Not sure if you are still interested in trying this, but here is a more optimized setup. Let Noah and Taion be healer buffer, Eunie as healer dps, Lanz as attacker, Mio as Seraph. Noah: 40% atk/115% launch/machine dmg/250% dmg Mio: 350% blaze/300% bleed/250% dmg Eunie: 40% atk/-32% ether def/250% dmg Taion: 40% atk/115% launch/machine dmg/250% dmg Lanz: 40% atk/-35% ether def/250% dmg Sena: 40% atk/30% atk/250% dmg Setup before chain: Get Lanz's ouro lv3. Use origin blade then use both Taion's ouro and Lanz's ouro. Taion's ouro is to keep origin blade debuff and reduce debuff resist. Charge Lanz's talent art while also use stance and summon element on Mio. Then Mio Glittering Melody -> Lanz Talent art to break/topple/launch -> Noah power charge non fusion -> double buff -> Mio DoT -> chain. The DoT should be applied easily because of Taion's ouro. Chain: R1 Eunie order : Lanz -> Taion power charge -> Valdi, Eunie finisher deals 12M+ dmg instead of 4M R2 Valdi order : Lanz -> Taion power charge -> Valdi R3 Sena order : Taion double buff -> Eunie -> Lanz, Sena unblockable effect is very useful R4 Taion order : Mio -> Noah power charge -> Taion double buff -> Eunie -> Sena -> Lanz, Taion finisher deals 34M dmg instead of ~26M dmg due to power charge R5 : Mio -> Taion double buff -> Noah power charge -> Eunie -> Sena -> Lanz The dmg can be 1.5 billion+.
Hello. This is interesting. Improving Eunie and Taion's finishers was an issue for me, but your idea seems to solve it. At the moment, I have two concerns. ① This configuration does not have a member who plays the role of defender, but is this pre-chain setup actually possible?Already tested? ②Can you finish R3 with AMAZING? I think Lantz's TP is pretty close. I think it depends on whether or not there are two debuffs at this point, and whether or not the attack was blocked by the enemy, but how was it when you actually tried it? I'm sorry. I should just test it myself, but unfortunately I'm not in a position to test it at the moment, so if you have an answer, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.
@@cross_nn5036 Noah Seraph should be better than Mio, since Noah deals more DoT dmg and Mio would deal dmg capped Wild Wave anyway. However, Noah soulhacker buffer gives you more consistency since you can choose R3 Noah if Sena is not there. But you lose special pair bonus since you would not choose Mio R3. 1. You do not need defender. Assuming you have already stack 250% additive damage with those low lv mobs surrounding, Noah and Lanz both have LV3 ouro. Enter the fight and draw aggro with Noah. Then use Noah ouro immediately. Kill 3 machines with Noah and deals some damage to Dorrick to let him use stance. Wait for overheat to use origin blade, you can slow down your overheat by switching between Noah/Mio ouro. Then use Taion and Lanz ouro after origin blade hit. With ouro they would not die even without defender, and origin blade decrease Dorrick's dmg so you are safe. It is tested. The thing you need to practice is the setup after origin blade since Taion ouro would expired, you need to do everything asap. 2. R3 amazing is 100% if you can pick R3 Noah/Sena. Since Lanz is Keves side, Eunie and Valdi order gives him more TP compare to Taion. I think debuff does not affect TP gain by Lanz but in case if it does, you have origin blade debuff for first 2 rounds. Also highly likely you have blaze/bleed due to Taion ouro reducing debuff resist.
@@yintse9976 Thank you for your detailed explanation. I just finished testing all the steps and putting them into practice, and like you, I was able to get this strategy on track. I am impressed by how well all the elements fit together. An idea like this would never have come from me.Thank you again.
@@cross_nn5036 ruclips.net/video/e59mUOQTmEk/видео.html Here is an example for this strat with mod to increase my success rate. You can change Noah's Noble Taunt to Tyrant Cross for random debuff. Also use Mio's ether defense down art and Taion's random debuff art.
Is origin blade effective? I've tested in the past both with and without the origin blade under the same conditions against Dorrick and compared the damage, and I didn't see any difference between the two.
@@cross_nn5036 Since Dorrick already takes x3 damage so origin blade only make it to be x3.5, but still better than nothing. And you are not using summon element or any stance on Noah/Mio so going to Noah's ouro does not make those effects disappear. So it is just some nice cheap damage to have without any loss.
@@yintse9976 The first thing I would like to confirm is whether it really changes from x3 to x3.5. Below is the link of the verification video. According to this, it seems that there is no effect, but am I overlooking something? If you notice anything, it would be greatly appreciated if you could let me know.
@@cross_nn5036 Interesting. I only test Blazing Karlos which has 25% damage increase after enrage and origin blade works as intended. Both Blazing Karlos and Dorrick Attack Shift effects are from the same enhance effect but different values and no param indicates there is a cap, but I assume maybe there is a random x3 damage cap judging from this test video. The damage is lower in second clip due to Noah in L7 so no essence of ether. Edit: So actually it should work but the damage drop is due to Noah in L7 state, so Essence of Ether and Beaming Edge does not work.
素材集めしてるときドルークは仲間になると思ってたんだよなぁ
Valdi is very good against machines :)
Indeed.I wish he had chain gauge recovery.
面白い ぐぐ
(体の自由が)きかないも
そういう意味だったのかも！？「痛くないも」とか、やせ我慢もここまで来ると立派だと思ってたも～。
まあライジングでぐるんぐるんだし…
Not sure if you are still interested in trying this, but here is a more optimized setup.
Let Noah and Taion be healer buffer, Eunie as healer dps, Lanz as attacker, Mio as Seraph.
Noah: 40% atk/115% launch/machine dmg/250% dmg
Mio: 350% blaze/300% bleed/250% dmg
Eunie: 40% atk/-32% ether def/250% dmg
Taion: 40% atk/115% launch/machine dmg/250% dmg
Lanz: 40% atk/-35% ether def/250% dmg
Sena: 40% atk/30% atk/250% dmg
Setup before chain:
Get Lanz's ouro lv3. Use origin blade then use both Taion's ouro and Lanz's ouro. Taion's ouro is to keep origin blade debuff and reduce debuff resist. Charge Lanz's talent art while also use stance and summon element on Mio. Then Mio Glittering Melody -> Lanz Talent art to break/topple/launch -> Noah power charge non fusion -> double buff -> Mio DoT -> chain. The DoT should be applied easily because of Taion's ouro.
Chain:
R1 Eunie order : Lanz -> Taion power charge -> Valdi, Eunie finisher deals 12M+ dmg instead of 4M
R2 Valdi order : Lanz -> Taion power charge -> Valdi
R3 Sena order : Taion double buff -> Eunie -> Lanz, Sena unblockable effect is very useful
R4 Taion order : Mio -> Noah power charge -> Taion double buff -> Eunie -> Sena -> Lanz, Taion finisher deals 34M dmg instead of ~26M dmg due to power charge
R5 : Mio -> Taion double buff -> Noah power charge -> Eunie -> Sena -> Lanz
The dmg can be 1.5 billion+.
Hello. This is interesting. Improving Eunie and Taion's finishers was an issue for me, but your idea seems to solve it.
At the moment, I have two concerns.
① This configuration does not have a member who plays the role of defender, but is this pre-chain setup actually possible?Already tested?
②Can you finish R3 with AMAZING? I think Lantz's TP is pretty close. I think it depends on whether or not there are two debuffs at this point, and whether or not the attack was blocked by the enemy, but how was it when you actually tried it?
I'm sorry. I should just test it myself, but unfortunately I'm not in a position to test it at the moment, so if you have an answer, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.
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Noah Seraph should be better than Mio, since Noah deals more DoT dmg and Mio would deal dmg capped Wild Wave anyway. However, Noah soulhacker buffer gives you more consistency since you can choose R3 Noah if Sena is not there. But you lose special pair bonus since you would not choose Mio R3.
1. You do not need defender. Assuming you have already stack 250% additive damage with those low lv mobs surrounding, Noah and Lanz both have LV3 ouro. Enter the fight and draw aggro with Noah. Then use Noah ouro immediately. Kill 3 machines with Noah and deals some damage to Dorrick to let him use stance. Wait for overheat to use origin blade, you can slow down your overheat by switching between Noah/Mio ouro. Then use Taion and Lanz ouro after origin blade hit. With ouro they would not die even without defender, and origin blade decrease Dorrick's dmg so you are safe. It is tested. The thing you need to practice is the setup after origin blade since Taion ouro would expired, you need to do everything asap.
2. R3 amazing is 100% if you can pick R3 Noah/Sena. Since Lanz is Keves side, Eunie and Valdi order gives him more TP compare to Taion. I think debuff does not affect TP gain by Lanz but in case if it does, you have origin blade debuff for first 2 rounds. Also highly likely you have blaze/bleed due to Taion ouro reducing debuff resist.
@@cross_nn5036 Here is an example for pre-chain setup. ruclips.net/video/06RSAgRdzTQ/видео.html
@@yintse9976 Thank you for your detailed explanation. I just finished testing all the steps and putting them into practice, and like you, I was able to get this strategy on track.
I am impressed by how well all the elements fit together. An idea like this would never have come from me.Thank you again.
@@cross_nn5036 ruclips.net/video/e59mUOQTmEk/видео.html
Here is an example for this strat with mod to increase my success rate. You can change Noah's Noble Taunt to Tyrant Cross for random debuff. Also use Mio's ether defense down art and Taion's random debuff art.
play in normal mode instead of easy mode so you can use origin blade, launch and fusion blaze + bleed before chain.
Is origin blade effective? I've tested in the past both with and without the origin blade under the same conditions against Dorrick and compared the damage, and I didn't see any difference between the two.
@@cross_nn5036 Since Dorrick already takes x3 damage so origin blade only make it to be x3.5, but still better than nothing. And you are not using summon element or any stance on Noah/Mio so going to Noah's ouro does not make those effects disappear. So it is just some nice cheap damage to have without any loss.
@@yintse9976 The first thing I would like to confirm is whether it really changes from x3 to x3.5. Below is the link of the verification video. According to this, it seems that there is no effect, but am I overlooking something? If you notice anything, it would be greatly appreciated if you could let me know.
twitter.com/UnKNOWn_Cross/status/1691837769646252437
@@cross_nn5036 Interesting. I only test Blazing Karlos which has 25% damage increase after enrage and origin blade works as intended. Both Blazing Karlos and Dorrick Attack Shift effects are from the same enhance effect but different values and no param indicates there is a cap, but I assume maybe there is a random x3 damage cap judging from this test video. The damage is lower in second clip due to Noah in L7 so no essence of ether.
Edit: So actually it should work but the damage drop is due to Noah in L7 state, so Essence of Ether and Beaming Edge does not work.
ソウルハッカー組のセットしてるスキルってなんですか？
攻撃特化のノア・タイオン・セナは【デンジャー爪、冥界レイジ、余剰パワー】
攻撃兼サポート役のランツは【デンジャー爪、剛力サポート、余剰パワー】
防御・サポート特化のミオは【ディフェンダー皆伝、剛力サポート、鎧オーバーラップ】です
@@cross_nn5036 ありがとうございます。
すごいも！
ありがとうも！
ひでぇ(￣▽￣;)
なにもここまでしなくて…(￣▽￣;)