Is iPadOS 18 a HUGE Disappointment (Or Not)?
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dude, what are you on about? The 'killer feature' for iPad Pro is make it usable as a professional device, like its marketed as. It's got better hardware than my macbook Air, it costs waaay more, but I can't use it to do my job. The OS needs to do multitasking properly, long running tasks should work in the background. Files app needs to be able to reliably copy files. External display support needs an overhaul, with options for display scaling, resizing the dock. It should be capable of playing more than one audio stream. I should be able to use more than 4 windows! It should be able to handle external cameras and mics in an external dock without crashing. Stage manager needs huge work, it should be intuitive to use. The list is massive. Yes, I want to be able to do things on it I can do on macOS. That's not unreasonable with this hardware at these prices.
In order to do your job you have to play more than one audio stream? I’ve never heard the request before. How can you listen to multiple audio streams at the same time?
Is your external monitor support not working? What should be overhauled about taking whats on your iPad and putting it on a monitor?
If you have an iPad Air which I assume you can do your work on, why are you trying to do that on an iPad? I’m really trying to understand how the things you mentioned would allow you to “do your work” on it and why you can do work on it now.
You bought the wrong device for your demands! Do that stuff on a MacBook! It is created for this. An iPad stays to be an iPad and I am loving it to be a touch based device without keyboard and external displays…
@@simpromovie nothing I want fixing will stop the iPad being an iPad. It’s fixing features that already exist - Apple gave us a keyboard, trackpad, files app, external monitor support, stage manager. I’d like them to work properly.
@@JJohnson313 if I’m playing some tunes, and the app I’m using makes a sound, my music shouldn’t stop dead. The iPad is more powerful than my MacBook air and more portable, and I’d prefer to take just that with me. And I need an iPad for note taking, it’s got a 1000 nit screen, so I can use it outside. As it is I carry both devices, but this hardware could easily do both roles. Why the hell shouldn’t this stuff work? There’s no valid reason.
@@paulwoodward8265 I’m playing a game (royal match) with the sound on and listening to a RUclips right now and both sounds are playing. My iPad doesn’t stop. And I just have the M1 version. It already does that. You wouldn’t need M4 to do that anyway.
No improvement in Files app since ages for ipad.
And Copying a file in ipad we cannot see the progress bar.
Wonder, What are we doing to do with so much power of the M4 chip when there are no software improvements ?
Whats the use of these color settings, icon settings, as if small kids ?
I was expecting update on files app and stage manager, pretty disappointed.
Wasn’t a loading bar added a time back? It’s just not super obvious. I don’t remember seeing it recently but remember it was there (probably my files aren’t that big to have time to notice).
This is probably why this channel has not seen as much growth as it should have
This blind protection of Apple is crazy
WE KNOW THEY CAN EASILY FIX STAGE MANAGER AND PROVIDE PROPER FILE MANAGEMENT
That’s the point
It’s intentional from Apple because we all know they can do it but just don’t
Not everyone wants their iPads to be a Mac. I do not use stage manager, and the files app works fine. You want a Mac not an iPad and that’s fine. The MacBook Air is iPad Pro specs, and runs Mac OS. Also the keyboard is better and works on your lap better.
The iPad isn’t perfect, I still need to use my Mac for fonts. The iPad is a horrible form factor for proper Final Cut and blender. So my Mac Studio is staying anyway.
The iPad is a small device and it’s mostly good for focused work. You wanna computer on the go, it exists. The iPad for what I use it for is perfect, and I can even push the M4 and still have bigger projects hit the layer limit in procreate. Because you can’t use the power, it just means it’s not for you, and Apple’s profit margins is none of our concern.
Yep, people defend these devices being hobbled, I’ve no idea why. It’s not like iPadOS is super simple and intuitive, and I want to complicate it. Just deliver what they promised, make these features work properly.
@@sloppynyuszihe didn’t said to give macos to ipad, but we want improvement. in 14 years one can raise child which can learn maths notes and 3 trillion dollar company after 14 years cant make a good os only thing they did is calculator.
agree. we dont want macos but we also dont want ios in big screen and renaming it to ipados.
@@sloppynyusziI don’t want it to be a Mac but something similar to Samsung Dex would have me buy an m4 13” tomorrow
I was very disappointed. I mean the best feature we got with iPadOS was a freaking calculator. After releasing the M4s I was anticipating at least SOMETHING notable that was specific to iPadOS. Feels like the iPad is the middle child of the Apple lineup 😂
Middle child it is - seems last year the push was visionOS - this year its apple intelligence - can we get a filesystem update for iPadOS next year ?
agree. this is a stupid sucky update. why put the fricken m4 chip stuff into a dumb os?
The iPad got more features than the iPhone did. Would you have been happier if everything discussed in the iOS segment was discussed in the iPadOS section since iPadOS got everything iOS got and then some? Seeing as the only improvement in the M4 was the better neural engine, iPadOS DOES take full advantage of the M4 with all these new AI features.
I am gonna enjoy that calculator a lot and certainly 1000 times more of what I was expecting.
@@Samwarren1982 Apple addressed that when the M4 iPad was released. They said no other chip could run the Tandem OLED, so they had to release the M4 early, as it has a co-processor specific for running and managing the Tandem OLED display. The display chip will be needed for future OLEDs on the Macbooks.
We need a desktop mode on iPad.
"some years are bigger updates than others" we barely got any good updates to the iPad experience in 4 years now. stage manager maybe but that feature is also one of the most disliked and unused things ever. year over year we get disappointed. ever since they put out the "whats a computer ad" it feels like nothing has really changed or made iPad more useful.
I don't want macos on iPad. but iPad needs desktop-level features. like a better files app, real multitasking without apps pausing in the background and actual window management, a desktop lvl browser, maybe even Mac app support. the whole software still feels like just a bigger version of ios and a huge waste of space.
I had to buy a MacBook in addition to my iPad just for on-the-go bc I cant do lots of basic stuff on my iPad alone.
your last sentence is exactly why it's the way it is. they want you to buy both.
Yeah. I laughed when I heard him say that. Last big update was 13.4
@@devin2156I do have both… I still like the iPad more.
I agree but love stage manager but feel like they let it hanging
Dude.....My M4 iPad could launch a SpaceX ship and we got little improvements. Now, That being said, I love the new iPad regardless. Oh, and you definitely give Apple a pass, Lol. Thanks for trying to make us feel better.
He's a total shill.
Big let down :-(
Dang this guy is a hardcore Apple fan boy. He can’t find anything bad to say. Like no, Apple COULD do better period no “buuutttt”.
There isn't alot bad about the Apple stuff.
I don't use reminders because they don't appear in the calendar...This update is not HUGE, but as you say...with the new apple pencil and all the little things in the OS, I think its a jump forward. Yet, I would like a files update.
I know what the silver amazing thing that is needed. It’s true multitasking mean that apps or programs can run in the background WITHOUT PAUSING OR STOPPING. And I don’t mean my email syncing in the background. I mean a program or app keeps running even while not up on the main screen instance. Until we reach that point the iPad doesn’t really have multitasking. Just a semblance of it. Additionally let me resize all apps to the size I want, I don’t want this auto snapping feature.
I never understood how people considered switching between apps multitasking. That’s literally the opposite of what multitasking is
The problem is that Apple made it appear as though huge software changes were coming to iPad OS during the iPad Pro M4 announcement. Shame on you, Apple.
What did they say that gave you that impression? Was there a quote or statement that I can go back and look for?
@@JJohnson313 Suggest you watch the event, in particular Tim Cook’s remarks at the end about “what’s to come” for the platform.
@@JayJay-sk3iu I watched it. Multiple times.
@@JJohnson313 Then you missed it if you’re asking what Apple said to give the impression software changes were coming to iPad OS.
Until they can get macos, iPads will be underwhelming.
Naw. I like ipadOS more. What I do want is the apps on MAC to be migrated and run native on ipados, particularly the creative apps.
Not disappointed at all. Actually very excited about Apple Intelligence and an improved Siri! Didn’t have any expectations and find I can get most of my work done on the iPad. Still have a small list of things I would like improved, but none are a deal killer.
I was very excited for everything the had to say this year. Sadly I don’t have the newest iPhone but I like what is coming in Apple devices.
I just have a lot of mixed feelings with iPadOS. On one hand, I don’t want Apple to simply port MacOS to the iPad as it would just create a whole new problem. But on the other hand, I can understand people feeling frustrated that spending over a grand on an iPad still wouldn’t allow you to do certain things like running apps in the background. Ultimately, I’m in the disappointment camp just because Apple should give some desperate attention to iPadOS besides the calculator app. Ok, they got that meme complaint out of the way. Now can they fix things that people asked them to fix?
Apple need to solve for 4-5 use cases of the iPad using iPadOS - 1 - Everyman user - here apple needs to make it easy to open a file in your chosen app from the filesystem - eg press and hold for context menu, can now open the file in the app of choice - rather than open the app then find the file
2 - creators - these people need access to the extra ram and improved filesystem behavior - file compression, file transfer - should work in background and have a progress bar, maybe in a Dynamic Island - being able to tag files and auto create directory’s would be nice too
3 - podcasters - these guys need to be able to separate audio streams from zoom, FaceTime, select where they want the audio to come from
4 - people who use peripherals and external monitors - here we need to be able to format a drive, add a microphone, external webcam - support 2 monitors, have the new tiles feature in stage manager , maybe run more than 4 apps in each center stage, easily add and remove an app to a stage or run multiple instances of the same app in different stages more easily
@@donyoung333 Sounds like you need a laptop and let the iPad do what it was designed for. Be a tablet!
Glad I never upgraded from my m1 ipad pro. In Ipados 18, there is going to be no difference between the M1 and M4.
Got me the oled and new Apple Pencil is all what I needed/wished to upgrade.
@@manart65061000 for oled? No thanks better use the money on something useful
external monitor support is still trash and stage manager just a subpar multi tasking solution!!!
we need a dull flegded mac mode or like a "dex mode" when connected to a monitor or msgic keyboard!!!
Asside from Apple Intelligence im quite disappointed in iPad OS. I just bought a 13-Inch M4 with keyboard and it’s great as a laptop replacement but yeah the software limits it, was hoping a bit more from 18. Happy with the next assasins creed also coming to iPad and not only Mac though 😄. And game mode for lower controller latency maybe also a small and maybe unnoticeable feature but nice 😊
I think the big thing is Apple have not justified the utterly ridiculous decision to skip M3 and debut M4 in a tablet not a computer
The assumption from all the over the top tech RUclipsrs was that these AI features were so advanced they could ONLY work with some new hardware feature that’s exclusive to the M4
But no…my 3 year old M1 iPad Pro can do absolutely EVERYTHING in iPad os18 that the M4 model can do…which is exactly what they’ve done for the iPhone let’s not forget! AI is exclusive to 15 Pro models 🤷🏻♂️
M4 iPad sales will TANK after this becuase honestly WHY would you get one?!
I felt like the video was clearly biased towards Apple’s side. Some of these iPads start at $1000. A calculator and refining Apple Pencil text isn’t going to do it. I want a files app overhaul to be virtually identical in functionality to Mac. Including downloading applications from the web.
iPads can start at less than $300. No one is forcing you to buy the Pro! It targets a tiny niche audience, like digital artists, who can afford or use it.
@@andyH_England Yes, iPads do start at less than $300, and for users who are paying that price they're enjoying a stellar experience for their money. But many advanced users who pay for the pro for its best-in-class hardware are looking for software to make this extremely powerful tablet their primary mobile computing device. Even if iPad did have more MacBook features, it still for be wouldn't replace my at-home mac setup. There are just so many missing features on iPads, and when we are paying so much for this high end device and its accessories, we demand more. It is such a capable machine.
I had a 2018 iPad Pro back when it released. It got me through college and was a great little 11 inch tablet/computer until I switched to an M1 MacBook Pro. The file managements and desktop features and applications made me decide to downsize my iPad to the 6th Gen iPad mini.
I’ve been using this MacBook Pro/iPad combo for years now and been thrilled.
iPadOS really needs some improvements in specific areas but I think overall it’s the perfect tablet OS for what it is. It compliments MacOS but it doesn’t replace it.
Totally agree
As a whole, I am disappointed in the tech-verse. The world is so concerned about being “green” & protecting the planet but when it comes to tech gear, it’s a throw away start anew mentality. Equipment needs to last longer & be a lot more upgradable than what it is now. I understand there will always be an end of life date for everything but with tech, life of equipment is EXTREMELY short. Change this & I’ll be impressed!
Truly environmentally conscious/friendly products should be ones that can last for 10’s of years not 2 years…
The second iPad Pro that came out over 6 years ago, still gets the latest OS update. The OG iPad Pro still gets security updates, so it still works for most people’s needs. Apple isn’t the most guilty when it comes to making devices obsolete quick. Just look over on the Android side. They promise 7 years support starting this year, but let’s see. This isn’t their track record yet.
The thing for me is an improved Stage Manager that allows better stage and window management plus improved Files app, neither of which even require an M4 chip
you said nothing to justify ever upgrading to an m4 iPad. you named a bunch of features that older, cheaper ipads will all have access to. you also said the new keyboard and pencil should be considered a notable new feature but you neglected to mention that they cost an extra $500 together on top of the newley inflated prices. this type of video is exactly why apple feels they’re justified in raising prices on iPads by hundreds of dollars while offering nothing new besides a calculator app.
iPad and iPadOS have been utterly overpowered and underwhelming for a while now and this year is no different
I think the iPad would be cheaper if people wouldn’t want it ( I want it)… well, realistically they probably would kill the device instead of making it cheaper.
There were iOS updates and app updates - ipad just took those things and there was no innovation. format support, printer support, nothing was added and this needs to be done for ipad that doesn't need to be done for iOS - yet its all just repackaged iOS.
The biggest mistake that apple makes is a missing „Why?“ and a good reason.
Why M4 in the new iPad?
Why do I need such power in an iPad if no app can really make use of it?
They went really well with iPhone Chips in iPads for many years and now switched to Mac-Chips without a good reason and a usecase. It just feels about making money by forcing people to still buy both - Mac and iPad - with totally overpowered chips.
Those aren’t bad decisions - it’s just bad to not go the way till the end. Everything feels not rounded up. And there I feel with all complaints.
There are several of those bad circumstances floating around. For example has the A16 a faster neurale engine than the M2 - but no AI for the 14 Pro. It’s a Cook-Time 🤑, not the the former futuristic Jobs-Apple we all loved.
Very good software features additions in iPadOS-18.
Does not change the Omission of Desktop features that would be more useful such as:
1. File Manager (upgrade eg Finder)
2. Multitasking Manager (upgrade from Stage Manager)
3. Task Manager & Utility Manager
4. Windows Manager
Good points made and I too along with many were disappointed. Vitticci put it well. “WWDC ‘23 was all about Vision Pro, WWDC ‘24 is all about AI”. Really all the platforms received minor updates, but also very useful smaller features. At least there is now more parity between the platforms than in the early days. Apple may well improve existing features at point updates. We saw that with the arrival of the 1st gen Magic Keyboard. Betas are early, who knows what will come in shortcuts and other maybe unlikely places.
Sorry to say that you might have missed the big issue while you concentrated on building a defense line.
So AI is the big new thing and the M4 Chip is even better tailored to it than the M1 or M2.
The fact that the computing is done either on the equipment in your hand is good for privacy.
Even when it goes out to dedicated cloud services of Apple it seems well kept private. And if it goes outside of this you as the user can choose to ok or nok it.
What I miss is some information on what to do if I want to buy a new iPad.
Decision on size comes down to personal preference - decision done.
Decision on iPad Air or iPad Pro comes down on whether whether I prefer the new screen and / or the M4 over the M2 and me willing to put down the money for it - decision done.
But when it comes down on how much additional money I spend on memory there is no mention anywhere on what memory size the M4 engine may profit from…
Do I scape up the additional money for an upgrade to 512 GB, 1 TB or even 2 TB??? Or is the M4 engine performance just as good with 256 GB? Some background on that was definitely the information I was hoping for.
That there where only limited showcases on what it can do was expected as this was a developer event and the use cases (hopefully) will be getting developed and made available later this year. But do I now better wait purchasing the expensive iPad Pro to later this year or early next year because I have no clue how to „futureprove“ any purchase for the next 4+ years???
That is what annoyed me after the event was over the absolutely most.
If the AI Writting can make my chicken scrawl into legible words for others to read, that’s definitely a win.
I do wish that they had shared the Journal app with the iPad.
I sit with my iPad most nights doom scrolling and playing games. The journal on the iPad might actually encourage me to use it more.
Apple said iPad is the companion to the MacBook, but i feel like iPhone is still more of a companion to MacBook than iPad. I wish we got a new Swift playgrounds that was more capable or more “pro”. adding more extensions and features and be able to continue a project from iPad to mac and vice versa. A way to remote onto your mac from your iPad even if its an annoying floating window in stage manger bring it so i can continue working on something until i can sit down at my mac. Bring continuity camera to iPad or universal control to iPhone so i can control iPad and iPhone with my Magic Keyboard mouse.
I love it and my first M-4 pro 13” 1tb better than my m-series laptop, bought it for what it is a complimentary device and it’s sick. Many things are already shortcuts compared to my laptop and doable workarounds + iOS 18 looks perfect and OLED is the icing on the cake, next I’m waiting for the foldable laptop.
Yes, I am disappointed. I expected more on file handling, multitasking and productivity. I am not asking for MacOS in the iPad. But I want to be able to use productivity apps as complete as those used in a Mac. For example, Office Apps running those clunky iPadOS versions. It is a waste of time if you want to open more than two documents. And the M4 is way capable of doing that. I believe the same happens with the iWork Suite.
well this is Apple fan channel (as opposed to what his channel descriptions say “latest phones laptop and technology”) so it’s no wonder he defends Apple.
iPad os sucks, it’s doesn’t even have iOS journal apps
I upgraded to M4 from the M1, and I have to say it was mainly for the camera repositioned right 😂 The ipad is my daily driver, but I use the entire apple ecosystem all the time. It’s probably my favorite tech item.
I love the M4, for what it is. But there’s still a part of me that feels disappointed, I really thought there would be another reason for such a jump in processor power that would be unveiled during WWDC. I guess I was expecting something unique to the Ipad but…. No.
My entire workflow is already seamless on Ipad, I don’t feel limited or constrained in any way, so I’m good.
I want an evolved docked desktop mode with a proper cursor and the ability to run Mac Software. 99% of the professional software I use on a daily basis does not exist on the iPad.
I thought it was the worst WWDC ever. I wonder how many people were really all that excited about AI or Apple's Intelligence? I may not see a use case for where I need AI but who knows, maybe it will surprise me later on its usefulness. I was very bummed when there was no new hardware announcement like the M4 coming into some Macs or a new iPad mini. I also questioned why the some of the features are exclusive to the A17 Pro only for iPhone 15 Pro. That means that the regular iPhone 15 or 14 Pro doesn't get support for those new things.
Maybe they also think (for the time being) only “pro” devices buyers want the AI. Other people won’t use it that much… though in a few years every iPhone will end up having AI like what it is exclusive now.
Personally, I expect better from a company that charges as much as Apple does for their products. iPadOS should be in a better place by now (coming from someone with a pro model and who is not a content creator or artist). I have an iPhone, an iMac as well as an iPad. I as a customer want iPadOS to be unique enough to where I NEED to use all three or at least two out of the three. I’m not asking for MacOS on iPad, however I am asking for a truly, price worthy, unique experience on my several hundred dollar iPad Pro.
Bingo!
Feels very much de já vu (M1 release on iPad and awaiting WWDC to untap the power).
I’ve got an M1 and happy as I’ve hit my workflow that works for it but feel sorry for those that may have got an iPad Pro hoping a few more pro experiences would come round.
Silver bullet for me would be that I can do the same (boring but productive) things that I do with a desktop computer such as
- full office software functionalities like pivot tables in excel
- advanced PowerPoint slide work
Sounds boring and easy but if someone sends me a work spreadsheet… I actually can’t do anything with it on iPad as likely it will have a pivot table in it.
Same goes for if someone uses a complex font in a slide as they used desktop PowerPoint
This makes me feel like £1k is a lot for an iPad as this is a very real workflow in the office.
Seemingly a surface pro can do with half the horse power.
Well, I can't speak for everyone... but I'd personally been waiting for simultaneously audio playback. This option has been something I've wanted for awhile now.
Currently use Sound Assistant with Android under my Galaxy Fold and given the introduction of Stage Manager... it seems like a glaring omission.
One big disadvantage to iPad OS is when operations stop when switching from one app to another. It doesn’t continue in the background as it does on MacOS. This alone makes the iPad not pro for me.
I was expecting though better workflow integration for me regarding multitasking. Perhaps a bit more close to a Macbook or a Macbook way of working. To make an iPAD really a Macbook replacement. I want that cos I love the versatility of iPAD the I can't get on a Macbook,
I love my iPad as an iPad. That said, I think Apple has already created the solution to the “Pro” problem, and announced it minutes after the iPad presentation…mirroring the iPhone on the Mac. If they could implement a similar “Back to My Mac” service for the iPad Pro. Boom. Fixed. Now you get the best of both worlds in the device.
Mirroring the Mac on the iPad?
@@manart6506 Yep. That would certainly get around the lack of font book, true multitasking, etc. while not cannibalizing the Mac business.
People are so spoiled in the Apple world but nice video
When you buy a new iPad Pro, you’re always buying into the future. If you just want an iPad experience, buy a cheaper one - they’re great. iPad Pro is for those who want cutting edge state of the art tech. The new Pro brings a delight to use for me - it’s crazy good - and is amazing what Apple have crammed into a super thin OLED display machine. But dont buy it if you want a MacBook experience
This makes no sense
What exactly is the future you’re buying
That’s the point
Apple knew that a lot of people would buy the M4 iPad hoping for an update at WWDC
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Imagine having a MacBook Air and had to use the files app. Stage manager (4 window limit and all). And all the other half baked nonsense. BUT if you bought a MacBook PRO you had macOS.
This is where we are at. You don’t want to develop for it fine. Then the most a good one should cost is $399. Don’t give me that nonsense.
I have a Mac Studio and I save the majority of my files in Files so it can access them on my MacBook, iPhone , and iPad. Just a folder in the finder window. What do people want it to do?
Time to switch to a surface pro I think
Most people seem to just want a touch screen Mac… and that’s not what the iPad is 🤷🏻♂️
I went from the 2018 11inch iPad Pro to the M4 iPad Pro and it’s a big improvement.
It’s all about how the apps take advantage of the iPads power and features. iPad OS itself really isn’t in bad shape
Agreed
This for real! I don’t want iPad to become a touch-screen Mac… if I wanted a Mac I would just have bought a Mac. I think people don’t understand that a tablet is meant for people who use it to draw, note take, light game on the go, animate, read ebooks, etc.; things that need the touch and pen capabilities to function effectively. In my opinion , having a keyboard to type on is a welcome bonus, not a necessary one
@@NomadicSims well said
I made the exact same upgrade. I’ve got the 13 inch M4 now, and I love it so far. Blazing fast, and just overall better in every way.
Agreed.
People always complain. I like iPadOS I love my iPad and I use my iPad more than my MacBook.
some sort of dex equivalent
I think this update was useless. I’m not a student or someone that needs to solve equations or write notes every day. Don’t really care about the AI features at the moment, at least not enough to upgrade either my phone or iPad. The way I see it the great 2018 Pro can survive another year because this update is not worth it for most people and certainly not enough for what most people wanted.
I think the biggest problem with so many people being disappointed in this new OS release is that there are (mostly) too many unrealistic expectations that people expect for it. I do blame most of the RUclips tech channel community for that because “predictions/wishlists/rumors” videos are popular and do nothing than build expectations that will mostly likely never come to fruition. So when the actual event unfolds, everyone becomes disappointed.
However, Chris, you make a lot of valid points about viewers needing to change themselves instead of expecting changes around them. We’re so imbued with the idea that we don’t have to change. Instead, the world needs to change around us. And you’re 100% correct in that people will always look for something to complain about. If you give them one thing they like, they no longer have something to complain about so they look for something else to do the same. It’s a chronic pattern in our culture. No one is ever satisfied - we’re looking for more, better, easier, etc, - not because we need those things but because it’s a process that gives us some sense of “meaning and purpose” in our lives. It’s a false sense of feeling like we’re trying to make a difference when it only ends up being a sort of frustration because things aren’t going our ways.
In other words, we need to stop relying on being “spoon fed” by society on what we think we need or want and learn how to get the benefits and satisfaction for what we have right now, and be content. We need to let changes in life and tech come naturally, not forced upon us through a false narrative.
I just want the Journal app on my iPad. I’ve successfully replaced my 2012 mid-year MacBook Pro with my iPad Pro M2. I fill out documents, PDFs, Music playlist, Music in general, RUclips Podcast, Movies (not as much as I thought I would), Freeform barely, Workouts (mostly Apple TV though), Writing music, Work Task sometimes, I mean. I could go on. Several different emails. It’s my go to that feels different than my iPhone these days. When I had the 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, and 4th Gen IPad minis. Those all felt like bigger iPhones. I can firmly say that the iPad Pro M2 with the magic keyboard (which I love by the way), Apple Pencil, is awesome. I’m not upgrading for at least 5 years out or until it’s no longer compatible with the latest iPadOS update.
The AI stuff mentioned With transcription, handwriting improvement even math note taking has already been available in IPad through apps for quite some time. It’s a tremendous disappointment that doesn’t justify the upgrade. If anything the AI will change the way we use our phones.
As a content creator working mainly from the iPad, the AI features will be really great, but for the other """""new""""" features, yeah it's dogsh1t and they could have done waaaaay better to use M4
Hi Chris. Appreciate this video and your perspective.
I’ve come to the conclusion that if I didn’t read/watch all the iPad Pro and iPadOS reviews … I wouldn’t have any complaints about iPad. 😂 For my use, iPad Pro and iPadOS works great.
Been using iPads since iPad 2. Traveled all over the world with iPad as my device for writing, communicating, doing seminars, keynotes, and more. Always loved my iPads. My M4 iPad Pro is amazing. My M1 MacBook Pro has been shutdown for weeks. Only used it to record some video because I needed the wider aspect ratio. (Could have done that on my iPad Pro.)
So … lots of new exciting things introduced at WWDC. Nothing to be disappointed about.
And yes, I will continue to watch all tech reviews.
All I really wanted was decent, Mac-like windows management (and NO Stage Manager doesn't come close) and a functional, intuitive file management system (Files is pathetic). No, I don't want my iPad to be a Mac, but I DO want a Finder (or Finder equivalent) that functions at least as well as, say, System 7 did (sarcasm alert!). Why is that too much to ask of a $2500 (with MKB and Pencil Pro) device?
I liked your take on the announcements of WWDC24. Initially I was a little disappointed with iPadOS 18, mainly because improved background processing wasn’t part of iPadOS 18. The files app in my opinion is ok and can wait, it will get better over time. Looking through the keynote again, I am ok with the updates and am looking forward to the public beta, I am just hoping my M1 11” iPad Pro with just 8GB of memory will be able to handle the new Apple Intelligence features. I use my 11” iPad Pro for the majority of my computing needs, the only one is stacking my Astrophotography data / fits files using a program like SIRIL. I feel that iPadOS will continue to evolve over time and will eventually be able to fully eliminate a MacBook or even a desktop.
I have been wanting an iPad calculator since the first iPad came out. 🤷🏾♀️ My biggest issue with iPad OS was it wasn’t different enough from iOS. It’s very different from iOS now, hopefully iPad OS 18 gets even better. I was waiting for WWDC to order mine, especially since now I know mine won’t be compatible with the new features.
Nice video!, agree with a lot of points. In my case, i’m disappointed that the simple stuff still not there. Calendar can’t add a google meet, Safari can’t work with a lot of webapps, is not MacOS Safari, lots for web apps scrolling is weird for example. Stage Manager feels buggy. Mail app doesn’t have google push sync (battery issue to sync every few minutes).
Ai great!! iOS18 liked it. iPadOS great adds, but there’s a lot of basic stuff missing
I don’t understand one thing about iPadOS complaints: when you compare MacBook Air and MacBook Pro they have the same OS but nobody is complaining about the MacBook Pro not being Pro…iPad Pro has much better specs but the same OS, just as well, but everybody’s complaining…if you want a Mac buy a Mac…iPad and Mac are complimentary, both from a productivity point of view, and both commercially i think…they have no reason to merge into one single thing…
I think the new Control Center will be extremely useful for streamlining my workflow! Now I will be able to pin my custom Siri Shortcuts right up in the Control Center for quick access. It’s essentially added half of the macOS Menu Bar’s functionality to iPadOS with the new APIs for third party developers to create controls for their apps. This is essentially equivalent to macOS Menu Bar Apps.
I disappointed at first with WWDC24, I thought iOS 18 for phone and iPad were a tad underwhelming. However, thinking about it for a day or two ,the big thing this year was Apple Intelligence and the things the devices will be able do in years to come. My M2 iPad Pro is perfect tablet / computer, I feel like I will be able to have this device for another 4-5 years and not feel left out of all the improvements APPLE makes to software or devices.
Ppl have a lot of stuff to say about iPads and iPadOS 😂 to me iPads are better than the avg tablet and it allows me to do everything like create music write books save and sign business documents it’s great for WORK BEING CREATIVE and Leisure I believe those who complain just buy iPads to brag 🙌🏿
To all of those people that just want the iPad to be a Mac i have a great idea that you probably didn’t think of…. how about and this might sound shocking so bear with me go BUY A MACBOOK. The iPad is suppose to be different otherwise what’s the point of an iPad???? if it just does the same things as a Mac???? You can do 95% of the things you can do on the Mac on the iPad + you can do all the special things that only an iPad can do on iPad. You should be very happy with that!!!!!!!! If it was up to me the iPad wouldn’t have a keyboard, mouse or a file system!!! The iPad is suppose to be different!!! It suppose to have a new way to type or navigate, something we didn’t even think of something thats amazing not just copy what has already been done!!!!! Otherwise what’s the point? we still have the negatives of having to carry a heavy keyboard and mouse things that don’t disappear when not in use. Or the ridiculous complexity of a file system. If you are not forward thinking leave the iPad alone and go buy a MacBook. Gracias
The idea of people pivoting is absolutely true. You could give iPadOS everything people claim to want, and they would then proceed to cry about it. ANYBODY who wants the iPad to run macOS: it’s time to grow up. iPad is a tablet, stop wanting a non-tablet OS. It has been shown that a LOT of people use the iPad for professional uses.
I think the problem is bigger than one thing. Apple has been lagging in certain functionality (expansion of iPad functionality to be more capable as a laptop substitute) to protect their product line. They have a great ecosystem, BUT they are now falling behind. We need a touch screen laptop alternative. Is that a touch screen macbook or a more robust iPad? I don't think we care. They need an OS to get there. It is 2024 and they are playing catch up in AI, but they haven't even matched what Microsoft has been doing in consumer hardware for the better part of a decade. This makes their leapfrog strategy in AI look a little flimsy at best, and like mouth service and empty promises at worst.
Things they need to be developing:
Bi-fold or tri-fold phone that works as a phone or ipad mini
iPhone desktop mode; connect to an external monitor and have a desktop experience so you don't have to take your computer everywhere for presentations or doing light work
Touch screen laptop to tablet - Moral of the story for the last three bullets is, we need software that supports hybrid use cases and hardware that enables that productivity
Apple Music - Can someone please "invent" smart playlists??? Why are we still building playlists like we are making cassette tapes? Allow us to create a master playlist and then filter everything that goes into that playlist by, year, genre, decade, mode, etc., etc., etc., and then save the filters as "Smart Playlists". Sometimes we just want to filter songs we already saved without having to create an entirely new playlist for the event/mood.
Gaming: Get out of the way. Let developers have the resources they need to emulate other hardware' games on your devices. 8-16 bit systems is not enough to stay competitive in the game space. Users want one platform for gaming, and if OSX isn't it, they will stay elsewhere.
Apple Notes: Can you just rip off or buy everything Notion or Obsidian has ever done and incorporate it into this app?
Apple Reminders: We need more rules to auto update reminders based on other variables associated with the reminder. If I move a reminder into a column called "Archived" why not allow me to auto move the reminder to an Archived list and remove it from my active list? Currently this cannot be done in shortcuts (I have tried)
Which brings me to my last point, Shortcuts; we need a lot more out of this. We need more 3rd party developer integrations. We need more 1st party application variables for more recent features and fucntionality. We just need more consistent focus here. Apple Intelligence, Chat GPT, Siri 2.0 or anything else you call AI won't be much help if it doesn't have access to a core framework of capabilities, that I would expect would be robustly documented in Shortcuts.
Ok, rant over. I love Apple, but it is beginning to feel liek they are stringing us along and doing the minimally viable product for cost efficiencies and in some cases, to protect their bottom line.
As much as I love iPad Pro, all the apps I use are like the baby version. RUclips, Final Cut, and certain websites I use can't stay open because of the memory being bad at management. And I am considering strongly going back to publishing videos on RUclips. And even publishing a book on Apple Books needs the full version of microsoft word. It's better to write journals and read books the old fashioned way. Hey even buy a book in a scroll 📜 version. Your eyes will thank you. Oh and sound on iPad and iPhone is so annoying. I want to listen to ambient sounds and browse through some articles but my music is stopped automatically because iPadOS and iOS can't manage multiple sound sources. I think I'm going back to the mac. A desktop setup is where your neck and back will thank you for better ergonomics.
I am not a fan of Stage Manager on my 13" M4 iPad Pro. It hogs too much screen space and limits the adjustment of the window's size. I guess trying to address screen aspect ration? A much larger screen is needed to make Stage Manager usable IMHO. Frankly I miss a more sophisticated iOS when I am using my Apple Magic Keyboard as it does tend to raise my expectations of having a more laptop experience. It is just something I have a hard time shaking of that expectation with the keyboard..
I upgraded to the iPad 11” M2 simply because I wanted a bigger laminated display, I have no regrets coming from my retired/traded in iPad mini 5. I’m not using it as a laptop replacement, but I do use it more than my laptop. Videos and movies on this thing are amazing. The iPad is a great casual kick back device. A nice desk, bed , kitchen and toilet companion 😂 I’m sorry for the folks who want to actually work from the iPad, Apple will never let that happen. Purchase a MacBook Air and call it a day.
Im so tired of this narrative that iPads are lack luster. They compare it to a traditional clamshell style computer they've known for years and that's all they know. On the other hand i grew up with windows and i grew up with iOS. iPadOS is iOS on steroids. its am intimate touch based os. You have to figure out new work flows, better work flows and figure out if a touch based os is best for your work case scenario. obviously if you want to do traditional laptop style work, use a laptop. This isn't rocket science, but sooooo many people want what THEY want. most people are childish in this respect. Apple has THE BEST engineers and designers and creative minds inn the world. And i give apple and there engineers the upmost respect and praise. They've created this amazing touch based computer and people still want to use it like they're used to, as a laptop. Just disrespects all the hard wok all apples engineers put in to make this touch based system magical. Drag and drop multi touch gestures palm rejection, etc. And yes iPados is still way newer than macOS so more developers have made work flow apps better for mac, just makes sense. As an iPad pro user you have to figure out a new way to work and a new work flow, but i love my workflow now WAY more than my old school workflow on my MacBook. Stop wanting apple to change for you, instead YOU decide whether a touch based computer is best for you or not.... grow up. If you too want to touch a screen and draw once a year, buy an iPad mini along side your MacBook.
Hey Chris greetings from Australia. Love your videos. I just bought the M4 iPad Pro for what it is today. Not for what I want it or hope it’s going to be in the future. Its an iPad not a Mac. Granted it’s a powerful iPad but still an iPad.and I love it! To me the M4 is just a future proofing chip for more intensive games or apps that come out later and obviously the new AI stuff in iPadOS 18. It’s just a nice to have. I bloody love this thing. Its joy to use as it is. If I want to have proper mac things like Finder and proper files system etc id buy a Mac.
For all these features you don’t need a $2K M4 iPP. Just got me the M1 iPP for half the money and this will be supported too with Apple Intelligence. An iPad will be an iPad and not a second class laptop! I don‘t need a keyboard or an external display with the iPad. I use my Macs for that! The use case for pro iPads will be AI, and for that you don’t need keyboards….
Very disappointed. I was absolutely sure there had to be a pretty big update to justify putting the M4 in the latest iPad Pro. So I took the plunge, 1TB cellular model anticipating something was coming. I mean basically they put the iOS updates on the iPad as well. Really disappointing. I get your point on the AI announcements, but when is it coming, later this year / next year. Windows devices are launching now.
I have the M1 iPad Pro 11”, and dont plan on upgrading it to the M4 particularly after hearing that the AI features will be brought to all M class devices. And while there are some things i would agree that iPadOS could share with Mac OS to make them more symbiotic and seamless, these appear to be happening with each software upgrade anyway. The IPad becoming more like the MacBook and vice versa.
Maybe because I’m from a different generation, I don’t know, but I have a hard time understanding why we continue to make excuses for Apple not giving us what we (the customers) continue to ask for year after year. The customer should hold ALL of the power. Not the other way around. At least, that’s the way it used to be. We continue to let businesses and corporations rule over us like governments. So, we shouldn’t have to “upgrade ourselves” to work around Apple’s business model, but demand they adapt their business model around the customers needs and wants.
I wasn’t disappointed. While I know we usually get some form of software magic at WWDC, the fact of the matter is it’s a developers conference, not a consumers conference. One of the things that I noticed and it was very subtle with the number of times they said that the API’s are going to be open to third-party developers, I’m not Developer, but I understand what that means. It means that many of the things people are clamoring for can be done by somebody if not, Apple. But I’m old enough to remember when the killer app was not an apple app, it was VisiCalc.
I was quite happy with the iPad announcement because I don’t want the iPad to be a Mac, and that’s really what the disappointed people wanted. Note that iOS was considered to have a huge number of new features yet iPadOS was considered sparse. Think about it. This was the year of AI. IPadOS got everything iOS got and then some with new Pencil support with handwriting. Why is the iPad considered sparse while the iPhone had an embarrassment of riches when the iPad got more than the iPhone did? Did people really expect much more than AI on everything?
Huge Dissapointment - i cannot understand if you look at how the numbers dropped of sales revenue for apple ipad category by itself ......You cannot understand how Apple can play with their consumers emotions like this. They bring out a M4 only to make it seem that there is big stuff coming on the horizon ....Here is the m4 ipad wow so powerful but we cant tell you yet why you getting a m4 (just buy it you wont regret it ...wow wow m4 power) Wait till wwdc we will anounce why the m4 is here...... WWDC HAPPENS - and still people are scratching their heads cos the M4 Power can still not be utilized - there is still no reason for m4 which means .......Apple has nothing lined up just a smoke screen to make people buy a overpowered piece of technology that lacks a operating system that they cannot make better.... I mean really how long can it take to better a OS ? the beta is at use now but still that even is a mess and not working ( should they not have had this ready in tip top shape for wwdc?) Its the biggest joke ever. Ive been resisting to purchase the ipad pro m2 since december hearing of the launch of the new m4's ....patiently waiting as they got launched nearly 6months later ...then waiting again another month as it was promised wwdc will reveal why u need the m4 power - super dissapointed nothing of it came all lies. This is exactly why I am not a Apple fan its all lies and they work on peoples emotions and buying power for niche products that get oversold and under utilized.
“If Apple made a completely different experience, you would know how to use it”.
So you’re saying we’re stupid?
C’mon, you don’t need to insult us to spin an awful ipadOS announcement just to not antagonize Apple.
The Files app in the beta is still buggy! I can't move or copy a 2GB file from Google Drive or iCloud onto my iPad. There isn't even an error message! Also when selecting multiple files in Google Drive and trying to move those onto the iPad only a single file gets moved. That's so incredibly lame!
I am not a typical iPad user. I would have liked to see 2 things on the iPad: XCode and a terminal app with full access to everything that Files has access to.
I was also disappointed, but more by the lack of fine-tuning. The FilesApp, background functions and other "little things" that make everyday life easier should have been improved. I think they had more to do with AI this year.
I wish files were better so I could more easily sync my data with my NAS. I wish there was a terminal, and I wish I could write and run python. But my 2017 10.5 iPad pro battery is nearly dead, so I need to upgrade. I just wish there was some functionality with the M4 that would make the Pro worth it. Still undecided on what to get.
When you buy a Mac, you also get a license of macOS. So if Apple ever decides to allow dual booting of iPadOS with macOS, don’t be surprised if you have to buy a copy of macOS too.
For me, I updated my iPad Pro from 2018 so there was some really nice features for me.
But, the one thing I really like to use that I couldn’t use on my 2018 iPad Pro is Final Cut Pro for iPad.
Ability to manage background activities is the biggest missing thing on the iPad. I can use the iPad as is, but there are simple things like copying photos from my SSD to a NAS which will not work seamlesslybecause of the way ipados treats background activities
Colored icons and reorganization of control center doesn’t do crap for iPadOS. If the most exciting thing was a calculator, you got a problem. IpadOS desperately needs a files app overhaul, and stage manager needs to be revamped to be less restrictive. iPadOS is smooth animation wise, but to perform tasks intuitively, the OS is constantly getting in the way of letting you do things you want to do how you expect to be able it do it
My decision to buy the iPad Pro was based on the iPad OS update having improvements that make it valuable. Adding the calculator, was not it. They would be better off working on Mirroring the MacBook desktop onto the iPad just like they did it with the iPhone. I think kids are going to be able to use the Math notes feature to cheat and solve problems without thinking about them.
I think it’s because half of the iPad community wants it to run Mac OS instead of just making improvements to iPadOS. Personally the only thing I wanted that they didn’t do was rework the files app a bit
Why didn’t these customers simply wait to see what the software improvements looked like before buying? Seems like complaining for the sake of complaining.
I'm not looking for any complete reimagining of iPadOS in iPadOS18, but I was hoping for some better productivity based improvements. The Files app, apps continuing to run in the background, etc. would have been awesome. For example, I use ShellFish to get to my Linux servers. If I shrink down the ShellFish window to get to another window like Mail, neither window has enough real estate to do anything meaningful, and this is on a 13" Pro model. If I swipe away from the ShellFish window while something is processing (like rendering video on a Linux server), it halts, loses the connection, and I have to start from scratch. At this point, my iPad has just become a big terminal window. Now, this is obviously a one off case, but I can think of a ton of reasons why background multitasking would be a huge win, especially on an iPad that has a better processor than my M1 Mac mini.
You should look into using mosh instead of ssh. I'm using it with Blink Shell. I can switch away and my sessions stay connected.
That being said, I want Apple to add a Terminal app so I can run stuff locally.
Keep up the good work and stay positive. The iPad is amazing. Thank you for not being a downer and listening to all of these people commenting negative things on your video. It’s hard not to get audience captured and just starting to say negative things to get more views. But i love it!!!! Thank you
You don't need to buy the latest iPad. Just stick to what work best for you. I bought the new iPad not because of the M4, but because of the OLED and weight reduction. Pick what matter most to you then.
Apple makes it so obvious they don't care about the iPad. Why did the iPad not get the window tiling and iPhone remote access feature that the Mac got. Even the note calculator feature is actually a feature that comes to all platforms. Usually they would have waited a year to bring over the new control center to iPad to make it better for the iPads larger screen like they did with the lockscreen. But this time they just had to copy the feature 1:1 because the update is already so tiny. I truly do not understand how one could have a positive reaction to this update.
iPadOS 18 is so underwhelming, it will hurt iPad sales. The M4 is op for it and needlessly raised the price point. Bad Apple. 🍏 😢
iPad M4 user here. Dissatisfied, but I expected this. At least Notes has enough features that I can ditch Obsidian / GoodNotes - but still…
Its files. We hate files. Its not about wanting iPad to be a Mac. i love the iPad for what it is already too, im an artist so i use it even more than my laptop. but the organization on it is absolute garbage for me. The only thing that keeps me going is that i don't have to deal with it as much due to procreate and dreams keeping my files in their app. Despite how much i love the iPad, if i had to deal with files every time i needed to open the project, id probably move to my other drawing tablets. Thats how much i hate it 😂
I think Apple was being sarcastic and poking fun when they announced the calculate .. but the math notes looks wonderful! It will take parameters.
videos like this is why apple will continue to disappoint. i get you love apple, i do as well but we can not continue to accept these weak updates. ipads can be capable of so much yet apple continues to disappoint. the complaints are justifiable. it's 2024. stop making these crappy videos