The spongy shift pedal is a result of how all transmissions are made these days when the bikes have quickshifter/blippers. That spongy feel is the manufacturer mking you to compress a spring attached to the shifter mechanism in order to guarantee enough lever force to make the shift happen. The old days of aftermarket ignition cut style shifters tended to work well only at certain RPM, throttle, and engine load ranges, and most didn't work below 3krpm. Forcing the rider to put enough pressure on the pedal allows them to get the shifting smoother and more reliable over a wider range of RPM. Cheers.
I think the argument is that it doesn't have the EC2 like the Tuono and streetfighter and the Speed Triple RR. If your paying the premium price then you expect the gadgets which are in par with the competitors
i can confirm the fly screen even without the added visor kit makes a TON of difference .. especially over a 70 mph Also neutral gets easier and easier to select as the gear box breaks in
Look the Racefit exhaust changes this bike completely, it turns it into a monster and I found it completely transformed the quickshifter experience with pops and bangs on the downshift , its too refined with the original exhaust.
Thanks Apurva - the heat is a little noticeable but the engine can breathe without a fairing. The bike is so refined riding in slow traffic that if you felt too much engine heat you would forgive it. If the bike was difficult to ride slow and you had engine heat well you would get angry over time 😅
Believe it or not my wife is convincing me to buy this bike. Man I love her what a keeper. Just waiting for insurance to pay out my totaled bike then I'm probably gonna need about 2 months to save the rest of the money so I'll have this bad boy by end of year and for next season
Thanks for this review, and as always, riders will know for themselves if all, most or... none of their boxes are checked. I'm definitely looking for a super-naked, so far it's the new Tuono V4 (standard) and this new Speed Triple 1200.
I had the tuono 1100 factory and sold it. It was a fantastic bike but when I got a shot of my dads 765rs I wanted one the handing on the road was so good and to be fair not that much of a power loss I thing my next bike will be the 1200rs after how good the 765rs is
Something about this bike, although its design is very similar to the Street Triple, its much better looking. I guess because in a way, its more minimalistic. Nice video, keep it up.
@@BikesofRye overall, yes I agree with you, there are far better looking bikes out there. Also I have to admit that I can't really judge it that well vs the street triple without seeing it in person.
As much power as it has, watching your videos, it seems that you have much more fun on your Street Triple. Holding back as you were, isn’t half as much fun, as wringing a bikes neck. Great review Rye 👏🏻
Very nice review. Fair and balanced and bringing up the pros/cons of the bike. I would love a go on the new Speed. Always enjoy your content. Cheers from the US! Ride safe
How does it fare against the BMW S1000R? I'm considering an upgrade in the next one of two months and these two are the choices I have. I'm confused and can't seem to decide which one I should go for!! 😳
This bike is amazing on the road and even better on the track, this was my second choice over the Tuono but the Tuono turned out to be too expensive to buy and insure as this is my first bike after 7 years away from biking. It handles like its on rails, goes like stink, is refind the brakes are like nothing else and with the Racefit exhaust it's a complete animal💥 makes the 1290 sound like a pussy cat lol.
Was thinking of getting the bmw single r between the year 15-19 cuz that one had the killer power band but I'm kinda leaning more towards this new speed triple I love the street triple but this has the extra power I'm looking for and I don't think you need a 4 cylinder naked cuz I'd rather have the low end so the triple is perfect but idk man I love all bikes lol
I was looking at this bike at the time of the video make and decided to get the 2021 BMW S1000R Sports instead. Both great bikes but I'm glad I chose what I did. Having said that I had the 2012 Speed Triple before this and absolutely loved that bike. We are spoilt for choices.
What is your weight? I believe you only said you were 6' 4", and you look in good shape, wondering if that will be the major affect on the suspension not being stiff like others say?
Im surprised with your mixed feelings over this mate given all the other reviews ive saw about it. Obviously everyone’s different and getting split opinions is definitely interesting to see. Why do people keep banging on about how stiff the suspension is its fully adjustable for god sake. All things considered do you think this could be a future trade in for the Street RS?
The constant moaning about the suspension is quite boring. I’m guessing people are too lazy to adjust it themselves and are more than willing to add 3 grand to the price-tag for Active Suspension. I went from the 1050 to this and it’s probably the best decision I ever made.
Think the bike is so very good but yeah for me it seems to be missing something. The supernaked competition is so fierce and not sure what the Speed offers as a characterful difference. Though it is an amazing bit of kit
@@BikesofRye set up the ohlins and it transforms the bike, it's a big street really, just need a slightly different input to take it there, it's a refined unit across the board, racefit exhaust if you can take the extra decibels, love it
Hey rye, that was one highly awaited review. Loved it mate, nicely explained.✌️ P.s. that exhaust surely does let it down in terms of aesthetic appeal.
Good review mate as per, having had the street triple rs as well i just upgraded this year to the 1200....felt like the natural progression. Street just didnt have that power factor as i can tell from your video...you also noticed😁. I found the Cruise controland simplified clearer display are big extras over the street as well . I personally couldnt find a current super naked that was faultless and my sweet spot for Triumphs just made it the one for me. Also the slight Neutral clutch issue you were experiencing is easily fixed at the dealer , they need to recalibrate the TSA. Ill be amazed if you jump ship after seeing the passion you have for street. Ill keep watch and see what you do👍🏼
Looks like an awesome bike - but still can't find neutral!! I've got a GT Sprint 1050 which again is an awesome ride but has the same problem - neutral is nowhere to be found once it heats up. Surely Triumph could have sorted this out by now!!
It is a great bike, but I don't need a 1200 or a 178bhp bike... for the road. Honestly, ill wait for a cruise control update for the street. It is coming just have to be patient lol
Thinking of swapping my 765 RS For a Speed RS 1200 - Whats your opinion on it - I love the triple 765 its my second but I test road 1200 last weekend & think I could get use to it - great deal at a triumph dealer £13600 new pre registered
Great bike. It came through in your review. Why doesn't it have the cache of the other premium naked superbikes? Looks good (RR as well), sounds incredible (you'd never notice that you swapped the Sttreet for the Speed), fully adjustable suspension - what's NOT to love? When the price creeps over $20k, people will take another look at it...
Good review,. The problem about the stiffness is due to the tires. Metzeler makes the bike very stiff. I changed them one month ago for contirace attack 2 street and It is another bike, It is like my old speed 1050 rs. A boy told me that s22 makes a big different too but I only can tell about Conti. Metzeler is not a bad tire but I think It is more focus for track days. With Conti the bike change quite a lot, I recommend try another tire
How do you find it vs your old 1050 RS? I am just wondering if I should pay the extra 7k for a 1200RS or not, only ridden the 1050 about a week ago, and I did enjoy it, but coming from an MT09 Im not sure if it will excite me as much..
@@jeffreymees7112 I sold my old RS to buy the new speed 1200. The new speed is a different animal, faster, less inertia, lighter, more agile ... it is like a very very powerful street. The only problem that I see is the metzeler, which makes the bike seem excessively stiff on bumpy roads if the road is perfect
@@BikesofRye i have a 2019 765 RS and looking to trade in for the speed 1200 RS or 1290R , iam edging towards the 1290R due to all the issues i see people having with the 1200 and the 1200 poor fuel range. But its very close deciding. I really wish they both had semi active suspension.
Question currently have a 1200R thruxton looking at trading it for the 2022 Street triple RS or the speed triple just don’t know if the speed triples really worth it/the money I’d like to know your opinion
Honestly the 1200RS is pretty much a bit more of everything the 765RS offers... brakes, suspension, power and a little more tech on the 1200RS. I'd personally go for the 765RS
Doesn't the suspension play a big part on the weight of the rider as I weigh less than 58KG and I ride the current 2019 Speed Triple RS which is extremely fast for a short rider like me (5ft 3"). I thought about the new Speed Triple but I think being very track focused could be too hard for my size and weight.
Rider weight absolutely matters... you will likely find the suspension too hard at 58kg. I would wonder if the suspension allows enough adjustment before needing to change the springs
@@Falkon786 I think they will sharpen up the body work and give it new colours too which I think it needs to be honest...especially given the competition
After riding all the new 2021 super nakeds this summer my order came out as: 1) S1000R 2) Super Duke R / Tuono Factory 3) Speed Triple RS but everyone's buying criteria is different. Mine was to find a second bike for weekends, to go alongside my MT07.
Considerably cheaper for the sport yet way more tech and the chassis/suspension just pipped it ever so slightly. Have to say also that I preferred slightly less power too
I am so in love with this model except ONE thing kills the deal for me ....I love a WINDSHIELD and Triumph botched their headlightguage cluster design so badly apparently no one can even fit a decent windscreen on em? DEAL KILLER! How can such a great company screw up something so simple? Not to mention they COULD have sold a a bunch of aftermarket windshields save for their bizarre nonesensical engineering of that area! Compare to Yamaha MT-10 where an aftermarket screen or factory optional touring screen is so clean looks wise just 4 bolts and 5 minutes....and it is frame mounted like triumph too! Damn BMW and Honda mount the headlight and guages to the FORKS man I HATE that! hanging a touring windscreen is like a SAIL! I think KTM 1290 did it right .....if you can live with bug eye headlights ....well ALL the models have funky headlights anyway. BTW I SOOO would have bought the RR version of the Speed Triple except I am not into torturing my wrists and neck and Triumph engineers left NO possibility of raising bars as control lines have zero slack and there is no extra room in fairing....Had they just allowed for upgrading the ergos? THAT would have been my motorcycle! grrrr ....I mean I really like my MT-10 dont get me wrong but I think the Speed Triple is a better bike....but i INSIST on a real windshield and Triumph does not get that for whatever bizarre reason
@@kevinofishero Not sure where you get this perception from. I've just had a look at the dyno chart for the streetfighter. The triumph makes 125Nm of peak torque at 9k rpm. The streetfighter exceeds the triumph in torque at this same RPM. In fact, the Ducati makes the triumph's peak at around 7800rpm (that's around 1200rpm lower than the triumph). I haven't seen the triumph's dyno chart (I haven't been able to find one), but, I assume that the Ducati keeps making more torque even lower in the rev range. Maybe, maybe, you can argue that the triumph at some point makes more torque... at this point if we are talking a window between 2000 - 4000 rpm where the triumph makes a little bit more, then I say it doesn't actually have more usable power at all. Even then, if you were correct to suggest that the triumph has more usable power, a buying decision is not judged purely on power. The Ducati is just way more desirable.
@@Omar-kw5ui my observation was just from a test ride perspective. I found that the kind of roads I normally ride (Bucks B roads) the Ducati just felt lack lustre at lower speeds. It was no fun at all and almost frustrating. On the other hand the The Speed felt so at home on normal roads and a misile when I got the chance to open the throttle. The Ducati however is a far more stunning bike to look at… I think the Triple Engine, the cost and actually having a fuel gauge is finally what swung for me!
Had one over 3 years now & done 15k on it , had the first black one in Wales 🏴 , it’s suspension was shocking for me when first got but had it set for me very early on , have fitted race fit exhaust , taken rear seat cowl off and replaced with carbon fibre , removed rear foot pegs , love it now . Much lighter than factory ., the exhaust and cat weigh lots .. getting in to. Neutral easy from second gear , most try from first , they design bikes to hit neutral from second down so don’t hit on up shifts . Love the triple engine .. gear shift and quick shifter is awesome on mine , I’d say best gear box I’ve used & I’ve used plenty , my BMW is agricultural by comparison 👍.
Excellent review👍🏽 I’d really like to see you review a KTM 1290 if possible. I think that ktm beast definitely has sex appeal, although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Of course any of the naked MV Agusta line is the epitome of sex appeal. Your 890 r review was helpful in my decision in purchasing that crazy ktm machine. Thank you. Looking forward for your next posting. Keep up the great work!
Lovely bike but of the 4 riding buddies I know who have owned 2 have rejected due to multiple faults, 1 no issues at all and 1 the anti freeze bottle cover flew off on one occasion and the fuel pipe wasn't crimped and it poured all over the bike mid ride with it being about 500 miles old. It would seem (I dont own one) it has a few teething issues
just listen to yourself at the start of the video when you're talking about how compliant the suspension is,your voice is juddering as much as the rough ride!
The suspension is sporty and the road I was travelling on was bumpy. I select great routes to test a bike and I feel given how bumpy the road was the bike was handling it very well. I would be honest if I felt it was too harsh
@@xorbe2 I know but it's different I don't know if I like the single head light. I kinda meant more so if they have a bikini fairing for the rs with that headlight styling
I know you said that you think that the suspension is good and not too stiff on this bike .. but have you heard your voice in the first 4 minutes.. (especially the bit when your are talking about the suspension not being too stiff )..🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️.. it sounds like you’re shivering and your teeth are chattering 🤣🤣.. I’ve never heard you sound like this before ?? 👌👌.. it could be a clue about the suspension 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Haha honestly it's just sporty there was enough give in both front and rear for my weight. Those roads are rough so it is actually a fair test. The bike looks to track the road surface with what feels like great high speed compression damping. No doubt it could benefit from a setup though to rider weight and wants
@@BikesofRye 😁😁👌👌thank you for your reply .. can I ask you about your Street RS please .. have you altered your rear preload at all .. because in the user guide it says it’s not rider adjustable .?? I’m 5’9”..and 13.3 stone without kit !! I’ve just bought a new RS .. just running it in at mo .. your vids were very helpful in my deciding to buy this bike !!😁😁👌🤝🤝.thank you .Dean.
The spongy shift pedal is a result of how all transmissions are made these days when the bikes have quickshifter/blippers. That spongy feel is the manufacturer mking you to compress a spring attached to the shifter mechanism in order to guarantee enough lever force to make the shift happen. The old days of aftermarket ignition cut style shifters tended to work well only at certain RPM, throttle, and engine load ranges, and most didn't work below 3krpm. Forcing the rider to put enough pressure on the pedal allows them to get the shifting smoother and more reliable over a wider range of RPM.
Cheers.
Thanks for sharing really great to know!!
@@BikesofRye is it a quick motorcycle?
Always baffles me how people complain about suspension being too hard, there’s a reason why it’s adjustable 🤣
It might be adjustable for compression but there is a limit. It may mean you need to change the spring for rider weight
Amen to that
The suspension is not too hard. It’s just become a bit fashionable to say that.
I think the argument is that it doesn't have the EC2 like the Tuono and streetfighter and the Speed Triple RR. If your paying the premium price then you expect the gadgets which are in par with the competitors
@@BikesofRye it has preload adjustment plus compression and rebound damping adjustment too.
i can confirm the fly screen even without the added visor kit makes a TON of difference .. especially over a 70 mph
Also neutral gets easier and easier to select as the gear box breaks in
Good to hear thanks for sharing Yashin
Look the Racefit exhaust changes this bike completely, it turns it into a monster and I found it completely transformed the quickshifter experience with pops and bangs on the downshift , its too refined with the original exhaust.
Would love to hear one properly with an exhaust on - actually only racefit do an exhaust for the bike at the moment right?
Great review sir…how’s the engine heat in slow and go traffic??
Thanks Apurva - the heat is a little noticeable but the engine can breathe without a fairing. The bike is so refined riding in slow traffic that if you felt too much engine heat you would forgive it. If the bike was difficult to ride slow and you had engine heat well you would get angry over time 😅
@@BikesofRye super ….thank youuuuuu so much for your time…🙌
Believe it or not my wife is convincing me to buy this bike. Man I love her what a keeper. Just waiting for insurance to pay out my totaled bike then I'm probably gonna need about 2 months to save the rest of the money so I'll have this bad boy by end of year and for next season
What a superb wife you have!. Can't go wrong with a 1200RS either
I'm thinking of the 1200rs but I think it needs that exhaust changing, tail tidy and a bug screen (to protect the dash).
100%
Thanks for this review, and as always, riders will know for themselves if all, most or... none of their boxes are checked.
I'm definitely looking for a super-naked, so far it's the new Tuono V4 (standard) and this new Speed Triple 1200.
Thanks Robert - yes totally agree! Have you ridden the latest speed and Tuono?
I had the tuono 1100 factory and sold it. It was a fantastic bike but when I got a shot of my dads 765rs I wanted one the handing on the road was so good and to be fair not that much of a power loss I thing my next bike will be the 1200rs after how good the 765rs is
Something about this bike, although its design is very similar to the Street Triple, its much better looking. I guess because in a way, its more minimalistic. Nice video, keep it up.
You need to look for the subtle details I agree however I do feel it lacks overall beauty no? The colour doesn't help either...
@@BikesofRye overall, yes I agree with you, there are far better looking bikes out there. Also I have to admit that I can't really judge it that well vs the street triple without seeing it in person.
@@BikesofRye much nicer in the gloss black colourway
@@motoborn4642I agree! I would get the gloss black. My 2011 is a gloss black.
As much power as it has, watching your videos, it seems that you have much more fun on your Street Triple.
Holding back as you were, isn’t half as much fun, as wringing a bikes neck.
Great review Rye 👏🏻
I think you would just get into more trouble on the Speed to be honest 😇
@@BikesofRye not sure if I missed this in your review, but is this too much for the road you think?
Bought the 1200rs arrives Monday woooo 😎great video mate 👍
Very nice review. Fair and balanced and bringing up the pros/cons of the bike. I would love a go on the new Speed. Always enjoy your content. Cheers from the US! Ride safe
Thank you for the positive feedback and love the fact my content reaches so many people across the world!
Picking up the Speed Triple 1200RR on Tuesday February 8th! The Crystal White is beautiful. if I do say so myself. 😄
How does it fare against the BMW S1000R? I'm considering an upgrade in the next one of two months and these two are the choices I have. I'm confused and can't seem to decide which one I should go for!! 😳
This bike is amazing on the road and even better on the track, this was my second choice over the Tuono but the Tuono turned out to be too expensive to buy and insure as this is my first bike after 7 years away from biking. It handles like its on rails, goes like stink, is refind the brakes are like nothing else and with the Racefit exhaust it's a complete animal💥 makes the 1290 sound like a pussy cat lol.
Liking the new content recently 👌 keep it coming. Would be good to see what helmets etc you're currently using or upgrading to.
Thank you - will put together a video at some point of all my riding gear
It’s the best bike I’ve ever ridden… Thanks for the great review
Thanks Kevin it is a stunning bit of kit for sure
I like a stiff setup for the weekends
You can read that so wrong 🤣
Swoped 765rs for 1200rs the 765rs is a road and track weapon hope 1200rs is as good
Absolutely love your review 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It’s the best bike ever 👍🏻
Nice review. Is that speedo showing in miles or kms? Just for perspective. Thank you.
Mph
The RS 1200 has as much power over the RS 765 as the 1050 had over the 675 back in the day. My buddy Jim wants the RS, I want the RR.
Get the RR pre-ordered then!! Just trade a couple of your bikes in to arrange that 🤣
Was thinking of getting the bmw single r between the year 15-19 cuz that one had the killer power band but I'm kinda leaning more towards this new speed triple I love the street triple but this has the extra power I'm looking for and I don't think you need a 4 cylinder naked cuz I'd rather have the low end so the triple is perfect but idk man I love all bikes lol
the exhaust just looks like a kitchen electrical appliance of some sort
Totally agree
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I was looking at this bike at the time of the video make and decided to get the 2021 BMW S1000R Sports instead. Both great bikes but I'm glad I chose what I did. Having said that I had the 2012 Speed Triple before this and absolutely loved that bike. We are spoilt for choices.
What is your weight? I believe you only said you were 6' 4", and you look in good shape, wondering if that will be the major affect on the suspension not being stiff like others say?
Weight is definitely a factor... I am 6ft and weight around 90kg with clothing
@@BikesofRye im 5ft 10in and about 75kg with clothing, decent enough difference. She sure as hell must be a rocket lol
Im surprised with your mixed feelings over this mate given all the other reviews ive saw about it. Obviously everyone’s different and getting split opinions is definitely interesting to see. Why do people keep banging on about how stiff the suspension is its fully adjustable for god sake. All things considered do you think this could be a future trade in for the Street RS?
The constant moaning about the suspension is quite boring. I’m guessing people are too lazy to adjust it themselves and are more than willing to add 3 grand to the price-tag for Active Suspension. I went from the 1050 to this and it’s probably the best decision I ever made.
Think the bike is so very good but yeah for me it seems to be missing something. The supernaked competition is so fierce and not sure what the Speed offers as a characterful difference. Though it is an amazing bit of kit
@@BikesofRye set up the ohlins and it transforms the bike, it's a big street really, just need a slightly different input to take it there, it's a refined unit across the board, racefit exhaust if you can take the extra decibels, love it
Ehst are your thoughts between this and the s1000r? These two are on my short list afyer selling my ftr1200. Cheers
How would you compare the turning circle to your 765? I did a test ride on one, and that was the only thing holding me off buying it at the time.
I can't say I noticed a difference but then I didn't really pull a 180 on it to find out
Hey rye, that was one highly awaited review. Loved it mate, nicely explained.✌️
P.s. that exhaust surely does let it down in terms of aesthetic appeal.
Thanks Shivam!! Yes the exhaust doesn't fit with the overall design of the bike
Well an Aftermarket one should fix that just right!
Sound like a great bike, hope you get to ride the part faired RR version soon.
If there is a demo about I will be all over it
Good review mate as per, having had the street triple rs as well i just upgraded this year to the 1200....felt like the natural progression. Street just didnt have that power factor as i can tell from your video...you also noticed😁. I found the Cruise controland simplified clearer display are big extras over the street as well . I personally couldnt find a current super naked that was faultless and my sweet spot for Triumphs just made it the one for me. Also the slight Neutral clutch issue you were experiencing is easily fixed at the dealer , they need to recalibrate the TSA. Ill be amazed if you jump ship after seeing the passion you have for street. Ill keep watch and see what you do👍🏼
Looks like an awesome bike - but still can't find neutral!! I've got a GT Sprint 1050 which again is an awesome ride but has the same problem - neutral is nowhere to be found once it heats up. Surely Triumph could have sorted this out by now!!
My Street Triple has no problem finding neutral to be honest
This bike goes better into neutral from 2nd I found. But it takes some subtle poking to get there :)
It is a great bike, but I don't need a 1200 or a 178bhp bike... for the road.
Honestly, ill wait for a cruise control update for the street. It is coming just have to be patient lol
Have you test ridden the 1200? It is an animal. I don't believe I could properly use it
Thinking of swapping my 765 RS For a Speed RS 1200 - Whats your opinion on it - I love the triple 765 its my second but I test road 1200 last weekend & think I could get use to it - great deal at a triumph dealer £13600 new pre registered
Great bike. It came through in your review. Why doesn't it have the cache of the other premium naked superbikes? Looks good (RR as well), sounds incredible (you'd never notice that you swapped the Sttreet for the Speed), fully adjustable suspension - what's NOT to love? When the price creeps over $20k, people will take another look at it...
Good review,. The problem about the stiffness is due to the tires. Metzeler makes the bike very stiff. I changed them one month ago for contirace attack 2 street and It is another bike, It is like my old speed 1050 rs. A boy told me that s22 makes a big different too but I only can tell about Conti. Metzeler is not a bad tire but I think It is more focus for track days. With Conti the bike change quite a lot, I recommend try another tire
You know that is a very good point. Thanks for sharing
How do you find it vs your old 1050 RS? I am just wondering if I should pay the extra 7k for a 1200RS or not, only ridden the 1050 about a week ago, and I did enjoy it, but coming from an MT09 Im not sure if it will excite me as much..
@@jeffreymees7112 the 1200RS would smoke the 1050RS in my opinion
@@jeffreymees7112 I sold my old RS to buy the new speed 1200. The new speed is a different animal, faster, less inertia, lighter, more agile ... it is like a very very powerful street. The only problem that I see is the metzeler, which makes the bike seem excessively stiff on bumpy roads if the road is perfect
@@BikesofRyeit would certainly smoke it on the track. On the road , doubt it. The 1050 is more than enough for the road..
What are your other choices in terms of potential replacement bikes for the S.Triple RS?
Japanese leaderbikes naturally.
@@mortaljorma69 btw its Litre bike rather than leader bike. Its a common mistake, but, the name comes from 1000cc = 1 Litre if you were interested.
There are a handful but honestly the superduke r really has my attention
@@BikesofRye i have a 2019 765 RS and looking to trade in for the speed 1200 RS or 1290R , iam edging towards the 1290R due to all the issues i see people having with the 1200 and the 1200 poor fuel range. But its very close deciding. I really wish they both had semi active suspension.
Another great review, this looks like the perfect upgrade over the street. 🙂
Thanks Jack! It's definitely a worthy upgrade
Question currently have a 1200R thruxton looking at trading it for the 2022 Street triple RS or the speed triple just don’t know if the speed triples really worth it/the money I’d like to know your opinion
Honestly the 1200RS is pretty much a bit more of everything the 765RS offers... brakes, suspension, power and a little more tech on the 1200RS. I'd personally go for the 765RS
Doesn't the suspension play a big part on the weight of the rider as I weigh less than 58KG and I ride the current 2019 Speed Triple RS which is extremely fast for a short rider like me (5ft 3"). I thought about the new Speed Triple but I think being very track focused could be too hard for my size and weight.
Rider weight absolutely matters... you will likely find the suspension too hard at 58kg. I would wonder if the suspension allows enough adjustment before needing to change the springs
@@BikesofRye Thank you, I will most likely wait for the second gen Speed Triple 1200 as they will most likely fix any issues.
@@Falkon786 I think they will sharpen up the body work and give it new colours too which I think it needs to be honest...especially given the competition
i'm 5'6 and loved it, the suspension was quality, I was hoping it would be a big Street RS as I love mine, I think they've managed it.
Finally you got to have your hands on the 1200 rs 😂 it was a long wait indeed😂
I know!! Well hope it was worth the wait 😇
After riding all the new 2021 super nakeds this summer my order came out as:
1) S1000R
2) Super Duke R / Tuono Factory
3) Speed Triple RS
but everyone's buying criteria is different. Mine was to find a second bike for weekends, to go alongside my MT07.
Why get the 1200 over the 1000?
Awesome vid. Test ride a sportbike next!
Thanks!! We will get to those levels soon 😁
Is that bike a bit to much for someone that comes from a Z650?
This bike would destroy a Z650 in performance. I would recommend the Street Triple instead
Mate, what was it about the S1000R that made you chose it over this Speed 1200 RS?
Considerably cheaper for the sport yet way more tech and the chassis/suspension just pipped it ever so slightly. Have to say also that I preferred slightly less power too
@@BikesofRye Thanks. What do you mean by "cheaper for the sport"?
@@motozest7856 There are three packages you can spec. Basic, Sport or M Sport
@@BikesofRye Thanks, man.
As you’re saying it’s very plush your voice is chopping and you can see the forks bouncing up and down it seems pretty firm to me
The bike is sporty - it follows the road surface it is on very well. Damping is very good
I am so in love with this model except ONE thing kills the deal for me ....I love a WINDSHIELD and Triumph botched their headlightguage cluster design so badly apparently no one can even fit a decent windscreen on em? DEAL KILLER! How can such a great company screw up something so simple? Not to mention they COULD have sold a a bunch of aftermarket windshields save for their bizarre nonesensical engineering of that area! Compare to Yamaha MT-10 where an aftermarket screen or factory optional touring screen is so clean looks wise just 4 bolts and 5 minutes....and it is frame mounted like triumph too! Damn BMW and Honda mount the headlight and guages to the FORKS man I HATE that! hanging a touring windscreen is like a SAIL! I think KTM 1290 did it right .....if you can live with bug eye headlights ....well ALL the models have funky headlights anyway. BTW I SOOO would have bought the RR version of the Speed Triple except I am not into torturing my wrists and neck and Triumph engineers left NO possibility of raising bars as control lines have zero slack and there is no extra room in fairing....Had they just allowed for upgrading the ergos? THAT would have been my motorcycle! grrrr ....I mean I really like my MT-10 dont get me wrong but I think the Speed Triple is a better bike....but i INSIST on a real windshield and Triumph does not get that for whatever bizarre reason
Overall, nice bike, but, if I was in the market for a super naked, I would save up the extra 2k for a Ducati Street Fighter.
The competition is fierce in the supernaked segment
The Ducati does not have the same usable power. Even the 2021 version suffers at low speeds.
@@kevinofishero Not sure where you get this perception from. I've just had a look at the dyno chart for the streetfighter. The triumph makes 125Nm of peak torque at 9k rpm. The streetfighter exceeds the triumph in torque at this same RPM. In fact, the Ducati makes the triumph's peak at around 7800rpm (that's around 1200rpm lower than the triumph). I haven't seen the triumph's dyno chart (I haven't been able to find one), but, I assume that the Ducati keeps making more torque even lower in the rev range. Maybe, maybe, you can argue that the triumph at some point makes more torque... at this point if we are talking a window between 2000 - 4000 rpm where the triumph makes a little bit more, then I say it doesn't actually have more usable power at all. Even then, if you were correct to suggest that the triumph has more usable power, a buying decision is not judged purely on power. The Ducati is just way more desirable.
@@Omar-kw5ui my observation was just from a test ride perspective. I found that the kind of roads I normally ride (Bucks B roads) the Ducati just felt lack lustre at lower speeds. It was no fun at all and almost frustrating. On the other hand the The Speed felt so at home on normal roads and a misile when I got the chance to open the throttle. The Ducati however is a far more stunning bike to look at… I think the Triple Engine, the cost and actually having a fuel gauge is finally what swung for me!
@@Omar-kw5ui £20k it should be
Had one over 3 years now & done 15k on it , had the first black one in Wales 🏴 , it’s suspension was shocking for me when first got but had it set for me very early on , have fitted race fit exhaust , taken rear seat cowl off and replaced with carbon fibre , removed rear foot pegs , love it now . Much lighter than factory ., the exhaust and cat weigh lots .. getting in to. Neutral easy from second gear , most try from first , they design bikes to hit neutral from second down so don’t hit on up shifts . Love the triple engine .. gear shift and quick shifter is awesome on mine , I’d say best gear box I’ve used & I’ve used plenty , my BMW is agricultural by comparison 👍.
Excellent review👍🏽 I’d really like to see you review a KTM 1290 if possible. I think that ktm beast definitely has sex appeal, although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Of course any of the naked MV Agusta line is the epitome of sex appeal. Your 890 r review was helpful in my decision in purchasing that crazy ktm machine. Thank you. Looking forward for your next posting. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Adam!! Yes the superduke r is coming up soon I am very interested in the latest variant!!
I love how you start every video with "yes." Fuck yea
Yes 😎
Nice bike, but just think it's lacking somthing, I personally think it needed a redesign over the street to give it a edge
I believe Triumph have held back on the design so they can throw out a face-lift model or two down the line with new colours too
“The gearbox felt like it was made of mashed potatoes” what does that mean, is that good or bad, I have no idea.
I will leave it to your imagination 😇
Lovely bike but of the 4 riding buddies I know who have owned 2 have rejected due to multiple faults, 1 no issues at all and 1 the anti freeze bottle cover flew off on one occasion and the fuel pipe wasn't crimped and it poured all over the bike mid ride with it being about 500 miles old. It would seem (I dont own one) it has a few teething issues
Interesting after that he bought the bmw s1000r. Obviously the better machine??
Let me ask you I am from the states I have seen several people having a lot of problems with this bike .Doesn't that make you nervous?
An amazing bike, bit pricey though.
just listen to yourself at the start of the video when you're talking about how compliant the suspension is,your voice is juddering as much as the rough ride!
The suspension is sporty and the road I was travelling on was bumpy. I select great routes to test a bike and I feel given how bumpy the road was the bike was handling it very well. I would be honest if I felt it was too harsh
Would of been better if you got on it......
Creates too many complaints
that frame is old and ugly i cant help it.. i prefer look of 765.
great review 👍
I eat the rs too bad no bikini fairing for it
There is, it's called the Speed Triple 1200 RR, and costs even more ...
@@xorbe2 I know but it's different I don't know if I like the single head light. I kinda meant more so if they have a bikini fairing for the rs with that headlight styling
You on WhatsApp ?
Ktm it is then ;)
Haha well...
@@BikesofRye 😉
I know you said that you think that the suspension is good and not too stiff on this bike .. but have you heard your voice in the first 4 minutes.. (especially the bit when your are talking about the suspension not being too stiff )..🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️.. it sounds like you’re shivering and your teeth are chattering 🤣🤣.. I’ve never heard you sound like this before ?? 👌👌.. it could be a clue about the suspension 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Haha honestly it's just sporty there was enough give in both front and rear for my weight. Those roads are rough so it is actually a fair test. The bike looks to track the road surface with what feels like great high speed compression damping. No doubt it could benefit from a setup though to rider weight and wants
@@BikesofRye 😁😁👌👌thank you for your reply .. can I ask you about your Street RS please .. have you altered your rear preload at all .. because in the user guide it says it’s not rider adjustable .?? I’m 5’9”..and 13.3 stone without kit !! I’ve just bought a new RS .. just running it in at mo .. your vids were very helpful in my deciding to buy this bike !!😁😁👌🤝🤝.thank you .Dean.