society
Vishy shows how he's the bigger person here
He could've flagged, he could've even accused nikhil of cheating, (my man nikhil lost to a 800 the day before) but he didn't, he was the bigger man and resigned. He even said that it was okay if the other players flagged him, but it was childish if he would've done it.
Respect vishy ✌️
He probably resigned to spotlight the game and uncover the truth. For sure he knew his opponent was cheating
@Big Medic 100%. If he flagged him and didn't lose, the game would have flown under the radar.
Vishy is one of the greats. Amazing chess player and amazing human being. Definitely respect to Vishy.
@@sgt391 Nah, I don't think he resigned to bring this to spotlight. Vishy is old school (read, idealistic) in situations such as these...and even if his opponent was not cheating, I think he would have resigned, as positionally, he was lost. That's just the kind of person he is.
The funniest part of the “excuse” is the similitude with 100m against bolt. I mean he got the concept right but did the opposite. If you get beaten in chess(even with scholar mate) doesn’t mean you are stupid. Like all thing in life chess need practice, experience and creativity. I mean there are videos of bill Gates playing chess against Magnus with time odds and I didn’t hear anybody call Bill stupid after losing. If you are soo concern about people judging your intelligence, for trying and fail in a unusual activity for you, that u need to cheat I guess would have been a much more elegant figure to just be checkmated in 3 moves.
Bill gates is stupid tf
@@inorijade2427 lmfaoo
He thinks that its Among Us game and is trying to get away after getting caught red handed.
OR played a really good fighting game where he nearly defeated Vishy, but blundered in the end and lost! In order to succed in life sou have to take your chances, not throw them away!
@@NidusFormicarum he cheated.
The new chess rivalry that makes Kasparov v Karpov look like a kids quarrel: Dewa Kipas v Nikhil Kamath
Lol
Poor dumbass vs Rich Dumbass
Haha! Make it happen chessBase.
@@vedpardhi6409 well he got $7000 so it doesn't make him poor at all, especially here in Indonesia.
The master of the tempo vs the corporate fish
My take is that the cheater’s first move and loss of pawn was deliberate and designed - this way one would not get 100% accuracy, right Mr. Billionaire?
yea right
I mean there is no shame in losing to vishy. I'd be glad to lose to him everyday thinking I atleast got to play with him.. Why?. This is disgusting
His plan was not to win, he wanted to lose on time.
@@normalohio8421 iT waS VishY's FAUlt HE ReSignED
But you're not a crazy narcissistic billionaire
@@YellowSpaceMarine 😂😂😂
@@normalohio8421 then he would have just run out his clock.
Imagine having such an over inflated ego that you need to cheat in chess at a CHARITY
not really what an inflated ego means but ok
That's so naive it hurts. Imagine having a brain and realising why he did it.
@@wideant3376 no it is lmao, billionaire deflection to protect his identity, who the fuck cheats this hard and for what
@@waltgrisly509
clearly he doesn't have much of a brain by your logic then, because all that will come out of this for him is bad publicity. he gains nothing and stands to lose at least a little in terms of future business partners, etc
obv there wont be any real consequences, but it was still a stupid decision through and through. logically it makes no sense (if you think it through even a little) so it had to have been for his ego
@@phenix2403 seriously... There's no such thing as bad publicity (unless you murder someone or commit other serious crimes). Literally nobody but some chess players care about cheating in an inconsequential chess game, most people dont even know you can cheat in chess. Now imagine being a business that wants a partner or a sponsor/investor and you hear about this young billionaire. He has tons of money and willingness to spend them, but hey, he cheated in some stupid board game so I definitely wont take his millions. Yeah, that sounds reasonable...
Just imagine how many people Nikhil cheated to become a billionaire so quickly.
One shoulder to the other: "What are you willing to do to succeed?" - "Urm? Everything!"
@@rulinggodsidly3217 No he runs a discount brokerage firm which is known to have disruptions at critical times ie fishy in his dealings there too.
Exactly.
Let's not talk his business just remember what he did on chess board was horrible
@@akshunnadevansh5531
I hear what you are saying.. but the broader point here is that when Nikhil shows poor judgement, it probably isn't just in chess. This is just a natural conclusion.
You can't just accidentally cheat in chess.. you actually have to organize what you do to make that happen. So this wasn't capricious, but calculated and very intentional.
Imagine you're in a fund raising marathon for fighting against famine with Eliud Kipchoge and you take a motorcycle ride off camera and then you finish first place. How would you feel.
It really feels like Nikhil is trying to pass this off like “I didn’t cheat, it’s an open secret I was using a computer”. I doubt he would have admitted to using a computer had he not been caught.
He was likely too dumb (chess-wise) to know that everybody would realize what is going on. Once caught, he is trying to play it off.
Lmao an “open secret”
If he was sure that people will know, he could have cleared it up in after game discussion rather than waiting for all this drama to play out. I guess he said that I got lucky.
Yes on stream he said i got lucky
He was dumb, chess has negligible luck factor, you may get a mouseslip lucky but you'll never get a 600 player defeats a 2700 player in an one hour game lucky.
Hence, basically vishy was 92 percent accurate against a computer
While not knowing it was at the start which could've made him play differently
AND while playing multiple games BLINDFOLDED
And defeated two computer engines named Sajid and Sudeep, as well.
🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
In a simul also
He’s just a billionaire that holds all the stocks of fishing.
Oh my god I laughed so hard
Vishy vs Fishy.
That sounds very fishy
That's why he used stockfish
god damn it
"I'm the most outspoken personality in chess"
"murder? oh, I can't give you advice on that subject"
Son I am disappoint.
Haha, I used that meme just a few days ago. Can't believe how long it's been to see someone use it.
Damn. I started scrolling for 10 seconds and read that comment at the same time he said it
If only he understood that investing is stocks is different than investing in Stockfish 😂
Sheeeeesh, sick burn!
r/murderedbywords
@@NoOne-qi4tb not reddit
@@tingledinkle not my problem.
@@NoOne-qi4tb correct, you are the problem
levy : e5 is a blunder
Me, an intelectual : ROSS GAMBIT
His apology was a long way of saying, “it’s just a prank, bro.”
@@nicbentulan yes you're missing sportsmanship and brain cells to respect a charity event and a reputation of a former world champion.
Correction, his apology was a long way of pretending, "it's just a prank, bro."
This guy's a cheater too, he literally copied the other guys comment that was made 4 hours prior.
@@nicbentulan yes
U you are missing your brain :)
@@tarunarulraj no ur missing ur brain for making it such a big deal like he insulted a god or something
The mindset of the super rich. For many, many years.... this is exactly what I have seen from people with money. They don't care if they cheat. They have money. They feel entitled. Their mindset is completely different than what is to be considered normal. Their apology will always be hollow. Because they are the Super Rich and that makes them feel they are above all others.
@@suyashsingh9865 merit can make you comfortably wealthy, but you dont become a billionaire from zero without cheating others. Taking advantage of workers, investing in shady businesses, lobbying and manipulating others, etc.
Im so confused, how did he cheat?
I’ve seen extremely poor people shamelessly cheat don’t be an idiot
as Dr Johnson once said, "the arrogance of wealth will out"
Don't be weird dude. Anyone can cheat, regardless of age, status or wealth. It isn't about being super rich or anything like that. What you're saying is just weird...
That match displayed the character of both the players.
Vishy cracked a great pun in the next session by saying, "I don't trust these guys" haha.
Worst thing is that grown up man is acting like a kid and didn't accepted his mistake till now 🤦
He accepted in a new tweet in the evening
He reached out to Anands. They said not to drag him in the drama. He still brought him up just for his own damage control. Man with no ethics.
Trackmania had a big cheating scandal latly and the most known player dissapeard without an apology, i guess thats just a cheaters thing.
A 400 beating a former world champion super GM after blundering on his first move... Kinda sus.
Guys I think he's cheating.
Dude you might be onto something
*GASP* You don't say.
no shit sherlock
would you please share how you came to that conclusion please?
Don't be so judgemental lol
Nikhil’s damage control strategy was essentially to call everyone an idiot for suggesting there was a remote possibility he acted honestly. Incredible.
It's honestly sad that this stupid billionaire is what the chess community will remember of the amazing stream that was attended by freaking Aamir Khan and Arijit Singh..
Well if this didn't happen I wouldn't even have known the stream nor the event happened xD
@@cheesiechess3656 Sure, but a lot of people did know about it. It was one of, if not the biggest chess charity stream in India..
Man when u put it that way... My heart breaks even more 😣
The "I'm a billionaire so I'm going to cheat so I don't look a fool and then be unapologetic when I get caught out" attitude he showed reminds me of someone and makes me think he might be capable of becoming president one day
Yep.
This comment deserves to be on top
All that's missing him accusing Vishy of cheating himself
The worst people plan to be a politician, the 2nd most worst people plan to be a businessman- this is true in almost all cases
lol
Nikhil owns stocks in fish markets that’s why he’s so good at chess
That makes him a very fishy player
As opposed to thevish
stolen
It was fish vs the vish
@@saimedhanshbitla5157 from who?
Edit: found Mitvik Sihag’s similar comment, yes it’s similar but imo it isn’t directly copied
Vishy was playing against 3 stockfish simultaneously. And still holding against 2. Respect❤
The "apology" was really just an excuse. He basically said, "Y'all should've known I was using an engine, and it was just for learning anyway. chill."
The "learning" excuse doesn't even make sense. What do you learn from just following what a computer tells you to do? You learn far more from making mistakes.
@@Miss_Lexisaurus couldnt agree more, really. You can improve if only you are learn from your mistakes
He also did not use the word "computer" but "computers" and surrounded the word with "people analyzing the game" and "graciousness of Anand sir himself" as other forms of assistance to reduce focus from the actual and only assistance which was Stockfish.
@@Miss_Lexisaurus I think he's claiming he was teaching Anand by cheating... Lmao
“Unless it’s murder….Im not offering advice on that “Glad to know that Levy doesn’t condone murder
Yeah, i always wondered
He didn't say whether he condoned it. He only said he's not going to offer advice on the subject.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc
That's right, it is possible he condones murder if we only judge by the content of this one video
And this my friends is the difference between owning a shitload of money and owning a good character.
Having the balls to apologize if you fucked something up (which is perfectly human) is something no money can buy.
Money brings out true character.
from someone who "understands" chess but doesn't really play much, it's nice to at least see HOW people get caught based on the moves they're making. It's interesting to see the "this is the best move they could make here" with an explanation as to why.
A billionaire going against every rule just for his personal gain. Shocking.
The Indonesian dude is proof poor people are cheaters and don't respect rules
@@cordobes ??????
@@cloroxbleach9222 what's the doubt?
@@cordobes yo that's kinda f*cked up
@@somethinblue1162 It's about as fucked up as saying all billionaires are cheaters because one was caught cheating on a chess game.
Mad props, Levy, mad props for putting a focus on _not_ publicly shaming people (or "burying people into the ground", as you put it) and generally on making things better. We humans are a contentious bunch and tend to waste far too much energy on making things _worse_ for people we _don't_ like, when we should be making things _better_ for people we _do_ like.
Chess cheaters completely ruin the fun of chess. I have faced many cheaters before, and many of them don’t even get punished. You have to be down bad to choose to cheat in a board game.
I have also lost to cheaters many times. They play honestly in most of their games at 20-70% accuracy but sometimes they make someone their victim and play at 99% accuracy.
They don't ruin the fun of chess. They only ruin their reputations.
I mean if the machine is playing for you, Are you even playing ? 🤷🏻♂️ Playing is the whole point of a Game isn't it ?
I mean, do you really think this guy became a billionaire by playing by the rules?
Vishy showed nikhil what gentlemen do by resigning when he could have flagged him
Is that even possible in a simul?
EDIT: I'M DUMB
@@graysongoss8500 hahahah yes it is....this was the last match left...Vishy had won on all other boards....and still Vishy had 9 mins left and nikhil had 13 secs and Vishy resigned....I think nikhil wanted to loose on time and get the upper ground that he had a completely winning position....
Let me tell you another fact...2 of the other boards also seemed like using engines they were playing perfect moves upto the endgame and only lost when they started making their own moves and as soon as the level of play went down Vishy snatched the win....so basically Vishy was playing against 3 engines in a simul with 5-6 players and still win every game apart from this
It's kinda weird for Anand to try to flag him... If Anand played Magnus in this position he would resign, so why wouldn't he resign when playing someone much better than Magnus, i.e. the engine? If Anand tries to flag Nikhil that's just like admitting Nikhil is cheating, but what's the point of playing if your opponent is cheating?
@@cheesiechess3656 its the fact that he knew he was cheating but still he kept his cool and resigned
Correction-this event was organised by Chesscom India not samay.Samay and Tania were just hosts
9:07 at this stage Vishy had like 9 minutes and Nikhil had 15 seconds...Vishy could have easily flagged Nikhil but instead he resigned. And by the way Samay didn't organise that event Levy.
No! what levy he meant was that in future he could organize an event to make up for it.
As a relatively new comer to chess, it's considered lucky for me to first learn GM Vishy Anand in this event, by resigning respectfully to a cheater, although he had lost this particular chess game on the board, he had won a place in my heart. That is a move that only a true CHAMPION is able to do. Huge RESPECT to GM Vishy Anand.
I learned one thing from this, Vishy is a gentleman!
Him and Karpov the two most humble world champions ever. Misha up there too.
Both Sajid and Sudeep had their accounts closed for cheating as well.
there was NO INCREMENT...and he had just 10 seconds at last....VISHY had 10 minutes...he still RESIGNED!!!!🙌🙌🙌
Vishy knew, obviously, that the guy was cheating and didn't see the point in beating stockfish even if he could.
Flagging in a completely losing position would have made another chess drama
He resigned so as not to humor this dumb situation. No need to play a game that isn't fair.
@@tstartrekdude yea thats true... The game was like racing a dog and a cheetah.... and The Cheetah doesn't need to race against cheap dogs
In his tweet he said I can't believe so many people think I actually defeated him. So what did you defeat him for? To make people think you defeated him right? Dumb moment 🤣
I love how Levy respects every player, even Mr. Stockfish.
He also respects wife of Mr. Stockfish: Mrs. Alphazero
I don’t think billionaires are affected by chess community opinions
Of course
The event hosted very big names of Indian movie industry. So media was involved, and bad publicity on a stock trading company is pretty bad!
Yet he was petty enough to cheat for fuckin CHARITY STREAM
He seems to be affected enough to give an "apology" on twitter
If he wasn't, he wouldn't cheat.
The non-apology and the feeling of needing to look good consistently at all times will earn him some looks and meme mockery for years to come. And he deserves all of it. He's not sorry, he's sorry he got caught LOL. I mean what can you even do to this, it's not anything serious. It's just a "really dude?" moment. Dude clowned himself multiple times. That's all there is to it really.
He doesn't even seem sorry to be caught. I don't see any genuine regret/remorse here at all. It looks like he genuinely doesn't care about the chess community and his integrity because at the end of the day he's still a billionaire.
@@aesaphyr
I think he probably honestly doesn’t care at all. Since this gonna have no long term impact on him. People in chess community might remember this for quite a while, but anyone else will just forget by next week.
"billionaire has no sense of self awareness" someone grab captain obvious man lmao
Levy: i'm not afraid of losing fans in the name of stating my opinions
me: *becomes a fan*
Yeah you say that now tough guy but wait til he has a deferring opinion silly Americans think they know everything.
Opinions are ok. Politics are not. There is a difference that Levy doesn't seem to understand. Love him tho still even tho I don't agree with his politics.
@@leskobrandon8454 that's his point. He will get political, and he doesnt mind if people leave him because they disagree.
True
@@Averlest162 what a very low I.q. Comment 🤦🏻♂️
What Nitin Kamath said reminds me of the time when Coca-Cola claimed that 'no reasonable person could be misled into thinking' that one of their drinks was healthy, wanna know the name of their drink? 'vitaminwater'... The corporate world and it's irony never ceases to amaze me
yup, his statement was classic corporate-speak
"I'm not afraid of losing fans in the name of stating my opinion" more people should be like this
Yeah
You do realize by stating this you are reinforcing the idea that the should be afraid of losing fans right. Your takinghis opinion that he wants his opinions not to matter and saying that’s why your his fan. That’s just as bad.
@@Averlest162 what?
Reverse psychology you fool. Look it up. Levy's income is dependent on views. He's not uploading videos and streaming for charity.
@@MrSupernova111 im just complimenting his viewpoint jeez
I just love how Levy is so responsible and is aware of what people will do and does his best to try to stop the bad things from happening.
The way vishy sir handled the situation was quite professional, there is no need to exaggerate it that guy is just dumb or wanted attention
Jeez, the entire point of events like this is to go and get humiliated while people drop some money.
This shows a very vulnerable ego that a man can't play a role of a fool for a greater cause
In fact losing to anand doesn't really prove you fool. I mean cmon, the entire world lost to him 5 years in total. Kasparov, kramnik, Tal and other legends also lost to him. Even carlsen lost to him. And they aren't fools either. Sheer disrespect to the legend
Lmao imagine him thinking "HOW DARE KREMNIK LOSE TO HIM????? I WON'T DO IT. I WILL WIN!!!!!"
Love this take
Exactly. Sorta like volunteering for a dunk tank.
Everything Bobby Fischer didn't like in the 70's has gone nuclear in the present day.
Oy vey
Amen
Doesn't matter if Nikhil is a billionaire, actions speak louder than words. His ethics and values are out in the open.