Konrad Imirowicz was a kind-hearted man. When I was younger, he had mentored me in Scouts, helping me rank up and advance. This woman (My Father and I had lived with her before) had convinced my 10 Year Old brain that he was a mean man. But, over time, I realized that what I was made to believe was all lies. He was a great man, and a great cook (Showed me how to make French-Toast S’mores one day) I won’t forget this man, n’or the impact he had made on my life. A Friend, a Father, and my Mentor
Something is wrong with her emotionally. Her daughter probably learned her rage indulgence from her mother. She admitted the two older kids wanted to live with their dad. Apparently, they elected to live in filth over living with a mother who seems to have a rage disorder.
Even if he had custody of the 2 older kids and even if the kids chose to live there willingly so as to have more freedom due to him always being drunk, that still does not negate her responsibility to call CPS if the living conditions were as she describes. Her job is to protect her kids and by her leaving them to live in a feces riddled moldy home with a drunk is repulsive. She thinks shes coming across as the better parent, but I see her as just as disgusting for doing nothing.
I know, I was so enraged about her testimony. How on earth can she pretend to be a responsible mother if she let her children live in such horrific circumstances? Disgusting, seriously. Should be charged with child neglect.
@elliebellie7816 The daughter was just 18 that day, so no and if he was so bad why did she choose to live there and if she's old enough to decide where to live she's old enough to clean her own damn house. Now the victim is to blame for his murder and this gross excuse for a mother is lying for her daughter.
I just can't with this woman. What a piece of work. Sure, bash a man who isn't here to defend himself. She's just as dispicable if she allowed her daughter to live in such conditions. If he had custody, what does that say about her environment. Must have been 100 times worse.
I’m a mom of an 18 yr old and let me tell u I wd b removed as well cuz at that point they r grown and u can’t change any of their behavior. I can plead to my daughter but she wd stubbornly do whatever she wants. Moms beware… kids sometimes turn out selfish and wreckless and homicidal
She loves talking about how dirty the house was. She is happy to humiliate her dead ex-husband. She's awful. Seems like she's proud of her Daughter. Horrible
So mom is a negligent parent by choice and dad was a negligent parent due to disease. The combination of their parenting resulted in their daughter becoming a spoiled brat with anger and impulse control issues. She was taught to make excuses, lie, and throw a tantrum instead of having accountability for her behavior. What do you expect when a child is raised by social media, friends, and by siblings who were raised with little difference in level of parental involvement?
I know the condition of the home is completely irrelevant these grown children had more than enough capability to clean up but turns out they all like living like pigs so it is not the father's fault at all
Not taking up for the parents. They're probably Gen Xers. Gen Xers raised themselves, so in turn, that's how they raised their children. Times were different then. Children didn't get violent raising themselves then. They got into minor trouble, but killing was a rare occurrence. Anyway, I know nothing about this case. I'll have to catch up.
Exactly, if dads house and dad himself was awful, why not go with mommy. This girl is an obnoxious brat, pissed over her birthday and daddy’s credit card. I hope her next 25 birthdays are spent in prison.
@@terryellis7692 Even if he was a hoarder ,or a narcissist which you don't know that,but if he was he didn't deserve what his evil daughter did or his ex wife blaming him for his own death. It doesn't matter what you're just saying it doesn't add up,the mother didn't have the kids ,I can see why now.
@@jlob5296 Sadly if I can do what I wanted, I couldn't live under those conditions. Unfortunately it might have been ingrained in the daughter's mindset.
I think it is very relevant, in that in a hoarding environment, it would be easy to throw several random objects without discerning exactly what they were. I honestly believe she had no idea he was injured when she left
This is not the time or place to smirk about her ex-husband’s living conditions, who is deceased. She could have gone about describing the conditions of the house in a more mature way. This is not her divorce case.
If my ex asks me how I'm doing my response will ALWAYS be great, even in my darkest hour. Somehow I get the feeling she would fuel from his misery but I could be wrong.
Her saying she drove to get her ex husband's cell phone with another adult to the defense and then the prosecution asked her who the adult was she said the defendants boyfriend who just turned 18 like wow what a joke you can see how she is a mother
@@usaroxx8085 whoever she made it sound like it was a mature older adult with her until prosecution asked and she said my daughters boyfriend just turned 18
@@alisha8586 Agreed. "I brought an adult with me" like why not just say you had your childs boyfriend ho with you? Like it was a point she wanted to make. For no purpose. This mom also NEVER mentioned her ex was badly burned when she spoke to him? Only says he was happy...wtaf The mom and daughter are pigs.
I have cats ("tigers") and I can say without hesitation, there's no problem with telling the difference between their feces and human feces. No point in listing all the reasons, but this woman is disturbing.
There's something wrong with this woman. Any normal person wouldn't want to be testifying in a murder case, yet she seems to be enjoying the attention. Gross!
Without a doubt 🤨 V.Oakley...it was hard for my brain to listen further from the mother to the son, very "Strange Indeed"😕 to the mother: could you say "Humm" " one more damn time"...✨🎇
She’s something omg I would never let my kids live that way! Where the hell has she been? Living her life with no worries?? I feel for the kids. Horrible mother
It's amazing how she noticed everything in the house in every room but the only thing she didn't see was the container of Lye...which was clearly visible in the pics, actually it stood out. Why did she need another adult to go through her ex's entire house and a complete stranger to Conrad is beyond me. She was sent to look for a cell phone, made it a point to say how the house smelled of cat urine and feces but since there were no "tigers" around she assumed the feces by the couch was not cat feces but human feces. This woman is not credible. So she proceeds to throw her son under the bus and takes her daughter to live with her for 5 months. Her last statement "she would do *anything* to protect her daughter.
If she took photos on her phone to determine any chemicals lying around, this could be easily solved if the LE had retrieved these pics…perhaps they did but because there was no bottle in the same place it was put in their photo, they didnt use the mother’s photos as evidence….or perhaps they will. I would like to hope so. I think she is a very credible witness, more so than the eldest son. Shes not on trial, shes just asked for her testimony which she gave in a good manner.
@@sarahberry3819 How is it possible for you to even know where the bottle was originally, and if it was moved and how it ended up in the photos shown in court?
@@Zia01023 That's just an assumption on my part how the commenter might have come to their conclusion: I think Megans friend didn't see a bottle either, the two photos that were used by the prosecution showed the bottle in two different positions (it had been moved to photograph the label) and the lead detective testified that the bottle was collected by police weeks after the incident.
That women is talking about her ex death, while her daughter is charged to be the murder. Since, she is answering the questions like talking about a tv novel!!! Calm, equilibrated, and even kidding. Completely detached from the fact and fate of her daughter! Like, no problem, life goes on ?! Like no responsibly, no history... no feelings!
This mother makes everything seem so light hearted and ok. NOT! The father had immense severe burns where skin was black. What her daughter did is absolutely horrible! Then she goes to her birthday party and tries calling her dad for his credit card number???! What a user, heartless, etc...hope she gets the maximum.
If people don't know how to clean ... they don't know how to teach their children. A child can be overwhelmed trying to learn to clean up after others if they have no discipline.
The daughter was old enough to not be a slob even if the father was. She could've cleaned bathrooms, her own room, etc for her own self esteem. She seems like a real brat imo. A brat now murderer. But let's watch the Defence tell us that the poor girl lived in squalor with a drunk for a dad. That'll be their excuse for her horrific, deadly act. I hope she serves many years in prison.
I'm furious, and I PRAY for justice. Old enough to not be a slob, old enough to drive herself, old enough to pay for her own desires. He was probably too nice, and giving. See how that works out?
He was the adult, newsflash most teenagers don't clean by themselves that's why they have a responsible adult to teach them, be an example and make them clean up as needed so that hopefully by the time they reach 18 they know the importance of it...Megan is being held accountable but her father should have been held accountable as well (providing what the mother said is true).
This woman likely has narcissistic personality disorder. Her emotions while testifying are inappropriate to the situation, and she seeks to blame her ex-husband for his terrible fate. The brother testified that his sister called him while he was at the hospital to tell him to get the PIN for their father's credit card. He said she showed no concern that their father was seriously injured and in the hospital. It seems that the mother has conditioned the daughter to be self centered and manipulative and vindictive. The daughter retaliated against her father because he did not meet her demands. It is easy to imagine the mother encouraging her daughter to be flippant and vindictive.
why was she allowing her underage daughter to live with this "father"? what kind of good mother does that? why is she slurring her speech? the mother is creepy.
Court orders, sadly!!! My daughter @ 13 wanted to live with her Dad who never paid child support & only saw her once a year. I had NO CHOICE but let her go, according to the law children @ 13 are legally allowed to malke there own decisions. The first year she was with him...she missed 109 days of school, he ended up a Crack head & showed her a lifestyle she never knew existed 😢 She's an adult now & scarred for life & it's because of Children's Aid Services who believe "children @ 13" know what they need & mature enough to make the right decisions for themselves.... it's terrible!!!!!
She seems reasonable and rational to me. Regardless of why the kids were there doesn’t change the fact that they were living with in an environment that had to be hell on them mentally. Sounds like the son trauma bonded and the daughter lashed out. It’s a sad situation.
This woman is a real piece of work. She is loving the fact that she is sticking it to her x- husband. She purposely went over there to take pictures, because she thought it was her duty to make sure her ex was treated properly - give me a break, you idiot!! The Judge and Prosecutor can see right through her.
I feel really sorry for people who think they know more than they do. Unintelligent and think they know what others think as they make stuff up. Epitome of an unfortunate mind.
Why would Meghan be allowed to use her dad’s credit card if she was given permission by her father then he would have given her all the information she would need to use it I would think.
Guess what… not everyone gets an eighteenth birthday party. And it’s certainly no reason to maim her father for not providing one. It sounds to me like this man had grieving, addiction problems that needed his family’s support.
Grieving? In any case it's hardly right to expect a 17 going on 18 year old to be the more mature care giver etc and not unrealistic to expect to be transported at that age, from the sounds of it it sounds like the arguments were more than that...17 year olds generally can't be mature enough to deal with drunks who are supposed to be the parent/responsible adult, a lot of adults 21+ can't deal with that.
I was thinking the same. She was implying something, but not sure what. This is an emergency and she is there to get a phone. Why is she roaming around with this "other adult"
Hmmmmm interesting. This woman has a cane and can slowly get around in normal condition. How did she manage to get around an entire “hoarders” house then? 🥴🤔
I wish I knew why the 2 older kids wanted to live with the drunk, dirty hoarder dad !! My parents are sober hoarders and I couldn't wait to get out of the house !!! Lots of mental issues with hoarders.
Those teens know between clean and not. They are lazy and can't help their dad. They know the difference. Just lazy. Use to it or not...they know better. If that was my dad, I would take care of him and clean...pick up the cat poo...etc....it doesn't matter if he's drunk or a hoarder. Thats your dad!
She went to the house before the hospital. She says she was looking for his phone and any chemicals that could have caused his burns. How did she know to be looking for chemicals at that time? And why was she taking pictures? Did her son tell her on the phone that his dad had chemical burns? Just a little confusing. ok.... nevermind. Question answered later in her testimony...
She thinks she’s coming across well,she isn’t,the way she thinks she’s manipulating everyone is just embarrassing for herself. This is how she’s got her way her whole life. Truly pathetic
Megan was an adult not a 2 yr old. She chose to live there and if the filth was so bad she was more than capable to help clean up the place. This is no excuse for what she did. Mother making excuses. Megan got what she deserved. Mother is a real piece of work.
I saw the photos and testimony from Officer Hunter, and there was a bottle on the couch. It was photographed. Yet when mom went to the house, she saw no bottle??
‘I never saw a white bottle’ she said. But she has a complete recollection of the state of every single room and the freezer door opened… stop lying, lady
Lock her up, then lets see if she'll keep that same smug smirk on her face & no fucks given energy!?! She's was old enough to change her situation. No excuses can be made here. And anyone defending her behavior, must have had a pretty privileged life to have such an outlook. People go though way worse and know better then to burn someone alive with Drain cleaner. And then want said victims $ to go party at 18 years old!? WTAF Absolutely insanity!
The mothers testimony didn't sit well with me (which i already figured). why didn't she fight for custody of ALL thr children if her ex husband was a hoarder and an alcoholic?! 🤬 This could've been prevented
The defendant had the option to live with her mother, but chose to live in a horrible living situation. What makes sense to me is that her mom’s house had rules & accountability, but her dad didn’t have any rules.
Terrible for me to say but just assuming their family dynamics as a whole: I am wondering if it’s possible the mother may have been just as relieved the kids chose to be with their father. Lots more I feel went on in this girls 17 years of life that the just will likely never know.
You know what, when a house is that disgusting and you know your kids are residing there... I would totally take note of every room. Like a real life horror set !!
@@thatcanadianchick7589she clearly knew the condition of the house and her kids were residing there and she's talking crap about her murdered ex husband? Some people don't see how the seem to others I guess.
5:05 “As a ski patroller for 23 years, its important to know what he was burned by so he can be treated properly for those burns.” Am I missing something? I don’t ski but I feel like chemical burns has to be quite low on the list of concerns for administering first aid to skiers. I feel like she just threw that in there because she was upset they didn’t ask her about her professional background and she wanted to sound impressive.
Man... Im not speaking from what I think of this case in a legal stand point but I grew up like this and it's pure chaos. I'm actually kinda curious abt the father saying it was flea powder bc that sounds so close to what my own dad did. He thought any poison was flea powder and both me and my dog got sick from it. He literally dumped it on a mouse and killed it within minutes. Idk what it was but I know it wasn't meant for what he used it as and he definitely just left it around. Its hard when your that young and live in such a volatile environment. No matter the case I feel for those kids
You don’t know her childhood or how she was raised. Kids don’t all of a sudden know how to be adults. Clearly parents failed taking time nourishing and educating their children to become productive adults. STOP judging. You sound like an internet troll with a pretend psychology degree.
When my husband and I was divorced, our 2 preteens (at the time) lived with their dad. Due to finances and keeping them in their same school and grandparents nearby, we felt it was the best for everyone. I still saw them several times during the week. I kept an eye on everything, whether it was cleanliness of the house, what they ate and their school grades. When they were teens, they chose to live with me. This woman angers me with her acting so detached with what happened. She seems to find humor in what ended up in the death of her ex and the entire situation. She’s almost as much to fault as her daughter is. There’s no way, a loving and responsible mother would let her children live in such filth and with an alcoholic dad. Her daughter didn’t become evil over night. She clearly didn’t have any rules or responsibilities or live in a healthy environment. 🤬
She's guilty. Who else would walk in that house and throw lye on this guy. No one. She might have thought it was just to maime him, and did not realize it would kill him eventually. She's responsible.
Very sad… She literally killed her own father….. The man was an alcoholic who had lost the ability to do anything but exist is my presumption.. I could be completely wrong about that, but there’s no doubt he was an alcoholic…. If he had managed to get into recovery 😢🫤 maybe he’d still be alive…. We all hear so much about drugs and the hundreds of thousands of overdoses per year, but we hear crickets when its Legal.. R.I.P. Conrad … and peace to those who loved him 💯
i agree completely, and part of the problem is that bc alcohol is legal, it is socially accepted and easier to obtain than any "illicit" substance, advertising and liquor stores everywhere. That has got to make recovery that much harder. disclaimer: i drink alcohol, i am not saying lets go back to prohibition, but had to comment bc excellent point, i have thought about this in the same way you do.
Listening and not knowing anything about this case, the fact that her kids are named Morgen and Ian is sending me! I'm an older sister and my younger brother is named Ian..uncanny lol
I feel like there was so much stuff in that house that maybe she didn’t even take the time to check to see what she was throwing. I can’t see her wanting him to die (by her hands, anyway). An awful situation. I hope the jury shows mercy.
Are you for real? She had to mix the powdered lye with water to activate it and throw on him. I think you know when you throw a chemical powder on someone. Not to mention, if you somehow accidentally did that you would try to wash it off or call for help, not just leave them there to burn.
And yeah she probably didn't mean to kill him. She was pissed and thought he'd wake up when it started to burn but he didn't. Probably a dumbass who didn't think about how quickly those chemicals can damage someone. She intended to harm him and as a result he died. That's all they need to prosecute
Many of us are "blaming" Mom for not getting the 2 older kids due to their Dad's living conditions. IMO, if the 2 oldest WANTED to be with their Dad due to WHATEVER...had Mom insisted they return to her...those kids would have made everyones life a living HELL!! If the filth wasn't acceptable to the kids...they'd have begged Mom to come get them!!
The mother stated how unkept the house was the dad was working 3 jobs and there were grown teens in the home why didn't they clean the house to help their dad? Oh I forgot because she killed him!
Austin may think his father's drinking was normal for how Austin lived it. Like others who experience how their family lives, they believe this is normal, whether it's abuse of family members or abuse of alcohol etc...
MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/trending/mi-v-megan-imirowicz-sleeping-father-death-trial/?
Konrad Imirowicz was a kind-hearted man.
When I was younger, he had mentored me in Scouts, helping me rank up and advance.
This woman (My Father and I had lived with her before) had convinced my 10 Year Old brain that he was a mean man. But, over time, I realized that what I was made to believe was all lies. He was a great man, and a great cook (Showed me how to make French-Toast S’mores one day)
I won’t forget this man, n’or the impact he had made on my life.
A Friend, a Father, and my Mentor
Wow, thank you for sharing ♥
I’m so sorry for your loss.
Very nice. Thankyou for speaking kindly of him. I would think being with her probably had alit to do with his drinking
Disturbing to see the mother so giggly. Looks like she was happy for the father’s outcome.
I took that as being nervous.
Something is wrong with her emotionally. Her daughter probably learned her rage indulgence from her mother. She admitted the two older kids wanted to live with their dad. Apparently, they elected to live in filth over living with a mother who seems to have a rage disorder.
Divorce is tough
@@annwithaplan9766 I agree, nerves...
I agree 💯
She's the mother? Pretty chirpy for someone whose daughter is on trial for murder. Yuk.
both parents are narcissists imo
I was thinking the same thing then i saw your comment.
I thought the exact same thing and ‘chirpy’ is the perfect word. She’s there smiling and I swear I think she chuckled a time or two.
I was thinking the same!! Wth, lady! You’re part of the problem. You knew how your kids were living
@@Hooklineandsinker145 And number one clue to how sick this mother is that the children chose to live with their father!
Even if he had custody of the 2 older kids and even if the kids chose to live there willingly so as to have more freedom due to him always being drunk, that still does not negate her responsibility to call CPS if the living conditions were as she describes. Her job is to protect her kids and by her leaving them to live in a feces riddled moldy home with a drunk is repulsive. She thinks shes coming across as the better parent, but I see her as just as disgusting for doing nothing.
100%
exactly
I know, I was so enraged about her testimony. How on earth can she pretend to be a responsible mother if she let her children live in such horrific circumstances? Disgusting, seriously. Should be charged with child neglect.
Exactly 💯
Totally agree!
Why wasn’t the children living with her if the ex husband’s living conditions were so bad ??
They are old enough to make up their minds who they want to live with.
Maybe her place is smaller?
@elliebellie7816 The daughter was just 18 that day, so no and if he was so bad why did she choose to live there and if she's old enough to decide where to live she's old enough to clean her own damn house. Now the victim is to blame for his murder and this gross excuse for a mother is lying for her daughter.
Well she's a winner isn't she. 😂😂😂
Teenagers usually choose to be with the “good times Charlie” were the alcohol flows liberally. 🧏🏽♀️
She’s laughing and joking during her daughter’s murder trial?
She is something. 🙄
She is gringy . Her attitude on the stand was very odd . She lit up smiled every time she talked about her daughters friend Lucas , just weird
I agree! WTH was wrong with her. Any wonder the older two chose to stay with dad, what that says about the mother speaks volumes!
She let her daughter stay there??
I just can't with this woman. What a piece of work. Sure, bash a man who isn't here to defend himself. She's just as dispicable if she allowed her daughter to live in such conditions. If he had custody, what does that say about her environment. Must have been 100 times worse.
It’s not bashing. She’s stating facts about the conditions of the home. It is what it is. She never said he deserved to die
@nunyabidness5505 A man lost his life in the most heinous way. , Are we really focusing on the condition of his house ?
Yeah…something is really off.
@@karlastewart4537the attorney asked the question & she answered it.
@@nunyabidness5505 her entire attitude is careless 🤡
She’s acting like she didn’t do nothing wrong !😮😮
so awful. pissed me off she thinks she's the better parent!
I’m a mom of an 18 yr old and let me tell u I wd b removed as well cuz at that point they r grown and u can’t change any of their behavior. I can plead to my daughter but she wd stubbornly do whatever she wants. Moms beware… kids sometimes turn out selfish and wreckless and homicidal
I’m so confused here now who in prison here please someone explain
She loves talking about how dirty the house was. She is happy to humiliate her dead ex-husband. She's awful. Seems like she's proud of her Daughter. Horrible
I hear a woman answering the questions she's asked.
@@jacal420I know. I don’t see it either
and she’s cracking jokes on the stand, like this is all some kind of a joke. Sicko.
@@jacal420 who cares what you hear ?
Correct.
So mom is a negligent parent by choice and dad was a negligent parent due to disease.
The combination of their parenting resulted in their daughter becoming a spoiled brat with anger and impulse control issues.
She was taught to make excuses, lie, and throw a tantrum instead of having accountability for her behavior.
What do you expect when a child is raised by social media, friends, and by siblings who were raised with little difference in level of parental involvement?
Bless the son for trying to keep his dad's name clean. 😢
I know the condition of the home is completely irrelevant these grown children had more than enough capability to clean up but turns out they all like living like pigs so it is not the father's fault at all
@@ac61900exactly. So basically her very capable grown daughter is a pig. Great job Mom
Well the mom and dad are prime example of why everyone shouldn’t have children , these kids we’re raising themselves
You’re absolutely right!!!
kids have it so rough if their parents are immature and dysfunctional. It ends uo being generational until someone makes it out and turns to Christ.
Oh OK.
Not taking up for the parents. They're probably Gen Xers. Gen Xers raised themselves, so in turn, that's how they raised their children. Times were different then. Children didn't get violent raising themselves then. They got into minor trouble, but killing was a rare occurrence.
Anyway, I know nothing about this case. I'll have to catch up.
I thought the same.
Three kids and not one of them help the man clean his house? Disrespectful. They lived there,too, didn't they?
Kids do what they are shown and taught.
Teenagers. That explains alot.
Well, if the parents don’t teach the children the fault reverts back to the parents, correct.
If he was a hoarder, he wouldnt have allowed them to.
@@eleanoraquitaine2966 True. I think the mother was using the show “Hoarders” for a visual aid and not being literal.
The mother who did not have her daughter in her home, yet everyone wants to blame the dad for his death.
It's repulsive her daughter couldn't clean up. And she left her children there if it was so bad. Give me a break
Well he was a hoarding narcissist so yeah his life was what he made it, including how he treated his kids. Js.
Exactly, if dads house and dad himself was awful, why not go with mommy. This girl is an obnoxious brat, pissed over her birthday and daddy’s credit card. I hope her next 25 birthdays are spent in prison.
@@terryellis7692 Even if he was a hoarder ,or a narcissist which you don't know that,but if he was he didn't deserve what his evil daughter did or his ex wife blaming him for his own death. It doesn't matter what you're just saying it doesn't add up,the mother didn't have the kids ,I can see why now.
@@jlob5296 Sadly if I can do what I wanted, I couldn't live under those conditions. Unfortunately it might have been ingrained in the daughter's mindset.
Theres a darn good reason the kids didn't live with her. Only they know the true dynamics going on there.
Why weren’t her kids living with her? Why was she or seemingly ok with her kids living with their alcoholic father?!
He had custody of the older 2 she had custody of the younger kids ! The eldest son had moved out on his own !
So sad. The state of the house shouldn't be the focus. This man died because of a poor decision by his daughter that day.
I think it is very relevant, in that in a hoarding environment, it would be easy to throw several random objects without discerning exactly what they were. I honestly believe she had no idea he was injured when she left
Uh, the house was disgusting. He should never had custody of any kids.
@@jacal420 exactly. Her dad was a POS drunk.
This is not the time or place to smirk about her ex-husband’s living conditions, who is deceased. She could have gone about describing the conditions of the house in a more mature way. This is not her divorce case.
Give the woman a break she's not Aiden fucci or Nicholas Cruz she made a bad mistake she's not remorseless obviously just a scared young lady.
@@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx Are you a 🤖? I commented about her mom
@@genomic_ I thought you meant Megan my bad sorry 😆
How often have you had to testify before a court? It's not easy to always say what you want to say.
Exactly what I was thinking
"He was having a jolly old time"! I've never heard anything so awful after what Conrad suffered. Horrible woman!!!
If my ex asks me how I'm doing my response will ALWAYS be great, even in my darkest hour. Somehow I get the feeling she would fuel from his misery but I could be wrong.
This lady is truly a piece of work.
@Latana Fowler - totally agree!
Her saying she drove to get her ex husband's cell phone with another adult to the defense and then the prosecution asked her who the adult was she said the defendants boyfriend who just turned 18 like wow what a joke you can see how she is a mother
@@alisha8586
No. It was the YOUNGER daughters boyfriend.
@@usaroxx8085 whoever she made it sound like it was a mature older adult with her until prosecution asked and she said my daughters boyfriend just turned 18
@@alisha8586
Agreed.
"I brought an adult with me" like why not just say you had your childs boyfriend ho with you? Like it was a point she wanted to make. For no purpose.
This mom also NEVER mentioned her ex was badly burned when she spoke to him? Only says he was happy...wtaf
The mom and daughter are pigs.
i think shes enjoying her time on the stand tbh
She loved it !! Yuk!
💯
I have cats ("tigers") and I can say without hesitation, there's no problem with telling the difference between their feces and human feces. No point in listing all the reasons, but this woman is disturbing.
There's something wrong with this woman. Any normal person wouldn't want to be testifying in a murder case, yet she seems to be enjoying the attention. Gross!
100 hundred percent, she enjoys the attention 😊
Glad it's not just me, I can't even watch her anymore, she's had plenty time to prepare rather than um um um Jesus christ
You are 💯on your assessment of this piece of **** that they get to call Mom…😢
And the drama of the walking stick stinks of disability scam
Is it just me or is this woman bizarre???
She creeps me out!
Oh, she's bizarre for sure!! And why did she take all those photos of Konrad's burns? Nothing is normal about her!!!
I know. This whole family is so weird.
Something unnerving about how this woman is so blasé about her daughter being on trial for murder.
IQ 😢😂
She is to busy trashing the father. She is a sweetheart
Odd family.
Without a doubt 🤨 V.Oakley...it was hard for my brain to listen further from the mother to the son, very "Strange Indeed"😕 to the mother: could you say "Humm" "
one more damn time"...✨🎇
What is she smiling about? Superiority. Not sure what she's pleased about. He's dead.
She couldn't tell her children 's ages 🤔
she seemss cold-hearted and self-absorbed
lol she knows her kids ages, she just can’t math
covert narcissist 🚩
Re children's ages, that's just parents. They'll get your name wrong as well, when they get older.
She’s something omg I would never let my kids live that way! Where the hell has she been? Living her life with no worries?? I feel for the kids. Horrible mother
She can't call her self a mother 😡🤬
Your absolutely right! How about 👹 Monster! 👍
I want to see the history of anyone involved here seeking help for this unwell man. As long as the credit card was good is all that mattered.
Perfectly said. It’s such a pathetic situation.
Preach!!
It's amazing how she noticed everything in the house in every room but the only thing she didn't see was the container of Lye...which was clearly visible in the pics, actually it stood out. Why did she need another adult to go through her ex's entire house and a complete stranger to Conrad is beyond me.
She was sent to look for a cell phone, made it a point to say how the house smelled of cat urine and feces but since there were no "tigers" around she assumed the feces by the couch was not cat feces but human feces. This woman is not credible. So she proceeds to throw her son under the bus and takes her daughter to live with her for 5 months. Her last statement "she would do *anything* to protect her daughter.
If she took photos on her phone to determine any chemicals lying around, this could be easily solved if the LE had retrieved these pics…perhaps they did but because there was no bottle in the same place it was put in their photo, they didnt use the mother’s photos as evidence….or perhaps they will. I would like to hope so. I think she is a very credible witness, more so than the eldest son. Shes not on trial, shes just asked for her testimony which she gave in a good manner.
Yeah, I’m beginning to wonder about some of this stuff. I might have wanted a witness, but I would have gotten someone older.
@@sarahberry3819My perception of the oldest son’s testimony was that he was credible.
@@sarahberry3819 How is it possible for you to even know where the bottle was originally, and if it was moved and how it ended up in the photos shown in court?
@@Zia01023 That's just an assumption on my part how the commenter might have come to their conclusion: I think Megans friend didn't see a bottle either, the two photos that were used by the prosecution showed the bottle in two different positions (it had been moved to photograph the label) and the lead detective testified that the bottle was collected by police weeks after the incident.
That women is talking about her ex death, while her daughter is charged to be the murder. Since, she is answering the questions like talking about a tv novel!!! Calm, equilibrated, and even kidding. Completely detached from the fact and fate of her daughter! Like, no problem, life goes on ?! Like no responsibly, no history... no feelings!
Why is she laughing. She should be ashamed of herself.
Nervousness. If you've ever had to sit on a witness stand you'd know all about it.
Nervous.
The whole damn family is "Strange"... 😮could you say, "um"...one Hundred times🥺.. ✨🎇
I have testified in a murder trial myself. It's extremely nerve wrecking.
This mother makes everything seem so light hearted and ok. NOT! The father had immense severe burns where skin was black. What her daughter did is absolutely horrible! Then she goes to her birthday party and tries calling her dad for his credit card number???! What a user, heartless, etc...hope she gets the maximum.
The judge rewarded the daughter for having tortured her father to death. The judge cited this narcissists tales, favorably. Atrocious!
The kids could have done some cleaning. It's not all on the dad.
If people don't know how to clean ... they don't know how to teach their children. A child can be overwhelmed trying to learn to clean up after others if they have no discipline.
Exactly, but parents have to teach children these things when they're young.
But unfortunately both parents did not bring them up to be responsible.
Facts! They were old and able enough to clean up.
@@ACB2K they just plain pigsty. And totally dirty lazy. People.
The daughter was old enough to not be a slob even if the father was. She could've cleaned bathrooms, her own room, etc for her own self esteem. She seems like a real brat imo. A brat now murderer. But let's watch the Defence tell us that the poor girl lived in squalor with a drunk for a dad. That'll be their excuse for her horrific, deadly act. I hope she serves many years in prison.
I'm furious, and I PRAY for justice. Old enough to not be a slob, old enough to drive herself, old enough to pay for her own desires. He was probably too nice, and giving. See how that works out?
children are a product of their environment my friend, two narcissistic parents will raise a narcissistic child. common sense bro
He was the adult, newsflash most teenagers don't clean by themselves that's why they have a responsible adult to teach them, be an example and make them clean up as needed so that hopefully by the time they reach 18 they know the importance of it...Megan is being held accountable but her father should have been held accountable as well (providing what the mother said is true).
Hope the cats are in a good home.
I'm sure they're not.
Hopefully the cats were in a healthy state to be put in good homes…
@Janel Buckley - idotoo - I think Austin went to the home and got them.
This woman likely has narcissistic personality disorder. Her emotions while testifying are inappropriate to the situation, and she seeks to blame her ex-husband for his terrible fate. The brother testified that his sister called him while he was at the hospital to tell him to get the PIN for their father's credit card. He said she showed no concern that their father was seriously injured and in the hospital. It seems that the mother has conditioned the daughter to be self centered and manipulative and vindictive. The daughter retaliated against her father because he did not meet her demands. It is easy to imagine the mother encouraging her daughter to be flippant and vindictive.
why was she allowing her underage daughter to live with this "father"? what kind of good mother does that? why is she slurring her speech? the mother is creepy.
Legal custody? Perhaps she didn't have any choice in the matter?
Court orders, sadly!!! My daughter @ 13 wanted to live with her Dad who never paid child support & only saw her once a year. I had NO CHOICE but let her go, according to the law children @ 13 are legally allowed to malke there own decisions. The first year she was with him...she missed 109 days of school, he ended up a Crack head & showed her a lifestyle she never knew existed 😢 She's an adult now & scarred for life & it's because of Children's Aid Services who believe "children @ 13" know what they need & mature enough to make the right decisions for themselves.... it's terrible!!!!!
@@jaqikennedy9990I’m so sorry. That doesn’t sound right.
@@jaqikennedy9990 I'm so sorry. Yeah the courts and the schools are doing terrible damage to the youth. I'm so sorry!
She seems reasonable and rational to me. Regardless of why the kids were there doesn’t change the fact that they were living with in an environment that had to be hell on them mentally. Sounds like the son trauma bonded and the daughter lashed out. It’s a sad situation.
This woman is a real piece of work. She is loving the fact that she is sticking it to her x- husband. She purposely went over there to take pictures, because she thought it was her duty to make sure her ex was treated properly - give me a break, you idiot!! The Judge and Prosecutor can see right through her.
I feel really sorry for people who think they know more than they do. Unintelligent and think they know what others think as they make stuff up. Epitome of an unfortunate mind.
I'm still watching her testimony! She is a real piece of trash!!!
You should be a lawyer. You have incredible skill if indeed you know what the judge and prosecutor can see.
Your jumping to conclusions quite a bit...
The red flag for me is describing someone being so happy to be injured in hospital ummm
I imagine he was out if it on pain meds and alcohol. His mood doesn't explain anything, imo.
Why did none of the kids clean the house?
How did he get custody if he was a drunkard?
I see why they divorced. This woman is something else.
Why would Meghan be allowed to use her dad’s credit card if she was given permission by her father then he would have given her all the information she would need to use it I would think.
Guess what… not everyone gets an eighteenth birthday party. And it’s certainly no reason to maim her father for not providing one. It sounds to me like this man had grieving, addiction problems that needed his family’s support.
Grieving? In any case it's hardly right to expect a 17 going on 18 year old to be the more mature care giver etc and not unrealistic to expect to be transported at that age, from the sounds of it it sounds like the arguments were more than that...17 year olds generally can't be mature enough to deal with drunks who are supposed to be the parent/responsible adult, a lot of adults 21+ can't deal with that.
@@ryanfraser167 I agree, well said
@@ryanfraser167 I guess that excuses what she did. I was out on my own at 15 and I didn't murder anyone. Cookie please.
@@GretchenAmyReilly 🍪
@@rosierambo144 thank you 😊
18 and therefore an adult. Was wondering why she kept saying "another adult"....
I was thinking the same. She was implying something, but not sure what. This is an emergency and she is there to get a phone. Why is she roaming around with this "other adult"
She wanted to make sure she didn't get blamed for doing something she didn't do so she took a witness.
18 with an underdeveloped brain and lack of ability to predict consequences of her actions.
She implied that at 18 he was responsible because he was an adult. But her daughter was 18 as well so this will backfire.
Same
Hmmmmm interesting. This woman has a cane and can slowly get around in normal condition. How did she manage to get around an entire “hoarders” house then? 🥴🤔
Well, this is the "mom", what do you expect?!
I wish I knew why the 2 older kids wanted to live with the drunk, dirty hoarder dad !! My parents are sober hoarders and I couldn't wait to get out of the house !!! Lots of mental issues with hoarders.
Teenagers who’ve never lived clean don’t know any better sometimes. Also, teens who want to run the streets and live the “free” life don’t care.
God bless you!!! I am so sorry for the pain you have endured. 💔
Those teens know between clean and not. They are lazy and can't help their dad. They know the difference. Just lazy. Use to it or not...they know better. If that was my dad, I would take care of him and clean...pick up the cat poo...etc....it doesn't matter if he's drunk or a hoarder. Thats your dad!
They did for the lack of rules and easy credit card access
Mother seems to enjoy being there.
Your daughter she’s grown she should be able to clean up the house regularly.
She went to the house before the hospital. She says she was looking for his phone and any chemicals that could have caused his burns. How did she know to be looking for chemicals at that time? And why was she taking pictures? Did her son tell her on the phone that his dad had chemical burns? Just a little confusing.
ok.... nevermind. Question answered later in her testimony...
She thinks she’s coming across well,she isn’t,the way she thinks she’s manipulating everyone is just embarrassing for herself. This is how she’s got her way her whole life. Truly pathetic
Why did you not teach your daughter to clean, mother dearest.
Megan was an adult not a 2 yr old. She chose to live there and if the filth was so bad she was more than capable to help clean up the place. This is no excuse for what she did. Mother making excuses. Megan got what she deserved. Mother is a real piece of work.
The mother's testimony is rehearsed.
Why she laughing whats funny
Her mom brought some joy in Megan's time of need
@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx yet her ex husband was so bad she never took her daughter into her own home.
sounds like a nervous laugh to me...
@@dgrei320 only when describing the bad conditions of the house 🤷🏻♀️
I saw the photos and testimony from Officer Hunter, and there was a bottle on the couch. It was photographed. Yet when mom went to the house, she saw no bottle??
She is way to strange!
‘I never saw a white bottle’ she said. But she has a complete recollection of the state of every single room and the freezer door opened… stop lying, lady
Lock her up, then lets see if she'll keep that same smug smirk on her face & no fucks given energy!?! She's was old enough to change her situation. No excuses can be made here. And anyone defending her behavior, must have had a pretty privileged life to have such an outlook. People go though way worse and know better then to burn someone alive with Drain cleaner. And then want said victims $ to go party at 18 years old!? WTAF Absolutely insanity!
But hotter than you.
The mothers testimony didn't sit well with me (which i already figured). why didn't she fight for custody of ALL thr children if her ex husband was a hoarder and an alcoholic?! 🤬 This could've been prevented
I wonder if she only fought for custody of her biological kids, not the adopted kids.
18jrs. Old and to lazy to clean the house, REALLY!!!
The defendant had the option to live with her mother, but chose to live in a horrible living situation. What makes sense to me is that her mom’s house had rules & accountability, but her dad didn’t have any rules.
Well apple doesnt fall far from the tree, like Mother like daughter.
Terrible for me to say but just assuming their family dynamics as a whole: I am wondering if it’s possible the mother may have been just as relieved the kids chose to be with their father. Lots more I feel went on in this girls 17 years of life that the just will likely never know.
She is acting like it's the victim's fault! She just acts pretty happy for being in court and the situation being so serious!
😂
I wonder why she roamed the entire house if just looking for a phone? This wasn’t her place.
You know what, when a house is that disgusting and you know your kids are residing there... I would totally take note of every room. Like a real life horror set !!
I wouldnt have let my kids stay there period
Sad to imagine that noone took action into getting a clean up at least once a month.
She was observing the area, looking for chemicals so she could help.her ex husband
@@thatcanadianchick7589she clearly knew the condition of the house and her kids were residing there and she's talking crap about her murdered ex husband? Some people don't see how the seem to others I guess.
😮 OMG now I see we’re the daughter got her selfless caring personality from!
They didn't teach this kids to be clean. A messy house
5:05 “As a ski patroller for 23 years, its important to know what he was burned by so he can be treated properly for those burns.”
Am I missing something? I don’t ski but I feel like chemical burns has to be quite low on the list of concerns for administering first aid to skiers. I feel like she just threw that in there because she was upset they didn’t ask her about her professional background and she wanted to sound impressive.
Same
She doesn’t look fit enough to be a ski patroller.
Something is very wrong here. I mean obviously the whole situation is wrong but this woman is giving me very creepy vibes.
So coquettish about the adult she got to accompany her to the Crime Scene.
What real mother would be this bubbly and full of herself at her daughter’s MURDER TRIAL 🤦♀️ wtf world is she living in
After living with her, I see why Conrad had a drinking problem..yeesh...😖
Man... Im not speaking from what I think of this case in a legal stand point but I grew up like this and it's pure chaos. I'm actually kinda curious abt the father saying it was flea powder bc that sounds so close to what my own dad did. He thought any poison was flea powder and both me and my dog got sick from it. He literally dumped it on a mouse and killed it within minutes. Idk what it was but I know it wasn't meant for what he used it as and he definitely just left it around. Its hard when your that young and live in such a volatile environment. No matter the case I feel for those kids
She's a teenager she knew that with her dad she could get away with stuff cuz he's always drunk right that's it
You don’t know her childhood or how she was raised. Kids don’t all of a sudden know how to be adults. Clearly parents failed taking time nourishing and educating their children to become productive adults.
STOP judging. You sound like an internet troll with a pretend psychology degree.
When my husband and I was divorced, our 2 preteens (at the time) lived with their dad. Due to finances and keeping them in their same school and grandparents nearby, we felt it was the best for everyone. I still saw them several times during the week. I kept an eye on everything, whether it was cleanliness of the house, what they ate and their school grades. When they were teens, they chose to live with me. This woman angers me with her acting so detached with what happened. She seems to find humor in what ended up in the death of her ex and the entire situation. She’s almost as much to fault as her daughter is. There’s no way, a loving and responsible mother would let her children live in such filth and with an alcoholic dad. Her daughter didn’t become evil over night. She clearly didn’t have any rules or responsibilities or live in a healthy environment. 🤬
You would think that at 17 years old the daughter would know how to clean. 🙄
Did this ma. Have life insurance?? She seems ok with him
Being dead… giggling give me a break omg this world 🌎 is going crazy
How do these court tv shows have no quality experience in audio production?
😂 exactly
She's guilty. Who else would walk in that house and throw lye on this guy. No one. She might have thought it was just to maime him, and did not realize it would kill him eventually. She's responsible.
Is she detective? Or police? What did she look all in House?
A lot of laughing 🫤
I Agree "Sunny" a lot of laughing a lot of "Um" "Um" "Um"...Um WTF...✨🎇
Really. Take your kids back or get them help!
Let them live like that is unreal. Horrible mother. Call someone for help
Very sad… She literally killed her own father….. The man was an alcoholic who had lost the ability to do anything but exist is my presumption.. I could be completely wrong about that, but there’s no doubt he was an alcoholic…. If he had managed to get into recovery 😢🫤 maybe he’d still be alive…. We all hear so much about drugs and the hundreds of thousands of overdoses per year, but we hear crickets when its Legal.. R.I.P. Conrad … and peace to those who loved him 💯
i agree completely, and part of the problem is that bc alcohol is legal, it is socially accepted and easier to obtain than any "illicit" substance, advertising and liquor stores everywhere. That has got to make recovery that much harder.
disclaimer: i drink alcohol, i am not saying lets go back to prohibition, but had to comment bc excellent point, i have thought about this in the same way you do.
Listening and not knowing anything about this case, the fact that her kids are named Morgen and Ian is sending me! I'm an older sister and my younger brother is named Ian..uncanny lol
I feel like there was so much stuff in that house that maybe she didn’t even take the time to check to see what she was throwing. I can’t see her wanting him to die (by her hands, anyway). An awful situation. I hope the jury shows mercy.
Are you for real? She had to mix the powdered lye with water to activate it and throw on him. I think you know when you throw a chemical powder on someone. Not to mention, if you somehow accidentally did that you would try to wash it off or call for help, not just leave them there to burn.
And yeah she probably didn't mean to kill him. She was pissed and thought he'd wake up when it started to burn but he didn't. Probably a dumbass who didn't think about how quickly those chemicals can damage someone. She intended to harm him and as a result he died. That's all they need to prosecute
How does anyone know how they react when mold is present??? Especially when you can't see it most of the time?
That poor man was too drunk to realize his skin was burning & get in the shower
The girl was turning 18 and didn’t help around the house? The mom is what the Bible describes when speaking of demons.
The mother is creepy and negligent.
wow mom laughs at a murder trial...no sympathy for the victim..now we all see where Megan gets her traits
Many of us are "blaming" Mom for not getting the 2 older kids due to their Dad's living conditions. IMO, if the 2 oldest WANTED to be with their Dad due to WHATEVER...had Mom insisted they return to her...those kids would have made everyones life a living HELL!! If the filth wasn't acceptable to the kids...they'd have begged Mom to come get them!!
The mother stated how unkept the house was the dad was working 3 jobs and there were grown teens in the home why didn't they clean the house to help their dad? Oh I forgot because she killed him!
Austin may think his father's drinking was normal for how Austin lived it. Like others who experience how their family lives, they believe this is normal, whether it's abuse of family members or abuse of alcohol etc...
I agree, and Austin seemed overly sensitive to talk of alcohol use by father.
Totally agree
exactly he's brainwashed and lied for his father on that stand
Yes. He quipped "Everybody drinks" on the stand. This is truly his impression. This is sad in itself
This is woman is heartless 😮 the father wanted to protect his daughter i feel very sorry for the father
Mother-of-the-year