Is Noelle Cracked Now With Furina ? | Full Build Guide & Calculation
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- An analysis of how much better Noelle became with furina, and how good her teams are in Genshin
00:00 Noelle Good?
00:45 Noelle's Healing
03:11 Noelle Driver Teams Analysis
06:59 Noelle Carry Driver
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She is technically an okay teammate with Navia, right? with Furina ofc
@@moxigene navia bennet furina should be pretty strong
@@moxigenenavia will be one of her best teammates
TGS: For some people, she never left... some poor bastards.
Me: How dare you, sir.
Noelle is pretty much a balanced character. She's one of my triple crowned and still using her. I like her design a lot.
It's good to see other triple crown Noelle folk.
Greetings fellow triple crowned Noelle users.
She far from balanced now she be hitting 100k normal attacks with her burst with furina c0
On my way to triple crown the best girl as well !
Hello, there Noelle Enjoyer.
C6 on field Dori guide now 😡
THUNDERING FURY DPUBLE HYDRO TAZER DORI LESGOU
Do it yourself then
4pc OHC + C6, mini Electro Noelle driver. 😆
Wait, is that a thing?
Um….why?
I'd love if you could make a video for Dori C6 too. There is not much out there on her synergy with Furina.
Same principle as Noelle: on-field healer who got a big buff with Furina's release. Dori c6 being electro allows you to use yelan whilst getting electrocharge swirls for kazuha, giving solid ST and AoE output.
Does C6 Dori heal the whole team?
@@SuilongV3 Yes with NA. She's comparable or better than Noelle's healing if you stack HP and HB.
problem with dori c6 tho is infusion last only a couple seconds and a lot of the time the claymore hits end up missing the enemy since her attacks are slow and her claymore is so small it doesn’t reach
@@hxnniboithundering fury gives you nearly 100% uptime
@@hxnniboi There's also the sacrificial greatsword that resets her skill, which gives her the infusion.
Little big for you guys to abuse: if you use Noelle's burst and swap out at the exact time, when the burst should run out (for example swap out to yelan and use a skill or whatever) and then swap back to Noelle, then her burst gets extended by a long amount of time. This only works with C6 and even is working when you don't kill any enemies
no need to swap out at the exact time, you just need not to be on field when the burst runs out.
@@GenshinYuppe yo that's what I meant. Just worded it poorly... Thanks for the correction!!
I'm not as big brain as you guys, like... I don't even know when her burst ends and that's not counting that it gets extending with kills lol
@@hedgehugs the burst has a 15 sec cooldown and 15 sec duration. If you see the number on your burst nearing 0 then it's time to swap
@@XLinkiboy pog. I might have been doing it accidently then lol.
do you know how long each kill extends her burst and the max stacks for it? or does that not even effect it?
Man I get good vibes watching your videos, keep it up bro
All that defense stats in the marechaussee set finally paid off! I currently use Noelle (marechaussee/redhorn 33/240), Albedo (opulent dreams/cinnabar 59/144), Gorou (Exile,fav) and Furina (golden troupe/Fleuve Cendre Ferryman r5, 46/165) and even though this abyss pushes you to bring more hydro than that, I was able to easily 36 star it!
What are your Gorou cons?
@@someonesomewhere8658 c6, both Gorou and Noelle. Furina and Albedo are c0. I now have a bit more crit rate and crit damage on Furina
I love your content, specially when you touch on differences between team comps on current characters.
In my experience, the only time that Albedo doesn't give my Whiteblind Noelle 100% Burst Uptime is when all the enemies die before he can generate enough particles for her from off-field.
how much er do you have
@@somethingaesthetic1944 129.2%
I’m loving both variants of Noelle’s Furina teams that I’ve tried. Triple Geo is like a hyper Noelle team and I don’t know why you’re downplaying her damage. Granted I used it last cycle on the rifthound floor with the spin to win tech which was essentially the perfect scenario for her hitting 6-7 enemies simultaneously. Yesterday I finally got around to doing abyss again and used the triple hydro variant with Yelan+XQ and oh boy did it shred all the pyro enemies on the first half. It was so effective that I don’t know if I could have 36* without that team. I mean the triple hydro core, not Noelle specifically. But with Fav on Noelle here the rotation was smooth as butter. It also allowed me to play some more unusual teams second half, like Keqing aggravate and Tighnari spread. This is the first time maybe ever that I didn’t use Nahida or Raiden on floor 12 and still got 36*. The only absolute top tier units were the hydros on the first half, and I think that’s pretty cool.
Oh I should add I really hope that Navia will fit as a sub-DPS on the triple geo variant! And that I have used that team on the Fontaine artifact domain and it clears in the same time as my Alhaitham quickbloom (35-40s) so that should say something too 😊
If using triple geo you should us gouro on exile that will lower furina and noelle er needs leading to higher team dps. Also a higher refine fav is great so you can get two fav procs from gouro per rotation.
Fav on Gorou at least for my Noelle triple Geo team
Yeah, was going to ask what artefact set he's using for Gorou for his calc about ER requirement because exile should be his BiS, even more in this team.
How do you get exile pieces? They don't seem to drop very often from chests, I think. Oh and I used most 4⭐ artifacts as fodder 😢
@@Max15691every boss battle rewards most likely have exile pieces in it
@@Max15691Elites enemies have a chance to drop them (like Hilichurls and Abyss Mages) So you can open your book go to the find enemy section sort by elite and kill all of them daily to farm the set.
Noelle Albedo Furina Yelan works well, I have around 140 ER and her burst is always up. Yelan can also be swaped for Fischl and Albedo for Gorou
I told you she'd be the Goddess she was meant to be with Furina
Idk who said it but
"She was maid for Furina"
Cyno is that you? @@SauravKumar-ki4bn
I use noelle yunjin furina yelan. Noelle is on serpent spine
I love it!! Its soooo fun, im so happy to use my favourite maid again!
I like this take. Yunjin can hold fav lance too
Can you do guids one specific teams... I got this idea after watching your wonderful video... An in-depth guides series for specific teams would be wonderful... I think it will hit for sure
Can you do a Furina team Tier list?
She works in so many teams but which are her best?
Bro released 4 videos about navia...one for noelle and completely ignored chevreuse😢
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An outtro salute! 🎉😊
It's great to see Noelle getting that recognition now. Unfortunate people don't give much credit to her own damage or going spin2win that reduces her damage. I'm going to keep using her in mono geo because it's the playstyle that I like (because I'm that type of geo main haha)
Edit was correcting some grammatical errors
i've had her materials sitting around for 3 years, now i can finally use her
Noelle furina yelan albedo comp is the one I really liked.
I like albedo bcs he takes no field time, you can set his flower before whole rotation and it will survive till next rotation unless it gets destroyed. Hence you lose less time of furina burst casting your setup.
You kinda need favonius in that comp as your geo particle generation is kinda low but it still does hurt a lot
Bro, I love the way you say Favonious :D
now let's see C3 furina and R1 redhorn, MH noelle using def/def/def at 64/200 🪨🗡
Edit: i run my noelle on 111% ER and never run out of energy, so it's weird to me that these calcs are seemingly based around 0 external particles from mobs losing hp/kills which is just not the case in abyss and most bosses are dead in 1 rotation
Noelle mains eating GUD.
Love how much Furina adds to the mono-Geo Noelle teams 😎
Love using noelle in abyss
I need to see this revisited with Navia! Will she outdamage albedo? Or even gorous buffs?
Can you make a video about the new healing artifacts set?
Uhh... mono geo team dmg DPS seems way too low? does this include gorou on exile for energy? does this include book trick for full CA spin? i'm getting over 72k DPS with r1 redhorn and furina c1 on 190ER...
I agree, this team definitely isn't meta shaking crazy but the numbers he displayed seemed way too low, mono-geo also should be better than the other team anyway because if you're running yelan and furina you might as well just do mono hydro with kokomi. I could be wrong tho idk
I wouldn’t include the spin exploit in calculations. Gorou on 4pc Exile would be fair, it would lower both Noelle’s and Furina’s ER needs.
It looked like it assumed Furina at C0 with fav and R5 Whiteblind, of course, numbers will be higher with higher cons and a 5 star weapon. Doubtful it's more worthwhile to get Redhorn than Furina's or Yelan's sig instead though.
No book trick, also c0 furina and kqm std investment. Book trick would decrease rotation lenght by 1-2s so that by itself is an enormous boost
@@TheGenshinScientist dunno if you've seen it but this sheet has hyper noelle dealing a lot more damage (even with redhorn na) docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ST5gl5rG6hd9f7BzcNbvem8jlUcvyQSjg-d9YrNmmk/edit#gid=123764839
What about a ninguang furina team + healer or/and prototype ambers
This would work with the mh set , how good would that be?
As I have a c6 ninguang laying around and I dont rly know how to use her
Bruv, I need that thumbnail art.
Did you assume Exile's on Gorou? I use Festering at 180%ER on Furina and 140%ER on Noelle and have not had any issues.
EDIT: ah just saw you did not assume book trick either. Fair enough, but would like to see an updated calc with book trick included - not sure how many CAs you ended up assuming so not sure how to modify the final number accordingly. Book trick also means CA is better than NA combo with Whiteblind.
If I assume book trick in my calcs it's about a 60k dps team (2s saved)
This is Navia from another mother. I hadn't had so much fun with Noelle than playing her Furina. But I personally went giga Vertical Investment into Noelle 😂
~Foxfire
what if you swap albedo with yela or xinq? is the team dps worse or better?
noelle best artifact for now? is it husk or new artifact with the golden troup?
This is the first time i heard someone recommending petra set on noelle and it actually not that bad.
Weirdly, my Furina C2, Noelle C6 R5SS, Yelan C0, Gorou C4 had almost the same clear time as my Furina, Dehya C1R2 wgs, Nilou C0R1, Jean C4 team on first half of current floor 12. I was actually quite surprised 😅.
Noelle had 4p Glad with Def, Def, Crit. And Dehya Hp, Pyro, Crit.
Personally, I liked my Noelle with Yun Jin, Furina and Yelan, thats especially though in current abyss so there's that, but itamazinnnnnng
This currently my favorite Noelle variation as well. YunJin isn't perfect, but I think people are sleeping a bit on her in this comp; I'm not sure that people realize that the normal attack damage buff from YunJin's burst is also amplified by all the damage bonuses and the crit damage value of the on-field character. If Noelle is on Serpent Spine, YunJin could be contributing almost 10k damage per enemy hit by Noelle by the time Furina's fanfare is maxed out, and that adds up fast - especially in AoE.
hmm.. i'm wondering. is this counting the Exile set+Fav on Gorou?
How strong is this Noelle yelan furina team compared to using Kokomi in her place?
Would MH be better overall than husk if you run a def goblet on Noelle? Gorou also gives a bit of damage bonus along with furina's huge damage bonus buff it could be worthwhile.
With husk ud be running into diminishing returns on the geo damage bonus due to gorou and mostly furina giving you so much already along with geo resonance as well.
One thing wasn't mentioned here is the fact how hard for Noelle is to get decent amount of crit rate with Husk. If you use standard stats ratio distribution it's gonna look better for husk, but realistically MH almost always gonna be way easier to build. Def% rolls also gonna be way more valuable on MH (on my Noelle these have the same value as cdmg!) and Gorou is very good steroid for offseting the loses from husk.
Still, from mine testings, def% goblet shouldn't be worth it in pure damage build.
@@D0kkuri yes I was gonna mention this too but felt the comment was getting too long, the extra crit from MH really helps in making Noelle easier to build as she really gets no free crit stats and she ascends in defense anyways so you might even end up with upwards of 3k defense by the time you are done building her especially with MH because all you are really looking for are Crit damage, and def rolls
kinda sad to see her hyper isnt the best team but im amused petra now is really a good option on her in driver
Keep in mind that currently, the hydro off-field damage dealers are mostly single target. While Noelle damage has a very big AoE
So even if Noelle's hypercarry team may have lower DPS, in many AoE situations it will still clear faster
The forbidden Qiqi Furina team guide when?
Who is the artist of the new art on your profile? I want to follow them!
Finally! I can build my Noelle. I have been looking for an excuse since I love armored characters. I wish they'd release more armored characters.
sometimes, I greatly regret those fav greatswords that I used as exp fodder during my early game... like I have none left! why didn't I use the bell to do that?
So for a c6 4* weapon noelle, the best team is double hydro with her being on petra and fav? Instead of like whiteblind hunter set?
Ultimately for team damage yes. Though if you can have every one burst off cooldown with the WB hunter then go for it.
What do you think of DEF goblet on noelle here? I've heard that it's not as good as a geo cup for damage, but would the bonus healing be worth it to increase average Furina stacks?
it's ok if u use redhorn
when you put it into a genshin damage calculator geo cup does significantly more damage. Defence for healing, but its not much better healing. Maybe 100-150 more healing per hit at most
Slightly less damage but you have a stronger shield and healing. Its generally better if you are using. crowned furina
Nope, Noelle is not a pure DEF scaler, she converts DEF to ATK, which stacks with her already existing ATK, so the diminishing returns for DEF with Noelle are worse than for example, how Furina scales purely off of HP.
can you make a cideo about wanderer with furina?
You left out what substats and main stats to focus on with the petra set in the video.
Did say full defense on a graph but yea. Think full def is better bc while you lose some dmg, the healing is more consistent
How much weaker is noelle c1 compare to c6 Noelle with Furina ?
I dont have Yelan or Kazuha. Would Xingqui and Venti or Lynette work as replacements on the Noelle driver team? I was tempted to build Noelle like this ever since i saw her synergy with Furina
I think Sucrose would be better
I'd say Lynette over sucrose since her q persists for a fairly good duration. Venti sort of depends since if they're small enemies that get sucked Noelle will hardly be able to hit them since her first three attacks are horizontal.
Man if would use her i should sacrifice yelan and furina signatures for a fav and that will be 60% of team damage has been removed.
Recently got a 50cv def sand so i tried it but it's not that good team.
The same thing applies for Kokomi right? She can also drive Furina teams while doing team-wide heals.
Kokomi, Yelan, Xingqiu and Furina is a cracked team.
@@db1777 Is Kazuha a good alternative to XQ? Or is the overall team damage better with XQ getting Furina’s buff as well?
when u need grouping, kazuha is better I suppose@@sadmansikder8354
@@sadmansikder8354 Haven't tested yet, but in single-target, with Xingqiu the dmg can be competitive. Also that allows you to trade basically all ER into offensive substats. Against multiple opponents however, i would almost always prefer Kazuha.
Yes, Noelle just has advantage in AOE and tank and possibility of buff using petra set. I think Kokmi is a better option in team without Yelan so double hydro Kokomi+Furina and idk some dendro and electro for hyperbloom or quicken
Could you do a video of Dehya Mona Furina and Bennett?
I know she's not that much stronger now but she is stronger!
It actually feels kind of good, I won't lie though the ER need is crazy high. *dehya tobi mcguire dance*
been a noelle main since day one, glad shes finally getting the recognition she deserves :))
i play her with gorou yunjin and yelan all with favonius weapons, yelan or yun jin will be switched out with furina whenever her rerun comes lol
Furina / Noelle / Gorou / Yunjin
Is this team good since i don’t have Yelan so i think i would go with triple geo and maximize Noelle dmg and be able to lower her ER by a lot as well
So Petra 3 Def with Favge?
Is it worth to craft Petra for Noelle (and i guess to have a zhongli set)?
For double hydro team yes
how abt furina and kokomi driver with 4clam?
I recent got furina and decides to build her as I don't have any geo at all
The new artifact set is better than Husk (besides Redhorn) for all Furina + Noelle teams or just mono Geo + Furina? ruclips.net/video/rLaDqPrMVZ0/видео.html
Prime example of how just being a carry is not enough to be relevant and it's a bigger detriment to have selfish field time at that. There's a reason why Neuvillette and Alhaitham are so flexible with teams and it shows here with Noelle too despite having the downside of generating no particles.
Hopefully more and more people who keep asking for every character to be played on-field dps understand this. Off-fielders are what is needed and what will allow people to run their favorites more effectively.
I wish i had albedo to replace yelan, i really like to do noelle spin with furina and i feel like its a waste of yelan damage
I use yujin yelan and furina
really fun
is c6 noelle required? I only have c2
I currently use, gorou(petra/fav),furina(goldentroupe/festering),yelan(emblem/aqua),noelle(hunter/redhorn). It destroys everything. Hoping I can get navia to work in here somehow maybe instead of yelan, switch gorou to noblesse, put furina on milileth.
I used Itto, Albedo, Gorou and C6 Furina on floor 12 and it crushed.
7:27 did you forgot about exile on gorou ? your er req seem high to me.
Id love a Dori furina guide. like other commenters have said there’s basically no information on her. she’s definitely getting dunked on far too much to the point there’s literally no guides let alone with furina.
I really appreciate the team analysis, especially the ER part but even if it looks good in the calculation, in practice I really don't like the team shown here that much (I tried almost every single Noelle team variation).
Yelan is 100% single target which means her DPS fell off significantly the more enemies is on the field (4:49 73k DPS is impressive but that is 2 5 star with 2 SIG and only against 1 enemy) This is especially the case in Abyss 12 first chamber (or some previous event where countless enemies respawn within time limit). When there are 2-3 enemies Noelle's DPS basically increases with them, most people don't have Furina or Yelan BIS cuz the weapon banner is a scam, and your F2P option is probably Fav/ER weapon anyway which means the best most flexible option in most situation is Noelle, Furina, Yelan, Albedo IMHO as Furina being able to buff everyone on the team instead of just herself and one hyper carry
8:50 BTW If you use Noelle as the main carry with Gorou, use Charge attack, your healing, and DPS will skyrocket while the Yelan team is forcing you to use normal attack only, and remember, this DPS is on a single target, when there are 2-3 enemies, your DPS goes up to 100k+ as Noelle can sweep the floor and even Albedo and Furina have some AOE tho it would be difficult to hit more than 2 enemies at once for them and when there are many enemies mean there are many energy particles so ER isn't a huge issue unless you are soloing boss but at that point use different build and team comp and you good.
Basically, although I get it, the math doesn't lie but in practice, I really disagree with Noelle team having "not exciting DPS". I run Abyss many, many times with so many different teams (I have 40++ chara lvl 90), and Noelle team although not top tier, it can easily compete with Meta teams in clearing the current abyss assuming everyone is at C0 (c6 for 4 stars) (National/Rational, Xiao, Wanderer, Hutao, Freeze, Bloom, Quicken etc). The fact that Noelle is almost indestructible and able to shield the team when their HP is low making the run much smoother and causing so much less retry is also not something to be underestimated, her true value is not pure as DPS nor single target after all. Like seriously I tried some variation of melt/reverse melt team and although they are powerful, they are so annoying to play in Abyss 12 cuz of how squishy they are and lot of team that usually can survive in abyss are struggling in current 12 cuz of how much dmg and attack that goes through shield is happening (Xinqiu+Beidou usually able to easily carry team through abyss cuz of how much dmg reduction and minor shield and healing they can do but I struggle to run 12 without healer right now).
Also sometimes people forget that bosses or just floor in general come in waves/phases so no matter how high your DPS is, you probably have to do multiple rotation to clear the stage which mean the DPS matter less in comparison to clear time, having continuous DPS can be a downside but can also be a strength. For example Ayaka Freeze on paper have crazy DPS against both single target and AOE but if the enemies dies without taking the full burst and new enemy spawn in completely different location you have to do the full rotation again anyway, this is true for Rational, Raiden hyper, Eula and many other similar team too. Or sometimes if you do too much dmg you might start a wave without energy which mean you have to gain energy to do burst and losing a lot of time battery at the beginning or the end of the stage. I love Raiden and I have her at C2 but srsly sometimes being too powerful can be pain so I almost always have more ER than the calc said I need for comfort in case my rotation isn't perfect.
Anyway, in the end, it depend on the kind of stage you are facing, the level of investment you have with each character, and constellation. I think at C1-C5 Noelle would be best used as pure support and healer with Petra set, even at C6 she would be able to do well in this role, especially against a single target where investing in Geo isn't the best option but the moment there is more than one enemy (and you have C6 Noelle, which most people do at this point) investing more damage into her and Albedo or whoever is the 4th flex slot is worth it
So in conclusion I fckin Love Furina man, although Noelle receive many indirect buff since the beginning of the game until now, they never made her able to shine or compete in the meta but now, I think she is easily able to compete with the average 5 star team and not struggling in clearing abyss anymore which is everything I could have ask for.
Is C0 Noelle still worth to build? I have C2 Furina.
Im planning to run C0 Noelle, C2 Furina, C2 Xingqiu and C6 Beidou/C0 Yunjin, will building the team still be worth it? I really only have C0 Tighnari and want to start building other units since im done building Furina (She alr has crowned burst)
To be honest pre c5/c6 her damage is rather lacking, although if you the Favonius and Petra set route it could still be worth. The larger issue is that without c1 you aren’t healing every time you attack in your burst witch means you’ll likely not heal enough without a lot of defense.
i'm killing any boss in the abyss within the buff window of gorou and yunjin. one rotation. that's less than 12 seconds. noelle absolutely broken. she was already before, now it's bizarre. definitely not the level a 4 star should have.
i don't have Itto but can someone tell me if Noelle as driver furina+ navia(sub dps) + kazuah or any other fill maybe? would be a decent team?
Likely better dropping Kaz for Yelan/XQ in this.
@@beastlygecko8706 ok ty :D
you may not see this comment, but ill leave it here hoping to get answer from you good sir. Im a big simp for underdog or somehow underwhelming characters in this game, several of the content creators talks about how good furina with jean and noelle and few also had a dedicated video explaining how xiao works with her. But Im really curious is how she works with Dehya? there was a myth back then that maybe .... dehya will be buff by some other fontaine character. But is she really good or not with Furina?
Support build for Noelle that lets Furina use DPS weapons works best for me. I have Redhorn, but energy for the team is just too much of an issue unless you use triple hydro that makes a ton of particles.
what about furina/yelan/gorou/noelle? gorou on petra and allows noelle to run MH. Noelle still on fav to allow yelan and furina to go aqua and festering instead of favs, gorou def buff also helps noelle with healing you hydro hp pools.
works similarly to the double geo team I've shown with albedo
Majority of Gorou usefulness is locked behind having 3 Geo especially if c6. Also if he's Petra that means you have to pick up particles with him, which is time Noelle isn't hitting anything lowering her damage and healing. At this point prob better using GMC/Ning/Navia.
Like I said, Noelle with Furina c2 is a monster now and it is fun to play, no problems with heal or shield at all.
Can you explain me the exact rotation of the Noelle, Albedo, Gorou, Furina team? Please.. 🙏
Furina EQ > Gorou E > Noelle (E)Q > Albedo E > Noelle N3D X 2 > Gorou E/Q > Noelle N3D X 2. The Gorou buff isn't always present sometime if you immediately use Q after swapping, it depends on ping, so the E first might be necessary.
Thanks a lot :) is it the same when i so "Spin for win"?
Would have to use albedo before Noelle so gorou burst into albedo then Furina then gorou skill into Noelle spin book trick.
She keeps evading me every single banner. Been using the shop to get her to C6. 😢
Good thing I'm a 1.0 player. I remember when everyone used to complain about how Noelle was in so many banners back then. But I predicted she'd become pretty rare as the game got older
Where did you get that sweater? Its fire
Nike sportswear tech
@@TheGenshinScientist thanks bro
meanwhile, your noelle is very cute
As a 3 years hypercarry Noelle main i can suggest:
-Furina: 4 Pieces Golden Troupe with Festering Desire/Pipe weapon
-Yun Jin: 4 Pieces Husk ER or DEF/DEF/DEF with Favonius Lance (try to stack at least 40% crit rate)
-Gorou: 4 Pieces Exile ER/DEF/Crit Rate with Favonius Bow (Gorous except for C4 doesn't need any stat, except for ER nad Crit Rate for Favonius)
-Noelle: 4Pieces Husk/Marechaussee DEF/Geo DMG/Crit DMG or Rate with Witheblind/Serpent Spine/Redhorn (with this team 130ER is enough to keep Both Furina's and Noelle's burst uptime on 100% even against single targets)
If you are lucky enough to have C6 Yun Jin, Noelle's shield and consequent healing uptime will be like near 100% (every 4 hit reduces her Skill CD by 1 second), and remember to cancel Noelle's 4th attack if you are fighting hoardes of enemies: It hits hard, but is very slow.
A full rotation is:
Furina Skill>Burst
Gorou Burst
Yun Jin Burst
Noelle Skill>Burst> start attacking
repeat this rotation every 15 Seconds/all characters Burst is ready
During Noelle's burst you can easily switch the other 2 geo's character to reapply Favonius's passive and reset Gorou's Buff with Skill
With 4pc Marechaussee, DEF goblet can also be viable especially with SS (or R1 Redhorn to some extent), to gain Furina's Fanfare a bit faster. And due to Furina's abundant dmg buff, dps output with DEF goblet doesn't have significant gap from Geo goblet.
wait a minute
in the last video you showed that itto mono geo does 53K DPS and now noelle with furina is 51K DPS
am i missing something i thought people said noelle is better than itto now?
With the book trick that extends noelle's CA the team becomes 60k. I assume ppl account for that trick when they say noelle better. Either way, her driver teams are generally better
@@TheGenshinScientist interesting and yeah her driver teams are easier to play with lower ER req
Omg, will you ever stop being handsome? I'm so in love with you 😍😍😍😍😍😍
What's this about buttering characters?
why gorou instead of yunjin...? also noelle hyperbloom with furina nahida shinobu is a great team too...
Why not? Gorou is way better in mono/triple Geo. Especially at C6.
Are you going to do an analysis of Noelle-Navia-Furina-Yelan with Noelle on redhorn MH? Thats what im WIP planning, I wanna actually challenge myself in this game mechanically and get dragonstrikes down without double anemo, even if yelan will suffer with the plunging of Noelle.
What about c0 noelle?
I lost my 50/50 when trying to pull for Furina. Hold me bros
I just need one Con to get c6😢
it's ittover
Still stuck at c5, sad
Of course your Noelle damage is low, you're using Petra. Petra buffs the element that gets crystallized, but not geo. Try Husk or Bolide for better results.
Is the assumption with c0 Noelle or c6 Noelle?
c6 noelle
If you're an feald Noelle is not getting enough energy particles that means you're team is not properly built my dps Noelle as 0 issues with energy
I want to use def sands but its just a dmg lose over atk sands
Atleast for my build
@@anime4rz For pre-C6 ATK% is okay, but C6 use DEF%. DEF provides higher infusion buff, healing, and shield strength. Three birds in one stone.
How much worse would the team be with xq instead of yelan (i don't have yelan)
Not sure on others but my XQ provides 8-10% less with almost the same stats compared to Yelan. XQ provides other utilities tho so he's also good on double hydro/geo team.
yelan is better because her passive buffs the on field dmg increasingly over time up to 50%.. thus increasing noelle's dmg too.. yelan herself does more raw dmg than XQ too... and noelle being able to shield and heal don't need XQ little healing and interrupt resistance.. and neither are we trying to apply more hydro to have consistent vaps either... so yelan is a straight up upgrade over XQ since the other parts that XQ offers (that yelan does not) does not benefit noelle's team...
@@thewackykid I know it's better, I asked *how* much
I mean it would work fine tbh, you'll be tankier so the shield will be harder to break but lose out of a bit of damage. The extra defensive utility is often overkill but doubt you'll notice a massive overall difference in clear speed, it will be a bit slower though. Would be a bigger difference if they both had 5 star weapons, but if Yelan would be stuck with 4-star options anyway the damage difference isn't as large.
Using a Noelle f2p here, with husk and marachuse, tried both, whiteblind r5 and r1 in other account, bad artifacts and decent marachuse artifacts, nothing fancy. Not crowned. Furina C2. I tried them with Albedo, fishcl, and yelan. My Noelle, which is decent F2P, destroys everything in this game, abyss included, and the last one which was hard, which shields and all kind of shit. Used the other Noelle I have which is using poor gear and R1 whiteblind with husk, bad sub stats, the same, destroys everything. I get 100k hits with the bad one, so much more with the other. Maybe it is because of Furina c2, but for me Noelle is better than most carry in this game. Energy problems? none. About health? no problem, I used hyperbloom with kuki and other with kokomi and had problems, no problem at all with Noelle. I was using Itto last year and stopped because of how bad the geo carries were, and still they are, but Noelle now is my favorite character.
How does Noelle driver compare to Kokomi driver?
Worse by quite a lot
@@FliponYT I’ll stick to Kokomi driver then
I personally used the taser variant for this abyss except I put 4 piece gambler’s set on Noelle. The synergy here is that I can have 100% skill up time due to the passive of killing any enemy resetting my skill cooldown. So essentially I just set up fischl, furina and kazuha and right after that I spin to win and usually whenever oz despawns I try to reset and my noelle has cooldowns all ready again (this is specific to multi-wave and aoe). Downside to this build is I’m doing maybe half the damage on Noelle on a 5* good substats built and if you miss a kill it can extend the rotation a bit, but also it’s very unlikely to happen since spin to win ticks very quickly.
It’s probably not exactly meta because with tighter rotations and less errors I’m confident 5* sets would probably do more damage with perfect play, but I did clear all 1st half chambers in the 90 second range making mistakes like not killing samurai at same time or not procing set at key times, but fun concept to test out if you have a gambler’s set built (my set has an attack sands and it works).
umm that's kinda cool but Noelle's 4th ascension passive reduces her skill cooldown - a lot if she's doing charged attacks
So wait the huge buff that Noelle got is …… being a fav and Petra slave for Yelan and Furina? Lol the way how people are talking I swear the character was actually useful as a carry now. Smh.