I remember a news story some time ago about how the city of Long Beach was planning to evict people who lived on boats at or near this marina. The city was angry because they didn't pay property taxes as those who lived on dry ground did. Many of these people were retirees and disabled who lived on a pension, and had called these boats home for years. The ones whose boats were operational relocated. Those whose boats no longer had working engines or intact sails were evicted and had their boats confiscated by the city. So, these boats weren't occupied by squatters, they were occupied by people who had a fixed income and were barely able to get by month to month. I suppose they all live in tents on the sidewalk now. Good going Long Beach.
No, not these boats. Maybe that was the case in the past but these boats were vacant and abandoned for a long time before they go to the auction. The marina gives a lot of chance to pay your slip fees and make it right. I’m not saying nobody got evicted or saying the government isn’t brutal but these boats sit in an area for over a year before they make it to auction. Just setting it straight. Thanks for watching and the story. Cheers!
Thanks Richard. I have a boat so I can’t buy them 😂 also it’s painful to see them go to salvage so I’m trying to promote them getting a second (3rd, 4th or 5th) life. Cheers bro!
As an Aussie I'll tell you Americans that you are the luckiest people on earth in so many ways, but especially being able to buy a yacht dirt cheap, that a few K spent and some elbow grease will give you a live aboard blue water cruiser. Americans are blessed
Ericson 31' looks ok. You can buy one of these boats for a few hundred and spend $20,000 restoring it, or you can buy a nicely maintained boat (30') for $10,000.
Cool video! I picked up a C&C Encounter 26 at a Boat Angel Auction for $660 total cost (bid + $300 admin fee). She was floating and had a running Yanmar diesel so I took the leap. I was fortunate that the marina allowed me to stay and fix her up on the spot, to include about 4 ft of top side deck replacement. She has definitely been more of a project than expected but I have not seen one for sail for less than $10k so I'm happy with the deal. Ive had her out a few times to see how she does and have her tell me what she needs. Was just USCG inspected on Friday so ready for a lot more underway time on the Chesapeake Bay this year! Good luck to all that try it, it can be done but 1. Expect to be surprised by repairs 2. Learn to see your way through them 3. Be patient as this is not an Amazon purchase that is instantly what you invision... but worth it and rewarding along the way. You will likely spend more on slip fees than anything else every year, do your math and shop for a marina before making the leap. Good video, thanks for posting!
Hey Andy, thank you so much for showing us this and letting us experience it. Never crossed my mind to try auctions, there were 2-3 of them that looked great enough to buy, just needed to fix up a bit.Sad to see all the boats that went to the Salvage guys.
Some of the old Columbias were Charley Morgan designs. Not this one. Not sure who designed it, but prob pre-morgan columbia. This is basically a good boat, (it's going to roll a lot off the wind), but the centerboard is a pain to deal with. The 34 really has no interior pan, just an accomodation built onto the hull, so it would be super- customizeable. Being a trunk cabin, and an older boat, the interior space is narrow and limited. Under power, and especially backing down, it would be surprisingly disappointing compared to boats built after the mid 70's. Never would have a blister problem tho. Likely a lead keel. The best boat of the lot, imho, is the islander. Very sturdy, safe, good fast sea boat. Tiny interior. Many of these were home-built (finished). The Coronado is also going to have an iron keel. Not lead. Looks turn-key, but not a boat I would invest money into, as the resale value is never going to be high. Great way to go sailing without spending much. The Santana 30 is a good fast socal (light air) boat. INBOARD CHAINPLATES! Which should be and are easy to replace. Limited interior compared to your boat, tho. Like a big Santana 27, which can't carry any extra weight, but sails like a bat outta hell. Hey, were you gonna drink that Dr Pepper? Pretty hard to go wrong with a Cal 25, lots of space inside plus a pop-top for lots of headroom. Perfect for Catalina weekends or surfer transport. Been to mexico twice on one. Outboard a pain, but at least you can reach it. Lead keel, no keel bolts. Most fun: the McVay. That's a boat that you just sail and have fun; Especially nice being able to climb aboard after a swim, or for the kids to drag their feet in the water. Lots of room to seat everyone. Sitting that close to the water is just more Fun. The Ericson can't be faulted in any way, except it's probably got an atomic 4. Not the end of the world, really. However, some IOR influence makes it dated, and maybe a tad squirrelly off the wind in heavy air. Speaking of heavy air, many of these boats have 3-axis, bottle goosenecks. So they don't need modern, chunky masts and booms (don't they look a little flimsy? They're not). Importantly, bottle goosenecks are Totally Incompatible with solid boom vangs. And their small diameter booms don't work well with mid-boom preventers. Thee tubes are small diameter, but thick walled. This kind of spar is heavy (= expensive to make). The Pearson 31, which I thought was fractional (this one's masthead), looks more like a 32 to me; either way these sail and power Very Well. As long as it isn't a wing keel model, that is. Wing keels were the worst fad ever. It has that "east coast" look, throughout: high coamings, interior mouldings, I'm going to say it runs a close second to the Islander. Lead Keel. The Cat 30 has a tabernacle mast, perfect for Oxnard (yes, that's a place). Hey, that's my unsolicited 2 cents! Worth every penny it cost you to read! Keep up the good work, your channel is engaging. Thanks.
You're definitely the guy to take to auction. Knowing nothing, most like me would go for anything looking reasonable. I guess the open water is not that forgiving to people who buy with that mindset. Thanks for jotting that down, I'm sure it will make any like me that dream take a reality pill...
Oh Man, that's the first time I see your video, but I like it so much! That's sad ser this old boat so mistreated! I live in countryside Brazil, and in my country these boats would be very well taken care of! I love seaboats, so I see this videos to improve my English! Thank's to share your experiences!😊🎉
Some of these boats were in pretty bad condition. But considering the price and that you literally get everything in them, it seems like the best way to get a used project boat. Some of them look like they came with free power tools. I don't think I would buy anything over 30ft though as small boats are easier to refit.
That is hectic! Great opportunity for people to get on the water over there! Some real steals! Those boats would Auction for thousands of dollars here in Aus.
There is nothing more expensive than a free boat. About the only way I would tackle one of these boats is if the marina gave me free yard time for a year while it was restored.
The default length for a spinnaker (whisker) pole is equal to the distance from the mast to the bow, aka your "J" measurement. Poles that are shorter than "J" will never work well, in your case 11'6". But as a whisker pole, that's always going to be too short. It won't "reach", the boat will only run with such a short pole. Ideal whisker pole length is 112 to 115% of "J". MAX safe whisker pole length is 123% of "J". So, Never shorten a pole that may seem too long. Short poles are simply racing bs (bc long poles are Faster and penalized). The pole you bought is hella better than ANY telescoping pole, because telescoping poles Cannot stay "in column", and are heavy as hek. However, trying to stow this pole against and parallel to your mast will soon break the ends off. It has to be stowed on deck, or, as we did on Liz Clark's "Swell" (shameless name drop) stowed with the bottom end just aft of the fwd lower chainplate, and the inboard (top) end up the mast on a 1-1/4" "T" track. And give the bridles a sea-toss. Just take your pole lift to the outboard end fitting, which would have 3/16" x 1-1/4" ss rings lashed to it to accept the SPTL and Foreguy. Best to use those end fittings with the plunger pin on top, opening like a "U", not opening down like an "n". So, Please don't shorten it! BTW, Cat 30 chainplates should always be replaced every 16 years, and it's a lot easier than you think.
I mentioned Liz's pole setup bc there are so many images of it online, including a north sails ad. That pole was donated to her by singlehanded transpac racer Fred Gamble, off his Islander 40 "Iris", now re-named "Sweet Jessica". Oops, boss man coming, out!
@@martyspargur5281 right when I think I know a thing or two someone (you) busts out a bunch of info that I understand but didn’t know. Lol. Thanks again for sharing. I love learning this stuff. Cheers Marty! Don’t get busted by the boss! 😂
Hi Andy, I just noticed that one of your new poles is telescoping. So, please ignore my riff on telescoping poles, I am always saying the wrong thing. Anyway, if you have a bow sprit your "J" measurement is going to be closer to 13'2" than 11'6" like I think I said. The best inboard end mast attachment for the telescoping pole would be a Forespar PE-1. You can use a SS ring (or a ring mounted on a car, about 1-1/4"), but a regular mast ring can possibly break off the ends of the pole, by binding. You would normally use two of the PE-1 pad eyes, one on each side, instead of one mounted on the front of the mast. That telescoping pole can be rebuilt with new parts so the gripper bands inside don't slip, but I would start by cleaning the pole inside and out with soap and water, and wetsand the plastic bands with 320. That often does the trick. Sometimes you will find WD-40 etc has been sprayed in there. That is counterproductive and destructive to the plastic. A second look at the poles shows that your other, one-piece pole has trigger ends, which can always be saved by a tear-down/ rebuild with the same parts. De-burr the triggers and their slots, and after polishing the triggers soak them overnight in Flood/Skyco Ospho. This goes for any stainless steel on your boat: the way to keep SS from rusting is an acid bath, bc only if oxygen can get at the surface will SS not "rust". Polish your stanchions? Sure. But always wipe on Ospho after cleaning off the residual polish with acetone. Ospho is an electrolyte, so best to not allow it to touch other types of metal or alloys at the same time. But for straight stainless steel, you can soak it as long as you want. After it makes the rust stains disappear, wash w/ fresh water. What you are doing is "passivating" the stainless, changing it from "active" to "passive" by mustering the chromium to the surface, and super cleaning the surface so it can get oxygen. If you want to speed up the process, induce DC current, but I never do. I couldn't see if the solid pole had the same end fittings both ends. Often poles like that will use a toggle pin mast fitting that plugs into a socket on the pole. Trigger ends are for dip-pole gybing, but if both ends have trigger jaws the pole will work for end-for-end gybes as well. If you do decide to end-for-end gybe, keep the bridle so the topping lift will support the pole balanced, but I prefer to take topping lifts straight to the outboard end without the clutter of bridles. You can attach the inboard end to a ring if it's a jaw type, either a car on a track, or something like a RF-41 stationary ring. The height that it's mounted on the mast is determined by what it takes to allow the outboard end to swing down and pass to the other side below your furling drum, without detaching the pole from the ring. The solid pole should work for a whisker pole as well as a spinnaker pole, without shortening it. That's my latest "novel". Thank You.
Right on! Yeah it’s super fun to watch. If you plan on buying one at the next auction do some research on the important things to look for before buying a sailboat (if you don’t know already). Also, you need a place to put it so get on some waiting lists for a boat slip now. Your best bet are the marinas in Wilmington. Just my 2¢. 🤙🏼
I got my Catalina 36 for $750 at a boat auction. Granted it smells bad and needs a new engine but it has a solid hull and can be brought back with a little work. I have the skills, I will find the time and money and soon I will be sailing on the Puget Sound and Salish Sea.
aww man... i wish i knew about this before it happened. i would of been happy to grab one of those and fix it up. it's really hard to find any kind of boat for sale, let alone one i could afford, when you live in the desert 12 hours from the nearest ocean, like i do. being able to get one of those would let me finally start moving towards the life i want instead of being stuck somewhere i hate lol but knowing that this is actually a possibility gives me some hope. i guess i need to look a bit harder for auctions
Stay tuned, there will be another auction around September. I’ll put out an announcement video. If you’re serious then you need to find a place to put it now so that you’re ready. Cheers!
@@sailingsole i am very serious, but ya, that is a concern. i may have to wait until next year since you only have a week before you need to move it. but the main thing that will hold me back is fixing up my house, and focusing on my youtube so i can hopefully use both of those to generate enough money to live off of while fixing up a boat. but ya, i like your content, so ill be checking back in regularly, and maybe ill go to the next auction just to have a look around and get a feel for it. keep up the great work!
ok, if you do a fix it series with all the costs I am really down to sub and watch that would be amazing.. despite getting a cheap "foundation" for the project, the overall costs are the most interesting thing... Cheers.
@@philxdev hey, let me focus a bit more on my camping, hunting, and fishing content where i plan to show people how i do it all for crazy cheap, then once i have done that for a while and gain a decent amount of subscribers so i am able to offset my living costs, then i would be happy to do it. honestly it's one thing i reeeeally want to do
repurposing/renewing a used boat is one way of keeping derelict boats out of our oceans and landfills. Another action that qualifies for our #onemillionboater pledge to change one thing to help protect oceans from pollution. Kudos for promoting these boat auctions!
The Columbia 34 did not sell but I think they cut a deal for the 46. Not sure of that result. I’m my case I bought the boat first then slip but I needed to stay in a temp slip for a couple weeks which was expensive. Back then slips were more available, I think there is a waiting list at most marinas now. You just gotta call them to find out.
The parts alone on many of there boats are worth thousands. But the cost of docking and storage can easily exceed that. And just try to get rid of a stripped hull
Great video, albeit a terrible auction. I thought the auctioneer was pretty bad. I've always wondered how these marine auctions go and I appreciate how you first showed us the boats. Wow though, pretty rough shape on many of them. You bring up a good point about how, if they are purchased they must leave the marina in one week. And where would you take it. A yard first to get your repairs done first I guess but you aren't going to slip it any time soon. Thanks for sharing!
Hey Andy - that was a whole bunch of fun - I wonder why people come out in the rain to an auction and keep their hands in their pockets - there were some amazing bargains to be had - some not so good and money will need to be spent for sure - no free lunch - but so long as one has money to spend on a restoration, some were definitely in the running I thought - the day sail'er looked really fun and there were others like the 31' and 46' that looked interesting... Anyway, Captain America seemed to walk away with quite a few of them - was he a broker or something like that? Thanks for sharing - that was fun!! 👍😄
Thanks! They come out for entertainment, like I did, it’s just fun to look at the boats and see what is being auctioned and see what they sell for. He’s not a broker; he parts them out and recycles the lead in the keels. So in short, he destroys them.
@@sailingsole Yeah, I am sure that the atmosphere must be a lot of fun. It is a pity that guy just destroys boats - whilst there condition was dodgy, I am sure that some of them were viable... anyway - it looked like a cool event to attend 😄
Wow this is really a sign of the times. 3 years ago some of these boats, even in their poor condition, could’ve sold for $20k. Now no one wants to touch them; they’re not worth the moorage fees nor the repair costs to make them seaworthy.
Yeah a few look like they have good bones, and I’m sure they’ll be rebuilt someday. Old pleasure craft have such an interesting lifecycle. Thanks for documenting!
@@wedjr97 You should do it. Check out my follow up video that details some info you need to know and be prepared for before you buy one of those auction boats.
That was fun for sure! I would have bid on that last Catalina 30. I'd first haul it out and check for that Catalina smile, these boats are notorious for keel separating from hull. The rest of it is normal clean and maintenance. These boats are roomy and fun to sail.
@@sailingsole I was willed a 38 foot Columbia by a guy I had only sailed with once. Kept her in Marina del Rey. Had a lot of fun sailing to Catalina Island on her. Once on a downwind run I unfurled the huge spinnaker only to find out it was a Colombian flag. I had the Coast Guard boarding my boat within the hour! Haha Eventually while I was in Micronesia my friend was using the boat and the Keel dropped off in deep water. He was rescued but I had to sell her to a guy who is still living in her in front of the Chart House in Dolphin marina in Marina del Rey. One day my wife and I will lease a nice newer boat and sail the French Polynesian Islands. I’ve learned owning a boat is just too much time and work…although watching your video made me think hard about attending a few local boat auctions. We live above Pillar point Harbor near Half Moon Bay now. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed the video!
Came to say what @gilesburrett3844 already perfectly stated. But still: Thank you so much Andy and Misty (and Sole for letting them check out the auction) for taking the time to show us how the auctions are run. As a SoCal dude near Dana Point, and an hopeful boat owner this year, this gives a TON of fresh hope that a decent boat (I know I know, after a lot of work😊) is attainable. That Columbia 46’ had some real potential. I never thought that boats like these would end up at auction. I’m glad y’all were staying warm and dry. Ok, Sole, you can have them back now and enjoy your new whisker and spinnaker poles! Sunny sailing soon!
Agreed on the 46's as long as her bones were good that would have been the one at that auction worth the time and effort. Wishing you luck on finding your first sail boat...
@@PreacherwithoutaPulpit That Columbia Motorsailer had a lot of potential. Those are the easiest boats in the world to fix. You can do it over time, or pay someone, it costs about the same either way.
I wonder how much they sold that center cockpit for after the auction because I bet someone got a deal on that one. That would be something I'd have snagged if I had a yard lined up ahead of time to get her on the hard and go to work. Fun to see but being in Cali it's just the wrong coast for me. Thanks for the vid...
Holy dear mother of marmalade. I have never witnessed a sailboat auction. Wild. I am sure there is a 27 to 32 foot full keel with a wheel instead of a tiller out there. They look so crazy!!!
I think you have a week to move it and no marinas will rent you a slip without insurance. Insurance is tricky on old boats but even trickier on derelict boat. Marina fees are not $1500 per month though 😂
One that didn't sell had a $400 outboard hanging off the stern. You could pour some money and time in them and have a great boat. Then where do you put it?
At the end of the video it comes on screen. Pause it there to get the web address. Also I’ve posted the link on some other comments but I don’t have it right now.
We rebuilt 4 21ft sail boats in my high school our teacher would have bought everything at that auction and then have us fix them up. I got lucky my school and 2 teachers loved boats
I worked in the yachting industry for years as a young man (1971). commissioning, racing (dingies to 50 footers), maintaining yachts for my employer, Ballena Bay Sailboats/Interyacht West, and my families' boats; from my Tornado Catamaran, in-laws 35' Swedish motor-sailor, and my folk's sail boats and 43' ft cruiser. (all long gone) I would love to buy an older sloop in the 35-40ft range ( 40t being the largest I'd be comfortable single handling, OK 35 would be better, 40 with my grand kids) and I have the skill and funds to restore one... I'm partial to C+Cs., But what I can't afford is the monthly mooring fees in the Pacific NW. which are higher than I ever paid for the mortgage on my houses.
In answer to the inevitable "Why a C&C?" I just noticed Berthon is listing "Phantom", a C&C 66. Check it out. That is sailing perfection. One thing I like about their designs: They do not have one square inch more wetted surface than they need.
Enjoying your videos! They have inspired me to buy a boat and go sailing! Question: After buying a boat, how long can it be docked at that location until a slip can be obtained? Hoping to attend the next auction!
That’s awesome. Do your research and due diligence. You can leave the boat at their dock for one (1) week after the auction and then it needs to leave on your own responsibility to have a place to put it. The next auction is supposed to be in the Fall. Stay tuned, I’ll put out another announcement as soon as I know when but I don’t anticipate knowing anything for a while.
Thanks for this video & sharing this. I didn't know you could buy boats this affordably priced from ranges of 100 to 500+ dollars. An important question prior to buying boats like these is - "from your sailing experience & expertise, if boats like these will be properly fixed, refitted, & restored, do you think they would eventually be sea-worthy for circumnavigation & sailing the Atlantic & Pacific Oceans globally? Or will these be durable enough to sail against the "roaring forties, furious fifties, & screaming sixties," if fixed properly & completely? Coz I am having options open, otherwise I'd rather buy a brand new one.
Such good deals! If I could re-motor electrical.., GM in Washington is "re-motoring" all ribbed boats, you must drill a hole on the block. Never pay again.
Pretty sure that is an early 70's Columbia 45. I don't think there was a 46. They may have rounded up because I think it's LOA was like 45.5 or 45.25ft.
Hello! Just fyi, it’s not my auction. It is held by the City of Long Beach, CA. If you watch near the end of the video a website address will come on the screen to show you where to sign up for their mailing list. Then you’ll be notified when the next auction is. I’m just a spectator at the auction. Cheers!
Thanks for watching Barrett! What list? I’m not sure I know what you are referring to. If you subscribe you should be able to get a notification when I publish new videos. I hope that helps.
It varies depending on inventory. The next one is June 29. I just released an announcement about it. ruclips.net/video/eFdQocWRLw4/видео.htmlsi=Z3SL6HQMeRG0TTWk
It was the Long Beach municipal auction and they will not do it online and ship it to you. That would be a disaster because people likely would bid and not pay or they would not be ready to actually accept the responsibilities that come with owning a boat. I am making a video to explain the details of this auction and the buying process. I hope this video will help answer some questions people have had. Cheers! Andy
The Catalina’s are super good sized sailboats. We used charter an Islander Mark ll in the … drum roll… 1970’s to sail to Catalina for 6 summers. Super awesome sailing videos, many thanks feels like we are there.
Dear Andy & Misty, I would be interested in the auction and have some questions about it. (By the way, I signed up for the notification list, but there was no auction in September. I hope to be notified of the next one.) 1. Can a foreign (EU.) citizen participate in the auction? 2. Do the ships sold come with any kind of ship documents and ship certificates? 3. Can the purchased boats be transported only by land, or by water (towed or sailing)? 4. You mentioned a grace period of a few days for delivery. It is possible to improve the condition of the ship in the port during this time; work on it? If you know, please answer my questions. Thanks.
Hello Ben, Sorry for the late reply. Here are some answers to your questions but you need to do your own due diligence. Call the Long Beach, Shoreline Marina to get the answers you want. 1. I don’t know for sure but I don’t see why not. You likely can bud at the auction. 2. Yes, I believe so. 3. You can transport the boat any way you want. It just needs to leave within one week of the auction. 4. Yes, I believe you can use that one week period to work on it at the marina to get it ready to move. Cheers! I hope this helps! - Andy
I cant believe that cat 30 didnt go higher. Man id kill to get my hands on a boat like that for that price. Looked clean, nice dodger, sails in a cover... man that could have gotten me out sailing quick
I feel ya but it’s more difficult than it looks. Do you have means and a place to take a boat? You have to take it away within one week and all the local marinas are full. I hope you come to the next one and buy a boat. Cheers!
I am an old sailor having had a Catalina 22 as my first boat back around 1978. I found myself feeling sad over the neglect these once beautiful boats suffered. I always wondered how someone could buy a beautiful Catalina 30 and let it become a derelict. All it takes is a well charged battery and a modest solar cell to keep it charged to have the bilge pumps working.
@@waltervega8730 If I was younger, I’d think about buying an old Catalina 30, fixing it up and sailing it to my home in Florida. Alas, I’m in good health but at 73, I don’t have the energy.
Hello. I don’t run the auction or the email list. There is a web address displayed on the video near the end. Pause the video and go to that web address to get on the mailing list. I hope this helps!
A friend of mine got a 27 Catalina back in 8889 and him and his girl were going to Sail it from Michigan to Florida doing the intercoastal one or two of his friends from the yacht club we’re going to sell down with them but because the Hugo and 89 they all backed out him and I didn’t leave Michigan until October 1 which is a bad time to be leaving third day old Lake Erie Was just tons of fun when it up doing the Erie Canal and then the Hudson one We did some of the north Atlantic and the intercoastal ended up getting down to Fort Myers November 26 quite the adventure did it a few years later on a 37 ranger one ton Had roller furling in the main is actually a really nice boat Drew 6/2Second time we sound from Michigan down in North Carolina tons of fun love your channel please let me know about the Options thank you very much God bless
I started travelling around on boats 50 years ago, your comment shows how you can sail on other people's boats and one thing leads to another. Simply showing up in Antigua in may, or Antibes in September, etc, works. You would have to be pretty unpresentable to not get signed on something. Just travel light, alone, have no plans, and try to recognize that the opposite of what you expected could be just what you wanted. THIS is the best way to get into sailing. Few of us were born into sailing. From about 5 years old I knew what I wanted--- to sail away. From the cornfield I lived in.
I don’t know yet. They send out an email around one month in advance. Get on the email list. The url is on screen near the end of the video. Also I’ll post an announcement video if you’re subscribed you should see it. Cheers!
Just came across your channel. This is very interesting and I looked on the long beach website and couldn't find the information for the next auction. Any help is appreciated
Hi Darrell, you just have to sign up for their newsletter. Once you’re on the newsletter, they will send you an email when the auction comes up. If you look in the description of this website, there is a link to their newsletter. I hope this helps.
Love seeing these auctions. I don't know what I would do though with these non-running boats in California. I wonder what that one guy was going to do with all the boats he baught. Are there any working yards a DIY kind of person can fix them up in sothern cali?
@@sailingsole жаль слышать что эти лодки будут распилены на запчасти (, они выглядят как хороший проект для восстановления начинающему яхтсмену, еслиб я был рядом я бы купил одну из этих лодок и подарил бы ей новую жизнь )
I enjoy your video and i tried to keep up with the link at the end but i kept missing it, i can't believe a 46ft boat went that cheap, could you send me how to get on the list for the next sale. Thankyou so much
@@sailingsole I guess i should have thought about that lol, it was a long day what can I say, i hope next auction there will be some bigger boats as well, thanks for responding back to me so quickly
The problem is not really the deals. The problem is that boat you buy for $300 has to leave the marina immediately. Which is why they don't sell. No other marina will accept them. Dirty and unregistered. You have to remove the boat from the water and fix it. Then wait maybe years for a slip to open up. Then pay $700 a month to store your $300 boat. In the end, the marinas usually pay a lot of money to have these boats removed and destroyed.
It must be the economy. I've been to that auction several times in 2013-2014 and Catalina 30's were selling between $4000 and $5000 in junked condition. I did score me some jack lines and winch handles though.
I would have been interested in that Colombia 46..for 500 as a project boat, unfortunately I'm in the Netherlands, so a little far for just to give it some TLC. still.. I would like to have that auction website if possible...
What all other fees are there besides the auction price? I am not a boater, but, can you buy it at auction and then just take off into the sea/ocean? What are the mandatory things you need and need to do to sail to open ocean? Please take this seriously and give useful information. Thanks so much.
Hi there. Those are some loaded questions and you’ll have to do your own due diligence. I will tell you what I “think” but this doesn’t mean it’s 100% accurate. As far as I know you can just pay the auction price, transfer the title, register it, get insurance and you’re off and sailing if the boat is sea worthy. You need a place to take it but if you’re going to just sail away then that would be about it as far as I know. Most people put them in a slip which is the hard part to prepare for because insurance is hard to get on an old derelict boat and all marinas will require insurance to their own specs. Your last question is most loaded; the short answer is “refit” or repair what it needs then add what you want then go. Most sailboats can take more than their skipper so you’re only limited by your own abilities and threshold for safety. If you’re serious, call around to marinas and ask questions about slips, insurance, etc and take a survey. I hope this helps.
So sad. Wish I could transport have them all, put in the sweat equity, and flip them once the economy rebounds back here in the Great Lakes region. Freight alone would be huge. Quality boat brands.
The boats you buy at the auction must be removed from the three listed marinas for a minimum of 6 months before they are eligible to come back and need to pass inspection. That cost is unknown because it depends on where you take it. Cheers!
No and no. 😂 Happens twice a year and they are generally too big to trailer. Anything under 25’-ish can be trailered if you have the proper cradle trailer.
Hi Ben, near the end of both auction videos there is a web address on the screen. Pause the video there and write down that address. That’s how you get on. Cheers!
Omg I wish we had this kind of auctions in Europe. Those are basically free boats that needs only some cleaning and a few k€ to be back to perfect shape
My goodness, you'd have to be damned energetic to even consider any of them. Maybe just strip for chandlery and artificial reefs. Good buy on the whisker pole for $60!
I would have bid on the powerboat and the 46 I'm surprised the powerboat didn't sell. not everyone can or wants to sail. crazy right? so if you buy one are the moorage fees you have to pay too. or you buy and the fees start then?
I remember a news story some time ago about how the city of Long Beach was planning to evict people who lived on boats at or near this marina. The city was angry because they didn't pay property taxes as those who lived on dry ground did. Many of these people were retirees and disabled who lived on a pension, and had called these boats home for years. The ones whose boats were operational relocated. Those whose boats no longer had working engines or intact sails were evicted and had their boats confiscated by the city. So, these boats weren't occupied by squatters, they were occupied by people who had a fixed income and were barely able to get by month to month. I suppose they all live in tents on the sidewalk now. Good going Long Beach.
Givernment is evil.
I saw this too. It's happening in a lot of places. I think this is the one you're talking about. ruclips.net/video/TSoDkEk-eYE/видео.html
No, not these boats. Maybe that was the case in the past but these boats were vacant and abandoned for a long time before they go to the auction. The marina gives a lot of chance to pay your slip fees and make it right. I’m not saying nobody got evicted or saying the government isn’t brutal but these boats sit in an area for over a year before they make it to auction. Just setting it straight. Thanks for watching and the story. Cheers!
@@sailingsole I appreciate the updated info. I try to be accurate, so when someone with more knowledge speaks up, it's a good thing.
@@kimberlainodriscoll4781 Cheers Kimberlain! (Super cool name 😂)
I appreciate Men like you who are willing to share, right on man!
Thanks Richard. I have a boat so I can’t buy them 😂 also it’s painful to see them go to salvage so I’m trying to promote them getting a second (3rd, 4th or 5th) life. Cheers bro!
As an Aussie I'll tell you Americans that you are the luckiest people on earth in so many ways, but especially being able to buy a yacht dirt cheap, that a few K spent and some elbow grease will give you a live aboard blue water cruiser. Americans are blessed
So many people think it’s worthless to refit them. I agree with you. 👊🏼
@@pamspencer5733 Thats another good aspect of the US, get armed up to the teeth
@@pamspencer5733 what “parts” are you in?
@@sailingsole Galveston Texas & Ny Upstate🔫💣💊💉🔪🗽🇺🇸🚽🪠😓
@@pamspencer5733 seems rough if you need at that stuff 😂🤙🏼
Ericson 31' looks ok. You can buy one of these boats for a few hundred and spend $20,000 restoring it, or you can buy a nicely maintained boat (30') for $10,000.
That about sums it up
@@sailingsoleyou gotta love working with your hands to make a distressed buy worthwhile.
Cool video! I picked up a C&C Encounter 26 at a Boat Angel Auction for $660 total cost (bid + $300 admin fee). She was floating and had a running Yanmar diesel so I took the leap. I was fortunate that the marina allowed me to stay and fix her up on the spot, to include about 4 ft of top side deck replacement. She has definitely been more of a project than expected but I have not seen one for sail for less than $10k so I'm happy with the deal. Ive had her out a few times to see how she does and have her tell me what she needs. Was just USCG inspected on Friday so ready for a lot more underway time on the Chesapeake Bay this year! Good luck to all that try it, it can be done but 1. Expect to be surprised by repairs 2. Learn to see your way through them 3. Be patient as this is not an Amazon purchase that is instantly what you invision... but worth it and rewarding along the way. You will likely spend more on slip fees than anything else every year, do your math and shop for a marina before making the leap. Good video, thanks for posting!
Thanks Jeff. Good luck with your C&C. Fair winds!
Boat Angel. Great Ministry. You can always find her in The Log. She sort of jumps out of the classifieds and into your heart.
Just for interest's sake, what's been the all-up cost of the project?
Where can you find boat angel auctions? I never heard of this? Ty🌅
@@pamspencer5733 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Andy, thank you so much for showing us this and letting us experience it. Never crossed my mind to try auctions, there were 2-3 of them that looked great enough to buy, just needed to fix up a bit.Sad to see all the boats that went to the Salvage guys.
Yes it’s sad but nobody bud so they we’re lost. Bummer.
Some of the old Columbias were Charley Morgan designs. Not this one. Not sure who designed it, but prob pre-morgan columbia. This is basically a good boat, (it's going to roll a lot off the wind), but the centerboard is a pain to deal with. The 34 really has no interior pan, just an accomodation built onto the hull, so it would be super- customizeable. Being a trunk cabin, and an older boat, the interior space is narrow and limited. Under power, and especially backing down, it would be surprisingly disappointing compared to boats built after the mid 70's. Never would have a blister problem tho. Likely a lead keel.
The best boat of the lot, imho, is the islander. Very sturdy, safe, good fast sea boat. Tiny interior. Many of these were home-built (finished).
The Coronado is also going to have an iron keel. Not lead. Looks turn-key, but not a boat I would invest money into, as the resale value is never going to be high. Great way to go sailing without spending much.
The Santana 30 is a good fast socal (light air) boat. INBOARD CHAINPLATES! Which should be and are easy to replace. Limited interior compared to your boat, tho. Like a big Santana 27, which can't carry any extra weight, but sails like a bat outta hell. Hey, were you gonna drink that Dr Pepper?
Pretty hard to go wrong with a Cal 25, lots of space inside plus a pop-top for lots of headroom. Perfect for Catalina weekends or surfer transport. Been to mexico twice on one. Outboard a pain, but at least you can reach it. Lead keel, no keel bolts.
Most fun: the McVay. That's a boat that you just sail and have fun; Especially nice being able to climb aboard after a swim, or for the kids to drag their feet in the water. Lots of room to seat everyone. Sitting that close to the water is just more Fun.
The Ericson can't be faulted in any way, except it's probably got an atomic 4. Not the end of the world, really. However, some IOR influence makes it dated, and maybe a tad squirrelly off the wind in heavy air. Speaking of heavy air, many of these boats have 3-axis, bottle goosenecks. So they don't need modern, chunky masts and booms (don't they look a little flimsy? They're not). Importantly, bottle goosenecks are Totally Incompatible with solid boom vangs. And their small diameter booms don't work well with mid-boom preventers. Thee tubes are small diameter, but thick walled. This kind of spar is heavy (= expensive to make).
The Pearson 31, which I thought was fractional (this one's masthead), looks more like a 32 to me; either way these sail and power Very Well. As long as it isn't a wing keel model, that is. Wing keels were the worst fad ever. It has that "east coast" look, throughout: high coamings, interior mouldings, I'm going to say it runs a close second to the Islander. Lead Keel.
The Cat 30 has a tabernacle mast, perfect for Oxnard (yes, that's a place).
Hey, that's my unsolicited 2 cents! Worth every penny it cost you to read!
Keep up the good work, your channel is engaging. Thanks.
Great info. Thanks for sharing and posting, I love hearing from experience. Keep it coming. Cheers!
Thank you for taking the time to write this down. Very cool info
You're definitely the guy to take to auction. Knowing nothing, most like me would go for anything looking reasonable. I guess the open water is not that forgiving to people who buy with that mindset. Thanks for jotting that down, I'm sure it will make any like me that dream take a reality pill...
you wrote a novel but its just scrap
@@erzr Thank You erzr. Do you have a dream?
Oh Man, that's the first time I see your video, but I like it so much! That's sad ser this old boat so mistreated! I live in countryside Brazil, and in my country these boats would be very well taken care of! I love seaboats, so I see this videos to improve my English! Thank's to share your experiences!😊🎉
You are most welcome. Thank you for watching and I hope to hear from you again on a different video. Cheers!
If I lived closer and had the time to work on a boat, I would be tempted to buy one.
We can dream! 😂👊🏼
Some of these boats were in pretty bad condition. But considering the price and that you literally get everything in them, it seems like the best way to get a used project boat. Some of them look like they came with free power tools. I don't think I would buy anything over 30ft though as small boats are easier to refit.
Some people say they were fixable, some people say they were raised from the bottom of the marina. Lol. It’s all how you look at it.
The issue is they need so much work. Unless you have a piece of property where you can put it in a cradle and restore it, its not worth it.
But at least you’re horny! 🤷🏻👍🏼
That is hectic! Great opportunity for people to get on the water over there! Some real steals! Those boats would Auction for thousands of dollars here in Aus.
Ya, I thought more people would’ve bought them. Cheers!
There is nothing more expensive than a free boat. About the only way I would tackle one of these boats is if the marina gave me free yard time for a year while it was restored.
Hard to believe those boats were once new. Good score on the whisker/spinnaker poles!
Right? They’re so neglected it’s hard to see what they once were. Always fun to go though.
The default length for a spinnaker (whisker) pole is equal to the distance from the mast to the bow, aka your "J" measurement. Poles that are shorter than "J" will never work well, in your case 11'6". But as a whisker pole, that's always going to be too short. It won't "reach", the boat will only run with such a short pole. Ideal whisker pole length is 112 to 115% of "J". MAX safe whisker pole length is 123% of "J". So, Never shorten a pole that may seem too long. Short poles are simply racing bs (bc long poles are Faster and penalized). The pole you bought is hella better than ANY telescoping pole, because telescoping poles Cannot stay "in column", and are heavy as hek. However, trying to stow this pole against and parallel to your mast will soon break the ends off. It has to be stowed on deck, or, as we did on Liz Clark's "Swell" (shameless name drop) stowed with the bottom end just aft of the fwd lower chainplate, and the inboard (top) end up the mast on a 1-1/4" "T" track. And give the bridles a sea-toss. Just take your pole lift to the outboard end fitting, which would have 3/16" x 1-1/4" ss rings lashed to it to accept the SPTL and Foreguy. Best to use those end fittings with the plunger pin on top, opening like a "U", not opening down like an "n".
So, Please don't shorten it!
BTW, Cat 30 chainplates should always be replaced every 16 years, and it's a lot easier than you think.
I mentioned Liz's pole setup bc there are so many images of it online, including a north sails ad. That pole was donated to her by singlehanded transpac racer Fred Gamble, off his Islander 40 "Iris", now re-named "Sweet Jessica".
Oops, boss man coming, out!
@@martyspargur5281 right when I think I know a thing or two someone (you) busts out a bunch of info that I understand but didn’t know. Lol. Thanks again for sharing. I love learning this stuff. Cheers Marty! Don’t get busted by the boss! 😂
Hi Andy, I just noticed that one of your new poles is telescoping. So, please ignore my riff on telescoping poles, I am always saying the wrong thing.
Anyway, if you have a bow sprit your "J" measurement is going to be closer to 13'2" than 11'6" like I think I said. The best inboard end mast attachment for the telescoping pole would be a Forespar PE-1.
You can use a SS ring (or a ring mounted on a car, about 1-1/4"), but a regular mast ring can possibly break off the ends of the pole, by binding. You would normally use two of the PE-1 pad eyes, one on each side, instead of one mounted on the front of the mast.
That telescoping pole can be rebuilt with new parts so the gripper bands inside don't slip, but I would start by cleaning the pole inside and out with soap and water, and wetsand the plastic bands with 320. That often does the trick. Sometimes you will find WD-40 etc has been sprayed in there. That is counterproductive and destructive to the plastic.
A second look at the poles shows that your other, one-piece pole has trigger ends, which can always be saved by a tear-down/ rebuild with the same parts. De-burr the triggers and their slots, and after polishing the triggers soak them overnight in Flood/Skyco Ospho.
This goes for any stainless steel on your boat: the way to keep SS from rusting is an acid bath, bc only if oxygen can get at the surface will SS not "rust". Polish your stanchions? Sure. But always wipe on Ospho after cleaning off the residual polish with acetone. Ospho is an electrolyte, so best to not allow it to touch other types of metal or alloys at the same time. But for straight stainless steel, you can soak it as long as you want. After it makes the rust stains disappear, wash w/ fresh water. What you are doing is "passivating" the stainless, changing it from "active" to "passive" by mustering the chromium to the surface, and super cleaning the surface so it can get oxygen. If you want to speed up the process, induce DC current, but I never do.
I couldn't see if the solid pole had the same end fittings both ends. Often poles like that will use a toggle pin mast fitting that plugs into a socket on the pole. Trigger ends are for dip-pole gybing, but if both ends have trigger jaws the pole will work for end-for-end gybes as well. If you do decide to end-for-end gybe, keep the bridle so the topping lift will support the pole balanced, but I prefer to take topping lifts straight to the outboard end without the clutter of bridles. You can attach the inboard end to a ring if it's a jaw type, either a car on a track, or something like a RF-41 stationary ring. The height that it's mounted on the mast is determined by what it takes to allow the outboard end to swing down and pass to the other side below your furling drum, without detaching the pole from the ring. The solid pole should work for a whisker pole as well as a spinnaker pole, without shortening it.
That's my latest "novel". Thank You.
This was frickin AWESOME! I wished I knew this before today, I would have been there! Maybe the next one! THANKS☺
Right on! Yeah it’s super fun to watch. If you plan on buying one at the next auction do some research on the important things to look for before buying a sailboat (if you don’t know already). Also, you need a place to put it so get on some waiting lists for a boat slip now. Your best bet are the marinas in Wilmington. Just my 2¢. 🤙🏼
I got my Catalina 36 for $750 at a boat auction. Granted it smells bad and needs a new engine but it has a solid hull and can be brought back with a little work. I have the skills, I will find the time and money and soon I will be sailing on the Puget Sound and Salish Sea.
Wow that sounds like a great deal. I really like those C36’s. Great find and have fun with the refit. Fair winds!
Good job Andy!
Thanks for the information.
You bet. Thanks for watching! Cheers!
aww man... i wish i knew about this before it happened. i would of been happy to grab one of those and fix it up.
it's really hard to find any kind of boat for sale, let alone one i could afford, when you live in the desert 12 hours from the nearest ocean, like i do. being able to get one of those would let me finally start moving towards the life i want instead of being stuck somewhere i hate lol
but knowing that this is actually a possibility gives me some hope. i guess i need to look a bit harder for auctions
Stay tuned, there will be another auction around September. I’ll put out an announcement video. If you’re serious then you need to find a place to put it now so that you’re ready. Cheers!
@@sailingsole i am very serious, but ya, that is a concern. i may have to wait until next year since you only have a week before you need to move it. but the main thing that will hold me back is fixing up my house, and focusing on my youtube so i can hopefully use both of those to generate enough money to live off of while fixing up a boat.
but ya, i like your content, so ill be checking back in regularly, and maybe ill go to the next auction just to have a look around and get a feel for it.
keep up the great work!
@@PKAdventures Right on, cheers!
ok, if you do a fix it series with all the costs I am really down to sub and watch that would be amazing.. despite getting a cheap "foundation" for the project, the overall costs are the most interesting thing... Cheers.
@@philxdev hey, let me focus a bit more on my camping, hunting, and fishing content where i plan to show people how i do it all for crazy cheap, then once i have done that for a while and gain a decent amount of subscribers so i am able to offset my living costs, then i would be happy to do it. honestly it's one thing i reeeeally want to do
repurposing/renewing a used boat is one way of keeping derelict boats out of our oceans and landfills. Another action that qualifies for our #onemillionboater pledge to change one thing to help protect oceans from pollution. Kudos for promoting these boat auctions!
Right on. I like what you’re all about as well! Kudos to you too 👊🏼
Keep up the good work. I really enjoy the videos. Did the Columbia sell? also in your case which came first the Slip or the Boat?
The Columbia 34 did not sell but I think they cut a deal for the 46. Not sure of that result. I’m my case I bought the boat first then slip but I needed to stay in a temp slip for a couple weeks which was expensive. Back then slips were more available, I think there is a waiting list at most marinas now. You just gotta call them to find out.
Seeing the condition of some of them, I think they would be hard pressed to give them away.
You got that right. There were only a couple worth refitting.
Some of the most expensive boats start out free.
@@joelw2023 🎯
The parts alone on many of there boats are worth thousands. But the cost of docking and storage can easily exceed that. And just try to get rid of a stripped hull
Tell me please where exactly is this place located????
Thank you 😊 greatly appreciate you sharing with us all grab a bargain you showing how it can be done thank you 😊
You’re most welcome Giles. It’s fun to share this stuff. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
That was very cool. Thanks for taking us alone. I've never been to a boat auction and was curious what they were like.
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Great video, albeit a terrible auction. I thought the auctioneer was pretty bad. I've always wondered how these marine auctions go and I appreciate how you first showed us the boats. Wow though, pretty rough shape on many of them. You bring up a good point about how, if they are purchased they must leave the marina in one week. And where would you take it. A yard first to get your repairs done first I guess but you aren't going to slip it any time soon. Thanks for sharing!
Yep, where to put it is the real challenge. Terrible auctioneer! He set the tone at the beginning for nobody to bid. Thanks for watching, cheers!
Hey Andy - that was a whole bunch of fun - I wonder why people come out in the rain to an auction and keep their hands in their pockets - there were some amazing bargains to be had - some not so good and money will need to be spent for sure - no free lunch - but so long as one has money to spend on a restoration, some were definitely in the running I thought - the day sail'er looked really fun and there were others like the 31' and 46' that looked interesting... Anyway, Captain America seemed to walk away with quite a few of them - was he a broker or something like that? Thanks for sharing - that was fun!! 👍😄
Thanks! They come out for entertainment, like I did, it’s just fun to look at the boats and see what is being auctioned and see what they sell for. He’s not a broker; he parts them out and recycles the lead in the keels. So in short, he destroys them.
@@sailingsole Yeah, I am sure that the atmosphere must be a lot of fun. It is a pity that guy just destroys boats - whilst there condition was dodgy, I am sure that some of them were viable... anyway - it looked like a cool event to attend 😄
Wow this is really a sign of the times. 3 years ago some of these boats, even in their poor condition, could’ve sold for $20k. Now no one wants to touch them; they’re not worth the moorage fees nor the repair costs to make them seaworthy.
I agree. I feel like 3-5 were worthy of refit and they didn’t sell. Such a bummer to see them go to salvage.
Yeah a few look like they have good bones, and I’m sure they’ll be rebuilt someday. Old pleasure craft have such an interesting lifecycle. Thanks for documenting!
@@RobertoAllen the sad truth is if they didn’t get bought they are going to be destroyed and salvaged
@@sailingsole that makes me so sad. I might be able to pull it off at those prices and elbow grease and of course, more money!
@@wedjr97 You should do it. Check out my follow up video that details some info you need to know and be prepared for before you buy one of those auction boats.
Digging your video man. Keep em coming!
Thanks Corey. Cheers! 🤙🏼
That was fun for sure! I would have bid on that last Catalina 30. I'd first haul it out and check for that Catalina smile, these boats are notorious for keel separating from hull. The rest of it is normal clean and maintenance. These boats are roomy and fun to sail.
Most Catalina’s have the smile, mine had a small one and most people are frightened by it. I’m not. Cheers! 🤙🏼
Great video and thank you for the information!
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That big Columbia looked great. Lots of work but a sturdy dependable design with amazing cabin and galley room!
Yeah, sadly nobody bid on that one if I remember correctly.
@@sailingsole I was willed a 38 foot Columbia by a guy I had only sailed with once. Kept her in Marina del Rey. Had a lot of fun sailing to Catalina Island on her. Once on a downwind run I unfurled the huge spinnaker only to find out it was a Colombian flag. I had the Coast Guard boarding my boat within the hour! Haha
Eventually while I was in Micronesia my friend was using the boat and the Keel dropped off in deep water. He was rescued but I had to sell her to a guy who is still living in her in front of the Chart House in Dolphin marina in Marina del Rey.
One day my wife and I will lease a nice newer boat and sail the French Polynesian Islands. I’ve learned owning a boat is just too much time and work…although watching your video made me think hard about attending a few local boat auctions. We live above Pillar point Harbor near Half Moon Bay now.
Thanks for posting, I enjoyed the video!
Came to say what @gilesburrett3844 already perfectly stated. But still: Thank you so much Andy and Misty (and Sole for letting them check out the auction) for taking the time to show us how the auctions are run. As a SoCal dude near Dana Point, and an hopeful boat owner this year, this gives a TON of fresh hope that a decent boat (I know I know, after a lot of work😊) is attainable.
That Columbia 46’ had some real potential. I never thought that boats like these would end up at auction.
I’m glad y’all were staying warm and dry.
Ok, Sole, you can have them back now and enjoy your new whisker and spinnaker poles! Sunny sailing soon!
Haha thanks! 👍🏼
Agreed on the 46's as long as her bones were good that would have been the one at that auction worth the time and effort.
Wishing you luck on finding your first sail boat...
@@PreacherwithoutaPulpit That Columbia Motorsailer had a lot of potential. Those are the easiest boats in the world to fix. You can do it over time, or pay someone, it costs about the same either way.
@@martyspargur528108-24-23 labor that is accompanied with knowledge is not cheap and you get what you pay for.
I wonder how much they sold that center cockpit for after the auction because I bet someone got a deal on that one.
That would be something I'd have snagged if I had a yard lined up ahead of time to get her on the hard and go to work.
Fun to see but being in Cali it's just the wrong coast for me.
Thanks for the vid...
I thought the same thing. Even if she needed work, a center cockpit for $400/500? She was floating which is half the battle!
That’s the hard part is being ready prior to the auction to take the boat somewhere. 👍🏼
Holy dear mother of marmalade. I have never witnessed a sailboat auction. Wild. I am sure there is a 27 to 32 foot full keel with a wheel instead of a tiller out there. They look so crazy!!!
Yeah there will be another auction as soon as the inventory builds up.
How quickly do you have to move it, or rent a slip? That upfront cost might be followed by $1500 a month...
I think you have a week to move it and no marinas will rent you a slip without insurance. Insurance is tricky on old boats but even trickier on derelict boat. Marina fees are not $1500 per month though 😂
Marina fees are around $750.00
Very interesiting thanks for sharing this video. Did not know about autions like this
I’ll throw up a little “notice video” for the next one. Cheers!
One that didn't sell had a $400 outboard hanging off the stern. You could pour some money and time in them and have a great boat. Then where do you put it?
That’s why most don’t sell. It’s hard to be ready to take one on.
What.
Where’s the link to sign up for the mailing list?
At the end of the video it comes on screen. Pause it there to get the web address. Also I’ve posted the link on some other comments but I don’t have it right now.
More schools should note that they do this. It would be a great school project.
Is there a school that told you about this?
We rebuilt 4 21ft sail boats in my high school our teacher would have bought everything at that auction and then have us fix them up. I got lucky my school and 2 teachers loved boats
I worked in the yachting industry for years as a young man (1971). commissioning, racing (dingies to 50 footers), maintaining yachts for my employer, Ballena Bay Sailboats/Interyacht West, and my families' boats; from my Tornado Catamaran, in-laws 35' Swedish motor-sailor, and my folk's sail boats and 43' ft cruiser. (all long gone) I would love to buy an older sloop in the 35-40ft range ( 40t being the largest I'd be comfortable single handling, OK 35 would be better, 40 with my grand kids) and I have the skill and funds to restore one... I'm partial to C+Cs., But what I can't afford is the monthly mooring fees in the Pacific NW. which are higher than I ever paid for the mortgage on my houses.
Ok 👍🏼
In answer to the inevitable "Why a C&C?" I just noticed Berthon is listing "Phantom", a C&C 66.
Check it out. That is sailing perfection.
One thing I like about their designs: They do not have one square inch more wetted surface than they need.
I've never seen such a sad auction. I've seen yard ornaments sale faster. I appreciate your time.
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I missed out this auction. I’ll be ready for next year, or 6 months from now.
Yep there will be more auctions… 👍🏼
Yo that Catalina was actually pretty freaking nice! This is wild
If I didn’t already have a boat I would’ve bid on that last one.
First of all as Captain Q would say, if they float, they get 10 points for that. Those that float are worth a try . Thanks for sharing .
Ha ha, I love Captain Q. 🧑✈️ ⛵️
Enjoying your videos! They have inspired me to buy a boat and go sailing! Question: After buying a boat, how long can it be docked at that location until a slip can be obtained? Hoping to attend the next auction!
That’s awesome. Do your research and due diligence. You can leave the boat at their dock for one (1) week after the auction and then it needs to leave on your own responsibility to have a place to put it. The next auction is supposed to be in the Fall. Stay tuned, I’ll put out another announcement as soon as I know when but I don’t anticipate knowing anything for a while.
That was cool Andy! Amazing how cheap they auction for. This is Vegas Matt
Right on Vegas Matt. 🤙🏼😂
Thanks for this video & sharing this. I didn't know you could buy boats this affordably priced from ranges of 100 to 500+ dollars. An important question prior to buying boats like these is - "from your sailing experience & expertise, if boats like these will be properly fixed, refitted, & restored, do you think they would eventually be sea-worthy for circumnavigation & sailing the Atlantic & Pacific Oceans globally? Or will these be durable enough to sail against the "roaring forties, furious fifties, & screaming sixties," if fixed properly & completely? Coz I am having options open, otherwise I'd rather buy a brand new one.
Buy new if those are your sailing goals
Thanks so much for your suggestion.
They need so so much to be in the water.
Am from kenya can you connect me get a 100$, fishing boat
Thanks for sharing Andy. That 46 looked interesting if could get for under $400.00
It was a big boat but it also needed a lot of work. 🤙🏼
Such good deals! If I could re-motor electrical.., GM in Washington is "re-motoring" all ribbed boats, you must drill a hole on the block.
Never pay again.
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Pretty sure that is an early 70's Columbia 45. I don't think there was a 46. They may have rounded up because I think it's LOA was like 45.5 or 45.25ft.
Yeah maybe. I recently saw a nice version of that model, it was really nice and roomy.
Hi there! I would love more information about the boat auction! Going to look it up on my own right now, but any tips you can share would be awesome!
Hello! Just fyi, it’s not my auction. It is held by the City of Long Beach, CA. If you watch near the end of the video a website address will come on the screen to show you where to sign up for their mailing list. Then you’ll be notified when the next auction is. I’m just a spectator at the auction. Cheers!
I just watched you show for the first time very impressive. please add me to your list-----San Diego man here
Thanks for watching Barrett! What list? I’m not sure I know what you are referring to. If you subscribe you should be able to get a notification when I publish new videos. I hope that helps.
Cool experience. I haven't been in Long Beach since 1987. What time of the year are auctions?
It varies depending on inventory. The next one is June 29. I just released an announcement about it. ruclips.net/video/eFdQocWRLw4/видео.htmlsi=Z3SL6HQMeRG0TTWk
excellent video could you tell me which is the auction house that did that pirr please
Do you know if it can be auctioned online and then sent abroad?
It was the Long Beach municipal auction and they will not do it online and ship it to you. That would be a disaster because people likely would bid and not pay or they would not be ready to actually accept the responsibilities that come with owning a boat. I am making a video to explain the details of this auction and the buying process. I hope this video will help answer some questions people have had. Cheers! Andy
Thank you so much for sharing your fabulous video,I enjoyed 🌊🏄
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@@sailingsole thanks 🌈
Hello to Misty; Andy, Another great Video… Hey Mark!!
What’s up bro! 🤙🏼
The Catalina’s are super good sized sailboats.
We used charter an Islander Mark ll in the … drum roll… 1970’s to sail to Catalina for 6 summers. Super awesome sailing videos, many thanks feels like we are there.
Good video. The 46 looked salvagable for sure ... and no bid? Surprising...
I’m mess surprised too 🤙🏼
Dear Andy & Misty, I would be interested in the auction and have some questions about it. (By the way, I signed up for the notification list, but there was no auction in September. I hope to be notified of the next one.)
1. Can a foreign (EU.) citizen participate in the auction?
2. Do the ships sold come with any kind of ship documents and ship certificates?
3. Can the purchased boats be transported only by land, or by water (towed or sailing)?
4. You mentioned a grace period of a few days for delivery. It is possible to improve the condition of the ship in the port during this time; work on it?
If you know, please answer my questions. Thanks.
Hello Ben,
Sorry for the late reply. Here are some answers to your questions but you need to do your own due diligence. Call the Long Beach, Shoreline Marina to get the answers you want.
1. I don’t know for sure but I don’t see why not. You likely can bud at the auction.
2. Yes, I believe so.
3. You can transport the boat any way you want. It just needs to leave within one week of the auction.
4. Yes, I believe you can use that one week period to work on it at the marina to get it ready to move.
Cheers! I hope this helps! - Andy
Thank you very much!@@sailingsole
I cant believe that cat 30 didnt go higher. Man id kill to get my hands on a boat like that for that price. Looked clean, nice dodger, sails in a cover... man that could have gotten me out sailing quick
I feel ya but it’s more difficult than it looks. Do you have means and a place to take a boat? You have to take it away within one week and all the local marinas are full. I hope you come to the next one and buy a boat. Cheers!
I used to live there right in the Pike. Great marina,showers and private bathrooms and laundry only problem crime and homelessness everywhere.
I still love it. I love the diversity on the boardwalk and the city but I’m not naive to what you’re saying. 👍🏼
You would be surprised how a little soap and elbow grease would clean those up!!! Most people can't see past the dirt!
Yep. Nailed it. 👍🏼
Thanks man, are these auctions common?
They happen twice per year and I’ll post an announcement video as soon as I get notice of the next auction.
I really like it but my hometown Vietnam is too far away.. thank you for the video
🤙🏼 Thanks for watching
Good job brother!! I would like to see more auctions. Bet you could make a job of it.
I’ll definitely post the next local auction and I’ll look around for some more. Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU for showing you arriving a day early…..
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I am an old sailor having had a Catalina 22 as my first boat back around 1978. I found myself feeling sad over the neglect these once beautiful boats suffered. I always wondered how someone could buy a beautiful Catalina 30 and let it become a derelict. All it takes is a well charged battery and a modest solar cell to keep it charged to have the bilge pumps working.
I agree. It’s sad to see these boat in such bad shape. Someone simply neglected them.
I felt the same way! They must have been so beautiful at one time. Especially a boat, it needs regular upkeep.
@@waltervega8730 If I was younger, I’d think about buying an old Catalina 30, fixing it up and sailing it to my home in Florida. Alas, I’m in good health but at 73, I don’t have the energy.
Wow! Great day of sailing.
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WoW if I was there I buy the Columbia 46 for myself.
i didnt see you there lol man im still regretting not getting that RIB for 125
Were you the one that was outbid to ~$160 for that RIB?
Hey how are you? Thank you for this chance. I would like to subscribe to the boat auction!
Hello. I don’t run the auction or the email list. There is a web address displayed on the video near the end. Pause the video and go to that web address to get on the mailing list. I hope this helps!
A friend of mine got a 27 Catalina back in 8889 and him and his girl were going to Sail it from Michigan to Florida doing the intercoastal one or two of his friends from the yacht club we’re going to sell down with them but because the Hugo and 89 they all backed out him and I didn’t leave Michigan until October 1 which is a bad time to be leaving third day old Lake Erie Was just tons of fun when it up doing the Erie Canal and then the Hudson one We did some of the north Atlantic and the intercoastal ended up getting down to Fort Myers November 26 quite the adventure did it a few years later on a 37 ranger one ton Had roller furling in the main is actually a really nice boat Drew 6/2Second time we sound from Michigan down in North Carolina tons of fun love your channel please let me know about the Options thank you very much God bless
Sounds like fun adventures. Enjoy life man.
Right on. Thanks for watching and sharing your story, sounds fun and inspiring. Cheers!
I started travelling around on boats 50 years ago, your comment shows how you can sail on other people's boats and one thing leads to another.
Simply showing up in Antigua in may, or Antibes in September, etc, works. You would have to be pretty unpresentable to not get signed on something.
Just travel light, alone, have no plans, and try to recognize that the opposite of what you expected could be just what you wanted.
THIS is the best way to get into sailing. Few of us were born into sailing. From about 5 years old I knew what I wanted--- to sail away. From the cornfield I lived in.
@@martyspargur5281 I love that story, it’s inspiring!
You can sail from Florida into the Great Lakes? Man this country always surprises me with something new. I love this country
Andy when is the next auction? I will fly out.
I don’t know yet. They send out an email around one month in advance. Get on the email list. The url is on screen near the end of the video. Also I’ll post an announcement video if you’re subscribed you should see it. Cheers!
Just came across your channel. This is very interesting and I looked on the long beach website and couldn't find the information for the next auction. Any help is appreciated
Hi Darrell, you just have to sign up for their newsletter. Once you’re on the newsletter, they will send you an email when the auction comes up. If you look in the description of this website, there is a link to their newsletter. I hope this helps.
That was funny, any east coast auctions. Im in the Brooklyn area
I have no idea because I’m on the west coast. Maybe someone on the east coast can chime in?
great video thank you a lot!
Right on. Thanks for watching
Love seeing these auctions. I don't know what I would do though with these non-running boats in California. I wonder what that one guy was going to do with all the boats he baught. Are there any working yards a DIY kind of person can fix them up in sothern cali?
He salvages them for the lead in the keel and parts them out before destroying them. It’s kinda sad.
@@sailingsole
жаль слышать что эти лодки будут распилены на запчасти (,
они выглядят как хороший проект для восстановления начинающему яхтсмену,
еслиб я был рядом я бы купил одну из этих лодок и подарил бы ей новую жизнь )
Thanks for share this info! It's just for US citizen only or is possible to Buy for Foreigns ?
I don’t know. You need to ask the Long Beach marina office but I think it is fine for foreigners. 👍🏼
Wow, that was cool.
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I'd love to find one of these on the East Coast.
I live in New York.
I'm looking for a fixer but I can use as a live-aboard and travel the world.
Good luck. I hope you find something soon. Cheers!
Interesting video! I can see why they are at auction. $300 for the boat, $15,000 to get it sanitary and livable
You could get a few of those going for a lot less money than that but a lot of elbow grease and unknowns.
No duh, sweetie. What did you expect for $300? A brand new catamaran fresh from the dealers with all the upgrades you want? lol
Very interesting, which time of a year do they have the auction?
There used to be a time but now they say they’ll have it when there is enough inventory so who knows.
I enjoy your video and i tried to keep up with the link at the end but i kept missing it, i can't believe a 46ft boat went that cheap, could you send me how to get on the list for the next sale. Thankyou so much
Try pausing the video when the link is on the screen
@@sailingsole I guess i should have thought about that lol, it was a long day what can I say, i hope next auction there will be some bigger boats as well, thanks for responding back to me so quickly
never will get back the 2 minutes i watched the land fills
Nope that time is gone 😂
The problem is not really the deals. The problem is that boat you buy for $300 has to leave the marina immediately. Which is why they don't sell. No other marina will accept them. Dirty and unregistered. You have to remove the boat from the water and fix it. Then wait maybe years for a slip to open up. Then pay $700 a month to store your $300 boat. In the end, the marinas usually pay a lot of money to have these boats removed and destroyed.
Nailed it. You need a serious plan.
It must be the economy. I've been to that auction several times in 2013-2014 and Catalina 30's were selling between $4000 and $5000 in junked condition. I did score me some jack lines and winch handles though.
I’ve seen them sell for much more as well
I would have been interested in that Colombia 46..for 500 as a project boat, unfortunately I'm in the Netherlands, so a little far for just to give it some TLC. still.. I would like to have that auction website if possible...
You should come buy one at the next auction. The URL is at the end of the video. Pause it and write it down 🤙🏼
BTW, thanks dude for opening our EYES to this.
You bet! 👊🏼
What all other fees are there besides the auction price? I am not a boater, but, can you buy it at auction and then just take off into the sea/ocean? What are the mandatory things you need and need to do to sail to open ocean? Please take this seriously and give useful information. Thanks so much.
Hi there. Those are some loaded questions and you’ll have to do your own due diligence. I will tell you what I “think” but this doesn’t mean it’s 100% accurate.
As far as I know you can just pay the auction price, transfer the title, register it, get insurance and you’re off and sailing if the boat is sea worthy. You need a place to take it but if you’re going to just sail away then that would be about it as far as I know. Most people put them in a slip which is the hard part to prepare for because insurance is hard to get on an old derelict boat and all marinas will require insurance to their own specs.
Your last question is most loaded; the short answer is “refit” or repair what it needs then add what you want then go. Most sailboats can take more than their skipper so you’re only limited by your own abilities and threshold for safety.
If you’re serious, call around to marinas and ask questions about slips, insurance, etc and take a survey.
I hope this helps.
@@sailingsole Thanks for your helpful reply. I presume you don't need insurance if you are not going to put in in a marina? lol
So sad. Wish I could transport have them all, put in the sweat equity, and flip them once the economy rebounds back here in the Great Lakes region.
Freight alone would be huge.
Quality boat brands.
I wish you could do that too! 🤙🏼
Subbed bro, keep me posted!
I would've been all over that Columbia 46.
It would be interesting to know the rules on how long you had to remove them and estimates of that cost.....
The boats you buy at the auction must be removed from the three listed marinas for a minimum of 6 months before they are eligible to come back and need to pass inspection. That cost is unknown because it depends on where you take it. Cheers!
Wow. Damm bro. Do these auctions have often? Are these boats trailable?
No and no. 😂 Happens twice a year and they are generally too big to trailer. Anything under 25’-ish can be trailered if you have the proper cradle trailer.
I subscribed. How do I get myself on the mailing list for the auctions?
Hi Ben, near the end of both auction videos there is a web address on the screen. Pause the video there and write down that address. That’s how you get on. Cheers!
Do they have these actions at Marina Del Ray in Los Angeles? That a lot closer to me.
I’m not sure but o would like to know.
Omg I wish we had this kind of auctions in Europe. Those are basically free boats that needs only some cleaning and a few k€ to be back to perfect shape
Yep. I recently saw a couple boats there were bought at the auction and refit and they looked great.
I’d like to know some of the keel and rudder types on some of these.
You can look it up on sailboatdata.com search for boat make and length then estimate the year if needed
@@sailingsole cool, thanks bro!
My goodness, you'd have to be damned energetic to even consider any of them. Maybe just strip for chandlery and artificial reefs. Good buy on the whisker pole for $60!
Thanks
That Columbia 46 would be great down in Mexico.
Full on live aboard. The galley was massive!
@@sailingsole Is it still there?
@@TropicTrdr Sorry but I don’t know.
I’m a give up life on land I wanna sail like how my grandma sail in the 80 and 90 in the pacific
That sounds amazing! Do it! 🙌🏼
I would have bid on the powerboat and the 46 I'm surprised the powerboat didn't sell. not everyone can or wants to sail. crazy right? so if you buy one are the moorage fees you have to pay too. or you buy and the fees start then?
When you buy one you do not take on the previous owners fees but you have to move it out of the marina for 6 months.
Good job,great information👍🏻
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It wod be nice if some of thos boat cod come to Guyana
Yes that would be great!