Don't Pay $50k! Here's Our Honest 2023 GR Corolla Circuit Review

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024

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  • @PaintflowException
    @PaintflowException Год назад +8

    I love mine. Everything you said about throttling out of a corner. It just claws its way through corners when you put in throttle. Its just glorious, and my two kids love it.

  • @VitoC.
    @VitoC. Год назад +5

    Loved the intro lol.
    Been waiting for the one!
    Nice job, great "little" car...

  • @IamJay02
    @IamJay02 Год назад +7

    Let me say this is one of my new dream cars. A reliable performance hatch back from Toyota is so cool to me. 6 speed manual and a 3 cylinder turbo mmmmm. But that price yuck!

  • @not12listen
    @not12listen Месяц назад

    I knew what the GR Corolla was going to be before I bought mine. And it is nearly perfect! I only wish that it was mid-engine (long time AW11 owner). :)
    I agree with everything you've stated about the GR Corolla, especially that quite a few people buy it because it's the 'new, cool' car - then they end up selling it because it's too harsh, or whatever other complaint they come up with.
    My only nitpick on the car is the intake. I do wish that some air channeling was put in place for the flappy door so as to limit the amount of air getting to it from behind the radiator.

  • @chrisginoc
    @chrisginoc Год назад +14

    I really wanted to like the GR Corolla and in all intents and purposes, this is what we all wanted Toyota to do. Develop a hot hatch or have an all in house sporty car unlike the GR86 or GR Supra (love those cars even though they are a collaboration). The issue with the GR Corolla are the small production numbers and dealership markups ripping people off. Toyota obviously didn't want to produce too many otherwise the value goes down.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +2

      GR Corolla is brilliant. Highlights what Toyota is genuinely capable of doing.

    • @MangelBanselmo
      @MangelBanselmo Год назад +1

      Wish I could've gotten my hands on a Circuit Edition. Tried for months now. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to get one. 55k-60k for one is just insane. I'm on the Westcoast in California

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc Год назад

      @@MangelBanselmo Same here. I'm in Orange County, California. Tried searching for one for months and even called across the country countless dealerships. I ended up going with the Supra 6MT a few months ago. No regrets.

    • @niftyvidy
      @niftyvidy 11 месяцев назад +2

      Why would Toyota care about the after sale fair value? Lol

  • @NerdyCanadian96
    @NerdyCanadian96 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is the car I would buy if I won a 50 million lottery. I want a sports car, but no point in having something you are afraid to scratch or drive outside of perfect condition. This would be fun and great in the winter too!

  • @rayk7612
    @rayk7612 Год назад +2

    I just put a down payment on a Circuit addition. The dealer has a $3k package to include a bunch of stuff you don't need but I was forced to pay. No other markups; they gouge you for a cell phone cable kit and Toyoguard Platinum package. I'm excited! It's in Jacksonville coming off the boat and needing an inspection. Should be home here in Ocala next week. Mine comes in 'Heavy Metal' with 'Cockpit Red' interior.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +1

      Not a bad deal, all things considered! Enjoy!

    • @awakeadventurer9198
      @awakeadventurer9198 11 месяцев назад

      All red? Not just red piping on the seat edges etc?

    • @rayk7612
      @rayk7612 11 месяцев назад

      @@awakeadventurer9198 I received the GRC Circuit today. The interior has red fabric beneath the black perforated suede seat covers plus red deviated stitching. It is much more to my liking than the screaming red interior of the Type R and hides dirt better.

    • @rayk7612
      @rayk7612 11 месяцев назад

      I paid $55805 out the door to include a lifetime powertrain warranty and an additional 9-year warranty plan covering just about everything else with a $100 deductible. The additional coverage includes all electronics that could become pricey if an ECU goes or any other of the electronic gadgets. I plan on keeping my GRC a good long time. I also receive 4 years of oil changes and tire rotation for free. I really love the car! Today was the 1st time I was able to drive a GRC. Compared to my old 2004 Boxster S, the GRC has more to like. The GRC is an interesting concept, and Toyota's execution of this rally car is commendable. It is in some ways similar to my very inexpensive 2014 Corolla LE with a 6-speed. (I paid $16k out the door, new, back then.) The GRC is so much nicer and a bit more thirsty at the pump but all things considered I'm happy to have such a nice ride. Geico gave me a good deal on insurance, too.

  • @edwardmartinez1258
    @edwardmartinez1258 Год назад +11

    Luckily I was able to buy my circuit edition at my local dealership for MSRP 😊

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +1

      No way!

    • @LateNightDateNight
      @LateNightDateNight Год назад

      I’m on a waiting list for a Circuit at MSRP also, only way I’d ever buy it

    • @MangelBanselmo
      @MangelBanselmo Год назад +1

      Damn, what dealership guys 🥹 please let me know. I can't find any nationwide. When I call, I'm always hit with the markup line.

    • @secessionnow4133
      @secessionnow4133 2 месяца назад

      Sucker

  • @sunnyvalentino
    @sunnyvalentino Год назад +7

    My issue with this car is the sweet handling (and slightly less practical) 86, which can be had for under MSRP and around 30k loaded. The Elantra N is 33k, and loaded. It feels special as well and about to be refreshed. This car is different (rally style) and more "special" but 42k is already pushing it a lot. That's before markups. I agree with Brian, don't do the markups.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +2

      If you don’t need the power or all wheel drive, there are plenty of options, but this is a pretty special package.

    • @sunnyvalentino
      @sunnyvalentino Год назад

      @BrianMakse thanks. Yes, it's special for sure. Motomachi and Takumi built. For that and all the other things you highlighted, you are right, 38 to 42k is worth it.

  • @vernonnathaniel6596
    @vernonnathaniel6596 10 месяцев назад +2

    It looks way better than the Gti-R and most cars in its class🎉

    • @richurro20
      @richurro20 3 месяца назад

      Looks like a egg 😂😂

  • @johnb2941
    @johnb2941 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can you turn off the nannies and slide it a little? I have a supposed RWD performance car that you can't turn them off. The instant it senses the slightest slip angle it cuts the engine to keep it in line. Mine might as well be FWD. Drives great but not as fun as it could be which is why i ask about shutting off traction control. ??

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 месяцев назад

      The all wheel drive system is so well resolved in the GR Corolla, that in the dry and the wet, it's just planted. I haven't tried it in the snow, but with the 30:70 torque split, you'd probably get a little power on oversteer. Yes, you can turn systems off. All the GRs are drivers cars and reward tidy inputs. What kind of car are you driving?

    • @johnb2941
      @johnb2941 7 месяцев назад

      @@BrianMakse Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0 turbo. They are great cars that handle wonderfully but for the issue I spoke of. I was told it couldn't be turned off for safety concerns. That's a lie. On the Quadrafoglio model there is a race mode and you can turn the stuff off. They can't explain why it's unsafe to turn off traction control on a 280 hp car but safe on a 500 hp car. Go figure. For under $300 I think one can do the conversion to add the race mode switch to the 2.0 cars but I'm thinking that will void my 7 year warranty.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 месяцев назад

      @@johnb2941 Good question. The QV was a blast to drive. Never driven the 2.0, so I can't comment. To be fair the QV is too much car for 99.9% of drivers, so why they make systems fully switchable is an interesting question.

    • @johnb2941
      @johnb2941 7 месяцев назад

      @@BrianMakse You are right about too much car for most but so are a lot of cars like the Hellcat and a bunch more with a ton of power. People with no training believe they can handle it. Reminds me of the Kenny Chesney song with the lyric that says the throttle stuck, now he's going as fast as a Rambler could go. Thinks he knows how Richard Petty feels. No He doesn't.

  • @ariqwilliams9156
    @ariqwilliams9156 10 месяцев назад +1

    I know a dealer in Atlanta charging 5K over. Not awful but not MSRP. Unfortunately that’s still the market and the car goes for 5K over depending on the trim used

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 месяцев назад

      That’s almost a good deal!

  • @93455Driver
    @93455Driver Год назад +3

    Yikes, now I worrying whether I am the right type of person to have purchased this car. I think I am okay since this is my only car (unless I borrow She Who Must Be Obeyed SUV). At the moment my Circuit Edition looks decidedly less than Ice Cap white since it gets used every day (though not really exercised as Akio intended on my work commutes). To be truthful, I was trying to get a fully loaded Core, the Circuit being a little too showy for me (vent nostrils, huge spoiler, etc.) but I have got use to the look and I am telling myself that the car is another one of my many ongoing mid (and later) life crises. Getting to the car itself, I totally agree with everything Brian said including his main concerns about seat height and pedal spacing (not that I am a good heel toe down shifter myself). The GR Corolla forums are awesome and you can source after market adjustable pedal kits if you want to remedy the pedal spacing. Another negative is that the trunk space is not good compared to other hatches especially the Civic. The car is AWESOME to drive, just so confidence experience inspiring. One of the surprises for is how many different sounds the engine makes, very talkative compared the EA888 in my old GTI. I do hope that lots of owners use their GRCs as their daily, that is what hot hatches are about.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад

      I definitely prefer the aesthetic of the Circuit. As for certain GR Corolla drivers, I recently saw one at a track day (cool), but the driver couldn’t find an apex if it punched him in the face (uncool).

    • @93455Driver
      @93455Driver Год назад +1

      @@BrianMakse I have only been in track once and I was less than useless but do like twisty roads. Have heard that on track that the GR has some over heating issues, I think with the center diff, but as usual the after market is coming up with fixes.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +2

      @@93455Driver I wouldn't worry about what non-racers say too much. I've done two track days in GR Corollas without issue, but I might have a clue about driving 😎

    • @93455Driver
      @93455Driver Год назад

      @@BrianMakse :) I doubt I will drive my Corolla that hard to find out but good to know!

  • @k1ngKal
    @k1ngKal Год назад +3

    Dealership near me in a Houston TX said he sold the last one not even a circuit, just the base GR for 80k. And if I want to order one, I told him $&@$ U. I’m not stupid or desperate. Dealers like you need to go out of business. I’ll get mine somewhere else. I’ll never support dealers who past present our future top of customer.

  • @wardellward
    @wardellward Год назад +2

    The color looks awesome

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад

      Way better in person. It was a nice surprise to see a paint with depth and complexity on a Toyota.

  • @jamesnicol3831
    @jamesnicol3831 11 месяцев назад +1

    Brian drives the cars real drivers desire

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind Год назад +1

    Seems like the Japanese are purposely limiting production on the manuals. GR Corolla, Integra Type-S, FL5 Type-R, Civic Si... all of them are only offered in manual transmission, but potentials have to deal with long waits and mark-ups. Given that each of these car come from there own assemble line and less then 1 percent of North American buy manual cars, how is this happening?

    • @chrisginoc
      @chrisginoc Год назад +1

      They are purposely limit production because of the economy and interest rates around the world being at 20+ year highs. If GR Corollas flood the new car market, their value goes down. Manufacturers learned from the last financial crisis and during this recession (whether we are in one now or barely entering one), Toyota doesn't want new cars sitting on lots. It also doesn't help that dealerships are ripping people off.

  • @vernonnathaniel6596
    @vernonnathaniel6596 10 месяцев назад +1

    Like the Corolla rxi, it's not everyone car but it's still a legend,imagine if everyone could afford one,I understand that it's over priced but it's the GR Corolla,let's hope for more units in the next instalments,prices should drop,at least Toyota can more or less match the Golf Gti-R,so I'm impressed that Toyota is back❤🥳Lead the way ....Toyota

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  10 месяцев назад

      You’d think that the manual would keep speculators away, but not with this one. With those model designations I have to ask, which market are you in? We don’t have those in North America.

  • @boots_n_coots
    @boots_n_coots 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’m holding out for the Circus Edition 😂

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  11 месяцев назад +1

      The way I saw one being driven at a recent track day made it look like the pilot got his training at the circus.

  • @boyutang6990
    @boyutang6990 11 месяцев назад +1

    We are just living in world where EVO/Focus RS/STI died, so this doesn't have much competition. In Canada an Elantra N is 20k cheaper than Core(with markup) and arguably more fun and a circuit is worth Supra money.
    I wanted this car, I owned STI/Golf R/Veloster N all in manual so I've been living in this world for a long time, these suppose to be affordable fun daily performance car. At the end of the day to me this a Toyota version of STI, there is no way I'm paying this absurd money. I don't understand people who pays crazy markup for these kind of cars, why not buying BBA for the same price? Why Corolla/Civic/Z?

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  11 месяцев назад

      This is incredibly good, but it ain't worth some of the ADM asking prices.

  • @mmahtnart8986
    @mmahtnart8986 Год назад

    I replayed it several times, but I could hear/understand what you said about the seat height. I'm 6'4' so I'm always attentive to how tall you are which many of you reviewers ever state.

    • @Koukiworld
      @Koukiworld 11 месяцев назад

      you will fit and be able to move your seat back plenty of room 2x size of Ford Focus RS😄

  • @jeffleary1598
    @jeffleary1598 7 месяцев назад +1

    Just found this video..ty

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  7 месяцев назад +1

      Cheers! Be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out!

  • @bigbuckoramma
    @bigbuckoramma Год назад +1

    "Toyota will end up with the wrong drivers in the GR Corolla" - This has been my biggest complaint, and fear, with the current hot hatch market. It ensures that dealers hold onto inventory longer than they should, especially in this economy, and ensures that when they are bought, they arent being driven to be enjoyed. But are being horded by a bunch of Boomers as an investment opportunity.
    Eventually, people will stop buying these cars, because the dealers have marked them up too high, and in turn, the manufacturers will not see the point im making them any longer.
    At the end of the day, i have no one to blame for this but Honda. They screwed over the North American market with their USDM Civic Si trim level shenanigans, all so they could charge twice as much for the same Civic Si features in the Integra. And then, of course, they manipulated the Civic Type-R prices at the dealership level, gouging them even higher still. At the time I made a prediction, that if/when the Integra Type-R/S came out, it would start at the gouged CT-R price, and be gouged for even more. Sadly, i was right. And as a result of Honda of North America playing market manipulation games to squeeze out a little more money, it has caused Toyota dealers to say "me too", and add that $10-15k USD premium onto every GR Corolla. And that problem is creeping into other product lines, as you are starting to see even higher price gouging on the Manual Supra then the original, and even seeing proce hikes on the GT86 now, too. Mostly thr manuals. Where previously the GT86 sold at MSRP, and manuals could be had with some insensitives. Not anymore.
    The only upside to this, is that there are plenty of Hyundai dealers still selling Elantra N's and Kona N's at, or below, MSRP. And every track day i go to, i see more and more Hyundai's. What i dont see...is CT-R's, IT-S's, or GRC's. Sad.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +1

      Saw a GR Corolla at the track last week. Nice to see, but it was driven so badly that it was dangerous.

    • @bigbuckoramma
      @bigbuckoramma Год назад +1

      @@BrianMakse you've been around long enough to remember what track days were like when the WRX, and later the STi, were first released in North America. There was always that one person with the "I have AWD, I can do anything, I am Colin McRae!" mentality, and without fail, they ended up on a flatbed before the session was over.
      We started playing a $5 bet game in the pits every time the session was red flagged, called "WRX or Miata?". Team WRX won a LOT!

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +1

      @@bigbuckoramma I do remember that. These days, I see more supercars crashed more than anything.

  • @inthputtytang
    @inthputtytang 3 месяца назад +1

    Drove it Not worth the 47 they're asking horsepower isn't there

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  3 месяца назад

      Cheaper ways to get just horsepower. Every other car that can make you look like a hero like the GR does is much more expensive.

    • @CodeBonYT
      @CodeBonYT 2 месяца назад

      Expert mode plus sport mode is necessary to get all the power. Also not advised below 621 miles. Just got a premium for a little under $42k in heavy metal.

  • @KyleBlackwood-mo4qu
    @KyleBlackwood-mo4qu 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love mine

  • @melmorales7447
    @melmorales7447 Год назад

    Raycon everyday earbuds

  • @mmahtnart8986
    @mmahtnart8986 Год назад +1

    Opps! You people never state your height )-;

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад

      You people watch a single episode and complain about something I’ve stated in dozens of episodes. Congrats!

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 9 месяцев назад

    Talk about buyer's remorse..

  • @alengreen589
    @alengreen589 Год назад +1

    I like the Exterior design, looks like a Rally Car but the Interior is not my taste because it looks cheap and boring. Thanks for the video 😀.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +1

      Fair enough!

    • @mengx94
      @mengx94 Год назад

      I need my Louis Vuitton interior

    • @mark_845
      @mark_845 Год назад

      @@mengx94with my multi colored switching

    • @ericpelton4157
      @ericpelton4157 6 месяцев назад

      It’s basically just a Rally car. You’ve never owned something that’s built for just performance. Theres no luxury

  • @diallo1347
    @diallo1347 Год назад

    If you can find a GR Corrola Circuit Edition for only 50k then you're lucky. Most are selling for 70k used.

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 9 месяцев назад +1

    I will beat that thing with my Nissan JUKe!!! LMFAO.....

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  9 месяцев назад

      I love your unbridled optimism!

  • @BrianMakse
    @BrianMakse  Год назад +2

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  • @joek1353
    @joek1353 9 месяцев назад

    Betwen this and type r. Definitely way overpriced and known paint issues... Local dealers are now doing msrp on these except on the CE trim

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  8 месяцев назад

      We have this-or-that conversations over in the members section. Come join us!

  • @Gr4yota
    @Gr4yota Год назад

    I paid 46k for my curcuit lol

  • @Whatyouwantman
    @Whatyouwantman Год назад

    And a voided warranty if you take it out on…the track.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад

      Says who?

    • @jean-frederickjacques6780
      @jean-frederickjacques6780 8 месяцев назад

      not so true. as an auditor, what evidence do they(the dealership) have you were on a track? worn tires?

  • @nickcheema907
    @nickcheema907 Год назад

    If I was a dealer principal who invested millions of dollars into a dealership, I'd happily take top dollar for my inventory. I didn't say Toyota's inventory......my inventory. The market will dictate price in the end. As a consumer, I'm not pleased to see the ADM's etc but I can understand it. I'd do the same thing....the truth hurts.

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +2

      That all depends upon whether you want customers eight years down the road. Like everything, this market won’t last.

    • @jean-frederickjacques6780
      @jean-frederickjacques6780 8 месяцев назад

      @@BrianMakse short-sighted thinking

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 11 месяцев назад

    No way that car does better than 6 seconds 0_60 on it's best day 5.5 seconds.. No way is that car worth the money when there are Camaro's and Mustangs for the same price.. I would rather have a used 370Z for 15 to 20K..

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  11 месяцев назад

      One thing is that GR Corollas don’t crash after Cars and Coffee.

    • @marcasswellbmd6922
      @marcasswellbmd6922 9 месяцев назад

      @@BrianMakse Because they are slow... How could they crash?? You have to have something violently powerful and this isn't... They don't make power. Not real power ..

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@marcasswellbmd6922so those other cars make too much *real* power for *real* drivers to handle? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @CodeBonYT
      @CodeBonYT 2 месяца назад +1

      You can get 4.9 if you know how to drive it. I have in my premium.

  • @user-js2dr9gv1u
    @user-js2dr9gv1u 21 день назад

    A $50,000 car with a cheap interior.

  • @romererunamerika9437
    @romererunamerika9437 Год назад +1

    I want one is the pride colors to fit in American society?🌈

    • @BrianMakse
      @BrianMakse  Год назад +1

      Why won’t you wear the ribbon?