Arabization to Turkification |history negationism to identity crisis ft Salman Rashid 125 TG Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Join us in this engaging video as we explore a range of compelling topics that connect history, culture, and personal identity. We begin with an introduction at 2:38, setting the stage for our discussion. At 4:18, we delve into the profound lessons that travel offers, broadening our perspectives. Moving on to 7:58, we explore the complex question of identity and how it is shaped by various factors.
At 10:22, we examine the impact of disrupted history on societies and individuals, followed by a deep dive into the rich history and cultural heritage of Punjab at 12:53. We highlight the significant contributions of reformers and poets in shaping cultural and social movements at 24:15, and conclude with an exploration of the lasting impact of the Persian Empire on different regions and cultures at 26:12.
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#History #Culture #Identity #Travel #Punjab #PersianEmpire
2:38 Introduction
4:18 What does travel teach?
7:58 Identity question
10:22 Disrupted history
12:53 Punjab and Punjabi history
24:15 Reformers and poetry
26:12 Persian Empire and influences
I still remember Manto laughing at Punjabi Muslims in Lahore trying to speak Urdu.
Yap
Urdu literature/music/films are created by Punjabis
Poor beharis can’t even pronounce Zindgi(jindgi)
Behari deny their languages like boujpuri/awadhi etc
They speak ugly version of Urdu and calls it hindi
You met manto ??
Manto punjabi ke upr hsta tha sir?
@@AmrinderSingh-is4gs Yes and he was Kashmiri
A conversation with a wise man is worth a year's reading of books.
Wish more Pakistanis thought like this gentleman!
And when Indians will start thinking.
and you think bit open minded as well... its nice Muslim speaking Hindu view and Hindu supporting Muslim view ... but very hard for supporting opposite views with open heart and mind ...
Old is gold @@MulaDaddy
He is the Arun Shourie of Pakistan… scholar
He even looks like Shourie 😂😂
@@ssheikh3598and Arun Shourie’s family is originally from Amritsar, as is Salman sir’s.
Loving it ...
Lots of his facts are wrong.
He studied history of Punjab more from angle of Muslims and Islam and not based on geography of that area.
Chandragupta Maurya was a follower of Vedic religion. Before the influence of Abrahamic religions India had very fluid inter religion changes among people. It was merely a way of thinking and practicing how to conduct your life.
Though cast wise categorization was present which was also fluid that time.
Different scientific studies are done on caste stratification(i.e. Intermixing of caste stopped), it was found that somewhere around 600 AD caste intermixing stopped.
Chandragupta Maurya was made King by Chanakya (writer of Arthshastra) . Chanakya was Brahmin or let's say Pandit in todays terms.
Chanakya was the Teacher of Chandragupta Maurya and he was greatly respected.
Taxila had one of the oldest universities of the world. The destruction of the university occurred during the invasion and conquest of the region by various forces, notably the Huns and the Persian King, Shapur II.
I think something major happened around 6-7 AD. You are correct sir about ossification of castes after that
Chandragupta Maurya was and never followed Vedic religion. As Brahmavad became dominant, India's downfall started and has not stopped. Chanakya was not Brahmin. He was respected because he was a dictator.
@@vinsin328chanakya was not a Brahmin then why was he keeping a skhikha and why did he call himself a Brahmin?
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351 tumney dekha chanakya ko ????
Pakistan should have adopted arabic language instead of urdu to completely dissociate with India. Urdu is basically a language with hindi grammar and persian, arabic, turkish words. There are many words which are sanskrit or sanskrit derived words. You may hate sanskrit, but can't stop uttering sanskrit. Ham(I, we) is a hindi word derived from sanskrit Aham. Tum ( you) is derived from sanskrit twom.
Urdu grammar is similar to Hindi, but it also uses Farsi and Arabic grammar. As I said earlier, Urdu is not foreign to Punjab. It was the language of the Muslim educated class for hundreds of years.
@@QabilAGhorwhy you guys so bluntly fool? I really want to know why?Panjabi and Urdu kaise re ? Bhai aisa dimag kaise hai re tumhare?
@@AjayKumar-uk4sp Sorry, I don't understand what you are writing or what you mean.
@QabilAGhor Urdu is an Indian language. Moreover, language is not bound to any religion. Arabic, Farsi, Turkish languages existed before Islam, or before any religion was practiced. I do not find any reason why we should say that urdu, farsi, arabic, turkish are Islamic or Muslim language. Languages are spoken within a geographical area, that's all.
@@hsd4526 I agree that no language should be associated with any religion. Pakistani Hindus read and write in Urdu, and Urdu belongs to them as much it belongs to us. Similarly, Indian Muslims should speak Hindi or whatever language they desire. My point was that Urdu, as its name suggests, came about as a result of Farsi and Turkic speaking Muslims interacting with locals who spoke Khari Boli in Delhi. Because of the influence of Islam, and the fact that Muslim children were taught Farsi and Arabic in the old days, it became more prevalent among Muslims. Hindus focused on Sanskrit instead, and Sanskrit continues to influence Hindi.
Hats off to you Salman sir. It's a great honour and pleasure to hear you sir. You are true son of our subcontinent and true apostle of knowledge. Had Pakistan learnt from people like you. I am your fan. To listen you is a great blessing. 🌹🌹❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🌺
Chandragupta was not Jain or Buddhist.But in the end of his life he relinquished his throne and became Jain shraman and went to forest (vanprasth ashram ) as the other kings used to do at that time
So he was Jain.
@@vinsin328he was a hindu, who upon reaching a certain level in his life changed his way of worship to jain, to achieve moksha
He didnt go to the forest - he followed acharya bhadrabahu to southern India after taking up Jain monkhood and then took samadhi at Shravanbelagola, Karnataka. Both the acharya's and Chandragupta's footprints are still worshipped by us jains there.
"I do not have any unanswered questions" As per Hindu philosophy Salman sir has achieved MOKSHA in life . Great ,very few reached there
@@indianavijay being an ambedkarite atheist I do not believe in religions . You talked about moksha without understanding basic teachings of Hinduism . No one can enter Hinduism without assigned a varna . Whenever any Hindu embraces Hinduism he or she is assigned a varna . Thereafter assigned varna becomes hereditary in the family of newly convert . Have you read varna based verses in Geeta and other books ????.
@@logicalindian9227Have u ever read gita to understand it or just know to refer to copy paste quotes ?
It clearly advocates for Varna based on abilities, not hereditary.
The modern equivalence of those Varnas are our professions in today's day n age.Whosoever has certain abilities and works hard to pursue it, is referred with the respective titled position as prescribed in Gita (truly).
Highly illogical Indian should be your username tbh 😂@@logicalindian9227
@@logicalindian9227😂 Ever been to Thailand Srilanka or met withTibetan Buddhists. The real Buddhism. ambedkar version of Buddhism is Churxh version of Buddhism full of Hate for Hinduism 😂
Caste never goes away in Subcontinent u can switch to any religion. Every religion is Failed religion in matter of castes 😂
@@kishandubey7882 if varna was merit based changeable, convertable institution during vedic age then please highlight the answer to following queries . 1st . Why shambhuka, eklayya etc and many more like them could not receive merit based varna . ( please i am not talking about right or wrong of any event . My discussion purely on allotment of varna ) . 2nd . From vedic age to current times . How many religious , cultural, spiritual, political movements started to make varna convertible, changeable institution. Please quote examples . At least quote one single example . 3rd . Current times scene . Any organization whether rss, Arya samaj, iskon or vhp etc willing to make varna convertible, changeable institution by promoting some of their SC st cadres to the higher caste of brahmin or kshatriya. Yes or no . 4th . Whenever any non Hindu embraces Hinduism first thing done is to assign a varna to the newly converted Hindu. Thereafter assigned caste / varna becomes hereditary in the family of newly converted Hindu. Expecting a point wise reply .
Chandragupta Maurya was not Buddhist but a follower of Jainism.
They teach falsified history there. Same in d west. It’s mostly all lies and assumptions in order to put themselves at d top of d pyramid
Konsa nasha fukte ho
No
@@maxtryme1508yes maurya Dynasty was JAINISM follower especially chandragupta maurya who took Jain diksha under sage bhadrabahu in Karnataka
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhadrab%C4%81hu
Also chandragupta maurya had married daughter of dhananad,last Nanda Dynasty rulers who too were Jainism followers and so JAINISM whose ancient name is shraman dharma or shramanism was not alien to them
History and ancestry of Jainism akka real saman dhamma or shraman dharma,way ancient dharma than Buddhism is way ancient and detailed than you can even imagine
@@maxtryme1508not only that,Ashoks own grandson samrat samprati also known as Jain Ashok was staunch Jainism follower and expanded Mauryan empire even beyond Afghanistan till khotan Uzbekistan and lower areas of china and down south
He ruled from alternate capital of maurya Dynasty from ujjain and built several Jain temple and stupas all across his kingdom which were later appropriated by other sects and even Buddhists took over them while they clearly belong to Jainism
Inscription in Brahmi and kharosti lipi were made as kharosti script was sister script of Brahmi written from right to left just like Urdu
Brahmi lipi is base for writing Indian sub continent region languages including Sanskrit and various prakrits
Gujurati language derived from sauraseni prakrit and lone words from Sanskrit and uses devnagari script for writing
Bengali language derived from magadhi prakrit and lone Sanskrit words and later influence by Persian and arab as these people traded with people from central Asia even before abhrahamic religions ever came into existence
You forget that lothal and dholavira sites of indus valley civilisation besides mighty river Saraswati and Sindhu Sagar or Arabian sea and indus river or Sindhu river were well developed port from ancient times
Indian peninsular region has sea on all the three sides and gujurat sindh , down south region and even Orissa or Kalinga desh and bengal region had ports and trade relations with faraway lands 😊
Our kings too conquered and ruled far away lands and had vassal kings under them or had marital relationship with kings from other kingdoms
Obviously culture exchange and people exchange happens 😉
It's natural evolution and human being is social animal and cannot live in isolation
Even indus valley civilisation people had trade relations with ancient Mesopotamia and Sumerian civilization
So obviously it was connected world and history of human civilization is way ancient than you can even imagine 😊
Entire universe cosmology explained in Jainism akka real shramanism
Jambudweepey bharatkshetrey bharatkhundey or Arya khundey bharatvarshey........
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_cosmology
The primary root cause of identity crises in Pakistan is based on one main historical reason. The majority of Pakistanis are Punjabis and Sindhis. There has never been any powerful historical figure, either Sindhi Muslim or Punjabi Muslim. No empire was founded by any Sindhi or Punjabi Muslim. The present Pakistani Punjab region was ruled over centuries by Afghans, Turks, Mughals, Sikhs, and British. As a matter of fact, it was only after 1947 that Punjabi Muslims became masters of that region. It is funny to observe that even today, the two main leaders are either a Pathan (Imran Khan ) or a Kashmiri ( Sharif family).
The fact that they don't have native heroes means they are always looking for heroes from foreign Islamic empires. Just look at the list of people who are celebrated by Pakistanis. Muhammed Bin Kasim, Mahmud Ghaznavi, Muhammed Ghori, Timur, Babur, Aurungzeb, Ahmed Shah Abdali etc. None of these are native Sindhi or Punjabi Muslims.
Even though Punjabi Muslims consider themselves to be a martial race, this is not backed up by history. They were never able to resist foreign invaders and were ruled even by a small minority of Sikhs. Furthermore, they never fought against the British except for Rai Ahmed Khan Kharal, who played a minor role in resistance against the British.
By the way, their latest invented hero is a fictional character from Turkey called Ertugrul.
Pakistani Muslims are part of the larger Muslim World. There has never been a great Muslim conqueror from Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Lebanon, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. but yet they all take pride in being part of the Islamic world. You see things in ethnocentric terms; we are concerned with the triumph of truth, regardless of anything else. So you and I live in different worlds.
U can’t lie to everyone forever. It can’t last 😂
@@QabilAGhor We all know the so-called Ummat. Everyone knows how Pakistanis are treated by the Arabs. Stop comparing Pakistan to Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Lebanon, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. These countries do not have identity crises like Pakistan.
We all know how concerned with the triumph of truth Pakistanis are. Your recent elections are the perfect example of the triumph of truth?
You said I see things in ethnocentric terms, and then how come there are deep-rooted tensions between Sindhis, Muhajirs, Pathans, Boloch, and Punjabis? The ethnic tensions with Bengalis led to the creation of Bangladesh. Aren't these the perfect examples of ethnic strife?
We surely do live in different worlds. I live in the factual world, and you live in a fictional world.
@@RojaJaneman@RojaJaneman - Janeman, if you know the truth, bring the facts here.🤣
@@Karmazov My own wife is Arab, and she and her family have treated me well. Need I say more?
Faisal bhai,
If you want to connect with the land, your land, don't jump over from IVC to Turkish invasions. There is atleast a 2,500 year gap you can not ignore, smack in the heart of Punjab. Also, if IVC had any Vedic connection, we may need to put you in a padded room!
If IVC declined around 1900 BCE, RigVeda captures the continuity of "the land", "your land."
Read about RigVeda. It will tell you who you are. Then jump to Mahavakyas, just a ten minute tutorial on who you really are.
Then you will realize the devastation that began with Ghouri and Ghazni.
The host is itself Persian in origin.
Ghori aur Ghazbavi ke shukr guzaar hai hum log , jinhone yahan ki nasl ko bandarr se isaan banane ki jaddojehad ki.
@@aadilansari5997 Ha wohi Ghori who Invaded India 17 times because he failed 16 times. Looted already rich land of India.
Ghaznavi- Mahmud of Ghazni's invasion of India in the 11th century was a pivotal moment in the subcontinent's history. Mahmud, a powerful Turkic ruler, launched a series of raids into India between 1000 and 1027. His primary goal was to plunder the rich temples of northern India, most notably the famous Somnath Temple.
yes bro true. Land's continuity is not respected therefore Identity crisis.
@@razkaraj2150 Kuffar se loot khasot jayaz hai. Sou pachaas mandarr lut gaye to kya hua , doulaat to aani jaani cheez hai. Lekan badle main idhaar ki kaali badsoorat nasl ko fi rang, aur thodi bahot khubsoorati bhi do di Ghori Ghaznavi ke mujahidon ne, iss baat se kyun inkaar karte ho?
Punjab punjabi punjabiyat Zindabad
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 udta Punjab... hallelujah...
Just get lost
Salman speaks from the heart and experience.
I think he is a Punjabi chauvinist, with some inferiority complex.
You will be surprised to hear that my 24-25 year old father (bachelor then) from Tamil nadu (could barely speak Hindi) was posted in Lahore in Govt service in 1945-47. They had South Indian "Messes" in their neighbourhood in Lahore where they ate dosas, idlis and suchlike everyday with occasional Carnatic music festivals.
Pakistan was so great in Sufism, till this date , it is know for it's vibrant sufi culture, but unfortunately Zia ul Haq's Arabization brought extremist Islamic interpretations to the region
Chandragupta did pay a lot of heed to what Brahmins said.
He, infact, rose to power with the help of a Brahmin.
In his last days, he died as a Jain monk.
Why do Pakistani scholars lack depth.
The quality of food, you eat matters. Tamasic foods, preferred by Muslims tend to reduce the mental power of abstraction.
This is the problem of converts 😂😂😂😂somehow they wanted to show that they did good by converting
پنجابی زبان پنجاب دی شان اور شناخت ہَے
پنجابی امیر ترین زبان ہَے
پنجابیو مذھب توں اُپر اُٹھ کے اَپنی تہذیب اور مادری زبان نوں بچاؤ
Comment written in Urdu
History may written by the victors, but facts don't care about feelings.
انسان کو اس بھائی صاحب کی طرح متعصب نہیں ہونا چاہیے۔ فارسی عربی میں سمجھاتا ہوں ہمارے کلچر میں کیا ہے۔ چندرگپت کون تھا اس بحث میں پڑے بغیر یہ یونانی و دیگر حوالوں سے واضح ہے کہ سکندر دارا فیملی کی ہی ریاست کے حصے پنجاب میں داخل ہوا تھا۔ رائج زبانیں تھیں ارامیک اور فارسی کم از کم ڈھائی سو سال سے۔ اشوکا کے ایڈکٹس اس علاقے میں ارامیک یا ارامیک خط کی گندھاری میں پائے گئے۔ اس کے بعد کوئی چار سو سال یہاں یونانی رائج رہی۔ سکندر کے بعد بھول جاتے ہیں کہ یہاں خصوصاََ پنجاب میں صدیوں کا یونانی راج رہا ہے۔ پھر پارتھین اور ساکا راج ہیں زبانیں یونانی اور ایرانی تہذیب کی ساکا زبان۔ یاد رہے یہ لوگ کوئی خاندان نہیں ہوتے تھے جو آ کے راج کر جاتے تھے۔ یہ قبائل کے قبائل اور قبائلی الائنس ہوتے تھے۔ پھر ساکاؤں ہی میں سے مانے جانیوالے کشان جن کی ریسنٹ دریافت تختیاں واضح کرتی ہیں کہ یہ لوگ نویں صدی میں بھی عرب امارت کے نیچے کئی علاقوں میں مقامی حکمران تھے۔ کشانوں کے کانشکا اعظم نے تیسری صدی میں رائج یونانی کی جگہ بلخی کہی جانیوالی زبان کو یونانی خط میں رائج کیا جو نویں صدی کی دریافت تختیوں میں بھی موجود ہے۔ کانشکا نے اس زبان کو "آریو" مطلب آریان کہا ایسے ہی جیسے دارا نے اپنی فارسی کو آریان کہا تھا۔کشانوں کے ساتھ ساتھ یہاں ہنز الائنس کے ابادلو نزاک اور مشہور تورمان اور مہرگل کے الخانو گزرے۔ ان کی ریاستی زبانیں بھی آریو فارسی رہیں۔ پھر ساسانیوں کیا یہاں طویل اثر بلکل عیاں ہے۔ یہ سب لوگ سوائے ہونانی النسلوں کے "ایرانی تہذیب" کے کہلائے جاتے ہیں۔ کوئی "برہمن تہذیب" سے نہیں۔ ان سب کی کرنسیاں بتاتی ہیں کہ یہ سب ایرانی تہذیب کے مذاہب کو ہی فوقیت دیتے تھے۔ یہ لوگ عموماً پنجاب و پاکستان کے شہروں کو صدر مقام بنائے راج کرتے رہے ہیں۔ بدھ مذہب بھی ان کے ہاں موجود تھا اور شاید اسی تناظر میں۔ اس موضوع پر اچھی خاصی تحریریں موجود ہیں۔ سنسسکرت بھی بدھ ازم کی بدولت یہاں رہی۔ سنسکرت سے شاید زیادہ ارامیک سکرپٹ میں جاری رہی گندھاری میں بدھ ازم کا زیادہ مواد موجود ہو گا۔ تورمان اور مہرگل وہ ہُن راجے تھے جنہوں نے انڈین گپتا ایمپائر پر چڑھائی کے دوران اپنے ایرانی oesho کلث کو شیوا ازم میں بدلا۔ برہمن تاریخ میں یہ سب یونانی کشان فارسی پارتھی ساکا ہنز ملیچھا لکھے گئے۔ شیوا ازم کا روپ دھارا تو شودر کہلائے۔ یہاں تک کے کشانوں کے جو راجا کہیں بدھ ازم کے پیروکار تھے تو بدھ تاریخ میں بھی انہیں شودر کہا گیا کیونکہ یہ لوگ برہمنی تہذیب کے باہر کے لوگ تھے۔ بدھ ازم میں اس آفاقی کاسٹ تفریق کا کوئی زیادہ معاشرتی اثر تو نہیں لیکن وہ یہ تفریق کرتے ضرور ہوتے تھے۔ یہ تو تھی قبل از اسلام۔ بعد از اسلام تو فارسی ہزار سال تک کی تاریخ رکھتی ہے۔ عربی نے سرکار فارسی اور ایرانی زبانوں کو نیا روپ دیا اور پھر پنجاب میں تو براہ راست عرب اثر یہاں کے کلچر اور زبان پہ ہے۔ آپ صرف یہ دیکھ لیجیے کہ بابا جی کو عرب اثر پر وٹ تو بہت ہے لیکن پنجابی شاعری و ادب کے حوالے سے جو پنجاب کی شناخت نام منہ پہ آئے وہ عرب نژادوں کے ہی آئے ایک کو چھوڑ کر۔ بلہے شاہ سلطان باہو بابا فرید وغیرہ۔ یہ سب ایرانی زمینوں سے ہوتے پنجاب ہوئے لوگوں میں سے ہیں۔ بلکہ بابا فرید کو تو ہماری آپ کی پنجابی کا پہلا شاعر کہا جاتا ہے، بابا جی کا فارسی کلچرڈ ہوا خاندان کسی زمانے کا کابل کا حکمران رہا ہے۔ ۔ لاہور داتا کی نگری ہے اور "داتا" غزنی بورن عرب نژاد ہے۔ یہ لوگ پنجاب اور پنجابی کی پہچان ہیں۔ اپنے ذہنوں کو وسعت دیں اور اپنی تاریخ کو درست انداز میں دیکھا کریں۔ اس میں بہت رچنیس ہے۔ ہماری تاریخ اس ترویج کے علاوہ بیان ہوئی عین غلط ہی ہو گی۔
bohot khube janab.
CHANDRAGUPTA MIGRATED TO SOUTH INDIA AND DIED AT SRAVANBELGOLA AS A JAINA.
I feel you are speaking my mind. It’s not just about religion, we are people of the land and culture.
Thank you sir 🙏🙏
WHAT CULTURE ? SATI , CASTE SYSTEM ,ANIMAL WORSHIP , OPPRESSION , NIYOG
Pakistani u tubers marking money from india,although salman sir respected one (in india)
Same is true for many Indian utubers
@@maheerraja3012😂😂😂😂😂😂 beggars
Caste is a British word. Hindu word is varna, professions. Not as rigid as the British theory made it to be.
You can call it caste or varna but the fact remains that lower caste or lower varna people were always discriminated against by the upper caste or upper varna people. This discrimination is still ongoing in day to day life in today's India.
To understand what the social conditions were in the pre-Islamic era, all you have to do is the read Munusmriti.
@@QabilAGhor Forget about the conditions in pre-islamic era. What are the social conditions amongst Muslims in Pakistan? Will a Syed or Rajput Muslim let his sister or daughter marry a son of marasi or Musali Muslim?
@@QabilAGhor😂😂😂😂 tell me have you read manusmriti??
Or you are just a complete God book Quran follower 😂
@@Karmazovyou also tell me about the conditions of so-called lower caste people in india and how it was always like this???
I don't like complete God book Quran followers so don't try to sound like them in answer because they are stupid with mouth😂
The fact is that we have distorted both the concept and the image of nationhood, state, culture, language, region, and religion. It was an elite-based movement for separation and was hammered in our minds from the top. Mullah who was brought in at a later stage was just a pan in the hands of the mighty. He was divisive, mean, and vicious. His knowledge and understanding of the modern state was rudimentary and far from reality. The worst part is that he could never understand the concept of the modern state and always identified himself with the larger ummah by claiming and professing that he was Muslim first and then Pakistani. That crosscut of identities further complicated the process. We try to connect everything either with the Arab world or with Afghans and celebrate the vagabonds as heroes. The facts are otherwise, we see no commonalities with these groups of people. Both came from outside for loot and plunder be it the Arabs or the plunderers from northwest. Ghaznavi was a murderer, a rapist, and a thief as were others coming from the northwest before or after him. The Arabs invaded Sindh during the Umayyad period who were nothing but land-grabbers, and the war lordship was a norm for them.
Whether they were vagabonds or watevr. It's bcz of those invasions, we Alhamdulillah r Muslims.
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So proud to be Punjabi ❤️
Udta punjab 😂😂😂😂😂
Times glo sir I appreciate your unbiased thoughts and your Punjabi language love from u.s.a.
2 nation theory is ingrained in Islam which may have been used by British. Now the British are suffering it in their own country.
Punjabi Muslims are basically converted Punjabi Hindus.
Arab / persian refugees or local converts who later became "Syeds" and believe themselves to be superior not just among Muslims but above every South Asian DNA. They call themselves "Sadaat" I.e. the anointed & chosen ones. Whereas no one among us chose or anointed them. But they pompously strutt around like masters of this land and it's people. No where in any Muslim country including Iran are Syeds given any importance as much in afganistan, Pakistan, India & Bangladesh. It's time we put an end to this nonsense.
If folks here do their DNA / Genome mapping, they will realise that their entire ancestry is from India/ Hindustan. Arabs / Turks were very small in numbers and their genetic influence on our ancestry is negligible
urdu sirf 400 saal purani language hai jabki punjabi 1600 saal purani language hai aur urdu ko mughal sultanat k Kehne pe nizamuddin ne kuran Islam ko samjhne k liye banaya tha basically urdu is religious language please google it bro isliye Pakistan me sabse pehle urdu language को punjabi sindhi pastoon Kashmiri musalmano pe thopa gaya taki unka original language culture chodke urdu ko pure koum pe oppose kiya jisse pure pakistan koum ko zehniyat k taur pe identity crisis ho giya isliye ye khud ko arbi turki farsi samajhne vali zehniyat pai jati hai kyoki urdu language arbi turki aur farsi ethnicity ko superior batata hai isliye pakistanio me ye identity crisis hai lekin ye identity crisis Afghani aur bangladeshi muslmanan me nahi paya jata kyoki unhone urdu ko discard dismantle kar diya tha ye sirf pakistanio ki zehniyat me dikhegi 😅
@@Adam-xh3pq . Adopt Dr ambedkar culture . We in India are battling manuvadi mindset . People across the border should also realize that all talks about ancestry, civilization etc breeds racism and castism. We should seek truth and abandon culture , civilization.
1600 sal purani ?? Bhai punjabi sursaini se nikli h jo lagbhag 1200-1300 tak chalti thi us se punjabi mature hote hote 1400-1450 aa gai thi.
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Chandragupta Maurya converted to Jainism
It was a sect and not religion...the idea of seperate religion came after independence
Jains and Buddhists. Hinduism is not a religion it’s an exonym
Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism aur hinduism sabhi Om Shanti Shani Shanti hai. Kalinga war ke baad Samrat Ashok Buddhism apnaya aur pure viswa mein Buddhism ko failaya. Central Asia se Malesia aur China se Srilanka.
@@RavindraKamath55Do the Jains think in the same way ? So far I have not come across anything like that.
formally these are darshanas not mazhabs @@prazbhatif you understand the difference you need to use the semantics of indic languages
kautilya was advisor of chandra gupt , he was hindu he retired in karnataka when old and became jain monk
Sir..I.. respect u..I.. love..u...
Muslim Rajputs are of two types: Dr. Asrar Ahmed type Rajput who declared that in Gawza a Hind, Hindu women would be distributed among Muslim as Loondis and jizzah would be imposed upon them ; Arif Muhammad Khan type Muslim who trace their origin to Lord Rama and resigned when Rajiv Gandhi turned aside the supreme court verdict
Any Rajput who is Muslim is not Rajput. It’s like saying momo was murti pujari. Not happening. Abt Rajput who is Muslim is a traitor
@@chiragmehta8212 Not necessarily. People used to become Muslims to show anti-Brahmavad.
Both are into extreme..
@@JamalKhan_Indiaarif muhmmad is not extreme 😊
yes no hindu rajput will marry into them they will come lickingbothers but hindus wont pick a fallen faith
Friends across the border - I accidentally dropped into the program and I was blown away by the high quality content. Full marks to the interviewer 🎉 My deepest respect to Mr. Salman - for his reading, travel, and most importantly the level of self-introspective enlightenment he has reached. ❤ I look forward to seeing programs on both the You Tube platforms from India
They are elitist of elitists
@@shortswallah4 could you please explain a bit?
@@TravelsNTrips yes certainly, inspite of ur education u Pakistan are still religious bigots... u pretend to be secular however it is very easy to discover how brainwashed ur.
@@TravelsNTrips they are super privileged person ,
danya vaad chaudhri saab.
Yes. muslims in India can still use persian names from pre islamic persia, like Rustom, Sohrab, Jamshed, Khusrau, and so on, but they are forbidden by muslim society to even mention the choice of hindu names. Now the trend may be Arabic names, but the fact is, as the late Tarek Fatih acknowledges, the roots of the pakistani Society are Hindu, not persian or arabic. the sooner they acknowledge that, the better off they will be.
Tell me, how can a country of 1.4 billion tell us Pakistanis who we are? We are 95% native sons of Indus River - a undispatble fact! Whether we are Pakhtuns, Punjabis, Kashmiri, Sindhi or Baloch we are 'sons of Indus River' and we do not take too kindly you or anybody else stick your nose in. You concentrate on finding a formule that includes 1. 4 billion.
We simply have to stick our history - Soanian civilization which adjacent to our Islamabad/Taxila from timeline going back to 100,000 years, then move forward to Mehrgarh some 8,000 years ago, moving to fabulous Mohenjo Daro, Harrapa, Gandhara, to Indo-Greeks and all the way to Muslims and English invasions. The name 'India' is of recent useage - it is English. Sindhu Safta, Hendu etc was used by Persians to describe us. As time moved forwad Hind came to include everybody. Today you and many others can thank us - India, West India, Indiana, Native Indians, Indo-China., Indonesia etc !
The same is true with Hindus right they are not Brahmins and 200-300 years ago, they used to eat cow beef.
@@Pakiza-Ali i think you are not educated.india is a cultural entity which has produced philosophy, maths, sculpture,Art having it's own culture 🎉
@@Pakiza-Alipakistan itself made on islamic scat.
As per all the literature related to Mahabharat there is plenty of it in India in Sanskrit and now in other languages also Punjab region was the main region full of Aryans and in fact famous dharmyodh of Mahabharata was fought in Punjab region. So had a very rich history and culture which unfortunately you are not reading and identifying yourself with. In fact you are taught to hate your culture and history as if your history/ culture started only in 1947 or may be 300-400 years back only in 16th or 17th century.
You need to realise that your culture is Indian and Is not Arab or Turk ( with no offence to those great cultures and civilizations just as we have our civilization) . Both Turks and Arabs also know the fact that you are not from their culture bhale hi aap unke jaise naam rakh le , pahnawa kar le.
You realise it first. Do you cow beef? Myths are not history.
Zia ul Haq was a great Islamic preacher & Reformist
A muslim, and that too Pakistani, accepting the truth. OMG am I dreaming.
No , you are just unlearning what your media or books have brainwashed you
If he is accepting the truth, he is no longer a muslim, he is a munafiq according to quran...
You should feel when a Hindu rises and fights against Brahmavad.
@@vinsin328 Aise ch@darmod to ek dhundo hazar mil jayenge, brahamin hi mil jayenge media, universities me jo ye propaganda chalate h... Maine ek Love Day k leftist se puncha k ye brahmanwad kya h, wo bola ye hamara propaganda h Bharat ko todne ka. Pr ye baat tere jaise BhaunShree wale ch@daemod nhi batayenge
@@vinsin328 हर पोस्ट पर आकर, एक ही propaganda चलाना और अपनी अम्मी खुदवाना जरूरी है क्या? बता ना भौं श्री वाले।
Smrat Ashok is a hindu smrat ❤
I feel you are speaking my mind. It’s not just about religion, we are people of the land and culture.
Thank you sir 🙏🙏
We will never realise our identity or religion until we address the fact that our country was created by the British because they wanted to continue colonisation in Asia the same way they created Israel to continue colonisation in the Middle East.
Love Mr Rashid. Love from your fans in India ❤
We have no same culture Pakistan culture far better than Endia...
Even most of the Indian leaders especially leftists like Nehru didn't have a clue of what they were getting into. The only exception was Patel
Uncle only if you knew meaning of Pakistan
P=Punjab
A=Afghania/KPK
K=Kashmir
S=Sindh
TAN= balchisTAN
Pakistani are neither Arab nor Beharis
I don't think he likes Pakistan. He probably wants Punjab to become independent and then merge with Khalistan.
They’re Biharis. Many of Biharis immigrated there
Uncle in other podcast mocking in local tribes of Pakistan and here mock on all over Pakistan. Feels like supermist!! !!!
Pakistani is not a race or ethnicity. Pakistanis are Punjabis, Blochis, Sindhis, Pathans, Kashmiris, Biharis, Bengalis and Uttar Pradeshis.
@@Karmazov But that may not be the case in about 100 years. As I said earlier, there have been numerous intermarriages. One of my own siblings married a Punjabi. I have relatives who married Pathan women. And at least 3 of my closest friends have wives from other ethnic groups. Their children are just Pakistani. As time goes by, there will be more such marriages, and a Pakistani ethnicity will emerge. If America can be a melting pot, why not Pakistan?
An example of supposed intelligence, yet a clear display of ignorance, neglecting many significant historical events and contemporary issues.
This guy has a childish understanding of history, it lacks nuance, or context.
He takes pieces of history, and creates childish conclusions. It really is sad.
90% pakistanis have hindu roots, hindu past and hindu ancestry.
Sir mainay Islamiyat kay exam mei thora such likh diya. Aur mei Fail hogaya tha. Lol😂😂
English subtitles please for us internationals 🙏🏼
Just for Endian views😅😅😅😅
Pakistan ke Punjabion aur Sindion dono ke Saath Barra dhakkaa Hua.
Urdu toh unko jubaan hi nahi thi.
Historical anachronism. He has bought into the European enlightenment idea of national state and ethno linguistic nationalism and grafting it on world history. Absurd and superficial
One whi has read Manto can never be communal.
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Always refreshes the mind....... 👍.......like number 290.
Atheist thoughts well defined
Till we don't learn , why and how this strip called Pakistan was created
We will remain lost
Jinnah Poonja Chap, whom the unwashed call Quaid e Azam, was a Hindu from village Panali in Gujrat
His house is can be seen on Google
His grandfather was Premji Lal, father. Poonja Lal
Poonja was a very clever chap, initially English tried to pass him as Ismaili Muslim and said he was born in Wazir Mansion near Ismaili Jamat Khana in Kharadar
But Ismaili Imam, refused to give a fake certificate that he was Ismaili
So in, 1900 it was decided to call him a Sunni Muslim and name was changed to Mohammad Ali
Rest history we know how with help of English and Hindus who were also in game,
Poonja created two nation theory
He got 1.5 million Muslims Slaughtered
Handed India to Hindus
Hindus, never had any say in ruling India
Till 1947, Muslims ruled over most of India. Whole of Punjab, Bengal, Assam, Kashmir, 35 Muslim States, in Central India, Hyderabad with half India wealth, Bijapur etc, were all under Muslim rule
Muslim culture centres like, Delhi, Lucknow, Agra, Kanpur, Hyderabad etc
Were also handed to Hindus,
Muslims were confined to a small strip they call Pakistan
This strip was to be a buffer, between Russia and India,
Unwashed mob called Pakistanis will not comprehend till they read history of Great Game, which started in 1840s
Inke khayal se chandragupt budhist tha, as per actual hindu nahi bolenge
Both speaking lie, Bulley shah is his uncle.
admi jab budhe hote hai tabhi jakar akal ati hai 😂😂🤣 taxila nanhi takhyasila hai
Intelligent 🧠
Alhamdulillah Proud to be Punjabi❤
Taxila university phir se banao
Most Muslims and Hindus of Punjab have abandoned Punjabi, language of their forefathers , giving way to the language of Delhi and Uttar Pradesh( land of Ganga and Yamuna) in the heartland of Punjab( land of five rivers). Post Independence in one of the census Punjabi Hindus united to mention their language as Hindi, betraying language they spoke in their shops, homes and business places. Now Urdu has become language of Muslims, Hindi language of Hindus and Sikhs are probably the last heritage keepers of Punjabi left
Agaya khalistani malecha sikhi😂.......
Apni khudki banai Hui history leke.....
Apni superiority or apni mahanta Wale kaam batane
Yes, I agree. I too have seen this decline, among Friends and Family.
I am a Bengali married to a Punjabi. Both of us have roots Pakistan & Bangladesh.
Bengali retains, Punjabi does not. I see this in my Friends (since my youth) into their Children.
According to you punjabi Hindu ne punjabi chodke hindi bolna start kiya 😂to Phir to jo state 1960 me punjab se tut k Hindu majority state bane himachal pradesh Delhi haryana ki official language Hindi kyu nahi hai aur punjab k Hindu aj bhi punjabi kyu bolte hai 😂aur up bihar k Hindu bhojpuri ko official language kyu bolte hai hindi kyu nahi bolte😂
Bhai tumko history ka kuch nahi pata hai punjab se tutke Hindu majority state haryana himachal pradesh bane hain aur dono state me hindi nahi boli jati dono ki official language kuch aur hai basically tumko pata bhi hai punjabi language ko hinduo ne banaya tha 1600 saal pehle thoda research karle Bhai 😅
@@Adam-xh3pq wahi toh sikhi ka jab koi astitva nahi tha tab Hindu Punjabi gurmukhi me Dharmik Granth likhte the....
Show host karnay wala intahai niqama hai
I am an ambedkarite atheist. Do not believe in religions. However all debates about identity, ancestry etc harmful for humanity. We should seek truth . Ancestry related talks nothing else but pure racism
😂😂😂😂😂😂..... Ambetkarite 😂😂😂😂😂
Neo Buddhism laughing as new religion by kaba sahib ambetkar
Be pende ka lota. Ambedkar was born in sanatan dharam died in sanatan dharam.Buddh DARSHAN IS PART OF SANATAN DHARAM
I also think like you. The problems of world can’t be solved till this identity continues to be stuffed in mind. Human history is nothing but clashes of changing identities. What is identity: we don’t select it, it’s accidentally imposed on us at the time of birth, not our choice, we are brainwashed in it and started to treat similar human beings as others. Sometime birth identities collide as Brahamin vs Dalits, sometimes Hindu vs Muslims, sometimes linguistic as Hindi vs Gujarati, sometimes as clan Rajputs vs Arains, since last two centuries a new creation, nationalism: India Vs Pakistan vs china etc. it’s a never ending illiteracy, brainwashed people on basis of birth acquired imaginary identity.
I respect your observation
Ambedkar was taught by Brahman and given his surname. SO DONT BR ANGRY AND MOVE ON...STOP COHOTING WITH ISLAMISTS
You're an atheist and call yourself amdekarite Kam se Kam Jo bol rahe us par toh raho
SAda Sona Punjab❤
Sadi Soni Zuban Punjabi❤
Britisher engineered divisive that culminated into bbloodshed because of power vacuum
There is some evidence that Urdu originated in Punjab, which has also produced some of the greatest Urdu poets and writers. So, Urdu is not alien to Punjab.
He is making it sound as if there was some conspiracy and the British and Urdu-speaking elite were imposing Urdu on Punjabis. What's the evidence?
The fact is that Urdu succeeded primarily because it was closer to Arabic and Farsi and could convey Islamic principles and thought. Punjabi simply didn't have that vocabulary or alphabet. Even now, many Punjabis cannot pronounce AYN, GHAYN, QAAF, HAA correctly. Hindi had the some issue because it too didn't have these characters along with ZA. Urdu is brilliant in the sense that its Urdu alphabet covers all sounds.
There are many Muslim countries in the world where their language is completely different from Arabic. For example Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia etc. Are you trying to imply that Pakistanis are better Muslims than those because of Urdu ?
duffers of the highest order
Wrong, Urdu was born in what we called UP now patiyali to be specific. w@@Karmazov
@@Karmazov Well, Urdu is our language just as Malay language is the language of Malaysia. Urdu is NOT a foreign language. It has been around, as a literary language, in all parts what is now Pakistan and India for hundreds of years, primarily among the Muslims.
Yes, Pakistanis are better Muslims because of Urdu, which has vast Islamic literature. In fact, more Islamic books have been published in Urdu than in any other south Asian language. Most of the translations of Hadith books and commentaries only exist in Urdu. It would be nearly impossible to translate them into pure Punjabi or any other language of Pakistan.
@@QabilAGhor In what ways are Pakistani Muslims better than other Muslims?
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Chandragupta maurya was fallower of jain religion....
How I wish we had intellectuals like Him everywhere Life is not good or bad Life is all about Rationalism and Vice Versa
Urdu is 99.99% Hindi with few Arabic words.
Check the Bollywood movies names
80% are in Persian
Zindgi / tofan/ faisla/bagban and plenty more
Hindi is just ugly version of Urdu
And Urdu itself is pigeon language of Persian and Punjabi
So called “Hindi” people deny their mother languages like boujpuri/Marwari etc
So sit down Behari
Hindi is a new age language made on the way of Urdu. It was formed in the 19th century British regime.
Most or nearly of your "Hindi" words are in fact Arabic, Farsi or Turkic in origin.
You are right 😂mr🎉 salman, he is realistic, àppreciate his true thinking 👍😍
No arbi call them self QURESH only THOK ALA musalman called themselves.
Not Bulle Shah infact all our mystic poets and saints were sensitive and addressed issues on political social and cultural levels.
With due respect, Sir you need to go more in depth for these radiant personalities before naming their names.
Two nation theory is not based on language,dress or culture.it is based on religion.who r u.u should learn
Jinnah na apna matlab ka liya pakistan bnaya bo pm ka bhuka tha 😂
24:45 bulle shah was a yogi, meditator. Someone who comes across the truth they dont need books. People with high sensitivity and attentions
23:17 there were no hard and fast religions back then, not even now, what was and is schools of thoughts. People used to leave and adopt methods to reach the divine. Chandragupta was son of the soil who adoped Jainism and retired and left the kingdom by age of 40. He left his body through fasting unto death.
I like this guy Salman. Great story teller.
I am from a place that is known as jain Kashi...we have Bahubali statue monolithic granite statue of around 900 years back. In my childhood I have had friends and it was considered as a Jasti not dharma ..and there are families that share surname and family ties but half is Hindu caste and other professes Jainism. Once minority reservation came into practice, things started to change .name of my place is Karkala in Udupi district.. Google and find out.
Ok so did people convert?
@@AyushGupta-rq4quthere’s no conversions amongst them. That’s Abrahamic.
Jain, sikh, buddh r all part of Sanatan. Just like Shivam or charvak r. Different branches. Outsiders rewrote history/policies in order to separate them artificially in order to cause wars amongst ingroups. It’s a classic war strategy
@@AyushGupta-rq4qu Exept Christian and Muslims take converting others as their sacred responsibility. They can adopt threat and violence as did by Francis Xavier and company in Goa during Portugese rule, inducement during British time by giving free land and now money.. muslims by violence and deception...if any person changes religion and belief.by understanding the ideology is fine...other methods are immoral, unethical and illegal..
Indians as a whole promote content to uplift the morale of their people, we on the other hand create content totally irrelevant to the current situation of our country, and that too ridiculing our society and our people. Salman sb needs to let go this habit of correcting society and history.
Chandragupta Mourya was hindu as a ruler and he retired as a Jain monk
You deserve a role in a good family movie. You have the power of expression.
He would stand with Sikhs against Afghans in the Sikh Afghan war.
Salman Sahb holding his nurves
BHAI bohat lucky hai jo aisy sawal kr k bach gya
Punjab ke aj bhi ziyada tar log punjabi bolte hn, ager koi urdu bolta bhi he tu is mn koi masla nhi kiun ke ye qaumi zubaan he, dono zubanain hamari hn, ager hmain kisi doosre province ke logon se baat krni ho tu hum urdu mn baat kr skte hn. Ye log kabhi english ke baare mn kiun baat nhi krte. Urdu aur punjabi ke tu bht alfaaz same.
What a knowledge , man is speaking on supposition
interviewer should have done more homework
Bulley tu nachawe ......naal to nachana painda hai😊😂😅😮😢🎉😂🎉🎉🎉
Bhai start me jo short information dete ho video me uske uper coming up next likha kare achi story hogi ❤
Salman bhai asal her chez ko bechne ke liye mazhab se jodia jata hai
A pleasure to listen to Salman.
Jinnah was also Hindu and he formed Islamic country...
Jinnah family was khoja Shia 20:01 . He converted to Twelver Shia muslim ideology later on
Excellent talk