put one of these through a rifled barrel with a scope mount and you have yourself a not-a-rifle rifle. Pretty popular in states that prohibit rifle hunting on public land when you need to take longer shots.
@@ItsCrap97if you wanna jam your shit. Why restrict a barrel for a solid slug projectile that fills out the barrel to the point of rifling? This isn't a bofors system.
They are designed for different barrels. Riffled barrels shoot sabot type ammo. Rifled slugs are made for smooth barrels and will fire from any choke but are best from modified.
I love the versatility of shotguns thanks to their ammo. Need to kill a middle sized beast? Hit it with the big pellets. Need to kill a whole flock of birds? Pepper them with the tiny pellets. Need long range or to kill a really solid target? Use a slug. Want to set stuff ablaze? Get dragon's breath. Need to not kill anything? There's rubber rounds. Gotta blow something up? Well believe it or not there's grenade shotgun shells. Wanna remember grandpa? Well you can have his ashes pressed into pellets or a slug. Whatever you need to accomplish, there's probabaly a shotgun shell that can do it.
That new slug is only around 50 grains lighter but travels 500+ fps faster. That's a lot of muzzle energy and I imagine your shoulder won't like it much 😂
Recoil is proportional to momentum. Higher KE is often lower momentum than a slower bigger bullet, or in general a lighter bullet being less mass will impose leas recoil, but some cartridge load configurations happen to be optimax, or not, and YMMV. In the old Remington Accelerator saboted rounds, it was a 55 grain .223 in the mouth of a .308 or .30-06 and i think they might have pushed 4000fps in the long 63mm case. Whatever the spin was, it was, i presume they managed jacket thicknesses and all that to avoid exploding. Dont know how popular they were but they were in the caralog in the 80s. If all you want is KE and short range then I wonder if the Thunderzap principle would work with shotgun rounds either shells or slugs. Past 10ft not such a thing. More for airliners and phone booths.
The most popular modern shotguns allow quick changing of barrels. Smoothbore for shot, rifled for slugs. The rifled barrels mount rifle sights. I picked up an Ithaca-made rifled barrel for my Browning BPS. Shooting slugs produces a big thump on both ends.
@@figo3554not at all. Rifling minimally affects the grouping of scattershot and the pellets themselves don't wear the barrel much more than a solid projectile.
This round is old news I’ve been shooting it for over 5 years now. Its actually made for Remington by Hornady. And you need a rifled barrel to shoot these where as the other slug you have is already rifled for a smooth bored barrel.
Hornady has a 2/3" 300gr sst sabot that they claim will print 2" groups at 100 yards. I dont know if thats true but I did use one to take a deer well passed 100 yards on one occasion. Wound channel was insane and the slug passed completely through and I never found it. 24" slug guns slinging sabots are the best way ive seen to instantly put the lights out on deer inside 150 yards. As a side note, the velocity of these sabot rounds can generate some pretty sharp recoil so invest in a decent mount if you want to scope your rifled shotgun.
It is definitely an incredible slug! It makes phenomenal impact and creates a horrific amount of shock when it strikes any medium and large game animals in North America!
Confirmed in a 2008 article in American Hunter by Bryce Towsley, the core is pure lead bonded to the copper jacket so the two can't separate. The "power port" holes in the ballistic tip are there to manipulate drag and optimize the center of pressure and center of gravity relationship for more accurate flight. There were a couple of recalls of the accutip slug due to incorrect propellant used in some loads. I think it got discontinued recently?
As always, what purpose are you looking for? A smooth bore firing a hot slug or combo round id devastating to 50yds and a bit beyond w/practice. Rifled with these slugs in case you need a flat shooting large slug getting there quick to extended ranges, say out in open areas. Again, with practice. I used a shotgun for mil/police work with both hot and tactical slugs/buckshot in a smooth bore for many years. There is never a doubt if you hit what you are shooting at with any slug. You can hear and see it. My brother still carries a 12ga w/3" slugs in Alaska for rogue moose/bears where we grew up. In thick areas you want as much knock down as you can get. He uses these and some other hardened sluds for a lot of penetration. We rarely went into the bush w/o our shotguns( They work well for protection and getting food of all sizes)
So a standard 2 3/4 rifled slug travels at around 1600 fps cause for a while I was worried about the pressure over pressuring my shotgun barrel (I shoot a Stevens 520 riot shotgun from 1908) the lowest power slugs I have found were 1550 fps
Doesn’t sabot imply a solid (tungsten or other hard metal) projectile that relies on kinetic energy? No google so please correct me but how is this a sabot slug?
A sabot is a casing that surrounds a projectile, allowing a smaller projectile to be fired through a larger bore. It has nothing to do with the projectile itself. Edit: If I had to guess, I think you're thinking in terms of tank rounds like APFSDS (armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot). Which is in fact a kinetic energy projectile made out of hard metal. The projectile itself is a pretty thin rod with fins on the end travelling at an incredibly high velocity. However, the diameter of the projectile is much smaller than the diameter of the bore of the tanks cannon, so that and the addition of the fixed stabilizing fins prevent the round from sealing against the inside of the bore of the cannon, hence why the sabot is necessary. The sabot is the correct size of bore of the cannon and sourrounds the projectile. It then falls off of the projectile after leaving the muzzle (discarding sabot). The same concept applies to small arms. In this case you can see the sabot when he shows the inside of the shot shell and the projectile. It's a white piece of plastic that surrounds the projectile itself.
@@theblindsniper9130 - He does do new ammunition reviews but not only that, he accepts homemade ammo that he loads into shells and shoots at targets w/ and some of them are very, very effective... Have you ever wanted a giant pellet for your shotgun¿? He has them and many other things that I can't even begin to be able to explain to you... I highly suggest his channel if you like making your own rounds at home. Good Luck.... lol
I had one of the sabots you shown in the picture bounce on a deer at 2 yards there’s a video of it on my channel!!! Ended up shooting her the next year with archery equipment!!!!
I only shot the 1700fps 20 gauge ones and they are legit .50 cal slugs and dropped a 186lb boar hog in his tracks! Also smoked a 130lb doe with one and she didn’t take a step either. Very very impressed with these rounds and I shot both of those with a H&R single shot youth model 20ga that I turned into a boat/brush gun for quick little swamp hunts!
I never realized how powerful shotgun slugs were until I unleashed a regular 2 3/4 Forrester slug through my Mossberg 590 and it made a nice 70 caliber hole straight through a 4×4 at 100 yards.
These things are devastating I use it for deer hunting in South Jersey have an old Remington 1100 their rifle barrel and a 3x9 scope on it it's a tax driver at 100 yd
I used to hunt with that type of round in a 20 gauge slug gun from savage. Killed a bunch of deer with it. Actually killed my first buck with it in Illinois at 169 yards
put one of these through a rifled barrel with a scope mount and you have yourself a not-a-rifle rifle. Pretty popular in states that prohibit rifle hunting on public land when you need to take longer shots.
Oh yes, very useful
Need a rifled barrel to shoot the sabot properly
Not properly but to get the most from it
Or a choke
@@ItsCrap97if you wanna jam your shit. Why restrict a barrel for a solid slug projectile that fills out the barrel to the point of rifling? This isn't a bofors system.
@@WillM1776 Thank you😂
@@psychocomytic9778 Just like he said I was obviously speaking about a rifled choke. You know those meant for slugs?
I wanna see an APFSDS shotgun shell.
Apparently I'm not the only one 😁
depleted uranium 🤤
Taofladermous (cant spell it) his channel has one i think, people send him wild stuff theyve invented in
flechette?
@@catritonix thats just buckshot replaced with arrows, APFSDS is one dense arrow carried by a sabot.
They are designed for different barrels. Riffled barrels shoot sabot type ammo. Rifled slugs are made for smooth barrels and will fire from any choke but are best from modified.
wrong.
@@hansgrueber8169literally google it, mouth-breather.
I love the versatility of shotguns thanks to their ammo. Need to kill a middle sized beast? Hit it with the big pellets. Need to kill a whole flock of birds? Pepper them with the tiny pellets. Need long range or to kill a really solid target? Use a slug. Want to set stuff ablaze? Get dragon's breath. Need to not kill anything? There's rubber rounds. Gotta blow something up? Well believe it or not there's grenade shotgun shells. Wanna remember grandpa? Well you can have his ashes pressed into pellets or a slug.
Whatever you need to accomplish, there's probabaly a shotgun shell that can do it.
And everyone uses them from hunters, cops, sad musicians, door breachers
Exactly that's why I bought me an AR12. It's a versatile I can do anything with it.
@@cheifbrownrabbit3986bruh "sad musicians" is dirty 💀🤣
@@cheifbrownrabbit3986you did Kurt dirty
@@stonefaced4578 I still got Courtney
That new slug is only around 50 grains lighter but travels 500+ fps faster. That's a lot of muzzle energy and I imagine your shoulder won't like it much 😂
Recoil is proportional to momentum. Higher KE is often lower momentum than a slower bigger bullet, or in general a lighter bullet being less mass will impose leas recoil, but some cartridge load configurations happen to be optimax, or not, and YMMV.
In the old Remington Accelerator saboted rounds, it was a 55 grain .223 in the mouth of a .308 or .30-06 and i think they might have pushed 4000fps in the long 63mm case. Whatever the spin was, it was, i presume they managed jacket thicknesses and all that to avoid exploding. Dont know how popular they were but they were in the caralog in the 80s.
If all you want is KE and short range then I wonder if the Thunderzap principle would work with shotgun rounds either shells or slugs. Past 10ft not such a thing. More for airliners and phone booths.
The most popular modern shotguns allow quick changing of barrels. Smoothbore for shot, rifled for slugs. The rifled barrels mount rifle sights. I picked up an Ithaca-made rifled barrel for my Browning BPS. Shooting slugs produces a big thump on both ends.
Don't the sabot slugs require a rifled barrel? I can be wrong as my area of knowledge is firearms, not the ammunition.
Yes, if you want to get any real accuracy from them
Kinda defeats the point of a shotgun to a degree if you have to rifle it imo
@@figo3554How so? Slugs and sabots are singular projectiles. What you’re talking about is the point of buckshot.
@kingkrab5138 well what I'm saying is that if you rifle it, doesn't it make it kinda difficult to use typical shotgun rounds?
@@figo3554not at all. Rifling minimally affects the grouping of scattershot and the pellets themselves don't wear the barrel much more than a solid projectile.
There was a recall on these. Check your lot numbers to make sure you don't have the ones that detonate your shotgun.
I shot a buck with that slug. It was definitely insane. It didn't go through but it instantly killed the deer. It was dead before it hit the ground.
Not going to lie that's what I use. Slugs = Insta-kill
Not going through is mostly better. Use all the energy and safer. Less holes for bleeding out if not an instant kill though.
@fixerupperer yea you want it to stop inside and dump all its energy..which it totally did. Huge 10pnt buck and it sat down and fell over. Instant.
This round is old news I’ve been shooting it for over 5 years now. Its actually made for Remington by Hornady. And you need a rifled barrel to shoot these where as the other slug you have is already rifled for a smooth bored barrel.
Hornady has a 2/3" 300gr sst sabot that they claim will print 2" groups at 100 yards. I dont know if thats true but I did use one to take a deer well passed 100 yards on one occasion. Wound channel was insane and the slug passed completely through and I never found it. 24" slug guns slinging sabots are the best way ive seen to instantly put the lights out on deer inside 150 yards. As a side note, the velocity of these sabot rounds can generate some pretty sharp recoil so invest in a decent mount if you want to scope your rifled shotgun.
It is definitely an incredible slug! It makes phenomenal impact and creates a horrific amount of shock when it strikes any medium and large game animals in North America!
Better compare the two to check the results on damage accuracy distance the works
I found one of those Remington acutip slugs in the woods once. I cut it open and that thing is a massive chunk of lead
Confirmed in a 2008 article in American Hunter by Bryce Towsley, the core is pure lead bonded to the copper jacket so the two can't separate. The "power port" holes in the ballistic tip are there to manipulate drag and optimize the center of pressure and center of gravity relationship for more accurate flight.
There were a couple of recalls of the accutip slug due to incorrect propellant used in some loads. I think it got discontinued recently?
@@JinKee I don’t watch 12 gauge slug availability or if there discontinued. They might be.
Bub these have been out for years. Along with many other sabot type slugs. You live under a rock?
Another great reason why a shotgun is a great purchase when you are on a budget.
As always, what purpose are you looking for? A smooth bore firing a hot slug or combo round id devastating to 50yds and a bit beyond w/practice. Rifled with these slugs in case you need a flat shooting large slug getting there quick to extended ranges, say out in open areas. Again, with practice. I used a shotgun for mil/police work with both hot and tactical slugs/buckshot in a smooth bore for many years. There is never a doubt if you hit what you are shooting at with any slug. You can hear and see it. My brother still carries a 12ga w/3" slugs in Alaska for rogue moose/bears where we grew up. In thick areas you want as much knock down as you can get. He uses these and some other hardened sluds for a lot of penetration. We rarely went into the bush w/o our shotguns( They work well for protection and getting food of all sizes)
I want some in 3 1/2" Mag loads
Doesn't the term "bonded" mean that the it is in fact not a solid copper projectile?
This guy knows nothing about that 870 he’s using it that accutip slug. He should stick to knitting or playing dress up based on his voice alone
the Winchester slugs are also awesome, 400grains.
Remmington: parry this ye filthy casual
Chinese weather balloon: oh shit...
Finally real life shotguns will match the unerring accuracy of Call of Duty shotgun snipers.
Or a rifled choke tube. Should be very accurate with the proper set up and good out to 200 yards.
Do you have to have a rifled barrel or can i shoot them out of my single shot smooth barrel?
If its bonded, its lead core
Those Accu Tips will sometimes make a strange whistle when fired at longer distances. Anyone else ever heard it?
Already got all I need & looking for more but 3" not 2& 3/4 in.
How does the plastic tip work?
Googly-Eyed sabot round
Do they make them in .410? If so load them in the Judge
Thatd be sick in a judge
So a standard 2 3/4 rifled slug travels at around 1600 fps cause for a while I was worried about the pressure over pressuring my shotgun barrel (I shoot a Stevens 520 riot shotgun from 1908) the lowest power slugs I have found were 1550 fps
You can get some Winchester super x 3in 1oz slug moving at like 1700 fps..for smoth or rifled shotguns
Wait til Hornady comes out with sabot flechette deer rounds 👀
All talkie no testy?
Rifled barrel or smooth bore . Sabot slugs has no rifling.
For accuracy, sabots should be paired with a rifled barreled shotgun
The Sabo 385 gr slug is.50 inch. Through a rifled barrel, it becomes a 50 cal rifle.
Are shotguns rifled? The barrels
Bro sounds like a professional sports commentator 💀
Lmao thank you
Taufledamaus has a few packs of them coming up soon.
I can't wait to see the performance at distance.
Very cool
Yeah, that’s not a fair comparison. You need a different shotgun barrel for each of those slugs (smooth vs rifled).
Or could fire a steel sabot slug, iirc it's a steel .50BMG round with an inverted tip
No demonstration?
Shotgun Slugs: When you want to fire a .72 caliber sledge hammer without a handle.
Doesn’t sabot imply a solid (tungsten or other hard metal) projectile that relies on kinetic energy? No google so please correct me but how is this a sabot slug?
A sabot is a casing that surrounds a projectile, allowing a smaller projectile to be fired through a larger bore. It has nothing to do with the projectile itself.
Edit: If I had to guess, I think you're thinking in terms of tank rounds like APFSDS (armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot). Which is in fact a kinetic energy projectile made out of hard metal. The projectile itself is a pretty thin rod with fins on the end travelling at an incredibly high velocity. However, the diameter of the projectile is much smaller than the diameter of the bore of the tanks cannon, so that and the addition of the fixed stabilizing fins prevent the round from sealing against the inside of the bore of the cannon, hence why the sabot is necessary. The sabot is the correct size of bore of the cannon and sourrounds the projectile. It then falls off of the projectile after leaving the muzzle (discarding sabot).
The same concept applies to small arms. In this case you can see the sabot when he shows the inside of the shot shell and the projectile. It's a white piece of plastic that surrounds the projectile itself.
@@codydavenport8429yes , and you explained it very well
The Blind Sniper needs to imagine long ranges.
Got some sweet long range content coming your way
I tried these in a 500 rifles barrel and they keyholes like crazy. They work for some people but you need the right rate of twist to stabilize them
Taofladermouse would approve!
You can only fire those out of a rifled shotgun barrel, you can't use them in a smooth bore.
I'm guessing you have never watched TAOFLADERMAUS.... 😂
Ill see if he has an episode on these
@@theblindsniper9130 - He does do new ammunition reviews but not only that, he accepts homemade ammo that he loads into shells and shoots at targets w/ and some of them are very, very effective... Have you ever wanted a giant pellet for your shotgun¿? He has them and many other things that I can't even begin to be able to explain to you... I highly suggest his channel if you like making your own rounds at home. Good Luck.... lol
Even a rifled choke will not spin these slugs to their full potential. Rifled barrel is what the intent was behind sabot shotgun slugs.
What gun Is this
If only you could still find accutips. Most accurate slug ever!!
I got a case of 20 ga Accutips in. My cost $19/5. Seen then for 40.00+ at the shows.
Looks like Warhammer 40k Bolter Acid Rounds
I wonder if they have them in 20ga.
That would be sweet. Imagine these in 410
If it was solid copper they would say lead free somewhere on fhe package as its a good selling point/marketing point
If it is bonded it has a lead core bonded means the jacket and the core are bonded by a type of crimping process.
You’re several years behind.
I had one of the sabots you shown in the picture bounce on a deer at 2 yards there’s a video of it on my channel!!! Ended up shooting her the next year with archery equipment!!!!
That's just a hornady bullet with a green ballistic tip. I'd choose hornady over this. To each their own though.
I was gonna say. I have couple boxes of those and they're somethin else.
437.5 grains is 1 oz. 385 is pretty close.
I only shot the 1700fps 20 gauge ones and they are legit .50 cal slugs and dropped a 186lb boar hog in his tracks! Also smoked a 130lb doe with one and she didn’t take a step either. Very very impressed with these rounds and I shot both of those with a H&R single shot youth model 20ga that I turned into a boat/brush gun for quick little swamp hunts!
I've got the savage M210 rifled bbl. Its petty much an M110 with a 12ga bbl😊
Turns your shotgun into a large bore rifle, kind of.
The Shotshell slug looks pretty good ! Is it accurate? You have to shoot it and compare and show the viewer how it affects on the long range. 🤔👍
I don’t see those bullet where to find it 😮
I always found good luck with my Hornady SST 12ga 300 grain. I used an older Mossberg 500 with rifled barrel. Happy and safe hunting everybody!
Sabots require a rifled barrel though. Different beast
Can't get more recoil for less accuracy than with slugs. So glad my state allowed some rifles for public land hunting.
Federal makes a 450g rifles slug
We just call em baby missiles😈😈
I like the remington copper solid hollow point both 20ga and 12ga
Looks like a bp 50 miniball
Can you cut it open next time and show us the wad, what the powder looks like, a full view of the projectile?
I wonder if they make something like these with a plastic wad attached to the slug to act as fletching...?
Which they still made golden sabots
They should make these for .410 gauge shotguns that have a bolt action.
Definitely need a rifled barrel. I’ve shot the Barnes version and they keyhole immediately.
def use a rifled barrel, i slung one thru my 870 tactical, with smooth barrel, and it literally was an unguided missile. stay safe
You dont need to be a better shot you just need to shoot more bullets!
@@theblindsniper9130 hahaha, maybe my shotgun should be beltfed....
@@theblindsniper9130is that a Borderlands reference???
I never realized how powerful shotgun slugs were until I unleashed a regular 2 3/4 Forrester slug through my Mossberg 590 and it made a nice 70 caliber hole straight through a 4×4 at 100 yards.
Yeah people tend to overlook them. That's also not even considering the 3in magnum ones, or the 1.25oz ones.
Normal slugs are really just fine compared to sabot slugs. You'd really be wasting your money buying a rifled shotgun
Very annoying when people try to educate you on their speculation.
So 385 grains? That’s less than 437. 437gr = 1oz. I’m not very impressed. Especially with the amount of felt recoil that comes with the extra fps
I'm on acid and this shii fireee
Lmao glad you had fun
I hope it whistles like a nerf ball.
I've got some Super Sabot 3" 1oz
These things are devastating I use it for deer hunting in South Jersey have an old Remington 1100 their rifle barrel and a 3x9 scope on it it's a tax driver at 100 yd
I don't know why you want to drive taxes, but good for you.
People at Remington be watching taofledermaus lol
They suck. They severely lack takedown power.
Don’t shoot for the video whatever you do…
Hard to show something off AND do live fire in a 60 second video
@@theblindsniper9130 less talking more action! 😂
@@_DB.COOPER Lol you would like my recent shorts, I actually shoot things
@@theblindsniper9130 nice! I’m just yanking your chain sir. Keep up the good work.
I used to hunt with that type of round in a 20 gauge slug gun from savage. Killed a bunch of deer with it. Actually killed my first buck with it in Illinois at 169 yards
1300fps is very much on the low end for a rifled slug.
1600-1700 is usually able to be found on the shelf.
1850 is sometimes found in 3.5 inch shells.
He got uncircumcised bullets 😂
Me and the e wingmaster 870 16 gauge will stick with 00
Lead is gone dude
Now how much do I need to beat my wallet to throw up money for these
.22 less than 1oz. 500fps faster. Ballistics would tell us which is better
Used one to take a pig at 100 yards with a smooth bore browning. Love them to death!
Gotta get a rifled barrel for them otherwise accuracy will be garbage and the slug will tumble
That is a good round I have taken plenty of deer with them