The Stooges: I wanna be your dog guitar sound of Ron Asheton
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The Stooges and MC5 were quintessential to shaping the future of punk rock. My personal favorite Ron Ashton tone was on the Fun House album. That wire-y strat sound with the fuzz kicked in on "Down on the Street" is absolutely destructive
Kick ass tone !!!!
what do you mean by wire y strat
asking cuz i wanna get this sound
@@oddfutureisdopeasfk Wire-y like how Ron Ashton had his overdrive sound very bright and brittle. For example, Fun House Ron was using a Strat bridge pickup into Marshalls. This is also reflected in the nature of the Fuzzrite sound, it's bright and abrasive.
@@oddfutureisdopeasfk That's how he was able to sit well on top of Scott Ashton's pounding drums and Dave Alexander's driven rubbery bass (he was using a Mosrite Ventures with neck pickup only, also running into Marshall)
That sound is why I learnt guitar. Thanks
That's what its all about.
It's about time someone had the balls to do The Stooges. Thanks!
Cheers John.
I just love the fuzztone of that song. And long live Iggy!
I saw Iggy 2 years ago and let me assure you he still tears it up. They have more attitude and heaviness than most modern metal copycats.
Agreed.
I met Ron and Scott Ashton on that ghost ship in Long Beach in 2002. Down to earth heroes
I remember I first heard Raw Power in about 1998 when I bought the Iggy remix from that huge record shop that used to be on Piccadilly Circus (Tower Records? I can't remember) that's now long gone. I can't remember why I even bought it: I didn't really know Iggy other than "Lust For Life" due to the resurgence it was having at the time via Trainspotting. It was like someone firing up a blowtorch into my face the first time I heard "Search & Destroy". That outro. Holy fuck. Absolutely thermonuclear. Instant love.
Awesome.
I flipped out when I learned this came out in '69. So ahead of its time. You nailed the sound of the record - spot on.
Thanks man. Yep it's seminal.
You have great taste because I think you were 1 of maybe 73 people on Earth who liked the album when it came out. Of course the haters were so wrong.
Why I've been playing guitar my whole life , actually...FUNHOUSE best LP ,ever.
Still no one like The Stooges! But for me a guy called Tony from Birmingham destroyed the hippies ;)). Great video thought, keep it up Owen, we need you
Iommi killed the English hippies, Asheton killed the American hippies ;). Then the genres they helped create killed the complacent movements as a whole
Tony is the ULTIMATE RIFF MASTER !!
My Mom took an infant me to the Cincinnati Pop Festival but we came after Stooges played (the peanut butter incident!). Of course, yearslater I'm asking her why and she said "Oh honey, nobody liked the Stooges!". Well, I was there for Alice Cooper Group!
Haha. Oh man. Unlucky.
That sounded great man, thank you.
Thanks!
Good RAW Sound, when music started getting heavy...
Cheers Steve.
Can you do King Crimson "Larks tongue in Aspic" Era? Love Robert Fripp's tone from that time. There are a few interviews where Fripp talks about his tone, his pedals and his play style. He used a hi watt dr103 with a jump lead from the brilliant to normal channel.
Absolutely. Fripp is one of my favorite guitarists.
Love it. I'm a huge stooges fan.
Thanks Fuzzeh
This is exactly the type of stuff i subscribe to your channel for. I think ive made every band ive ever jammed with play i wanna be your dog at least once, never would have thought to just simply turn the fuzz off for those parts haha. Thanks man!
Haha. Yeah it took me a while to realize that.
I loved the use of this song in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels .... so powerful.
Yep. For those who never saw it, watch the movie, but here is the scene: ruclips.net/video/Q_5EYbBTisI/видео.html
They used it in the runaways movie too and it was killer
@@brettboden3571 Yep. It's the soundtrack to most subcultures.
There's absolutely no filler on the first three The Stooges albums. Perfect from the beginning to the end.
I thought we will fall was filler but it is actually a good song just seemed even weirder than the other weird songs
Kick ass! Thanks man... very cool! 3 versions exist... a precursor to the one you have which resulted in a cease and desist from Ron's estate attorney..lol , which let to the RCF in your hand... both modified versions of the Fuzzrite. Then the Germanium Vox Tone Benders with Ron's face on them, which his sister Kathy was kind enough to license to Daredevil. Those have all been sold off and the last one, which was my personal one, I ended up gifting to Wayne Kramer... for obvious reasons. So that's the short of it.. The RCF / Jaguar artwork are still available up on the Reverb page. RnR. -Johnny
That's very cool of you to gift the last one. Love the pedal. Good info.
ron asheton is my guitar hero.
The singer in one my bands wanted to play this song. I was not into Iggy or the Stooges, but when our singer went balls in I knew the simplicity is deceptive. Killer episode. Cross referencing to your own video on Hendrix is a powerful way to hook viewers i think, Owen And plugging your gear does not detract - your passion is evidently what motivates this awesome channel. Have a good one this weekend !
Thanks man. Means a lot.
Another really interesting and enjoyable one. I love the contrast with the bloody raw guitar against the Christmas Bells.
Amazing. You excel at capturing the tones of the greats.
Thanks man
Well we meet again after your fantastic Danzig video last year, you have a badass channel my man
Well I got sumthin to say
15 mins is all you need. Remember Circle Jerks? Doubt many will as more metal channel but everyone should know Group Sex
Robert Goldie Does Hermosa Beach count as LA as probably about an hour away. They need to be looking at The Germs, Bad Religion, FEAR or X to name just a few. East and West Coast have some great punk bands and even the suburbs like Fullerton
Robert Goldie Amoeba :) I was also thinking of Social Distortion. I also seem to remember Agent Orange being out that way too
Robert Goldie Cool re: Bloodstains. I was a little later so it was Rancid, NOFX etc for me but I got into the history of western punk later going from The Sonics through MC5's to The Stooges, Ramones etc. I know what you mean re: Social Distortion but I like Mommy's Little Monster the debut and I think I have a few more but the bands I really got into from that era were Bad Religion and Dead Kennedys. I got to hang out with DK too albeit not Jello but DH was amazing and the size of his arms can't be underestimated. The man is huge. He said he swapped drugs for working out. He must have taken a lot :). Also the only guy to be kicked out of the Chili Peppers for his bad behaviour. Anyone who has read Scar Tissue will know for someone to go beyond that is as extreme as it gets.
Hefty Alan 14-2minute gems that scream keep it simple stupid
ill76 Mao Some were even shorter than 2 mins. Still gets in the Greatest debut albums of all time list
"You could say I was missing raw power" made me chuckle.
Great video man. It really took me back to a Iggy and the Stooges concert maybe 10 years ago
Thanks man.
I like how the camera shows us your signal chain while you playing. Nice touch
Cheers Brett.
Easily one of the most influential guitar tones of all time. Inspired an entire generation of punks to turn their amps to 11 and hit the stage with the fury of a million angst-ridden teenagers.
Hell yeah.
''You certainly nailed Ron's Tone There Owen. Great choice, I love The Stooges. Superb Tribute & Great & Useful info as usual. Thankyou mate. Iain North UK.
Thanks Iain.
That sounds exactly like it! I love the Stooges!
Thanks Sean.
5:07 basically me for Ron Asheton lol
Hehe. Can't go wrong.
I am in michigan, home of the stooges, and mc5. We are proud of our contribution to proto and punk!
You should be. Epic.
Ramones is New York through and through
That's Junky Rockabilly pop rock. They flopped originally and only got famous from a bump from the Sex Pistols. True punk origin = The Damned New Rose. That put punk on the map. Everything else was just branches from garage/glam/rockabilly rock. Stooges were proto etc. Huge influence on the genre.
Man that was great! You can almost smell the dirt and feel the Detroit soot on your skin with that demonically filthy riff. Thanks for the link; I can't believe that I had missed this one. If you dig that sound you may enjoy a Pacific Northwest band from the 90's called TAD. Great riffs that reek of the smell of perspiration laden flannel and molding basement cement on a foggy afternoon. I'd recommend their songs Delinquent and Giant Killer as an appetizer. Great work once again!
Yeah I remember TAD. Filthy honest stuff.
I thought u were gonna say melvins
Great work, great commentary as well
I love it because it’s so REAL.
Yep. 4 dudes playing together.
Well, I'm kind of partial for my beloved EHx Big Muff π, a germanium Fuzz Face or even a Catalinbread Sabbra Cadabra, but I have to admit: even though I'm not craaaazy about the Fuzz Rite, it definitely has a character! I do think Ron went over the top while recording that Stooges album, but damn, it's hard not to like all that noise and weirdness hahahaha great vid, my man!
Thanks man! As it happens I have a big muff in front of me as I type.
I like this intro form
Thanks man. I'm changing it to that.
That was scuzzy as fuck, well done dude. This is my favourite guitar-based channel on youtube by far.
Thanks Mat. That means a lot.
I was into the dark thrash stuff when I first got this album and Stooges,MC5, n Blue Cheer just blew my head off! This sound was the death of the “summer of Love”
war across the usa
That makes sense metal got kinda corny after the late 60s and early 70s
LOVE. IT!
The Stooges came out with their album 50 years ago so because we’re going into the new decade maybe a change is bound to happen pretty soon who’s knows maybe someone will plug directly into an interface with the gain maxed out and that will become the greatest thing ever
Btw On The note of fuzzes, would you ever do a video talking about the differences between popular Fuzz Pedals like the Silocon and Germanium Fuzz Faces Or the many different transistors used in the Big Muff Pedals Or Talking about Japanese Fuzz Pedals maybe (eg Univox And all that)
I would like to get some more germanium fuzzes to line up vs my silicone fuzzehs.
Great choice. Tune!
Love it!
That was fun, I liked the tone and it I think the feedback is just feedback, it can be produced artificially for recording and then for real in a live environment using different rig settings but you sounded damn good and authentic to my ear.
I was half tempted to get feedback and blend it. Hehe.
Dope stuff as always
Thanks Tiinesh.
I use BOSS FZ-2 HYPER Fuzz on Fuzz I mode , with BOSS DS-1 Distortion (dist on zero) for the feedback in the intro.. and it is spot on..
I think Orgy used that. Great underrated band along the Nu metal era.
The producer was a Welshman of course, John Cale.
John Cale was there for velvet underground and stooges so very important
This is a really good one - think you made a great job of this. Makes me want to do a cover of it.
If you can be arsed I'd love you to do the sound from True North by Bad Religion (specifically the song True North). There's this Marshall sound in it which is really overdriving, but it doesn't do that flubby thing that old Marshall's do when they're pushed hard - it stays really tight, and it doesn't sound like they're boosting it with anything.
That is something that has to be done eventually.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Cheers
It took the world what, almost 30 years to caught up to the Stooges? pretty ahead of their times in that case
Yep.
You should read the Iggy Pop/Stooges rider for live gigs. It's hilarious, but does a complete rundown of their (preferred) gear for live sets. You can find it on their website. Just google it.
That is gold.
Great commentary
Love it 100%.
Great scene from a great movie. Definitely emphasizes the absolute kick to the balls Eddy feels after the card game. Especially with the disorientation the camerawork creates.
Nice to see some decent music on here. Punk Rock :) RIP Scott Asheton. "Filler" WTF. Get Raw Power on no filler. This album is so cult one punk rock legend has a tattoo of Search and Destroy. Ron plays bass on this album with James Williamson on lead. Not a move Ron was ever happy with and after that album rarely had a good word to say about Williamson
Hehe. To be fair half that first album was litteraly filler because they only showed up with 15 mins of songs and Iggy lied that they had more.
Yes, yes, guitar. But _dat bass_. Love how high in the mix it is.
Yep. Another modern irk is lack of bass. "supporting the mix" was a nail in the coffin of rock and metal.
Interesting and informative video. Nice job!
This vid is great
Detroit!
Great vid, and thanks for turning me onto a cool album that I'd never heard. How do you like that seismic 2x12 btw?
Yep it's awesome. Annexing quality for the price.
Ron asheton acutally recorded with a Flying V for the song. Mosrite is the same fuzz as in a Gadda da vida
Yep I mentioned the V. I don't have one. Good info.
The Fender Hammertone Fuzz nails this tone. $80
Nice!!!
Cheers Joe.
Can you please do a video on Daniel Ash either Love and Rockets or Bauhaus era please
Bauhaus will be done for sure
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Hell yea thank you o much! One of my all time favorites however the guitar tones are often so overlooked, there's not really any videos I can find talking about Ash's guitar tone. Can't wait your videos are so amazing!
"You can't kemper that bitch!"..amen!
Haha. Great tool but... Where are the classic albums since supposedly we have the best amps and studios in the world inside a Kemper? Lots of vanilla sausages and no bangers.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Couldn't agree more!
I always thought he used a super fuzz it's what I've always used for it.funny the way I record always have everything bleeding into each other then I do overdubs but I get a great raw sound that way but in the end it's always not loud enough after mastering every cause I don't leave enough headroom to boost the volume any further lol 😆
He used T-Top pickups from the era. Somebody, I think Lollar, make a replica from the original pickup used on the recording.
Awesome info. Early to late 60s is my fav era pickups.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Actually, it is Lollar, but...
“Sometimes you have to go to the source. This pickup is based on the Les Paul that guitarist James Williamson used on the Stooges' 1973 classic release Raw Power. A musical touchstone, the album is widely considered a major influence in the creation of punk rock. In 2009, on the eve of a reunion tour for Iggy Pop and the Stooges, Williamson left the Les Paul he used on Raw Power at the Lollar shop for several weeks so our team could study it. We took the pickups apart to undercover its secrets, and with Williamson's permission, created duplicates of the original pickup set, which are late 1960s Gibson T Tops. Now you can grab some raw power for yourself. Made with Alnico 5 magnets, it features double black bobbins and no cover. Single conductor braided shield lead wire.”
I said we will have a real cool fuzz tonight! Lol
Sorry this isn't related to this vid, which is outstanding btw. But have you done AC/DC? I'd really love to have your take on what makes Angus' tone come alive. Cheers buddy. Love your stuff!
Yep it's part of an ongoing series. I've since bought an SG to blend the with the other guitar song with a JTM45 style amp ruclips.net/video/P43ACU7zHlc/видео.html
I loved recording a demo in a mic-ed up room, all playing together. Yeah, we were shit, not good musicians in a shit studio with crap equipment, but I loved it. The result, well, not the best, but I think all music should be recorded that way. Everything else is fake. Imagine a classical orchestra doing recording that way. Just the 100 musicians doing their thing on a separate track, massive post editing, repeating one good snippet of the take 15 times, and just add the 100 tracks together. Would anybody buy that recording? I doubt it.
Agreed. We need character and chaos back in rock and metal.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE And punk especially. I am going to assume you are not really into punk, but how punk is it when some producer just mega-edits your guitar to sound groovy on the record? I am not a punk, but I get the attitude. I was at some festival as a kid (back when festivals had good music, but it was already about marketing and ripping off foreigners etc), and it was super expensive, so we were eating food that the rich foreigners left over, and pizza slice dropped on the grass, stuff like that, and I saw people dressed like punks queueing for like a 10-dollar hotdog. I was like, how "ture" is that?
Hey man. If you're not already researching this, how about Savatage? P.S thanks for teaching this young 'un how to recapture that what made those who came before great.
Thanks man. Great suggestion. You should start a thread on the Circle of Tone facebook page
for some reason the sleigh bells always made wanna be your 🐕 so much darker...
Yep that was essential to the vibe.
It does not get much worse.
Badass tone. Very nasty hippy repellant. Good job.
Hehe. Yep.
I love fuzz into a cranked tube amp ...
What if you pulled two of your valves, then ran into the cab at 50w?
I also love track bleed.
Great idea but I tried that on ACDC and the results were not worth the hassle.
Sounded perfect to me. Not the biggest fuzz fan myself even though I love music from the 60's.... including some of the hippy shit, but mostly loving that psych rock shit.
You should cover Coven (60's band) and The Moody Blues next.
As someone stated earlier in the comments, live off the floor or die.
Nights in white satin is a great idea. Bust out the acoustic for a change.
Lots of good stuff to choose from and unlike most bands they evolved successfully over the course of their career. At least up to the end of the 80's.
How about an attempt at The Ramones?
Good shout.
How about Helter Skelter from the Beatles??
Wanna talk about bleeding I found out if you listen to Seek And Destroy with only the right ear bud in the beginning you can hear a faint guitar in another room or something. Also same applies for Ain’t Talking Bout Love.
Yep. I think ain't taking bout love is his effects on one side (reverb etc) and the guitar on the other but there will be bleed too.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Hmm didn’t know that. But think you could look into recreating Slayer’s tone?
Has to be done.
Good likeness.
There’s NO filler on those first 3 records.
I thought we will fall was filler but then I started to like it
I recommend doing a video on Deftones and their interesting, depthy tone, if you haven't already.
Great suggestion.
Yo this was amazing,you should try to do electric warrior by T. rex,Marc bolan‘s tone was killer
Yep that has to be done.
CIRCLE OF TONE. Thank ya🤩
Hey Owen....Q why are so many so down on the celestion 70/80 speaker? Always comparing to a vintage 30...but if everyone had a vintage 30 then we would all be part of the vanilla sausage sound...the 70/80 sounds fine to me...
It's just not a musical speaker to my ears. I am a fan of underdog gear like WGS etc but that 70/80 isn't one of them. I'm being general. Dimebag got people going with some of the worst gear I've ever plugged into.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE what would be the best speaker for a 112 cab playing mostly rock/metal...not djent....vintage 30...75 greenback?
@@torahwarrior2442 you can't go wrong with a British g12t-75, 75w cream back or a WGS 65. Don't get a Chinese celestion or one of the greenback reissues.
There's no filler.
half of this album was literally filler because they only had 15 mins of songs written and Iggy lied that they had more. Which is punk rock.
I hope you go into production of other bands, if you're not doing it already, you're a master producer
Thanks man. Here are the ones I have done ruclips.net/p/PLZyUVK67V9QI0qW2Q4oyX0xb2GDK2U1Zu
About time someone gave love The Stooges and Ron!
It's refreshing to see a guitar video without some boring douche telling you about some Prog Metal / Rock techniques that has "Clean Distortion" and excellence in dexterity! YAAAWN!!!
This is Rock n'Roll ⚡ ⚡⚡
Would love to see you do another video on the Stooges....Search & Destroy from Raw Power would be sweet!
That songs pretty darn hard to nail!
Thanks man. That means a lot. Yep Raw Power has to be done.
A bit of MC5 wouldn't go a miss either 😉
Showing some songs that display attitude and the beauty of simplicity would be great!
That's what's missing in Rock music! It's all become a bit bloody white collar and polite, it isn't fun or rebellious anymore!
There is a thread on the Circle of Tone facebook group that talks about the the mc5 kick out the jams gear. Another great suggestion.
BTW you are speaking my language re rock watch this ruclips.net/video/YCoqAjrGOo8/видео.html
Sweet man!
Yea dude if your doing a Stooges video you gotta roll out some MC5...
Kick Out The Jams / Looking At You / Poison are some bad ass MC5 tunes ⚡⚡⚡
Just watched the video....
Dude.... Every thing you say is spot on!! Couldn't agree more !!!
🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
stooges fuzz is the best fuzz there is...
exactly what pedals and pedal order did you use to get Ron's signature tone?
Power chords start off with the real cool fuzz and Marshall distortion together, then when the riff starts I switch the fuzz off so it's just the Marshall for most of the song.
Any chance of doing The Groundhogs? I knew Tony McPhee personally for years until we lost touch about 10 years ago. He's not well after at least 6 strokes, sadly.
You did the Stooges. How about the MC5?
That would be a fun one. Blow some speakers.
I always liked the Stooges guitar tone more than their actual songs.
I know what you mean. Chaotic songs.
I dig your videos and find them most informative. However, I'm trying to pinpoint your accent. I know that it's British. I first thought that there was a bit of an Irish brogue but I've since wavered on that opinion. Please forgive me, I'm a Texan and to me all English speaking non~Texans have an accent, which I find awesome as a lover of the English language. I do know a wee bit of Gaelic and Spanish.
Close. I'm Welsh.
CIRCLE OF TONE.
Right on.
I'm French and I was asking to myself the same question. I usually understand very well most of English speakers but I struggle a bit here. But it's worth the try.
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Can’t you use a power soak box to absorb 75-95 of the head 100 watts this way not blow out your 2x12 green backs yet get that cranked head sound!?
Yeah I also have a master volume mod on the plexi but it's never the same.
Pro tip: Power soaks work best when they include both resistors AND a coil for the reactance.
Maybe flesh out the real greenbacks with very affordable wgs clones. Then just mic the vintage ones. But the wgs sound good, too.
Great repro man sounded epic.... Such a rich topic of Fuzz I say bc it's widely misused. This idea of diming it into a driving amp is absurd you're simply toying around with borderline white noise. All of the richness in tone comes from the harmonics which are found in well managed gain staging. Are we guitar players or saturation sampling DJ's?
Are you sure it was a flying V on the first album?
A Gibson Flying V was used for the songs recorded on the first day (I Wanna Be Your Dog, No Fun, 1969, Ann/The Dance of Romance, We Will Fall), and a Stratocaster for the second recording session (Not Right, Real Cool Time, Little Doll). I don’t know what was used for “Asthma Attack” but it’s most likely the Flying V too.
You should male ypur pickup available in white.
Yep. I need two colors that nobody will buy. Hehe.
Swollen pickle
Every original or fitting sound should be cherished. I can appreciate posh sounding overdrive in Who Wants To Live Forever ( ruclips.net/video/_Jtpf8N5IDE/видео.html ) as well as the simple brutality of Black Metal Sabbath by Cephalic Carnage ( ruclips.net/video/UHR9CMAOVi8/видео.html )... Every time someone comes with something new it should be explored further. Except for auto-tune. Stop that shit ;))
Hehe. Frets are auto tune for guitar.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I imagined myself playing without frets and I now am covered in cold sweat and probably some kind of fecal matter. Thanks a lot, man :))
@@smradztoiek microtonal does the same thing to me.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Got you overhipstered there. I am a subscriber of Tolgahan Çoğulu :)