OMF 2097 was the best fighting game on the PC back in the day. One of my earliest videos is of me beating two of the final bosses in it as Pyros. I played that game to death and back again xD . That game deserves a remaster!
Matt3o - the designer of the original WhiteFox - had no part of the design of this keyboard. He only allowed the project because he knew the people involved. He has posted a review of a prototype on his own channel.
Last time I was this early we were still using buckling spring keyboards! Love your channel! Is the biblo drink a reference to the hobbit pub in the UK?
@@lucidnonsense942 Yep, that's what I meant! Sorry if it was confusing. I even commented on the video where Chosfox's Arctic Fox switches appear, haha.
I must admit I don't get these keyboards. Heavy for the sake of being heavy, overly compact, and unnecessary features (magnets?). Looking forward to the review though.
It would be interesting to see your thoughts on the 8Bitdo Retro Keyboard that has been out for some time. Some of my "modern enthusiast" peers really hate it because it has a "hollow, clicky, retro" sound
No freaking way they sell the low profile crap at more than 150$ and there are people still buying it. With 100$ you can get the Moonsgeek M1W, 1.7kg of cnc anodized aluminum, smoother and louder switch. Sure, the keycap is worse but what stop you from buying a decent pbt dye sub set with the left over money? Heck, you can even get some second hand JTK or Keykobo sea of cloud which is very close to gmk quality.
@@jssmith0225 One of (if not the) best sounding keyboard switches ever. Whenever I think of keyboard sound its generally the alps keyboard sound (and generally clicky alps like the blues) that I think of...probably due to the first computers I used likely having them in it (old Apple IIs at my grade school...no clue what kind of alps and back then you just took however the keyboard felt for granted...but playing Montezumas Revenge in the school library on that integrated apple ii keyboard was always satisfying). If sound were the most important thing for me I'd likely be running on some sort of alps keys and the blues probably sound the very best.
For those not in NL, Rotterdam is a harbor city and known for a bit of a roughhouse culture, depending a bit on where you are. The knife joke is rather overstated, Rotterdam is not a slum like London. Obviously Thomas is not situated in R'dam , and I'm not in London :)
For some reason the whiteout style is very popular in gaming peripherals. Don't get it myself, I have many keyboards and I definitely prefer black or some color.
@@Chyrosran22 You actually inspired me to get a matias keyboard for my retro setup recently (I need a small keyboard as its basically in a printer stand/av cart). I had a FC660 or whatever the leopold 65% topre board is...and it lacked function keys and the linux distro I use to run my emulators on a CRT has a front end that uses the F-keys for a lot of things. The Matias keyboard had them so I got a Matias quiet click keyboard and was really happy with the key feel despite it not being likely as nice as actual alps (I tend to like a lighter feel and would probably love Orange SKCM alps, but I also don't want to deal with finding them in good condition and soldering them into a board). So far I haven't had any key chatter on it and I was surprised that the quiet click matias switches manage to have exactly the same amount of tactility that I have found I like (I have some TTC switches with a similar strength of tatctile bump but a little more drawn out that I like on my main keyboard, and I would have a hard time deciding which I prefer but I think the Matias switches have a slight edge as they are slightly more "fun" to press for lack of a better word). I really wish zeal would make a slightly less tactile version of the clickiez as I have a few of those (one is in my main keyboard's caps lock in tactile mode as there's NO WAY you are accidentally clicking that). I'm wondering if the gateron melodics will end up being that in the end.
As a developer I rarely use the F keys and even if I do I have them mapped on a different layer. That way the keyboard stays compact and I can take it everywhere. I guess it’s preference really.
Now that is some obscure classic there in your shirt.
Would be funny to see some ms-dos fighters included in your test suite.
One of my favorite games back in the day, used to play it with my sister all the time :)
OMF 2097 was the best fighting game on the PC back in the day. One of my earliest videos is of me beating two of the final bosses in it as Pyros. I played that game to death and back again xD . That game deserves a remaster!
I played so much OMF 2097 growing up! Was incredibly geeked to see that shirt
@@Chyrosran22 Pyros was my favorite to play, he had most awesome combos :)
Oh man, I haven’t thought about OMF 2097 in decades. Noice!
Matt3o - the designer of the original WhiteFox - had no part of the design of this keyboard. He only allowed the project because he knew the people involved. He has posted a review of a prototype on his own channel.
you should start adding a section in your reviews of overly foam dampened keyboards where you rip out the foam violently and put in clicky switches
Last time I was this early we were still using buckling spring keyboards!
Love your channel! Is the biblo drink a reference to the hobbit pub in the UK?
Yes it is! I used to come there quite often! ^^
Man, I haven't thought about One Must Fall in decades, thanks for bringing that back to mind Thomas. 😆
Missed opportunity to use Chosfox's Arctic Fox switches or something like that!
Already did them ages ago xD .
@@Chyrosran22 I think they meant; white fox using arctic fox switches, to stay on brand.
@@lucidnonsense942 Yep, that's what I meant! Sorry if it was confusing. I even commented on the video where Chosfox's Arctic Fox switches appear, haha.
If I were to want a great keyboard that's clicky, what should I get, how obnoxious can it be? (the more obnoxious the better)
In terms of pure volume, a Model F or box jade board is difficult to beat xD .
I must admit I don't get these keyboards. Heavy for the sake of being heavy, overly compact, and unnecessary features (magnets?). Looking forward to the review though.
It would be interesting to see your thoughts on the 8Bitdo Retro Keyboard that has been out for some time. Some of my "modern enthusiast" peers really hate it because it has a "hollow, clicky, retro" sound
Yes, that thing looks very interesting. Who knows ;) .
@@Chyrosran22 When I showed my unit to one of them, they immediately cringed and demanded to take it apart and put tape inside
Shrug?
@@jayeaaaaa butwhy.gif
I am pretty sure no one likes floating switches.
No freaking way they sell the low profile crap at more than 150$ and there are people still buying it. With 100$ you can get the Moonsgeek M1W, 1.7kg of cnc anodized aluminum, smoother and louder switch. Sure, the keycap is worse but what stop you from buying a decent pbt dye sub set with the left over money? Heck, you can even get some second hand JTK or Keykobo sea of cloud which is very close to gmk quality.
Looks like off-the-shelf Aliexpress parts with a lot of effort put in the WHITEFOX branding and packaging.
What switches were used in the recording of your intro?
I believe those are blue alps from the acer keyboard
@@jssmith0225 You are correct!
@@jssmith0225 One of (if not the) best sounding keyboard switches ever. Whenever I think of keyboard sound its generally the alps keyboard sound (and generally clicky alps like the blues) that I think of...probably due to the first computers I used likely having them in it (old Apple IIs at my grade school...no clue what kind of alps and back then you just took however the keyboard felt for granted...but playing Montezumas Revenge in the school library on that integrated apple ii keyboard was always satisfying). If sound were the most important thing for me I'd likely be running on some sort of alps keys and the blues probably sound the very best.
I thought the high profile case would have a thicker bottom than the low profile case, making the keys sit higher.
I'm getting really tired of the samo' borderless keyboards.
For those not in NL, Rotterdam is a harbor city and known for a bit of a roughhouse culture, depending a bit on where you are. The knife joke is rather overstated, Rotterdam is not a slum like London. Obviously Thomas is not situated in R'dam , and I'm not in London :)
I'm in neither :p .
I had a feeling you would like those melodics
Can you use the low profile plate with the high profile base?
Bilbo's juice, mmmm.
I really don't like the color because it makes the gamer gunk more visible.
For some reason the whiteout style is very popular in gaming peripherals. Don't get it myself, I have many keyboards and I definitely prefer black or some color.
Yup, it's a pry tool
melody switches sounded interesting
Those boxes seem so heavy, you could neuter an alpaca by knocking both of them together at its rear end with just medium enthusiasm.
wish he went back to hyping alps
Haha so do I to be honest! I might treat myself to a few days of using Alps actually, I think I deserved it xD .
@@Chyrosran22 You actually inspired me to get a matias keyboard for my retro setup recently (I need a small keyboard as its basically in a printer stand/av cart). I had a FC660 or whatever the leopold 65% topre board is...and it lacked function keys and the linux distro I use to run my emulators on a CRT has a front end that uses the F-keys for a lot of things. The Matias keyboard had them so I got a Matias quiet click keyboard and was really happy with the key feel despite it not being likely as nice as actual alps (I tend to like a lighter feel and would probably love Orange SKCM alps, but I also don't want to deal with finding them in good condition and soldering them into a board). So far I haven't had any key chatter on it and I was surprised that the quiet click matias switches manage to have exactly the same amount of tactility that I have found I like (I have some TTC switches with a similar strength of tatctile bump but a little more drawn out that I like on my main keyboard, and I would have a hard time deciding which I prefer but I think the Matias switches have a slight edge as they are slightly more "fun" to press for lack of a better word).
I really wish zeal would make a slightly less tactile version of the clickiez as I have a few of those (one is in my main keyboard's caps lock in tactile mode as there's NO WAY you are accidentally clicking that). I'm wondering if the gateron melodics will end up being that in the end.
@@Chyrosran22did your zenith bite the dust?
@@BlissBee no, still using it every day at the office! I meant clicky ones :) .
@@Chyrosran22 oh! Yeah it would be cool one day if someone geniunly tried to revive blue alps you'd probably be wetter than a dolphin
What's with small form factor keyboards almost never having the function row?
When did you last use the function row. F5 for refresh. Accidentally hitting F1 and getting useless help. I think I used F2 recently
@@AndyK.1 when i was playing baldurs gate 3 i used almost all of the F keys constantly. they're still useful.
@@Megatog615 Same for Diablo 2 really. Or F12 for screenshots on Steam, or F11 for fullscreen, several of them for DOSBox....
As a developer I rarely use the F keys and even if I do I have them mapped on a different layer. That way the keyboard stays compact and I can take it everywhere. I guess it’s preference really.
@@Chyrosran22 yes but have you tried mapping them to layers bro? just press the equivalent of ctrl-alt-delete every time you want to press F1!!1
Chyros sounds as if he’s already three reviews in …
The device for splitting the keyboard's box is properly referred to as a 'spudger'.