A Debate on White and Black Culture with a Viewer
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"There are things that I enjoy from black culture. I enjoy the nba for instance."
Hoo boy this is gonna be a good one!
OhManOhJeez
The NBA and basketball is American not African American. Black Americans make up majority of the players but it’s an American sport and business. This shows you that he doesn’t see black Americans as Americans.
I think he knows...
they ruined basketball make it white again
@Fuck_life_and_Everyone_Else _ Being sarcastic.
@Fuck_life_and_Everyone_Else _ I'm not white. so I didn't get it right away.
Firstly, as a South African... South Africa has never been majority White
"I Punch you in the gut"
Thats for my tv bru
It is hard to say if you are right, when the whites first arrived to south africa there was alot of completely uninhabited land.
@@turdeater8548 they arrived in the western cape first, even then there where khoi who the white enslaved and raped till the class of 'cape coloured' came about.
That is not really settled by historians, they know they had some herds there tho. But even if true, it would just mean the khoi was first, whites 2nd and bantu (modern day black south africans) 3rd.
@@turdeater8548 whites definitely didn't get to the northern parts of natal before the Zulu. They also didn't get to limpopo, mpumalanga and the northern parts of the Eastern cape before other nguni and black people. Plus drawing the line between nguni and khoisan is hard regarding the fact that there was an intermingling between the two, that's where Xhosa, Zulu, SiSwati and ndebele get their cliques from the khoi.
guys he has a black friend it's fine
really dude... ure a bozo. Ure literally virtue signalling here... its just popular now.
He's not racist, he loves chicken.
Naz K What? You clearly have no idea what virtue signaling is, or at least how people use it. He’s not saying that to show everybody how good of a person he is, he’s saying it because the moron in the video made shitty arguments.
Everyone knows, if you have one black friend, it’s intrinsically impossible to hold racist views.
Naz K you forgot the i at the end of Naz.
Edit: your to you
"I love Trump."
"I'm not a fan of Trump."
U wot m8?
Bruv I luv trump cause he white
It's strictly sexual for him.
Never in the history of south africa were whites the majority, the cape town natives have outnumbered the whites in the early days by far prior to the bantu expansion. I guess you have to consider the Khoisan "white" for that to work.
I almost laughed my ass off when I heard that.
“Neocons are dead politically”
“Neocons are still a huge part of Washington”
Literally seconds apart loooool
Lmao "I'm a conservative. I like small government. But also eugenics". Hahahahahhahahahahahaha. How do you have small government AND eugenics lmao
That sounds EXACTLY like the communist argument. The benevolent dictator.
What communist argument?
Kayvahn it’s easy! The government doesn’t bother me and those I like, and just sweeps everyone else under the doormat duh
@@TheZatchmo what?
corporate eugenics
It's amazing how racist ideology falls apart if exposed to even preliminary examination.
Most of their 'science' is just as fucked up. Then they demand a platform and whine about 'safe spaces' and 'echo chambers'. Science is not a fucking echo chamber. David Irving, the holocaust denier, did nothing but bitch that no one would 'debate' him, and when his arguments were ripped apart during his libel trial, all he did was go for ad hominem attacks against everyone.
And then people like 'race realists' who have been butchering facts and studies that other people made for over 150 years, and flat-earthers and creationists think that their ideas are as valid as evolution... fuck them. They can say whatever they want, but all bets are off the moment these people want to spread their poison to others. In a free and open marketplace of ideas, the bad ideas are campaigned against the same way a dangerous product or fraudulent service is. They have no right to no opposition.
You think Destiny would win a debate over Jared Taylor?
McCbobbish so fucking true. Your name makes my brain hurt though.
*_SHOOTER IS 27 YEAR OLD DEVIN KELLEY. WHITE MALE TRUMP VOTER! RADICAL ALT RIGHT TERRORISM!_*
Colin Barry I know :( I was a fool.
This guy literally just has /pol/ statistics saved
GabeTheApe “No New York Times. I don’t want fake news.” 🙄🙄🙄
@neurotransmitter "informed"
yet you didn't debunk any of them
@@nnggghhaa3709 he didn't need to. They were debunked in the video.
U should probably put statistics under (“”) bcuz there grossly misused
Why do people like this cry about PC culture but they hate being called out for what they really are?
Ra Sa they don't like being called out
race realism is just racism with better PR. they're all in denial, so when you take their beliefs to their ultimate conclusion, racism, they get triggered and play the victim card. Lauren Southern's dog whistling and JonTron's "hurr durr stop cornering me" are great examples of this
To be fair they are right most of the time. PC culture is completely out of hand. You have the left pushing false narratives of white supremacy and claiming to be anti-racist, but will tell you that you can't be racist to white folks. The only socially accepted form of racism is against whites. Too much evidence to ignore.
@@Nytephyre
No.
@S J. Is cultural approriation a thing? Is white guilt? Race bating?
I am glad people are openly debating this, so that their false ideology can be exposed and more people can point out this is what is wrong.
You can't change everyone. But if you can change the people who are on the fence to your side. That is great. Even if you change 1 person's mind, that is still 1 person who is on your side who wasn't there before.
Idk GameMaps I really like this mindset of debating for the people in the middle. I really hope more people apply this thinking whenever they see someone spewing incorrect and racist bullshit. The more people argue against white nationalist the more their position diminishes.
OmenOfWar I'm sure Destiny has tried to get them on stream but I doubt big names white nationalists would want to give Destiny the free publicity after the Jontron debate.
This is pretty simple. European culture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> African culture. Little to debate here to be honest.
WE WUZ KANGZ
This guy strikes me as someone with exceptionally strong opinions about things he only understands by absorbing secondary or tertiary sources' opinions.
Welcome to 2018, where everybody's news and information comes from unregulated algorithms with the sole purpose of confirming your bias!
DankWarMouse I have a simpler solution for this one, he’s racist.
tbf the vast majority of people do that. i don't see many people actually checking their sources
Well I think in his head they sound great until he has to speak out loud to somebody about it..
Yeah, secondary sources are where most of us get our information from genius. Unless you're somehow an eyewitness to every breaking event
Nba and sports is black culture.... Lololololol
Yeah, because no other culture ever had sports. No siree!
Hotshotter3000
No, because black people didn't create nba and it's not what most black people do either way
I'm surprised he didn't cite that basketball was invented by a Canadian-American physician
invention has little to do whether something can be part of a ethnic culture, destiny tries to create an evil narrative for why this guy was so interested in different cultures. Attacking someones motivation for wanting to learn more about a specific topic does not change the actual fact that there are distinct cultures.
Basketball was invented by a white canadian and football was invented by a white people too!!
This feels like jontron V.2
At least this guy is way more honest than that half Iranian prick jontron!!! Although this guy is very insecure about brown people.
@@Jew-Gi-Oh_419 i remember seeing you say some dumb shit under "someblackguys" comment section. Lmao I'm still waiting for you to respond.
@@Jew-Gi-Oh_419 you just seem a bit angwy about something
One of the bleakest moments in American History was the period between 1929 to 1939. I'm referencing The Great Depression. At that the time the country was almost around 90% white , but that didn't stop white people from plunging other white people into abject poverty where they were starving , dying , and even committing suicide en masse just to relieve themselves from their horrible lives. These racists would literally advocate for a country full of starving whites before they ever claim that maybe having an ethnostate really wouldn't improve the lives of every single white person if we don't focus on what really makes people's lives better.
Then you are objectively insane, because there is no objectivity in such a statement. Not even a shred. What a deluded idiot.
Trent Pan Subjectivity is a product of objectivity no? So it seems like to have a opinion that's based on fact, then you'd probably have to justify your subjective reasoning with an objective fact or statistic, no?
Who said an ethnostate would improve the lives of all White people? lol. And who wants an ethnostate? I think they want a country that existed everywhere on earth pre 1960s, lol.
iammrawesomesauce
That's called cherry picking evidence like Sargon and his one piece of statistic that convinced him marriage increases your income.
John Dennis that was exactly the point being made.
That awkward moment when non of the facts backs up what he's saying.
implying that our neighboring countries is even remotly a threat to anyone ever.
Trent Pan good job buddy. You used FACTS & LOGIC
This sounds like an angry kid with a fair bit of hate in his heart. I hope he finds a calling that takes his mind off this ideological, rat in a cage, cyclical BS.
They very rarely do. This type of person usually stays like this until death unfortunately.
@Philip Marc i think destiny was just unequipped to demolish this guy. Vaush with his sociology degree could've pulverized this guy much better, regardless of political stance i think this /pol/-tard is making really bad points.
Oh hey, jontron came back
I dislike country music and NASCAR, guess I'm not American
:o
Nah, you just have better taste than most Hicks.
You god damn Commie!
@@jayt7178 nice sarcasm my dude!
20:28 The Soviet Union really went left cuz all of their hispanic immigration!!
dontknow dontcare Just say Jews. Don’t be an antisemite and a coward
Scandinavia is too l i b e r a l cause of all the nonwhites!
The soviet union, gulaged or genocided any demographic or ethnicity they didnt like.
Thor M the demographic was land owners. Your comment is irrelevant
@@leejay1101 And christians, and jews, and cossacks, and political opponents, and academia. The only difference between soviet and nazi germany. Was the soviet had a much broader approch to undesierables.
too many minorities at my waterpark dude
South park
The viewer sounds like if Ben Shapiro was a 17 year old white nationalist
Wait, you mean he isn’t?
@@2GuitarsPlay Ben shapiro isn't white
@@mikeobama69 lol jews are black then?
Gtfo nazi
@Stealth They're white as fuck...
Ben Shapiro is white lmao
*Every one of his 10 second pauses*
"How can I convey my honest opinion without sounding blatantly and undeniably racist?"
Wait, he's trying to cover it up?
Did this guy (not Destiny) just say Whites were the majority in South Africa for a very long time? What history books has this clown been reading from? I can't believe Destiny didn't even pick up on that?
Destiny has a huge blind spot when it comes to history.
That was a debate rabbit hole. A blown up stat based off of British colonial impacts. There were some areas where that was true.
@@JoeDirtisawsome *Americans its not destinys fault
@@JoeDirtisawsome and to go even further he has gone and said he will just not challenge history based statements from people usually his chat just does the work instead.
But he loves NBA and rap so he ain't racist
Tardulv NBA and rap has to do with other race XD
Tardulv “lol I have a black friend I’m not racist “ LOL that got me dead
jchc VV bruh lmaoooo 😂
Lmao white people love shit they stole from black people.
@jchc VV i dont hate russians i love gulag slop! Lol
This debate turned out to be a case study for implicit bias.
i recoil everytime i see him commenting on videos too if i had to imagine what a bugman looked like id imagine pascal being the dictionary image next to it
Pascal Leroux I agree and I think you look okay
NeoPhones5 he really is XD
Maybe more confirmation bias, and cognitive dissonance
TLDW "I want everyone around me to be white!!!"
"Yeah but why?!"
"Uh ...I ... Let me look up... Uh I don't know!!"
😂
I love Seinfeld, Woody Allen and I speak Hebrew. But then I saw a Jewish man working at a bank and now I want a final solution to the Jewish question.
PS: Centrist BTW
You got me bruh
Shut up, everyone knows Destiny is the real centrist here.
MOHD from AV CLUB is that you
Whats the jewish question? I have never heard of this before.
@@trescohen8232 A phrase Nazis used in WWII to refer to the problem of what to do with the Jews that they wanted gone from their country. The 'Final Solution' to the 'Jewish Question' was to send them to death camps.
“The Blacks” needs to stop
John Horton you can tell immediately where someone gets their info from when they refer to black people as “blacks” or “the blacks”.
@@audreyalbritton1435
You can almost smell their urgency to say the n word.
@@loneranger7271 You People??????????????????????????????????????????
@@narto292495 "The whites" too then, don't expect "people" added everytime. U people make big deal of anything.
I'm starting to hate the word 'culture', it seems like a way to express your hate for another race without being racist.
Right of Left funny how when white nationalist talk about culture they aren't talking about throwing gays off buildings, but about any other culture that isn't white.
Here's a way we can figure this out. Message this dude in the video, ask him "Do you think the communism in Russia was good?" See if he likes shitty culture when white people do it (He won't).
The way you're looking at this is so unfair and basically fallacious. If someone names a bunch of cultures they don't like, if none of those cultures are majority white people then the person must just be racist and only like white people? That's not fair at all. If someone prefers a culture where gays don't get thrown off buildings, that makes sense. That's a fair argument. Assuming someone doesn't like a culture where gays get thrown off buildings only because the culture is full of non-white people is beyond fallacy.
How is someone supposed to debate this fairly without everyone dismissing their valid points because they just assume they're racist?
Right of Left
1) The problem is that he never once mentions throwing gay people off of rooftops, he mentions Thailand culture, and Mexican culture. Neither of them throw people off of roofs.
2) Saying Muslims throw people off of rooftops is part of their culture is odd, since they don't seem to do that once they migrate to another country.
3) This kid was obviously racist, the race of the people moving in is what bothered him the most.
The way you are framing this is so dishonest, this entire video this kid was just bitching and complain that their are too many brown people in the country.
I just realized how much I wrote my bad
Right of Left
1) You brought up how the cartel run Mexico, and how 12 years is the age of consent and that the prisons have little to no guards. But all of that is pointless to what I ask. I asked how is their culture bad, not their laws.
a) Day of the Dead
b) Cinco de Mayo
c) Benito Jusrez Day
d) Independence Day
e) Their music, food, lifestyle
2) Their is no reliable source that claims that the acid attacks are due to Muslims. Your whole argument is that if you have to many of them than they cant coincide in the country with the natives, do you have any actual proof of this or is that just how you feel.
3) I love how you focused on the "Spade a Spade" part and completely ignored what I said. But don't worry i'll say it again.
A racist would be defined as someone who puts their own race over others, who judges based on their race, and/or dislikes others because of their race. You can be nice to black people and still be racist towards them (Some Klans Men had black friends, doesn't make them any less racist).
You are claiming he is not racist, I am claiming he is, and I have come to that conclusion due to the things he has said in the video.
'You have to ask black people'... Full Sargon full circle
I'm suicidaly empathetic to destinies suffering during this stream
Do you think Japanese people give a shit about pro-gamers debating poltards?
Does China give their manbabies emotional support because they jump into wells of autism?
wtf are u going on about
Full Metal Snowflake
1. Why is this relevant
2. No they don't unless they are born from a rich family, having the parents wish that their grandson can retrieve what was lost.
aw dude I was just riffing on the suicidally empathetic white people meme
cmon guys, tell me it was funny
Wow, being incorrect and lying are the same thing. That is one hell of a hill to die on.
That’s not correct, you can be incorrect and still feel as if you are telling the truth.
@@deltafx9462 that’s what my comment is saying.
@@dominic9983 my apologies.
I ain't gay but no hate at all for those who are
i knew his whole point the moment i heard his voice
"Why didn't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps?"
No you didn't
@@cocaineanddunhills4801 yes they did
FUCKING RIGHT?!
“What facts and polling data do you have that indicate that American people wanted the country to stay majority white at the time?”
Dead silence for about 20 seconds. I expected nothing less from the guy.
The name you entered was invalid Not everyone gives a shit about the color of someone’s skin. I think it’s completely normal to be willing to allow people of other backgrounds to move into your neighborhood, and with how immigration has changed in America, so did they.
As far as I know, humanity has yet to develop time traveling psychics, so how are you confident they’re on your side of the fence here?
The name you entered was invalid You’re free to tell yourself anything you want to make yourself feel better about how you feel about the “others”, this is still America.
I don’t think he was implying there are not differences between races, just that the differences between races are aesthetic. Culture, as far as we know, isn’t shaped by genetics
Cody Goble Exactly, culture is dictated by much more important shit than, if his skin is the same as mine.
The name you entered was invalid Your family and neighbors are two strong factors that will develop culture.
If you put a black boy in a rich family, in a well off neighborhood, that child will be nothing like a black child born and raised in the ghetto.
What they like and value will be coming different. How they interact with society in general will not be the same.
It's really confusing when all throughout this debate, this guy was basically chalking up his hatred of poc to "being in favor of small government and traditional American belief systems about whiteness". Like he keeps bringing up "THERE ARE MORE BROWN PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AND LESS WHITE PEOPLE WHICH IS MAKING IT MORE LEFT". Yes, that generally happens. The constitution does not stop non-white people from immigrating and becoming a US citizen so therefore you can't stop that, it's gonna happen. It really pissed me off when he basically said "my views are getting less and less represented because all of these minorities are here in MY country". Like somehow because they're brown means that their opinions don't matter as much as his white opinion and that it's not their REAL country because they're not white. His whole argument is based on misguided internal hatred towards poc and him not realizing that white people aren't the only TRUE Americans. ALSO I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THE "I love black people. I listen to rap and I love the NBA" LMAO he's too much😂😂😂
shampain But, does he have a black Jesus picture hanging in his living room?
EsotericOccultist white savior compleeeeeeeex lol
Well if that is happening, he has the right to voice his opinion on it, and to try to defend the values he is for, since he is also an US citizen, right?
Henrique Oliveira His opinion as a US citizen should not trump over someone else's opinions as a US citizen. The whole point is this guys believes that white people are the "true" Americans and brown people having opinions are only to further their racial agenda. He does not see white people and brown people as equal, and puts white peoples feelings and validity over brown people's feelings because he is correlating being American with having light skin.
What's ironic is that the Republicans and conservatives missed a huge opportunity with hispanics. As a group, hispanics are more religious, more socially conservative. Racist Republican rhetoric and policy has driven them to the Democratic Party.
The election of Trump has probably lost the hispanic vote for a generation.
Twerking.
Twerkin' 🤣 he really said that
BRAZIL IS RIGHT LEANING GEN. THEY'VE HAD FASCISTS IN POWER RECENTLY! WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS DUDE?
That's one way the US may be turning into Brazil... we've both recently elected fascists.
The cringe in this is too damn high.
This cringe comment hits its right. This was the opposite of communication. A little more it would be comedy.
6:17 “what do you do? (For work)” “uh that’s not important”
This dude definitely works fast food
my guess was unemployed
😂
Not even five minutes in and he's already praising China for engaging in eugenics. This is gonna be a bumpy ride.
"Why does ethnicity matter so much to you?"
"Because I'm racist."
Ok. Begin debating.
Speaking as an English person, 200 years ago it would've been impossible to move to Germany. Because it didn't exist. Also, if the homogeneity of 'white culture' was so complete could someone please explain wtf Napoleon was doing?
Exactly also what the fuck was Hitler doing!?
Exactly 🤦♂️ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
This argument that America was 90% "white" pre-1960's and therefore its success is attributed to its cultural homogeneity is so ignorant and simplistic. I suggest they take a basic American history class or two, or read The American Promise, a related textbook that outlines how different groups actually contributed and the ways they were treated.
Also, he cites Los Angeles 50-60-70 year ago as a model white city. Clearly he didn't speak to any African Americans around there at the time.
These guys never know history they don't care too.
@@nicolaredman8295 you have to ignore history to spew racist bs
Lol when America was almost entirely white the civil war, great depression, and slavery happened under their watch.
Race and culture arent the same thing.
wtf this dude is correlating whiteness with success but says it has nothing to do with race.
edit: he continued to become more racist lol
edit2: CRINGE AT 36:00 WHY GOD THIS HURTS TO LISTEN TO
I'm suiciably empathetic to your pain.
He gets even more racist after 40:00
Trent Pan in other words you're a racist imbecile too
Trent Pan i just stumbled upon this guy's channel.
And nope. Sorry. If you agree with the guy u are rscist as fuck.
Lol when destiny said stay safe he knew damn well he’s gonna get jump XD
I love how this guy literally REEEEEEEEEES everytime Destiny literally repeats back what he says
I love when ppl bring up east LA lmao
The entirety of California used to be Mexico. Mexicans were the majority of Los Angeles until white ppl flooded the area in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Populations and demographics change w time, get used to it.
Its hilarious to me these guya always talk about how its so good to preserve culture, yet this land was stolen from Native Americans and their history was not preseved but destroyed and forgotten to the point that white nationalists think this is "their country."
This guy is letting his unchecked paranoia and fear of the "other" cloud his judgment.
@- This is such an asinine comment. I'm glad people like you are scared though. I hope you live a life paralysed by fear, missing all sorts of amazing opportunities because you're afraid of nothing.
@- The funniest thing about this is that you, for what I'm sure are smooth brain reasons, actually think that diversity is a bad thing. It isn't. Diversity in and of itself is good. Yo be able to take influence from multiple sources as opposed to a single one allows for a person to experience more and learn more about the world as well as other people. Thus being able to pass said knowledge/skills down and allow others to become more knowledgeable. That's the super simple version.
You're European, as am I.
It's not going to be incredibly hard to imagine more people from all over the world moving in and out of Europe, having more kids of all types of racial background and raising them as time goes by. That's just a fact of life. People have travelled around and settled/built communities for so long. You're not as "far away" as you think. Black People among other People of Colour have been active parts of European communities for an extremely long time. Our appearing on streets isn't new or unheard of.
It's not even you that I hate. It's moreso what it is people like you do. They make things so much harder for everyone else on a level that most people like yourself wouldn't understand. There's a reason people usually grow out of their edgy phases where they say things like what you said in response to the OP.
@̐ Don't worry your area is going to change too :)
"I don't understand birth control, I'm not a female"
"Why do we have to pay for birth control and not just condoms?"
hhhhhhhhhhhh I love when men are experts on how women need to better themselves and stop having unplanned kids but then admit they don't understand birth control
Donkerz what’s hypocritical about having sex with unmarried women but not wanting to pay for their birth control...?
You Are Because they look down on people who have sex or children out of wedlock. Let’s not play these games.
I'm a black man. I grew up in a low-income black neighborhood. Let me tell you that it is, in fact, seen as a problem when a black girl has too many children, especially at a young age. I just had a talk with my mom a couple days ago about this girl I went to high school with (i graduated about 5 years ago) who has 5 kids already. That's a shame - and where d9es she live? In a rundown ghetto.
Same here. I hate the fact that some White people think we praise women for having multiple baby daddys & collecting welfare checks. Smh.
His assumptions are what happens when people correlate poverty with lack of morality.
@@HelloPeopleHii The state do, by sending welfare checks.
5 kids already? Wtf!
"I also have facts and polling data [to support the claim that most people at the time wanted to keep a majority white country]"
"What facts and polling data do you have...?"
13 SECONDS OF SILENCE
"You think it's racist to want to keep a majority white country?"
that was too good
I think that is its actually really sad that people un-ironically exist and believe this, like how can you think that black people have problems - acknowledge those issues and then after empathising with them and then say "whelp its not my problem we should just let them figure it out low IQ huh if they wanted to they could make it."
like what the fuck...
oh and big racial memes at the beginning when he was talking about the skin colour of the voters LUL
Trent Pan he did actually “ Mexicans are life long democrats”
I... really don't think the Caucasian race is diminishing.. I'm in the field of Logistics and I can say they or any other race are not going anywhere anytime soon 🤣. Just stop this shit and let's try and live together. Peace!✌
Rice Aesthetics Thats factually untrue though. The white population has significantly diminished proportionally in the last 50 years.
I literally wouldn't care if white people disapper and yes I'm white. Yes i would care if canadian culture (tolerance etc) disappeared, but i dont care if the people who carry it on are white.
@@TheStatisticalPizza No, its just the other races has increased exponentially to the point of overpopulation, wich is why they are streaming to white countries, so they too become overpopulated and just as crappy as where they came from.
My country had a opulation of 4 million 30 years ago. Then we opened the floogates to immigration, and we had a 30% increase in population in just 30 years. And thats with under replacement level birthrates. It has made everything worse. As infrastructure, educated personell, and tax income has NOT increades 30% with the population increase. Mass immigration is an unequvical disaster.
Hey, Big Brother, you know George Orwell was literally a socialist right? Just a little interesting fact for you there :)
@@r-pupz7032 What a weird comment. Just because I like one of his books doesn't mean I subscribe to every single belief that he held.
Is this guy serious? "White culture" sounds extremly dumb to a european, because here nationality is alot more important than skin colour (I guess that isn't much better, but that's why)
I really wish he had brought up the higher incarceration rates of black men as an explanation for why there are so many single parent families in the black community
all european countries are the same BTW. There is absolutely no difference. Not any wars either.
'You'd have to ask black people' made we literally cry. How do these racists deny that policy has an enormous impact on communities of colour?
Because then they'd have to admit the existence of systemic racism, and doing that would expose the fact that they've been playing the game of life on easy mode in comparison to black people, which leads to the fact that they didn't get everything they have through "hard work and rugged individualism."
@@jubilantsleep 😂👏
"Communities of colour" 😅😅😅
"communities of colour" 🤡🤡🤡
Richard Spencer Jr
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
TWERKIN??!??
Lmao
"I am white..." - Whitest voice ever - 2017
Im not Racist I just want Black people to be separate and immigrated out -2018 logic
Dude front loaded the talk with saying how he's totally into black culture and doesn't care about race that much. Then he goes on and on about how white culture is better and how he actually does care about race quite a bit.
'Its better being poor in America than it is to be rich in other countries'
Yea, I'm pretty sure a Saudi Prince or an Ethiopian noble would rather live in an American ghetto than live in luxury in their homelands. Viva America!
Being poor in the U.S. does not mean that you have to live in a ghetto. Being a poor person in NY for example is very different than Alabama let alone Nigeria. You are doing exactly the same thing that he did. You are conflating a nuanced topic to fit your specific narrative to it. Comfort and luxury is also different from one individual to another. Individual freedoms and Liberties can be way more important to someone than the accumulation of capital. Poor people in America have many more opportunities and help than other non westernized countries.
@@Onthebrink5 no you're wrong. Freedom goes in hand with people who utilizes it. If someone is born in religious state of Saudi Arabia, American freedom doesn't mean anything to that person.
@@takeshikovach5165 American freedom might not mean that much because of religion and culture. That being said people from North Korea w/o any freedom escape to South Korea. You believe that only the majority matters. The people that do not want authoritarian laws have no voice. I do not care about that person. I care about the people being murdered because they do not fall in line or have different beliefs. To those people American freedom is a beautiful dream that they can not escape.
"Republicans have to change their platforms to get black people to vote for them."
Welcome to politics.
dude took an hour and a half to say "I'm racist"
56:58
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wtf was that
lmfaooo right???
Maybe just unconsciously stating something else about blk culture that he enjoys. ''I don't hate the blacks! I love rap , basketball games and shaking asses!'' #sonotracist.
@@phtest9063 Definitely sounded that way. Almost like a suggestion. Man I hate guys like that.
“Big-government conservative” that’s a great new euphemism for a fascist
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Hey everyone, I have a short summary of this debate! Here you go, thank me later: This guy is just racist.
(And not the kind "Waaaah, lefties call everyone racist these days!", but an actual racist).
Starts at 0:00.
attackmaster555 ever heard of inductive reasoning?
like honestly... wouldn't it be easier to just admit your're racist? These people want to have their cake and eat it too
Last year one of my coworkers was a Nigerian immigrant. He did not think very highly of the "white culture" in America because he thought we were so distant and atomized from each other. Nigerian citizens, he said, treated each other like family or at least like distant cousins. But we Americans acted like we had no relation to anyone else.
Bogdan Cvetkovic and that is an absolute true observation
That's something I've been thinking about a lot lately, because it's super true. I feel like it has more to do with white people having more access to technology than anything else though. We've managed to replace a ton of human interaction with computers that other cultures have considerably less access to and it's really handicapped us. It's really scary honestly, I feel like my generation has to relearn basic social skills our parents took as a given. And I can't help but notice how much more difficult it makes any degree of political organization on a local level. How do you put together a worker strike when you can't even get people to look each other in the fucking eye?
Yes ignoring all the robberies, kidnappings, beatings and killings, Nigerians treat each other like family
a true /pol/ak
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What I love about a 1.5+ hour long debate is you really get to know what someone thinks. Fox news is veiled white nationalism, but you don't really get to see it so clearly like this.
Exactly. You get to know someone more by having a conversation with them as opposed to a 5 to 10 minute interview or monologue from a media show host in their safe space. This kid started off calm with his usual talking points, but after about 15 mins of being challenged, he loses it, starts complaining about Hispanics in east LA, etc.
This dude has no concept of cause and effect.
Holy shit this guy genuinely cannot form a distinction between lying and being mistaken. That kinda shows a concerning lack of cognitive function.
"hitting me with a lot of questions there" *literally asked one question*
This guy gets really mad when cornered
just like jontron. he digs himself into a trap and then plays the victim card
This dude's not even Polish. He's American. Just because his grandparents may have been Polish it doesn't mean he is. It pisses me off so much when people identify themselves with some vague ancestry.
that poor man's IQ... I feel so bad.
I would also state that a greater diversity of immigration (non-white to be lamely simple) would be a net positive. The social impact of being exposed to other cultures and people who don't look like us is more likely to create a greater sense of empathy with how we deal with international issues. While it wouldn't be immediate and the issues of racist people would be something to consider in the push back on that gain, we could find creative ways to counter that as well.
I'm not sure what would make you think I'm an elitist", but are you saying that abuse doesn't happen in specific areas?
And if a population is majority non-white, I would suggest white integration. Our empathy and who we extend it to is directly impacted by who we view as "members of our tribe". I care about people in Detroit as much as I do people in Bangladesh. I want people to have good lives with wonderful opportunities. These facotrs play a direct role in who we feel we should be helping.
You can't take a situation like America and compare it to South Africa on such an absurd level. There are so many layers of issues to go through that it makes it useless. I can however show you how white society has benefited by black integration though... Jazz & Blues (which you can thank for rock, metal, etc) to name a few. These are means of expression that allow us as humans to relate. Now if only we could remove the abusive nature in which we have benefited from them (which won't happen for past issues).
I don't understand why I have to "wake up". All of these areas of poverty that are used as examples are prime examples of why Capitalism is a failed model. Sadly, the only reason you seem to care about them is because they reinforce the narrative that external cultures are inherently flawed.
Tommy Smith Are you a trump supporter by any chance
To add to that, it should be noted how extremely flawed and damaging the notion is that the solution to anything is "how white it is". Anyone embracing this idea has a very superficial perspective on the impacts of this. You are essentially tying issues directly to "race" and thus creating a paradigm in which the proper solution to issues is to address it through the lens of race. What this would mean in a white ethno-state is a collective of ignorant people who will start looking at all issues based on who is a "purer" factor of whiteness.
Taken this to a more detailed few, people will eventually start taking about how Greek & Italian genetics are the next problem. So must get rid of them... and so on, and so on. Leading to a small population of assholes all killing each other over the misrepresented results of "flawed" dna tests.
Why do these people ALWAYS end up mentioning Zionists (read: Jews)?
"We dont need a better country" awesome.... I am glad this person has such strong political views. Like ... just... wow my dude.
Sometimes listening to white people is exhausting. Thanks for Destiny!
Is in favor of small government, thinks China is a model nation in many regards... Ok then.
Exactly lmao I love China but they have a very big government lol even trump was fawning over xi ping and wanted the us to be more like China. Haha
Strap in boys! ITS FEELS BEFORE REALS TIME!!
Captain! The feels over reals have hit _maximum overdrive!_ She's gonna tear herself apart!!!
This channel is too reliant on sources at times. Claims like "immigrants will create a left leaning country" go untouched because they aren't studied. It's obvious where the claims come from, it's a lazy excuse if you're a conservative to justify less immigration. It's based on that immigrants tend to vote left leaning, which is obvious since people tend to vote in their own interests (except America, who have deluded themselves that the majority of the people end up gaining from less security and stability for the middle class). Once people are a part of the functioning and established system, their votes will most likely sway. You don't need a source or a study for this, people tend to vote in their own interests.
@Alexa Smythe yup that's what voter ID laws are for. Fuck the republicans and conservatives.
What is white culture?
*15 second silence*
Are you gonna let me explain it???
• Yeah it’s free speech!
• NASCAR
• Country music
Its the legacy from greek, rome and the enlightenment, combined with christianity. That is white culture.
The rule of law. Competancy and meritocracy, self reliance, contracts, freedom of thaught and speech. Equality under the law. Freedom from persecution by the state. Sovreingty and divinity of the individual.
Its better explained offcourse as European culture. As thats what it really is. And it only exists in western countries. Japan, south korea, the previous commonwealth and america + Europe (or at least western europe) have this culture. The rest of the world does not.
Thor M Rule of law was not invented by Europeans. Muslims ans asians contributed just as much, if not more, to the modern state
No muslims = no navigation equipment = no "white" America
No asians = no paper money, gunpowder, etc
Europeans were at a privileged position geographically, "their" contributions to modern society do not make them or their "culture" superior, whatever the fuck that means for you racists
Destiny did you know that who was considered 'Han Chinese' broadened as China expanded. China is basically the EU if it was a united country.
The first 35:00 minutes is this dude talking around the fact the he's just right out racist
It's all racists do.
This guy should be pleased to hear that more and more minorities are voting red.
Yeah it’s very quickly changing. Tons of immigrants come from failed leftist states and won’t ever vote that way.
@@nokiot9 due to their own countries' fascism
this guy is the very definition of "I'm not racist, I like rap music"
The depressing thing about watching these debates is that no one ever changes their viewpoint, they just get angry. THAT is what is wrong with our country.
Holy shit the truth. Even though, I feel like they dont have to change their view, they BARELY want to admit the plot holes in their beliefs. Which seems, at the least, a bit problematic.
I don't think someone can realistically be ever open to changing their viewpoints on the spot, but this debate is still useful as he might lull over it for a few weeks and have a bit of self-reflection, it's what happened to me anyway.
That, my friend, is what's wrong with human nature. History is full of people who have done stunningly stupid and awful things just to get out of admitting they're wrong about something.
All you need to do is argue calmly.. If you both start raising your voices you will start getting angrier and angrier.
Is anyone going to tell him Hispanic isn't a race.
"A minority majority country" is that a thing? Is this like an actual thing that people say?
tfw two white guys debate "Black" culture
rofl "small government" is code for "I want to eliminate any aspects of the government I don't like, like all the checks, balances and regulations - and all the other things that help people - and use it to trounce the rights of people I don't like"
Good luck finding even a single exception to that - it's sure as f not inaccurate.
What do you do?
(Thinks about his job at walmart)
"Its not important"
Facebook profile says, "CEO" of some company he made up
😂
Let's be honest, this caller doesn't even buy his own food.
Facts
But Mexicans speak SPANISH a European language. Boko Harman doesn't own most of Nigeria and Nigeria speak English. The only reason for high increasing populations is because they are developing nations, developing so will become developed. This guy is just a straight up racists.
1:02:30 This dude says he doesnt want to use the "i have black friends card" but he already used it when he talked abt liking music and shit lmao
I don't like your disrespect destiny. He does sound like a veteran. Probably did like 3 or 4 tours in duty. He probably went through Modern Warfare, Modern Warfare 2, Modern Warfare 3, and Ghosts ATLEAST. He might of even saw World at War, and even Advanced Warfare. God bless this man.
Lmao 😂 this was the funniest comment I've read all week
Happy to continue listening, and the video is 2 years old so this will likely get buried, but at the ~12:00 minute mark, the digression demonstrated by the viewer surrounding the "lies" pertaining to immigration expansion is heart wrenching to watch. This gentlemen actually seems to believe that a misconception on good faith equates to a "lie". I have only ever seen that behavior from the conservatives (or I suppose Left) of whom think there is some essential "truth" that when comprehended will shift one's thoughts "in-line" with objective reality; Such a cringe thing to see in regards to someone whom thinks politics, or the distribution of violence, is important to his views on social organization.