To XMAS And Beyond

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @BlackSpiderPro
    @BlackSpiderPro 11 лет назад +14

    Fun fact: In many Nordic countries we still use the original pagan name for Christmas, Yule (Jól) :)

  • @benvimes6821
    @benvimes6821 10 лет назад +20

    RE White Jesus
    The best way I ever heard it put was like this: "Jesus would have looked more like Sadam Hussein than George W. Bush."

  • @Aviatrix23
    @Aviatrix23 11 лет назад +8

    I'm a fan of Xmas as well, and I am SO calling all trees Baldur trees at every opportunity this year.

  • @joevignolor4u949
    @joevignolor4u949 8 лет назад +16

    You forgot to mention Santa Claus. I'm an atheist, but I still believe in Santa. As opposed to God, Santa is a pretty cool dude. He never gets angry and makes it rain until almost everyone drowns or sends people to burn forever in a pit. And people don't hate each other and commit murder and do torture and fight and kill in Santa's name either.
    And unlike God, Santa at least actually delivers something tangible that I can really see (and who cares how he manages to do it). Unlike with God, there is actual observable evidence of Santa's existence in the form of all those wonderful gifts that somehow manage to appear for happy little children to find under their Christmas trees on Christmas morning.
    Way to go Santa! Keep up the good work. See you again in December.

    • @mrfoltz
      @mrfoltz 7 лет назад

      I live in Canada.. I've seen him... I haven't seen god... :(

    • @kathyheitchue6069
      @kathyheitchue6069 7 лет назад +3

      Joe Vignolo Santa,aka st Nicolas was a Bishop I believe in Europe He tossed food and clothing down the chimneys of the poor,and did so anonymously. OUR VERSION OF SANTA with the sleigh pulled by reindeer is just another pagan symbol ( reindeer are a pagan symbol) stolen by the RC church and Constantine to convert the pagans to Christianity

  • @ademetal
    @ademetal 11 лет назад +8

    I saw that our neighbours had made their Christmas tree made out of green glassed beer bottles, I went round and shook their hands, I also said that drinking an entire tree's worth of beer must have been fun. They assured me it was!

  • @grambo4436
    @grambo4436 8 лет назад +4

    Merry Christmas, Yuletide, Solstice And A Happy Holidays To All People!!❄️🎄🌟🎁

    • @mrfoltz
      @mrfoltz 7 лет назад

      Happy X-Mass...

  • @Lustrogue
    @Lustrogue 11 лет назад +1

    Back when I was a Christian, and very devout, I met a very devout Christian historian. She had worked for years with other Christian historians to make as accurate a historical timeline for the bible as they could. Their research showed that Jesus would have been born some time in January, not December. It is believed that Christmas was adopted into Christianity and said to celebrate Jesus' birth to make it easier to convert Pagans.
    Personally, I think any holiday is a great excuse to spend money on those I love and enjoy my time with them. I don't give much thought to the "purpose" of these holidays, because I simply don't care. Spending time off with family, and buying items when normally you wouldn't, is a great way to reduce stress and bond, that's good enough for me.

  • @nordy2010
    @nordy2010 11 лет назад +11

    We all know that Commercialism and Profit is the Reason for the Season.

    • @nordy2010
      @nordy2010 11 лет назад +5

      ***** Uh... Did you even watch the video? Christmas begins and ends its connection to Jesus with the name. Almost all of how we celebrate Christmas (the trees, wreaths, yule logs, presents, etc.) are pagan historically. Jesus may be what makes YOU happy about the holidays, but he has nothing to do with how most Americans celebrate the holiday.

    • @LilyAubrea
      @LilyAubrea 11 лет назад +4

      ***** Go away troll.

    • @mrfoltz
      @mrfoltz 7 лет назад

      HUMBUG!!!

  • @jackdoubter
    @jackdoubter 12 лет назад

    Thank you for your kind words, AdelayeM
    .

  • @ISTABGLOF39
    @ISTABGLOF39 12 лет назад

    You are so right sir, we should all lighten up,
    have lots of Xmas fun and good cheer with neighbors and family

  • @jandreid1056
    @jandreid1056 11 лет назад +6

    One major plot hole in the story of Jesus: According to Luke & Matthew, Jesus' genealogy started with Adam down to Abraham down to David down to Joseph. But wasn't it stated in the bible that Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus? So wasn't he derived from the line of David? Big plot hole in the fictional story there.

  • @1955RodHot
    @1955RodHot 12 лет назад

    This was so much fun to watch, you leave me no choice but to share it with all my Christian friends! Merry Xmas!

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 8 лет назад +6

    You forgot the best part about Jesus' lineage. It is through _Joseph, who wasn't even his father_ because of the whole virgin birth thing xD

  • @LordMetalSonic1987
    @LordMetalSonic1987 10 лет назад +17

    Christianity has Pagan D.N.A., after all!

    • @Velamaya531
      @Velamaya531 9 лет назад +5

      Not surprised. They love taking from others beliefs. Being Pagan I just smiled the whole time and knew I was in the right. I was once Christian and figured out the lies and moved on.

  • @BroJo333
    @BroJo333 10 лет назад +7

    CHRISTMAS - Tis the season to buy crap with money you don't have to impress people who mostly don't care.

    • @mrfoltz
      @mrfoltz 7 лет назад +1

      I stopped doing that long time ago... :)

    • @kathyheitchue6069
      @kathyheitchue6069 7 лет назад +1

      Broth3r John LOVE IT😂

  • @pdxcorgidad
    @pdxcorgidad 11 лет назад

    This was great. Thanks for the upload. I watch it yearly.

  • @lukassnakeman
    @lukassnakeman 12 лет назад

    i love this video every year it comes out

  • @Nebihsom
    @Nebihsom 12 лет назад

    Awesomeness at its highest degree. Well done Seth(and all other involved), excellent stuff. Keep them coming.

  • @Getyurfactsstrait
    @Getyurfactsstrait 12 лет назад

    It's very amusing to use Xmas and be corrected. People of faith don't understand that people are not putting down their faith but actually going along with it. I tend to you use happy holidays to cover the all three holidays. Most people accept it as a good tiding others will go out of their way to reply Merry Christmas. It's humorous to watch people get worked up over something so trivial.
    Enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
    Happy Holidays to you and your family.

  • @Ring0fSaturn
    @Ring0fSaturn 2 года назад

    Thank you, Thinking Atheist! This is superb. There is of course much more that could be said about the appropriation of Pagan and pre-Christian practices, but you've provided a primer for any thinking person to pursue the historical truth. Well done, indeed.

  • @tlrodgers82
    @tlrodgers82 12 лет назад

    heard it all before, but still loved hearing it produced your way. great job as always, seth.

  • @DeathBlackWish
    @DeathBlackWish 11 лет назад +10

    It's thanks to this video almost a year ago that I started to think. This video led me to become an atheist.

    • @DeathBlackWish
      @DeathBlackWish 10 лет назад +1

      ***** Conflicting "gospels" do a hell of a lot more to disprove Jesus than to prove him. I'm much happier now that I'm not constantly worrying about an invisible sky wizard constantly judging me. I never plan to subscribe to any religion ever again.

    • @vgsdomingo1
      @vgsdomingo1 8 лет назад +2

      +History And Some Other Things I really respect you. You proudly announce with your head held high that you do what every other believer does. You interpret the bible and your faith to match exactly what you want it to match. You take what you like (Jesus being real) and leave what you don't agree with (creation). How fucking refreshing. Do you believe that the men that wrote the bible were inspired by your god? If you do, as most believers do, you stated that your all knowing, all powerful god made statements that are not true and that his word is filled with errors. I'd love to hear how you reconcile that. How the guide that we're supposed to use as his creation to get to heaven is filled with errors.

  • @jusakaju
    @jusakaju 12 лет назад

    I´ve been feeling a bit down of late but boy did this video bring a smile on my face:) I´ve been listening to the christ folk crying about us atheists stealing xmas agaian and it just makes me sick. So, a big big thanks to The Thinking Atheist for brightening my day:) Also warm and loving greetings from Finland to all u American atheists. Good luck with tryining to educate ppl and have a wonderful XMAS:) May the new yr bring more Americans to the world of reason. Hyvää Joulua ja Uutta Vuotta

  • @woohan3603
    @woohan3603 10 лет назад

    I stopped believing awhile ago, but I still love hearing Christmas songs during the holiday season.

    • @txvoltaire
      @txvoltaire 10 лет назад

      'Bug Off, Ye Merry Gentlemen'? 'Oh Little Town of Hackensack'? Yes, these are some of my favorites!

  • @KjellArneRekaa
    @KjellArneRekaa 10 лет назад

    I'm really looking forward to the Xmas holidays - with good food with family and friends and reading and playing fairy tales of Disney, santa and Jesus!

  • @eth6706
    @eth6706 12 лет назад

    I love you Seth. Your work is always so professional.

  • @GuacamoleKun
    @GuacamoleKun 12 лет назад

    Thank you for compiling all the sources of Christmas traditions here, so I don't have to run all over the Internet when I want to show them to someone!

  • @doobdoob2
    @doobdoob2 12 лет назад

    Great vid. Glad you added in the info about the contradictions found all throughout the new testament. I had forgotten a lot of that info. It was cool to see some new stuff thrown in there as well. Again great vid, I will totally use this in response to my christian relatives if need be. Happy holidays everyone!

  • @thetiredlinecook
    @thetiredlinecook 12 лет назад

    i appreciate every video you post...thank you very much

  • @rachellebout
    @rachellebout 11 лет назад

    This also put me in the mood to listen to a lot of Frosty the Snowman songs. They're so catchy!! :)

  • @Zylophila
    @Zylophila 12 лет назад

    I'm so glad someone got the history of Xmas correct! Thank you!!!

  • @realspacemodels
    @realspacemodels 12 лет назад

    You said on your recent podcast that you still say "Merry Christmas" to people and not "Happy Holidays". There's nothing wrong with either in my opinion, but saying Happy Holidays to someone ensures that regardless of their religious or secular views at this time of year, you've got it covered. Far from being insulting, it's inclusive.
    I love this video - life is so much better when you know the facts.

  • @Hopefulfilment
    @Hopefulfilment 12 лет назад

    1:05 In Sweden we still call it Jul (like Yule). Our Santa is called "Tomten". "Tomtar" were little gnome like beings in old folk myth that were quite grumpy but liked animals and helped in the barn if you were nice to them, on Jul it was (and still may happen for fun) common to put out some porridge to the farms tomte. We still have a tradition of eating Jul-porridge at Jul-morning.

  • @PolarJoMcKay
    @PolarJoMcKay 11 лет назад +1

    Interesting and useful to put together so many of what are clear mis-understandings. A couple hmmms I have wondered about. You talked about the lineage of 'christ'...what seems clear to me is why would early christian writers (not the apostles I'm afraid) have gone to so much trouble to claim Jesus was related to King David & Abraham 'through' his 'father Joseph' IF Joseph was not in fact his father? 2nd: I have read that Dec 25 was chosen by some Christians quite early on as a good day to acknowledge Christ's Birthday, and instead of pagan gift-giving, the 'faithful' could give gifts to Christ (which of course meant the 'gifts' were given to the early Church). Aha! I said to myself, now that makes lots of sense...Peace

  • @rtracewell69
    @rtracewell69 12 лет назад

    You do a fantastic job with these videos. Thanks and keep 'em coming!

  • @Wawagirl17
    @Wawagirl17 12 лет назад

    Its like Christians think they have a domain on the very concepts of enjoying and relaxing during the end of the year, spending time with loved ones, receiving and generously giving gifts, and having a good time with traditions. We can do that with or without supernatural interference or belief, thank you very much!

  • @ClothedByGrace
    @ClothedByGrace 12 лет назад

    [3]
    Solomon represents kingship (as he was a king of ancient Israel). Nathan represents the prophet element of Christ (as he was a prophet). Both Solomon and Nathan were children of David. Joseph descends from Solomon. Mary descends from Nathan. Matthew records Josepeh's bloodline. Luke records Mary's bloodline.
    In Luke 2:1 Caesar Augustus makes the decree. This decree is made when Cyrenius rules over Syria (verse 2). Mary is a pregnant woman. Wanting to care for her, Joseph takes her with him.

  • @ISTABGLOF39
    @ISTABGLOF39 12 лет назад

    Great work as usual,Seth: you put a smile into my day, Thank's

  • @AstrumG2V
    @AstrumG2V 12 лет назад

    My family celebrates christmas every year, not for worship, but as a time to be happy as a family :-)

  • @Nebucatnetzer
    @Nebucatnetzer 12 лет назад

    Great video. Was much needed. Some of the last videos where not quite on the normal level.

  • @TheWaluigiman1
    @TheWaluigiman1 12 лет назад

    I celebrate Christmas not for the religion aspect, but for the holiday itself. It's a time to get with your family on the coldest night and celebrate what makes them awesome by giving them presents or just your time. I'm an atheist but I still decorate my tree, have snowman competitions with my neighbors and even carol with my local church. It's all for fun and nothing else.

  • @concraft9293
    @concraft9293 10 лет назад

    These thoughts resonate today

  • @alphacause
    @alphacause 12 лет назад

    I am writing this on Thanksgiving Day. Instead of me expressing gratitude to an imaginary God, I want to express my gratitude to you Seth. Thank you for your advocacy of rationality, and I especially want to thank you for this video. Now, instead of constantly writing to people over and over again, about how our Xmas traditions have little to do with Jesus, I can point them to this superbly produced video. Thanks for bringing truth to a sea ignorance, in such a creative way.

  • @AntiSupremoFacist
    @AntiSupremoFacist 11 лет назад

    Wow!! Thanks this made my day....To Xmas and beyond indeed!!!

  • @CaptainAndy
    @CaptainAndy 12 лет назад

    Good to know we're honouring the most sacred of Christmas traditions: going on about while it's still November. :)

  • @hoorayforjazz7395
    @hoorayforjazz7395 11 лет назад +3

    Dear Seth, please send this to Sarah Palin

  • @ButBigger42
    @ButBigger42 12 лет назад

    I need to remember to share this when it is closer to giftmas.

  • @nikolai082700
    @nikolai082700 12 лет назад

    Concise, entertaining, wonderfully produced.
    Nice one, Seth. :)

  • @BRBhorror
    @BRBhorror 11 лет назад +2

    It's not surprising that the bible isn't consistent, it's a bit disturbing that people don't notice this fact though.

  • @LinkHyrulein
    @LinkHyrulein 12 лет назад

    Love it! Thanks Seth! Happy Thanksgiving!

  • @somfplease
    @somfplease 11 лет назад

    probably the best vid I've seen on this topic.

  • @NickKzig
    @NickKzig 12 лет назад

    I like this version a lot.
    Thanks!

  • @Punkette151617
    @Punkette151617 12 лет назад

    this is a re-upload but for good reasons.. this is one of my favorite videos to show people when they say im an atheist so i shoudnt celebrate christmas

  • @wallykaspars9700
    @wallykaspars9700 9 лет назад +1

    Forgot to mention that most appreciate Xmas for the the time off from a job...unless Xmas falls on Saturday.

  • @HenriZava
    @HenriZava 11 лет назад

    @TheThinkingAtheist Please, produce more of these kind of videos, and also animation videos, I miss it!

  • @thisisthenewpoop
    @thisisthenewpoop 12 лет назад

    I feel like I'm having major deja vu. Wasn't this posted last year during the holidays? I almost certainly remember seeing it....because I liked it. hmmm?
    Great video! I'm just confusing myself!

  • @FishHeadSalad
    @FishHeadSalad 12 лет назад

    Seth, long time fan....I address many of the things you bring up in this vid as well in my vid.
    You did bring up one point that I think is very important. That is that our government was able to, and did make the farcical birth of a specific deity recognized by law in 1870! And here we are now...150 yrs later....and it is still recognized by our government!

  • @Talamasca124
    @Talamasca124 11 лет назад

    Well done Seth. Thank you.

  • @tabsim
    @tabsim 12 лет назад

    Yes. Also, water is not wet and fire is not hot. You are truly well researched, my friend.

  • @saxmanchiro
    @saxmanchiro 12 лет назад

    Great overview of the origins of this holiday. I celebrate a few days off work, great food and reason to gather friends and family. The consumerism is the sad part of course. Spirits(liquid kind), food, music, family and friends. No baby Jeebus for us.

  • @jaihare
    @jaihare 12 лет назад

    Excellent wrap-up of the issues, Seth. I would just correct one thing. At the time of the Septuagint translation, it's safe to assume that παρθένος (parthenos) actually meant the same thing as עלמה (almah) - that is, a young woman. The meaning of "virgin" apparently crept into the use of παρθένος only later. In classical Greek, παρθένος is a common word for "young woman," and it's even used in the Septuagint in other places for girls who already had sexual knowledge.
    Best holidays wishes!

  • @steveharvey4245
    @steveharvey4245 11 лет назад +6

    It's merry yule :)

  • @abesboy1
    @abesboy1 12 лет назад

    Thanks for your civil and kind reply. I see the term "troll" often on these forums. I'm not totally sure what it means, but are you talking about a different use of the word here, as in like a leprechaun? Do you not consider that with all of the stuff that people report over the ages that the spirit realm exists?, not that i believe in leprechauns, but I interact all the time with the spirit realm. If only hitchens could send a message.

  • @paudy82
    @paudy82 12 лет назад

    As an atheist, I agree with almost all you had to say. To me, it doesn't matter whether there is a god or not. You believe there is and obviously that's good for you and you seem to follow the good teaching within the bible. It's your life, believe whatever you want to believe and don't let anybody tell you different. You seem to have good morals from what I gathered from your comment and to me, that is a much more valuable trait than belief in any god(s).

  • @Ziggletooth
    @Ziggletooth 12 лет назад

    I hope everyone has a good saturnalia this year...

  • @Bobgoober16
    @Bobgoober16 12 лет назад

    I'll pray for you.

  • @SummerSunshine1988
    @SummerSunshine1988 12 лет назад

    Merry Christmas and God bless.

  • @TheBahamunt
    @TheBahamunt 11 лет назад

    The best christmas song, one of only a few which gives a significant meaning to what christmas should be about, is "White Wine in the Sun" by Tim Minchin.

  • @LongTimeAtheist
    @LongTimeAtheist 12 лет назад

    Thanks SOOOO MUCH for the educational Videos!

  • @CYellowan
    @CYellowan 12 лет назад

    I liked the ending of this video very much, FOR A REASON.

  • @Chic01taliano
    @Chic01taliano 12 лет назад

    Always well edited videos from Seth

  • @sappysnuggles
    @sappysnuggles 12 лет назад

    nice job seth. i'm just curious, what video editing software do you use? thanks! happy xmas.

  • @TruthSetsYouFree2013
    @TruthSetsYouFree2013 11 лет назад

    OH YEAH! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!! LOVE THIS VIDEO!! Probably the best video on youtube,........EVER!!!!!!!!

  • @WilliamSmith-tj9jo
    @WilliamSmith-tj9jo 9 лет назад +6

    As a pagan , thank you. Love this.

  • @Forysan
    @Forysan 12 лет назад

    I hope you have yourself a Merry XMas as well Seth! I too will be celebrating the holiday--just don't play "Christmas Shoes" and expect me to not want to bludgeon the radio DJ with a 2x4 full of thirty year old rusty nails.

  • @tannedwillie1143
    @tannedwillie1143 11 лет назад +6

    Continuity. It's important for a believable story! LOL

  • @devimon
    @devimon 10 лет назад

    WOW! 1 minute of the video and I learn a lot.

  • @Aldhardt
    @Aldhardt 9 лет назад +5

    Merry Mythmas everyone!!

    • @grambo4436
      @grambo4436 8 лет назад +3

      +cody aldi Merry Mythmas!! To all and to all a good night.

  • @teresarossini9392
    @teresarossini9392 12 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing that... I can see how before we advanced enough to dissect and identify that they would believe... I have not, however, come across modern day Christianity preaching that the rib was regenerated... Odd as it may seem, I learned a great deal about evolution from a church school I had attended and this issue came up, but the teacher said "if you lose a limb it doesn't happen to your offspring..." I'm just surprised that Seth would ask that question after 30 years of faith...

  • @cyclenut
    @cyclenut 5 лет назад

    I would love to see a video on Christian state laws in the US.
    During the 70's when I was learning law, South Carolina had a law that made photography illegal. Cameras were Devil's devices and picture taking and development of film was Black Magic. From what I learned, these laws became common during the Great Depression. During the 50's and 60's Christians were the ones who wanted the laws removed.
    I have tried to find knowledge on the internet, but for some reason, I can't find anything.

  • @William81Edge10
    @William81Edge10 12 лет назад

    Love the video. Thanks keep em coming

  • @a88dl09m10
    @a88dl09m10 11 лет назад

    I want to share this SOOO badly....but I'm going to hold off until Christmas time.....and then it'll make more impact to my believing friends and family....maybe.....

  • @sbodnar1012
    @sbodnar1012 12 лет назад

    Thank you, I appreciate the reply! I wasn't aware of the term fideist, but you helped put things into perspective.

  • @PsycReaper
    @PsycReaper 12 лет назад

    This one has fully caught my attention, I'm fighting the urge to read ahead, because It's much more intriguing hearing it from mr creepy pasta himself

  • @sejembalm
    @sejembalm 12 лет назад

    "Learn not the way of the nations, ...for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” - Jeremiah 10:1-25

  • @XenoPredDragon
    @XenoPredDragon 12 лет назад

    Check! Check! ... Check! Think you covered it all.
    Good Jul from Scandinavia, Norway!

  • @TheNoHatCat
    @TheNoHatCat 11 лет назад +1

    The reason for Balder to have a mistletoe as a symbol is that he was killed with one.

  • @NarJackal
    @NarJackal 12 лет назад

    I love your voice, your like a white Morgan Freeman.(I know you don't sound the same, just have the same hypnotic tone) Thanks for your videos they keep me calm. When I 1st became an Atheist I wanted to rage educate the religious people around me. The way you approach non-Athiest helped me avoid some bad decisions that I'm sure I would've regreted later...so thanks Seth.

  • @RickyRyan
    @RickyRyan 12 лет назад

    Brilliant. This is why I'm subscribed (not the podcasts... :-/ ).

  • @SirFreelanders35
    @SirFreelanders35 12 лет назад

    It's a bit early to ask but can you make a video about the easter too?

  • @Danovio
    @Danovio 11 лет назад

    Exactly right brother!

  • @starlight7617
    @starlight7617 8 лет назад

    very good video, thank you for sharing, learned a lot !

  • @5602jerry
    @5602jerry 5 лет назад

    great info but please turn down the background music

  • @abesboy1
    @abesboy1 12 лет назад

    I honestly try to help atheists, and the response is usually much less than a "thank-you."
    Either way, I get rewarded well for my services, Jesus said; Matthew 5:11-12: “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.” Thanks people, ...and Merry Christmas. From Canada, with love.

  • @MrAntice
    @MrAntice 12 лет назад

    It's just as good as it was last year. I sense the beginnings of a tradition here :D

  • @txvoltaire
    @txvoltaire 10 лет назад +10

    Keep the X in Xmas!

  • @thidritoboladao
    @thidritoboladao 12 лет назад

    would it be correct to write "Xmas" in a composition or anything like that? (Inocent question!)

  • @Hopefulfilment
    @Hopefulfilment 12 лет назад

    I don't think there is any payments made at all when you use adblock. Thats why I don't use it when I look at videos from "the good guys" but turn it on if I watch creationist videos and similar. :)

  • @illegalmonkey
    @illegalmonkey 12 лет назад

    AdBlock for Firefox. I haven't seen an add on RUclips in years.

  • @IrishJohn023
    @IrishJohn023 12 лет назад

    Seth you rock!