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Annoyingly capable - My TRANSALP 6 months in
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- CAPABLE, because this is a bike that does just about everything well; ANNOYING, because I can't really find any reason to sell it... except, perhaps, for its lack of character? EDIT: I've now sold it, lol
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
00:30 Usage
01:16 Options & Accessories
02:36 Fuel consumption
04:16 Comfort, Noise & Vibrations
07:27 Brakes
08:16 Engine & Gearbox
10:55 Off road
12:41 Dash & Controls
15:47 Maintenance & Reliability
19:21 Transalp 2.0
20:35 Competitors
22:15 Conclusions - Keep or Sell?
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Thanks for sharing your experience with the bike. Had my Transalp 750 over 4 months now. Kept mine pretty basic with quick shifter, heated grips, hand guards, 12v socket plus the tank knee pad graphics and wheel rim graphics.
I’m happy. Comfy. Good fuel economy. Love the dash.
Going to opt for a centre stand due to regular cleaning from regular UK riding.
I use it to commute and for leisure rides.
Took my bike 1700 miles for the tyre noise to stop despite correct pressures used.
I chose the Black colour as I just loved the stealth look. That’s subjective of course but I’m glad I did.
It’s likely to be the bike that I will own the longest of any bike I’ve had. 👍
Thanks for your feedback, Steve. Before you order your centre stand, you might want to look at this, if you haven't already: ruclips.net/video/wSCf-WwI_MI/видео.html
Perhaps it's a stupid question, but does the tyre noise reappears every time you change them, or is it just a problem with the stock tyres?
Another comprehensive report - thorough and easy to listen to, as ever. I largely agree with your observations, now at just over 3,000 kms on mine here in South Australia, although I did find some of the criticisms a little harsh, given the price of the thing. The vibrations, or 'tingles', I have found have 'attenuated' (gotta love a Vlogger with a vocabulary!) over this distance, and are quite tolerable to me. There IS actually some rubber isolation/insulation at the base of the handlebar risers; if you grip the base of one with your fingertips, and 'work' the end of the 'bars up and down with your other hand, you will feel some rubber swelling under your fingers. So the tingles are in spite of Honda at least making some effort there. And incidentally, to me the steering feels much better with those risers reversed, such that the 'bars are in a better alignment with the actual steering.
That was almost a breakthrough discovery for me, and really improved its 'feel'.
The fuel level indicators are, again, less than ideal, but I have taken some comfort from Honda's assurance (owners manual) that once the last bar starts flashing, we still have 3.7L remaining in the tank - about 80 kms. Its range of 400 kms I find acceptable, and the economy, as you mentioned, remarkable. Of course the blinker switch placement will always trouble those of us with other bikes, and the lack of an ambient temperature reading is an annoying oversight, although they may claim the sensor would have added to the very reasonable price of the bike. Perhaps that can be added later as an upgrade, but yes - its absence is puzzling.
Tubed tyres, and low-rent suspension? We bought the bike knowing about these, and I am sure the suspension can be improved, and for me that cost was factored in when purchasing. Some improvement may be able to be wrought with the forks just by experimenting with fork oils, as they are 'separate function', but the rear unit will eventually be replaced with something better (as with many bikes!). But I have found the bike improved with those risers reversed, and the heavy rear rack removed. Tubed vs. tubeless tyres a longer discussion, but there are pros and cons for both. In the meantime, the tubed tyres contribute to its killer price. Tubeless tyres cannot always be repaired at the roadside, such that (without a bead breaker) you may be really stuck if you were on your own, for example.
But I have so far found it a good value bike, which - as you say - almost 'does everything'. I don't find it completely lacks soul, in spite of my 50 years of Ducatis, and in fact it seems to me to have a surprising level of character for a Honda. It also has the subtle virtue of being happy at any speed, unlike many others. Having to go back to fifth to overtake at open road speeds is no bother to me - it is a 750, not an 1100 - and yes, the sixth gear is really an overdrive.
Thanks again for your detailed reports.
Thanks for your feedback, Pat. All good points. Glad you enjoyed the video😊
Thanks
Hi, for fuel I use the option to show in the dashboard the number of liters consumed, I find it very realistic and is give us almost exactly the fuel already "burned" by the Transalp.
There's also an option to show fuel consumed on reserve. So reserve is .73gal and you can watch the dash slowly reach that figure.
True, but range in km would be so much simpler :)
@@RocketMan_Moto it would show as 3.3L if your bike is set to KPH (metric). I'm in the UK (mph) so it shows it as gallons. The option is called Res Fuel Cons page 42 of the owners manual. It normally shows ---- until the low fuel light comes on and then shows what you've used since reserve started. It's not ideal, a range till empty would be far more useful.
Yes, I have that set on my dash too as Trip A consumption. Resets to zero when you reset Trip A. Works perfectly and there is never a hint of fuel range anxiety! My Transalp is definitely a keeper as it fits my riding requirements perfectly.
Gosh how much fuel you have left would be awesome. I'm looking into the atlas throttle lock too for my 2024 American transalp, and I'm impatiently waiting for the OEM saddle bags, heated grips and taller windscreen on backorder. Great bike, if not a little taller than I'd like!
Yeah, in the US we only get the downtuned, black edition... But we do get the quickshifter as standard. And after running the numbers through an online currency calculator... The US MSRP is $1760 cheaper in the states than the UK.
That price difference allows the US consumer to modify and kit out the Transalp completely, for the same price the UK consumer leaves the dealership with a completely stock bike. I'm personally more than okay with that compromise. Thank you Honda.
True, and customising your own bike is great fun. Pity about the 10hp power drop, though🤔
After 4 months owner of the Transalp, the only negative point that i can remark is the efficiency of the head light. When i say negative points i mean issues that can not be known BEFORE buying the bike. I knew that there is no cruise control or the Range gauge, so i can't be complained for things like them. Hopeful, in the next days i will receive the SW Motech crash bars (ordered at end of August!), and it will be possible to add extra lights, because in the dark you have two zones of light. One zone is 2 meters in front of you, after that a dark gap of about 4 meters and then the second light zone which at any case is not sufficient lighting for night riding. At the end, i still haven't used to the horn button
Yes, I've heard from several people that the headlight is disappointing, but tbh I find most bikes have terrible lights anyway. One more reason I rarely venture out after dark.
Seems I’m one of the owners who are fine with front light of TA. I maxed rear spring preload (still not at 30% of SAG) and then properly adjusted front light using upper screw on the back of the lamp. I rode it just Today in the dark and rainy forrest roads - no issue at all. Sure, it would be nice to have even more light but 60-80km/h was not a problem. My reference point is a modern SUV with led lights so TA is for me not bad at all!
I did all the same. There was a slightly improvement, but generally i am not satisfied from the final result. In city roads with low speeds it is ok. But riding on the highway at night, i always have that feeling of unsafe condition. Furthermore, it is always different result riding alone in comparison with a passenger. Extra lights is the perfect solution. My critic comes as i still have fresh in my mind the efficient double LED headlights of my previous bike Honda Varadero@@Luk4s7St
I recently bought a Grom and was beeping the horn all the time til I got used to it but now I beep the horn on my other 4 bikes. Thanks Honda engineers for changing something that didn’t need messing with. Maybe change the gas and brakes next time, just to show everyone how clever you are.
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Exactly! They could have put the electronic control buttons on the top of the switch (like Aprilia and Suzuki) and leave the blinker switch where it is on pretty well EVERY other bike, but they didn't. Sarcasm appreciated. But it is still a nice bike... 😊
"phenomenally resilient buttocks" is one of the most English things I've heard.
Re-listened 4 times and laughed extensively.
Loved the review.
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Trade it dude it’s what you do 😂👍🏻
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He changes bikes about as often as I change my underwear. (Every few months!) 😅
@@mtkoslowskilife of a RUclipsr 👍
I think many people will love this bike exactly because it’s pretty good at everything. Also 10 grand isn’t peanuts but it’s more affordable than many of the others. I’m putting off test riding one until a few more debts have been cleared!
Absolutely, if I had an absolute limit of £10k, then the Transalp would be right up there. s I said in the video, there aren't any serious negatives
@@RocketMan_Moto Yes I think you were bang on with the review. Sometimes I think there are too many choices and it’s easy to get swayed by another bike only to find it’s a sideways step.
@@RocketMan_Moto Love your videos. I'm also in the Algarve, in VRSA, just across the river from Spain. You probaly cross over on that great suspension bridge there. Here's a question for you RM: for a second bike, moving up from a Cb500f, would you recommend this Transalp over a Moto Guzzi V7 Stone? I like carving up bends on country B roads, but also like to put some bags on and head off on a tour. Best wishes, Martin
Hi, Martin. I'm doing a group ride over in your neck of the woods tomorrow. The V7 looks nice, but it's a bit old and doesn't really have much power for carving up bends, imo. The Transalp is surprisingly good at that and can also take a fair bit of luggage. Also, there's a Honda dealer in Tavira, whereas with MG you're looking at going all the way over to RS in Lagos :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks for the swift reply, RM. Yes, the Moto Guzzi looks great, and fans talk about character too, but I'm not 100% convinced. Unfortunately, I don't have my bike here. I don't live here full time, I tend to come for three months of the winter. I love this town, quiet, unassuming yet it has everything you might need. The Honda NC 750X seems popular around here, at least I've seen quite a few parked up around the place. I was talking to a man who road his new Transalp all the way from Austria the other day with luggage and a passenger; said it just ate the road, not a bother. It was the same colour as yours too. If I see a group of bikers around the town tomorrow I'll approach, and with a bit of luck you might be amongst them. 🏍👍
Absolutely excellent review Rocket Man
Thank you, Andrew. Glad you enjoyed it😊
We can rely on you for a fair and transparent review. Well done sir, this was much enjoyed!
Thank you😊
Great review as always, but you didn't mention the KTM790 Adventure as another alternative, tubeless tires and the option of cruise control
And guess what the Triumph 400x is on my list as second bike! We must have been separated at birth 😅
Just as thought the Transalp was the one Suzuki bring out the Vstrom 800RE just what would want the Transalp to be......
Ah well another bike to test ride
The Suzuki's engine throws out far too much heat for me to consider one here in the Algarve, unfortunately. No KTM dealer near me :(
I m a transalp guy. .. but if i buy a new adv bike it will be the 790 or the tenere 700 , since the gs1300 is to big for what a do, commute and fun...
So i Will keep my transalp 700 , and buy a sym 508 or a kymco ak 550 and have big fun ☺...
My plan is to keep mine. I first wanted a africa twin. But this feels much lighter and geometry is somewhat similar. Rear swingarm seems to come from the africa twin. From what i could see when i placed mine next to it. Obviously different linkage. And the front fender. But anyways my plan is suspension upgrade during this winter. Change battery as you can shave kgs with that. Different tires etc. The abs has a surcuit you can take out. Not tried that my self. But seen others do it. And it starts and rides. I have tube valve bend in my jacket pocket so no issue with that. Hitting 9000km very soon. Not a single issue yet. Loving the bike.
Thanks for your feedback. Keep enjoying your bike👍😊
We never had any of these gizmos in the old days. When you ran out of fuel you had a reserve tank operated by a fuel switch under the tank. Easy, but you had better find a garage sharpish. The point is you don't need all the bling to make a bike enjoyable. All you need is a good engine, chassis, cycle parts and reliability. I'm on my third Transalp now having owned the two previous incarnations. They are great bikes and this one is no different. My only minor gripe is the twitchy low-speed throttle response. Oh yes, and the seat is a little hard.
I ‘m enjoying the ‘gizmos’ on my Tiger 900😊
Definitely the most well enunciatiaed motorcycle review I have ever watched. You should definitely be reading the news on TV. Or at least the weather. 😄
Lol, thanks! I’ll give it some serious consideration. I left the UK in the 1980s, so my English is 40 years old😉
I ride a vstrom 800 in the heat of Australia and have not noticed any heat issues. I love riding it and have done 8000km in 4 months
Maybe they make reinforced engines for the Australian market, because most European testers have commented on the 800DE’s heat problem
Six months already? I’ve been watching your transalp videos from the start, jealously as I’m in the US. I’m happy to say that I finally got mine a couple of weeks ago, and I love this bike!! Totally agree with the points you’ve made here
Thanks! Glad you finally got yours, enjoy :)
What kind of writing you do? I’m curious about how this would do with mild, off-road and gravel in that kind of stuff. I’m sure it already excels as a commuter bike. In Canada.
Excellent bike review, RM! I just picked one up a week ago and I am happy with it so far--not a perfect bike, but it sure does a lot of things well. Thank you for the video, sir!
I enjoyed my time with it👍😊
All good points, but for me, coming from a KLR650, I can't find anything to complain about as literally everything is better. I should probably never buy another bike, that way my TA will stay amazing. That's not likely to happen, and I appreciate you pointing out what may or may not be a worthwhile upgrade depending on length of ownership.
Thanks for your feedback :)
Thanks for this reply and thanks RM for your great review. Coming from a KLR I feel the TA is a great upgrade all factors considered. Good to hear another rider in similar situation. Thanks all!
Thank you rocket man and for reporting this in miles and gallons because I’m not real educated about metric and things like that awesome video rocket man and stay safe great job
Thanks👍😊
ADV bikes are the SUV of the moto world and rarely stir my soul. That seems to require bikes like the XSR900, Z900RS and bikes like that. Beautiful to look at and very engaging to ride.
Absolutely. I'm lucky in that I also have a Speed Twin 1200 when I feel like a bit of fun :)
@@RocketMan_Moto yes, and what a great bike !
I ride my 8th Honda now and I have the same experience. Technically very good, I have not had a single problem and for maintenance there are 3 dealers within a 40-km circle. Still, Honda has used low-budget parts on several machines and the finish of the wiring is not always perfect either. After usually about 6 months or so, a feeling of boredom starts coming up to me anyway. I think this is because Honda does not manage to bring character to its products. So I am also looking forward to the new Triumph Scrambler 400 that will be launched in January '23 .
A lack of character is hard to define, but the Transalp has it. I'm hoping that, even if it's less powerful/practical, etc. the new Triumphs will at least have some soul :)
@@RocketMan_Moto The Triumph will at least be significantly cheaper and lighter! That goes a long way towards making the rider feel more confident.
Yes, about 25kg lighter, I believe
I'm glad you mentioned the indicator switch and horn button being swapped places.
Why on Earth after 50 or 60 years of manufacturers putting the horn button in the most easily accessible place, why would they change it to be harder to reach in an emergency ?
Not to mention that on full lock, the tank bag presses the button.
Maybe invert the brake and clutch lever for 2024, Honda?😂
Testing a GS and a Triumph 400 is really going to the extremes, one the GS has every toy under the sun with a 20 + grand price tag and the other, the Triumph is built down to a price with budget suspension and brakes which sells in India, i believe, in the 2+ grand price bracket. Looking forward to these two being tested that's for sure.
New Tiger 900 test coming in about 2 weeks, hopefully. Transalp v GS already up: ruclips.net/video/jJWVuZ5-Lxc/видео.html
Hi there, thanks for this review. Totally agree- I just reached 10K on this bike and I do share every bit of comments you made here. The only main issue with this bike is, IMHO, ..torque. or the lack of it. This is where the 92 HP of the Transalp have nothing to do with the 102 HP of the AT. As I already reported here, I tried the Africa Twin during the maintenance of my Transalp, and this is a world of difference. This Transalp has clearly the same DNA as the Hornet...which is a roadster and needs to be considered as such: fun after 7.000 rpm. and this is not my style of riding. So yes..Transalp is a keeper unless you want some fun which is what I believe the new AT might offer..or, perhaps, the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio. I'm considering those bikes as we speak, adding of course the new BMW 1300 GS but, as you rightly mentioned, this is another league. take care and thanks again for the excellent review.
Thank you, nice to know you agree with my comments :) The AT does have a bit more torque, but I still find it relatively bland. 102hp just doesn't cut it for me, I'm afraid. I'm looking at the Stelvio, too, and the GS, of course, but both are a lot more expensive, and I just keep on coming back to the Transalp. Maybe next week once I've tried the GS??
Really nice review and summary. Its funny, but the lack of a fuel range/ distance to empty display is a really big niggle for me. For any travelling, I have that visible on my Tiger dash all the time. I'd call it 'strongly desirable', or even 'indispensable'. Tube tires also a major drawback for me. I know the arguments on both sides, but that is a 'you're not serious', kind of thing. We all have our own priorities of course; those are just two of mine.
I agree completely on the fuel range. I have the displays on my ADV350 scooter and Triumph Speed Twin set to that all the time🤨
Xl750 owner here, 4k miles and really liking the bike. Maxton on the rear has completely transformed it, handles beautifully now it a really great bike. Traction control is junk and unnecessary though.
Tyres are so important👍
I bought an 8 year old Transalp 650, rode it home in the rain. I was really pleased with it- like a real quality machine, a galleon, a super quality bike.
I chose it for the knobbly tyres, high ground clearance, good fairing protection and all round touring ride.
Yes, the previous Transalp was also a great bike. Ride safe :)
Its the best transalp (yours) ... i have the 700cc ... i almost bought another one keeping my 700 (but was thinking about the first gen... also special) ... i think that honda have kill the spirit and the mith "transalp" with this new model. I just can't understand why honda have done this transfornation to the africa twin and the transalp ...
@@robertorochamartinsrocha7041 I remember an Africa Twin 90s being ridden along a beach in Senegal by a long haired, bare chested french guy. Sand spraying out from the back wheel, pure fun.
@@girlinagale nice picture... that's cool 😀
2008 700 VA was a great bike too.
Excellent review , lot of useful informations. I agree with most of your observations 👍
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for your comment😊
Still not ridden the Transalp but can't help but feel like there should be an equivalent to the V-Strom 800RE for this bike. That Suzuki is also much closer in price to the Transalp and has better brakes and suspension in exchange for lower top-end power. Having ridden the V-Strom 800DE I can't help but feel like the 800RE is perhaps the sweet spot as someone who only has a casual potter on dirt roads every so often, but we'll see once I've gotten more test rides in. Also intrigued to see what you reckon of the new Scrambler 400X, seems like a sweet little bike.
Aye, that version would be great as the 800RE seems to be just what I’m after. TransDolomite? TransPennine? Whatever they’d call it I’d be well interested in a Tranny with cast wheels.
Agreed, a more road-focused Transalp would sell well. First test of the Scrambler 400 coming next month hopefully🤞😊
Hello RM, I enjoyed this quite thorough review. I believe that you covered all points of interest for anyone thinking about buying this bike.
I must say that I appreciate the way you and your fellow compadres ride - sedately, measured, safely and all the while enjoying the experience and the view of the outstanding countryside. I mention this because the trend here in the states seems to be trying to get to the destination as fast as possible and definitely not my cup of tea.
Well, the riding season in Sacramento California is coming to a close. Good luck to you and safe riding.
Thanks :) We don't really see the point in flying through such beautiful countryside. We'd rather amble along and admire the views :) That said, once we've had lunch and head home, we tend to pick the fastest, straightest roads possible so we can get some speed up.
Looking forward to your take on the new Triumph thumpers 👍
Hopefully in December :)
Great detailed video RM. Can’t wait to see what you buy next.
Thanks, Pete👍😊
Nice video and I tend to agree with your observations. The stain on the gold rims is apparently due to the welding and how it reacts to the anodising process. There are handlebar dampers where the extenders touch the top yoke, they do seem quite solid though. Putting the usb socket under the seat is pointless, most other bikes have an accessory socket as standard near the dash. An adjustable screen would be nice.
Thanks for your feedback. I agree the USB under the seat is silly.
If you only have one bike, it's almost perfect.
There is a reason they are so popular.
Very interested to see what you think about the Triumph 400, and a water-cooled Himalayan changes the game completely.
Good watch.
Ride safe and happy travels 👍
Absolutely, nothing wrong with the Transalp :)
Neither of the other two change anything. They're much smaller and compete with cb500x or nx500, not a 750 with 92 hp and 75 torque, that's literally more than double the liquid cooled Himalayan 450 with only 40hp and 40 nm torque
Nice review all your points are valid although many are minor IMHO. Had mine for 5 months 4k miles (it’s my 2nd bike), ridden hard, now on new street Karoos. Love the bike all round winner, as a day / weekend rider I favour it over my Multi. I’ve changed the rear shock (400 euros) and it’s transformed the bike on the road, only limit now is the tyres. I prefer tubeless tyres and plan ti convert the rear over the winter. 200 miles day would be my limit. Good fuel consumption and difficult to get it under 50 mpg unless running over 80 on motorway. Love rain mode in the wet, soft throttle but then builds up to full power at speeds.
As I said in the video, all the negatives are 'minor niggles'. As good as it is, though, I'd love a bit more character :)
Many thanks for a most enjoyable presentation, it’s far from my ideal bike as it’s much too tall and heavy. I applaud your enigmatical conclusion as to whether the bike is a “keeper”. Myself, and I’m sure many others, are now left in a state of suspense. Best wishes and thanks again.
Glad you enjoyed the video. We shall see what the new year brings🤷♂️😀
What an outstanding review 🥂🥂👏👏. You covered two of THE biggest aspects to us peerlessly - fuel usage and air filter access. Top marks for giving the economy figures translated to all units of measure known to man!! And so far for some obtuse reason the air filter access appears to be a state secret protected by dire sanctions!! If I may ask, did you need to disconnect the tank to access the filter, or do you simply remove some nuts/bolts and slide or lift it with the lines still connected 🤔??
Thanks. You can access the filter by just lifting the tank
@@RocketMan_Moto with or without disconnecting the lines??
It would help somewhat if the bike was pleasing to the eye. The black color version is dull to say the least and I'm saying that as a Honda owner and "fanboy."
I agree. The US has been given the least appealing colour, imo🙁
Hey Rocketman I like how you explained the power need. Yeah it’s fun to rev out a small cc bike once in a while (I have a CBR250R) but as I get older it gets tiring. I bet it’s much nicer to have more torque and hp and just use the grunt of the engine with some lazy revs. Good overall review. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for your comment :)
The Transalp is a good beginner Adventure tourer.
It's not designed for anything dirtier than groomed gravel. Anything with middle sized ruts or logs, it just won't work well unless you are a very good rider or you spend a couple thousand to upgrade it.
It’s an excellent road bike. Have you tried one?
@@RocketMan_Moto Got a buddy with one. Brings bikes to me to wrench. It's a nice bike. New. Low seat. I'd have to lower the pegs to stand comfortably. But I'm a bigger guy. The suspension compression and rebound are not sweet for me.
I get that. The suspension is very soft with a lot of sag.
I like the caveat " a keeper for normal people ". We both know before late Spring there will be a new bike somewhere in the garage. I'm getting anew bike tomorrow it's been just over a year, well maybe less since the last addition 😂😂😂
You’re as bad as me, then. Enjoy your new bike. What is it?😀👍
Discomfort part of motorcycling? Well, in my books it shouldn’t be due to the seat. My last year’s bike was BMW F750GS with the optional comfort seat and my sensitive butt found it very comfy.
Thanks for this video.
Thanks for your feedback. Glad you enjoyed the video😊
I’ve had mine for 2000 miles and love it. You seem a bit underwhelmed though. For off road stuff I use an electric mountain bike so wouldn’t use the TransAlp for that. For everything else….job done
Exactly that: job done. It doe what it says on the tin... which is great, but I'd love a bit more 'zing' :)
Love the White/Blue/Red on this in the USA only available in 1 color flat why they do not offer any color options?
You also get 10hp less and a single-barrel exhaust. Don’t know why Honda does this. California emissions regulations?🤷♂️
@@RocketMan_Moto Makes no sense to me either.
That shot at 1:20 is brochure worthy.
Thanks. I got lucky with the speed boats in the background 😊
Love your reviews. I so wanted this Transalp not to have all these niggles for Honda to have thought a little more carefully about producing a good exciting bike. For me these niggles and omissions would quickly become rather irritating and tiresome then start to really hack me off. So thank you RM for saving me the pain of owning one of these.
My sights lie with the KTM 890 Adv, the Aprilia 660 Tuareg and might even consider the Ducati Desert X. Then there are the Norden 701 and 901 which are basically KTMs in different clothing.
I’m currently in Malaga and surrounding Andalusia for a few weeks R&R so not too far away from you in the Algarve.
I don’t foresee you keeping this Transalp for very long on the basis of your 6 monthly review. It’s seems to already be on borrowed time. It will be gone with in 12 months max.
It could well be gone soon, depending on what’s announced next week at EICMA. A KTM 990 Adventure might tempt me…🤔
It's a Honda, not a Ducati!
Economical, sensible, reliable, practical. Sounds great for someone doing a lot of highway riding.
A bike like this enables you to go on fun adventures, the actual bike itself is not the attraction. I've heard the same said about the KLR650, but of course even more so. It's not fun to ride, but it will take you on fun journeys.
Agreed. It takes me everywhere😊
i have just ridden the transalp and have to say its a cracking bike , i am coming of a x adv 750 and the bigger fuel tank, more power from the engine are v welcomed, and for me have a proper key is way better
The Transalp is vastly superior to the X-ADV in just about every way, imo😊👍
I own the same bike and is the best bike I owned so far, plenty of power, reliability, comfort, decent brakes, with some mods like aftermarket muffler and rear shock, why sell this diamond ? Gonna keep it for many many years unless something very interesting appear in the market.
Good to hear you're happy with it. Enjoy :)
It depends if you want to try new experience and taste a new flavor. Mid range bike offer is quiet larger , Fantic 700, Cf Moto Adventure, Suzuki 800 in road version , scrambler between 500-700 cc
Yes, plenty of alternatives. I didn't have time to cover all the competitors :)
Great video. Thanks. So, all in all, knowing the Transalp is a good bike and a keeper, you having previously said that the VStrom 800 is better in a few areas, has me wondering. From the 2, which one you'd choose. Another 3rd weak choice is the Tracer 700 for me. I will purely ride road (0% offroad), but it will be rugged country roads. And I pay a lot of importance to rider seat comfort. Not having sold my Ktm390, gives me more time to go back and forth between my decisions. So hearing something from you really helps. Thank you.
Appreciate the compliment😊 The Suzuki is more fun, but no good in a hot country like Portugal, because of the engine heat. I also find it ugly, but that’s subjective. If I were doing all this again, I’d probably try and stretch to a new Tiger 900.
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah, here in Turkey is no different from Portugal, so in that case I should either get the Transalp which by no means will be a mistake, or stretch for a Tiger. The thing being that the closest Triumph service to me is 3 and a half hours away. So having to pick between a transalp, and Yamaha (tenere/tracer), I think honda seems like the best bet.
Check the KTM 790 adventure for the same price.
And why not a Moto Guzzi V85TT?
@@nickzourb190 thanks. I did. Both brands services are 2 1/2 hours away from me. Plus the 790 is now being assembled in China. Plus the Moto Guzzi is European. I’m rather leaning towards a more reliable Japanese bike. Thanks. Actually, I’m still thinking about the 790 despite
@@erkutgurun Reviewers say that the new Chinese 790 is a great bike overall, with all the previous issues solved, cause it's a known engine/platform.
On the other hand, I have the Guzzi and I can tell you it might not be the fastest bike, needs improving on wind protection, and it's not that perfect on the highway, it's still a great, handmade Italian motorcycle, unique, air cooled with a drive shaft instead of chain and sprockets.
Great brakes, very comfortable, excellent riding position, great lights, tubeless (E5) cruise control as standard etc.
And because it's a mechanically simple bike, (for example it only needs 1.7 liters of oil with filter) services are cheap and you can do them on your own after the warranty expires.
Feel free to ask everything you like !
😊I like your videos, thoughts and impressions.
Thank you, 'human' :)
I must say, the look of the transalp is really starting to grow on me but i just can't get by the tubed tires, oh well.
Thanks for your feedback 👍😊
The problem with changing a bike after such a short length of time is that you lose so much money on it. Unless you really hate it, of course, a few years will get the benefit. The earliest I've parted with a machine is two years. That way, the early losses are at least balanced by the enjoyment I've had from it. The Indian FTR, Z900RS and V100 are definitely keepers. If I sell the big Zed, I've had five years out of it, so it owes me nothing.
You're quite right, but unfortunately RUclips moves fast and the Transalp is 'very 2023'. That's my excuse anyway... ;)
Hello Rocket Man!
Thanks for the video. I recently had the opportunity to ride the Transalp again. Previously, I complained that the engine vibrations were very noticeable in my hands - very high frequency. Additionally, the engine whistled in an irritating manner.
This time I had one with a mileage of 1 km. And I didn't feel any vibrations. None. Has Honda improved anything? Does it depend on the copy?
The biggest disadvantage of the Transalp are its tube tires and a very cheap suspension. Unfortunately, you can feel it.
Transalp's best competitor seems to be the motorcycle you didn't mention - the Tuareg. More expensive but definitely more advanced.
Americans have 10 km less (noise standards?), but it may not matter at all because the highest power is achieved by this motorcycle at really high revs. In everyday driving, torque is definitely more important.
Agreed. Thanks for your feedback👍😊
quick thing I started doing was using Trip A and B for fuel range.. when I got my bike I used trip A a few times and figured I was averaging about 250km per tank... so then I left that on Trip A and then I use Trip B and reset it every time I refuel... now I know my range and can use Trip A for distance between chain tensioning or w/e else I feel like tracking and I know Trip B is my fuel range.
Yes, I’ve started doing that too. It sort of works, but it still annoys me that Honda didn’t just give us the Fuel Range display which would make everyone’s life so much easier🤔
@@RocketMan_Moto I have had a cb300r and rode a cb500x for a week (road trip with friend) and best I can tell Honda are very.. pessimistic.. their distance measuring is spot on to the GPS but when I refuel and do the calculations between fuel consumed and what is displayed I usually get much better fuel efficiency than what they claim I am. So my guess is if they did add one, it wouldn't be right, or at least, you would be saying it's not very useful lol
What would really help is tubeless spoked wheels. Better fuel gauge sure, but if it has a trip gauge on the odometer it's easy to figure out. And quick shifter as standard....
Agreed👍
Good as always. Thanks.
Thanks, Tom😊
Great 6 month review. I'm also an owner and, for me, the lack of low down torque is it's biggest failing. It loves those reves and that makes hill starts a noisy affair, plus traffic riding a bit of a pain.
Agreed, it needs more toque. My Speed Twin feels like a V8 in comparison.
Good at not be solved by adding more teeth on the rear sprocket or taking away a tooth on the front?
Probably, but then it would be more buzzy on the motorway
@@TheZakkmylde Larger rear sprocket only partly solves it because you are then swapping gears too often around town, so it's no substitute for torque.
@@ajohnwaters Yes, agreed. The XL600 Transalp I had many years ago had way more torque thats why it was so popular. It ran out of steam a bit around 80mph though. I have the XL750 and it is disappointing having to keep changing gear. The new V-Strom 800DE has more torque and is more fun to ride, and more confidence inspiring. Gonna try the 800RE soon, and the new Himmy 450. Having said all that the XL750 is still a great bike.
Thanks, good overall review!! "For Me" it appears to be a Great "overall" do-it-all motorcycle (its high on my list) as for it maybe being a bit bland/ boring, that can be a good thing for all day 200 to 400 mile days. Major negative for me, "no tubeless tires" as for no Cruise Control (CC), theres a couple of aftermarket CC company's that make some manual units, that are suppose work pretty decent/ get the job done.
Thanks, Mike. Another viewer used the expression ‘annoyingly competent’ and it’s exactly that🤦♂️😀
I had a testride of v-strom 800 (The road biased version, also called RE or SE on some markets) and It was just fun to ride. If you'd like to look for a change I'd say it's worth considering. PS: I didn't try the transalp yet, but my daily rider is a 2008 Hornet PC41.
Ride Safe :)
Thanks, I agree the Suz' is fun to ride, but the engine throws off way too much heat for the summer months here in Portugal. A non-starter for me, unfortunately :(
@@RocketMan_Moto I have same problem. Fantastic bike but 4 things keep me away of it (DE):
1. Right leg is turned into roasted chicken.
2. Weight
3. Tub tires (I know RE is tubeless but got not spoked rims - even cheaper)
4. High vibration at 5.000 rpm
Agree with that
I have the Transalp but tried the V-Strom 800DE and found it more fun to ride and more confidence inspiring. My Transalp is getting nervous. Gonna try the 800RE or SE as its called in Europe.
You don't find the KTM 790 adv or the CFMOTO 800MT Explore to be transalp alternatives? They are about the same price.
Of course, but I couldn’t cover all the alternatives😉
CF moto 800mt looks really good, but always worry about fit n finish and 2nd price when time to move on
Exactly - what you save when you buy, you lose when you sell
Appreciate the thoughts and update on the bike, I have had mine for just more than 2 months and am getting quite used to it. I love the combination of power, fuel economy, wind protection, and weight. I’m 5 foot 11, 32 inch inseam and I can just flatfoot the bike on both sides, like you, I had the taller screen added. I have noted a strange noise occasionally at certain speeds, not sure if it’s from the tires or wind coming up through the gap down the front forks. I’ll try to narrow this down… but other than that, yes this is a keeper for me… All I need. Quick side question, I want to add some grip puppies, have you found a local supplier in the Algarve?
Thanks for your feedback, Mike. Glad you're enjoying your Transalp. I got my Grip Puppies from amazon.es
The more i read and i known about this new transalp the more i didnt unserstsnd why honda have transform the transalp and the africa twin so much. They have mess up big time ... almost nobody talks about that today but...
This is indeed a " jack-of-all-trades" bike. I really appreciate (good) Honda engineering.
Absolutely. I love changing bikes, but I honestly can’t think of a reason to sell my Transalp😉
As a transalp owner i completely agree with your opinion. Its a fantastic bike and i cant really say much negative about it for the price. But it misses character. Ive had many bikes that im just dying to ride and that really excite me everytime i do, and while the transalp is a good bike, im not that excited riding it and i find myself using it much less often than some other models ive had. Im waiting to see what gets announced at eicma, im mainly interested in the yamaha tracer 9gt. lets see if they give it a facelift/single dash. I had a tracer 900 before the transalp and that cp3 engine was so much more fun.
Thanks, Kevin. Nice to know I'm not alone in missing a bit more character. The CP3 900 engine is one of the best 'small' engines I've tried, the Transalp must seem a bit bland to you?
@@RocketMan_Moto Bland and underpowered if u dont downshift. Below 4-5k not much happens. And in 6th gear there is no power at all. The cp3 has power in the entire powerband including in 6th gear. Ive always enjoyed sporty engines more and while the transalp is good, it doesnt excite me. Lets see next week if the new tracer gets announced and i'll decide if i want to put a deposit on one :)
I hope they improve the fit & finish
@@RocketMan_Moto I mainly hope for a nice display and not the dual one, good colors and perhaps a reworked front end to look more like a traditional yamaha
@@Kevin97587Haven't they just updated the Tracer 9 with the GT+? Or do you mean you're hoping for the updated dash to trickle down to the other versions of the bike?
I'm a 2022 Honda CB500X owner. I've got mine adorned with all the aftermarket and Honda accessories I wanted, then the TransAlp came out! After looking at many reviews on RUclips I've decided this is not worth the extra $10K+ Can. dollars that it would cost me. For the money my little 500 is hard to beat. No bike is perfect or fills all the desires of the rider completely. Having said that, I await the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio. It looks like my kind of bike! Too bad it will be a premium price (I bet) with poor Canadian dealer network. I can't win!!
Big price difference there, Bill. In Europe, the Transalp is only about €3k more than the CB500X. The Stelvio does look a tasty proposition!
You are getting a Triumph 400X? Nice ! I have one on order in matte green. I have seen enough YT vids on it from India to speak the language now haha.
It looks perfect for what i want and I will sell my scooter likely because i can flat foot the 400X.I will wait a bit longer for my long range bike and it might be the new CFMoto 450MT twin-175kg and KYB suspension 44hp/nm--it looks the part .
As well they sell them in my country but its a bit of a leap from the Rolls Royce of reliability a Honda...just waiting for that one and the Himalayan450 to get reviewed and ridden first before leaping in. I like light and smaller bikes here where i live in Asia but its a busy crowded place down here. Motorbike parking is scooter sized not 'big bike" sized as they call anything but scooters here.
I have a refundable deposit on one. If I don’t like my dealer’s demonstrator bike when they get it next month, I will cancel. I love the looks, but tbh I’m not sure where I’d ride on a 400🤔
Ya i am on refundable deposit as well--will check the vibrations but its all i need here for power--i rarely venture on highways here@@RocketMan_Moto
Agree with all your observations on the Transalp. Mine is not a keeper and I have already started looking for the next bike in the new year. I like you just ride for fun and don't venture offroad, the bike would make a perfect commuter to work though. Have had a few prices to trade it in and it has lost just over 25% of its value which is about right, but will probably sell it privately. It has never really impressed me in any way but it is a budget bike built well to a price.
Can't argue with that :)
What would you get?
Back to a naked bike I think? Will order a Hornet CB1000 if the price is right, if not another Triumph Street Triple.@@kleitosaliagas5668
I was on the edge of getting this, but lack of an "sp" version to say that cruise is a deal breaker for me. I remove i dont go off road, so a moder tracer lacks nothing and never fails in the smile department. But as you said eicma is days away and could easily render this comment irrelevant. Or the 2024 tracer plus with go in the the super premium with the new mt09 sp... yamahas come to japan real slow which is good, ill need time to save up😅
An SP version would be nice, but Honda doesn't seem to go in for that kind of thing. Unfortunately.
@@RocketMan_Moto adventure sport?
Doing different versions of the same bike
Take a look at the new improved 2024 Tiger 900 GT, GT Pro & Rally Pro… (not the Aragon Editions). A lot of improvement’s: 108 HP, More Torque, New dash screen, Better design, Better fuel consomption, Less vibration in the bars, Less engine heat on the knees, New seat…
I wont change my 2020, but now the Tiger 900 is better than ever…
Yes, but I was hoping for 115-120hp. 106 isn't much of an upgrade on the Transalp's 92 :( I need to test it though first.
@@RocketMan_Moto You’re an hungry man for Horse power 😉. I never never felt that i was needing more HP on my 2020 Tiger 900 GT; 95 HP is more than enough even with luggages & pillion. So for me, 13 HP more seem like a very good upgrade… 108 HP is more than there is on the heavy (but so beautiful) Africa Twin 1100 2024 with just 105 HP. Best regards from Montreal.
I was astonished how much fuel Tiger 900 GT consumes. And I do not like it at all.
@@podunkman2709 since 2020, with my Tiger 900 GT, my average is 5.1 L/100 km… not bad…
Wow, that's more than my Speed Twin 1200
Nice video and detailed overview! About the engine heat on the V-strom 800DE: many other reviewers/owners are not complaining (or very little) about it. Perhaps you had a particular bad version, or newer versions improved the issue? Also, an ugly exhaust shouldn't be a dealbreaker as you can easily fix it (and probably should). Maybe you should try a 800DE once more?
Thanks. I have heard/seen several reviewers complain about the heat. If you speak French, see the Moto Magazine channel😊
100 bhp on the Africa Twin is easily enough. The TA does absolutely nothing for me. I'm coming around to seeing the virtues of an ADV 350. Selling the 390 Duke in Thailand, then maybe I'll get one.
I am abandoning Portugal when I return in April. As soon as my very deasirable condo sells, I'm off. Sick of the place.
Good review. Nick J
Thanks. Enjoy the ADV😊
Enjoyed the review, covered most points relevant to most people, I guess you need the OAT gauge to know when to apply sun cream!
Just one thing that consistently winds me up every time I listen to your commentary, please stop saying it hardly ever rain in Portugal🥴. Think of us poor blighters "up North" having to wash the salt of after every ride and dealing with hypothermia!
Only joking (ish), but now I'm retired I am seriously thinking of relocating to Portugal for the winter months armed with my Camper-van/two bikes onboard. So, do you have any recommendations for long term stays in or around your area in sunny Portugal? Or for that matter, any points of contact/websites that do?
Any info would be greatly appreciated as a recommendation is worth a 1000 web searches.
Thanks, Tony. The Algarve is very pleasant, but east to west it's very similar, so you can't go wrong really. It's much warmer by the coast than in the nearby hills, so I'd avoid those in the winter.
Wondering if Honda could put out an update to add fuel range? It’s a computer screen so I don’t know why not. That’s really my only complaint. Cruise control is nice and I had it on my Harley but not a deal breaker and aftermarket is offering it.
Should be easy to do, but they want us to upgrade to the AT
Yes, what they dont realize is that if you are 5'7" you'll need a ladder to get on the twin. Do they think the taller you are the more money you have to spend? Thats one place Harley wins. Anybody can ride any bike either loaded up or strip down versions.
Speaking of gearbox, did you have any problems switching from 1st to 2nd, especially during the break-in period? I quite surprisingly often miss 2nd gear, although mine is just 300km yet. On a test ride where bike already had 21k kilometers I maybe missed it one time at the very beginning, so I hope this will vanish right after first service.
Can't say I encountered that problem
As good as any adventure bike is (regardless of the price), they are 'all rounders'. You surely have to have a specific target focused bike, like a motocross or a naked road or supersport road bike to get properly proper thrill. For example; I haven't ridden the Honda Hornet yet, but I'm sure it would be MUCH more fun that the Transalp, even though the bones are the same.
The Hornet is more fun, but it’s not day and night
I need help understanding the Eb engine braking
And Tc torque control feature in the customisable USER mode
Altering those 2 makes no difference to the riding characteristic of the test ride bike I rode...
( However
Changing values of Power and ABS makes a visible difference)
I'm from Singapore and I currently own a CB400x, which a less tuned version of your CB500x in the international markets. I'm having thoughts of upgrading to the Transalp ever since it came out. I've watched all your videos in regards to the Transalp and I'm pretty excited. Singapore is 100% city and urban riding with expressways, totally zero offroad.
In short, if I may ask, do you consider the Transalp a Mini African Twin, or a beast-mode CB500x? Also you mentioned in one of your positives regarding the heat that emits from this bike. Singapore is summer all year round, with temperatures 30-35 degrees on afternoons, does it really not heat up that much?
Thank you Rocket man for your videos and I look forward to your replies
Imho, the Transalp hits the sweet spot between the AT (too big, too expensive) and the NX500, which is a bit lacking in power. The absence of engine heat is a real advantage in hot climates and I’m missing it now with my Tiger 900.
Missing any comparison/reference to the BMW +/-750s. Also: why are tubed or tubeless tires an issue ?
Tubed punctures are very difficult to fix at the roadside
I can't decide whether to trade my CB650R in for one of these or not. I like the look of the Transalp but I feel like it's a lot of money for not enough of an upgrade.
Don’t know if you’ve followed the latest on the channel, but I sold the Transalp and my Speed Twin in favour of a Tiger 900 3 months ago. No regrets😊
Anybody have any inside info on if Honda will bring the blue and white color combo to the USA in the coming years?
I think it’s a question of when, rather than if🤞
Seems like Honda mixed up rain and gravel mode in the menu.
Gravel mode works fine on my Tiger 900. I don’t understand how Honda messed up so much on the Transalp🤷♂️
@RocketMan, any interest in the new RE Himalayan? I'm desperate for an ADV bike but can't wrap my head around spending more than €8K on a second bike to ride only a handful of times a year.
Absolutely, if I didn't have a deposit on the Triumph 400 Scrambler, I'd definitely be looking at the Himalayan.
Nice review! Ktm 790 adv would be interesting 👌
Thanks😊 No dealers locally, unfortunately🤨
How do twins compare to singles on vibration? Is it worth the extra weight?
Twins can be vibey, while singles tend to be thumpy (and vibey too, sometimes, lol)
The OEM bars don't add any vibration for me.
I find that you have to work the gears more than on other bikes.
The power is plenty enough for my needs. It looks like your roads have a lot less traffic than in the UK so maybe that is why you prefer more power.
Here they keep reducing the speed limits due to race bike riders being reckless.
I don't have any problems with the switchgear apart from it being almost impossible to find the horn when some jerk decides to pull out or change lane without looking.
Tubeless tyres are useless if you damage the rim whilst out riding, which is more likely off-road. Don't want Cruise Control.
I have had a bike with tubeless tyres where the rim has rotted from the inside causing slow punctures. The only way around that was to have it sand blasted and repainted as it was so bad. Instead I just sold the bike. Very annoying.
Improvements?, Better graphics or none at all, not keen on the graphics on the white even though I have one. Plain red or blue would be good. Range and Air Temp, as discussed.
Put the horn where it is quickly accessible. Larger more distinctive twin headlights like the AT. Reduce the gloss of the dash a bit.
Other than that more torque would be nice.
After all that I am more than happy with the bike. But, having ridden the Suzuki 800DE I found it more fun and am gonna try the 800RE next week hopefully.
Might give the Himalayan 450 a demo soon as well, just to compare notes you understand...ahem!
Good points. Yes, there's a lot less traffic down here, so power can be exploited
Look forward to your review of the R1300GS. I was impressed by my first ride a couple of weeks ago and am having a longer ride next week. I think I may have found the one bike to replace both my Speed Twin 1200 and R1250GS!
Hmm, in that case, I don’t think you’re going to enjoy my review😬
1300GS vs TRANSALP: Twice the Price = Twice the Bike? [QuickTest#31]
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@@RocketMan_Moto Always enjoy your reviews! I haven’t signed on the dotted line yet, so still deliberating. Found the 1300 lighter and more nimble than the 1250. The adaptive height was great for my height - able to flat-foot easily. Performance is better, not that this was a concern on the 1250. The price is eye-watering, but if it does the job of my 2 bikes, there’s a saving in depreciation and running costs. The Transalp is too tall for me,
Fair enough… and thanks for watching my videos. Of course, the 1300GS is a lovely bike, but tbh I’d much rather have your Speed Twin & 1250GS. Seems like the dream combo to me😊👍
I'm a huge fan of Japanese architecture and maybe it's a limitation of yours that you don't fully appreciate the "boring" nature of this bike. Boring is nothing to be afraid of.
I am a limited person :)
My issue is that the KTM 790 is roughly the same price point....with tons more features and better suspension.
I'm so torn. I want comfort on the road but for me to buy this knowing all you get with the KTM is tough for my brain to accept.
The biggest problem I have with KTMs is the reliability. Not usually an issue with Hondas.
@@RocketMan_Moto that's really the only thing keeping it in the picture. Certain places around the world sold out almost immediately when these went live so that also says something.
Hondas are so legendary 😳‼️🌟🌟🌟
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Sounds like a great bike. Yr right about a light weight bike for off road. All the adventure bikes are to heavy, maybe for the dirt you should get a street legal Honda dual sport CRF 300L or variations. They only cost 5500 to 6000 and are so much lighter. You could use the money you save on the rocket 3😂
Sounds like a plan, Steve. Especially as there’s that 190hp Super Rocket coming next year🙏😀
Thanks cobba
You’re welcome, mucker😊
Being a Yank, I'm totally disappointed in the color and horsepower we are getting. I suppose I could have the ECU flashed and throw on an aftermarket exhaust but I just don't love this bike. I wanted to. I'm in the market for a new bike so I think I will keep looking.
Totally understand that. Happy hunting😊
Have you considered Tiger 850 Sport? Seems like a direct competitor as it is in the same price range and it seems appealing with the same 900 engine.
Great reviews, thanks for the content!
Thanks. The Tiger 850 is no more… well, until it gets reintroduced. Probably😊
@@RocketMan_Moto my bad, missed that it is discontinued. 😬 I think that the Tiger 850 is a bit more smile enducing than Transalp. I guess I should grab one while it is stila available at my local dealership. 😅
You note below that the American version has "different tuning." Is that the only difference? If so, why? Because I can't imagine why one would tune an engine to deliver 10MPG less AND 10HP less. Regardless, I'm picking mine up in two days. :^)
Enjoy
I will have to do a review about this new transalp… but just around my transalp 700 … I think it will be erease 😉😉😉😉
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I'm kind of torn between this and the Moto Guzzi V85TT... Power and Japanese reliability, or Italian character, torque, shaft drive, cruise control, etc.
Difficult choice. Local dealers could maybe be the deciding factor? My MG dealer is miles away, unfortunately…🙁
V85TT looks great but this is 'quite' outdated motorcycle. Take a ride. I tested it twice and I do not dream about it anymore.
@@podunkman2709 for me it was the opposite. I took a test ride just for fun and now I dream of it. But I’m already a Guzzi owner.
@@RocketMan_Moto lucky for me, there are as many guzzi dealers as Honda dealers in the south of France
I'm keen to try the new Stelvio
I am 6.1 (186cm) and I felt that my legs were in my neck on this bike. Angle between upper body and upper leg was too steep, had to cut the testride short.
Not a problem for me😊