Talk about quality equipment.. in 1971 my dad took the family camping and purchased a Primus two burner propane stove... We have used it many times during power failures over the years.. I used it through the 90s into the 2000s camping with my kids.. and it still functions perfect!!! Yes a camp stove from 1971 still works perfect! Buy once cry once..
Big Dave your videos are never too long! Those of us that respect you and know what we're doing listen to you because you preach to the choir and educate new converts equally! 🏴
Spot on with gear needed concept of practicing with load out,checking cleanliness,condition of gear- repair materials available.Attitude, can-do,will-do...never give up will get us there.
I agree with the comments, you were the mentor I started learning and I continue to be a huge fan. Mt son now watches your videos and he has learned a lot as well
I luv a good hike & cook video to show how things come together & to share ideas for a good time. My experience with weight is that the better shape I'm in the less it affects me. A bout with covid & some distractions really make me feel every extra ounce. Good tips for how to carry. I carried on my last 6 mile hike. It was okay, and I decided to tweak my pack contents. Scout pack is tough, but don't let geese chew on the zipper. Lol. Thanks for putting in the miles & sharing! Looking forward to part 2!
I run the sawyer squeeze with the CNOC bag as well, but I’ve rigged mine for use as a gravity system by threading some courage into the clip at the top of the bag. I also carry a spout which screws onto the squeeze that I connect to tubing that I can run into my clean water container or plug directly into my hydration bladder through a quick connect in the drinking line. I don’t even have to remove the bladder from my pack, just quick disconnect the drinking valve and plug in to the filter. My boil system is a jetboil MiniMo, which is extremely similar to Dave’s primus system. It also connects the stove and cook vessel and comes stock with feet for the canister the store into the lid. The stove and small iso canister fit inside it. Haven’t had a chance to use it on the trail, but it lives in my lunch bag for work and gets banged around as I carry it in and out. Haven’t had a problem with it yet (the igniter is still going strong, which is something I know breaks often on many models). Between the two of those and chemical treatments as a backup, I don’t see the need for a Grayle type system. It seems to take a lot of effort to push down and it doesn’t take long to use the sawyer. I’ve debated some of the UV light systems to kill things that can live through filtration, but it hasn’t risen to the level of importance of buying one yet.
Dave, thanks to your water purification class/video I've upped the quality of the systems I am using. 1)Grayl Geopress, 2) Membrane Solutions gravity water filter (6L), and 3) the Sawyer mini w/tap water connection + Katadyn carbon filter. After following along with you in understanding the role the activated carbon provides I sought out options 2 & 3 that I've listed. Perhaps those devices may be of use to you as well.
Excellent video Dave, I appreciate all you do. I'm looking forward myself to getting back out there, weather's starting to break here in NW Ohio finally.
I used to run the ridges with big buck benoit in duxbury vermont back in the day. Guys like you dave and buck are national treasures that should be enjoyed nationwide, Do i want my kid learning about bushcraft/survival or gender identity......yeah
Sadly I am stuck with a side by side because of my health but I still use a lot of the backpack and haversack basics to save room for tool or whatever else I am doing
The weights ae slightly off as stainless steel water bottle had plastic lid whilst the other had metal lid. Metal lids add a huge amount of weight due to thickness. It throws off the comparison results. I have pathfinder Titanium watte bottle with a nalgene plastic lid, makes it lighte and no horrrible metal on metal noise.
Here's a tip, i have integrated a small Platypus Gravityworks Carbon Element after the Sawyer filter, to get rid of color and taste/odor, aswell as some chemicals/toxins. Weight is 1.5 ounce, or 43 grams(just weighed it wet, weight is somewhat less dry). Capacity is about 300 liters(79 gallons) of water depending on quality. Its not a field cleanable product, but perhaps worth considering? I consider it more of a camp-type setup with a 3 liter Cnoc bag, I usually take my Grayl Geopress, the non-titanium big one, for hiking. The Grayl is a bit heavier, takes up more room, but is less convoluted imo.
This is brilliant. I actually purchased the Cnoc bag recently, I was using plastic water bottles as my 'dirty' water bottle for years, but it was always fiddly. Cnoc bags are pricey enough here, I found the alternative presented here interesting. I got cheaper collapsible water bottles before and they never quite worked properly. Cheers
I’d like to see you talk about pack weight as a percent of body weight, and how things might change for someone that is much smaller (e.g. petite female).
A surprising source of weight in the water bottles is the titanium lid. The steel has plastic and not a steel lid. Throw a human gear, or my favorite, the Camel Bak chute lid, and the titanium has even more savings over the stainless.
Nice video! For the durability, price and weight difference, I stick with stainless over titanium :). It would be very interesting to see the weight difference and what you would bring if you just use more traditional (common man) food for the same time spent (rice, flour, corn meal, etc). I would say that's where the devil is when it comes to save weight.
Titanium is stronger when thinner than many other metals so items made thin can be lighter with good durability. If you make the item out of similar thickness to a Steel item, the difference is much less. Moral of the story is, ALWAYS check the weight of an item when comparing because Titanium doesn't always mean lighter weight. That GRAYL in Titanium costs on average, $100 more than the plastic version for almost the exact same weight. The advantage is possibly higher durability and the ability to boil water in the outer cup. Is that worth an extra $100 to you? Titanium is not always better. Pay attention to the details of a product.
Hello, I do the same kind of activity as you, with almost the same equipment, in terms of weight, and in weather and terrain conditions that are quite similar. Recently, I got a new bionic knee, which brought changes to the foot, making my old shoes no longer comfortable. I am curious to know what you wear to the feet for activities of outings in the woods with about 30-40 lbs on the back. Sorry for the grammar I’m your neighbor of the north, a French Canadian. Thank you for generously sharing your knowledge.
Im surprised you dont carry a battlebelt. I have my survival backpack with food, tarps and hammock. Then i got my battlebelt with fire making, trapping and fishing, sawyer filter and silkyboy saw. I fully agree. Between you and other long term survival guys i bought good gear. My bk2 kabar knife will last forever. Plus my 6 inch long ferral rods. Between tent camping with canvas tarps and hiking and hammock camping is my set ups. My survival backpack and battlebelt is geared toward long term survival. I even have heirloom seeds and got smart and have a map of my state. Ive learned a lot off you and others. Thank you very much.
overall that SS versus Ti comparison was a shining golden nugget of wisdom. makes that whole argument boil down to 13 ounces. if 13 ounces is gunna kill you, then 13 ounces is gunna kill you i guess.
Damnit, I got the Grayl Ti Ultrapress and just looked at the Ti Geopress like you’re using…. I gotta get that. 8oz more water in the same amount of time and a straining lid for cooking.
Stainless is timeless. My Pathfinder 8inch skillet is a very comfortable weight and performs brilliantly. The base is a balanced heat sink. It can sit in the fire, or on the coals. It can take a beating or a roasting; and a quick scrub of steel wool has it looking like new after every use. It's my favourite camping utensil; and worth it's weight in steel. I prefer stainless to Aluminum or Ti.
Hi Dave, I've been following your channel for quite some time. I have a place here in south Patagonia that I am sure will be useful for your projects. Leave the link to video in comment below:
There are different kinds of loadouts for different kinds of outdoor activity. The military might have 90 lbs of gear and food. A bush crafter might have 40 lbs of gear and food. A thru-hiker might have less than 20 lbs of gear and food. A physically fit man between 18-40 or so years old can carry 90 lbs, maybe, for a while, but not too far. Likely anyone trying to carry military grade equipment and canned foods or MREs on a thru-hike won't make it to the first resupply point. Each type of outdoor activity requires different choices. But there are things from each genre offers some things that can be used by others. If you are no longer 20 or 30 something the thought of a long hike with a 40 lb pack is a turnoff. 20 lbs (wet, everything) is my goal. With care and planning I can do 3+ days, three season hiking under 20 lbs. But it does require serious cutting of ounces and more expensive gear. At my age it is either that or stay home.
As much as i love hunting. Where i live we have no real land. Im trying to move but under this economy i hardly survive day to day. Im more a travel and fish guy now. I use a mix of backpacking gear. I find bushcrafting gear to heavy for my use. I don't understand sleeping in brush bed. I learned that stuff for survival. Survival is when all your training fails. I prefer to never rough it.
Great fckn content, man. Cutting some pounds off the gear, showing the gear working while on the move....awesome. When you coming out with the Pathfinder ultralight pack???...😁👍🏽🤘🏽
Taking my grandson out with my (soon to be his) Ruger 10/22 tomorrow to scout the turkey woods for opening day Wednesday. Some of my kit is thrift store fare, some is stuff I pulled out of the trash, some is the money no option...I just get the best when I can. Nobody's ever complained about owning quality gear out in the sticks. I've seen some insult other for paying over $20 for a woods knife while waxing poetic about their $200 hatchets (can't make this stuff up), but as always, it's the indian, not the arrow.
The quiet nature vibes are real nice in this video What are your thoughts on the Titanium Grayl vs the regular plastic Grayl? Any noticeable differences? Does the metal construction feel like it justifies the price tag?
REI had a killer deal on the Titanium Grayl pre-order...if you think $160 vs $200 is a killer deal 🤣. Well I bought it and it arrived the day AFTER I came home from my camping trip, so I have yet to use it. I think it's actually heavier than the MSR Guardian but I like the carbon part of the filtration system. I'll give it a go here eventually. The acreage you have is fantastic, we have a tiny 6 acres but it's woods and a creek...if I close my eyes and squint I can pretend it's remote.
I like the content that's more 'backpacking' style, as that's what I have been getting into more-and-more lately.
If you did do an hour long video, I would watch it. There's nobody else on RUclips I would use an hour of my time to learn from.
Talk about quality equipment.. in 1971 my dad took the family camping and purchased a Primus two burner propane stove... We have used it many times during power failures over the years.. I used it through the 90s into the 2000s camping with my kids.. and it still functions perfect!!! Yes a camp stove from 1971 still works perfect! Buy once cry once..
Big Dave your videos are never too long! Those of us that respect you and know what we're doing listen to you because you preach to the choir and educate new converts equally! 🏴
Spot on with gear needed concept of practicing with load out,checking cleanliness,condition of gear- repair materials available.Attitude,
can-do,will-do...never give up will get us there.
Love it! Getting out and using it makes all the sense.
I agree with the comments, you were the mentor I started learning and I continue to be a huge fan. Mt son now watches your videos and he has learned a lot as well
Dave your the real deal ! You live this stuff ! Excellent lessons , worth every minute! Thank you so much 👍
Thank you for the honest comparison of stainless steel and titanium.
Love the channel Dave ❤️
Enjoyed this video style a ton. Good stuff as usual
Nice work Dave! These videos are so important! Keep these coming.
Great content. Thanks for taking us along.
Would you please put a link for the feet from Amazon, thanks. Great video and information
Thanks, Dave. Always putting in the work.
I luv a good hike & cook video to show how things come together & to share ideas for a good time. My experience with weight is that the better shape I'm in the less it affects me. A bout with covid & some distractions really make me feel every extra ounce. Good tips for how to carry. I carried on my last 6 mile hike. It was okay, and I decided to tweak my pack contents. Scout pack is tough, but don't let geese chew on the zipper. Lol. Thanks for putting in the miles & sharing! Looking forward to part 2!
Fantastic breakdown so far! I'm really looking forward to Part 2.
This is exactly what I needed right now!!! Thank you so much Dave for these endless years of information!
love these kind of video series Dave! thank you so much for taking us with you!
I absolutely love my Scout Pack!!! Thanks for showing it off Dave!
Great video, Dave! thanks for sharing the trek.
I run the sawyer squeeze with the CNOC bag as well, but I’ve rigged mine for use as a gravity system by threading some courage into the clip at the top of the bag. I also carry a spout which screws onto the squeeze that I connect to tubing that I can run into my clean water container or plug directly into my hydration bladder through a quick connect in the drinking line. I don’t even have to remove the bladder from my pack, just quick disconnect the drinking valve and plug in to the filter.
My boil system is a jetboil MiniMo, which is extremely similar to Dave’s primus system. It also connects the stove and cook vessel and comes stock with feet for the canister the store into the lid. The stove and small iso canister fit inside it. Haven’t had a chance to use it on the trail, but it lives in my lunch bag for work and gets banged around as I carry it in and out. Haven’t had a problem with it yet (the igniter is still going strong, which is something I know breaks often on many models).
Between the two of those and chemical treatments as a backup, I don’t see the need for a Grayle type system. It seems to take a lot of effort to push down and it doesn’t take long to use the sawyer. I’ve debated some of the UV light systems to kill things that can live through filtration, but it hasn’t risen to the level of importance of buying one yet.
Love this content. Great work, Dave.
Dave, thanks to your water purification class/video I've upped the quality of the systems I am using. 1)Grayl Geopress, 2) Membrane Solutions gravity water filter (6L), and 3) the Sawyer mini w/tap water connection + Katadyn carbon filter. After following along with you in understanding the role the activated carbon provides I sought out options 2 & 3 that I've listed. Perhaps those devices may be of use to you as well.
Excellent video Dave, I appreciate all you do. I'm looking forward myself to getting back out there, weather's starting to break here in NW Ohio finally.
Excellent video Dave!
Good stuff! Thanks for doing these videos Dave
Really digging this type of video. Great way to see and learn the compilation of skills and see more of your personality too. Much love
Dave thus type video os awesome! Keep em coming! Especially with that fish/camp/hike trip you mentioned!
You're getting back in shape. I guess I need to get off my lazy @$$ and do the same.
I used to run the ridges with big buck benoit in duxbury vermont back in the day. Guys like you dave and buck are national treasures that should be enjoyed nationwide, Do i want my kid learning about bushcraft/survival or gender identity......yeah
Sadly I am stuck with a side by side because of my health but I still use a lot of the backpack and haversack basics to save room for tool or whatever else I am doing
Watching again!!Thanks..
Nice video ! THANKS Dave 👏👏👏🏕
Nice and green where you’re at. Still no leafs on any trees in Maine. Just barely started budding. And i mean fresh new tiny unopened buds.
G'day mate. Cheers for the updates. Great vid of your surroudings. Hello from Australia.
The weights ae slightly off as stainless steel water bottle had plastic lid whilst the other had metal lid. Metal lids add a huge amount of weight due to thickness. It throws off the comparison results. I have pathfinder Titanium watte bottle with a nalgene plastic lid, makes it lighte and no horrrible metal on metal noise.
Looks nice down there, we're just budding out on the trees up north
Here's a tip, i have integrated a small Platypus Gravityworks Carbon Element after the Sawyer filter, to get rid of color and taste/odor, aswell as some chemicals/toxins. Weight is 1.5 ounce, or 43 grams(just weighed it wet, weight is somewhat less dry). Capacity is about 300 liters(79 gallons) of water depending on quality. Its not a field cleanable product, but perhaps worth considering?
I consider it more of a camp-type setup with a 3 liter Cnoc bag, I usually take my Grayl Geopress, the non-titanium big one, for hiking. The Grayl is a bit heavier, takes up more room, but is less convoluted imo.
Hiking poles definitely help with long hiking trips.
Dave is the King
This is brilliant. I actually purchased the Cnoc bag recently, I was using plastic water bottles as my 'dirty' water bottle for years, but it was always fiddly. Cnoc bags are pricey enough here, I found the alternative presented here interesting. I got cheaper collapsible water bottles before and they never quite worked properly. Cheers
Great job on the information 👏 keep up the good work 👏
Great video. I love the hiking videos.
Gonna have to start calling you Gucci Dave.
Hope you still have your old gear?
Interesting to see you evolve.
Keep making the good stuff.
Thanks Dave
Would you please put a link for the adapter for the Sawer mini to Hydro pack bag, thanks. Great video and information
Good shit Dave.
Awesome video my friend
I’d like to see you talk about pack weight as a percent of body weight, and how things might change for someone that is much smaller (e.g. petite female).
A surprising source of weight in the water bottles is the titanium lid. The steel has plastic and not a steel lid. Throw a human gear, or my favorite, the Camel Bak chute lid, and the titanium has even more savings over the stainless.
Getting that dirt time!
Nice video! For the durability, price and weight difference, I stick with stainless over titanium :). It would be very interesting to see the weight difference and what you would bring if you just use more traditional (common man) food for the same time spent (rice, flour, corn meal, etc). I would say that's where the devil is when it comes to save weight.
Can you do a Everglades class again please or ocala.
Titanium is stronger when thinner than many other metals so items made thin can be lighter with good durability. If you make the item out of similar thickness to a Steel item, the difference is much less. Moral of the story is, ALWAYS check the weight of an item when comparing because Titanium doesn't always mean lighter weight. That GRAYL in Titanium costs on average, $100 more than the plastic version for almost the exact same weight. The advantage is possibly higher durability and the ability to boil water in the outer cup. Is that worth an extra $100 to you? Titanium is not always better. Pay attention to the details of a product.
Hello, I do the same kind of activity as you, with almost the same equipment, in terms of weight, and in weather and terrain conditions that are quite similar. Recently, I got a new bionic knee, which brought changes to the foot, making my old shoes no longer comfortable. I am curious to know what you wear to the feet for activities of outings in the woods with about 30-40 lbs on the back. Sorry for the grammar I’m your neighbor of the north, a French Canadian. Thank you for generously sharing your knowledge.
Ty, Dave
really nice marriage of time honoured and 'what's available today'- It's a tricky marriage we all have to work on.. (y) Thanks for the ideas....
That fat muskrat going through the creek.😂
The good old 10/22. My favorite firearm platform and caliber. Cheap and plentiful ammo.
Very informative .thank you sir.
Is that a Ruger 10/22 you are carrying? Nice.
Great video, what is the capacity of the food bag? TIA.
Went turkey hunting this week, got one. Definitely better than a store bought.
Im surprised you dont carry a battlebelt. I have my survival backpack with food, tarps and hammock. Then i got my battlebelt with fire making, trapping and fishing, sawyer filter and silkyboy saw. I fully agree. Between you and other long term survival guys i bought good gear. My bk2 kabar knife will last forever. Plus my 6 inch long ferral rods. Between tent camping with canvas tarps and hiking and hammock camping is my set ups. My survival backpack and battlebelt is geared toward long term survival. I even have heirloom seeds and got smart and have a map of my state. Ive learned a lot off you and others. Thank you very much.
Dave!!! Is that a metal Geopress??? Take my money! Where, when, how? That’s awesome!
dave what was that are with the cement squares were you saw the muskrat?
overall that SS versus Ti comparison was a shining golden nugget of wisdom. makes that whole argument boil down to 13 ounces. if 13 ounces is gunna kill you, then 13 ounces is gunna kill you i guess.
Have you ever been tempted by the dark side to try thru-hike ultralight style?
Chinese titanium is usually not thin enough to show an advantage on weight. The Japanese stuff usually is, tho.
Damnit, I got the Grayl Ti Ultrapress and just looked at the Ti Geopress like you’re using…. I gotta get that. 8oz more water in the same amount of time and a straining lid for cooking.
You look good for 60 buddy. I don't think many stop to think about that. What is your fitness regime?
Been following some AT hikers and gear videos and they use quite different gear than your usual videos, but there was a bit more overlap today.
Southwest chicken and rice is the best. The biscuits and gravy meal was REALLY good.
Stainless is timeless. My Pathfinder 8inch skillet is a very comfortable weight and performs brilliantly. The base is a balanced heat sink. It can sit in the fire, or on the coals. It can take a beating or a roasting; and a quick scrub of steel wool has it looking like new after every use.
It's my favourite camping utensil; and worth it's weight in steel.
I prefer stainless to Aluminum or Ti.
well done
The longer the better
Do you spray your gear with permethrin? Ticks and bugs control ideas?
great vid
Cool beans!
Would it be good enough to rinse out the water bag with boiling water to make it safe to drink from?
Hi Dave, I've been following your channel for quite some time. I have a place here in south Patagonia that I am sure will be useful for your projects. Leave the link to video in comment below:
There are different kinds of loadouts for different kinds of outdoor activity. The military might have 90 lbs of gear and food. A bush crafter might have 40 lbs of gear and food. A thru-hiker might have less than 20 lbs of gear and food. A physically fit man between 18-40 or so years old can carry 90 lbs, maybe, for a while, but not too far. Likely anyone trying to carry military grade equipment and canned foods or MREs on a thru-hike won't make it to the first resupply point. Each type of outdoor activity requires different choices. But there are things from each genre offers some things that can be used by others. If you are no longer 20 or 30 something the thought of a long hike with a 40 lb pack is a turnoff. 20 lbs (wet, everything) is my goal. With care and planning I can do 3+ days, three season hiking under 20 lbs. But it does require serious cutting of ounces and more expensive gear. At my age it is either that or stay home.
As much as i love hunting. Where i live we have no real land. Im trying to move but under this economy i hardly survive day to day.
Im more a travel and fish guy now.
I use a mix of backpacking gear. I find bushcrafting gear to heavy for my use.
I don't understand sleeping in brush bed. I learned that stuff for survival. Survival is when all your training fails.
I prefer to never rough it.
If put the video out we will watch it, Take Care out there and Stay Safe..
We all love titanium Dave like you do too xd
Problem as I get lucky to get two to three times a year
#KeepLeading
km or mi?
Great fckn content, man. Cutting some pounds off the gear, showing the gear working while on the move....awesome. When you coming out with the Pathfinder ultralight pack???...😁👍🏽🤘🏽
Thanks for the video
Looking forward to the next one
An hour would be nice
If you boil water and use instant coffee you won't have to clean it
Taking my grandson out with my (soon to be his) Ruger 10/22 tomorrow to scout the turkey woods for opening day Wednesday.
Some of my kit is thrift store fare, some is stuff I pulled out of the trash, some is the money no option...I just get the best when I can. Nobody's ever complained about owning quality gear out in the sticks. I've seen some insult other for paying over $20 for a woods knife while waxing poetic about their $200 hatchets (can't make this stuff up), but as always, it's the indian, not the arrow.
The quiet nature vibes are real nice in this video
What are your thoughts on the Titanium Grayl vs the regular plastic Grayl? Any noticeable differences? Does the metal construction feel like it justifies the price tag?
REI had a killer deal on the Titanium Grayl pre-order...if you think $160 vs $200 is a killer deal 🤣. Well I bought it and it arrived the day AFTER I came home from my camping trip, so I have yet to use it. I think it's actually heavier than the MSR Guardian but I like the carbon part of the filtration system. I'll give it a go here eventually. The acreage you have is fantastic, we have a tiny 6 acres but it's woods and a creek...if I close my eyes and squint I can pretend it's remote.
That adapter just looks 3D printed. Time to just buy a 3d printer.
Great video!! We know what corporal clown will copy next in his videos. 🙄🤣
That was a nice big looking rat. He moving fast not to be lunch.
Anyone else think it was 20 thousand worth of gear instead of kilometers? Lol. Oops
Thanks Dave