Now let's be accurate, this is a show about what we learned from the people who spend their life staring at corpses. I don't think I've ever seen them do an episode on things that are still in the process of dying, presumably because the corpse watchers don't like all the screaming.
@@melvinshine9841 their skin is very delicate, as they need it to absorb water through their skin. Unlike these ancient ones, today's amphibians not only need water to breed, but also to stay alive as adults. They don't have scales or tough skin to keep water in. So they are restricted to water. Because of this permeable skin, salt can easily damage because of how easily it is absorbed through water. And without proper salt filtering kidneys or organs, the salt becomes toxic. That's not to say salt water amphibians might not appear again. If the right selective pressures are made available, then such amphibians might just evolve independently again given enough time.
You are correct sir! The higher salinity of ocean water will pull water out of modern amphibians (and most freshwater fish) too quickly for them to replenish it. Mainly due to how poorly their skin tends to hold in water to begin with.
How come I see your comments on different channels and different videos? Is it because I probably commented under one of your comments and now RUclips thinks we're friends?
Idea: Learn to use an egg "I was already doing that" Use a stronger egg. Put water in it. Have the baby, on land, in the egg, water is in the egg, baby in the egg, in the water, in the egg. Works for me. _bye bye ocean_
@Madalin Grama True but there were a pretty wide variety of species, including land dwellers. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they had vocalizations.
My sister moved out to the country where she thought it would be quiet. In the spring the frogs mate and it is just a cacophony for about a month. His line at the end about the frogs made me think of this.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 I heard about that. There's more: some are starting to actually socialize, due to evolutionary pressure caused by us, and they are making nests together, which seems to be an odd behavior
"Fans of this channel will know that the permian ended 252 million years ago" amm... yeah sure... i know that. Just a regular fan here that knows stuff
The Permian ended REALLY DRAMATICALLY 252 million years ago...along with almost everything else. Look up "The Great Dying"; it's...interesting. Actually look up the Permian in general--the "mammal-like reptiles" are awesome, related to us, and an entire sub-group that aren't around anymore.
I really enjoy the content on this channel. I'm a Geologist so it's all very interesting to me. Can I make one small suggestion though, I appreciate having more context and in particular where subjects are located in the world at any given time in history. Could you perhaps add more locality maps (with the continental reconstructions at given time periods as base maps) for each of your fossil mentions or rock formation descriptions? It would help people visualize where things existed on Earth in the past. Thanks and keep up the great work!
This channel is so wholesome, with an amazing amount of information condensed into ten minute videos, great level of information with a good amount of science added in, its relaxing music, silly jokes and likable presenters (all of you!). Keep it up, I love it!
It's very hard to get fossils for small arthropods, they don't preserve well unless you get rare stuff like amber or things like the Messle shale. As such we don't really know, which is a shame.
We have some. Some of the earliest "spiders" come from the carboniferous period, mygalomorph spiders, which include modern day tarantulas, come from this period and we know of some true spiders from the end of the Jurassic period and the Cretaceous period. It's likely they evolved from sea-whip scorpions that lived along side other arachnid ancestors like Brontoscorpio.
@The Adronator - I saw a show ("Nature"?) that discussed modern spiders. I remember them remarking on spiders in meadows where there are maybe 1,000 or so per square meter.
Very interesting and enjoyable. I love it when modern researchers admit that they don't know, or aren't sure, or 'there is a gap' It reassures me that the information is genuine. Respect and greetings from Auckland New Zealand 🇳🇿! NZ used to be part of Gondwana land, we still have many rocks and vestigial flora and fauna from that time. I'd love to see a programme about what we have here! The Tuataras, that pre-dated the dinosaurs and survived the Cambrian great dying for example.
This channel is one of the best ever! It is pretty interesting to consider the possibility that the Gymnophiona (Caecilians) may have had a separate evolutionary origin than the Caudata (Salamanders) and Anura (Frogs). You guys should do videos on some of the more obscure yet very important animal phyla out there and their evolutionary origins: Bryozoa, Annelida, Brachiopda, Nemertea, Hemichordata, Nematoda, Priapulida, Rotifera, Platyhelminthes, etc...
Learning about all of this just makes me appreciate how incredibly rare and beautiful the story of life is. How amazing it is that one planet in the vastness of the universe created such diverse, sometimes otherworldly, and yet all essential animals and life.
I think that I recognize one of the pictures of Metoposaurus as a speciment form Krasiejow in Poland, the last one. I used to volunteer in excavations at that site, and I recognize the skeleton.
You know, there's something humble about the last member of the temnospondyls living in a secluded part of the world, just trying to enjoy life. Only to meet its inevitable doom
I love amphibians, so this was a great choice for an episode! Can you do a follow up on how frogs, toads, salamanders, newts, and caecilians all diverged from each other?
I think that would have to wait until there's agreement on where the three surviving amphibian lineages originated, and whether L:issamphibia is even a clade.
I really have to say that after following you guys for a while now, this is the best RUclips channel you guys from sci show and Hank Green's crew have created to date. I'm so glad you guys teemed up with pbs to create this project, because it's been a real joy to watch progress.
I absolutely love when he does the episode about the different animals. His presentation is so refreshing. So wonderful. And when he pulled out the phone & told it to remind him to do an episode for us on a specific topic. I'd like to know more about flowers & what the oldest fossil known is. I love flowers, bees, butterflies. 😊🐝🦋🌻
I love you guys so much but I had to put this out in the world lol, you mentioned red-backed salamanders in 1:42 but then proceeded to show an eastern red-spotted newt. Now that I have indulged in my pedantry, my soul is now released from its coil
I wish so incredibly badly that I could go back in time in some sort of space/time-bubble where I couldn't affect anything and vice-versa so I could see all the critters that used to exist. Imagine all the ones we don't even know of that filled unique niche parts of the ecosystems.
Thanks for this episode! Amphibians often get shuffled out of the way when talking about earth's evolutionary history; it's difficult to find information about their amazing adaptations and evolution. Keep up the good work!
This channel makes my inner child so excited every time I receive a notification that there is a new video. Love it, with the videos were a bit longer tho lol
Found this in my recommendations and within the first minute I hear the term "armor-plated KILLERS", uuuusually a sign to switch to a more credible documentary. But this time I'm glad I stayed.
Thanks, Blake, for yet another interesting and entertaining episode. The artwork that Ceri Thomas provides is beautiful and helps us all get a better idea of what these animals all looked like.
I appreciate that he called Dimetrodon a stem mammal. I'm sick of people just calling every early tetrapod that's not an amphibian a "reptile"; it gives a completely wrong hierarchical view of evolution.
So it’s important to know that amphibians were one of the first animals to conquer land and now we are hunting them to near extinction for development.
Yes. All the crazy extinct elephants alone would make a great video. Add to that how, when, and why they diverged and where the separation from what would become hyraxes would be amazing!
I love Dimetrodons there was a picture of one in my dinosaur book and it looked really happy. and so does 5:21 :D if I lived in the Permian I would have a pet one
Thanks for another great video! I look forward to every Eons episode and I especially love the ones that introduce me to things I'd never known, like this one has.
I really loved that you pulled back and showed the scale of one of the creatures in relation to the narrator--I'd love to see you do that more often!!!!
Wow, y'all really are the greatest. I noticed this in my feed while taking a break from researching the ecological pressures on early amphibian diversification and smiled wider than I have all week! As always, beautifully informative and accessible. Please keep it up!
If you camp here in Florida, you can hear gigantic bull alligators calling out at night. They're so loud, the entire forest shuts up in fear, including the campers. I can only imagine what these giant amphibians would have sounded like when they called out.
A new video of EONS???? YES! HELL YEEEEES!! I'm so happy! Guys, who makes the music you use during your episodes? And also, you are awesome!, thank you for making my day a lot better!
I have some fossils of these guys...it started with a set of fossil footprints from 330M years ago...among the first to come ashore. Yes, amphibians (my brachiosaurus) were limited by their need to lay wet eggs...the egg evolved until dinosaurs were laying shelled eggs in dry nests...the dino’s were then free to roam the land...many of those died out before the famous Jurassic Park guys evolved (my keichiosaurus). The egg technology was the key....of course primates give live birth, as do some present-day reptiles and some fish. The evolutionary “plan” astonishes me.
All the hosts on this channel are just so kind and likeable
Indeed, but they should slow down a bit, i'm getting palpitation by just trying to follow their talking speed.
Thraazon 1976
I’ve found that turning on captions helps me understand what they’re saying, even though I hear reasonably well.
They're also really nice in real life as well! Got the pleasure to meet many of the PBS team in Anaheim last summer.
Neal Sterling *in settings, turn playback speed down a notch, might help*
Especially Blake!
Funny how a show about everything dying can make one feel so alive with wonder :)
Makes me wish I could become a God with my own planet and just observe life and such ^^
Tragoudistros.MPH I guess so
Wow that is dark
Now let's be accurate, this is a show about what we learned from the people who spend their life staring at corpses. I don't think I've ever seen them do an episode on things that are still in the process of dying, presumably because the corpse watchers don't like all the screaming.
HHAHAHAGAGAGAGAGAHAHQHAHQHHAHAHAHAHAH...HAHAHAHQHA.
*Crazy to imagine there was such thing as salt water amphibians.*
I think modern amphibians can't handle salt water because it has an adverse effect on their skin. I can't remember how it works.
@@melvinshine9841 maybe because it will dry out due to osmosis?
@@melvinshine9841 their skin is very delicate, as they need it to absorb water through their skin. Unlike these ancient ones, today's amphibians not only need water to breed, but also to stay alive as adults. They don't have scales or tough skin to keep water in. So they are restricted to water. Because of this permeable skin, salt can easily damage because of how easily it is absorbed through water. And without proper salt filtering kidneys or organs, the salt becomes toxic.
That's not to say salt water amphibians might not appear again. If the right selective pressures are made available, then such amphibians might just evolve independently again given enough time.
You are correct sir! The higher salinity of ocean water will pull water out of modern amphibians (and most freshwater fish) too quickly for them to replenish it. Mainly due to how poorly their skin tends to hold in water to begin with.
doesn't surprise me, frogs tend to try eating anything that can fit in their mouths.
Don't forget to make a video about placentas.
How come I see your comments on different channels and different videos?
Is it because I probably commented under one of your comments and now RUclips thinks we're friends?
Really wish it was made by now, im really curious why live birth developed
And how Hollywood freaks cook their babies placentas like a steak on the BBQ?
I just went looking, and I didn't find it.😭 So either it's forgotten, or I just missed it.
still waiting buddy
Idea: Learn to use an egg
"I was already doing that"
Use a stronger egg. Put water in it. Have the baby, on land, in the egg, water is in the egg, baby in the egg, in the water, in the egg.
Works for me.
_bye bye ocean_
I literally scrolled into the comments section specifically to look for this comment so I could thumbs up it.
+
We can make a religion out of this
@@nathanross7448 No, don't
@anime fantasy123 the sun is a deadly laser
We're getting closer to a whole episode dedicated to the evolution of the egg.
Eggcellent.....
Why why why
S T O P
How Eggciting 😁
Eggsactly. It should be Eggstrordinary.
@@iainburgess8577 would*
Imagine those giants croaking in the evenings. Metal concerts would have nothing on them and no sleep for anybody.
Koolasuchus sounds like a pretty good name for a Garage Band.
ruclips.net/video/wYps-kGPh78/видео.html
@Madalin Grama True but there were a pretty wide variety of species, including land dwellers. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary if they had vocalizations.
"But by now you know, all success is fleeting"
--Motivational speech by Blake
My sister moved out to the country where she thought it would be quiet. In the spring the frogs mate and it is just a cacophony for about a month. His line at the end about the frogs made me think of this.
you keep calling that thing weird names when it's obviously a quagsire
and mudkip
Whooper~
I had the exact same thought at first lol
wich thing are you referring to
Probably the quagsire
Fun fact: "newt" used to called "ewt", but people said the phrase "an ewt" so much that the N got stuck.
Very nice
"She turned me into an ewt!"
"An ewt?!"
"...I got better."
@@RJALEXANDER777 BURN HER!
Lol! The reverse happened to an apple = a naple
An ewt is a newt, of course, of course.
Could you do a video on Molluscs and their evolution? I think that would really interesting.
Walking with dinosaurs nostalgia anyone?
I think you'll find that that video is about cephalopods, and mollusks comprise much more than just cephalopods.
There is an idea that some cephalopods might become land dwellers and some of them maybe our successors as a civilization building species.
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 I heard about that. There's more: some are starting to actually socialize, due to evolutionary pressure caused by us, and they are making nests together, which seems to be an odd behavior
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 - I would agree with you, since they are so very highly intelligent, except that they have such a cruelly short life span.
I just love how Blake embraces his awkward hyperactiveness. Never change and keep drinking coffee.
"Fans of this channel will know that the permian ended 252 million years ago" amm... yeah sure... i know that. Just a regular fan here that knows stuff
Noooooooooooooob
The Permian ended REALLY DRAMATICALLY 252 million years ago...along with almost everything else. Look up "The Great Dying"; it's...interesting. Actually look up the Permian in general--the "mammal-like reptiles" are awesome, related to us, and an entire sub-group that aren't around anymore.
@@robinchesterfield42 i knew about the Great Dying, just didn't know the exact year lol
@@diegog1853 ikr same
I really enjoy the content on this channel. I'm a Geologist so it's all very interesting to me. Can I make one small suggestion though, I appreciate having more context and in particular where subjects are located in the world at any given time in history. Could you perhaps add more locality maps (with the continental reconstructions at given time periods as base maps) for each of your fossil mentions or rock formation descriptions? It would help people visualize where things existed on Earth in the past. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Marchismo 85 I wish. Honestly my biggest problem with dying is that I won’t get to see all of the new animals and evolutions of the future
Can we get a prehistoric Australia video? At least Megalania!
no idea what you're talking about
At, the very least they're acknowledge Australia's existence.
You just read my mind
I would like a video on prehistoric marsupials as well.
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES- *YES*
This channel is so wholesome, with an amazing amount of information condensed into ten minute videos, great level of information with a good amount of science added in, its relaxing music, silly jokes and likable presenters (all of you!). Keep it up, I love it!
A wholesome channel full of mass-extinctions lol
@@NelsonDiscovery - And vicious carnivores, like T-Rex, Bear-Dogs, and Bone Crushing Dogs.
Great episode. Nobody talks about the giant amphibias very often.
And yet they’re one of the coolest groups of animals to have their turn at reigning on earth.
Still would really love to see the evolution of spiders.
It's very hard to get fossils for small arthropods, they don't preserve well unless you get rare stuff like amber or things like the Messle shale.
As such we don't really know, which is a shame.
No! Just… NO!
@@MerkhVision why not? they're fascinating little creatures
We have some. Some of the earliest "spiders" come from the carboniferous period, mygalomorph spiders, which include modern day tarantulas, come from this period and we know of some true spiders from the end of the Jurassic period and the Cretaceous period. It's likely they evolved from sea-whip scorpions that lived along side other arachnid ancestors like Brontoscorpio.
@The Adronator - I saw a show ("Nature"?) that discussed modern spiders. I remember them remarking on spiders in meadows where there are maybe 1,000 or so per square meter.
As a Scot, I am so proud to learn that Amhibians first evolved in our primeval swamps here in Scotland. Nessie is their most renowned descendant.
SCOTLAND!!!!!!
Nessie or not, Scotland is also home to the even more important Lizzie.
I like how you actually credit other makers work unlike most other science channels! This was also very informative
You guys should do a video on prehistoric crocodilian diversity.
I would definitely watch an episode on placentas
Please you can do a video about how rhinos got ther horns?
Its great that you show both metric and imperial, too many american channels only show imperial.
Thanks for another great episode :D
0:19 - I remember Koolasuchus still with time of my childhood then I watched "Walking with Dinosaurs" (5 series).
I love amphibians, especially salamanders. Ancient amphibians have always fascinated me, thanks for the video!
Very interesting and enjoyable. I love it when modern researchers admit that they don't know, or aren't sure, or 'there is a gap' It reassures me that the information is genuine.
Respect and greetings from Auckland New Zealand 🇳🇿!
NZ used to be part of Gondwana land, we still have many rocks and vestigial flora and fauna from that time.
I'd love to see a programme about what we have here! The
Tuataras, that pre-dated the dinosaurs and survived the Cambrian great dying for example.
This channel is one of the best ever! It is pretty interesting to consider the possibility that the Gymnophiona (Caecilians) may have had a separate evolutionary origin than the Caudata (Salamanders) and Anura (Frogs). You guys should do videos on some of the more obscure yet very important animal phyla out there and their evolutionary origins: Bryozoa, Annelida, Brachiopda, Nemertea, Hemichordata, Nematoda, Priapulida, Rotifera, Platyhelminthes, etc...
Learning about all of this just makes me appreciate how incredibly rare and beautiful the story of life is. How amazing it is that one planet in the vastness of the universe created such diverse, sometimes otherworldly, and yet all essential animals and life.
I think that I recognize one of the pictures of Metoposaurus as a speciment form Krasiejow in Poland, the last one. I used to volunteer in excavations at that site, and I recognize the skeleton.
You know, there's something humble about the last member of the temnospondyls living in a secluded part of the world, just trying to enjoy life. Only to meet its inevitable doom
I love amphibians, so this was a great choice for an episode! Can you do a follow up on how frogs, toads, salamanders, newts, and caecilians all diverged from each other?
I think that would have to wait until there's agreement on where the three surviving amphibian lineages originated, and whether L:issamphibia is even a clade.
I really have to say that after following you guys for a while now, this is the best RUclips channel you guys from sci show and Hank Green's crew have created to date. I'm so glad you guys teemed up with pbs to create this project, because it's been a real joy to watch progress.
I just discovered PBS Eons, and I love it! It's so interesting, with cool pictures and descriptions. I'll be visiting often, thank you!
Looking forward to the placenta episode, eons is on a role lately
A video about the *evolution of sexual reproduction* would be interesting.
Already did.
ruclips.net/video/qsn4z7bNb14/видео.html
@@edthurber6265
Oh, thank you, didn't notice that one
I don't care to have documentarians following me all about, but appreciate the thought....
One usually does not hear about the evolution of the amphibians. I am glad that this subject is dealt with here!
I absolutely love when he does the episode about the different animals. His presentation is so refreshing. So wonderful.
And when he pulled out the phone & told it to remind him to do an episode for us on a specific topic.
I'd like to know more about flowers & what the oldest fossil known is. I love flowers, bees, butterflies. 😊🐝🦋🌻
I love this video for how the narrator pronounces so many latin names of extinct animals, so easily. Absolutely inspirational!
Could you do a video on the Creodonts and Entelodonts!
I love you guys so much but I had to put this out in the world lol, you mentioned red-backed salamanders in 1:42 but then proceeded to show an eastern red-spotted newt. Now that I have indulged in my pedantry, my soul is now released from its coil
was about to comment the same thing lol
I wish so incredibly badly that I could go back in time in some sort of space/time-bubble where I couldn't affect anything and vice-versa so I could see all the critters that used to exist. Imagine all the ones we don't even know of that filled unique niche parts of the ecosystems.
Thanks for this episode! Amphibians often get shuffled out of the way when talking about earth's evolutionary history; it's difficult to find information about their amazing adaptations and evolution. Keep up the good work!
You guys should do a video on the super early primates like the Purgatorius titusi
Stay tuned! (BdeP)
This channel makes my inner child so excited every time I receive a notification that there is a new video. Love it, with the videos were a bit longer tho lol
Found this in my recommendations and within the first minute I hear the term "armor-plated KILLERS", uuuusually a sign to switch to a more credible documentary. But this time I'm glad I stayed.
This might be one of my favorite Eons videos yet.. Great work!
This channel is what we all need!
I notice that in the artist's renderings, the paintings appear to have grass, which didn't evolve until the late Cretaceous Period.
WHERE IS THE PLACENTA VIDEO!?
honestly, I'm joking however that sounds incredible
6:27 When is that reminder due?! It has been quite a few years!
Adapt to emerging threats or be wiped out. Lesson learned. Thanks for the video.
Thanks, Blake, for yet another interesting and entertaining episode. The artwork that Ceri Thomas provides is beautiful and helps us all get a better idea of what these animals all looked like.
Amazing. Great delivery, subbed and after looking at what else you have done, phew gonna be some hours spent here now. Peace buddy thanks.
I appreciate that he called Dimetrodon a stem mammal. I'm sick of people just calling every early tetrapod that's not an amphibian a "reptile"; it gives a completely wrong hierarchical view of evolution.
Oh man I love this channel. Every single episode blows my mind. Does anyone know where I can get more content like this?
Trey the Explainer and Ben G Thomas also do some interesting paleontology vids
There's an absolute ton of information in each of your amazing videos. Thank you very much!
So it’s important to know that amphibians were one of the first animals to conquer land and now we are hunting them to near extinction for development.
i’ve been binge watching these videos all day
Dude, those joke with your phone is so bad its feels goood LOL
And it came true as well!
This channel should be way more popular
Amphibians>>>>>Everything else
NO. CHOOSE LAND OR WATER. CANT HAVE BOTH.
Corey Taylor LIES
D r . S p u d True
HAVE YOU SEEN PLACEDERMS?
I find it interesting that giant amphibians are still around in both Japan and China
Do a video about elephant evolution please.
Yes. All the crazy extinct elephants alone would make a great video. Add to that how, when, and why they diverged and where the separation from what would become hyraxes would be amazing!
Little is more fascinating than "old models" of life. The out-of-production line, those that were superceded. The Perm and earlier are truly stunning.
I love Dimetrodons there was a picture of one in my dinosaur book and it looked really happy. and so does 5:21 :D
if I lived in the Permian I would have a pet one
Oh what a wonderful world we would be living in if temnopsondyls never went extinct :( the artistic renditions of them are so cute :( I miss them
an episode about placentas. I can't wait for that! call it "the ascension of placentas"
Thanks for another great video! I look forward to every Eons episode and I especially love the ones that introduce me to things I'd never known, like this one has.
Love this channel videos a lot!
Keep going like that guys
P.S. Still waiting that placenta episode 😂
I really loved that you pulled back and showed the scale of one of the creatures in relation to the narrator--I'd love to see you do that more often!!!!
Huh. Really interesting. I learned a lot. I love this series. Thanks for sharing!
I recommended the placenta video a while back in the comments section! So excited for this!
6:31 Awesome! Thank you!
Wow, y'all really are the greatest. I noticed this in my feed while taking a break from researching the ecological pressures on early amphibian diversification and smiled wider than I have all week! As always, beautifully informative and accessible. Please keep it up!
How cool was the koolasuchus?
I would love to see a video about how the reconstruction of the Tylosaurs has changed over time. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for these facts I am 8 years old and I have to learn about dinosaurs at school
As a photographer, I can’t tell you how happy it makes me to see image credits!
Wasn't koolasuchus also in walking with dinosaurs
Loved that show
This channel is so informative, arguably the best decision I’ve made was to follow it
Amniotic eggs...the reason crocodiles replaced giant salamanders...cool!
PBS Eons is the greatest thing to happen to RUclips, and my fascination❤️
Do a video about the giant ground sloths! Megatherium and such
I would love an episode on placentas! What a great evolution to the egg! Great idea Blake.
I so love this channel
He is a golden narrator!
Thank you for finally saying 'niché' properly
Eons is one my favorite RUclips channel! Looking forward to that placentas episode!
I'm loving this show more every episode
If you camp here in Florida, you can hear gigantic bull alligators calling out at night. They're so loud, the entire forest shuts up in fear, including the campers. I can only imagine what these giant amphibians would have sounded like when they called out.
Episode on monotremes would be pretty cool
jjhuerta100 kool
A new video of EONS????
YES!
HELL YEEEEES!!
I'm so happy!
Guys, who makes the music you use during your episodes?
And also, you are awesome!, thank you for making my day a lot better!
Koolasuchus cleelandi, named after
Leslie Kool: the preparer of the fossils
Mike Cleeland: the finder of the fossils at Inverloch. Great person too.
I have some fossils of these guys...it started with a set of fossil footprints from 330M years ago...among the first to come ashore. Yes, amphibians (my brachiosaurus) were limited by their need to lay wet eggs...the egg evolved until dinosaurs were laying shelled eggs in dry nests...the dino’s were then free to roam the land...many of those died out before the famous Jurassic Park guys evolved (my keichiosaurus). The egg technology was the key....of course primates give live birth, as do some present-day reptiles and some fish. The evolutionary “plan” astonishes me.
AMPHIBIAN SCEINCE IS GREAT
Imagine when we come across those giant amphibians today. That could really blow our minds.
Still waiting for that episode on placentas...
I can't find any images of larval stages of temnospondyl, please someone tell me that we used to have axolotls multiple meters long