Vigneron!
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- I hope that I'm relevant in spite of RUclips, because of my gun company, my kids, my grandkids, my flying, etc. But just in case, here's my latest video! I recommend Gun Jesus (Forgotten Weapons) if you want details on the Vigneron, but for now I'm giving you a look at the parts kit and some gun designer anecdotes that I hope you'll find useful.
I hate how they have to destroy it in order to sell it to us as a "parts kit".
I don’t know why this one was so bad. Most kits come with all receiver pieces. Like the pps-43s.
That was part of chevron so maybe that'll end soon
@@briansouth9325 Good point. It is not mentioned in the text of the law. it was policy made by ATF.
@@briansouth9325It will end, but probably not real soon. The end of chevron will have far reaching consequences but I have the feeling lawsuits will be required in a lot of cases.
@@Ntmoffi If there's a will there's a way.
Tube of U's is shitting on all firearms content. Loved this.
Are we sure that's not Tube of Ewes (sheep)?
@@hanelyp1 Nice..👍
They sure need to stop that...
DictatorTube!
Chinotube😅
It’s sad to see how RUclips is cracking down on firearms, but have no issue with actual issues.
Everything is fine. Let me tell you about this crypto miner...🤣
but sssniperwolf makes them so much money!!! /s
Yeah, we call it a ‘pedos paradise’ it’s sickening really.
pup-etts
Repealing the NFA is a must.
They punish hard working competent American citizens for the wrong doing of criminals!
Disarming your public is the signs of either a dictatorship or evil communism!
I came from Japan and married an American South African/Asian veteran and i learned everything about firearms from my husband but furthermore he taught me to respect it! This is what i love about America and its fine people!
Absolutely!! Criminals can have and use all the machine guns they want. NFA does nothing.
Find me one single federal politician with that stance on their official political platform 🍀
@@michael2636 we need to hold people in power accountable or we vote them out. Anti-gun politicians get in power via political movement and we can have pro-gun political movement that can counter that.
68 GCA while we’re at it
Hi Mark ! This Vigneron SMG was my weapon during my service in the Belgian Army 42 years ago! This SMG was reliable but lacked accuracy (open bolt gun and worn barrel don't help)
French guy here, vigneron just means winemaker! No bad connotation to it
yup, it was the surname of the lead designer Georges Vigneron.
Same thing
J'allais justement noté la même chose .👍
Comme quoi l'ont peux trouvé des français partout même la où , a première vue , il y a peut de chance d'en trouver .
The ones he's talking about whine! 😂
Oui
The amount of casual snark in this video makes me so happy
Everybody needs a friend like Mark Serbu.
Why we collectively tolerate a criminal organization, whose entire purpose is to infringe upon our rights, is a mystery to me.
What rights? This is a private platform this is not public speech my man lmao
@@samholdsworth420 Cool, so I can have slaves on my private property then.
@@samholdsworth420 think you're confused
@@samholdsworth420he's not talking about RUclips.
I needed you in my life yesterday. Spent five hours getting a FN 1903 back together. Getting the sear assembly back in it’s right place and hooking the grip safety to it were a PITA.
Beautiful handgun, wish I could get my hands on one here, but that would be unlikely
The closest I'll ever come is either making it myself or finding one on some flea market to restore lol
I appreciate the content, Mark. Thank you for continuing to make it.
Would be interested to see the finished one running.
RUclips not allowing video with automatic fire is a perfect time for other platforms🤔
Thanks again for such great content as usual..
Hi, i'm French and vigneron have nothing to do with the N word. It's the guy who work in the vineyard.
Thanks for the videos
Yes, that is what I was taught and i was surprised at what he said. I'm certain he will feel obligated to apologise.
Hi, I am portuguese and I like guns. Thanks for the teaching. Sorry to write back in English, but my level of French is a disgrace!! 😢
Is tending grapes in France 100-150 years ago analogous to picking cotton in the south in the same period? That is the only conclusion I can make for the derogatory connotation.
Maybe that's what Flems normally speaking Dutch call them, the Congolese migrants.No idea just possibility maybe?
@@pedrotome9119 don't worry mate
I'm sure Chevron Deference deprecation will be overlooked because derp stayte loves its power
Hey man, I really enjoyed your video even though you weren't feeling it today. I am a first-time watcher, but I can tell I am going to enjoy your channel and your way of presenting stuff. Liked and subscribed.
We all love you
Thank you for posting your knowledge no matter what kind of money you make that's very honorable.
tube of tubes!
It’s cool, Mark… U my Vigneron, homie!
“Vigneron” is our word but you can say “Vigneran”
With a hard "O"!!!!
@@edlomonacounderrated comment
Vigneron means a person who grows grapes. Absolutely does not mean what he said.
@@rmiller334 I am aware of this, hoss. I habla frog talk
Would love to see it run !
Thank you for all of the work that you do to bring us these videos. Seriously, thank you. I hope that one day I can be half of the gun designer and gun nut that you are!
Man I forgot these things even existed, glad to see you're restoring one
One of my favorite uploads. Thank you!
I eventually want to start my own little machine shop that makes firearm components. I am starting out in a tool and die apprenticeship although I've recently decided to transition into CNC instead and I have been employed as a CNC machinist for the last year for a large automotive OEM. Mark, I know it would be different from your usual content but would you be willing to record a video of your lathe setup? What kind of lathe do you use, what kind of tooling, what kind of chuck, etc. I'm really interested in machine tools as they relate to gun manufacturing/gunsmithing but hardly anyone even touches the subject.
I'd also be interested in seeing any CNC milling stuff you'd be willing to show us. What do you use for setups? Do you use FCS? What kind of CAM software is used in the gun industry?
I would be so excited if you'd show some of this stuff for guys like me who are taking the process seriously by learning metal working trades. There isn't much info about actually MACHINING gun components that I can find publicly.
Ditto on this, too poor and much too far from civilized society to get a job being a machinist, but, if my luck changes I'd love to open a machine shop someday, just fixing all the stuff nobody else around here will!
Same here. I worked for 5.5 years in a tiny machine shop with the expectation of getting real training to be a machinist. Unfortunately all they were interested in was an operator. I was climbing out if my skin with boredom by the time I left. I have more fun now with my tabletop mini lathe than I ever did in the actual machine shop.
@@machinemaker2248 I started out in a small job shop and that was a really awful experience. It was basically a sweat shop and they did not care to advance even the dedicated employees. However now I am lucky to be employed by a first rate company that is paying for all my college classes and putting me through an honest to goodness apprenticeship. I know manual machines and CNC now because of this shop and it's a very interesting gig for reasons I can't really discuss due to the myriad of non disclosure agreements I signed when I got this job.
Looks to be NO step for a stepper. Thanks Mark. Love to see this when it's finished.
awesome as always Mark, love seeing all the things i cant even dream of owning in my tyranical shithole. at least we can live vicariously through youtube
Thanks for sharing.
It's great to watch any video you put out. They're all interesting.
Thanks, Mark. Hi to Val!
We still make methyl ethyl ketone.
Weirdest thing I seen it used for was coolant in plant simulations, but meh.
I used to sell MEK by the 20lt drum to sign writers in the 90s never knew how SPICY it was
it's a great solvent glue for plex and styrene, i only use it these days instead of other model glues. plus it cleans air brushes very well.
Fascinating watching you talk through the process of dealing with a parts kit
Sounds like we need a US manufacturer of metric steel tube.
Damn,now I need to add another parts kit to my pile. Great work bring this one back to the living.
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I think it's pretty cool, looking forward to seeing it finished!
afaik vigneron ist just the word for winemaker
Thanks for the video!
Methyl ethel ketone is used as priming fluid for jointing upvc solvent joints in plumbing & PVC glue
They do still make MEK and I would advise to never wash your hands in it. Triple glove in fact, or better yet, use PVC coated lab gloves because that shit will pass through normal thin nitrile and latex gloves in seconds.
I was one time made to clean up a damaged 1 gallon can of MEK paint that had spilled out inside the carton then oozed from the carton spilling out on the floor of a trailer when it came on to the inbound door to be unloaded. We were supposed to have two responders in the trailer wearing protective PPE and SCBA breathing apparatus. Being a new employee relatively speaking I was told to clean up the mess an to hurry. I asked for backup and was told she was on the way. Well twenty minutes later and still no show of help I finally was so worn out of getting a deep breath of air and going into the trailer to solidify the paint that I had a headache and wasn’t feeling well. I went to get the air tank to mask up with my manager was yelling at me to leave it be and clean up the mess. I snapped back that he should clean it up then without an air tank and he wouldn’t even go in trailer. I suited up and another half an hour I was finally done getting all the paint up from the floor and from the other cartons in trailer. Ended up being two of the four paint pails clips came unfastened from can and they were dented from being loaded roughly upside down in trailer. Spoke to coworker later and was irked she never helped out. Truth was the manager and supervisors never even called her. She wasn’t even busy at her station. Had I been properly informed of my rights as an employee and had known the authority the position actually held I could have shut down the entire operation and evacuated the surrounding area due to fumes alone. It was bad. It took a lot of letter writing and phone calls to finally get the compliance the employees who do the work now have and deserve. Sorry bout the ramble but corporations don’t care bout workers like they should. MEK is no joke. Nasty stuff.
Your description in the beginning of the videos is amazing
I remember years back you could buy all kinds of "parts" kits in Shotgun News. And there was a gunsmith that always rebuilt them.👍👍
Belgian here, I saw one of these go full auto after being dropped on the floor and spin around while our whole platoon jumped, nobody got hit and we just arrived at the open shooting range, our instructor told us that was enough for today already, pack everything and don't mention it ever happened haha
@EnjoYourTroll Wow! That shouldn't even be possible because of the grip safety!
Awesome!
I have always found the Vigneron interesting, the debate on whether the MP40 magazines are compatible with the Vigneron is still raging (or well smoldering is probably the better word) on, it would be interesting to see if the MP40 magazines are compatible (although I personally think that it might be if you took a file to the magazine and filed some areas down but destroying an MP40 Magazine would be really costly especially if you just do it to prove something), hope you enjoy the Vigneron its a neat gun with some really interesting history
i don't remember if the gsg mp40 replica magazines for those garbage semi-auto mp40s that are like 600$ in US are compatable with real mp40s. would be hilarious if they aren't functional on real mp-40 but work perfectly on this with no mods.
I was in prison with a guy that had a " LICENSE " for a full-auto sear on a Mac10. The Mac10 he had came with a closed bolt, and was converted to fire FA from a closed bolt, but the rate-of-fire was not to his liking, and he converted it to open-bolt, and even with a FA license, he was still found guilty of illegal modifications of a firearm, and sent off!
At least the gun is in standard 9mm Luger and not one of the French oddball calibers. Looks like the Belgians used these guns for decades...so they must work OK and be durable enough for service. Will be interesting to see it completed Mark!
When you said MEK I was thinking back to when I was a plumber for Metal Building inc. and washed my hand with it. Then you said we used to wash it hands with it. Lol. Oh those toxic memories.
You had to Bé Carefull when you shoot in full mode because the machinegun had a bad habit of loosing the barrel.
Hmmm... thought that didn't ring completely true when I heard you say it. Vigneron just means winemaker or winefarmer.
Thx for the vid Mark, for the algorithm, an hopefully a nickel in your pocket.
The Vigneron is not only a combat tool but also a part of Belgian military history. With limited production numbers and a rich history, the Vigneron has become a sought-after collectible. Firearm enthusiasts often look for Vigneron models to add to their collections, appreciating both the historical value and uniqueness of this gun.
That's a very nice parts kit thanks for sharing this six stars brother
much respect and enjoy the content. keep up the good work
I'm gonna leave a comment just because I want to support the channel
Watched. Thanks 4 posting
If I was at the shop we’d probably be at the Bridgeport milling that tube for a test fit or two so we could get that part under our belt. Lol break out the four jaw let’s face that thing and get it ready for the tube 😬
Local Tampon love your vids
😂 Tampon is certainly somethin
I was wondering if the YT censorship got your ass.
It's great to see you back and with such a Weird little parts kit.
MEK ,yea it was a pretty good hand cleaner,but just like lawn darts or clackers the good old Big Brother took it all away..
I digress.....
Just gotta do some paperwork brb
Now that I am off the crapper,
Just wanted to take this time to thank you for all your informative/entertaining videos.
God Bless you and your loved ones
Love the parts kit videos.
Thank you for the vidja.
Interesting toooob. Also interesting outro music.
Peaceful Skies
Hahaha. Mark is nuts That’s a cool parts kit.
Glad you're still fighting the good fight
Thank you for your time.
Watching before you-know-who does you-know-what to the vid-yo.
Keep on building mark!
They do still make MEK. We use it at our plant for cleaning adhesive off of our spray rig. We get it in pallets of 5 gallon jugs. And it WILL liquify plastic and eat right thru nitrile gloves!🤣
I liked the part about the fine parts kit you acquired 😂
Quote of the day "Usaually I'm pretty smart most of the time"; Mark Serbu!!
Interesting video thanks for sharing this information.
Cool! Gonna go watch gun Jesus’s video on it now
and to say the damn thing made the 80's in service
Brilliant vid mark! Tks
Awesome video like always 👍💜
Appreciate you Mark!
Cool parts kit.
sweet project!!
I subscribed and gave thumbs up! 👍 I like your videos 🎉🎉🎉
Missed your videos!!!!
God bless you sir.
I'm not a "gun person" but I am a "people person" and in that capacity I feel qualified to comment on this video: Mr. Serbu, I've heard your name on a couple of occasions as regards the designing and manufacture of fire-arms and the fact that (to my understanding) you're a DIY kind of guy always interested me. Then, just now, I stumbled across this video and let it play because the sight of those gun-parts and your mention of it being a parts kit, despite appearing to be about 90% complete really caught my attention, that and your disarming (excuse the pun) attitude and un-ornamented way of communicating which is refreshing and easily understood even though this was an off-the-cuff video done amidst what sounds to me like a full-plate of social and personal activities that leaves you a little stretched and, perhaps, somewhat distracted. Still, my first impression of you was favorable and I continued watching the video till the end. When it was over I decided I wanted to see and learn more about this "parts-kit" gun and that's when I scrolled to check out the name of your channel and realized that you were the guy I'd heard about previously.
Knowing that you are a busy man and that I can always check out your other videos to get up to speed on your work and, specifically, this gun I won't take up a bunch of your time today but, between you and I, I've got questions, some ordinary and others a little more esoteric but all within your wheelhouse and over the coming days I may ask one or two, if you don't mind. I'm telling you this here in the comments because I figure that even if you can't or won't reply there are probably dozens if not thousands of your subscribers who can and will, I hope. Anyway, coming across your channel like this has been a pleasant and timely surprise made even more serendipitous by the fact that, aside from your firearms expertise, you are also a personable and down-to-earth guy, a family man and an American. Talk to you later and as soon as I have extra money I intend to subscribe, thanks.
That's a great video. I'm looking forward to seeing it develop into what it was meant to be. BTW, I want one of your 50's. Do you have layaway?
Very cool design and video
Vigneron means winemaker. No n word or anything else there. Best job in the world imho
Love your content!❤❤
The Vigneron mags will fit in a MP40 with a little sandpaper work (very little) BUT not correctly! They won’t sit in the mag well high enough and instead of feeding properly the round just blows up when the bolt goes forward. Yup! This is the voice of experience. It, FORTUNATELY, didn’t damage the gun but it stung like hell on the hand holding onto the magazine. No blood, not cuts. Just a lot of cursing.
MEK is available to people with a professional use for it, for example you as a gunsmith for cleaning parts etc.,..
also, its one of the better solvents for hand cleaning, although you should never use any solvent for that purpose obviously. its better because it evaporates very quickly leaving it little time to harm you in comparison with mineral spirits or other "heavier" solvents.
cheers
If one decided to ruin the bolt, a few very shallow grooves could be milled on the sections riding on the receiver as to reduce friction. The mass loss should be insignificant for rate of fire or bolt velocity. And then reblue the thing for longevity.
Other than that, I think that I would leave everything else alone.
Would love to see a combo of the luddy and the pulse rifle from aliens ( luddy or lutty is similar to the Thompson that they built the movie prop from.)
Guntubers are life.
0:43 who told you this? Vigneron is someone who takes care of grapes in preparation for winemaking.
Despite the Vigneron mags not being interchangeable with MP-40 mags do you think the same is true for Sten mags? Sten mags look very similar and (at the time of writing this) seem to be easily obtainable.
Appreciate the content
I think a Sawzall motor operated bolt would make a cool gun. Obviously a cordless one. Or use a cordless 18V jigsaw to operate an AR bolt. Get rid of the gas tube, recoil spring and buffer, and just put a solid piece over the gas hole on the barrel.
Looks like I will have another project! Thank you for sharing. Any chance you would be willing to share the specs for the tube? Please?
Awesome man!
MEK got pulled about 3 years back. Some may be somewhere but not at big box stores.
It is red listed, you can do a plethora of things the feds would frown on, dope and boom stuff.
Just saying the other day I miss it. Made my own wood varnish and it was the right solvent for mixed waxes, vegetable oils and plant resins (propolis from bees, like Stratavarius).
Still online for about 70 a gallon. I switched to everclear and turpentine but there is much undissolved waste to filter, basically splits in half. Will not use denatured, might want to make a spoon or something. I know it evaporates, don't like it on principle either. Evil things were done and continue to take place in that department.
Cool sub. Just clicked to find out what the word I don't think I'm going to repeat was.
As called 2-butanol. *probably. Been a few years. May be a way to find it easier, or not.
*also.
It is 5 am. Forgive me.
Cool stuff man!!
love your content man. sorry bout youtube hitting you hard.
Vigneron is french for winemaker. No idea who told you otherwise ^^
Mark. I'd live to see you make a semi auto akin to a sten in 12 gauge. Maybe closed bolt blowback semi
Ugly as a step I think it would sell well and hey, there's heaps of mags you could use.
Or my personal choice would be a rectangular steel tube stock size to run a single stack in for a mag.
Even as a one off it'd look cool
Seems to me the bolt for a slam fire 12 gauge would have to be monstrously heavy, and a closed bolt version something like twice as heavy as that. Could be done of course, there was a slam fire 20 mm anti-tank rifle!
@wilhelmvonn9619 Yes but a gunsmith that might have a trigger group laying about so it could be closed bolt. Overall the weight wouldn't be that bad there are many semi 12 gauge around