I usually dont comment but this dude lowered my temps by like 30 degress. My 5800x was making my nr200 case an oven by running at 90 degress but these tweaks helped by a landslide, thank you.
I have the 5800x and with my 240mm aio cooler I get a maximum temperature of 75 degrees Celsius at 100% CPU usage at around 125w and overclocked to 4.8ghz all core so I am pretty pleased with my result, and this is with a custom fan + pump curve.
I seem to have got some rare luck in life and my 5800x runs super cool stock or not but tested eco mode in bios for hell of it and it runs like 15 degrees plus even cooler lmao and fps difference is negligible. It is honestly a single toggle in Asus Bios so easy so worth trying also for others.
Awesome Dude. Did IT with my 5900x too. Awesome!!! I did an individual PBO CO for each clock and! set Voltage offset -0.075V too. Boost offset -150mhz. So i get 4.8 ghz boost and max 65 degree temps in games. In multi benches it even not hit 60 degree.
Nice video!! I can confirm on my 5800x the temperature decreased a lot, went from 75 to 61 on the Time Spy test, and in general, avoided boosting the coolers all the time (that was unpleasant). I'm using idCooling XT 224 as an Air cooler in a Cooler Master NR200p (with tempered glass) Thanks!
I was having bad temp problems but i swapped my case and added two 140mm fans in the front to blow air into the case. my temps lowered by at least 15 degrees with the gpu and cpu temps. the 5800x needs very good airflow. i was using a corsair 110q at first but i swapped it for the nzxt h5flow. best purchase of my life.
I just lower the Processor Power Management in power plan to minimum 80% and maximum 90% to get good temps. I've been doing this for about a year now and still get 35-40 when idling and 63-69 when under heavy load. Can anyone tell me if this is a bad idea or not? Haven't had any issues for over a month
Many thanks man, really good job. Fits me very well. Sometimes it still spikes to 66-70 during lots of tasks with M2 or SSD and playing at the same time, but quickly goes back to 55-60 and 35 celsius while idling. Thank you! Now trying your new settings from comments under video with -250 and -30 in CO
I installed a twin fan, twin tower cooler on my 5800x and I have yet to see my CPU temp go over 74°, no matter what I throw at it. I had the Wraith Prism on there before, but that just wasn't cutting it.
Bro you are crazy. I won't try this due to two causes: 1) The system could crash 2) The processor reaches only 4.6 Ghz in game instead 4.8!!! I found the best settings ever: PTT 120 TDC 78 EDC 130 and I put with the CO -5 to the gold and the silver cores and -15 to all the other cores. I recommend this if you want better temps and perfomance.
hey man I got a 5800x and have no idea what I’m doing but I’d love to have lower temps without sacrificing performance, how do you find out which cores are “gold”? and where are all those settings u taking about in asus bios?
PTT 115TDC 100 EDC 80 and CO to negative 20 on all cores, I'm doing fine with 55 degrees tops in full load, on anything. It would be lower if the damn GPU would not blow hot air in the case and some of it going through the AIO radiator. Oh well.
@@blkwolff in BIOS, hit F7 for Advanced mode, go to Ai Tweaker, Precision Boost Overdrive and you have all the settings there. Put Precision Boost Overdrive on Advanced, PBO Limits on Manual and then you can set the values for PPT Limit, TDC Limit, EDC Limit. Leave Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar to Auto, put Max CPU Boost Clock Override to 200Mhz (that will make the CPU boost to +200Mhz on top of the original boost clock - so a max of 4.9Ghz). Platform Thermal Throttle Limit - set it to 85. On Curve optimizer, set it to All cores - Negative - 20 (or test it with more, 22-25-even 30) until it crashes. When it crashes, set it back to the previous value where it did not crash. For my 5800x, 20 seems to work just fine.
Ogh nice, got my 5800x year ago, upgraded from 3600 and i have same motherboard like yours, had to play a lot with undervolting and negative offset for each core, it took me like a month, because i had to test each core at the time with small changes for longer usage, because with big changes it could pass any stress test and then at random day at random easy tasks it was crashing. I also blame gigabyte for overvolting cpu's at stock, other boards like msi doesn't allow zen 3 to run up to 1.5v at stock like our x570 does. Been stable for a year now, temps went from 90c limit(throttle) even with deepcool assassin III cooler, to 67c and silent barely audible fan speeds. Need to revisit my settings once more when i update bios. Thanks for video Bro!
I went from a Ryzen 5 3500 to a 5800x in one of my machines and out of the box with xmp enabled mine dropped 10+ degrees without doing anything, maybe I won the silicone lottery on that one but I lost with my 5900x in my other one. It runs a little hot now and then
Hi Mr.Beards and Chips, I am new to undervolting cpu, I just want low temperatures because my room gets too hot on idle and I don't play graphically intensive games. I followed your tutorial but I got stuck around the SoC/Uncore OC Mode settings, should I copy the same exact settings as yours or should I disable it? Also if I do copy your same exact settings do I need to change settings for the "NUMA nodes", "LN2 Mode", and ECO mode or do I keep it as default. Thanks!
ECO mode is the factory fast way to do this, but it won't mean that it's also the lowest that you can go and also not lose too much perf. If you enable ECO you don't need to do the rest. Don't touch LN2 mode since you are not doing -0°C OC. You can copy the SoC settings but if you have instability issues, you may need to tweak the settings some more. No two chips are the same when it comes to voltage values. My latest values right now i have -250 on Boost clocks and i was able to do -30 on Curve optimizer on all cores. It turns my CPU into a 4.6GHz chip but tops at around 1.2V (just for reference) But not all chips can handle the same values. You may need to experiment to see what goes for you
Interesting. I've never heard of anyone doing this. I am currently running my 5800x with +200 mhz PBO and curve optimizer from +10 to +30 depending on the core but will keep your method in mind if I decide to lower temperature.
Hello, how to identify bad cores in ryzen master?I have it running at -25 for all cores at once 4400mhz 1.2v.Cinebench R23 15065 78 degrees Celsius,GamerStorm Fryzen Cooler B550M AORUS PRO Motherboard,G.Skill Trident 3600mhz 2x8 Memory?
Depends on what you mean by bad cores. If you're talking about ones that can clock high, then the ones not listed by Ryzen master as gold star and dot will be the bad ones. If you're talking about cores that can be unstable by a negative curve optimizer then it's usually the ones that windows try to use, i.e. gold star, dot, and another one for misc. tasks. You need to check for WHEA errors, and use OCCT or core cycler, cinebench even, to check for instabilities.
Nice video i try sometime your settings but i am afraid to make changes at bios yet.. 👍 My question is : I run prime95 blend test cpu goes 85c and cooler is cold fins and pipes is that normal? I am sure cooler is attached properly. My setup is 5800x, b550-xe asus rog strix, noctua nh-d15s.
This video got me to update 1.5yrs worth of bios and chipset updates just to try this... even after all the bugs with agesa, but I don't believe I'll be affected by them. My 5800x was always right on the edge and I never even tried to push 5.05ghz, but it would do 4.85ghz all day by it's own for single thread tasks. I always hated that this 8c tried using the same power as the 12/16c with near zero benefit. If anyone wants to lower temps, power usage, and make their pc overall quieter I 100% recommend using a negative PBO offset. With rough testing, I went from a -50mhz(4.8ghz) offset to -150mhz(4.7ghz) offset and it drops temps by 10-12c in both shadow of the tomb raider, and minecraft. It also reduces power usage by 20w in shadow of the tomb raider, and 15w in minecraft. Temperature doesn't spike as hard, browsing the internet my core #5 stopped trying to push 12w and now only goes to 5w. Core voltage dynamically dropped from a max of 1.481v to 1.381v. I am at a -25 curve optimizer and will be trying for -30 shortly to see if the much lower stress will allow me to achieve that. There is definitely some performance loss as shadow of the tomb raider said I lost about 6% but thats a sample size of one with -50mhz, and one with -150mhz... this tuning goes hand in hand with my undervolt on my 3070ti. ~5% performance loss overall for a huge ~45% savings on energy and a bunch on heat.
In the name of efficiency i went -250 Mhz and -30 all cores on CO. It's a 4.6GHz chip all cores that runs cool and quiet. Loses very little to no performance. I'm an undervolt freak, i do not like OC, i like efficiency and a quiet PC.
@Beards & Chips I could try another 100mhz but I still bought the 5800x for high performance and pbo was already giving me more than what I asked for. I am already super impressed by the massive reductions in voltage, power used, and temperature just by simply dropping 100mhz. That said, I don't want to go so far as to lose a large amount of the performance I paid for. I know for my gpu undervolt I am losing ~5% FPS from stock but I gain a drop of ~15c and 100w. I could overclock it from stock and use no more power or heat but gain 5-10% FPS so I'm technically losing 10-15% gpu performance. However that should be a similar drop in cpu single core so it works well together. Thanks for sharing this video as it got me to enjoy my cpu even more.
@@Vultrux i bought the 5800X because i could, not because i really needed it. Now all i did with it was to make it as efficient as possible without losing too much performance. Keeping an eye on the FPS OSD will drive you nuts to be honest. A friend of mine with 4090 GPU was a bit disappointed about his 5800X 3D because it loses in front of Intel in some instances in a game.. a game where he already has 170 FPS at 4K. Imagine not being happy with 170 FPS.
@Beards & Chips fair since it's the first thing the system boots in, I just trusted that software cause I didn't wanted to screw up in the bios unless I find specific stuff I'm interested in
I have arctic freezer 2 280, 25degre in room.In games i have 58 - 60 max after 3 hours of gaming.But in cinebench instant 81. In prime95 i have spikes of 93 degres.No oc just stock.....This is not normal.
Excellent video my man, u were the only one that effectively provided a solution, and managed to cool my 5800x off, i just have one question: how did you left Ryzen master afterwards ? U just reseted it to default and stick to the BIOS config? or put another PBO related config in it ? cuz i have a 3060 TI and i feel ryzen master is kind of conflicting parameters ... Cheers from Brazil and keep up the good work !🫡
Glad it helped. I stopped using Ryzen Master. Once you setup everything in BIOS you don't need Ryzen Master, i guess you can leave the software on default just to monitor stuff but don't change things in it otherwise it will override your BIOS settings, i think. Haven't touched it in a while.
Man just my Windows crashed after a day with those settings, just realized today that all the settings get back to normal too, and some options are lost now and different and i didn't update my bios. The OC menu changed suddenly and Cpu Boost Clock Override when you put negative is no more.
@@Kenshin1870 The exact curve settings cannot be applied from one user to the other. We have different chip bins. I see people online that can go all cores -30, my CPU can't handle that, it will crash. You have to find your own specific curve for your chip.
@@Kenshin1870 IT doesn't matter. Chips behave differently, You have to figure out your particular settings for your CPU, that's why these things are not done from the factory because it would take an insane amount of time for the company to do it for every chip.
Someone can help me? I have the 5800x in a aorus b550 pro v2 and fractal design lumen s36, i get on idle 70° everytime i use that, there is summer and this year we get like 36° of temperature in home, but when i start play (generally i play black desert online) i get like 85-93° everytime. I have underclocked it and undervolted too, sometime change a little bit, but I still warning about that. Can someone help me?
@@BeardsChips i have dismount and mount another time and still same temps, idk if my lumen s36 broke or something else, i remember who before the summer come, my temps in game was max 70°
@@krisisgameplay5390 It might be that the pump has died and that's why you have high temps in idle. Do you have by any chance the possibility to test with another cooler? Or try to listen if the pump on your cooler is working?
@@BeardsChips the pump seems to work, on bios i can see working around 4k rpm, the pump and all pc fans are setted up to 100%, pretty noise but still those temps, the lumen's cooler are working around 1800rpm and I have 2 corsair standard fan on front and another standard fan on real pulling of the air, my case its a corsair 5000d airflow, aio cooler installed on the top
@@BeardsChips I will install right now a reddragon air cooler who i have there, and I tell u my temps. Actually with the lumen s36 ive undervolted to 1.304v and limited the cpu clock ratio to 3.4ghz, playing black desert online ive get right now 97°, but most of time around 80-92° (its not a too heavy game), and now who have closed the game slowly are coming around 65° in full idle, no one thing open, even on bios lowest temp i have seen on those days of test its 49°, in autumn i had around 34° with that watercooler
I have to disagree with the opinion that the 5800X has bad bins. It's the only vermeer chip with one die, the rest have 2 dies. It's easier to dissipate heat from a larger surface area. It may be that some 5800X are worse than others but that is the case with every chip....silicon lottery. My 5800X also runs hot on stock :)
It has bad bin. It's a chip that can't make it to servers and no other uses. Just look at 5950X which can run cooler than a 5800X despite having twice the cores. A quick google search on 5800X heat issues and you will be bombarded with results.
@@BeardsChips I know about the heat issues. That's not my point. The 5950X (also the 5900X) has twice the surface area to dissipate heat. It has 2 CCDs(or ccx whatever the core dies are called) but the 5800X only has one CCD. At least at stock settings they have the same 105 W TDP so...dissipating the same amount of heat from a 81mm2 die is not the same as dissipating the same heat spread across 2x81mm2 dies. That's why we are having trouble keeping it cool not because it's a bad bin.
@@BeardsChips Yeah from that point of view you're correct (better bins for the 5950X and 5900X because they can undervolt and OC much better) but I'm talking stock settings everything default so no undervolting, no messing with curve optimizer etc. Only the 5800X has the overheating problem under intensive multicore workloads compared to the others at stock settings. Anyway I've watched the video and your 5800X is a better bin then mine. I have two cores that won't do past -5 on curve optimizer and one that can't do past -15. The rest are at -20,-25...so yeah it can be worse lol.
@@BeardsChips I wish I knew this before i bought one. I knew something was up when I first booted the pc and the cpu was at 55 degrees celciusin the bios with a noctua air cooler.
Dude according to AMD itself anything up to 90 is absolutely fine. 75 degrees while gaming is absolutely nothing. Stop underclocking this CPU, I mean if you wanted lower performance you could have saved money by buying a lower tier one.
@@BeardsChips That is the dumbest comment ever considering they are the literal manufacturer of the chip. It's like Boeing making a plane, the user manual telling you the safe operating range, and then you disregard that cause you think you're smarter than the literal engineers who build it.
@@MultiSciGeek Wait, do you think that me expecting my PC to run cool and quiet is dumb? I do not contest the fact that the chip will survive running that hot. I DO NOT WANT IT to run that hot! I want it to run cool, i don't want my PC to turn my room into an oven, and i don't want to turn on the AC unit to counter my PC parts. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a cooler PC! You being ok to have your GPU and CPU run at 80C it's your problem alone, i don't have the desire for my PC to do that.
@@BeardsChips I bought a Ferrari so I can drive at the speed of a cycle... I mean ultimately it is your choice, do whatever you want, but it defies common sense imo.
@@MultiSciGeekGiven how you're the only one who complains about me doing this, begs to differ. I work every single day on my PC and i love that it's quiet! I don't chase numbers in synthetic benches, in fact i don't give a damn about them. I want a pleasant working environment and a quiet as fuck PC gives me that, and on the plus side it doesn't heat up my room.
4.65 on all cores is strong stuff. That's normal temp, the only way you might get that lower is to delid the CPU and make direct contact but since the chip is soldered you might actually destroy it in the process
To those who say, oh 90c is normal for this chip, na... maxing out at 194 degrees Fahrenheit for too long will crash your system, it's not okay... 100% load on my 5800x instantly raises it to it's max thermals and results in a crash. No matter the cooler I use. AMD should have never sold this CPU.
OC/Running out of spec is always a risk. But now seriously .. underclocking is not something that bricks a computer! Just reset the BIOS from the board's switch, should be back to normal.
@@Dzieciok0 Motherboard Manual, there should be a CLEAR CMOS pin/switch on the board. If it's a pin a simple short, with something metal, for around 5 seconds (while the PC is OFF) should reset the BIOS to factory settings. Read the manual of your Motherboard for the exact location of this.
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I usually dont comment but this dude lowered my temps by like 30 degress. My 5800x was making my nr200 case an oven by running at 90 degress but these tweaks helped by a landslide, thank you.
I have the 5800x and with my 240mm aio cooler I get a maximum temperature of 75 degrees Celsius at 100% CPU usage at around 125w and overclocked to 4.8ghz all core so I am pretty pleased with my result, and this is with a custom fan + pump curve.
Thanks for that it litteraly drop my temperatures by 20 degree while keeping the same performance awesome!👌
I seem to have got some rare luck in life and my 5800x runs super cool stock or not but tested eco mode in bios for hell of it and it runs like 15 degrees plus even cooler lmao and fps difference is negligible. It is honestly a single toggle in Asus Bios so easy so worth trying also for others.
Awesome Dude. Did IT with my 5900x too. Awesome!!! I did an individual PBO CO for each clock and! set Voltage offset -0.075V too. Boost offset -150mhz. So i get 4.8 ghz boost and max 65 degree temps in games. In multi benches it even not hit 60 degree.
Apparently it's ok to run this chip at 90 degrees. It's designed that way.
na, it's not okay. It really isn't.
@@StayMadNobodycares It is designed that way
@@Ghoulybro once it hits 70c it lowers clocks...
Nice video!! I can confirm on my 5800x the temperature decreased a lot, went from 75 to 61 on the Time Spy test, and in general, avoided boosting the coolers all the time (that was unpleasant). I'm using idCooling XT 224 as an Air cooler in a Cooler Master NR200p (with tempered glass) Thanks!
It really helped, thanks! I set exactly the same settings as in the video.
Thank you for the guide my cpu now runs very cool
I was having bad temp problems but i swapped my case and added two 140mm fans in the front to blow air into the case. my temps lowered by at least 15 degrees with the gpu and cpu temps. the 5800x needs very good airflow. i was using a corsair 110q at first but i swapped it for the nzxt h5flow. best purchase of my life.
Proven and tested it was working thanks!!
I just lower the Processor Power Management in power plan to minimum 80% and maximum 90% to get good temps. I've been doing this for about a year now and still get 35-40 when idling and 63-69 when under heavy load. Can anyone tell me if this is a bad idea or not? Haven't had any issues for over a month
Doing this you lock a cpu on predefined frequencies. In other words, auto boost will not work
Many thanks man, really good job. Fits me very well. Sometimes it still spikes to 66-70 during lots of tasks with M2 or SSD and playing at the same time, but quickly goes back to 55-60 and 35 celsius while idling. Thank you!
Now trying your new settings from comments under video with -250 and -30 in CO
You saved me bro
Good work❤
Another simple way to decrease temps are go to the throttle menu and put in 75c while the motherboard handles the power.
Yes and no. On auto the MB will give way lower clocks
I tried that with my 5900x and it didn't help mine that much
this very good !!!!!!!!!!! -20° impressive bios update .
Is it only for gigabyte ? I have msi b550 where to check this ?
I installed a twin fan, twin tower cooler on my 5800x and I have yet to see my CPU temp go over 74°, no matter what I throw at it. I had the Wraith Prism on there before, but that just wasn't cutting it.
CPU Boost Clock Override isn't it better to leave it "disable"?
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Bro you are crazy. I won't try this due to two causes:
1) The system could crash
2) The processor reaches only 4.6 Ghz in game instead 4.8!!!
I found the best settings ever: PTT 120 TDC 78 EDC 130 and I put with the CO -5 to the gold and the silver cores and -15 to all the other cores. I recommend this if you want better temps and perfomance.
hey man I got a 5800x and have no idea what I’m doing but I’d love to have lower temps without sacrificing performance, how do you find out which cores are “gold”? and where are all those settings u taking about in asus bios?
PTT 115TDC 100 EDC 80 and CO to negative 20 on all cores, I'm doing fine with 55 degrees tops in full load, on anything. It would be lower if the damn GPU would not blow hot air in the case and some of it going through the AIO radiator. Oh well.
@@blkwolff in BIOS, hit F7 for Advanced mode, go to Ai Tweaker, Precision Boost Overdrive and you have all the settings there. Put Precision Boost Overdrive on Advanced, PBO Limits on Manual and then you can set the values for PPT Limit, TDC Limit, EDC Limit. Leave Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar to Auto, put Max CPU Boost Clock Override to 200Mhz (that will make the CPU boost to +200Mhz on top of the original boost clock - so a max of 4.9Ghz). Platform Thermal Throttle Limit - set it to 85.
On Curve optimizer, set it to All cores - Negative - 20 (or test it with more, 22-25-even 30) until it crashes. When it crashes, set it back to the previous value where it did not crash. For my 5800x, 20 seems to work just fine.
Ogh nice, got my 5800x year ago, upgraded from 3600 and i have same motherboard like yours, had to play a lot with undervolting and negative offset for each core, it took me like a month, because i had to test each core at the time with small changes for longer usage, because with big changes it could pass any stress test and then at random day at random easy tasks it was crashing.
I also blame gigabyte for overvolting cpu's at stock, other boards like msi doesn't allow zen 3 to run up to 1.5v at stock like our x570 does. Been stable for a year now, temps went from 90c limit(throttle) even with deepcool assassin III cooler, to 67c and silent barely audible fan speeds. Need to revisit my settings once more when i update bios. Thanks for video Bro!
Glad i could be of help.
Hey could you please tell me you’re exact settings ? I have trouble with my 5800x. In battlefield 5 for example Im at 82 degrees very fast
I went from a Ryzen 5 3500 to a 5800x in one of my machines and out of the box with xmp enabled mine dropped 10+ degrees without doing anything, maybe I won the silicone lottery on that one but I lost with my 5900x in my other one. It runs a little hot now and then
Same dude feels like I got a banger lucky cpu runs lovely stock idle and gaming so it does happen
i updated to the latest bios on my aorus x570 master, but I'm not seeing any negative override ?
so do i
Good job on the 5800x temps.
In general you should undervolt the CPU and GPU and let the auto-boosts do the rest, at least on modern systems.
Hi Mr.Beards and Chips, I am new to undervolting cpu, I just want low temperatures because my room gets too hot on idle and I don't play graphically intensive games. I followed your tutorial but I got stuck around the SoC/Uncore OC Mode settings, should I copy the same exact settings as yours or should I disable it? Also if I do copy your same exact settings do I need to change settings for the "NUMA nodes", "LN2 Mode", and ECO mode or do I keep it as default. Thanks!
ECO mode is the factory fast way to do this, but it won't mean that it's also the lowest that you can go and also not lose too much perf.
If you enable ECO you don't need to do the rest.
Don't touch LN2 mode since you are not doing -0°C OC.
You can copy the SoC settings but if you have instability issues, you may need to tweak the settings some more.
No two chips are the same when it comes to voltage values.
My latest values right now i have -250 on Boost clocks and i was able to do -30 on Curve optimizer on all cores.
It turns my CPU into a 4.6GHz chip but tops at around 1.2V (just for reference) But not all chips can handle the same values. You may need to experiment to see what goes for you
You saved me from OCD headaches and I saved your video from having 666 likes
Good deal!
Interesting. I've never heard of anyone doing this. I am currently running my 5800x with +200 mhz PBO and curve optimizer from +10 to +30 depending on the core but will keep your method in mind if I decide to lower temperature.
My setting is losing a bit of ST power but gains MT. in CB R32 for example it goes around 16000 points.
Hello, how to identify bad cores in ryzen master?I have it running at -25 for all cores at once 4400mhz 1.2v.Cinebench R23 15065 78 degrees Celsius,GamerStorm Fryzen Cooler B550M AORUS PRO Motherboard,G.Skill Trident 3600mhz 2x8 Memory?
I’d like to know as well
Depends on what you mean by bad cores. If you're talking about ones that can clock high, then the ones not listed by Ryzen master as gold star and dot will be the bad ones. If you're talking about cores that can be unstable by a negative curve optimizer then it's usually the ones that windows try to use, i.e. gold star, dot, and another one for misc. tasks. You need to check for WHEA errors, and use OCCT or core cycler, cinebench even, to check for instabilities.
How can i config max override on b450 aorus elite , i cannot see the function
thank you for this 🙏
Hey i have a ryzen 7 5800X and we cant get a new cooler. any help? 91C btw
Thank you, from 80 to 55 🥳
Nice video i try sometime your settings but i am afraid to make changes at bios yet.. 👍
My question is :
I run prime95 blend test cpu goes 85c and cooler is cold fins and pipes is that normal? I am sure cooler is attached properly.
My setup is 5800x, b550-xe asus rog strix, noctua nh-d15s.
Ryzen CPU has very small chip size. Boootle neck is transfer heat from chip to CPU cover. Thats why CPU so hot and cooler so cold
bro u have same problem but with GPU.. temps locked on 86C and fan is blowing cold air.DId u find a solution?
i mean I have same problem* sorry
This video got me to update 1.5yrs worth of bios and chipset updates just to try this... even after all the bugs with agesa, but I don't believe I'll be affected by them. My 5800x was always right on the edge and I never even tried to push 5.05ghz, but it would do 4.85ghz all day by it's own for single thread tasks. I always hated that this 8c tried using the same power as the 12/16c with near zero benefit. If anyone wants to lower temps, power usage, and make their pc overall quieter I 100% recommend using a negative PBO offset. With rough testing, I went from a -50mhz(4.8ghz) offset to -150mhz(4.7ghz) offset and it drops temps by 10-12c in both shadow of the tomb raider, and minecraft. It also reduces power usage by 20w in shadow of the tomb raider, and 15w in minecraft. Temperature doesn't spike as hard, browsing the internet my core #5 stopped trying to push 12w and now only goes to 5w. Core voltage dynamically dropped from a max of 1.481v to 1.381v. I am at a -25 curve optimizer and will be trying for -30 shortly to see if the much lower stress will allow me to achieve that. There is definitely some performance loss as shadow of the tomb raider said I lost about 6% but thats a sample size of one with -50mhz, and one with -150mhz... this tuning goes hand in hand with my undervolt on my 3070ti. ~5% performance loss overall for a huge ~45% savings on energy and a bunch on heat.
In the name of efficiency i went -250 Mhz and -30 all cores on CO. It's a 4.6GHz chip all cores that runs cool and quiet. Loses very little to no performance.
I'm an undervolt freak, i do not like OC, i like efficiency and a quiet PC.
@Beards & Chips I could try another 100mhz but I still bought the 5800x for high performance and pbo was already giving me more than what I asked for. I am already super impressed by the massive reductions in voltage, power used, and temperature just by simply dropping 100mhz. That said, I don't want to go so far as to lose a large amount of the performance I paid for. I know for my gpu undervolt I am losing ~5% FPS from stock but I gain a drop of ~15c and 100w. I could overclock it from stock and use no more power or heat but gain 5-10% FPS so I'm technically losing 10-15% gpu performance. However that should be a similar drop in cpu single core so it works well together.
Thanks for sharing this video as it got me to enjoy my cpu even more.
@@Vultrux i bought the 5800X because i could, not because i really needed it. Now all i did with it was to make it as efficient as possible without losing too much performance.
Keeping an eye on the FPS OSD will drive you nuts to be honest.
A friend of mine with 4090 GPU was a bit disappointed about his 5800X 3D because it loses in front of Intel in some instances in a game.. a game where he already has 170 FPS at 4K.
Imagine not being happy with 170 FPS.
This would be a great alternative to people who don't like to use ClockTuner for Ryzen to be honest, nice findings 👍
I like to do my tweaking in BIOS , i avoid software as much as i can.
@Beards & Chips fair since it's the first thing the system boots in, I just trusted that software cause I didn't wanted to screw up in the bios unless I find specific stuff I'm interested in
Temperature was 90 degree before and now
I have arctic freezer 2 280, 25degre in room.In games i have 58 - 60 max after 3 hours of gaming.But in cinebench instant 81. In prime95 i have spikes of 93 degres.No oc just stock.....This is not normal.
Excellent video my man, u were the only one that effectively provided a solution, and managed to cool my 5800x off, i just have one question: how did you left Ryzen master afterwards ? U just reseted it to default and stick to the BIOS config? or put another PBO related config in it ? cuz i have a 3060 TI and i feel ryzen master is kind of conflicting parameters ...
Cheers from Brazil and keep up the good work !🫡
Glad it helped. I stopped using Ryzen Master. Once you setup everything in BIOS you don't need Ryzen Master, i guess you can leave the software on default just to monitor stuff but don't change things in it otherwise it will override your BIOS settings, i think. Haven't touched it in a while.
This also fix the pikes of temperature? I start windows at 45 them i just open Mozilla and pum to 60 in one flash and them return slowly to 45 again.
In theory it should. But it also depends on your cooler/ chip bin quality. I have seen friends with the same lower temps but with no tweaks ..
Man just my Windows crashed after a day with those settings, just realized today that all the settings get back to normal too, and some options are lost now and different and i didn't update my bios. The OC menu changed suddenly and Cpu Boost Clock Override when you put negative is no more.
@@Kenshin1870 The exact curve settings cannot be applied from one user to the other.
We have different chip bins.
I see people online that can go all cores -30, my CPU can't handle that, it will crash. You have to find your own specific curve for your chip.
@@BeardsChips i am usin Ryzen 7 5800x with gigabyte x570 aorus master
@@Kenshin1870 IT doesn't matter. Chips behave differently, You have to figure out your particular settings for your CPU, that's why these things are not done from the factory because it would take an insane amount of time for the company to do it for every chip.
Someone can help me? I have the 5800x in a aorus b550 pro v2 and fractal design lumen s36, i get on idle 70° everytime i use that, there is summer and this year we get like 36° of temperature in home, but when i start play (generally i play black desert online) i get like 85-93° everytime. I have underclocked it and undervolted too, sometime change a little bit, but I still warning about that. Can someone help me?
70°C on idle is high and it means that your cooler is not mounted properly.
@@BeardsChips i have dismount and mount another time and still same temps, idk if my lumen s36 broke or something else, i remember who before the summer come, my temps in game was max 70°
@@krisisgameplay5390 It might be that the pump has died and that's why you have high temps in idle.
Do you have by any chance the possibility to test with another cooler?
Or try to listen if the pump on your cooler is working?
@@BeardsChips the pump seems to work, on bios i can see working around 4k rpm, the pump and all pc fans are setted up to 100%, pretty noise but still those temps, the lumen's cooler are working around 1800rpm and I have 2 corsair standard fan on front and another standard fan on real pulling of the air, my case its a corsair 5000d airflow, aio cooler installed on the top
@@BeardsChips I will install right now a reddragon air cooler who i have there, and I tell u my temps. Actually with the lumen s36 ive undervolted to 1.304v and limited the cpu clock ratio to 3.4ghz, playing black desert online ive get right now 97°, but most of time around 80-92° (its not a too heavy game), and now who have closed the game slowly are coming around 65° in full idle, no one thing open, even on bios lowest temp i have seen on those days of test its 49°, in autumn i had around 34° with that watercooler
Mine runs on Timespy at 74temp max with allcore at 4.86 ghz and single at 5.09mhz
im always interested in fan speed
Right? Voltages etc. dont matter that much if the System is screaming at 100% Fan speed to cool it 10-20° lower then before
I have noctua NH-d15 and get 89 degrees celcius can sombody help me
I have to disagree with the opinion that the 5800X has bad bins. It's the only vermeer chip with one die, the rest have 2 dies. It's easier to dissipate heat from a larger surface area. It may be that some 5800X are worse than others but that is the case with every chip....silicon lottery. My 5800X also runs hot on stock :)
It has bad bin. It's a chip that can't make it to servers and no other uses.
Just look at 5950X which can run cooler than a 5800X despite having twice the cores.
A quick google search on 5800X heat issues and you will be bombarded with results.
@@BeardsChips I know about the heat issues. That's not my point. The 5950X (also the 5900X) has twice the surface area to dissipate heat. It has 2 CCDs(or ccx whatever the core dies are called) but the 5800X only has one CCD. At least at stock settings they have the same 105 W TDP so...dissipating the same amount of heat from a 81mm2 die is not the same as dissipating the same heat spread across 2x81mm2 dies. That's why we are having trouble keeping it cool not because it's a bad bin.
I pointed out the 5950X because it can hit the same clocks as 5800X but at lower voltages :)
@@BeardsChips Yeah from that point of view you're correct (better bins for the 5950X and 5900X because they can undervolt and OC much better) but I'm talking stock settings everything default so no undervolting, no messing with curve optimizer etc. Only the 5800X has the overheating problem under intensive multicore workloads compared to the others at stock settings.
Anyway I've watched the video and your 5800X is a better bin then mine. I have two cores that won't do past -5 on curve optimizer and one that can't do past -15. The rest are at -20,-25...so yeah it can be worse lol.
@@BeardsChips I wish I knew this before i bought one. I knew something was up when I first booted the pc and the cpu was at 55 degrees celciusin the bios with a noctua air cooler.
Are you Romanian? The accent.😄
Very Romanian :))
Interesting video.
gracias mi amigo
Nice
Dude according to AMD itself anything up to 90 is absolutely fine. 75 degrees while gaming is absolutely nothing. Stop underclocking this CPU, I mean if you wanted lower performance you could have saved money by buying a lower tier one.
AMD can claim what ever they want, i want my PC to run cool and quiet, so thank you but i won't take AMD's words for this.
@@BeardsChips That is the dumbest comment ever considering they are the literal manufacturer of the chip. It's like Boeing making a plane, the user manual telling you the safe operating range, and then you disregard that cause you think you're smarter than the literal engineers who build it.
@@MultiSciGeek Wait, do you think that me expecting my PC to run cool and quiet is dumb?
I do not contest the fact that the chip will survive running that hot. I DO NOT WANT IT to run that hot! I want it to run cool, i don't want my PC to turn my room into an oven, and i don't want to turn on the AC unit to counter my PC parts.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to have a cooler PC!
You being ok to have your GPU and CPU run at 80C it's your problem alone, i don't have the desire for my PC to do that.
@@BeardsChips I bought a Ferrari so I can drive at the speed of a cycle... I mean ultimately it is your choice, do whatever you want, but it defies common sense imo.
@@MultiSciGeekGiven how you're the only one who complains about me doing this, begs to differ.
I work every single day on my PC and i love that it's quiet! I don't chase numbers in synthetic benches, in fact i don't give a damn about them.
I want a pleasant working environment and a quiet as fuck PC gives me that, and on the plus side it doesn't heat up my room.
Hitting 4.65ghz in all cores but 90°c on a custom loop
4.65 on all cores is strong stuff. That's normal temp, the only way you might get that lower is to delid the CPU and make direct contact but since the chip is soldered you might actually destroy it in the process
@@BeardsChips How did you achieve 4.65 on 6x°C temps, thats incredible
To those who say, oh 90c is normal for this chip, na... maxing out at 194 degrees Fahrenheit for too long will crash your system, it's not okay... 100% load on my 5800x instantly raises it to it's max thermals and results in a crash. No matter the cooler I use. AMD should have never sold this CPU.
Go back to win 10, you will see temperature differece
Полюбасу русский. 🤣🤣🤣
thx for this my pc is broken now i cant run it
OC/Running out of spec is always a risk. But now seriously .. underclocking is not something that bricks a computer!
Just reset the BIOS from the board's switch, should be back to normal.
@@BeardsChips how i can reset my bios?
@@Dzieciok0 Motherboard Manual, there should be a CLEAR CMOS pin/switch on the board.
If it's a pin a simple short, with something metal, for around 5 seconds (while the PC is OFF) should reset the BIOS to factory settings.
Read the manual of your Motherboard for the exact location of this.
@@BeardsChips thx for info