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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @snotgoblin4066
    @snotgoblin4066 3 месяца назад +8

    Thanks for the sponsored spot, Yuri! Great stuff.. Hellblasters shooting a second time after failing their hazardous, woof hah

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +2

      My pleasure! Yeah, they aren't nearly as bad as some people think

    • @n0rst4thew1cked3
      @n0rst4thew1cked3 3 месяца назад +1

      @snotgoblin4066 your stuff looks really cool! My wife actually found your stuff maybe a couple months ago and showed me your terrain. Absolutely love the modularity. Definitely gonna get me some with my Christmas bonus 😂

    • @HoudiniGameArtist
      @HoudiniGameArtist 3 месяца назад +1

      That has been removed. It's now when they die from an enemy attack.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      @@HoudiniGameArtist I honestly think it’s a mistake by GW😂

    • @RFischer
      @RFischer 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HoudiniGameArtist Enemy attack or from overcharging.

  • @Darkja
    @Darkja 3 месяца назад +53

    The best reason to run a Captain, its because you own a Captain with the shield and it looks completely awesome and its easily one of the best miinis in the game!

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +3

      Totally agree 👍

    • @ghost9pm407
      @ghost9pm407 3 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely. That models makes a great proxy for Uriel Ventris or Sicarius. Must have been the people from AoS that designed that one because the recent 40k stuff has been pretty bland.

  • @jakubmizerski5685
    @jakubmizerski5685 3 месяца назад +9

    Incursors+Phobos Lt+Impulsor - Scout 6’’, move 12’’, disembark 3’’, theow grenades, shoot with lethals, move d6, throw a mine. In just one round they killed Wardog from Chaos Knights for me recently.

  • @shadowywarrior
    @shadowywarrior 3 месяца назад +5

    Ive been liking hellblasters for awhile, and I'm utilizing them more.

  • @TheSp00nz
    @TheSp00nz 3 месяца назад +1

    God damn I wish I had that captain model! Great to have you back making content, thanks for churning it out. Hope to see you touching on Robute with the points cut some time in the future. Get your two cents on him. I just love that model and want to get as competitive with him as possible.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Thank you! Oh yeah, he’s already on my worksheet 😄

  • @n0rst4thew1cked3
    @n0rst4thew1cked3 3 месяца назад +2

    You already know me Vf, I've been an advocate for my Hellblasters for ages lol. Especially since using that lieutenant with Fire Discipline combo. Also, you forgot to mention something about the Infernus Squad. You select a single unit that they shot with pyreblaster and that unit has to take a battle shock test. Run multiple Infernus squads, multiple units taking battle shock. Also congratulations on the sponsor! Glad to have you back

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Thank you my friend! It’s always so great to see your support and it’s greatly appreciated 🤗
      I’m starting to really like the hellblasters, they are an acquired taste 😂
      Yeah, forgot to say the battleshock part, totally slipped my mind

  • @kevinmartin5053
    @kevinmartin5053 3 месяца назад +1

    Hellblasters with LTs are pretty brutal. I will vary between using a 5 man squad with an Lt and an Impulser and a 10 man squad, LT and and an apothecary. I'll run the 5 man with firestorm assault and the 10 man with anvil seige. 20 over charged plasma using battle drill recall for sustained 1 and +1 to wound and a 5+ crit for not moving vaporizing most things.

  • @HBoh
    @HBoh 3 месяца назад +1

    Great to hear, the move went well.. and yes, always lots to cover... When your mind gets a break from constantly creating content.. and just gets time to think. 😊

  • @StorytellerCharm
    @StorytellerCharm 3 месяца назад +1

    Always love seeing you speak with passion while dropping knowledge in every video. Never stop, my friend.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Thanks, it really means a lot to me to hear that. 🤗 Same to you my friend 💪

  • @sidequestuk
    @sidequestuk 3 месяца назад +2

    Defo one of my fav 40k channels. Running salamanders 🎉

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +1

      I appreciate that! Vulkan LIVES!

  • @mathiasschulze6148
    @mathiasschulze6148 3 месяца назад +3

    Hellblasters with a lieutenant and Firediciplin are crazy...they have advance and shoot, fall back charge and shoot and shoot on death. They are faster and have more range than Eradicators. And if you spend one CP more they go to AP -4, ignoring cover, with sustained and lethal hits on a 5+. Hellblasters killing absolutely everything. I'm blowing up Landraiders with a 5 man squad...very very scarry

  • @vaclavzunt6835
    @vaclavzunt6835 2 месяца назад

    I believe you didn't mention that Phobos Lieutenatnt's ability still allows you to make a charge move after extra 1d6" move. You can also use this ability to re-embark into transport to keep them safe. I sometimes play big squad of Incursors with Repulsor as an mobile bunker, few rounds of shooting and embarking and a very long charge when time is right. I call them "tank ninjas" 😃.

  • @jonathanhacker8225
    @jonathanhacker8225 3 месяца назад +1

    Glad to see you back.

  • @rodrigocenturionvargas5380
    @rodrigocenturionvargas5380 3 месяца назад

    i have 2 repulsor and 12 eradicator and the combos with that units in close combat with my salamander is really amazing.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      @@rodrigocenturionvargas5380 that’s sounds nasty!

    • @rodrigocenturionvargas5380
      @rodrigocenturionvargas5380 3 месяца назад

      @@vfminiatures and for take and scary the objetive in the middle i use a redemer with a judiciar with S10 sword with 10 assault intercesors with fire first, amazing to take the middle for a cheap cost.

  • @Naddabeht
    @Naddabeht 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video, feels like it’s been a minute since you had one of these. I was wanting to get Hellblasters to deepstrike with Ventris since he got a bit of a glow up. Saw a double captain with assault intercessors do some serious damage. Aggressive with first group and counter punch with second group

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +1

      Most welcome my friend, we did have a big “vacation” moving to a new apartment 😂
      Hellblasters with Ventris is actually pretty cool, and yeah - I feel like he’s really becoming a must have for UM lists (seems GW want us to take all named characters lol).
      Yeah, JPI + captain is nasty, something similar to what I’m brewing now for my competitive BA lists (soon on the channel)

    • @Naddabeht
      @Naddabeht 3 месяца назад

      @@vfminiatures sorryy for confusion, not JPI, he used the assault intercessor with captains in impulsor . Dismounted and charged with first Captain+AI, and loaded the second one in the impulsor and moved them up. Next turn charged the second Captain+AI. Used Gladius so Captain had access to free lance Strat. Could have used advance and charge with assault doctrine, but didn’t use it. I think they took down big melee units like eightbound or something.

  • @EyeBall720
    @EyeBall720 3 месяца назад +4

    Hellblasters just got changed, so they don’t shoot when dying by anything that is not an attack

    • @mirkodatti1076
      @mirkodatti1076 3 месяца назад +4

      They do if they die by their hazardus but they don't shoot back if they die by granades for example

  • @RaggiDrex
    @RaggiDrex 3 месяца назад +1

    I like to run 10 Hellblasters with liutenant and Fire discipline or Azrael for Sustained/Lethal hits. They rock in my games. Also overwatch is strong under these buffs.

  • @beludius
    @beludius 3 месяца назад +1

    Captain w The Honour Vehement + assault intercessor is a real monster.
    In Assault doctrine + free Honour the Chapter, you can get once per game Full re-roll, 2+HIT A10 S10 AP3 D2 power fist with lance and devastating wound💣

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Yes! Absolutely mental combo

    • @william9557
      @william9557 2 месяца назад

      Blood angels does it better with sustained hits 3 with rage fuelled warrior

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 месяца назад

      I agree, but also Gladius and LAG arent really similar detachments. Gladius is much more versatile and shooting centric

  • @klevas17
    @klevas17 3 месяца назад

    16:14 if you disembark from impulsor, you cant make a charge... or am i wrong?

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +1

      You can, from any transport as well, unless that transport moved this turn

    • @klevas17
      @klevas17 3 месяца назад

      So how can you go 6 +3 disembak then advance and charge? :) sounds VERY good, but im not shure this is legal, imo only land raider alows that ​@@vfminiatures

  • @gorryman
    @gorryman 3 месяца назад +1

    Hilarious, I read the datasheet for the repulsor and saw the capacity for gravis and immediately thought okay Eradicators and Biologis in Gladius, and GW not only upped the Eradicators but the Biologis but they even upped Fire Discipline Enhancement in Gladius, surprised they left the Repulsar alone, pretty mean to nerf our best anti-tank unit into oblivion

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      I’d not say it’s nerfed into oblivion, but pretty seriously. They definitely want us to feel that it’s a premium combo and not meant to be in every list 🤗

    • @gorryman
      @gorryman 3 месяца назад +1

      @@vfminiatures Fair I think directing the Nerf to that exact combo to the point of the enhancement itself is a bit much, but I guess that's what balance is? What they did to the BT 20 man is a bit ridiculous too lol

  • @fabiusque4266
    @fabiusque4266 3 месяца назад +1

    I agree with the Hellblasters and Repulsors, althout the latter isnt exactly overlooked, but the rest is meh. They arent overlooked, there are just better options for the job that do what those units do and more.

  • @DisasterLord
    @DisasterLord 3 месяца назад

    I enjoy 5 infernus on an impulsor to get them where they need to be fast, got a lot of milleage out of them that way

  • @thekrispiestkreme5609
    @thekrispiestkreme5609 3 месяца назад

    The most recent FAQ said that hellblasters can’t use the for the chapter ability unless it’s destroyed from an attack, so stuff like out of combat mortal wounds and out of combat resolution effects (like overcharge) will no longer trigger for the chapter- that might rethink your opinion on hellblasters but they’re still not bad to deal with elite infantry and hold down an aggressive flank- you just gotta be a little more mindful with them now

    • @hultbult
      @hultbult 3 месяца назад

      Not accurate i think

  • @Aaron-l3l6g
    @Aaron-l3l6g 3 месяца назад +1

    Infernus Marines in Drop Pods. 🙂

    • @Aaron-l3l6g
      @Aaron-l3l6g 3 месяца назад

      They don't have to worry about getting shot off the board and can go exactly where you need them most and within that magical 12" for the tasty +1 strength

  • @lorenzolsp
    @lorenzolsp 2 месяца назад

    Have the Hellblasters + Lieutenant officially surpassed the Eradicators + Biologis now with their new points costs?

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 месяца назад

      I’d not say so, but they are significantly closer now

  • @Powaup
    @Powaup 3 месяца назад

    Hellblasters are the last things that can efficiently take the fire discipline since points went up

  • @BLUEBOYISLEDGE
    @BLUEBOYISLEDGE 3 месяца назад

    Captain + Assault Intercessors is so good. I run it a lot in Blood Angels and the amount of Dev Wounds you can fish for gets ridiculous.

    • @Michaelkayslay
      @Michaelkayslay 3 месяца назад

      How you get fishing devo wounds with captain and assault intercessors? They don't have dev wounds???

    • @BLUEBOYISLEDGE
      @BLUEBOYISLEDGE 3 месяца назад

      @@Michaelkayslay the captain has dev wounds with finest hour and the assault intercessors let him reroll wounds vs units on an objective

    • @Michaelkayslay
      @Michaelkayslay 3 месяца назад

      @BLUEBOYISLEDGE oh yeah 1 time. Not the intercessors get it though

    • @BLUEBOYISLEDGE
      @BLUEBOYISLEDGE 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Michaelkayslay no the intercessors don't get it, they're only there as a payload for the captain

  • @deltacharlie1760
    @deltacharlie1760 3 месяца назад

    A repulsor fits 6 Sanguinary Guard + Dante. Expensive but quite useful for long charges.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Hmm, that’s interesting 🤔

  • @MrChrisKou
    @MrChrisKou 3 месяца назад

    Really enjoy your vids, could you please verify once again that HBs can shoot again after failing a Hazardous test, 🙏🙏🙏

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! My take is they can, but I’d ask your TO for clarification before the even (if you play competitive). If you play against friends - i think they probably won’t be against it, as their rule literally says they can on their datasheet 😂

    • @MrChrisKou
      @MrChrisKou 3 месяца назад

      thank you for your quick reply, im clearly asking because there is something in the new update but could figure it out myself 🤦😂😂😂

  • @snakes808
    @snakes808 Месяц назад

    Happy to have found your channel, the other main informative channel aupex or whatever he's called has great information but has one HELL of an annoying voice to listen to... Keep it going dude!

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  Месяц назад +1

      Hahahaha, thank you so much😊😊😊 Glad to have you with us!

  • @NBeaver-bx4yl
    @NBeaver-bx4yl 3 месяца назад

    I have ran 10 Hellblasters with a Lieutenant and Azrael for like 15 games and the amount of work they have put is ridiculous. My opponents are scared of them. The sheer volume of quality fire is crazy. With both buffs, even their shoot on death is scary as hell. Plus with a 4++ invuln they take some work to deal with and they they shoot you back. So people don't really wanna shoot them.
    If they get tagged in melee, any light or medium threat gets demolished by Azrael and the captain. You need something big to take them down. One game, a winged hive tyrant charged them. Lille 3. Then Azrael and the captain killed him....

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Hell yeah, in DA they are just unstoppable! That moment with Az killing hive tyrant sounds amazing 🤩 I really want to run them now in my Gladius lists. With DW knights going up in price I feel it will be hard to fit them in lists though

  • @Venzynt
    @Venzynt 3 месяца назад +1

    Apothecary to bring back hellblasters and have them shoot on death again?

  • @dandaman9496
    @dandaman9496 3 месяца назад

    What is your opinion of droppoding 10 infernus marines straight into your opponents front line?

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Can you please elaborate on the tactics a bit? 🤗

  • @RFischer
    @RFischer 3 месяца назад

    The 3D printer of that turret you mentioned is....?

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      Just a 3D model of the normal Repulsor turret. If you get the correct one - it fits the Rep Ex chassis and you have a fully modular tank

    • @RFischer
      @RFischer 3 месяца назад

      @@vfminiatures Yes but who is selling that?
      I don't do 3D printing.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      @RFischer I actually don’t know any brands in particular. Look on 3D model galleries and then find any 3D workshop on Etsy, send them them file and ask how much to print

  • @Gaoshiki
    @Gaoshiki 3 месяца назад

    Are Hellblasters underrated, every SM army in my LGS has at least one unit

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      I’m mostly talking average players, but frankly I didn’t see many in GT lists either, Eradicators are much more popular I think

  • @andrewkuzo
    @andrewkuzo 3 месяца назад

    This is comment to support channel

  • @megateddyboy84
    @megateddyboy84 3 месяца назад +1

    The Repulsor trick of using overwatch and then embarking dosnt work.....
    Repulsor rules state its before charging unit moves.....
    Overwatch rules state u shoot at the beginning or at the end of chargmoves or moves or advances
    conclusion u would embark before u overwatch so someone cheated =P

  • @martins.8349
    @martins.8349 17 дней назад

    infernus + impulsor , drive around and burn

  • @scottyboy6269
    @scottyboy6269 3 месяца назад

    Loosing?

  • @angelskyd
    @angelskyd 3 месяца назад

    I just want a Land Raider in my Sisters Army

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +1

      That ride apparently is only for the boys 😂

    • @angelskyd
      @angelskyd 3 месяца назад

      @@vfminiatures Apparently! I've seen some amazing Sister theme Land Raiders, probably just done for the meme, of course not playable. But amazing looking.

    • @StorytellerCharm
      @StorytellerCharm 3 месяца назад

      @@vfminiatureshey now…we know the girls are Custodes now and they get their LR too! 🎉😂

  • @anuninformedidiot3896
    @anuninformedidiot3896 3 месяца назад

    How are these underrated. Everybody o know runs those plasma boys shooting on death

  • @Michaelkayslay
    @Michaelkayslay 3 месяца назад

    I'm vegan

  • @michaelpopa5317
    @michaelpopa5317 3 месяца назад

    Nothing will help 36wr sm.

  • @mosselliadelt
    @mosselliadelt 3 месяца назад

    did you put hellblasters as an underrated unit? THEE most played unit in tournaments? lmao

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад +1

      Didn’t know it to be THE most played 😂

    • @mosselliadelt
      @mosselliadelt 3 месяца назад

      @@vfminiatures 100% man, if you look at any of the winning lists people are running 2 squads of them with apothecaries

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  3 месяца назад

      I’m mostly judging among the average players, but thanks anyways 🤗

    • @frostedbutts4340
      @frostedbutts4340 3 месяца назад

      @@mosselliadelt Not sure what year those lists are from buddy. Pros are absolutely not taking 2 units of them.

    • @ghost9pm407
      @ghost9pm407 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@vfminiaturesI'm shocked by the number of people who are running Hellblasters. I really want to like them in combination with Lethals from an LT and Oath. I just really don't like helping my opponent by killing my own models.
      If I overcharge the whole brick and lose 2-3 and then my opponent kills another 3-4, they've lost most of their effectiveness. And that's a 295 point unit we're talking about that basically was just a flash in the pan. I'm just not seeing the appeal unfortunately because they would need to down something like Canis Rex to make their points back.