“The KKK Brought Us Toys” - Debate with Black Conservative
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2018
- Debate with Anthony Brian Logan about the state of the black community.
Date Streamed: 07/03/18
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Remember when they had seperate water fountains for people with good and bad credit
phish lord 10/10
hahahah
Don't forget when people with good credit forced people with bad credit to ride at the back of the bus or give up their seats.
SIR, I think you've proven your point
this guy is such an uncle tom, it hurts just listening to him
I survived a plane crash one time, but everyone else died. Why didn't they just survive as well? I don't get it.
Crobemeister SIR SIR SIR SIR I prove my point.
Maybe they should have chose better by picking a plane that wasn't going to crash. I prove my point.
BlasterMaster lmfao
Crobemeister I've been lied to my whole life.
Crobemeister I don't know, man. Personal choices.
>Grew up in the hood
>father owned land in west Virginia
pick one.
happyhappy85
I know this is old, but he grew up in Beckley, WV - where I live - and there’s no hood. There’s government housing, but no “hood” so to speak. 😆
Did you miss the part where he said in was raised by a single mom? He wasn't raised by his land owning father.
Lady Skeptic you can inherit land and be poor, not saying that’s the case, just possible
@@thanos2271 But if you did inherit land, you could sell it, right? And then you'd be less poor?
I'm just asking, I have no clue. I was born up in the South Bronx, and land ownership has always been way out of my pay grade. 😆
Mitch Connor
lol what? Try researching this dummy. Incredible level of idiocy here. Research HUD in particular.
WHAT IS PUBLIC HOUSING?
Public housing was established to provide decent and safe rental housing for eligible low-income families, the elderly, and persons with disabilities. Public housing comes in all sizes and types, from scattered SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES to HIGHRISE APARTMENTS for elderly families. There are approximately 1.2 million households living in public housing units, managed by some 3,300 HAs. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) administers Federal aid to local housing agencies (HAs) that manage the housing for low-income residents at rents they can afford. HUD furnishes technical and professional assistance in planning, developing and managing these developments.
WHO IS ELIGIBLE?
Public housing is limited to low-income families and individuals. An HA determines your eligibility based on: 1) annual gross income; 2) whether you qualify as elderly, a person with a disability, or as a family; and 3) U.S. citizenship or eligible immigration status. If you are eligible, the HA will check your references to make sure you and your family will be good tenants. HAs will deny admission to any applicant whose habits and practices may be expected to have a detrimental effect on other tenants or on the project's environment.
Yee good old days when Santa KKKlaus came and brought gifts to the black neighbourhood.
Directly delivered to your front yard. Very hot deal.
TurtlesInTheSky E-DUBBLE!
#SantaKKKlaus 🎅🎅🎅
😂😂😂
What? The KKK didn't bring you toys?
instead of whitehoods they have red and green....
Lmao. This fucking guy has no clue. "The black people were much better off before the civil Rights act" holy shit!!
Depends on what you mean on better, if you mean it's less efficent then sure, but I'd rather be less efficent and more moral then making all of Americans slaves and having the president become some sort of Totalitarian leader just so we can get better unemployment rates and massively better profits for the country
They only have me cut up sheets for a ghost costume 😢
"I'm not giving you an anecdote, I'm just telling you a personal story."
Lmao. "I'm not robbing you, I'm just forcibly depriving you of your possessions!"
Why do black people make bad decisions? Well, here's a huge list of socioeconomic explanations.
"Nope, none of those."
So, why then?
"I don't know"
Sooo, if it's *not* socioeconomic explanations... because he kept dismissing them.. then why?
"Individual choices"
Why are they making those choices?
"I don't know"
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Avenger just one step closer to the forbidden plane. 😅
SIR, I think you've proven your point.
Saying IDK is much more intelligent than formulating a conspiracy against black people that doesn't exist based on stats that can't be trusted or validated whatsoever. . . what a joke.
@@gamedrop3262 Your argument is invalid it proves nothing how about you actually debunk some points o wait you can't
Black culture
"You can read books and that's fine, but I'm tell you from my own experience"
Yeah, great, nice, that's about as good as my experience. Which is why we read books, because the experience of a wider selection of people is always going to be more valid than one person.
Shada For reference, 17:40
That is good. i will use it the next time I am pulling up rape statistics and a girl tries to say I am devaluing her experience.
Your experience is proof of your experience you fucking idiot, nothing else. It isn't proof of how society functions.
He was contradicting himself, saying that shit got exhaggerated by the media and shit. While not realising he was doing the same shit only in reverse, his parents might have lied to him to not discourage him in life.
its the classic, my grandma lived to 110 smoking ciggarettes and never got cancer "does smoking give you cancer?" I don't know but personally i know it definetley doesnt
Alternate title, "We wuz better as slaves"
Das right
@@iamnotinvolved1309 Das RIIIIIIIGHT
I believe I've proved my point * hasn't even remotely proved his point*
Also isn't it so funny how the people who constantly whine about 'identity politics' inevitably fall back on it in every debate, SAD
Abigail McKellar they wouldn’t know irony if it hit them in the face
@@trentirvin2008 you aren't allowed to be a Christian Conservative without holding policy positions and a world view that are in direct opposition to your own self interest and well being.
Poor, overweight, teen mom, highschool drop out, with clinical depression who is unemployed and has no health insurance proceeds to vote against welfare, foodstamps, family planning, free birth control, public school teacher raises, sex education, universal healthcare, and section 8 housing.
Then proceeds to vote for the right to own bump stocks, large magazine capacities, and open carry because freedom is everything.
Today I heard the words "the black community was way better off before the 1960's" and i don't want to live anymore
This guy is literally one IQ-Statistic away from being a full fledged race realist.
MajorMad1 one Misa away from being a slave
He is the most self hating black man I've seen in awhile.
@@DavidJohnson-dp4vv He sounded very well spoken and researched. From what i heard he was the one saying that black people can do well and should be expected to do so. He also brought personal experience to the table while your god sits alone in a computer room experiencing nothing while thinking he knows all. Good luck being a lemming sir.
Game Drop he also presented personal experiences as a way to invalidate all other black Americans, excused the kkk cuz they brought toys, and said black Americans were better off during times of segregation
Anthony Johnson was a black Angolan known for achieving wealth in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia. He was one of the first African American property owners and had his right to legally own a slave recognized by the Virginia courts.
SIR!
I know you have the books and all, but my grandfather received presents from the KKK therefore black people made bad choices, SIR!
Well, I gotta go. My plantation is calling for me, SIR!
Mohamad Taufiq Morshidi Point proven
SIR! I don't know why black people make worse decisions. It's not poverty, no. It's not generational wealth, no. It's not any of the effects of discrimination from slavery to the civil rights, or any of the more subtle racism today, no. It's absolutely nothing that would explain their decisions that's not genetic. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU THINK I'M A RACE REALIST? I NEVER SAID THAT, SIR.
SCREAMING
Sir, sir, here's my argument. I don't know.
Hapmaplapflapgap Even then, the development of a worse culture after slavery wouldn’t have been due to chance but due to concerted government efforts to squash black communities; thus, invariably leading to black American culture being worse. However this in itself is just a symptom and not the root cause of why black Americans made worse decisions as a whole. The cause of this culture is of course historical systemic oppression, but “sir, they just made bad choices”.
Tbh, I’m quite surprised he didn’t make the “hip-hop glorifying violence” argument.
Sir, this is how we debate
Yessuh Massa Suh
Sir, we debate by asking questions about one hyper-specific outlier, and draw our conclusions from that. Point proven.
No questions about why black people make bad choices though, sir. Not a racist, sir.
LOL I thought this was a compliment and not just a quote til I got there
SIR. I think I proved my point.
Next topic.
POINT. PROVEN.
@@herpderpmonkey point was proven... disproportionate numbers. Now if we more access like Destiny wants then we can get that population down to maybe 7% or 6% I this better for the black community
this guy went to the sargon school of interpreting data
very underrated comment LMAO
Read a study, give a 1-2 sentence explanation of why it's wrong by appealing to "common sense". Rinse and repeat.
"I'm black and he's not one of us." -anime avatar users
Daniel Yost Not kawaii enough
I want to like this comment over and over again!!!
Daniel Yost you're right because he makes smart decisions
Fr Brah
real shit
Destiny I know these debates are giving you cancer, but I need you to keep them coming.
He is sacrifising himself for the greater good.
CountBlacula destiny is cancer to society
@@solidj4032 Your mom was so lucky. She gave birth to her cancer, and now she's free of it.
solid j even when I didn’t agree with destiny on 5% of his views he was still a honest actor willing to change his mind when given new information and willing to take it into account if anyone is cancer its people like you that love being tribal
This comment... lmfao.
"You can read books and that's fine but here's my anecdote that you can't refute that I'm basing my whole argument off"
Mellow Mike I scrolled down to this comment right as he said the thing. Matrix confirmed.
Mc ride would agree
Black Conservatives aren't really speacial. Their just conservatives with a different shade.
Story & Spice
you're right they're all still the same shade of stupidity.
Disagree with me = stupid
me- Earth is round
you- Earth is flat
Yes you are stupid.
@@painexotic3757 who? The conservatives say that?
Special*
Sir, SIR! This is my anecdote, take it as F A C T ! ! !
Disproportionate number of abortion to births but let's go with Destiny's idea of easier access and get the population down to 8% maybe 7%
Am i the only one who laughs at how he says "Fact(s)"
@@boomersooner535poor people don't want to have children they can't afford, a large proportion of black Americans are poor, therefore they're more likely to seek abortion. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
In West Virginia born and raised! KKK brought us toys on Christmas day.
so his family has been helping the white supremacists for a long time?
lol this guy is 33? I thought he was in his 50s
I guess black really does crack
Glad I’m not the only one who thought that he was in his late 40’s early 50’s. When he said how old he was I literally had to pause the video because of how shocked and confused I was lol.
@@blastermaster5009 of course someone like you thinks he's lying
He might be lying, but its also the way he carries himself, he dresses and talks like a boomer
LMFAO, someone in the chat asked if Samuel L. Jackson studied this guy for his role in Django!
I thought it was funny that he had the same cadence as the black conservatives in the Key and Peele skit.
I thought the same thing lmao. I imagined him on the other side with the brown jacket and glasses and everything. Waiting for him to say "I am PISSED. I am ROYALLY.
PISSED."
The KKK brought him toys, but they brought the other kids nooses.
Am I the only one who felt he kept making the same not true argument
I made it out the hood so you can too
A few poor people get abortions so all poor people can get them
My family had it good during segregation so all blacks did
Then proceeds to say I can’t speak for individuals
If you actually grew up in the hood, you will see that alot of the problems continue on because people let them continue on. If you constantly expect less from people, they will expect less from themselves. It's not hard to break the cycle of poverty yet you people overexaggerate as if it's some hard feat that takes the government or some elite liberal to get involved. How to break the cycle of poverty? Take advantage of what you have and don't take on unnecessary burdens. Don't have kids you can't afford, don't have unprotected sex, take advantage of scholarships/grants/other types of donations, save money when you get the chance to put it towards your future, etc. I grew up in chicago and saw for myself the backwards mentality that blacks had (im black btw). The people I grew up with were irresponsible yet had the nerve to blame "the system" for their decisions.
PaiN ExoTiC the thing is it’s easy to say people excuse it when in actuality people are avidly protest bad decisions like selling drugs
Im not understanding what you're getting at.
PaiN ExoTiC no one wants these things to continue and they want to stop them the problem is people thinking letting the government that put them in that situation rectify it will make it happen even more
I'm sorry and don't mean to offend you but what you are saying makes no sense lol. It's like you're just throwing words together.
Wait, does he not know Credit Scores didn't start until the 80s? lol
It said something like 1950s and 1989
"My ancestry is from West virginia" BasedGod NOTears
Thinking Mouse doesn’t even acknowledge his African ancestry lmao
Most Europeans are not indigenous to the specific area in Europe they claim. So why do I have to claim something you guys don't?
Anthony Brian Logan Except ALL African Americans are not indigenous to West Virginia. You were being deliberately obtuse in ignoring the goal of his point. Most white people can clearly trace their roots to Italy or Germany, etc. Whereas black people (as long as you're not from the islands) can only really say they're from the south.
_Stop with the "most of x people" weasel words. It's just as bad as your "well I'm black so I can tell you how black people were treated" horrible talking points_
P.s- You cut him off the whole video after asking poor gatcha questions and going *I proved my point*, you should have tried to see where he came from instead of instantly shouting out the poor rhetorics you keep yourself repeating.
Would be happy to see you come back for a 2nd time Anthony. This wasn't really a huge disaster like a lot of people on here would make it out to be and its cool to see you come and talk about a lot of the points you want to make with him.
I find a lot of the discussion interesting and it'd be great to hear more about the issues you feel strongly about after reflecting on this one
Listen Mr. Logan, I'm black and a libertarian but I disagree with your opinions but I have to say it's fucked up what these people are saying to you.
As a black american you cannot trace back where you come from and you have all rights as an american so you should be allowed to claim the state to which you belong as you have no hope of claiming the igbo tribe or the Hausa people or whatever.
I don't get the points people are making against you here and think they are unfair. I do regard some of your points as "Uncle Tom" like. But I respectfully disagree and respect you as a brother who is doing something for himself and has dignity and intelligence no doubt.
Peace.
Destiny just needs a black friend to be there when he argues against black conservatives. Someone to just shutdown the 'You don't know my experiences!' BS.
Jamaal Curry stupid logic
Sounds pretty logical to me, if a black guy wants to try to use his anecdote to counter argument the anecdotes of literal millions of other African-Americans then try to block responses to it, only seems fair to have a present black person to swat that aside.
@@Lazerproof12 how abt we stop identity politics
@@bigglow8284 ooo reviving a 2 year old comment. Fun. How abt we stop bad idpol and worry about the idpol that actualy affects positive change. Sounds good.
@@bigglow8284 how about no because it’s important to moving are society forward. If your flat brain can’t comprehend the conversation or how it’s important then you should personally stay out of the conversation.
This "Black Conservative" really is delusional. That poor man....
"you can go and read books, thats fine." - cancer argument
West Virginia, mountain mamma, take me home, country roads
Demitrix Kkona
KKona 7
Toots and the Maytals did a cover where they replaced the lyric "West Virginia" with "west Jamaica" and it slaps
West Virginia is my ethnicity
*Hwest
"Why are black people making poor decisions"
"Personal Choice"
"Why are they making poor choices"
"I don't know"
Every one of Destiny's debates are just like this.
He didn't say I don't know, he said due to the welfare state.
@@thomasp3218 But what does that mean, welfare all but doesn't exist in America
SIR SIR SIR SIR SIR SIR SIR SIR
Saying "Sir" is 100 times better than what you hear from the mouths of people today. Manners are important. You wouldn't know.
Wow Destiny looks like me at my dad's funeral at some points... and I can't blame him really.
Sup Sap r.i.p
"I can't tell you why, my best answer is I don't know, but I know for certain you are wrong." Some Confused Black Guy.
There's nothing unreasonable about this statement, in general. This is, in fact, the exact answer I would give to a creationist who asked me how life originated. Now, I'm not saying that Destiny's position is analogous to a creationist here. Unlike the creationist, his claims don't fly in the face of several well-established scientific theories.
armpitpuncher Lol you can't say you know someone is wrong right after saying you don't know why because of your fee fees. Don't be an apologist for this bs logic. If you don't know don't say the other person is wrong. It's also not a good analogy what you're using because the origin of life is pretty common knowledge.
+dcon9995 - I don't know what fee fees are. Feelings? But you absolutely can say someone is wrong about a question without knowing the answer yourself. Fill a jar with a variety of randomly colored balls, and ask me how many red ones there, I won't be able to give you the answer. But if you tell me there are zero, and I can see at least one, then I can say I know you are wrong.
+109 - So where exactly is your disagreement with my statement?
It's an inherently worthless contrarian opinion that doesn't apply to this situation at all. Using it like it's a counter argument to the OP is retarded. i'm not really sure how you couldn't get that.
'You can read books and that's fine, but I'm tell you from my own experience'
Imagine saying that and still thinking you're on the facts over feelings side
Lol its almost he's saying that to please his viewers almost
My dad spent all our money on lottery tickets and now I'm a millionaire, all black people were born millionaires
The infuriating part about the abortion argument is that the best way to prevent them is better access to birth control and comprehensive sex education.
"It wasn't redlining or racism, it was bad credit. My grandparents had a house."
The KKK bought my Christmas presents last year I proved my point
In order to routinely make good decisions, you have to not only be properly informed/educated; but also encouraged. You have to be drilled on 'cause and effect', and get a realistic understanding of what your actions will likely lead to.
People don't get in the habit of making good decisions just because they want to, the exception to this is called "luck". This is anecdotal, but I've seen tons of instances where a terribly uninformed person does relatively well for himself, because of luck...but this is not the norm.
The statement that he made about "blacks not wanting to use condoms" is really disappointing. Especially because he thinks that the presence of welfare somehow incentivizes blacks (more than whites) to have unprotected sex; not only that, but it was his "go to".
Not the fact having sex with a condom on isn't as pleasurable.
Not the fact that many inexperienced young men think that you can just "pull out", and everything will be fine.
No acknowledgement made to the prevalence of women saying that their on the pill, when they're actually not...purposely trying to lock a man down. Or when women just honestly forget to take the damn thing.
There's a bunch of reasons that could explain it. Many of which are tied to environment, but this guy immediately goes to the popular conservative talking point -- the welfare state.
It's so frustrating to talk to someone who's this short-sighted. It's not a matter of him being lost 'in the weeds'. He doesn't even see the weeds, and he's talking about a complex problem. What a waste of time.
Can we make a little litmus test for perspective desitny debate opponents? The 'thinking anecdotal evidence is relevant to talking about the situations of millions of people' meme seems like it shouldn't come up as much as it seems to.
For some reason, Anecdotal Arguments are huge amongst the token crowd.
Roaming Millennial is guilty of this, as she likes to use her successful Chinese family as proof that Asians never got discriminated in the US and Canada.
oh but content needs to be entertaining :P
this isn't an academic setting, but I can understand your frustration.
Mohamad Taufiq Morshidi That's the usefulness of minority conservatives. Its what they offer to that community. They're around to affirm the racist whites comments and have someone to point at.
See:Look at my African American over there (trump)
Edit: Anthony I hope you read this and see how pathetic you are. You basically said the KKK weren't as bad as history says they are because your mom wasnt scared of them and gave her toys.
But data is the plural of anecdote!
prospective*
This man is so Uncle Tom'd it's scary
Don't you know slavery was consensual
"Clayton Bigsby Debates Destiny"
Title fixed.
Dang, you see how soft and submissive black conversatives are when talking to white people compared to their own people
"Black people were much better off before the 1960's." ... what? 🥴
I think he proved his point.
:^)
“Under slavery we had better house hold numbers.”
Well, no shit, they fucking bred us lol
I think I proven my point.
9111channel *proofen my point
Disproportionate numbers of abortion to birth but lets go with Destiny's idea and see if we an lower the population to 8% maybe 7% great idea
I made it 20 minutes lads I'm tapping out
Mellow Mike 😂😂😂😂so simple but so funny.
You got nothing to miss. This whole thing is about personal experiences.
this guy demands Destiny listen to his bullshit talking points but then keeps interrupting Destiny every time he makes a point, ignores the point being made, then makes a really unintelligent non sequitur
1937 Memorial Day Massacre
1937 Ponce Massacre
1923 Rosewood Massacre
1929Tulsa Massacre
1920 Ocoee Massacre
1919 Bogalusa Labor Massacre
1919 Elaine Massacre
1919 Red Summer in Chicago
1910 Slocum Massacre
1908 Springfield Massacre
1898 Wilmington Massacre
1896 Polk County Massacre
1874Vicksburg Massacre
1874 Barbour County Riot
1873 Colfax Massacre
1868 St. Bernard Parish
1868 Opelousas Massacre
1868 Camilla Massacre
1866 New Orleans Massacre
1866 Memphis Massacre
1864 Ebenezer creek Massacre
1863 New York City Draft Riots and Massacre
1979 Greensboro Massacre
1968 Orangeburg Massacre
1887 Thibodaux Massacre
1875 Clinton, Mississippi Massacre
Being a Black conservative like this pays well.
He seemed like he had a lot of answers as to why black people make poor decisions, but than copped out when he realized it would contradict pretty much everything he defended/denounced.
And I thought SomeBlackGuy defending Richard Spencer was bad.
Point proven my dude. Can't fight that logic.
If anyone can be a giga-Uncle Tom, here it is.
This guy so quick to play the "humble card of ignorance" when he gets backed into a corner but use his "lived experience" to dismiss other black people's "lived experience" as some liberal conspiracy.
How can you honestly think Redlining was about credit? You think the KKK lynched people with bad credit as well?
KKK should buy Toys R' Us lolz
oooooo i miss these debates.....btw typical right wing talking points are typical....
proto shutup
All talking points are the same. It doesent matter if it's the right or the left.
We of the black delegates don’t clam to know or accept this man as one of our own.
Seconded!
This guy has the same problems as Tokna. Yes it is possible for people to go out and vote under the proposed SC voter ID laws, and yes it is possible for individuals to make the right choices, but when restrictions happen and people don't have the same access to opportunities, the group as a whole will do that thing in lower numbers.
Desitny tried to bring up the point about people as a whole rather than the individual when making federal legislation but I think it could've been pushed a little harder. It's a pretty basic concept, analyzing people as a whole rather than individuals when making law for millions, but the people who he talks to don't seem to get it.
Why do people have kids when they know their kids wont have opportunities? Let's say that oppression was real and that blacks will ALWAYS be "oppressed", than why bring kids in the world when you know they will not have the same rights and opportunities? When you know they'll have a sub par standard of living? lol. Seems irrational.
PaiN ExoTiC well that's a retarded argument to make
Sounds pretty rational to me. It would be no different than a group of friends going to a cliff and each one taking turns to jump of a cliff then wondering why the person before them ended up dead, despite seeing the warnings beforehand that they'll end up dead by jumping off the cliff. #DERP. Common sense 101
This is such a teenage way to look at choices... How old are you?
-almost half of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. So these people aren't always choosing to have childern. BUT that's not really the point.
Regardless of what you think people should do, what you don't understand is that this is the reality. People, as a whole, don't make choices with every consequence in mind. So now that we know that fact, why would the government make policy pretending that things are how they are in this fantisy land?
It's all good and well for you as an individual to hope another individual makes the right decision. But, as a policy maker for millions, it's irresponsible to pretend like the world doesn't work like it clearly is working for those millions.
When all else fails, ad hominems!
*"-almost half of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. So these people aren't always choosing to have childern. BUT that's not really the point"*
I know this. All this says is that alot of people are irresponsible. What is your point?
*"Regardless of what you think people should do, what you don't understand is that this is the reality. People, as a whole, don't make choices with every consequence in mind. So now that we know that fact, why would the government make policy pretending that things are how they are in this fantisy land?"*
I guess this means that anyone shouldn't be held accountable for any of their actions. By this logic, I could use it to justify ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. I could say that murderers should be allowed to kill because based on their reality, murder isn't wrong, and that they didn't consider the consequences before doing so. The government should make policies making murder amoral. Sorry, sir, but your logic falls short :) Ps, it's fantasy*
*"It's all good and well for you as an individual to hope another individual makes the right decision. But, as a policy maker for millions, it's irresponsible to pretend like the world doesn't work like it clearly is working for those millions."*
I'm not "hoping" anything. I just believe that people should be held accountable for their actions. That's the difference between me and you. I allow people to make mistakes AND to face the negative consequences of those mistakes. I don't baby people. I'm an adult and I have no accountability nor responsibility for another adult. If someone chooses to have kids without being mentally and financially stable, they should suffer for it. I was born relatively "poor" yet I chose not to have kids because I used this pink, squishy thing in my head called a "brain" to come to the logical conclusion that I was not ready for a child in my dire situation.
Sir! Sir! Master!...i mean Sir!
Bill this comment is perfect
This guy was absolutely confounded by the idea that these issues are caused by a multitude of complex things.
Like all conservative retards. They think everything is determined by pure individual choice divorced from socioeconomic reality.
Cool thing he mentioned New York instead of any of the states in which you have to travel to the capital/largest city to get one. I am pretty sure it was a completely random example.
His grandmother told him that the KKK were fairly generous and were not as bad as people paint them to be.... I’m honestly confused. If someone knows what he meant, please let me know.
Reject liberal indoctrination. That MLK dude you heard about? He was just trolling. The Civil Rights movement was just Soviet fake news. How do I know? Muh grandmother told me.
Reject liberal indoctrination. That MLK dude you heard about? He was just trolling. The Civil Rights movement was just Soviet fake news. How do I know? Muh grandmother told me.
I'm just guessing here, but he didn't say how old he was at the time. Maybe he was very little, four or five? Maybe his grandmother didn't want to scare him? Maybe when he asked her who the strange people were, maybe she made that up to reassure him?
--"It's okay, they're just bringing us presents."
I've seen people say things like this to reassure their kids. 🤷🏾♀️
The mental gymnastics needed to justify removing the minimum wage because racism is peak conservatism.
*PEAK UNCLE-TOM MENTALITY*
This fool literally said minimum wage ruined employment for black people in the 1940s because now they couldn't be paid less by their white employers. So maybe if we get rid of that today, blacks can go back to work... where they can be paid less by their employers for being black. But at least they'll be employed, right!? And in the same breath he downplays slavery.
We also couldn't get paid less by black employers who had less money because then that would become illegal.
Anthony Brian Logan A business that can't afford to pay above x number of employees shouldn't have employees above x. That's basic ethical business. How many black employers do you think there were in the 40s in comparison to white anyway, got the numbers on that my guy? And if black employers had less money than white employers, that means white employers were offering better jobs, they had more resources, and they could increase their profits even more by hiring blacks, hispanics, asians, and women that they didn't have to pay a fair and consistent wage. Thus allowing white businesses to gain even more of a foothold on the economy over black businesses. The what aboutism game doesn't work in this situation, it just proves how wonky your logic is.
Anthony Brian Logan What does discriminating against the poor have to do with anything? Not having enough money to hire more people isn't discrimination. It's capitalism.
Wrong dude, the second great boom of immigration from Europe took place much earlier than the 40s. You're talking about whites that were bare minimum on their second generation, if not third or fourth since people had children younger back in the day. So you can toss that out right here in the recycling bin for intellectual dishonesty.
I didn't ask if there were plenty of black owned businesses, I asked how many there were in relation to white businesses and furthermore how many were as successful as the white businesses that had working conditions up to snuff with white businesses. There being plenty of black owned businesses means little when they're still few and far between or if they don't provide the opportunity to build wealth on the same scale as white businesses.
The Asian immigrants Destiny was talking about had their huge immigration boom in the 80s. Unlike the Europeans you're talking about from the early 1900s who came to America broke as hell, we're talking about a ton of highly skilled and educated immigrants from all over Asia entering a much more technologically developed America. And to this day Asians are second only to Hispanics in terms of who immigrates here, and the Hispanic rate is falling (especially from Mexico) while the Asian rate is rising.
But lets get back on track here because now we're not talking about your wonky logic on minimum wage anymore. You're still just trying to weasel your way out of confronting that idea because you're smart enough to know that after hearing that back, it doesn't cut the mustard.
PaiN ExoTiC
No it's "say uncle tom shit=uncle tom." I'm not gonna call you an uncle tom if you think my favorite movie is shit. I'm not gonna call you an uncle tom for being a black conservative. I'm gonna call you an uncle tom if you say uncle tom shit like it's better for black people to be employed than for them to be employed and paid fairly. That sounds like some shit Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django would say.
Sir, Sir SIR!
"i think i proo my point"
"No, actually yo-"
"i think i proo my point tho"
Racist
...you probably shouldn't tell your opponent they can interrupt you. I don't know, it just feels like this guy talked way more than he listened.
He obviously just wanted to promote himself. He's one of these horrible enablers who make money off explaining racists why it's okay to be racist. He could call himself 'RedPillMaleBlack' or 'Classical Liberal Logan' to really wave the flag. The fact that he stopped the conversation the moment Destiny cornered him - and he wouldn't have looked cool to his alt-right fanbase, anymore - is a good indication.
These traitors to sanity might be a bigger problem than Alex Jones, FoxNews or Breitbart. They confirm the lies.
What these Milos, Tila Tequilas, Dave Rubins, Candace Owens' and so on don't get, though, is that there will come a time after the alt-right is trendy. And what then? Where will they go then? Do they think their "friends" will like them just the way they are?
They shapeshif again just like when Rubin left tyt
14:55 for the kkk brought us toys
I'm black and he's not one of us jsyk
Num1MangaFreak Nah nigga. General stupidity=/=selling out your race
Num1MangaFreak hopefully not for long xD
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Daniel Yost lol it's just a prank chill who takes things seriously online 😂🤣
mcsportslover omegalul
Destiny really got sir-ed in this debate.
When you get rekt to the point where you don't even understand the arguments of your opponent, just say "I think I've proven my point, let's move on to the next one".
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Prelude
0:22 “What’s your issue with the video that I did?”
1:39 Do people have responsibility for their own actions?
5:45 Abortion
12:39 Redlining was based on credit?
14:38 “The KKK brought toys and food to my grandmother’s community.”
18:26 Black unemployment caused by minimum wage laws?
22:30 Why have black families continued to face problems after Jim Crow?
27:23 Why doesn’t the asian community face the same problems as the black community?
31:30 African Americans vs Nigerian immigrants
34:36 Why do black people make worse choices than white people?
42:04 “If we don’t figure out the why, how do we ever fix the problem?”
44:19 Post-debate
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"The KKK would bring us food and toys during Christmas time." Oh this is too good
U N C L E T O M
"The facts are"
Ignored, uninspected, disregarded?
Shada, yeah that guy on destiny stream really doesn't understand facts at all, he just Ignored and disregarded all of destiny socioeconomic explanations but he just says no my life was different and den acting like that a whole black community.
Clayton Bigsby got destroyed in this debate.
I didn't think this video was real...
I’m loving your return to political debates. So much better and productive then debating with Tonka Trucks or Warski
Otha Bojangles This was literally Tonka without the swearing
Christopher Alford and without the anger ,harassment and doxxing
Dude keeps saying "reality" and "facts" but I'm positive he doesn't know what those words mean. AMAZIN
uncle ruckus debates destiny
White Heaven
How are YOU going to TELL ME about how my anecdotes don't apply broadly to well documented history to contrary?!
41:50 "no one put a gun to our head and made us into single-parent households." ....except that's what the drug war did? LITERALLY guns put to people's heads and ripping families apart?
73% out of wedlock birth rate has nothing to do with the war on drugs. If a person is locked up, how do they produce a baby?
@@AnthonyBrianLogan lmao I wonder if a lot of young black men being incarcerated has any effect on the single motherhood rate? Hmm....
HMMMM...
Destiny held back on this guy so hard. He had such terrible points that destiny could’ve destroyed him on
This reminds me way to much of Dave Chapelles 'Black white supremacist' sketch
Wow....can somebody please tell this guy that there are other channels than FOX...Like I almost feel bad for him
Also remember in 1940 there was this thing called WW2. Many african americans began to move up north to work in the factories to take the spots of people who went off to war. That or they were off to war themselves.
“How did you manage to get Samuel L Jackson’s fictional character from Django Unchained?”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Loved the conversation. Thanks for having the talks no one else is willing to have
(from his chat) _"Oprah is rich, so no racism."_
Yeah... He watches -Bill O'Reilly- Tucker Carlson.
Lol that one guy in the chat who said "Destiny got BLACKED in this debate". Fucking hilarious
His minimum wage point is literally arguing for racism 😂
This was the most stressful debate. "Point proven"
I don't think Anthony Brian Logan understand that generational thing. What happened in the past affects the present.
"This is how you have a debate."
I'm so fucking mad right now. lol
LOGAN: "It's the Welfare incentive, that's part of why blacks started making all these bad choices"
Oh so you're suggesting that the incentive caused black people to make different decisions? So you're suggesting that certain societal incentives will help influence the decisions a person makes? So you're suggesting that the environment a person is in will influence their choices? ALMOST LIKE NOT EVERYTHING IS JUST "INDIVIDUAL CHOICE"
Conservatives really struggle to understand the difference between personal anecdotes and data.