Felt like Fabi was sleeping on Leko because of his lack of tourney activity OTB in the last few years. Listen to Peter broadcasts, even in critical moments the dude accurately calls out the 2 -3 best engine lines within seconds regularly. The man is a calculating machine! He's best known for grinding down opponents with a very high accuracy % even in 100+ move games. Adams from what I remember is an ultra-sharp attacker, with his weakness being attacks that pan out and quickly succumbing to counterattack. I would bet a considerable amount of money on Leko vs Adams in a best of 7 classical otb. Leko on board 2 with Rapport on board 1 can rival any other team short of India and US on an above average day. If the tourney were single elimination Hungary would be a really solid bet for bronze or silver if they didn't run into the 2 best teams early on.
@@bhough410 Adams the ultra-sharp attacker? I've never heard that one before. His nickname was "the Spider" because he was a strong positional player in his prime.
there is no question Peter leko was one of the best players of all time but I will differ to fabi about being off the board for a long time ...he might be right and he might be wrong but he is definitely more knowledgeable about all of this than me and you
I am Indian but the best chess playing nation throughout the history of chess that is Russia, missing in this Olympiad. We need to discard politics from chess to make the sport open and free from imperialism.
@@laynemccormic9102what didn't America invade half of the world and Britain invaded 95% of the world but they never apologize and if you are talking about Russia Soya I feel bad for Ukraine but at the same time it's Ukraine who started the war indirectly😅😅
@@bhough410 Correlation is not to have fa**ist flag waving during olympiad. Nobody is banning Russian chess players from participation for other countries if they don't share Karjakin's enthusiasm for war.
US team. 1 italian player , 1 philippine, 1 armenian, 1 cuban and 1 player from an oceania colony, Guam ... GOOD, there is nothing that money can't buy.
@@PrekKola Someone born in USA, for example: Hans Niemann, Samuel Sevian, Jeffery Xiong, Sam Shankland... even Nakamura though he wasn't born in USA. But of course, with that team you cannot win the Indian team, or the russian team if it wasn't banned (unfairly).
@@PrekKola Fabiano was born in USA but both parents are italians and were in NY for a very short time. In fact Fabiano was raised in Italy and played for Italy for many years since the USA federaton came with $$$. Guam is a colony of USA (a few nations have colonies today, and USA is one of them), like India was a colony of England. If India was still a colony then Uk would have the best team!
I love how Christian felt obligated to use all tiers and he put England in D tier then David Howell googled himself and this came up and he saw it and took it personally.
@@bhough410Bruh, he had the best score in the entire tournament last time. 7 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses and a performance rating of 2898 on board 3. He is higher rated than the vast majority of board 2 players this year. You seem like the emotional one if you're basing your opinion off of how you perceive his personality instead of chess.
@@Palthewall Now that you mention it, many top players today have hobbies with some sort of physical activity. I don't think that was the case with former generations.
list isn't based on who's strongest overall but who has a chance at a medal. Magnus mopping up while the rest of his team holds the fort for a medal placement is far more likely than England getting to a medal position. I do agree with fabi though D for England is a little harsh. At least C.
Magnus could win and the rest of Norway just has to get a draw. England has to win two out of the remaining three boards on demand vs. Norway since Magnus will win.
Lmao imagine putting England in D and Norway in B, when Norway is basically a one trick poney and England has a full roster of almost 2650 rated players 😂
@@lastorderx20001 He was... As Fabi was Italian, Wesley is from the Phillipines and Domínguez is from Cuba. So they have a spare player who is really from the USA...
This was a really interesting watch (: But I wish it included more countries, at least to highlight some countries most people don’t know as much about, like Armenia, Azerbaijan, etc.
It's funny how Christian unintentionally said behemoth correctly with the right pronunciation (it's from Hebrew and means "Beasts") and Fabi corrected him
Maybe he didnt want to participate. Because honestly speaking, there really isnt much incentive to play the Olympiad for players like Magnus, Alireza, Fabi, Hikaru and co. Unless you want to "play for YOUR country" or just play it for the "fun", i dont see much reason to play the Olympiad for top players. Also, someone like Alirzea isn't really a french player, since he originally came from iran. So i doubt he has much reason to play for "his country" france.
This is what happens when u just put the team u THINK is the strongest and forgot that there a lot of good underrated team out there that gonna beat top seed team
Fabiano Caruana Ranks… 4:59 the other guy try to put in his 2 cents.. let the Man do his thing dude, you can tell us your feelings somewhere else #christian
Man I look at India's team and that's so scary, everyone is super solid and they are all pretty young. It's a bit of a shame Hikaru is not playing this event otherwise I'd give USA the edge over India. Would love to hear your guys' thoughts on the format and general strategy in terms of lining up the boards against each other.
@@iitnakanpur.. after round 8, india has 16points and 2points clear of second poistion, with two rounds to go..it will be difficult to dislodge india from Gold now
The issue with England and hungary is that they have old semi retired players and it is hard to see them compete with young active players from other countries.
Luke McShane is an insane board 4. He's been in a slump as of late but is super dangerous when playing well. England actually has a very interesting team where all the players have peaked at over 2700 (Adams was like 2770) so they could massively overperform
Yeah especially with Richard on the Top Board and strong players like Sanan Sjugirov joining the team and Ferenc Berkes who reached the Pre-Quarterfinals of the Chess World Cup last time. And they are the Home team.
"Home" ? xD. Home of chess is India where it was invented in ancient to medieval times. Even if modern chess with few additional rules are concerned, it still wouldn't be England. Everything's not football. You don't deserve the D tier though.
@@bhough410 that means they are there to hunt not play around. Gukesh is a fighter, Pragg is a defender, Erigaisi is a sniper but Vidit is too emotional to be playing in men's Olympiad. They might beat Uzbekistan but over 11 rounds I predict Uzbekistan will finish with a higher score.
I would atleast have the teams and their boards on a separate screen while trying to make a tier list. A lot of times you were unsure or just wrong, which is fine it is just that you are trying to compare teams and hence objectively need to know the players. Putting Norway above England and Iran is hilarious.
@@SR-fs2fd ooohh. Still odd tho. I don't know who's on the team but France has MVL, Bacrot, Moussard... still seems like they would make a higher rated team than England for example
@@user-vt4hd8hb4v We've got MVL Bacrot Maurizzi Fressinet and Lagarde for this one... Pretty much the best possible team, unfortunately we'll miss Alireza. Still good enough for 14th Elo with 2653.
Rapport has been higher rated than Judit and has already played the Candidates when he is only half way his career. As incredible as Judit was, I don't think she was stronger than Richard.
@@sbramp that means literally nothing. He started playing for the US and has played again for the US since 2015. He played for the world championship under the US
I am an Indian fan but i would place Uzbekistan instead of India as the Gold Medal Favourites along with the US. They are really head-strong and have a bit of ruthlessness which India lack i believe. India have always punched below their weight when it comes to crunch situations, so maybe not favorites to win the gold but a definite medal prospect. Also you guys have missed to include few good teams like Poland, Azerbaijan, France etc (With players like Duda, Wojtaszek, Shak, Radja, Maxime, Bacrot etc). Dark Horses which can win a medal. Surely this average rating stuff doesn't mean a lot for these players who play at the elite level regularly. Maybe you guys could have picked the strongest chess teams/countries that usually play at the top level.
that's coz india never had a team full of monsters like this time, Arjun, pragg& gukesh all are monsters, and 1 high rated solid player like vidit, no need to underestimate ourselves this time, this team has more killer instincts than any other team coz of top 3 boards being world #4,6,7 and all are inherently attacking players(they attack differently like pragg is intuition+calculation+technical+tricky like nepo, arjun is attacking+intuitive+calculation, guki is insanely precise calculator according to carlsen+attacking+creative+ a bit less intuitive than pragg). Uzbekistan has just abdusattarov who is also a monster world#5 but rest are just good not killers with just 2650-2700 (here i am saying good realtive to top 10 in the world not underestimating them, their other 2 boards apart from abdu, sindarov and other guy are basically vidit with more attack but 20-30 less elo than him) not 2750+ unlike usa and india players, as for usa there is no universe in which so,fabi,levon (who are much older than our top 3) have more killer instincts, they are more experienced but recently pragg and gukesh have done very well in top tournaments against the same opponents & arjun vs levon is also an equal rivalry which started from champions chess tour so it's even. As for china, ding doing well makes their top 3 also very strong but again nothing is for certain about how ding plays these days. In earlier Olympiads strongest top 3 we had was anand(who was old and much more solid compared to his glory days ), harikrishna(very solid and very good endgames but very drawish) & vidit (positional but again solid and had issues converting winning advantages that's why never reached top 10) and other attacking players of past like adhiban were hit and miss and much weaker than any of our current top 3. For the first time india has such a killer team in which none of the top 3 are too solid but actually killers(they are solid too but that's coz of their level so automatically any 2750 guy aka top 10 will be more solid than an inherently solid 2650 player if he wants to coz he works on more theory etc and needs to be universal so all top 10 can be very solid if they want to, but none of our top 3's inherent style is solid and safe chess unlike someone like so or giri.)
Also one more point - make no mistake elo also matters coz many top 10 or top 20 players have more killer instinct than carlsen like nepo, rapport, duda etc but they are simply weaker than him in terms of level & that's true against anyone as he is generally 2840-2860 whereas others in top 10 are generally 2750-2790 so he is about 60-80 elo higher than others so even though other players might be more attacking he is technically superior than them by level(60-70 elo higher) so he dominates. Therefore inherent style matters only if the level of players isn't too much apart. Hence my point is all our top 3 being 2750+ also give us a huge advantage coz all other teams top 3's will have some players in range 2650-2700 as well.
I wish they were looking at chess results for every team. They put England in d assuming Gawain was starting and when looking at china talked about wang yue instead of bu xiangzhi
![BLACK BAG - Official Trailer [HD] - Only in Theaters March 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du0Xp8WX_7I/mqdefault.jpg)
Who's here after India won the Olympiad
Meeeeee
youuuuuu
Fabi got destroyed by gukesh😂😂😂
After India (Gukesh) won the world championship.🎉
Magnus single handedly carrying Norway's Average Rating.
Feels bad for Magnus and Haaland.
@@Nick-qn6spLol right
Who's haaland? @@Nick-qn6sp
Their population is only 5million
cuz his other hand is playing with himself on the board , "SIT AND PLAY WITH YOURSELF"
Fabi's forearms are S class
Bro knows how to do the rook lift! :)
Meme Idea:
Chess players:
Blah blah blah (Speaking)
Fabi:
But do you rook lift?? (Forearms Photo)
😂
Gukesh has just crushed Caruana.
and he don't know about gukesh 😂😂😂
@@vishalutkar4772well now he will remember t
@@vishalutkar4772 now he does
Gukesh won and caruana lost...what is this "crushed" shit
Why are you Indians so salty all the time
@@vishalutkar4772they know about a random 2550 gm. Ofc they would know about a 2750 prodigy super gm
caruana has been goin to the gym recently dude's arms are terrifying
Who cares??
Top GM with sleeper build is terrifying
@@bhough410 WE care, bozo
That's what I was thinking while watching the video 😅
20 pounds max bench press
1:03 Norway
2:55 England
5:01 China
6:01 Iran
7:34 Hungary
10:39 Germany
11:55 Netherlands
12:55 Uzbekistan( reigning champs)
13:44 India
15:37 usa
Ukraine didn't make the list LOL
Thank you!
Mickey Adams :win the London chess classic six months ago.
Christian: washed
Leko: had not played a competitive game in ages.
Christian: CLASS.
This had me dying of laughter
3000 elo comment lol
Felt like Fabi was sleeping on Leko because of his lack of tourney activity OTB in the last few years. Listen to Peter broadcasts, even in critical moments the dude accurately calls out the 2 -3 best engine lines within seconds regularly. The man is a calculating machine! He's best known for grinding down opponents with a very high accuracy % even in 100+ move games. Adams from what I remember is an ultra-sharp attacker, with his weakness being attacks that pan out and quickly succumbing to counterattack. I would bet a considerable amount of money on Leko vs Adams in a best of 7 classical otb.
Leko on board 2 with Rapport on board 1 can rival any other team short of India and US on an above average day. If the tourney were single elimination Hungary would be a really solid bet for bronze or silver if they didn't run into the 2 best teams early on.
@@bhough410 Adams the ultra-sharp attacker? I've never heard that one before. His nickname was "the Spider" because he was a strong positional player in his prime.
there is no question Peter leko was one of the best players of all time but I will differ to fabi about being off the board for a long time ...he might be right and he might be wrong but he is definitely more knowledgeable about all of this than me and you
Here after Gukesh defeated Fabi in round 10
Meanwhile Today Usa got crushed by Ukraine by 2.5 - 1.5
I am Indian but the best chess playing nation throughout the history of chess that is Russia, missing in this Olympiad. We need to discard politics from chess to make the sport open and free from imperialism.
Imperialism like invading your neighbor?
@@laynemccormic9102 who told u that India invaded her neighbor???on contrary, india is facing invasion by china and pakistan
Y is usa there then....they have invaded n bombed how many?...@@laynemccormic9102
@@laynemccormic9102what didn't America invade half of the world and Britain invaded 95% of the world but they never apologize and if you are talking about Russia Soya I feel bad for Ukraine but at the same time it's Ukraine who started the war indirectly😅😅
@@NovelsLover-zz sure, whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night buddy
Sorry but Olympiads without Russia doesn't feel right.
It's because invading your neighbours doesn't feel right.
@@reav3rtm Whats the correlation to world politics punishing chess players?
For now. You'll get used to it in a few years.
@@bhough410 Those who want, can already compete for other countries chess federations in olympiad.
@@bhough410 Correlation is not to have fa**ist flag waving during olympiad. Nobody is banning Russian chess players from participation for other countries if they don't share Karjakin's enthusiasm for war.
US team. 1 italian player , 1 philippine, 1 armenian, 1 cuban and 1 player from an oceania colony, Guam ... GOOD, there is nothing that money can't buy.
What would sound more "american" to you? Give us an example
@@PrekKola Someone born in USA, for example: Hans Niemann, Samuel Sevian, Jeffery Xiong, Sam Shankland... even Nakamura though he wasn't born in USA. But of course, with that team you cannot win the Indian team, or the russian team if it wasn't banned (unfairly).
@@alfonsoperal5386 Oh sorry, I didn't know Fabi and Ray (Guam is a part of the US if you didn't know) were not born in the US. What a stupid take.
@@PrekKola Fabiano was born in USA but both parents are italians and were in NY for a very short time. In fact Fabiano was raised in Italy and played for Italy for many years since the USA federaton came with $$$. Guam is a colony of USA (a few nations have colonies today, and USA is one of them), like India was a colony of England. If India was still a colony then Uk would have the best team!
@@PrekKola By the way, I consider Nakamura a real american because though he was born in Japan his mother is amercian so he can choose both.
Its more like the ranking by the anchor/host than by Caruana 😂
Yeah wtf can he let fabi give his opinion
Agreed, and Christ’s choices have 0 logic 😂
Yes he is definitely S tier annoying.
@@ivaerz4977 thought it was only me. I just stopped watching after the England rating
@@ivaerz4977 😂
This tier list is by default much better because it is of the normal S,A,B,C,D form and not that weird thing they had.
There's no reason to have S and no F.
@@ClarkPotter thats just how its formatted. Its a tier list, not a grading scale
@@ClarkPotterThere's no reason to have S and not E
@ClarkPotter both are not needed
@@ClarkPotter these are the top 10. so makes sense only s no f.
I love how Christian felt obligated to use all tiers and he put England in D tier then David Howell googled himself and this came up and he saw it and took it personally.
Howell is more emotional than the vast majority of women I've met in my entire life.
@@bhough410 jesus christ that comment has more red flags than Moscow in 1917
@@mandobrook "Red flags" maybe, "truth" definitely. Reality is Howell will get shellacked on board 2 against most of these teams.
@@bhough410Bruh, he had the best score in the entire tournament last time. 7 wins, 1 draw, 0 losses and a performance rating of 2898 on board 3. He is higher rated than the vast majority of board 2 players this year. You seem like the emotional one if you're basing your opinion off of how you perceive his personality instead of chess.
@@bhough410bruh he won gold on board 3 last time in Olympiad ahead of erigaisi and pragganananda.
The Indian 🇮🇳 flag is not correct it has Ashok chakra in centre not random shit that you are using in the above flag
Bro its pixelated, thats why it's looking like that
Just after round 10...just thought of coming back and saying hello from India 🇮🇳
Never thought someday I'd be distracted by a chess player's forearms
Chess is a sport!
It's game where you move elephant, camel, horse, soldiers ,king and queen by hand.
@@gagansamant96
#fingers 😂
Moving pieces around all the time, otb chess players have to do quite the heavy lifting . 🤪
And he's got it exactly right. I'm commenting towards the end of the Olympiad.
Yes brother but us 😅
leko playing just means that he is not commentating and i personally see that as a loss
Correct!
but hold on
@@SaiPrasannaS Hello Tania, hello everybody
Caruana - Italian descent
Wesley so -Filipino descent
Aronian - Armenian
Team USA 😂😂
also lenier belong to cuba
thats why hikaru said he feels ni yeam spirit 😂
America - the land of immigrants
Because American the future
Descent doesn't matter ,USA KNOWS How to nurture Talent unlike India😂🤡Also Fabi and Hikaru been living in US Since their birth🙌
Bro, look at Fabiano's forearms. Dude has been lifting heavyy
One of his hobbies is rock climbing.
@@Palthewall Now that you mention it, many top players today have hobbies with some sort of physical activity. I don't think that was the case with former generations.
India 🥇
Usa 🥈
Uzbekistan 🥉
My ranking
1. India , China 🇮🇳,🇨🇳
2 USA 🇺🇸
3 UZBEKISTAN 🇺🇿
4 NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱
5 IRAN 🇮🇷
6 GERMANY 🇩🇪
7 NORWAY 🇳🇴
8 HUNGARY 🇭🇺
9 ENGLAND 🏴
Christian’s hair is tattooed or something. Always perfect
It literally never grows from this!!
Not sure why Armenia is not considered this time, they were runners-up last time and had equal match points with the First.
Now you understand why they not put Armenia😅
@@dhananjayrathod-tt7me Absolutely :D
All I got from this is that Fabi is showing off his shredded forearms and that he most likely goes to the gym. Good for him.
There's no(r)way Norway is stronger than England, I strongly disagree with that
list isn't based on who's strongest overall but who has a chance at a medal. Magnus mopping up while the rest of his team holds the fort for a medal placement is far more likely than England getting to a medal position. I do agree with fabi though D for England is a little harsh. At least C.
both C for me, not much between them
Magnus could win and the rest of Norway just has to get a draw. England has to win two out of the remaining three boards on demand vs. Norway since Magnus will win.
I thought you guys were rating COD weapons. 😅
Bunch of old heads tho. But who knows
Peter leko playing otb is such an occasion considering he retired from otb. He was crazy strong and was a wc challenger in his prime
2:55 not even 3 min in and Fabi's already getting saucy 😂 Love to see it!
Lmao imagine putting England in D and Norway in B, when Norway is basically a one trick poney and England has a full roster of almost 2650 rated players 😂
Where is uk,,😅not in top 10, in Olympiad,
it's amazing that Armenia aren't even there as a top 10 ranked team yet i still think they'll be incredibly dangerous again
They are a dark horse to watch out for sure
100%
Wasn't Aronian Armenian?
@@lastorderx20001now plays for us
@@lastorderx20001 He was... As Fabi was Italian, Wesley is from the Phillipines and Domínguez is from Cuba. So they have a spare player who is really from the USA...
My ranking.
1. India
2. Uzbekistan
3: USA
4: China
5: Germany
6: Netherlands
7-8: England/Iran
9: Norway
10: Hungry
Why Norway so low
@@maxwillian6967
No very high rated player other than Magnus.
@@DishaGupta-yd5euAfter seeing 3 rounds, I can say rating doesn't matter , high rated beaten by such low rated ppayer
@@iitnakanpur..
This can only work for one in a team, not all three low rated players can defeat three higher rated players.
@DishaGuptan-yd5eu
No jordan team very low rated beat finland team 300 higher elo
Who's here after the USA's loss against Ukraine?
Well iam after it lost to india
Caruana is all smart ass talk , no metal against top players
Impressive how Fabi knows everyone's current rating off the top of his head.
This was a really interesting watch (: But I wish it included more countries, at least to highlight some countries most people don’t know as much about, like Armenia, Azerbaijan, etc.
We don't hate you Cristian no matter where England goes.
0:21 Fabiano trying to say he plays clash royale without saying he plays clash royale 🤣
Change in meta 😊
Really CR thing
What exercises have Caruana been doing? I want a forearm like his!!
It's funny how Christian unintentionally said behemoth correctly with the right pronunciation (it's from Hebrew and means "Beasts") and Fabi corrected him
It might be correct for Hebrew, but it's incorrect for English.
As caruana expected , indian team won
I really love this kind of content please keep it up ❤❤❤
After the 10th round and hearing from Fabi that Leinier can't be beaten by any indian players, that he can take on anyone.
Looks very funny 😂
India definitely proving the S rank!!!!! 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
We missed out Alireza Firouzja for stupid decision from government
But we still love him❤️🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷
Maybe he didnt want to participate. Because honestly speaking, there really isnt much incentive to play the Olympiad for players like Magnus, Alireza, Fabi, Hikaru and co. Unless you want to "play for YOUR country" or just play it for the "fun", i dont see much reason to play the Olympiad for top players. Also, someone like Alirzea isn't really a french player, since he originally came from iran. So i doubt he has much reason to play for "his country" france.
He plays for France not Iran 😂😂
@@zoso2640lol 🤣 what ?. It is like the chess world cup
France, Iran, we all love Alireza
Fuck Iranian government, theyed ruin a beautiful Iranian society.
This is what happens when u just put the team u THINK is the strongest and forgot that there a lot of good underrated team out there that gonna beat top seed team
Fabiano Caruana Ranks… 4:59 the other guy try to put in his 2 cents.. let the Man do his thing dude, you can tell us your feelings somewhere else #christian
Chucky says hi💀💀💀
If only Pang Bo is on the Chinese team, its definitely S tier
Y E S
I don't think ding is way better player and is in bad form rn bo is still decent but not for olympiads
Noop ..his ranking is low ...and he is good in less time format
It's crazy how many people in the comments don't get his joke
You should do an all-time Olympic teams tier list!
Hungary isn't D. After the 7th round they are the 4th team.
Here after india won gold in olympiad
Man I look at India's team and that's so scary, everyone is super solid and they are all pretty young. It's a bit of a shame Hikaru is not playing this event otherwise I'd give USA the edge over India. Would love to hear your guys' thoughts on the format and general strategy in terms of lining up the boards against each other.
I'm Indian but I put usbekistan and usa for gold as a team because team india stumble in big moment
@@iitnakanpur..from future and I can confirm that USA is not going to win Uzbekistan have some chances but I think China or India
@@iitnakanpur.. after round 8, india has 16points and 2points clear of second poistion, with two rounds to go..it will be difficult to dislodge india from Gold now
You were right man❤❤
@@iitnakanpur..seriously😂😂😂😂
After few rounds, interesting how bad these guesses turn out :)
What
hyped for the olympiad
Best chess podcast👏🏻
The issue with England and hungary is that they have old semi retired players and it is hard to see them compete with young active players from other countries.
I see Fabi been playing the forearm gambit accepted
S: India, Uzbekistan
A: China, USA, Iran
B: Hungary
C: Germany, Netherlands
D: Norway, England
Luke McShane is an insane board 4. He's been in a slump as of late but is super dangerous when playing well. England actually has a very interesting team where all the players have peaked at over 2700 (Adams was like 2770) so they could massively overperform
*peaked , that explains it all.
Vakhidov Vokhidov is a great supervillain name for a kids show
And your username is the name of father of computers for the pirated version of Earth Simulacra.
Why isn't Hikaru competing?
He's only interested in classical chess if it counts towards the Candidates.
He has played Olympiad 5 times and won 2 team gold and 2 team bronze so maybe he got bored now.
He only cares about money
He is scared to lose rating
@@underreppin he will play in 1 board..so mostly will play 2700+ opponents
India vs team world import (usa) for the gold
Even if Leko was inactive in the last few years, the "D" category for Hungary is a shock for me, as a hungarian. We'll see!
Yeah especially with Richard on the Top Board and strong players like Sanan Sjugirov joining the team and Ferenc Berkes who reached the Pre-Quarterfinals of the Chess World Cup last time. And they are the Home team.
Still a top 10 team. Remember the context.
WHY IS HANS NOT IN THE TEAM?? 😭😭
He was much lower rated, when they picked the team and I think a some players are also happier that way.
india finally wins chess olympiad 2024 in both male and female category
What are the games fabi is referring to?
That’s the real question
Christian should have done this alone for all the notice he took of Fabi.
If Russia were in place of Uzbekistan (no hate or disrespect to Uzbekistan, of course), I might have been confused about what the list is about.
there is just one russian player in top20 (at no.9)...current Russia is no longer the old russia with half the top10 filled by them..
Good awareness about game , putting India as S , and Indian team justified that too❤🎉
Christian, welcome to whoop club :D !
Waiting for the new patch to make Fischer random/360 the main competitive ranked mode of chess
This is very good.. thank you.
It's coming home!
the volcano below Edinburgh castle will erupt before it ever comes home lol
Who's home, remains the question :P
"Home" ? xD. Home of chess is India where it was invented in ancient to medieval times. Even if modern chess with few additional rules are concerned, it still wouldn't be England. Everything's not football. You don't deserve the D tier though.
I feel Uzbekistan will pull it off again. They have that predatory vibe that USA, India and China do not.
Gukesh, Pragg & Arjun can beat any player in the world on any given day. What do you mean not "predatory"??
@@bhough410 that means they are there to hunt not play around. Gukesh is a fighter, Pragg is a defender, Erigaisi is a sniper but Vidit is too emotional to be playing in men's Olympiad. They might beat Uzbekistan but over 11 rounds I predict Uzbekistan will finish with a higher score.
@@SR-fs2fdRecently it is more like Gukesh is a defender and Pragg is an attacker.
Predatory 😂😂😂 this time India will smoke Uzbekistan and that Abdusattorov will be Taken dowm
@@bhough410No one can beat Magnus on any given day.
Is anyone else getting too many ads?
I am here after seeing this S tier US a** kicked, and is not even top 10 on standings
Crazy hikaru will make more money streaming the matches then actually participating
In Asian games 2022 Iran won the men's team gold medal in presence of China, India and Uzbekistan with the same rosters. Let's see what happens here.
Bro time changes new comes
INDIA WON IN BOTH CATEGORY
I'd like to see the teams based on categories... a Classical player, Blitz player, Senior, Junior, and Women's player.
So frustrating to watch the world #3 get ignored by Cristian, and constantly hear Cristian overrule Fabi.
Calm down, mate,They are friends
@@Bēdguy69 That doesn't impact my enjoyment of watching someone far less knowledgeable questioning Fabi though.
@@robertfredericks3139 He is not less knowledgeable - he is just not as good a chess player.
Fabi got choked by Gukesh 😅
lmao, Fabi talking about Gukesh *cough* *cough*
I would atleast have the teams and their boards on a separate screen while trying to make a tier list. A lot of times you were unsure or just wrong, which is fine it is just that you are trying to compare teams and hence objectively need to know the players. Putting Norway above England and Iran is hilarious.
Put hikaru on any board and USA wins 2 individual and 1 team gold at least.
For that, he has to compete
No way Iran or Norway have more chances than Hungary. Also, why isn't France participating??
France is participating but is not in top 10 teams by average rating since Alireza is not participating.
@@SR-fs2fd ooohh. Still odd tho. I don't know who's on the team but France has MVL, Bacrot, Moussard... still seems like they would make a higher rated team than England for example
@@user-vt4hd8hb4v We've got MVL Bacrot Maurizzi Fressinet and Lagarde for this one... Pretty much the best possible team, unfortunately we'll miss Alireza. Still good enough for 14th Elo with 2653.
Yes Hungary is washed 😂😂😂
@@samarthbagwe1736 Ahead of both in the standings...
Rapport has been higher rated than Judit and has already played the Candidates when he is only half way his career. As incredible as Judit was, I don't think she was stronger than Richard.
Cristian: "I have never done a tier list before"
Didn't they do a tier list for candidates entrants?
Americans outsourcing their team to win brainy stuff 😅 : italian filipino, armenian, cuban 😅😅
Fabi was born in USA
@@Lemon-qs3uz he played his peak years as Italian
@@sbramp that means literally nothing. He started playing for the US and has played again for the US since 2015. He played for the world championship under the US
Naka really should have played 😢
I would say India is the favorite over the USA, but if Hikaru played, USA are clear favorites.
@@Deerjason totally India are clear favorites but yeah Naka would have made a huge difference 😭
@@Deerjason I'd still hold India as small favorites.
Think there is an issue with the fighting spirit in the American team.
I think Hikaru doesn’t feel like the team spirit is really there as a lot of them are rivals.
Should have put Hans and Hikaru on the same team 😂😂
Good thoughts. I mostly agree, I'd put England above Iran but otherwise I think you're pretty much spot on!
Nice recap
I wanted Yifan as board 4 tbh
I am an Indian fan but i would place Uzbekistan instead of India as the Gold Medal Favourites along with the US. They are really head-strong and have a bit of ruthlessness which India lack i believe. India have always punched below their weight when it comes to crunch situations, so maybe not favorites to win the gold but a definite medal prospect. Also you guys have missed to include few good teams like Poland, Azerbaijan, France etc (With players like Duda, Wojtaszek, Shak, Radja, Maxime, Bacrot etc). Dark Horses which can win a medal. Surely this average rating stuff doesn't mean a lot for these players who play at the elite level regularly. Maybe you guys could have picked the strongest chess teams/countries that usually play at the top level.
that's coz india never had a team full of monsters like this time, Arjun, pragg& gukesh all are monsters, and 1 high rated solid player like vidit, no need to underestimate ourselves this time, this team has more killer instincts than any other team coz of top 3 boards being world #4,6,7 and all are inherently attacking players(they attack differently like pragg is intuition+calculation+technical+tricky like nepo, arjun is attacking+intuitive+calculation, guki is insanely precise calculator according to carlsen+attacking+creative+ a bit less intuitive than pragg). Uzbekistan has just abdusattarov who is also a monster world#5 but rest are just good not killers with just 2650-2700 (here i am saying good realtive to top 10 in the world not underestimating them, their other 2 boards apart from abdu, sindarov and other guy are basically vidit with more attack but 20-30 less elo than him) not 2750+ unlike usa and india players, as for usa there is no universe in which so,fabi,levon (who are much older than our top 3) have more killer instincts, they are more experienced but recently pragg and gukesh have done very well in top tournaments against the same opponents & arjun vs levon is also an equal rivalry which started from champions chess tour so it's even. As for china, ding doing well makes their top 3 also very strong but again nothing is for certain about how ding plays these days.
In earlier Olympiads strongest top 3 we had was anand(who was old and much more solid compared to his glory days ), harikrishna(very solid and very good endgames but very drawish) & vidit (positional but again solid and had issues converting winning advantages that's why never reached top 10) and other attacking players of past like adhiban were hit and miss and much weaker than any of our current top 3. For the first time india has such a killer team in which none of the top 3 are too solid but actually killers(they are solid too but that's coz of their level so automatically any 2750 guy aka top 10 will be more solid than an inherently solid 2650 player if he wants to coz he works on more theory etc and needs to be universal so all top 10 can be very solid if they want to, but none of our top 3's inherent style is solid and safe chess unlike someone like so or giri.)
Also one more point - make no mistake elo also matters coz many top 10 or top 20 players have more killer instinct than carlsen like nepo, rapport, duda etc but they are simply weaker than him in terms of level & that's true against anyone as he is generally 2840-2860 whereas others in top 10 are generally 2750-2790 so he is about 60-80 elo higher than others so even though other players might be more attacking he is technically superior than them by level(60-70 elo higher) so he dominates.
Therefore inherent style matters only if the level of players isn't too much apart.
Hence my point is all our top 3 being 2750+ also give us a huge advantage coz all other teams top 3's will have some players in range 2650-2700 as well.
Dude last time we lost because we had a poor board 3 and 4, this team is collosal. Remember Gukesh won the most difficult tournament of chess.
And?
I wish they were looking at chess results for every team. They put England in d assuming Gawain was starting and when looking at china talked about wang yue instead of bu xiangzhi
all the best, Fabi. lets win the gold for team as well as indivisible one also
Why hikaru not playing for usa
They don't pay him enough
he is so washed out
Mickey Adams is not the "retired" player on the England team!!
Imagine how this ranking would look like if everyone were tryharding as coubtry like Azerbaijan