YES. I was a devout catholic all my life, grew up in a catholic family, catholic school etc., i was even opus dei, and all that jazz. i was so devoutly religious that i would do all the things catholics would do EVERYDAY FOR YEARS - rosary, mass, confession, etc. goes without saying, i was in search of God all throughout, but even with that, i still didn't know Him, for who He really is. I learned that what I know about Him is only from who people say He is, without knowing Him myself. God put me, and continue to put me through so much, that in those process I learned so much about Him, about who He is, and about what He wants. After years of searching for Him, He revealed Himself to me, and He pulled me out of the religious wheel. it is A VERY PAINFUL PROCESS, much so for me because I was very devout, but now, I can fully say I am now Christian. this promise is from God Himself - Jeremiah 29:13 "If you seek Me, you will find me, if you seek me with all your Heart." this promise is an answered prayer from God. So YES, even the most devout catholic can be BORN AGAIN. but it will be a painful process, but God said, THE REWARD IS HIS.
Brother I dont mean any harm to you when I say this. What would you say to a Catholic who actually same as you had the LORD revealed to him her through the catholic faith. Yes your path was your own ... and im happy for you but also realise.. its your path... God works and reveals to us in ways that are personal and for many of us thats Catholicism ... and beautiful . God Bless
@@richarddeerflameit could only make sense if that person was sent by God to save people from inside the catholic church. The vibes inside those churches feel so eerie and wicked I could not get inside again, some people have worse battles.
@@Oceantaikutsuu you need to come to my Catholic Church then ... not eerie... not wicked... but beautiful and all towards Christ and Love of community....
@@Oceantaikutsuu pleasure was just making a point brother . Our Catholic Christian church is not as you explained at all hence why I said what I said. Be well
It’s the Holy Spirit who draws people into an awareness of their need for redemption through the finished work of Christ, even if they attend a church that teaches bad theology (Catholic OR PROTESTANT). Nothing trumps the power of the Spirit.
And so powerful is the Spirit, that once He is in a new believer, He will mature that person, make him thirsty for Scripture, and, sooner or later, take him out of any sick and idolatrous church.
Kendall....God is not found in false and apostate churches! People need to hear the real gospel for the Holy Spirit to convict them...in false churches only false gospels are taught.
@@failam2918 actually if we look at the fact that God is Holy...He most certainly will not be in the churches of Satan where His gospel is perverted and heresies are taught!
The Council of Trent declared: “ . . . if they [men] were not born again in Christ, they would never be justified, since in that new birth there is bestowed upon them, through the merit of His passion, the grace by which they are made just . . He laid down the conditions of salvation thus: "He that believeth and is baptized," said the Son of the Living God, "shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be condemned" (Luke 16:16). Here, then, Our Blessed Lord laid down the two conditions of salvation: Faith and Baptism. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be condemned - or is damned Catholics not Born again Justin who died for his faith said in 151 A.D. “As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true . . . are brought by us where there is water and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God the Father . . . and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit [Matt. 28:19], they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said,‘Unless you are born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]” (First Apology 61). Around 190 A.D., Irenaeus, the bishop of Lyons, wrote, “And [Naaman] dipped himself . . . seven times in the Jordan’ [2 Kgs. 5:14]. It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [this served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old transgressions, being spiritually regenerated as newborn babes, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:5]” (Fragment 34). In the year 252 A.D., Cyprian, the bishop of Carthage, said that when those becoming Christians “receive also the baptism of the Church . . . then finally can they be fully sanctified and be the sons of God . . . since it is written, ‘Except a man be born again of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God’ [John 3:5]” (Letters 71[72]:1). Augustine wrote, “From the time he [Jesus] said, ‘Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:5], and again, ‘He that loses his life for my sake shall find it’ [Matt. 10:39], no one becomes a member of Christ except it be either by baptism in Christ or death for Christ” (On the Soul and Its Origin 1:10 [A.D. 419]). Augustine also taught, “It is this one Spirit who makes it possible for an infant to be regenerated . . . when that infant is brought to baptism; and it is through this one Spirit that the infant so presented is reborn. For it is not written, ‘Unless a man be born again by the will of his parents’ or ‘by the faith of those presenting him or ministering to him,’ but, ‘Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit’ [John 3:5]. The water, therefore, manifesting exteriorly the sacrament of grace, and the Spirit effecting interiorly the benefit of grace, both regenerate in one Christ that man who was generated in Adam” (Letters 98:2 [A.D. 408]). ONE LORD ONE FATIH ONE BAPTISM “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all” (Ephesians 4:4-6) The one baptism (and the only valid baptism), is the baptism of the one faith, the baptism authorized by the one Lord and practiced by the one body, the church of Christ. “For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body” (1 Corinthians 12:13). "Are you born again-the way the Bible understands that concept?" If the Evangelical has not been properly water baptized, he has not been born again "the Bible way," regardless of what he may think.The Born Again Movement traces its origin early in the 19th century.Born Again Movement arrived at our shores in the late 1930’s and gained its popularity in the 70’s and 80’s which is considered the golden era of Born Again Movement During these years membership in various Born Again Churches increased because they where able to infiltrate mainline Protestant Churches and had lured nominal Catholics into their fold.However their steady growth ceases starting the year 1990 and their membership declined in the succeeding years. In the year 2000 Born Again Churches from the United States sent their missionaries in the Philippines to re-established the Born Again Movement and this time their primary mission is no longer to infiltrate Protestant and Catholic Churches but targeted the youth in schools particularly college students.Born Again evangelist does not want to discuss the history of the Christian church, in their Bible studies with their prospects, they intentionally limit the discussion to the Bible alone. They conceal the history of the Christian religion because it will show that their movement did not originate from the apostles. It is necessary for them to negate history because St. Paul warned us not to accept teachings that did not originate from the apostles Gal.1:8 and Born Again Movement evidently cannot trace the history of their church into the time of the apostles.Clearly Born Again evangelization has deception as its chief foundation and they even used selected passages from the Bible to deceive people. They usually start evangelizing by asking ambiguous questions such as “Are you saved?” or “Are you born again?”, if the person answers “no or I don’t know” they will tell you that you must accept Christ as a Lord and Personal Savior in order to be born again otherwise you will be damned to hell. And if the person will answer “yes” they will invite you to their church and worship with them. And if the person is a Catholic that would mean that you have to leave the Catholic Church and do away your Catholic beliefs about Mary, the Saints, confession etc. Let us be vigilant not to fall to the snares of the Born Again movement.
I’d be more interested if you write Rebuttals to Pastor John Piper’s points. Since you didn’t, all you said has nothing, no value. Long paragraph that doesn’t even drive a point. Being a former Catholic, now a Christian, I am not sold to what you said. Transubstantiation alone was a grave point by Pastor John Piper.
The thief on the cross beside Jesus was a bad bad bad man all his life, all he did was speak from his heart to Christ and the other thief and who ever else was listening....you know the rest of that story. Before he said who Jesus was, 99% would say he was heading for hell. On the other hand, when Peter cursed and said he didn't know Jesus, another 99% would say the same for him. What I'm saying you have already guessed......Christ has the last say. For me I think there is corruption in many churches, and faulty teaching......I judge those church systems, but not the peoples hearts .....after all Christ said we don't know our own heart much less the next person. I can tell you one thing for sure my knees are bloody from stumbling.....and I will keep getting up and walking, only because I have JESUS. Bless each one of you.
That thing is true, but (the man beside Jesus in the cross) he is saved because he fully trusted his all to Jesus. Many of our Catholic friends trust more to their dead saints, Mary, traditions, purgatory, the sheer collectivity of their members, and even the pope. Many doesn't really trust Jesus as their savior, but if some does, then it's good. But before you conclude, it's still not genuine, for they mix Jesus with their religion, to be saved we must ONLY believe the true Son of God and not our religion.
@Asaph Vapor I'm really sorry for Catholics, but Proverbs says we care more when we rebuke, we love more when we have the courage to give advice and guidance from the word of God. I'm so frustrated at how many people are dragged into this "church" and its lies. I felt the will to comment on this matter. It's like welcoming everybody even satanists to the true church of Christ. It'll be confusing if we say things like Catholics are also saved. If they know that we preached like that they'll never come out from that religion. We can say we can't judge their souls, but we can't more sure that they will inherit the kingdom of God by partaking in the lies.
I was a devout catholic for 35 years. Then I was born again and I’m now a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. Unless we’re born again we will not see the kingdom or enter the kingdom of God. The Catholics and Protestants need to be born again. No Protestant nor Catholic will be see heaven unless they call on the name of the Lord Jesus Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven and have eternal life with Jesus forevermore
If you ever were a Catholic you were born again !! John 3 ""Jesus said ; you must be born again in water and the Holy Spirit ' " One of the bible verses that confirm Catholic Baptism ... Catholicism does not depend on scripture but is more in turn with scripture than any of the 30 000 protestant versions !!
@@1234poppycat i was infant baptised according to orthodox traditions. One can argue that this is the true church and not Roman Catholic Even though i was baptised by water i was not saved nor i knew Jesus. Only when we are baptised by the Holy Spirit and are Baptised into Jesus we are saved Read the scripture THe fact that you insist on these non biblical doctrines just shows that you are not saved because if you would be you would have known where is the truth and what the bible is teaching is actually still here among us
@@felixnascimento7045 The fact that you insist on bible alone when the Bible does not point to that shows your understanding is poor ... Of course you thinking you are saved is delusional -- God decides on judgement day.
@@1234poppycat since I made this comment and now that I have read and saw other perspective I can see how I came across aggressive on my previous statement, I apologies for whoever I have offended and my impatience. I don’t fully know how god works because if we go to scripture we can find arguments for both sides. If I look at my personal experience and how I was saved then I am more convinced that you have to be a believer to receive the Holy Spirit. I am still searching for the answer. God bless you.
If you are Roman catholic, eastern orthodox, and or Protestant, if you trust and put your faith in what Christ did on the cross for you and believe upon him for salvation you will be saved Acts 16:31 Believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ and you and your house will be saved
And Jesus is a more trustworthy God than Pastor John. John is leading you all astray, and like sheep, you all want to follow him, no matter where he leads you. It makes sense that he tells you to follow a Rabbi and the Law, rather than the views of the disciples in Acts 15, without realizing that in every session, he is being asked to compile his own Tables of the Law. God gave you brains, so use them!
@@douglaidlaw740 I don't understand why you replied like this, you seem angry. People will follow who they follow, John can be a helpful resource but Truth comes from the Word of God.
@@johnsteila6049 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." The Word of God coincidently, comes from God the Holy Spirit. That's why it's not called The Word of Church.
What I would say to all Catholics AND Protestants (including myself) is...JESUS IS ENOUGH AND MORE THAN ENOUGH. He is everything! Stop adding to Him! When we are judged, He is all we will have to stand on. Our righteousness will be EVIDENCE of our standing on Him, not the means to our salvation. Trust me, we Protestants also have bad habits of resting and trusting in our good deeds too. Glorify God with the good deeds that He gave us to do, but only after salvation in Jesus, based on God’s working alone, do these come.
Ben you have fallen prey to the Propaganda that anyone who shows the false doctrine of Catholicism and it’s dangers of how God cannot use Catholics to spread His Truth does not understand what it means to be Born From Above..We in this day and age are not Protestants from the Reformation and We testify of our repentance of Sin and accept the provision of Salvation surrendering our Will To Gods Will just as Jesus surrendered His Will to the Father..We who do this receive the Holy Spirit who does not allow any to remain in lies and state that we can ignore them and follow Jesus..Jesus told Pontius Pilate My kingdom is not of this world and if it were then those who follow me would fight for me..Jesus told Pontius Pilate I came to show truth and those who follow truth follow me ..To remain in the Roman State religion that is manufactured by satan and even Hitler learned His Replacement theology from both Rome and Martin Luther an X Catholic Monk who did not understand the Covenant God has with the Jews..Pope Francis right now is declaring his allegiance to Palestine not Israel and the Eschatology of the Scriptures..Latinos are easily manipulated to not learn English the Universal language and Mexico that is an occult country and drug lordship government follow the teachings of Necromancy that opens the door to the occult and doctrines of demons.there is Santeria and much demonic activity and Occultist from Europe who have come to South America including the Nazis who retired in South America..We cannot step in front of Our Righteous God who judges all evil upon the face of the earth ..All Catholics need to leave the whore that sits on many waters ..and follows THAT OF WHICH IS GIVEN BY MAN RATHER THAN WHAT GOD HAS WRITTEN..HERE IS HOW WONDERFUL THE WORD OF GOD IS TELLING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING AND YES THE BIBLE IS A SCIENCE BOOK ALSO...ALL WISDOM COMES FROM THE WORD OF GOD TO EVERY GENERATION WATCH THE VIDEO I’VE POSTED..ruclips.net/video/bRfZ68LgcO0/видео.html
JesusChristisTruth You don’t need to tell me It’s Jesus that Saved me. At the Bema seat Judgement I know our works don’t stand up. You do understand the Bema seat Judgement don’t you. I know what God means when He says you must be Born from above. Called and Chosen.
Again you say the same thing and I don’t need you to tell me about Justification..I am Called, Sanctified, Justified and will be given my heavenly Body in Heaven...as God says I am then Glorified in His Kingdom by Jesus welcoming me into His eternal sinless eternal dwelling..So I don’t know how you came to the conclusion that I believe Jesus plus works...I renounced the religion I was raised in which is Catholicism that teaches by the precepts and traditions of their clergy that is not Biblical to perform works ....to be pleasing to God...I am Obedient to God and don’t need you to explain the Grace and Mercy of Jesus Christ and His Word Tetelestai in which He has paid in full for my Salvation and all who the Father Gives to the Son do receive the Spirit that leads me to Gods Truth..do me a favor Jesus Christ Truth ...don’t post lies about me here...I never claimed to say anything about works that are done by us ..I told you about the Working of the Spirit through us that does not render Salvation but renders God using us to take His Truth to he Lost...Your debate with me is mute and again...Please just shut up.....You don’t know what your saying about my belief...I came out of Catholicism because God led me out.I can probably teach you more about the Word of God than you can with me...I have no respect for your comment and it is just plain ignorant..Go find someone who doesn’t know the True meaning of Grace ..Show me where I said we are Justified by our Works...Show me ...show the comment..
I don’t call myself a Protestant nor do I trust that what I do that is not by the Spirit will shown to me by God at my Bema seat Judgement..Catholics con’t even know what that is because the ones who Receive the Spirit leave the Gentile clergy behind realizing what they teach and their doctrine is not Biblical and contradicts the Word of God...there is only one way to fix it..and that is the to denounce the lies they have taught...ruclips.net/video/fnrxb1zAvWw/видео.html
I was raised Lutheran in a major city where the largest majority are Roman Catholics. Through a series of events I was saved on March 11, 1979 . At the time my then wife was going to a Southern Baptist Church. It was there that I was born again. We attended 2 smaller SBC churches. In 1982 we were divorced after 9 years of marriage at her choosing, not mine. A short time later I was offered a job opportunity in Central Florida and although I had begun to see someone else, I relocated to Florida alone. I began attending a large SBC church here where I have been a member for 41 years. I have sung in that churches choir for the last 20 years. During that time I have met several people who were former Roman Catholics who were/ are saved and changed from Catholism to Protestant. As far as I know these people successfully made a transition. One person comes to mind who is now deceased and I am confident that I will see him in heaven. However, I do not believe that once a person is saved that he can remain a Catholic or else he or she will be inherently discontent. I do not believe that Catholic doctrine and teachings will permit that person to remain in what I believe is a church denomination that is inconsistent with true biblical teaching. The Spirit of God will prompt that person to seek out a church that parallels true Christianity
Thank you for your testimony brother. That last statement is deeply true. If we are saved The Holy Spirit will guide us to truth no matter our circumstances. He can and will use broken people, broken churches, broken docturine, even broken translations, and guide our hearts and minds to his truth we see outlined his scriptures.
I was a Catholic, 40+ years, school, sunday school, confirmation the lot... but as a child i always thought; Jesus was a teacher. The priest repreaents jesus. Why doesn't he teach me anything? Since i felt the call of the holy spirit a year ago, i started reading the bible... and my fears were confirmed. Id been led astray! Id always believed in the church, and that i was a good Christian... i prayed to and revered the blessed virgin... then i actually read the bible, and the scales were lifted from my eyes.
*All the Kings and Queens in the line of King David in the tribe of Judah were Mother and Son and her Royal Role was to interceed for the Kings people and that's why Mary comes in apparitions*
The Catholic church has suffered persecution . First the Pagan Roman Empire wanted to destroy it, they failed,then Muhammad started Islam to fight the Catholic church, he failed, then the Reformation of Martin Luther tried ,it failed ,then communism tried and failed , then came free Manson's, they have failed , now the church faces the enemy priest within , he will fail, the church is suffering insults and , mockery from Satanists and those who call themselves Christians "protestants " , as we can see the devil has been changing style to try and destroy the Catholic church for 2000yrs , so if you call.yourself Christian and fight the Catholic church ask yourself if your beliefs were here when muhamad wrote the Qur'an to fight the Catholic church in 600AD, it is clear all protestants were not here but the only church the devil came against was qqThe Catholic church.Chose your side to be for Christ and his Catholic church or join the devil in his battle against the Catholic church. All anti Catholic church (RCC) originate from the devil himself whether you call yourself Christian or Moslem, Satanist, communist etc , your the same and children of your father the devil who seeks to destroy the Catholic church but this is what is true, the church is protected by the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and the gates of hell will not destroy it, after all of you have failed the Christ shall be triumphant and his church shall shine.I pray for you.
Who has a personal relationship with Christ than a Catholic who eats the body and drinks the blood of Christ in the Eucharist daily. Every protestant thinks they are the true believers yet they are divided like the Kingdom of satan himself.
@@balukuroben7458 *Wow what an essay. Except those persecuted in early Church was Christians. Not catholics. BIBLE says so. Acts 11:26. Roman Church was founded in AD380. Not AD33.* YOU: The Catholic church has suffered persecution . First the Pagan Roman Empire wanted to destroy it, they failed,then Muhammad started Islam to fight the Catholic church, he failed, then the Reformation of Martin Luther tried ,it failed ,then communism tried and failed , then came free Manson's, they have failed , now the church faces the enemy priest within , he will fail, the church is suffering insults and , mockery from Satanists and those who call themselves Christians "protestants " , as we can see the devil has been changing style to try and destroy the Catholic church for 2000yrs , so if you call.yourself Christian and fight the Catholic church ask yourself if your beliefs were here when muhamad wrote the Qur'an to fight the Catholic church in 600AD, it is clear all protestants were not here but the only church the devil came against was qqThe Catholic church.Chose your side to be for Christ and his Catholic church or join the devil in his battle against the Catholic church. All anti Catholic church (RCC) originate from the devil himself whether you call yourself Christian or Moslem, Satanist, communist etc , your the same and children of your father the devil who seeks to destroy the Catholic church but this is what is true, the church is protected by the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and the gates of hell will not destroy it, after all of you have failed the Christ shall be triumphant and his church shall shine.I pray for you.
I have a Catholic teacher and I can see fruit in her life. It’s mind boggling because for most of my life, I’ve battled with the question “can a Catholic be truly saved?” We do prayer in class everyday and she’s genuinely seeking the Lord. She talks about it all the time. One time I came to her after class and asked her if she was saved, and she said yes and she understood salvation and started telling me how she got saved. I think God put her in my life to tell me that Catholics, though they do have false doctrine, can be born again. It’s all about JESUS, and I see JESUS shining in her life everytime she teaches. God spoke to me by bringing her into my life. Brother and sisters, let us pray for all Catholics that they may come to Jesus. That’s all that matters
Patrick Agustin : we catholics are Christians and already know Jesus Christ, I think you need to pray for people who don't know Jesus at all. Lord God bless you
There are few more confusing topics than salvation. It goes beyond the standard question posed by Fundamentalists: "Have you been saved?" What the question also means is: "Don’t you wish you had the assurance of salvation?" Evangelicals and Fundamentalists think they do have such an absolute assurance. Scripture teaches that one’s final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell. For many Fundamentalists and Evangelicals it makes no difference-as far as salvation is concerned-how you live or end your life. You can heed the altar call at church, announce that you’ve accepted Jesus as your personal Savior, and, so long as you really believe it, you’re set. Certainly, Christ did die on the cross once for all and has entered into the holy place in heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Christ has abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born "saved," with no need to be born again. Since we were not, since it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a time at which we come to be reconciled to God. And if so, then we, like Adam and Eve, can become unreconciled with God and, like the prodigal son, need to come back and be reconciled again with God, after having left his family. Regarding the issue of whether Christians have an "absolute" assurance of salvation, regardless of their actions, consider this warning Paul gave: "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb. 10:26-29, 2 Pet. 2:20-21). Related to the issue of whether one can lose one’s salvation is the question of whether one can know with complete certainty that one is in a state of salvation. Even if one could not lose one’s salvation, one still might not be sure whether one ever had salvation. Similarly, even if one could be sure that one is now in a state of salvation, one might be able to fall from grace in the future. The "knowability" of salvation is a different question than the "loseability" of salvation. Places where Scripture speaks of our ability to know that we are abiding in grace are important and must be taken seriously. But they do not promise that we will be protected from self-deception on this matter. There are many saintly men and women who have long lived the Christian life and whose characters are marked with profound spiritual joy and peace. Such individuals can look forward with confidence to their reception in heaven. Such an individual was Paul, writing at the end of his life, "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that Day" (2 Tim. 4:7-8). But earlier in life, even Paul did not claim an infallible assurance, either of his present justification or of his remaining in grace in the future. Concerning his present state, he wrote, "I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby justified [Gk., dedikaiomai]. It is the Lord who judges me" (1 Cor. 4:4). Concerning his remaining life, Paul was frank in admitting that even he could fall away: "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27). Of course, for a spiritual giant such as Paul, it would be quite unexpected and out of character for him to fall from God’s grace. Nevertheless, he points out that, however much confidence in his own salvation he may be warranted in feeling, even he cannot be infallibly sure either of his own present state or of his future course. "Are you saved?" asks the Fundamentalist. The Catholic should reply: "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5-8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9-10, 1 Cor. 3:12-15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11-13)." The same is true of us.
Thalia Rose, we need to know the truth about Jesus Christ by reading a good official Bible translation. We (all of us here on earth) need to read and study the Bible for ourselves, and think for ourselves about what we read -- then we won't be so easily misled by false teachers and false prophets. It's a matter of (eternal) life or death. There are many, many Christian cults in this world, with money-hungry preachers who prey on their followers and mislead them, subtly introducing heretical doctrines. We are warned about such false teachers and false prophets several times in the Bible. The Roman Catholic Church has a number of unbiblical beliefs and customs.
Speaking as an ex roman catholic and now saved by the grace of God you cannot be saved and remain in the roman catholic church. How can you worship Mary like i did and pray to her and be saved.
As a former devoted catholic, I used to attend the mass 5 times a week, pray the rosary daily, a leader of a Catholic group/movement on my campus, and I was visiting the seminary to become a priest! I once was questioned, If I am to die at this moment, where would I open my eyes afterwards, although I was a devoted catholic, I didn't have an answer, the person questioning me, opened the Bible at first John chapter 5, and as he read I was amazed, the passage actually speaks about the true believer of a Jesus and his assurance of a heaven with Christ, and if he doesn't say he has heaven for sure, he's explicitly saying that God is a liar! After this encounter, I decided to study my bible daily, although I was a Catholic who reads his bible(which is very rare here in my country), and after a year of studying my Bible i saw how much the Catholic church is far from the Bible. If you are a Catholic reading this I would suggest to you to search the following topics: -The authority of scripture -Justification and salvation: this is one of the most important one, how am I to be reconciled with God according to the Bible!? What must I do to be saved!? -The mass and transubstantiation (Emphasis on Hebrews 10,the "lost" book in Catholicism) -The role of saints in The Bible -The role of virgin Mary in The Bible -Purgatory and the Bible -The pope :Is he biblical, is he even in the first church!? -The first church and the history of the Catholic church, did it really start with Jesus or with Constantine centuries later!? -The apocryphal books, why did they first show in mid 15th century? -Baptism, Is it for the babies, does it have to do anything with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit!? -The sacred mysteries and the Bible: why in a time of history they were 12 and 9 and 5 and now they stand at 7? Is the sacred mystery of confession biblical!? "The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth." Psalms 145:18 God bless you all! MUCH LOVE!
Johnny G // I would love to address everything that you’ve mentioned, but I would like for you to look into whether Constantine really is the source of the Catholic doctrines, or whether they were in the Church before him or in spite of him. I want you to look into the Persian Church and the Mar Thoma Christians from India who though never under Roman rule, maintained the Doctrines which many would consider un-Christian, but which have always been held by the Catholic Church everywhere and at all times, even by the beloved Augustine. Also, simply look to Armenia, and Greece, and Ethiopia, and everywhere the Apostles and those they shared the Gospel with were, and find Churches which hold to these Catholic beliefs where they left off. Either the Catholic Church is the greatest conspiracy that ever was, between all the places in the world where the early Church was, without any record of “Great Apostasy”, or they’re right. There really is no in-between.
Ronie Jay Rondina // Here’s the thing. Faithful Catholics agree with you that Christianity is about relationship. That’s exactly why the Eucharist is compared to the Marriage Embrace. But on us being supposedly anti-religion because we’re Christian, read the following Scripture from James: “Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their affliction and to keep oneself unstained by the world.” (James 1:27 NABRE) The Scripture doesn’t condemn religion, it teaches pure and undefiled religion *in* and *from* relationship with God.
Alexander keep up the good work!!!!!! It is sad that Catholics like Johny G get caught off guard with those tactics and loose their Faith. The worst part is that Protestants don't really get the promised assurance. Quite a few (like my "Born Again" co-worker) will always wonder "was I truly 'Born Again.' " This will always be the case since the common Protestant understanding of James' Epistle is that this NT Book was written to show that that there are many who have a "false" faith. A former Protestant once put it this way, "Christians have 100% assurance that they are saved and I MAY be one of them." This Protestant never found the promised assurance and was quite troubled by that until he came home to the Catholic Church. Your brother in Christ, H S
My former Catholic brother. It shows just how weak you are! Or maybe, just maybe you were never meant to be a Catholic. As you quote the Bible so well, why do you hop, skip and jump relevant passages? Read Jn 6:64-66. Very pertinent to you. Also read 1 Tim 3:15 how many deniminations were there in St Paul's time? Which church was he addressing? What was the meaning of "church" in early christianity. You are nothing but flawed. You went for daily mass, not out of commitment but ritualism. Yes, many Catholics do just that! Why? They still want to be fed milk instead of meat. Read up or follow Dr Scott Hahn on RUclips. A great man of God bent upon discrediting the Catholic Church till one day his eyes of faith was opened to the truth AND HE BECAME Catholic. There are many highly intellectual persons of other denominations who have become Catholic. Why? Because they WERE SEARCHING FOR the Truth. And here you are, like Esau trading your birthright for what?? The only way out is repent to make a comeback. Are you keeping the Commandments of Jesus- Jn 14:15? By disobeying and leaving the Church. You know FULL WELL your bible, it is written Judas left "the Brotherhood" of Light and went into the "Darkness". Jesus, my friend, KNOWS His OWN, they KNOW His Voice and FOLLOW Him.
I wonder why a born again Christian would stay in the Catholic church with their false teachings. That doesn't make sense. If anything the holy spirit will call them from all things false, including Catholicism. This happened to me. Once your eyes are open, you can't ignore the false around you.
Christine Becerra, LMHC Revelation 18 actually talks about coming out of “Babylon”. And many say it is actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church like you said.
Jrod ProductionStudios Funny enough, this past year my mother invited me to a Catholic retreat. I went to bond with her and asked God for guidance because my heart was troubled. Later that night I had a dream with God saying to "Come out of Babylon!" "Come out of her now." It was amazing!
Christine Becerra, LMHC wow that’s a truly amazing story! Thanks for sharing! I used to (and still do) study for most my free time since becoming a Christian a few years ago. Early on some of my biggest challenges were Catholic doctrines. One night I was up till around 2 am. Having studied in my room for 5 1/2 hours that night, I was very troubled about the doctrine of the Eucharist. That night I had a dream, which I know was from God, which I still remember every detail of today. What I saw in the dream to my surprise I later found biblical support for, and since then, have been doctrinally sound. God can truly work in marvelous ways.
Christine Becerra, LMHC haha hopefully I don’t type too much here but this is what I saw. It started out a normal church service. I was sitting in the middle. It was a new church I had not attended, I was away from home. My dream started at the end of the service. (Mass). Everything started to wrap up, and as I looked around I noticed something I hadn’t before. The building was beautiful, grand, huge. Then the Pastor said it was time to start handing out communion. Everything was normal, and I got a little piece of the bread in my hand as it was passed out to me. Just then the pastor said “and we know that this is the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. There are some in the world who deny this, who will spend a great long time suffering in the afterlife.” I still remember those words to this day. Just then I knew something was wrong. This wasn’t the Church I knew. It seemed to have changed throughout the very service. All of the sudden the Eucharist, bread became sticky. But looked good to eat. It stuck harder and harder to my hand, but looked even better and better to eat. I refused it, and put it down, knowing that this congregation taught that it was the actual body and blood, and essentially “worshipped it.” I then looked up and noticed the church was black. Literally. Everything was dark. The service itself took place in the middle of the night, there was no electricity in the building, only dimly lit candles in the window sills. The Pastor himself (Priest) I now noticed was also wearing black. And the congregation seemed the have been sunk back into the shadow of darkness. There was no real light given off at all. It was an eerie feeling. I all of the sudden felt a call, to flee from that church. I slowly got up, and started for the only light I saw, at the back of the church, I felt as if it was calling me. Just then, several others got up. One by one, the very few of us left, and followed the light. I remember just walking outside into the night with this light and the fellow believers and then I woke up. To me the dream signified many things. The service of the church was the entire church history. And it once started out right but fell away. It took false doctrines to finally awaken me, such as the Eucharist being the actual body. The whole time I was asleep figuratively, unaware of what was happening in the church. To me the few leaving was the Protestant reformation, following only the light who was Christ. And not he authority of the church. Most of the dream seemed to be centered around communion, the doctrine that I was struggling with. I believe this is because that is probably the most fundamental doctrine to all Catholics. Overcoming that doctrine helped me see the true light. I was appalled from the dream, but found comfort in the scriptures as I read them the following weeks, which almost seemed to outline my exact thoughts throughout the dream. I could tell God was telling me something. Sorry I typed so much. God bless :)
@WC3isBetterThanReforged *People who read the Bible would know Roman religion has nothing to do with God and His Words. Roman religion contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!* 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the physical blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18. 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”. 11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10. 13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
yes The context on this passage is that Jews did not support the idea that they were not the chosen one and Paul makes it clear that not everyone from Israel belong to israel and that the tru descendants of Abraham are not the jews but people who are by faith in Christ 30What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; 31but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. 32Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. this is the decision God made to include the Gentiles into the tree as new branches
No, no, no...let’s be clear about what Christ are we talking about. The Jesus in the Quran? The Jesus in the New Age movement? The Jesus in the Council of Trent? The Jesus who failed at the cross according to Pope Francis? Or the Biblical Jesus? I’m sorry, but once I read the Bible by myself looking for the Way to be saved, all the Roman Catholic doctrine was destroyed in a second. 45 years against one page in the gospel of John and one verse in the book of Romans and that was it. When thousands of Roman Catholics accept the biblical truth about the substitutionary atonement they quit the Roman Catholic Church the same day. In other words, once they fully accept the righteousness of Christ they leave behind the self righteousness doctrine in a blink of an eye. Why? Because they can see for the first time the Grace of God and the immensity of the work of Jesus at the cross. Because they can experience for the first time the meaning of being born again and how the Holy Spirit change their lives completely to serve only One Name: The Name above all names; the Name of the Lion of the Tribe of Judah; King of kings and Lord of lords; the Name of Jesus Christ. The Jesus of the Bible. The Word of God. The Way, the Truth and the Life. Our Lord and my Savior & the Glory of God.
Pope Francis did not say Jesus failed at the cross. Francis said that in the eyes of the world Jesus failed at the cross. "We would believe in him only if he would come down from that cross," said the Pharisees.
It doesn't matter what you believe - Jesus will judge you on whether you followed His church, or protested against it. Let me illustrate this... to what church do you belong and when was it started?
Okay, my friend so if this saved Catholic asked you show me the Bible believing church because I want to leave the Catholic church ,which church would you show this Catholic Christian ?
@@johnbrowne3950 Out of the many 30,000+ Christian sects which criteria do you use to chose" yr own & the fundamentalist Baptist " who started yr own denomination ,in which year ?who started the fundamentalist Baptist church and when? Have you bothered to ask why you chose these two?
@@balukuroben7458 The Baptist Church was born out of adversity and persecution, mostly by the RCC. The origin of our church is Jesus Christ and the Word of God (the Bible.) Our church is based on belief in Jesus Christ, God the Father and the Holy Spirit and the Word of God only. We believe only believers were to be baptized by immersion and therefore reject infant baptism. We believe salvation is a gift by the grace of God and that our justification is by faith alone and that all who are saved are eternally secure. We believe that a church is a local assembly of saved, immersed believers called out from the world by our Lord Jesus Christ and separated unto Him. We believe the Bible alone, all 66 books, is our only authority for our faith and practices. We believe in the priesthood of all believers who have the right and the access to come to the throne of grace. We believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, His virgin birth, sinless life and substitutionary death, bodily ressurection, assension to heaven and His personal, visible return. We believe in the Holy Spirit who convicts us of sin; who regenerates, sanctifies and comforts those who believe in Jesus Christ. Baptists reject salvation by works and the re-sacrificing of Jesus Christ and therefore the RC Mass is blasphemous. There is no such place as Purgatory, only Heaven and Hell and Jesus Christ, not a pope, is the head of the church. Baptists believe there is only one mediator between God and Man, the man Christ Jesus. All of these beliefs are in the Bible and I will list them if you wish.
@JustAskingQuestions8571 *"Fall away" does not prove "losing salvation". I am sure you know the difference. Israel fell away. But Bible says Israel will be saved. Zec **11:28**, Romans 11:26.* *This is not the strongest argument for Roman Catholic Church. Why? In history, Roman religion was called Church of Rome. It was merely a local church in it's previous form. Not the Universal Church/Church which it loves to claim. Bible defines Church as "all local churches + all believers". Why would a local church called Church of Rome be the Church?* *As for authority, Bible says even Church relies on Scriptures as the final authority. Jesus and APostles, even NT Church took doctrines from Scriptures only and not from any other source. There are 180+ verses that showed that.* you said Very comforting. The only issue is, what if once saved always saved isn't true? I think the Bible is clear that you can "fall away" even if you've sincerely professed faith, and Hebrews Chapter 6, in fact, even suggests that we may never be able to be saved again if we truly fall aw you said Who has the authority I can rely on to tell me for sure if I am allowed to remarry? And wouldn't it make sense that Jesus wanted us to have an institutional body here on earth to adjudicate cases like mine so that people like me can have peace of mind about whether they are allowed to remarry and if their remarriages are valid or are adulterous? This, I think, is the strongest argument for the Catholic Church. Christianity in practice seems unworkable unless there is a valid authority here on earth that isn't biased in favor of our own interests and that can help us live out the commands of scripture in a Godly way.
I was Catholic for 30 yrs. got Saved, born again, stay Catholic for about 3 months. Now in a Bible-believing church. Catholic is a very carnal church when you take away daily Bible teaching, you make things up. The Word is used for training/ correction in righteousness, rebuke, instruction. Take that away what do you have? Studying the word gives me confidence in what I believe.
If you were Catholic, you'd know that in a three year cycle, you have read the entire Bible during the Mass, right? Homilies are most always written to clarify the Bible readings of the day. And you also would know that Catholics do not 'make things up". They are teaching from the original Bible that was canonized before Luther and King James decided to do re-writes and edits. LOL.
Because of my parents deep love for our Lord and faith, it definitely helped me to be compassionate and observant. I was 8 years old when I asked Jesus to come into my life. It's funny because I was watching Jim and Tammy Baker of all people talking about salvation! I wanted to experience what they said would happen to me. I was older mentally for my age, I guess growing up as an only child and reading I just understood this was something that I truly wanted. My grandmother was living with us and she was pentecostal, I went to church with her twice. It was kind of scary but interesting. Well, I did the sinners prayer and I remained in a state of prayer all day before I went to bed, I prayed one more time. That night I dreamed and lightning struck in front of me and the holy spirit filled me and I heard the voice of God. I saw the bright light people have spoken of in near death experiences and while God spoke to me, his voice vibrated off of my chest his voice sounded like oceans, a lion speaking his voice was ancient I shared the dream with my parents and they did not believe me, my grandmother was gone so I couldn't tell her.i was so depressed and for years I had an up and down relationship with God. I finally left the Catholic church for various reasons. I have no doubt my parents know the Lord and accepted him as thier savior. Mom spoke of an experience that happened to her at a retreat. My relationship with Jesus is ongoing and stronger than ever but I have a long road ahead. Please pray for me so that God will complete his work with me.
We all need to repent and be born again in Jesus name the name above every other name for the remission of our sins jesus himself said unless were born again we wont enter into the kingdom. Only trust in Jesus for your salvation. But if you love him you will do it and if you love him you will work for him. He really does love us more than we even know. He's Coming back soon!! Time is almost up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pray to be pleasing to God in all your ways. Seek God in ALL your ways and he WILL direct your path. God does not lie
@@browncony3897 I have been reading my new Bible from the beginning, I have never read it all the way through. It's incredible the affect it has had on me. I find myself looking at how he spoke to others and how they describe him. To hear his voice was something I will never forget. I remember saying to myself, "he is ancient." Later on I heard him referred to as the Ancient of Days. For the rest of my life I never saw things the same way. I feel and see things almost like superman vision, I feel the core of everything, every living thing. I'm always crying when I pray because I cannot contain my emotions. I can also see when someone has a demon oppressing them. When I fell away from God I felt like death. I'm much closer to God than I have ever been and reaching out to others. I do need prayers for God to keep me on the good path and give others Hope, that's what he wanted me to do.
Cony I have experienced that and I am a devote Catholic, please don't assume that and lead others assure. This dividing of the church is what divides people from God
@no_prisoners6474 *Bible teaches "believe in Jesus to be saved", John 3:16. Please start by reading Scriptures. Not believing in "everything Roman priests claim". You feeling sad has nothing to do with me. It has to do with you not reading Scriptures for the truth. Bible says God's Word is truth. Jn **17:17**.* Act 16:30 And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Act 16:31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
Have you heard the common joke in Italy that only Italians could have taken the teachings of Christ and the Apostles and turned it into the RCC (a religion that the Early Church would have found unrecognizable). No other Europeans would have been so freely "creative" or "imaginative". Even the Italians know that Romanism is not Christianity.
Correct Bro . They are the real ones that contradict to each other they cannot show consistent belief system and untenable to defend they are more ignorant in interpreting the scripture fully ,in short they are false born again.
The Roman Catholic denomination is not the same as Catholic Church. All born again believers regardless of denomination are Catholics. Not all Catholics in a denominational sense are born again let alone have a relationship with Christ. They tend to put their identity in their denomination rather than Christ. They are notorious for this.
The Catholics were the first Christians in unity with the Petrine Primacy and I identify with both Christ and His Church. I'm also born again the biblical way; by water and Spirit which is baptism. If you are not in unity with the Bishop of Rome, then you are not Catholic.
@@GR65330 *Yes only unlearned Romanists who do not read the BIBLE say these. There is not word "catholic" in the BIBLE. So how can Catholics be the first believers? All false claims. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish and Christian. Acts 11:26, Acts 2. Not roman, not catholic.* YOU: The Catholics were the first Christians
@@GR65330 *Except again only unlearned Romanists who do not read the BIBLE say these. BIBLE does not say we need to unite with "Petrine Primacy or Roman church". All false claims. BIBLE says believers only need to agree with GOD and HIS WORD. BIBLE did not say "Roman Church = the Church Christ founded". All false claims. Wake up Romanists who are deceived!* YOU: in unity with the Petrine Primacy and I identify with both Christ and His Church.
@@GR65330 *Who wants to be in the Apostate Church anyway? BIBLE speaks of Roman cult in Rev 17-18 as the APostate Church to be destroyed in the Last Days.* YOU: If you are not in unity with the Bishop of Rome, then you are not Catholic.
@LorenzoMasterConnector *You must be from another false church to say that. 95% of RC doctrines did not even come from Scriptures. Do you even read the Bible to say that?* 1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary, veneration of saints and statues, celibacy of priesthood, canonization of saints, limbo, submit to roman pope to be saved, devote to roman Mary to be saved, be in, Roman religion to be saved, baptise in Roman baptism to be saved partake Roman sacraments to be saved, baptism of blood , calling Roman pope Lord God or equal to God you said Catholic Churches are biblical. Everything they do and day is found in the Bible
I personally raised a catholic, was stricken in my heart and saved after going to a Good Friday service. The Lord uses many opportunities to reach his people.
Walking with the Lord is more than a good friday mass..God did not give us the Mass Rome has..Rome also gave the World the Gregorian Calendar and the Pseudo Science you are taught in school...They have also taught Theistic evolution that ignores the Book of Genesis...Cheick out your clergy and how many crimes against humanity they have committed and hidden....here is a history of your Papacy also...ruclips.net/video/fnrxb1zAvWw/видео.html
L L there is a weird thing going on with this heart metaphor. A true conversation is when you learn the truth. Gods word says it is the Truth that sets you free. The Roman state religion has killed and hidden criminals for 1700 years. What Catholicism has taught you is all lies. Good Friday was not when Jesus died on the Cross and He did not Rise on Sunday. The Bible teaches us that Gods calendar from the beginning of time is from Sundown to Sundown. Jesus was put on the cross on Thursday morning and was risen by Midnight on Saturday. He was first seen By Mary Magdalene on the first workday of the week we now call Sunday morning.
German Giant I agree.I don’t just celebrate it. I share with the lost and especially those who claim Jesus is a myth. The Bible is proven to be supernaturally Penned by God. God breathed. We who are born from above are Justified by faith. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
Dennis Campeau I’m not a Protestant. God judges all. God would never Send any to conquer land and torture any that disagreed with False doctrine. You don’t know the religion in which you were raised.. your Roman state religion is still guilty of hiding criminals to this very day. You know very little of when the papacy actually began. If Peter was the first Pope the why was their 100’s of years before Rome instated their first Pope. Jesus call Simon a small stone that is what Petros means.
One problem here then is if we apply this same logic that he dose and say you can be a devote Catholic & be saved then so can a Jehovah's witnesses & even Mormons be saved & stay a morman or a jw. This is totally wrong. If a person knows Jesus He will know that what Roman Catholics practice & believe about salvstion , mary, the Eucharist ritual, praying to saints & much more things is totally wrong. A person if truly born again wouldn't stay in a cult like roman Catholic church is.
I agree. I had to leave the Catholic Church after reading Exodus 20. I could no longer worship God the way man wants to. We kissed statues and prayed to the virgin Mary as our mediator. This was done as a group I started to tell my friends and they would point to tradition rather than the word of God. So I left the Roman Catholic deception.
@ALEX W. I understand that as a minor you are in your parents care and you are answerable to them. However I would advice you to consider the scripture that says "children Obey your parents in the Lord " notice the phrase "in the Lord" . If your parents are Godly and what they are asking you to do is not against Scripture then for sure do as they say & don't dishonour them. However if what they say is against God's will for example, to murder someone then don't obey them but obey the Lord. I'd leave the Catholic church as soon as you reach an age where you are allowed to do your own thing. Remember kids have sex outside of marriage, drink & party while they are under age & still in thier parents care they fight for what they think is thier right & what's important to them even though parents say don't do it. So why not fight for what God says is right and make a stand in love let them know what your convictions are concerning the word of God & the Church. You may be the one God uses to bring light to thier lives too. People can marry at 16yrs old so why can't you leave an organisation that's not of the Lord?? . God bless u and be with you.
*Romanists can never explain why BIBLE says SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS!* *BIBLE SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED NOT BY WORKS, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST* ( Only unbelievers and Jews under Mosaic Law are judged by works for salvation. Romans 2, Rev 20:13. Christians are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2:8-9. ) ● 2 Tim 1:9 …. saved NOT according to our WORKS. ● Eph 2:8-9 … saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS. ● Titus 3:5 …. saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Gal 2:16 …. not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED! ● Rom 4:6 … Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH ● Rom 11:6 … IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE ● John 3:16 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! ● Acts 16:30-31 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS! ● Eph 2: 8-9 … salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS! ● Rom 4:1-2 … justified NOT BY WORKS! ● Rom 4:3 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Rom 4:4 … WORKS are debts ● Rom 4:5 … he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED ● Rom 4:5 … God justifies the ungodly, ● Rom 4:5 … FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Rom 4:8 … imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS! ● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS! ● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS! ● Rom 4:11 … Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH ● Rom 4:14-15 … Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. ● Rom 4:22 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS ● Rom 4:22 … RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS! ● Gal 2:16 … justified not by Works of the Law, but BY FAITH IN CHRIST! ● Gal 2:21 … if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain. ● Gal 3:1-5 … Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)? ● Gal 3:1-5 … Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law? ● 2 Cor 5:21 … GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. ● 1 Pet 2:24 … Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS) ● John 1:29 … Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS) ● Luke 23:43 … the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS!
6:12 I don't think Scripture supports this position, because John 6 says "52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” 53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.” And 1 Cor 11 says, "27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself." And there are so many quotes of Early Church Christians affirming that the Eucharist is the body of Christ here: www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html . And every Christian believed the Eucharist was the body of Christ for the first 1500 years of Christianity. And if this position is correct, how would the Eucharist miracles be explained that are listed in this video: ruclips.net/video/soCkftBBsBo/видео.html ?
@Anytime Homeboy *Not in the cannibalistic sense like Roman cult believed though.* YOU: And every Christian believed the Eucharist was the body of Christ for the first 1500 years of Christianity. ME: *Not in the cannibalistic sense like Roman cult believed though.*
@@browncony3897 Cannibalism is the literal eating of human flesh jesus was giving us his body and blood beyond the human flesh and blood and that is what Catholics believe - which is entirely scriptural (John 6 + 14 other scripture)
@@1234poppycat *1. BIBLE does not say eating flesh is not cannibalism. BIBLE says communion is spiritual. Not physical. 1 Cor 10:3-4. 2. John 6 does not say its physical.* YOU: Cannibalism is the literal eating of human flesh jesus was giving us his body and blood beyond the human flesh and blood and that is what Catholics believe - which is entirely scriptural (John 6 + 14 other scripture)
@@1234poppycat *Which is totally unbiblical. BIBLE does not say "when roman priests pray, wafer becomes Jesus, Jesus comes down from heaven to be eaten by Catholics"!* YOU: what Catholics believe - which is entirely scriptural (John 6 + 14 other scripture)
My husband is a cradle Catholic, went to Catholic school, I went to RCIA and was a Catholic for 7 years. Now I understand after being born again, that Catholicism has satanic doctrines. Read the new testament for yourself please, every word, and believe what you read.
I've recently converted from the protestant faith to catholicism. The beliefs about baptismal regeneration and the real presence in the eucharist are older than scripture and coherent with scripture (Christ says his flesh is real food, and Paul tells us we must discern the body when we eat). Read the Christians who knew the apostles and its clear they beleived that Christ was truly present in the bread and wine. I don't care about winning an argument on the internet, but each week I go and meet with the real Christ. I want to bring my protestant brothers and sisters with me. While some of these points are engaging with the catholic faith as it actually is, many are engaging with just a misunderstanding. Indulgences do not forgive sin as protestants understand it. The catholic faith teaches that those in a state of grace are completely forgiven of sin by no merits of their own. Catholics distinguish between the eternal consequences of sin (hell) and the temporal consequences of sin (broken relationship, dicispline, a hindered relationship with God etc) it is these temporal consequences that are addressed by indulgences. These indulgences are spirtual practices that mend our relationship with God and have the approval of the church. Similarly purgatory is not a second chance, its is, instead a period of purification (like the fire mentioned in 1 Corinthians 3:15). It also addresses only the temporal effects of sin. All who enter purgatory are heaven bound.
As an ex Catholic, I'll add the Eucharist is more than what Pastor John said: a mere man, a priest claims to be sacrificing again the Lord Jesus! It's such arrogance and blasphemy. But everything about R. Catholicism is glorifying man and woman above God. That sums it up. I do agree though that people can get to know Christ even in this deeply sinful church, but most will leave it.
*Difference between Roman false gospel and the true gospel of the BIBLE* *Roman false gospel says:* - Christ's Work at the Cross is insufficient. One needs to do something to add to the Work of Christ done at the Cross to be saved. - Be obedient and do works of love to be saved. - Conditional love of GOD: GOD demands His children to do His biddings first before saving them. *True gospel of the BIBLE says:* - Christ's Work at the Cross is all sufficient. One needs to do nothing to add to the work of Christ to be saved. - Believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:30-31. Good works come naturally as true believers. Eph 2:10. - Unconditional love of GOD: GOD loves His children to save them when they were yet sinners. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Romans 5:8 (KJV) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (KJV+) But G1161 God G2316 commendeth G4921 his G1438 love G26 toward G1519 us, G2248 in that, G3754 while we G2257 were G5607 yet G2089 sinners, G268 Christ G5547 died G599 for G5228 us. G2257 (NKJV) But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (ABP+) [3commends G4921 1but G1161 G3588 4his own G1438 5love G26 6for G1519 7us G1473 G3588 2God], G2316 that G3754 yet G2089 [2being sinners G268 G1510.6 1we], G1473 Christ G5547 [2for G5228 3us G1473 1died]. G599 (Brenton) (DRB) But God commendeth his charity towards us: because when as yet we were sinners according to the time. (ISV) But God demonstrates his love for us by the fact that the Messiah died for us while we were still sinners. (KJVA) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Murdock) God hath here manifested his love towards us. Because, if when we were sinners, Messiah died for us; (ASV) But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Latin) commendat autem suam caritatem Deus in nos quoniam cum adhuc peccatores essemus (YLT) and God doth commend His own love to us, that, in our being still sinners, Christ did die for us;
So you even believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for you ? I thought you don't!How can you believe a thing like this . Pagans believe in human sacrifice for sin , the true God of the Torah hates human sacrifice , how can you believe in this ? You mean the God of heaven did practice child sacrifice to save you? The Romans and other pagans believed similar things , infact their gods died for them & lived on ,why do you believe the same? Don't you think this is paganism of your faith? If this is not paganism ,then all the other things that the church believe can never be paganism as you suggest ,If NOT then the only logical conclusion is : The Bible is not true because the Catholic church corrupted it , as Islam & Muhamad in the Qur'an says : God is not the Father of Jesus , Jesus did not die for our sins ,No man can die for another man's sin. There is no unity of the Father , Son & Holy Spirit . Say no to trinity .
@@balukuroben7458 *You are full of crap. 1. You do not even believe in the BIBLE. Jesus Christ did die for our sins. BIBLE says so. Nothing to do with pagans or human sacrifice. 2. Islam is heresy. Islam asked Muslims to follow the Book of Christians. Do you follow? No you dont. Islam preaches heresy of "Jesus did not die" and "Jesus is not GOD". 3. Islam is just a worship of Moon god. Just some pagan ancient mesopotamia religions. Nothing to do with GOD of the BIBLE or Abraham Isaac Jacob!*
@@balukuroben7458 *Yusuf Ali is a Muslim scholar who translated the Quran.* Yusuf Ali documents that the Koran is a book of myths, fables and fairy tales. bible.ca/islam/islam-koran-fairy-tales-yusuf-ali.htm Yusuf Ali documents that the Koran is a book of myths, fables and fairy tales. Pre-Islamic Sources for material in the Quran Yusuf Ali is a Muslim scholar who translated the Quran. "Many scholars are agreed that the stories found in the Qur'an were derived from the legends and myths of Arabs, Jews, Persians, and Christians. In other words, they did not come from heaven but from earth. Their source is not Allah but human story tellers. This is why many scholars view the Qur'an as a fanciful book of ancient tales. This will not come as a surprise to anyone who actually reads the Qur'an. It is primarily composed of old fables and myths which convolute the names, dates, events, and places of biblical and secular history into incoherent fantasies. Such fantastic stories as the youths in the cave, the she camel, the monkey people and the night journey are only faint garbled reflections of the original tales. Example: Yusuf Ali's translation and commentary on the Qur'an is well known and accepted all over the world: In his comments on the text, he traces the stories of the Qur'an back to the original Arab, Jewish, Persian or Christian legends from which they were derived. He does not deny the earthly sources of the Qur'an. Instead, he documents them! If the Qur'an is a confused and jumbled record of ancient "stories" drawn from the various nations conquered by the Arabs, this becomes the most serious threat to Islam's claim of divine revelation. Maududi was right. Once we identify the sources of the Qur'an, it is no longer a revelation." Surah verse Source of story according to the footnotes and comments in Yusuf Ali's Translation and Commentary of the Koran. 2 60 Jewish And Arab legends 65 Jewish legends 125 Arab legends 158 Arab legends 189 Arab legends 194 Arab legends 196 Arab legends 197 Arab legends 198 Arab legends 200 Arab legends
@@balukuroben7458 *Absu rditie s in Islam* 3. Mo Ha ma d makes gal bride Aisha wipe his se men from his clothes. (?Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229) 4. Mo Ha ma d killed pubesc ent l ittle b oys. Ordered them to drop their clothes. Boys with pubic hair are cut in the throat whether combatants or not. (Abu Dawud 4390) 5. Muslims are promised 72 Ho uris (vi rgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys if they go to heaven. (Hadith Al-Tirmidhi in the Book of Sunah volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah, chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise) 6. Sper m is made from between the backbone and the ribs? (Quran 86:7). We all know sperm is made in the tes tic les. 7. According to Muh amm ad, the embryo spends 40 days as a drop of sperm, 40 days as a clot, and then 40 days as a piece of flesh. In reality, by day 56 the fetus is essentially a complete, though tiny, human being with all organ systems in place, and all tissues developed. (Sahih Bukhari 4:54:430, See also: Sahih Bukhari 4:55:549, Sahih Bukhari 8:77:593, Sahih Bukhari 9:93:546, and Sahih Muslim 33:6390) 8. Gender is not determined until 80 days after conception. It is actually determined AT conception and the sex organs develop around the 6th week (as opposed to the 12th). Sahih Bukhari 8:77:594, See also: Sahih Bukhari 4:55:550, and Sahih Musli m 33:6397 9. Child inherits appearance from the parent that discharges first during sex. (Sahih Bukhari 4:55:546). Obviously untrue. 10. Satan pees in your ears if you oversleep? Sounds like cartoon? (Sahih Bukhari 2:21:245). 11. Non-Mus lims eat in 7 intestines while Mus lims eat in 1? (Sahih Muslim 23:5113). Proven untrue. 12. Looking at the sky during prayer causes blindness (Sahih Bukhari 1:12:717). Obviously false. 13. Fever is caused by the heat of hell (Sahih Bukhari 7:71:619, 1:3262). Really? 14. Black dogs (in general) are the devil. (Sahih Muslim 4:1032) 15. Crowing is caused by seeing angels, braying of donkeys is caused by seeing devils. (Sahih Bukhari 4:54:522) 16. Eating 7 dates cures poison (Sahih Bukhari 7:65:356) 17. Pharoah used crucifixion as a punishment. Crucifixion is a Roman punishment, unknown in Egypt at the time this story supposedly occurred. (Quran 7:124)
Those that believe in Jesus will need a close relationship with Him. Praying to Marry isn't scripture, calling a Pope or mere mortal on earth a Father or Holy Father is wrong.
@@RealGeorgeyWashington Let us take that argument one step further. You yourself reject calling a priest father, but the text says "anyone on earth your father." Granted, we today may not call our biological fathers or our foster or stepparents father, but people throughout the centuries and certainly in the time the word of God was recorded called their fathers "father," and so we cannot exclude the name father itself as the name on its own lacks a judgment and we cannot distinguish without context. To dig a little deeper, we should be able to extrapolate that the text is saying not to call anyone on Earth God the Father or think of them in that manner, as there is one God the Father who has given us the gift of Holy Spirit through his only begotten son, Jesus. We now know we cannot exclude everyone from being called father, but there is still space to call Priests father. Priests in Catholicism are not equated to God the Father for obvious reasons, but the title remains because it was common in the time of Christ to call priests father in the sense that they are a spiritual father. Therefore, with a bit of analysis on the lack of judgment in your scriptural use of father and what we know from history, your argument falls apart. The Church has never proclaimed to be on the same grounds as Christ, God the Father, or any biblical figure. We are encouraged to become like Christ, as seen in 1 John 3:2, so we have a call to holiness and to grow in faith, the role which priests perform among other functions. That does not mean the Church proclaims or has ever proclaimed perfection or heavenly status, but we in the Catholic Church are blessed to have the fullness of the truth.
Brother In this text Actually Christ is forbidding the use of such names as spiritual titles or in ostentatious sense that gives undue spiritual authority to a human being, as if he were the source of truth rather than God. I don't believe this is always the case in the catholic church but we must be careful to guard ourselves. Blessings in our lord Jesus christ.
Seems to me that it would depend on what you mean by devout. If devout can include ignorance to the heresy that the Roman Catholic Church teaches regarding the nature of salvation then, theoritically they could be saved. However, I would say that this question is a mute point. We shouldn't be asking can this person or that person be saved. All can be saved, the question comes down to "who does your faith rest in?"
Caleb Suko // Am Catholic. A Greek Catholic, in Communion with the Roman Church. I grew up Southern Baptist. I would ask you, if you are willing to answer, to what are you referring when you speak concerning the nature of salvation? You see, I would argue that the Catholic perspective of Salvation is in fact Christ alone, understood from the lens of Scripture and not some foreign eisegetical interpretation of Scripture.
alelectricll // Take for instance Martin Luther’s approach to the Law/Grace dichotomy. Yes, we absolutely do not earn our salvation. But repentance is an act, even faith is an act of the intellect-these are not saving acts, but they are the means of opening the soul to have the saving grace of God poured therein. If I were to believe that I didn’t need to repent of my lifestyles of willful sins (which doesn’t just mean feel kind of guilty sometimes for my sins, while continuing to willfully live in direct disobedience to God in them, but to resolve, by the help of God’s Grace not to do them again) to be saved. When Paul spoke of the Law, he was speaking specifically about the Jewish Law, not the Law of Saving Faith, which requires genuine repentance (which means to turn away) from sins. (That doesn’t mean you won’t sin again, or even daily, but... you see this is where the mortal sin-venial sin dichotomy is so helpful. It’s what Paul meant when he said, “those who practice these things will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven”... they’re lifestyles and choices of willful sin that one must resolve not to do, and if you do commit them, to turn from them again, to be saved. That is literally what the perseverance of the Saints is. Those who are destined to eternal life will literally persevere to the end, by God’s Grace. [We can’t know people’s hearts... but more often than not, their actions and their words come from the heart.])
@@alexanderduvall2567 Repentance is a gift, faith is a gift. Catholics use works for salvation, as well as purgatory, to reach heaven. Catholics have to have Priests to get sins forgiven. Grace is a gift as well. Guilt is not from God but from the devil. The Holy Spirit convicts. A True Christian can't sin with impunity, he will repent. The bible says admit your sins to one another. When I forgive, that is what is bound in heaven. If I don't forgive I'm not forgiven, that's bound in heaven as well. Mathew 16: 19 getting the keys of heaven, binding and loosing, are not just for Priests, it's for all who are saved. Oh yeah Mortal sin venial sin.....poppycock.... SIN IS SIN. Scripture says when we (christian) go through the veil, we will see Christ as He really is and we will be like Him. No such place as purgatory or limbo. You told someone that the Catholic church's prospective of salvation from the lense of biblical scripture was Christ alone. That's not true, the Catholic doctrine employs Mary as co-redemptrix, they even pray to her and to dead saints. You said a few things right but you have a great deal of mixture. The Catholic church has added many books from the apocrypha which were deemed undevine by early church fathers. The canon was closed, then when the reformation came they reopened the canon and inserted some of these books......do some research....check it out. The Catholic church reads into scripture ( eisegesis) rather than drawing from scripture (exegesis). I love Catholics, after all I was born to it and most family whom I love are Catholic. I hate the institution not the people, besides there will be some Catholics saved, just like some of the rest of the church people, only God knows who, but the gate is narrow.
Of course IF anyone in any False doctrinal Religion comes to hear the True gospel message and turns from self and puts their faith and trust in Jesus Christ “in” repentance, that person shall be saved. They then receive the Holy Spirit and begin the sanctification process (by God) and as they continue studying the Bible and being in a Biblical (Doctrine)sound church and fellowship with other God fearing followers of Christ and serving His people for the kingdom… That will give God the glory due to Him. Amen
Colossians 1:24 (NIV): "Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church."
If you accept what we call the New Testament you implicitly acknowledge the authority of the Roman Catholic church to compile it and to distinguish genuine scripture from counterfeits....with the exception of seven books Luther threw overboard, of course.
@alray i am not protestant. The thief on the cross repent to Jesus .Jesus said to day you be with me in( paradise) Meaning of the word paradise It's where the old testamen believes where until Jesus death Jesus taken everyone to heaven .
@alray The Pope doesn't have the right to change The Bible it says add or take away. Go to The Bible from the King James version the 10 commandments What you say. In the king James version it says do not Make into any graven image above the Earth beneath the Earth made with hands for I am a jealous God. And what you say do not have any strange gods. All the bibles Did not come from Manuscripts . king James version did everyone tried to make it modern bibles but they did not Go to the manuscript Go to the Manuscripts Only Luther . In your own Bible the Catholic Bible John 3:16 eph2:8_9 Many of the vs can be found the same as the king James version in the Catholic Bible I have a Catholic Bible .
@Asaph Vapor I have explained this to you elsewhere but you insist on your misrepresentation and lies about the Catholic faith. 1 None of Catholic doctrines are against the bible and all can be supported by the bible and the wider Christs teaching. Look up in the Catholic catechism with over 2000 bible references. 2 the Catholic Church did not ban the bible but unauthorised (changed) versions. The best study bible there is "The New Jerusalem Bible " is Catholic.
@Dennis Campeau the only church JESUS STARTED is a body of believers not pagans or idolatrous PRACTICES. those who put their trust in christ for ETERNAL life are his bride. the church is an organism not a kingdom in rome. the church has one high priest, one husband one body, it is not "ROMAN CATHOLICISM IT IS CHRISTIANS. ROMAN CATHOLICS PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE SYSTEMATIC OF RITUALISTIC WORKS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INSTITUTION SACRAMENTAL SYSTEM
Haley Santander the pope himself says it’s dangerous for a person to believe they can have a personal relationship with God. Where pray tell is THAT teaching in the Bible? Where in the Bible are we instructed to pray to saints or Mary or any human to intercede for us before God? ( read Hebrews!! Jesus ALONE is our HighPriest!). And there are many other heretical RCC teachings. Read the Bible and let the Holy Spirit teach you.
My advice for you is: pray to God for wisdom and He will give you! Ask him to help you understand the Bible and discern the truth. Don't ask him to confirm what you believe, but to teach you. It requires humility and faith! No one can convince you but God through the holy spirit!
@Dennis Campeau is salvation simple? yes , so simple people wont believe it. JOHN 11 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? Do you see the last portion of verse 26 if you do it say "DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?" That is my question to you, do you believe what Jesus is saying to Martha,? is Jesus LYING? does Jesus say you shall never die unless you do the sacraments, indulgences, prayers to Mary, confession to a priest, does Jesus tell her she needs to do anything other ther believe? the answer is no, if Martha were to die she would go to heaven. simple so simple my grandchild believed it and is saved ETERNALLY. Jesus clearly said "SHALL NEVER DIE", ROMAN CATHOLICISM DENIES THIS VERSE TO BE TRUE and that you cannot be saved by faith in Jesus alone, theres other thing you need to do which are works. what works did the thief on the cross do, does he get a free ticket. Roman CATHOLICISM is a HERESY and man made fabrication to try and prove the bible does not mean what it says. John 4 10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the GIFT of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee LIVING WATER. John 3 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John3 36 He that believeth on the Son HATH EVERLASTING LIFE: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. YOU DONT BELIEVE THESE VERSES OUT OF THE MOUTH OF JESUS. Your Jesus cannot save anyone he is a naked man nailed to a cross in your church that needs MOMMY to help him. My Jesus of scripture is risen and victorious and paid for all my sin, he himself purged my sins, I now have his righteousness and not my own. I have possession of ETERNAL life now while I'm alive. CATHOLICISM and scriptures are complete opposites. repent from this Constantinian false pagan idolatrous religious system of works and believe the gospel, the good news purgatory is bad news and false news. be blessed and believe in Jesus
The REALITY is that almost no one really knows what it means to be a "Born Again Chrisitan" Even Jesus (who was/is God in the living flesh) said that very few will make it through the narrow gate and this due to people failing to understand what it means to become a "Born Again Christian" (which is also synonymous with being "Saved" or a "Spiritual Awakening." Those who call themselves a "Born Again Christian" just for the sake of image will be like the other 99.99% who also will end up in Hell for eternity like Pastor John. Like Jesus said in John 11-25, 26 “I am the Resurrection and the Life. Whoever believes in (adheres to, trusts in, relies on) Me [as Savior] will live even if he dies; and everyone who lives and believes in Me [as Savior] will never die. In order to believe in something, such as a doctor, one MUST fully test the doctor's advice / recommendation after leaving the doctor's office and this includes taking and following the doctor's prescribed medications and / or daily exercise routine. This is the same as with Jesus words when He uses the word "beleives." One must fully test what Jesus had told His followers in order to fully understand what Jesus was telling His followers to do (and also what Jesus was trying to tell Nicodemus when the two spoke to one another.
I'm a devout protestant. But in my role as a caregiver for a lovely lady years ago, who was a Roman Catholic, I had to drive her to her Mass. I found the whole practice she cherished to be really out of sorts with what I know to be the truth. But in my capacity for the home health organization, it was my job and duty to assist her, not to reprimand her for her beliefs. She and I had many talks out our Savior over the many months I cared for her. I shared with her the Gospel, which she already knew, and I couldn't help but notice that she had a gentle kind of spirit...one who welcomed everyone. She was in love with Jesus. He was her focus, moreso than Mary. Now, I'm not saying all Catholics are like her. And I agree to this day that their ideas are not rooted in Scripture. But she really made me wonder if Roman Catholics could be saved, because she had the fruits of the Holy Spirit from Ephesians, her life was coated and drenched in them! I grew to admire her faith, not her religion - her faith which was simple and childlike and adoring of Jesus Christ. Sadly, weeks after a form of dementia ravaged her brain, the LORD took her home. But she made me believe that salvation is possible for Roman Catholics, because with God all things are possible. (Matthew 19:26) She inspired this poem I wrote, called: "Rain Tree Spotting" From ages past, a photograph proves the lady made a lovely bride; of whose husband’s death and glory she tells the story with joy as we ride… along the narrow road, where she points out a tree with light pink patches blooming, for all the world to see. She tells me, “It’s a rain tree.” And we go further on in hopes to spot another with light pink patches donned. She’s been around for quite a while, with wisdom like a jewel; she carries herself with dignity, living by the golden rule. Her hands are aged with time and reach out to embrace just any passer by that eyes her warm and smiling face. She’s not one for discourse on issues that divide, and when pinned to answer says she’ll not take any side. She rather looks for beauty in the simplest of things, and gives praise so spirits raise in joyful noises to our King. She inspires me to be better in my love for fellow man; there is a Light within her that’s been put up on a stand. She’s really like the rain tree who stands through weather cold or warm- with light pink patches, perfect, in their poise and stately charm. These trees she sees, they comfort me- remind me of a better place where God will hold us near; wipe every tear; and reign in almighty grace. Oh let us be like rain trees, LORD, who flourish along the Way… to bless the scene in peace, serene, growing for You come what may. And let us be like her, dear God, whose womb was never barren… but fertile like fields who ever yield the blessed Rose of Sharon.
Mass, eucharist, praying to Mary, and dead people are idolatry against God... To love Jesus is to follow God's Word and Truth the Gospel...the New Testament only...the Bible only... anything outside of it is from Satan...
@@lydiapetra1211 We all, as protestants, know that. But the Bible also tells us to love mercy and walk humbly with our God. (Micah 6:8) It's one thing to know doctrine, it another to live it. And there's nothing merciful or humble about damning people to hell in our own estimation because they have been deceived. We have all been deceived at one point or another in our lives. And apart from grace, we couldn't believe correctly. So we are to operate from a point of humility so that none of us should boast in our own knowledge or works (Ephesians 2:8-9) You know nothing about the lady I write of in that poem. We must be careful, because knowledge leans itself to arrogance very easily. This poem is not mine, it's Emily Dickinson's. And it's not "in the Bible" but it has wisdom. Entertain it: What Soft, Cherubic Creatures These Gentlewomen are One would as soon assault a Plush Or violate a Star Such Dimity Convictions A Horror so refined Of freckled Human Nature Of Deity-ashamed It's such a common Glory A Fisherman's Degree Redemption Brittle Lady Be so ashamed of Thee
@@fruitofspirit Iam not a Protestant!!No Protestant will ever be in heaven! People need to know Truth so they can turn to Jesus and repent....hell is very real and very frightening!! The New Testament is very clear...
Sadly many "DEVOTED" Catholics do believe in their works, (that can save them), in their traditions, in Mary and the dead saints, and put their trust in the sheer amount of many members their religion have. If you scrutinized deeply, you'll end up finding Catholicism is traced back to ancient Egypt and Babylon, Semiramis and Nimrod and Tamuz. Mother goddess and sun god worships. No one is saved by believing the Lord and adding to that trust your own boasting of good works you've done in your life. Traditions + Jesus = nothing, it's even a sin to trust in yourself than what Christ have done for you. It's true that the Person that is crucified with Christ the same day at the same mount have been saved, but that's because he believe ONLY THE LORD, he doesn't have any traditions or self works that will help Jesus save him. It's only by the grace of Christ one is saved. Ephesians 2:8-9
@@Valkonnen I do. ***John 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. - Jesus >>> Jesus is the only way. Repent. It is good to turn away from evil. Do good works. Good works are rewarded. But Only faith in the Grace of God which is Jesus can save. Not faith that God exists. God exists whether you believe in God or not. It's faith that the Lord Jesus Christ will make sure that you are among the saints. It's simple to show faith. You simply say , "I am yours God. I accept Jesus as my Savior. Guide me to righteousness." By doing so you are accepting the Lord's authority over your life. >>> If you believe that Jesus is the Christ then congrats. You're on the right path.
@@nightshade99 Satan loves to pull people out of Jesus' church and bring them to himself. And he picks losers who know nothing about the Holy Spirit. God excommunicated in both the Old and New Testaments: Matthew 18:15-17 “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. 1 Timothy 1:20: Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme. Numbers 15:30 But the person who does anything defiantly, whether he is native or an alien, that one is blaspheming the Lord; and that person shall be cut off from among his people.
@@bridgefin Losers? What do you define as a "loser." I was referring to cults who punish their members for not adhering to their false doctrines. Jesus will never cut you off if you truly repent before you die (such as your case.) This is the meaning of Matthew 18: 15-17 What should the community of believers do if someone does fall into sin? How can they both take sinfulness seriously and attempt to bring the sinner back to faithfulness? Jesus gives a process for doing exactly that. He begins by describing a scenario in which one among them sins. Some scholars question how the words "against you" should be read in this verse. Some earlier Greek manuscripts don't have those two words, simply saying "If your brother sins." Is Jesus talking about someone who sins only against another believer? Or someone who offends or does something disagreeable? Or is this someone who sins in any obviously and truly clear way? It's reasonable that the same process should be applied in all cases. If another believer in Jesus sins against us-or if we become aware of the clear and obvious sin of another Jesus-follower-Jesus insists that the first step is always to have a private conversation with the person. This is often the most effective step in helping anyone to recognize and repent from sin. However, it's only likely to work if one approaches that person in childlike love and humility and without despising him or her. The goal is to keep this person as a brother or sister, not to shame or humiliate them. If the result is not repentance, and we are still convinced of this person's ongoing sin, it is time to carefully bring someone else into the conversation (Matthew 18:16). This is the second step in a process Jesus taught His disciples for confronting believers who have sinned or are continuing to sin. The beginning of the process involves only the person who is wronged and the one who has sinned. Or, perhaps, it involves the person who has witnessed another person sinning in some specific way. In either case, one person approaches another about the sin. The goal is confession and repentance in order to restore the relationship (Matthew 18:15). More often than we realize, a simple conversation between two people is all that is needed for someone to admit wrongdoing and to begin to make different choices. Sometimes, though, the sinful person refuses to see their sin. He or she may deny it. They may refuse to stop. If that is the case, Jesus now describes the next step in the process. The person who initiated the complaint should return, this time with a small group, such as one or two other people. Jesus is confirming here the principle established in the law in Deuteronomy 19:15, "A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established." There are clear advantages to making this the next step in conflict resolution. The addition of one or two other people still keeps the matter fairly private. The goal remains repentance and restoration, not public shaming. However, adding more witnesses ensures that the issue is not merely about differing opinions or perspectives. Both the accuser and the accused have the opportunity to make their case to a third party. It may even be decided by those new participants that it's the accuser, not the accused, who is in the wrong. If the additional witnesses agree that the accused is participating in sin, he or she has the opportunity to repent. Otherwise, the witnesses can confirm to the larger body in the next step of the process the refusal to repent (Matthew 18:17).. If not, the accuser must recruit one or two other people to return with him or her to the sinful person and try again. Ideally, additional witnesses will objectively establish the truth. This is an opportunity to weed out rivalry or misunderstanding or inconclusive difference of perspective. However, if those new participants agree sin has taken place, this gives the wrongful one another chance to admit the sin, repent, and make things right (Matthew 18:16). Now Jesus prescribes what must happen if the sinful person continues to refuse repentance and restoration. The accuser and the witnesses must accept the unpleasant task of presenting the situation to the church or the assembly. Again, ideally, those assembled as believers in Jesus will hear the issue and agree with the accused and the witnesses that sin has taken place. If the larger body does not agree wrong has been done, the process would stop here. If they do agree the accused is wrong, he or she is given one last chance to repent and make things right, now in a public setting. Finally, if the sinfulness of the accused has been established and he or she continues to refuse to repent and make things right, then the church is to begin to treat this person as an outsider-in essence, as if they were a non-Christian. Jesus' description of this consequence, using the examples of tax collectors and Gentiles, shows He is talking to His group of Jewish disciples within the context of their Jewish culture. The Jewish religious community also had a process for removing someone from their community who was in rebellion against God. It's important to understand that none of these steps involve treating the unrepentant person with disrespect. Jewish people had working relationships with Gentiles and even tax collectors. They simply did not allow them into the heart of their community and religious life. It's also important to notice that Jesus is not describing these excommunicated people as condemned by God at this point. As Paul will show in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, the goal for the church remains the restoration of the sinful person once he or she has finally come to repentance. Also, it should be noted that banishment from a community should never be practiced lightly. Christian leaders should never despise those under their care, even those in rebellion. Much harm has been done by Christian leaders who have mishandled the application of this passage. The final step in this process should only ever be entered into with humility and great love for everyone involved-it is literally presented as the last resort.
@@bridgefin This is the meaning of 1 Timothy 1:20 Two examples of those who had "shipwrecked" their faith are the focus of this verse: Hymenaeus and Alexander. According to the prior verse, these men did not merely wander from the faith. They made a purposeful choice to reject a clear conscience, and the result was a destruction of their spiritual lives. Based on other comments in the New Testament, it is doubtful either of these men were legitimate believers. Hymenaeus is also mentioned in 2 Timothy 2:16-18: "But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already happened. They are upsetting the faith of some." Apparently, at that point, Hymenaeus will be claiming that the resurrection of the dead had already taken place, distressing believers through his false teaching and ungodly living. Alexander was a common name from the period, and there are multiple people with that name in the New Testament. A Jew named Alexander is mentioned in Ephesus in Acts 19:33-34. It is unclear whether this is the same man Paul mentioned. Second Timothy 4:14-15, however, seems to indicate the same person referred to here: "Alexander the coppersmith did me great harm; the Lord will repay him according to his deeds. Beware of him yourself, for he strongly opposed our message." Both Hymenaeus and Alexander are presented as actively opposing believers and Christian teachings. Paul had "handed them over to Satan," meaning he had stayed away from them so God could deal with them. The point of Paul's action is not to punish, but to inspire repentance and reconciliation (as in 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15).
The Gospel is simple really! It's not Religion rather a relationship. Religion is our efforts to reach our Creator. Through the Gospel God reaches us in Christ Jesus. By grace we're JUSTIFIED through faith upon Jesus. Sanctified through the sealing of the Holy Spirit thereafter as we walk in loving obedience to Jesus in gratitude and appreciation for God senfing His Son to clean dirty filthy me ! We're are REDEEMED. We come in His plan thence living and proclaiming the Good News of the GOSPEL. 2 Cor 5:17-18)
Jesus Loves You!!❤ He's coming back soon!! Time's almost up!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know alot of people dont believe in Jesus's return or the three days of darkness or the rapture or the tribulation, * i think the first three might be the same thing or at the same time but thats just my personal opinion* but his disciples asked him what will be the sighn of your coming AND of the end of the age. 2 different things. His coming. And the end. Seek God in ALL your ways and he WILL direct your path, and for those who don't believe Jesus is God, look up bible verses saying that HE IS God. JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God JOHN 1:14 The word bacame flesh and dwelt among us .
I am so glad I became a Catholic in 2021 after being a Calvinist and being a fan of John Piper... The strawmen are ripe here. I don't know if he is ignorant or is bearing false witness but the first comment he makes about the Pope alongside the Teaching Magisterium being above Scripture is totally off. They are faithful servants and interpreters of Scripture based upon a living Tradition (2 Thess 2:15, 3:6, 1 Corinthians 11:2 and elsewhere) and if you want to see what the early Church/Tradition believed in (their interpretation) on the Eucharist, on Baptism, on Apostolic Tradition, on Apostolic Succession, etc you will not remain an Evangelical... I promise. You have to ask yourself who is more likely to get the interpretation right? A disciple of the Apostle John (like Ignatius of Antioch) or one in living memory (like Irenaeus) or a Reformer 1500 years down the road, let alone John Piper or any other contemporary pastor that is doing the EXACT same thing Rome is doing which is interpreting Scripture. The difference is Tradition holds that the Church is infallible on matters of faith and morals (in specific instances obviously, not every comment by a theologian) whereas contemporary pastors, at best, have a mere theological opinion... Ironically they are really saying the same thing that Rome is saying. What is that? That their reading of the Bible is led by the Holy Spirit, which the Holy Spirit is infallible... If that is the case, why so many contradictions on ESSENTIAL issues, not just secondary? Protestantism is a broken system, we have 300 plus denominations in the United States and 40,000 denominations worldwide. Tell me who has the capacity to actually fulfill John 17? The Church of Rome where there's 1.3 to 1.4 billion Catholics in one Church, or Protestantism where there's roughly 800 to 900 million Protestants spread out across 40,000 denominations... You guys gonna call a Council (Like Acts 15) to figure that out? We actually have the mechanism by which to do that... Protestants reading this, please read primary sources of the Catholic Church and read the Fathers; the early Church was the Catholic Church. God bless you.
@Ben Jones Yeah I have literally never met a Catholic who left the Church for Protestantism who knew what they were leaving and I've met scores of them but every Protestant that I have met that became a Catholic or have seen on video that made that decision knew their Protestantism well and knew exactly what they were leaving and what/why they were becoming Catholic. There's that old saying that is very true, "strong Protestants become Catholic, weak Catholics become Protestant."
I would fall under protestant but would ask the question "Can a devout protestant be genuinely born again?" I think the question in this video shows the pride of prodestantism, thinking we have the correct view of the Bible, being devastatingly blinded by the plank in our eye while trying to take the specks out of the Catholic Church's eye. Neither prodestantism nor Catholicism have a monopoly on God. God is much bigger than both. I hope we can get along much better in the future and stop the division.
***Revelation 2:1-7 “To the angel of the church of Ephesus write, ‘These things says He who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands: “I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; and you have persevered and have patience, and have labored for My name’s sake and have not become weary. Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place-unless you repent. But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.” ’
***Revelation 2:8-11 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write, ‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” ’
***Revelation 2:12-17 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write, ‘These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword: “I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality. Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.” ’
***Revelation 2:18-29 “And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write, ‘These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass: “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. “Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden. But hold fast to what you have till I come. And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations- ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’- as I also have received from My Father; and I will give him the morning star. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
***Revelation 3:1-6 And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you. You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
A a practicing Roman Catholic myself I have to say almost every concern you had in this podcast was based completely in the wrong. I urge you if you want to talk about such things to actually go into a parish or religious education classroom and learn about it. Many of the preconceived notions you had were way off base
*Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways!* *RCC vs BIBLE 2* 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. 11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + 7 sacraments + obedience = salvation). Yet Bible says believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity. Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a c--- disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
I don't know why I never connected those dots before about Mary making a sin offering. After I read Mary say "my savior" that was enough for me. Mary cannot be sinless!
The world needs to see that we are not in Martin Luther's time. We are not in an era where an elite few read the scripture. This is the USA where Roman Catholic Education has taught the bible for decades to students, mostly young but also old. The followers in the USA and other nations (many of which are literate nations) have been exposed, read, and studied in detail the bible. The practitioners of Catholicism are very much readers of scripture. In addition, it has been made abundantly clear that Catholic teaching IS in fact found in scriptures and the Catholic Church is the one holy apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ. My Catholic brothers and sisters, be steadfast in your faith, but think of the slowness to anger our Lord possesses and while no one can substitute Jesus, there is hope that we may show patience and love for all those who have fled away from home. As St. Paul said in 1st Corinthians "Let there be no divisions in the Church." One cannot deny the divisions in Christianity that have propagated as a result of the Protestant Reformation. While the Church in Luther's time may have needed reform, it did not need a reformation. Peace my Protestant brothers and sisters.
Beloved, Jehovah's Witnesses certainly study the Bible more than Romanists, yet they are still heretical. The main issues bears repeating: 1. It the Word that forms the Church and not the Church that forms the Word. The Word has always been in existence (being God Himself). The Spirit inspired men to write down aspects of it, and it reached its fullest expression in the life and teachings of Christ. It is the Word that is infallible and not the Pope or the Church. It’s untrue that the OT was not regarded as Scripture until some Church Council said so. Jesus and the Apostles regarded the OT as settled Scripture. Evidence for this is in every single book of the NT. The Church merely accepted the OT Scriptures as they are. They also accepted all books that had Apostolic authority as the NT. The Church Councils had no choice whatsoever in the matter. 2. The claims of Rome rest solely on the revisionist notion of Peter the first Pope. I cringe when Romanists drag the blessed name of St Peter into their heresy. Peter was primus inter pares (first among equals) but NEVER a Pope. In fact, at the very first Council (of Jerusalem) James presided and gave the final ruling, even though Peter was present. Paul regarded himself as equal to Peter, and wrote letters to Churches he did NOT found, without referring to the need to check things with a Pontiff. Peter refers to Paul's teachings as authoritative, while Paul denounced Peter's teachings as heretical. In fact, Paul wrote to the Church of Rome, without any reference to Peter. The Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster would not write a letter to the Vatican without any reference to the Pope. If Peter was an infallible pontiff (like the heretical Pope Pius the IX claimed), the NT would have no encyclicals from any of the other Apostles. Just like in today's RC Church, only Popes write encyclicals. Peter as pontiff is the revisionist creation of unscrupulous papists. Sir, you have been duped. 3. Papal infallibility is far more pernicious than most people realize. Among many ill effects, lets state only five: i. It quenches the Spirit: that is why RC hymn writers are often converts or ecumenists. Cardinal Newman could not have written “Souls of men” if he did not have the fortune of starting life as an Anglican. When Romanists sing "Amazing Grace" or "Blessed Assurance" or "Abide with me" one often wonders if they realize that their own church members have a psychological block from attaining such levels of Christian expression mainly because of the Romanist ethos of infallibility which situates inspiration in an artificial mechanism rather than in the Word of God. ii. It quenches accountability of the hierarchy - there is “trickle-down” quasi-infallibility of Cardinals, Bishops and even ordinary priests and religious. Many Romanist parish priests speak "ex cathedra" in their own little corners even more stridently than the Supreme Pontiff. That is what is at the root of the explosive scandals. That is also why Pope Francis can ignore very valid appeals for him to be accountable. iii. It quenches interest in the Word of God - why bother when one man has all the answers? iv. It quenches Evangelism - people are not eager to spread a Word which is not definitive but is subject to tinkering and "interpretation" through a system led by a man who is elected by a fallible conclave. That is why the vast majority of converts to Christianity become evangelical Christians. Romanism is a dead end. v. It quenches Integrity. Lets take a simple example. Apart from the arch-conservatives, most Romanists tell me in private that they reject the encyclical Humanae Vitae. Yet, against the dictates of their own conscience, they must defend it publicly, only because the Pope is "infallible".
Pope Francis proclaims Jesus … biblical and otherwise Francis said "According to the World Jesus failed on the cross " Not according to Francis or the Catholic Church. Catholic doctrine is at one with the bible (we compiled it around 397 AD Council of Rome and the Synod of Hippo ) and if you think otherwise you don't know Catholic doctrine and/ or the bible.
@Asaph Vapor So I did my research and all this comes from two organisations one ""the onion.com " and another "fuckthe pope" both with a reputation for lies and anti Catholic hate. No reputable news agency reports this!!
@Asaph Vapor I have corrected these before. I will just do a few to show Firstly nowhere in the bible that Catholics compiled around 395 ad Council of Rome and Synod of Hippo does it say "bible alone" Secondly you know you are wrong if you think you have found a contradiction between the bible and catholic teaching as there is none. three nowhere in the bible does it say Mary sinned. Mary was a perpetual virgin. Brothers and sisters refers to deep friends and wider relatives such as cousins. We are told to as for forgiveness from God alone but this is through HIS ordained ministers "whatever sins you forgive they are forgiven .... you retain they are retained..." John 6 Jesus says three times "You must eat my body and drink my blood" We have 14 scripture quotes to back this up. (Acts 15 refers to drinking human blood... The bible says you need to do a lot more than "believe in Jesus" John 3 Baptism John 6 + 14 other references for the Eucharist. ….. Jesus said love GOD AND YOUR NEIGHBOUR...……..
I was a devout Catholic for 30+ years until God change my life in the summer of 2022. 2020 started my conversion when all the churches started shutting down. I was pretty worried so I started actually reading my Bible. My mom (who is still Catholic) gave me a very short book (120 ish pages) called the “Warning.” It is a Catholic book about people repenting and praying the rosary and having supernatural experiences with Jesus. The book is great however at the very end of the book there is a claim that one day everyone will become Catholic (this is clearly not going to be the case, in fact later I find out that the Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon in the book of Revelation.) This book however did something that I was not expecting. You see this whole time although I was a sinner I always thought I am a “good” person, I am in the true church, I am Catholic, I am probably going to heaven. I was never sure I was actually going to heaven, maybe I was going to purgatory like the Catholic Church teaches. (I know now purgatory does not exist and is not Biblical and goes against what Jesus taught. It really helps to actually know the Bible.) So I believed I was a “good” person and I was going to heaven. I of course was using my own standards as who was a good person and not God’s standards. So while reading this book it starts out with people who were really bad sinners (in my eyes) and I would think “I am not as bad as these people. Surely I am going to heaven.” Then near the end of the book there was a story about a nun. In my eyes the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, priests, and nuns were all Holier than me. They had dedicated their whole lives to God something I didn’t do and they hear from God more than me. (I hadn’t connected the dots yet about the Catholic church.) So I read about this nun talking about her sins that she had to repent. (What is funny is that the people in this book all repented to God and not to a Priest. I didn’t even realize that till later though.) She was listing all these sins that were nothing in my eyes and less sins than my sins. She was talking about how she wasn’t always nice to the other nuns and she wasn’t always doing things in love. That got to me. I realized that this person that I thought was Holy was a sinner like me and her sins were less than my own. I read how she repented and had an experience with Jesus. I suddenly had the realization that I was a sinner and that I was NOT going to heaven. I started sobbing from the heart when I realized I was a sinner just like everyone else and I was not going to heaven. The only way I was going to heaven was if God willed it through Jesus. (I already believed in Jesus but had never gone directly to him for forgiveness. I had always done what the Catholic Church taught me which was go tell a priest.) So I said a prayer from my heart asking for forgiveness. “Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus. I am so sorry for sinning against you. I didn’t realize I was hurting you. I am so sorry. Please forgive me. Amen.” I was sobbing the whole time I said the prayer, hoping that God would have mercy on me and let me into heaven. The moment I finished the prayer. I heard a voice (it sounded audible but I know it was in the Spirit). I was in my home office sitting in my work chair when this happened. The voice sounded like it was coming from my left just behind me but I knew it wasn’t an audible voice. The voice said “I forgive you.” I immediately knew the voice was Jesus although I didn’t see him. I also felt/sensed that he touched my heart with his finger. Not my physical heart but my spiritual heart. I know now that he was making me a new creation in Christ. At the time I had no idea what was happening. I had only heard the term born again of the Spirit a couple times and I had never understood what they were talking about. I know without any doubt in my heart that I was born again in that very moment. When I cried out to God asking for forgiveness from a truly repented heart. He forgave me and gave me a new spirit and new heart with new desires. I am born again. (John 3:8) *** For anyone who is still Catholic here is why purgatory is not true (among many other false doctrines.) Jesus paid for all sin for all of mankind over 2000 years ago. He didn’t pay for it one at a time he did it all at once. So people that haven’t even been born yet he already paid for their sins. For purgatory to exist would mean that Jesus either forgot to pay for one or more of your sins or he Chose not to pay for one or more of your sins. That is not the Jesus of the Bible. That is a false Christ. The Jesus Christ of the Bible paid for all sin for all of mankind for all of time. He doesn’t pay for your sins one at a time as you commit them. He takes them all at once when you are born again. The spiritual realm is outside of time. He takes your old dead spirit with all the son attached to it and puts it on himself and gives you a new Spirit of Life and then the Holy Spirit comes to dwell inside of you. He is there to help you with everything. He will help you purge everything from your life that shouldn’t be there. You will have a new heart with new desires. Leave religion behind for a relationship with God.
If the Catholic Church is mystery Babylon, then you Protestants are also from Mystery Babylon. Purgatory is not going against anything. You clearly do not know the bible. Protestants believe that they are going to heaven because of their doctrine of once saved always saved. Jesus instituted the sacrament of Reconciliation which you Protestants hate. Your understanding of Purgatory is wrong. All you did was show your ignorance of what the Catholic Church teaches.
@@georgepierson4920 *You do not sound intelligent. Christians are already OUT OT Roman pagan religion like what Scriptures commanded. So why would Christians be Mystery Babylon?* you said If Roman Catholic Church is mystery Babylon, then you Protestants are also from Mystery Babylon.
@@georgepierson4920 *You do not sound intelligent again. Bible does not teach Roman pagan Purgatory. Bible teaches "die once then Judgement". THere is no time for Purgatory.* you said Purgatory is not going against anything.
@@georgepierson4920 *Again lacking intelligence. Bible says "believe in Jesus to be saved", John 3:16. Christians are already saved like Scriptures say. Unlike Roman pagans who are never saved since ROman pagans love Purgatory (Lucy's home).* you said Protestants believe that they are going to heaven because of their doctrine of once saved always saved.
@@georgepierson4920 *Jesus did not institute any ROman pagan Mass (sacrificing Jesus on the altar back to God) though. You cannot find that in Scriptures. So where did Roman pagans get all your ns?* *On the contrary, Bible says clergy priesthood, altars and sacrifices were already obsolete, Heb 7,9,10. So where did Roman pagan altars and Roman pagan priesthood come from?* you said Jesus instituted the sacrament of Reconciliation which you Protestants hate.
I was catholic for 30+ years before my life became so I called on the name of the lord and searched for him whole heartedly and found Jesus christ. Catholism is regurgitated paganism.
@ALEX W. Who says Catholics worship Mary? actually only non-Catholics strangely enough. She is honoured and respected but worship is only reserved for God alone.
@Asaph Vapor Catholics believe those horrific priests out there are all going to hell, unless they truly repent but ironically the Gospel of Grace has them going to heaven since all their sins have been forgiven by the redemptive work of Christ on the cross.
If only Mother Teresa had heard this, then she wouldn’t have waisted all her time opening orphanages, and creating housing for people with HIV/AIDS and leprosy, feeding the hungry, and providing medical services and counseling for some of the poorest people on Earth. All those silly Catholics taking care of the poor and less fortunate. Matthew 7:16
it's nice to hear a pastor speaking unabashedly about the Roman Catholic church. So many, when asked this question, will give a politically correct answer. What does the Catholic church teach? what does the Bible teach in comparison? Thank you!
@Asaph Vapor I have corrected these before. I will just do a few to show Firstly nowhere in the bible that Catholics compiled around 395 ad Council of Rome and Synod of Hippo does it say "bible alone" Secondly you know you are wrong if you think you have found a contradiction between the bible and catholic teaching as there is none. three nowhere in the bible does it say Mary sinned. Mary was a perpetual virgin. Brothers and sisters refers to deep friends and wider relatives such as cousins. We are told to as for forgiveness from God alone but this is through HIS ordained ministers "whatever sins you forgive they are forgiven .... you retain they are retained..." John 6 Jesus says three times "You must eat my body and drink my blood" We have 14 scripture quotes to back this up. (Acts 15 refers to drinking human blood... The bible says you need to do a lot more than "believe in Jesus" John 3 Baptism John 6 + 14 other references for the Eucharist. ….. Jesus said love GOD AND YOUR NEIGHBOUR...……..
You need to ask yourself why so many biblically knowledgeable protestants are turning to Catholicism (like Dr Scott Hahn etc) ? Because Catholicism is closest to the bible ! The so called "pastor John " lies about Catholicism and twists the bible to give comfort to those too lazy to find out about Catholicism themselves.
Continued: 10) The Virgin Mary, the Mother of our Blessed Lord. Once you settle the issue of the non-Biblical evidence of "faith alone, scripture alone," and realize that one Church has consistently interpreted, taught, and defended the faith and new testament of the Living God, the Marian Doctrine becomes clearer. Per the Douay Rheims 1582 translation (more accurate than the KJV,) Gabirel greets Mary. "And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." [Luke 1:28] Gabriel "Strenght of God," gives Mary divine greeting, the only time it is such in Scripture. "Full of Grace" "Gratia Plena" "Chaire, Kecharitomene," means "you" were perfected in grace in the past and remained perfect until the present time. This is the same quality of the sanctifying grace St. Pauls describes in Ephesians 1:6-14, Christ's regeneration of us through grace to be made perfect in him, "[6] Unto the praise of the glory of his grace, in which he hath graced us in his beloved son. [7] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins, according to the riches of his grace, [8] Which hath superabounded in us in all wisdom and prudence, [9] That he might make known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, which he hath purposed in him, [10] In the dispensation of the fulness of times, to re-establish all things in Christ, that are in heaven and on earth, in him. [11] In whom we also are called by lot, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things according to the counsel of his will. [12] That we may be unto the praise of his glory, we who before hoped in Christ: [13] In whom you also, after you had heard the word of truth, (the gospel of your salvation;) in whom also believing, you were signed with the holy Spirit of promise, [14] Who is the pledge of our inheritance, unto the redemption of acquisition, unto the praise of his glory. [15] Wherefore I also, hearing of your faith that is in the Lord Jesus, and of your love towards all the saints." Full of Grace is Mary's name to God the Father, for she is the new Eve of the New Covenant that is the gateway Jesus Christ uses to not only carry out his mission, but also restores the fall of the old Adam and old Eve. Christ is the New Adam, Mary the new Eve, and it must be so because only a uncreated being: fully God and fully man, the God-Man could accomplish the restoration of His fallen creation from Satan. Mary is also the ark of the new covenant, as the old ark carried: the word of God (the ten commandments), bread from heaven (mana) and the rod of Aaron (the High Priest), Mary in her womb for nine months carried: the word of God ((became flesh) to (dwell among us)), the bread of Life (John 6), and the High Priest (of the order of Melchizedek) who as St. Johns writes: ""And I saw: and behold in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the ancients, a Lamb standing as it were slain, having seven horns and seven eyes: which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth. [7] And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne. [8] And when he had opened the book, the four living creatures, and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints: [9] And they sung a new canticle, saying: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to take the book, and to open the seals thereof; because thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God, in thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation. [10] And hast made us to our God a kingdom and priests, and we shall reign on the earth." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 5:6]." Scripture declares Mary as the Mother of God, vice only the Mother of Jesus (man only), "And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" [Luke 1:43] To miss this key part would be to fall to Arianism (4th Century Heresy, condemned at the Council of Nicea); the heresy stated Jesus was not God, but rather a created being. Additionally, going back to "Full of Grace," God cannot dwell in the presence of sin nor enter a corrupted vessel that would be under the authority of Satan. Mary, "Full of Grace" allows for this not to happen. Lastly, one of the most beautiful verses of Revelation, and definitive for the Church to say Mary is the "Queen of Heaven," is the entire Chapter 12 of Revelation. We feel this is sufficient for now but can also reference: Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation (Confession), Purgatory, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Bishop of Rome (aka the Pope), Pope and Trinity, Romans: St. Paul vs. Martin Luther. Thus we leave you with "To him be glory and empire forever and ever. Amen. Beseeching and testifying that this is the true grace of God, wherein you stand. Salute one another with a holy kiss. Grace be to all you, who are in Christ Jesus. Amen."
No. If you believe the gospel then you don't trust Mary for salvation, you don't bow down to idols, or the pope, or the priest, or the saints, and you don't do the hundreds of unbiblical doctrines that they practice. PERIOD
When you love you theology more than you love Jesus and his word, you maybe in trouble. Some calvinists, in my view, rant on about their theology to such an extent, it does make you wonder, which they love more. There are catholics like that, they love their RCC and their pope in the same way. Theology has nice has it may seem, will lead many to hell I fancy, because they can become totally absorbed by it. Look at hyper calvinists, look what theology did for them. In my opinion there is only one theology you need to worry about, Love God with all your heart, mind and power and love your neighbour, that's it. You can't go wrong. Most theology is just man made theology, guessing what God says, what his word says. God won't look at what is in your head, it's your heart he is concerned with.
Jesus gave us HIS Catholic Church as we all can not be theologians. Those outside the Church who make up their own bible institutions, traditions and change Christ for their own ends are against Jesus
@@1234poppycat Who do you believe? The men of the Catholic church who have made up theology and doctrines that the bible warns about, or do you believe scripture? Jesus is the Word made flesh. Believing and trusting God is all God has ever wanted. Eve failed to believe and trust God.
@@1234poppycat "Those outside the Church who make up their own bible institutions, traditions and change Christ for their own ends are against Jesus" - this describes the Catholic church
@@1234poppycat Yes Jesus gave us the church, therefore, follow Jesus' church, not the Catholic church. Jesus is the Word made flesh. Follow the Word to follow Jesus and you will be in his church if you fellowship with other believers.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr the Holy Catholic Church is Jesus's Church ... the conversation between Jesus and St. Peter in John 21:15-17, and that’s when Jesus says “Do you love me?” “Yes, Lord.” “Feed my lambs. Do you love me?” “Yes, Lord, I love you.” “Tend my sheep.” The Greek word there is literally “shepherd my sheep,” and then of course the third time: “Do you love me? Yes, Lord, you know I love you,” and Jesus responds: “Feed my sheep.” So we have this three-fold command from Jesus to Peter for Peter to engage in these shepherding duties: feeding the lambs, shepherding, and feeding the sheep. And Christians throughout the centuries have seen in that one example among many of Christ investing Peter with this unique role to shepherd the universal flock of God. Because notice: Jesus singles Peter out, gives him these commands in the presence of others-but does not give such commands to the others !!
I was born from a family that’s catholic and I have been baptized as a baby, I am a Christian but my family is catholic. I went to Catholic Churches as a kid and my family is Mexican but I’ve noticed that the priests always say “give me money!” Or something like that. Is that right? And can I be baptized as a Christian still even though my catholic family already baptized me as a baby’?
@??? *Of course you can be baptised as a Christian. Most importantly you must believe in Jesus to be saved.* Act 16:30 And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Act 16:31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
thats rich considering all the millionaire evangelical pastors coining it in by feeding lies and nonsense into gullible people and living the high life at their expense
@@JohnAnderson-ss9vn *You are referring to false churches and false teachers. NOT A DIME to do with true Christianity. By the way true Christianity does not refer to roman cult.*
@??? I (the Apostle, St. Paul), then, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to live in a manner worthy of the call you have received, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another through love,striving to preserve the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace: one body and one Spirit, as you were also called to the one hope of your call; one Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." cf. Ephesians 4: 1-6 Baptism is once for life. Once you are baptized you are baptized: baptized into Christ. You don't need to be rebaptized. You were baptized "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". Your baptism is good for life....eternal life, in fact....Lol. In your baptism, through faith, your sins were forgiven, your spirit was renewed / regenerated, you were justified, you received the gift of eternal life and you received the indelible mark or gift of the Holy Spirit indwelling your soul, "...when the kindness and generous love of God our savior appeared, not because of any righteous deeds we had done but because of his mercy, HE SAVED US THROUGH THE BATH OF REBIRTH AND RENEWAL BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, whom he richly poured out on us through Jesus Christ our savior, SO THAT WE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE and become HEIRS IN HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE. This saying is trustworthy." cf. Titus 3: 4-8 "For IN ONE SPIRIT WE WERE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, AND WE WERE ALL GIVEN TO DRINK OF ONE SPIRIT." cf. I Corinthians 12: 13 "For all of you WHO WERE BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE CLOTHED YOURSELF WITH CHRIST." cf. Galatians 3: 28
@ Natalie B why would you choose to live the rest of your precious life living in fear of going into a place of torment that does not exist? (Purgatory). Better to choose the Lord Jesus Christ and go to him, I would say. So says the Bible too.
@@ronashman8463 I'm afraid you have been misinformed. The Catholic Church does not teach that Purgatory is a place, but rather that it is a process. It is the final rush of sanctification before a soul enters Heaven. Seeing as we are all sinners and "nothing unclean can enter Heaven", something obviously has to happen before we can go there. The simply word purgatory simply means "purification". If you are interested in learning what Catholics actually believe about purgatory rather than some fictitious doctrine Protestants attribute to us, you can read more about it here: www.catholic.com/search?q=Purgatory
*Sure Jimmy S. Except Bible says all sins lead to spiritual death. Not only mortal sins. “For the wages of sin is death. Rom **6:23**a”. So your so call mortal sin is misinterpreted. It can only refer to sin leading physical death as in 1 Cor 5:5. NOT spiritual death.*
@@georgepenton808 Catholicism has beautiful buildings and statues. I go to church in a town hall basement because there are true believers there. It's a wonderful place!
Romans 10:9....Yes. Can a born-again believer walk in The Spirit and practice Catholicism? I tried. Very, very frustrating. Sooner or later ( better sooner) you must let go of religion and embrace The Truth. Colossians 2:6. "As you have received Christ ( by faith ) so walk ye in Him ( by Faith ). "
@the sweaty pro Your post is a contradiction to itself. You yourself "received Christ" in the Catholic religion, therefore, as St. Paul says, you should "so walk ye in Him". Yet you denounce it. Makes no sense. I'll wager you $100 you don't even know the etymology and original meaning of the word "religion" it has taken on so many negative connotations because of those who have claimed to be guides from within it, who went on to scandalize their disciples (I am thinking here of Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, Catholic priests who engaged in pedophilia, etc). The English word "religion" comes from a Latin root word, "religare" which originally meant, "to bind back to". "Religion" is what "binds us back to" God: it is the beliefs, morality, practices and rituals which comprise our faith in, hope in, and love for God. "Religion", in and of itself, CANNOT be bad. Why? Because Jesus Christ Himself stepped down out of eternity and infinity and into time and space as a first century AD Hebrew WHO PRACTICED HIS RELIGION PERFECTLY, and THEREBY WON OUR REDEMPTION AND SALVATION for us RECONCILING US WITH GOD. The 'bad apples' don't define whether or not a 'religion' is good or bad. Is baseball bad because Darryl Strawberry was high on cocaine when he gave us some of the most memorable moments of baseball history? Or when Marc Maguire was really shooting up steroids to go on and break the all time batting record for total hits or home runs? Is the U. S. Presidency, in and of itself, a bad institution simply because former President William Jefferson Clinton committed adultery while president? It isn't the 'bad apples' that define whether something a 'tree' produces good fruit (is good or not), BUT RATHER THE GOOD ONES. How could a religion which produced Sts. Peter and Paul, Sts. James and John, St. Irenaeus, St. Athanasius, St. Jerome, St. Benedict, St. Augustine, St. John Chrysostom, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Hildegard of Bingen, St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, St. Theresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, St. Katherine Drexel, Blessed Columba Marmion, St. John Paul II and St. Teresa of Calcutta (to name but a few) be a force for bad? It is ludicrous on the face of it.
I think ive had this not with Catholic teaching but other wrong teaching and my faith and walk has suffered but I want that close genuine relationship with Jesus
My grandma was Italian, devout roman catholic most of her life and raised her son, my dad, in the roman faith. They didn't know Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior until dad was past his 50s and grandma her 80s... What I learn watching them is that if you agree with Jesus you are convinced but If Jesus becomes the center of your life and affections, you are converted (this is true for "evangelicals" too). More than 50 years of faithful Roman Catholicism faith where not able to bring my grandma to Christ and the reason is simple: The beloved Roman church which Paul wrote the letter we have in our Bibles first had a falling away from faith in the 3rd and 4th centuries and as a result of that the antichrist (popery) came and took over the church, 1260 years later, in 1798 when , as per the prophecies in the bible, it received a partial judgement, the Jesuits took over. In the process God divorced that church and started calling His people out of her starting in 1500s with the reformation. So yes, a Roman Catholic can come to Christ and be born again but soon after that they will depart the Roman church (as did my grandma and dad) because if you love Christ you can't at the same time serve the antichrist(popery). Jesus promised that whoever is looking for will find it so the best message we can give to a roman catholic is for them to seek Jesus, look for Him, not in the roman church but in the Bible.
This man speaks Truth: The religion and Cult of Rome is false pagan and apostate and leads people to hell! Here's Truth: "cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
@LorenzoMasterConnector *Bible does not teach there is such thing as a Catholic or Roman Catholic. Neither Roman Catholic = Christian. So why would there be the self claim of "to be Catholic is to be Christian above ALL denominations"? Where did you get all your ns?* you said To be Catholic is to be Christian above ALL denominations
I've been raised in a country where the Catholic Church has been the only source of religion, bringing people to faith. I also lived in a country where a different god is worshipped, and finally I spent a few years in a country where religion is not supported by the government. Today I'm aware of the Christian persecution around the world, specially in Northern Africa where I had experience to see it. Do I care to categorize the people who love and worship Jesus Christ whether is in a basement, a pompous church, a monumental Eastern European temple or in a simple Congregation? Not at all. The Lord knows our hearts and knows how much we love Him and our commitment to Him. I've known fine Catholics and Presbyterians as Evangelicals. ♥️✝️☀️The Lord Jesus Christ is pure Awesomeness!
Sadly the Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell! Christians must only follow God and His Word the Bible...the gospel is the New Testament... anything outside of God's Word is from Satan!
@@lydiapetra1211 I agree with things that go against the bible. Born again other than baptism is a heresy. The protestant movement is a direct satanic ploy to get folks to think that all they have to do to be saved is come forward for a cheap altar call going against 80% of the things that actually came out of Jesus's mouth. Jesus says that the forces of hell shall not overcome his church. and the only church in existence founded by Peter is the Catholic church.
@@FLpalm Jesus never founded the Roman catholic church....men and Satan founded it! Revelation 17 and 18 are about the Whore of Babylon which is the false pagan and apostate Roman catholic church! You are in a Cult...that's why you are blinded by Satan... what the RCC is teaching you is lies, deception and fabrication! The RCC is Satan's greatest hoax!
@@Dadaistish it depends on the circumstances. If somebody is on their death bed and wants to be saved, they can cry out to God, "Lord, save me, I'm a sinner, I need your forgiveness, have mercy on me." And they will be saved. On the other hand, in most cases, it is as Jesus taught in the gospels. There are several places where people asked Him, "what must I do to inherit eternal life? (i.e. be saved)" A good example is Luke 10:25-37. The Parable of the Good Samaritan. "On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]” “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” The man wasn't convinced and went on to ask "who is my neighbour?" Jesus responded with the parable of the Good Samaritan. The message being, that the Samaritan who showed mercy on the man lying by the roadside, gained God's approval for his actions ans thus gained eternal life. While the two who walked past, did not gain God's approval. If you want to go a bit deeper theologically, of course, there is also the fact that the blood of Christ has redeemed the world from sin, which has opened the way to make salvation possible in the first place. So ultimately any salvation is by the grace of God. Jesus is the lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world. So that has done away with the old Jewish practice of sacrificing lambs etc. and having to keep the law. Jesus has paid the price, so works of the old Jewish law are done away with. Sorry for being so convoluted about a simple question, but there are several layers to it.
@@chrismole1315 thank you, I wasnt expecting such a long answer. With all that said, how can you yourself be sure not ending up in hell? Because I think thats such a big deal, one would have to have assurance of being saved in order to get some sleep at night.. How can you know?
@@Dadaistish I know that God loves me so much, that He became human and sacrificed His life on the cross for me, so I could be saved. So, He obviously wants me (and everybody else) in Heaven. So, no fear in that regard about God not loving me! Second, I know (through faith ultimately) that I am redeemed by the blood of Christ. I am walking daily in a relationship with God and have confessed every sin I am aware of. So, if I were to die right now, I believe I would be saved (trusting in the promises in the scripture). Now (and here is where Catholic theology differs from many Protestants) it is POSSIBLE that between now and the end of my earthly life, I might reject God. I have no intention of doing so. But the Christian life is a spiritual battle and satan never sleeps. As St Paul said: "I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air but I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching others, I myself might be disqualified." (1 Corinthians 9:27) I have no intention of falling away from God, and have the promise "Now unto Him who is able to keep you from falling.... etc" I'm sure you know the verse from Jude. But I guess this is where there is a subtle difference between Catholic theology and the "once saved, always saved" viewpoint. I don't want to pre-judge that, because I don' like attacking somebody's believe when I don't know all the nuances of it. But it seems (to my probably ill-informed understanding) that some Protestants believe that as long as they have prayed the sinner's prayer and been "born again": then they are saved, no matter what they might do from that point. Martin Luther is supposed to have said he could commit adultery 100 times a day and it wouldn't affect his salvation. (That's only hearsay, so maybe he didn't actually say that). That would be heresy according to Catholic theology.
@@chrismole1315 thank you Chris for your time and effort. I am neither protestant nor catholic by the way. By grace I am a christian and by grace through faith I am saved. And all of it is a gift of God. I was a non-believer but when I was at my lowest point Jesus opened my eyes for the truth of the bible. I tried to find in churches/religion what I had experienced, and the simple truth that was revealed to me through scripture, but couldnt find it. Thats I believe a problem with religion. They take something so pure an simple like the gospel, the cross, the grace, and make it complicated, adding on to it. I would suggest, keep it simple and clean as it is. Jesus did all the work for us because we couldnt and we cant. All we "do" is turning to Him but it is Him pulling us towards Him. He knows how weak and useless we are. Sinners! We deserve to go to hell, but by no longer relying on our own rightiousness but on Christ alone, who justifies us, we can live. By grace. Thats so beautiful. And I think you already know, but its worth being preached over and over until the 2nd coming of our Lord. God bless you.
@@Justas399 many believe they were step siblings from Joseph or even cousins. Many books such as the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Peter state that his siblings were from Joseph before he married Mary. Even though these books never made it to the Bible they are historical. You Protestants read one thing and believe it debunks a whole belief. Try reading next time. God Bless
@@colindupuis5585 These brothers were not cousins. The same word used for brothers in Matthew 13:55 is the same word used for Peter and Andrew who were also brothers in Matthew 4:18. They both had the same biological mother.
@@Justas399 In the original text of the gospel, we find the Greek word adelphos, meaning brothers, used. However, adelphos does not just mean blood brothers born of the same parents. Rather, adelphos was used to describe brothers not born of the same parents, like a half-brother or step-brother. The word also described other relationships like cousins, nephews, uncles, etc. For example in Genesis 13:8 and 14:14-16, the word adelphoswas used to describe the relationship between Abraham and Lot
Many protestants think that catholics do not have personal relationship with Jesus. Pl think abt how many priests and catholics have been persecuted because of their faith in God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit! Protestants may think that they are saved coz they feel very emotional abt Jesus and think that the Holy Spirit has made them emotional!
Yes, indeed, and you are right. The Baptism is the 1st Sacrament a Catholic receives which open the doors to other Sacraments. Our Lord ordered the Apostles "baptize and then teach to OBSERVE ALL I have commanded (Matt 28:19-20)." This Divine order was given to His Church, and no other churches have Divine permission to give this Sacrament (because they reject His Church, and thereby reject also Our Lord). Therefore, the baptism given in protestant churches are invalid -- means they are not reborn in spirit at all. The Sacrament of Baptism removes the stain of the Original Sin, forgives personal sins committed up to that time, and restores the Sanctifying Grace in the soul. Without the sanctifying Grace, one cannot enter Heaven.
Interesting how you left the "Spirit" part out of it. Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit". Baptism is symbolic and it's not what saves you, being born again is a Spiritual transformation and it happens by faith alone which is why baptism of babies is not biblical. The Catholic church does not live by the Bible alone so they can claim to be the "divine universal only true" church of God and control people. Hum I know other organizations that do that (Mormons and Jehova Witnesses)
@@kaboom9081 Your understanding is completely wrong. The Baptism is one of the seven Sacraments Our Lord instituted in His One, Holy, Catholic (Universal), Apostolic Church, His Body. The Sacrament of Baptism makes the baptized a member of His Church (e.g., Acts 2:41, 9:18), removing the stain of the Original Sin and restoring the Grace (that was lost due to the Original Sin) in his soul so that God dwells in the soul. The dead soul before the Baptism is re-born and alive again through this Sacrament. People outside of the Catholic Church presume that they are re-born, but it is far from the Truth. 'Desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither the things they say nor whereof they affirm (1 Tim 1:7)' applies to them. Our Lord is the Savior of His Body (Eph 5:23), namely true members of His Church. Anyone, who truly believes and is destined to be redeemed, comes to His Church, where Our Lord remains always until the end of ages (Matt 28:20)!
@@hyeminkwun9523 Yes yes I know all these arguments because I was born in a Catholic home. But when I read scripture myself, I can tell you the catholic church is very close to a cult. The catholic church didn't even exist when Christ went back to heaven. I have so many issues with the catholic church including purgatory, rosary, elevating Mary to worship status, statues idolatry, the pope which by the way, the papacy didn't exist until the 300's and Peter was married and he never went to Rome. All catholic traditions come from Roman idolatry mixed with the Gospel. They don't walk by faith but what they can see which is opposite to what Jesus taught. Baptism is a step of obedience for all who have come to faith in Christ. The water is symbolic of our old self dying and the new person being born again Spiritually but both water and Spirit are separate things. There is NO holy water and it has no power. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is what has Power to regenerate a sinner into a child of God. Once you are sealed by the Holy Spirit you do NOT lose your salvation and no, your salvation does not depend on being a "member" of a self-proclaimed organized man-made religion. You make it sound like you're a member of an elite club. Yeah sounds pretty cult-ish to me. Jesus is a personal God and He wants a personal relationship with YOU, not become another Pharisee.
@@kaboom9081 I see that you deny the Truth taught by the Catholic Church and chose to believe protestant's instead. But what you stated on the Church history are completely wrong. Please chech the history carefully. Our Lord is the Head of His Church and remains, together with the Holy Spirit (John 14: 16-17), always with Her; therefore, the Catholic Church can never lie.
@@peacefulwife5199 Catholics believe that Jesus is truly present in the bread and wine. From time to time it happens that one of them, or both, really turn into flesh and blood, and some of those miracles have been examined by doctors and forensics experts, showing for example that the flesh is from the heart muscle of an individual that suffered a severe heart attack, but continued living for some time after that. Also there are some miracles that occured 800 years ago, which have been examined, and the people who conducted the examination thought that the flesh was still fresh.
Catholics once born again would leave the Catholic church and it's idolatrous by leading of Holy Spirit. I have known ex Catholics become born again and leave it all. I was baptised with an ex catholic on same day ,was amazing .
Mel Ashby // Was born again when I was 5 about to turn 6, always loved the Scriptures, served on a number of mission trips through the SBC and NAMB, and let me be the first to tell you that as a college student I came into the Catholic Church (actually as a Greek Catholic, something you probably haven’t heard of-we have married priests, confess to Christ in Confession, etc.) I never betrayed my background as an evangelical Christian, in fact I see myself as an evangelical Catholic Christian. I continue to go to non-denom and SBC congregations, even as I live the full life of a Catholic. I would love to talk with you about what brought me into the Catholic Church. It started with Muslims having visions of Christ and being sent, not just to Protestants, but also to Eastern Orthodox Christians to hear the Gospel and to come into Christianity. I was confronted with God saving people into Catholicism, and I couldn’t get away from it. A lot of Catholic beliefs and practices are either idolatry or true, there is no other alternative. So here I am, here I stand, I can do no other. Unless I can be shown by Sacred Scripture or by plain reason, I cannot do otherwise. My conscience is bound to the Word of God. And here I am.
@johnsteila6049 *Bible does not teach "water baptise to be saved". Bible teaches "believe in Jesus to be saved", John 3:16. And it's not by works, Eph 2:8-9. Roman religion teaches man made doctrine of Works Salvation anathematised by Scriptures. Gal 1:8-9.* you said Catholics are born again through baptism as taught by Jesus in The Bible. Who came up with your ideas?..
With all due respect: Every single Catholic is born again by virtue of its Baptism and Confirmation. The Councils are the process of discerning Holy Scriptures and providing truthful interpretation. The Church produced Holy Scriptures and called it The Word of God by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Hence you believe them to be Word of God because of God's only true Church, the Catholic Church. May God inspire your church to the one truth one day. God bless.
The Church produced Holy Scripture????? That's lie from the mouth of Satan! You should actually look at a Bible!! The Bible is the Word of God....He inspired it , wrote it. .it has nothing to do with the RCC! The RCC is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell! Here's Truth: "cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
We ARE SAVED (past tense), we ARE BEING SAVED (present tense), and we hope that we WILL BE SAVED (future tense). We are saved from our sins by faith alone, and we will be saved from death by faith with works, if we abide in Christ, doing the works that he tells us to do. Salvation past (Eph 2v8-9), present (1Cor 1v18), and future (Rom 5v9).
If we are not save by faith and good works it is by Gods grace like the man on the cross with Jesus. Today you will be with me in paradise said Jesus. By Gods grace
I think the gospel is for believers and unbelievers equally. I don't see any difference between salvation past and present as you do. After being saved we remain in need of forgiveness as much as before salvation, "God have mercy of me a sinner" Luke 18:13 is the cry of a Christian his entire life.
We are saved by GRACE. Not by Faith. Saved by Faith is works based. Our salvation is God’s work, all we bring is our sin and desperate need for a savior.
@Peter Cho Jesus indirectly tells one of the woman not to exalt anyone above God in Luke,“and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, "A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons."” - Luke 2:24 Mary is just like us she was a sinner,two dove was offered as a sacrifice for her as per jewish custom,.....“And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.” - Luke 1:47 says admit she's a sinner and needs a saviour,Mary was a tool to fulfil God's promise just like God used Paul,Peter for His kingdom,He used Mary to bring forth a saviour of this world...Romans 3:23 says we all are sinners “No one is good but One, that is, God.” - Mark 10:18 in this verse Jesus didn't tell except Mary,He straightly tell the people no one is good except God,and Jesus is God Himself
@Peter Cho sorry to say my friend instead of relying and trusting in God's word you are trusting the book which was made by catholic and from their perspective,look what Bible says 1.) Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines.For it is good that the heart be established by grace,not with foods which have profited those who have been occupied with them Hebrews 13:9 that we should no longer be children,tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind if doctrine,by the trickery of men,in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting..,,,another one 2Jn 1 (NKJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁹ Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. ¹⁰ If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 1Tim 6 (NKJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ³ If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, ⁴ he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, read the Bible yourself instead of reading cathechism book and for your kinf information Mary is not mother of salvation “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."” - Acts 4:12,stop living in delusion my friend satan wants you to believe in lies God doesn't have a mother,He is a Spirit Mary was mother of Jesus,God's human part....and please stop following man-made traditions “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.” - Colossians 2:8 lastly idol worshipping keeping Jesus statues is not God's will Paul strictly warns about this Acts 17 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²³ for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: ²⁴ God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. ²⁵ Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. ²⁶ And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, ²⁷ so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; ²⁸ for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.' ²⁹ Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising. ³⁰ Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,
When one is baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, one is born again. Being born again is not a guarantee of salvation. Only those who persevere to the end (Matthew 10:22) will be saved.
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. - Matt 23:9 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. - 1 Tim 2:5 It only takes 2 verses to prove Catholicism goes against the New Testament. If Catholics read their Bible instead of letting the priest read for them then they'll eventually find the truth.
What part goes against the Catholic faith? If you actually understand Catholic doctrine you wouldn't make such claims. There are also many verses where Jesus sets up the Catholic Church as his institution on Earth. I don't recall him setting up any other churches
If "call no man father" were taken literally you could not call your own natural father "father". Jesus is the One Mediator between God and the human race. That doesn't mean we can't ask people to pray for us, either people we know on earth or saints already in Heaven.
Knowing Thomas - Remember that in I Corinthians 4:14-15, the Apostle Paul refers to himself as “father”: "I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel" In addition, the context of Matthew 23 emphasises the sin of pride among the scribes and Pharisees. They loved to be called “teacher”, “father”, or “Rabbi,” but their pride pointed men to themselves rather than to God the Father. Jesus is condemning hypocrisy - not the actual use of the word 'father'. It sounds as though you love the Bible so I do hope you will read these passages carefully to understand the context and exactly what is being taught. God Bless.
@@candyclews4047 in that passage Jesus is talking about hypocrisy of the scribes and pharasees . He didn't literally say don't use the word father. You have to look at the context. You told me to look deeper but what are you looking at. God bless
If a Devout Roman Catholic believes in everything their religion teaches especially Faith + works then they aren't truly born again. If they got saved and are ignorant of the teachings, sooner or later when they learn about the truth they will leave.
@@georgepierson4920 *You do not sound intelligent. Roman religion was is not the Universal Church or Church CHrist founded like what Roman pagan religion claimed. Bible does not say so.* you said So, in order to be born again, you have to be ignorant of the Catholic Church, leave the Catholic Church, and then lie about the Catholic Church.
I am a Catholic Christian who believes Jesus Christ's salvation alone by grace is what saves us. I attend a Catholic Church but I know how we are really saved having once been in a Protestant Church. I think that this is why I was sent to the Catholic Church. Jesus Christ is the Head of the church period. I believe the Pope is a religious leader and nothing more. The word of God alone is what I use. I tell people I read my bible. Mary is not above Christ at all and I still believe this regardless. I pray that someday Catholics who don't know the truth will learn it and teach other Catholics the same. Baptism doesn't save us. Only Christ does. I don't believe in indulgences and never will adhere to it.
Amy P There may be a "shift" in the R.C. Church, but it's moving farther away from biblical principles towards hard left liberalism. Abortion is deemed acceptable by many Catholics and under the present Pope, homosexuality is no longer considered an abomination. The conservative R.C. stance exemplified by Pope John Paul I and the late Bishop Fulton J. Sheen has long since vanished.
@@Christian_Girl120 They have been saying the Church will fold for 2000 years, I think you should trust Jesus more and his promise not unless you think Jesus lied.
I don't believe you're really catholic. You've spouted garbage that Protestants spew endlessly about Catholicism, that are lies. For example, Catholics do NOT put Mary above Christ. That is a lie, and you would know that, were you Catholic.
He is clear on lies and misrepresentation of Catholicism .....Scripture is very clear when it says, “But nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Hab. 1:13 says, “You [God]… are of purer eyes than to behold evil and cannot look on wrong…” How many of us will be perfectly sanctified at the time of our deaths? I dare say most of us will be in need of further purification in order to enter the gates of heaven after we die, if, please God, we die in a state of grace. In light of this, the truth about Purgatory is almost self-evident to Catholics. The Old Testament people of God would not have called it “Purgatory,” but they did clearly believe that the sins of the dead could be atoned for by the living as I will now prove. This is a constitutive element of what Catholics call “Purgatory.” In II Maccabees 12:39-46, we discover Judas Maccabeus and members of his Jewish military forces collecting the bodies of some fallen comrades who had been killed in battle. When they discovered these men were carrying “sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear” (vs. 40), Judas and his companions discerned they had died as a punishment for sin. Therefore, Judas and his men “turned to prayer beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out… He also took up a collection… and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably… Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.” Rejecting the inspiration and canonicity of II Maccabees does not negate its historical value. Maccabees aids us in knowing, purely from an historical perspective at the very least, the Jews believed in praying and making atonement for the dead shortly before the advent of Christ. This is the faith in which Jesus and the apostles were raised. And it is in this context Jesus declares in the New Testament: And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:32, ). This declaration of our Lord implies there are at least some sins that can be forgiven in the next life to a people who already believed it. First of all, a careful reading of the text reveals the sin of these men to be carrying small amulets “or sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia” under their tunics as they were going in to battle. This would be closer to a Christian baseball player believing there is some kind of power in his performing superstitious rituals before going to bat than it would be to the mortal sin of idolatry. This was, most likely, a venial sin for them. But even if what they did would have been objectively grave matter, good Jews in ancient times-just like good Catholics today-believed they should always pray for the souls of those who have died “for thou [O Lord], thou only knowest the hearts of the children of men” (II Chr. 6:30). God alone knows the degree of culpability of these “sinners.” Moreover, some or all of them may have repented before they died. Both Jews and Catholic Christians always retain hope for the salvation of the deceased this side of heaven; thus, we always pray for those who have died. In Matthew 5:24-25, Jesus is even more explicit about Purgatory. Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny (Matthew 5:25-26). For Catholics, Tertullian for example, in De Anima 58, written in ca. AD 208, this teaching is parabolic, using the well-known example of “prison” and the necessary penitence it represents, as a metaphor for Purgatorial suffering that will be required for lesser transgressions, represented by the “kodrantes” or “penny” of verse 26. But for many Protestants, our Lord is here giving simple instructions to his followers concerning this life exclusively. This has nothing to do with Purgatory. This traditional Protestant interpretation is very weak contextually. These verses are found in the midst of the famous “Sermon on the Mount,” where our Lord teaches about heaven (vs. 20), hell (vs. 29-30), and both mortal (vs. 22) and venial sins (vs. 19), in a context that presents “the Kingdom of Heaven” as the ultimate goal (see verses 3-12). Our Lord goes on to say if you do not love your enemies, “what reward have you” (verse 46)? And he makes very clear these “rewards” are not of this world. They are “rewards from your Father who is in heaven” (6:1) or “treasures in heaven” (6:19). Further, as St. John points out in John 20:31, all Scripture is written “that believing, you may have [eternal] life in his name.” Scripture must always be viewed in the context of our full realization of the divine life in the world to come. Our present life is presented “as a vapor which appears for a little while, and afterwards shall vanish away” (James 1:17). It would seem odd to see the deeper and even “other worldly” emphasis throughout the Sermon of the Mount, excepting these two verses. When we add to this the fact that the Greek word for prison, phulake, is the same word used by St. Peter, in I Peter 3:19, to describe the “holding place” into which Jesus descended after his death to liberate the detained spirits of Old Testament believers, the Catholic position makes even more sense. Phulake is demonstrably used in the New Testament to refer to a temporary holding place and not exclusively in this life. I Corinthians 3:11-15 may well be the most straightforward text in all of Sacred Scripture when it comes to Purgatory: For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble-each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. No Christian sect I know of even attempts to deny this text speaks of the judgment of God where the works of the faithful will be tested after death. It says our works will go through “fire,” figuratively speaking. In Scripture, “fire” is used metaphorically in two ways: as a purifying agent (Mal. 3:2-3; Matt. 3:11; Mark 9:49); and as that which consumes (Matt. 3:12; 2 Thess. 1:7-8). So it is a fitting symbol here for God’s judgment. Some of the “works” represented are being burned up and some are being purified. These works survive or burn according to their essential “quality” (Gr. hopoiov - of what sort). What is being referred to cannot be heaven because there are imperfections that need to be “burned up” (see again, Rev. 21:27, Hab. 1:13). It cannot be hell because souls are being saved. So what is it? The Protestant calls it “the Judgment” and we Catholics agree. We Catholics simply specify the part of the judgment of the saved where imperfections are purged as “Purgatory.” The Protestant respondent will immediately spotlight the fact that there is no mention, at least explicitly, of “the cleansing of sin” anywhere in the text. There is only the testing of works. The focus is on the rewards believers will receive for their service, not on how their character is cleansed from sin or imperfection. And the believers here watch their works go through the fire, but they escape it! First, what are sins, but bad or wicked works (see Matthew 7:21-23, John 8:40, Galatians 5:19-21)? If these “works” do not represent sins and imperfections, why would they need to be eliminated? Second, it is impossible for a “work” to be cleansed apart from the human being who performed it. We are, in a certain sense, what we do when it comes to our moral choices. There is no such thing as a “work” floating around somewhere detached from a human being that could be cleansed apart from that human being. The idea of works being separate from persons does not make sense. (Thanks to C A ) 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@@hijohojo2868 I use the bible with all 73 books not the one with 66 books cos less than 500 years ago they cut out what they did not like -- you have not got all the picture !!
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YES. I was a devout catholic all my life, grew up in a catholic family, catholic school etc., i was even opus dei, and all that jazz. i was so devoutly religious that i would do all the things catholics would do EVERYDAY FOR YEARS - rosary, mass, confession, etc. goes without saying, i was in search of God all throughout, but even with that, i still didn't know Him, for who He really is. I learned that what I know about Him is only from who people say He is, without knowing Him myself. God put me, and continue to put me through so much, that in those process I learned so much about Him, about who He is, and about what He wants. After years of searching for Him, He revealed Himself to me, and He pulled me out of the religious wheel. it is A VERY PAINFUL PROCESS, much so for me because I was very devout, but now, I can fully say I am now Christian. this promise is from God Himself - Jeremiah 29:13 "If you seek Me, you will find me, if you seek me with all your Heart." this promise is an answered prayer from God. So YES, even the most devout catholic can be BORN AGAIN. but it will be a painful process, but God said, THE REWARD IS HIS.
Brother I dont mean any harm to you when I say this. What would you say to a Catholic who actually same as you had the LORD revealed to him her through the catholic faith. Yes your path was your own ... and im happy for you but also realise.. its your path... God works and reveals to us in ways that are personal and for many of us thats Catholicism ... and beautiful . God Bless
@@richarddeerflameit could only make sense if that person was sent by God to save people from inside the catholic church.
The vibes inside those churches feel so eerie and wicked I could not get inside again, some people have worse battles.
@@Oceantaikutsuu you need to come to my Catholic Church then ... not eerie... not wicked... but beautiful and all towards Christ and Love of community....
@@richarddeerflame I'm okay with my *christian* church, but thanks for the invitation.
@@Oceantaikutsuu pleasure was just making a point brother . Our Catholic Christian church is not as you explained at all hence why I said what I said. Be well
It’s the Holy Spirit who draws people into an awareness of their need for redemption through the finished work of Christ, even if they attend a church that teaches bad theology (Catholic OR PROTESTANT). Nothing trumps the power of the Spirit.
"How can you tell if someone is filled with the Holy Spirit? By how much they love the Catholic Church."
--St. Augustine
And so powerful is the Spirit, that once He is in a new believer, He will mature that person, make him thirsty for Scripture, and, sooner or later, take him out of any sick and idolatrous church.
Kendall....God is not found in false and apostate churches!
People need to hear the real gospel for the Holy Spirit to convict them...in false churches only false gospels are taught.
@@failam2918 actually if we look at the fact that God is Holy...He most certainly will not be in the churches of Satan where His gospel is perverted and heresies are taught!
@@failam2918 true believers will not have false and apostate beliefs ...
The Council of Trent declared:
“ . . . if they [men] were not born again in Christ, they would never be justified, since in that new birth there is bestowed upon them, through the merit of His passion, the grace by which they are made just . .
He laid down the conditions of salvation thus: "He that believeth and is baptized," said the Son of the Living God, "shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be condemned" (Luke 16:16). Here, then, Our Blessed Lord laid down the two conditions of salvation: Faith and Baptism. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be condemned - or is damned
Catholics not Born again Justin who died for his faith said in 151 A.D.
“As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true . . . are brought by us where there is water and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God the Father . . . and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit [Matt. 28:19], they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said,‘Unless you are born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]” (First Apology 61).
Around 190 A.D., Irenaeus, the bishop of Lyons, wrote, “And [Naaman] dipped himself . . . seven times in the Jordan’ [2 Kgs. 5:14]. It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [this served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old transgressions, being spiritually regenerated as newborn babes, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:5]” (Fragment 34).
In the year 252 A.D., Cyprian, the bishop of Carthage, said that when those becoming Christians “receive also the baptism of the Church . . . then finally can they be fully sanctified and be the sons of God . . . since it is written, ‘Except a man be born again of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God’ [John 3:5]” (Letters 71[72]:1).
Augustine wrote, “From the time he [Jesus] said, ‘Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:5], and again, ‘He that loses his life for my sake shall find it’ [Matt. 10:39], no one becomes a member of Christ except it be either by baptism in Christ or death for Christ” (On the Soul and Its Origin 1:10 [A.D. 419]).
Augustine also taught, “It is this one Spirit who makes it possible for an infant to be regenerated . . . when that infant is brought to baptism; and it is through this one Spirit that the infant so presented is reborn. For it is not written, ‘Unless a man be born again by the will of his parents’ or ‘by the faith of those presenting him or ministering to him,’ but, ‘Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit’ [John 3:5]. The water, therefore, manifesting exteriorly the sacrament of grace, and the Spirit effecting interiorly the benefit of grace, both regenerate in one Christ that man who was generated in Adam” (Letters 98:2 [A.D. 408]).
ONE LORD ONE FATIH ONE BAPTISM “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all” (Ephesians 4:4-6) The one baptism (and the only valid baptism), is the baptism of the one faith, the baptism authorized by the one Lord and practiced by the one body, the church of Christ. “For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body” (1 Corinthians 12:13).
"Are you born again-the way the Bible understands that concept?" If the Evangelical has not been properly water baptized, he has not been born again "the Bible way," regardless of what he may think.The Born Again Movement traces its origin early in the 19th century.Born Again Movement arrived at our shores in the late 1930’s and gained its popularity in the 70’s and 80’s which is considered the golden era of Born Again Movement During these years membership in various Born Again Churches increased because they where able to infiltrate mainline Protestant Churches and had lured nominal Catholics into their fold.However their steady growth ceases starting the year 1990 and their membership declined in the succeeding years. In the year 2000 Born Again Churches from the United States sent their missionaries in the Philippines to re-established the Born Again Movement and this time their primary mission is no longer to infiltrate Protestant and Catholic Churches but targeted the youth in schools particularly college students.Born Again evangelist does not want to discuss the history of the Christian church, in their Bible studies with their prospects, they intentionally limit the discussion to the Bible alone. They conceal the history of the Christian religion because it will show that their movement did not originate from the apostles. It is necessary for them to negate history because St. Paul warned us not to accept teachings that did not originate from the apostles Gal.1:8 and Born Again Movement evidently cannot trace the history of their church into the time of the apostles.Clearly Born Again evangelization has deception as its chief foundation and they even used selected passages from the Bible to deceive people. They usually start evangelizing by asking ambiguous questions such as “Are you saved?” or “Are you born again?”, if the person answers “no or I don’t know” they will tell you that you must accept Christ as a Lord and Personal Savior in order to be born again otherwise you will be damned to hell. And if the person will answer “yes” they will invite you to their church and worship with them. And if the person is a Catholic that would mean that you have to leave the Catholic Church and do away your Catholic beliefs about Mary, the Saints, confession etc. Let us be vigilant not to fall to the snares of the Born Again movement.
I’d be more interested if you write Rebuttals to Pastor John Piper’s points.
Since you didn’t, all you said has nothing, no value.
Long paragraph that doesn’t even drive a point.
Being a former Catholic, now a Christian, I am not sold to what you said.
Transubstantiation alone was a grave point by Pastor John Piper.
The thief on the cross beside Jesus was a bad bad bad man all his life, all he did was speak from his heart to Christ and the other thief and who ever else was listening....you know the rest of that story. Before he said who Jesus was, 99% would say he was heading for hell. On the other hand, when Peter cursed and said he didn't know Jesus, another 99% would say the same for him.
What I'm saying you have already guessed......Christ has the last say. For me I think there is corruption in many churches, and faulty teaching......I judge those church systems, but not the peoples hearts .....after all Christ said we don't know our own heart much less the next person. I can tell you one thing for sure my knees are bloody from stumbling.....and I will keep getting up and walking, only because I have JESUS.
Bless each one of you.
@Dominus Vobiscum that's not what it actually says..
Matthew 7:21-23
That thing is true, but (the man beside Jesus in the cross) he is saved because he fully trusted his all to Jesus.
Many of our Catholic friends trust more to their dead saints, Mary, traditions, purgatory, the sheer collectivity of their members, and even the pope.
Many doesn't really trust Jesus as their savior, but if some does, then it's good. But before you conclude, it's still not genuine, for they mix Jesus with their religion, to be saved we must ONLY believe the true Son of God and not our religion.
@Asaph Vapor I'm really sorry for Catholics, but Proverbs says we care more when we rebuke, we love more when we have the courage to give advice and guidance from the word of God.
I'm so frustrated at how many people are dragged into this "church" and its lies.
I felt the will to comment on this matter. It's like welcoming everybody even satanists to the true church of Christ. It'll be confusing if we say things like Catholics are also saved.
If they know that we preached like that they'll never come out from that religion.
We can say we can't judge their souls, but we can't more sure that they will inherit the kingdom of God by partaking in the lies.
Beautifully spoken, Peter.
I was a devout catholic for 35 years. Then I was born again and I’m now a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. Unless we’re born again we will not see the kingdom or enter the kingdom of God. The Catholics and Protestants need to be born again. No Protestant nor Catholic will be see heaven unless they call on the name of the Lord Jesus Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven and have eternal life with Jesus forevermore
If you ever were a Catholic you were born again !! John 3 ""Jesus said ; you must be born again in water and the Holy Spirit ' " One of the bible verses that confirm Catholic Baptism ... Catholicism does not depend on scripture but is more in turn with scripture than any of the 30 000 protestant versions !!
Catholicism does not depend on scripture
Catholicism is mystery Babylon
@@1234poppycat i was infant baptised according to orthodox traditions. One can argue that this is the true church and not Roman Catholic Even though i was baptised by water i was not saved nor i knew Jesus. Only when we are baptised by the Holy Spirit and are Baptised into Jesus we are saved Read the scripture THe fact that you insist on these non biblical doctrines just shows that you are not saved because if you would be you would have known where is the truth and what the bible is teaching is actually still here among us
@@felixnascimento7045 The fact that you insist on bible alone when the Bible does not point to that shows your understanding is poor ... Of course you thinking you are saved is delusional -- God decides on judgement day.
@@1234poppycat since I made this comment and now that I have read and saw other perspective I can see how I came across aggressive on my previous statement, I apologies for whoever I have offended and my impatience. I don’t fully know how god works because if we go to scripture we can find arguments for both sides. If I look at my personal experience and how I was saved then I am more convinced that you have to be a believer to receive the Holy Spirit. I am still searching for the answer. God bless you.
If you are Roman catholic, eastern orthodox, and or Protestant, if you trust and put your faith in what Christ did on the cross for you and believe upon him for salvation you will be saved Acts 16:31 Believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ and you and your house will be saved
Heresies are a disqualification
Galatians 5:20
You can not enter into his kingdom without being born again.. acts 4:12
@@jm7578 The Bible says that many conditions are necessary for salvation, that’s the point of this discussion..
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." -John 14:6
Catholic's don't deny that. Are you under the false impression that they do? If so you should disabuse yourself of that notion.
And Jesus is a more trustworthy God than Pastor John. John is leading you all astray, and like sheep, you all want to follow him, no matter where he leads you. It makes sense that he tells you to follow a Rabbi and the Law, rather than the views of the disciples in Acts 15, without realizing that in every session, he is being asked to compile his own Tables of the Law. God gave you brains, so use them!
@@douglaidlaw740 I don't understand why you replied like this, you seem angry. People will follow who they follow, John can be a helpful resource but Truth comes from the Word of God.
@@jvo3777 The Word of God, came from The Church…
@@johnsteila6049 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." The Word of God coincidently, comes from God the Holy Spirit. That's why it's not called The Word of Church.
What I would say to all Catholics AND Protestants (including myself) is...JESUS IS ENOUGH AND MORE THAN ENOUGH. He is everything! Stop adding to Him! When we are judged, He is all we will have to stand on. Our righteousness will be EVIDENCE of our standing on Him, not the means to our salvation. Trust me, we Protestants also have bad habits of resting and trusting in our good deeds too. Glorify God with the good deeds that He gave us to do, but only after salvation in Jesus, based on God’s working alone, do these come.
Ben you have fallen prey to the Propaganda that anyone who shows the false doctrine of Catholicism and it’s dangers of how God cannot use Catholics to spread His Truth does not understand what it means to be Born From Above..We in this day and age are not Protestants from the Reformation and We testify of our repentance of Sin and accept the provision of Salvation surrendering our Will To Gods Will just as Jesus surrendered His Will to the Father..We who do this receive the Holy Spirit who does not allow any to remain in lies and state that we can ignore them and follow Jesus..Jesus told Pontius Pilate My kingdom is not of this world and if it were then those who follow me would fight for me..Jesus told Pontius Pilate I came to show truth and those who follow truth follow me ..To remain in the Roman State religion that is manufactured by satan and even Hitler learned His Replacement theology from both Rome and Martin Luther an X Catholic Monk who did not understand the Covenant God has with the Jews..Pope Francis right now is declaring his allegiance to Palestine not Israel and the Eschatology of the Scriptures..Latinos are easily manipulated to not learn English the Universal language and Mexico that is an occult country and drug lordship government follow the teachings of Necromancy that opens the door to the occult and doctrines of demons.there is Santeria and much demonic activity and Occultist from Europe who have come to South America including the Nazis who retired in South America..We cannot step in front of Our Righteous God who judges all evil upon the face of the earth ..All Catholics need to leave the whore that sits on many waters ..and follows THAT OF WHICH IS GIVEN BY MAN RATHER THAN WHAT GOD HAS WRITTEN..HERE IS HOW WONDERFUL THE WORD OF GOD IS TELLING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING AND YES THE BIBLE IS A SCIENCE BOOK ALSO...ALL WISDOM COMES FROM THE WORD OF GOD TO EVERY GENERATION WATCH THE VIDEO I’VE POSTED..ruclips.net/video/bRfZ68LgcO0/видео.html
@@mikebrunet54 again it's not Jesus plus works it's Jesus alone that can justify.
JesusChristisTruth You don’t need to tell me It’s Jesus that Saved me. At the Bema seat Judgement I know our works don’t stand up. You do understand the Bema seat Judgement don’t you. I know what God means when He says you must be Born from above. Called and Chosen.
Again you say the same thing and I don’t need you to tell me about Justification..I am Called, Sanctified, Justified and will be given my heavenly Body in Heaven...as God says I am then Glorified in His Kingdom by Jesus welcoming me into His eternal sinless eternal dwelling..So I don’t know how you came to the conclusion that I believe Jesus plus works...I renounced the religion I was raised in which is Catholicism that teaches by the precepts and traditions of their clergy that is not Biblical to perform works ....to be pleasing to God...I am Obedient to God and don’t need you to explain the Grace and Mercy of Jesus Christ and His Word Tetelestai in which He has paid in full for my Salvation and all who the Father Gives to the Son do receive the Spirit that leads me to Gods Truth..do me a favor Jesus Christ Truth ...don’t post lies about me here...I never claimed to say anything about works that are done by us ..I told you about the Working of the Spirit through us that does not render Salvation but renders God using us to take His Truth to he Lost...Your debate with me is mute and again...Please just shut up.....You don’t know what your saying about my belief...I came out of Catholicism because God led me out.I can probably teach you more about the Word of God than you can with me...I have no respect for your comment and it is just plain ignorant..Go find someone who doesn’t know the True meaning of Grace ..Show me where I said we are Justified by our Works...Show me ...show the comment..
I don’t call myself a Protestant nor do I trust that what I do that is not by the Spirit will shown to me by God at my Bema seat Judgement..Catholics con’t even know what that is because the ones who Receive the Spirit leave the Gentile clergy behind realizing what they teach and their doctrine is not Biblical and contradicts the Word of God...there is only one way to fix it..and that is the to denounce the lies they have taught...ruclips.net/video/fnrxb1zAvWw/видео.html
I was raised Lutheran in a major city where the largest majority are Roman Catholics. Through a series of events I was saved on March 11, 1979 . At the time my then wife was going to a Southern Baptist Church. It was there that I was born again. We attended 2 smaller SBC churches. In 1982 we were divorced after 9 years of marriage at her choosing, not mine. A short time later I was offered a job opportunity in Central Florida and although I had begun to see someone else, I relocated to Florida alone. I began attending a large SBC church here where I have been a member for 41 years. I have sung in that churches choir for the last 20 years. During that time I have met several people who were former Roman Catholics who were/ are saved and changed from Catholism to Protestant. As far as I know these people successfully made a transition. One person comes to mind who is now deceased and I am confident that I will see him in heaven. However, I do not believe that once a person is saved that he can remain a Catholic or else he or she will be inherently discontent. I do not believe that Catholic doctrine and teachings will permit that person to remain in what I believe is a church denomination that is inconsistent with true biblical teaching. The Spirit of God will prompt that person to seek out a church that parallels true Christianity
Thank you for your testimony brother. That last statement is deeply true. If we are saved The Holy Spirit will guide us to truth no matter our circumstances. He can and will use broken people, broken churches, broken docturine, even broken translations, and guide our hearts and minds to his truth we see outlined his scriptures.
Facts
Divorce isn't true Christianity.
Hey man,, I just hope you are not one of those people blindly following the false doctrine of Calvinist interpretation!!!
@@hamidrabiipour9707 what's with all these denominatiins and isms? Are we not from the same loins of Abraham's faith. Ohh welll....
I was a Catholic, 40+ years, school, sunday school, confirmation the lot... but as a child i always thought;
Jesus was a teacher. The priest repreaents jesus. Why doesn't he teach me anything?
Since i felt the call of the holy spirit a year ago, i started reading the bible... and my fears were confirmed. Id been led astray! Id always believed in the church, and that i was a good Christian... i prayed to and revered the blessed virgin... then i actually read the bible, and the scales were lifted from my eyes.
It's great to be in Jesus. People of God seek him with all your heart and stay rooted in him.
May the Holy Spirit teach us always and let Jesus use us to do His Job in whis world.
*All the Kings and Queens in the line of King David in the tribe of Judah were Mother and Son and her Royal Role was to interceed for the Kings people and that's why Mary comes in apparitions*
The Catholic church has suffered persecution . First the Pagan Roman Empire wanted to destroy it, they failed,then Muhammad started Islam to fight the Catholic church, he failed, then the Reformation of Martin Luther tried ,it failed ,then communism tried and failed , then came free Manson's, they have failed , now the church faces the enemy priest within , he will fail, the church is suffering insults and , mockery from Satanists and those who call themselves Christians "protestants " , as we can see the devil has been changing style to try and destroy the Catholic church for 2000yrs , so if you call.yourself Christian and fight the Catholic church ask yourself if your beliefs were here when muhamad wrote the Qur'an to fight the Catholic church in 600AD, it is clear all protestants were not here but the only church the devil came against was qqThe Catholic church.Chose your side to be for Christ and his Catholic church or join the devil in his battle against the Catholic church. All anti Catholic church (RCC) originate from the devil himself whether you call yourself Christian or Moslem, Satanist, communist etc , your the same and children of your father the devil who seeks to destroy the Catholic church but this is what is true, the church is protected by the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and the gates of hell will not destroy it, after all of you have failed the Christ shall be triumphant and his church shall shine.I pray for you.
Who has a personal relationship with Christ than a Catholic who eats the body and drinks the blood of Christ in the Eucharist daily. Every protestant thinks they are the true believers yet they are divided like the Kingdom of satan himself.
@@balukuroben7458 Catholics have the Feast (the Holy Eucharist). Protestants look at the menu.
@@balukuroben7458 *Wow what an essay. Except those persecuted in early Church was Christians. Not catholics. BIBLE says so. Acts 11:26. Roman Church was founded in AD380. Not AD33.*
YOU:
The Catholic church has suffered persecution . First the Pagan Roman Empire wanted to destroy it, they failed,then Muhammad started Islam to fight the Catholic church, he failed, then the Reformation of Martin Luther tried ,it failed ,then communism tried and failed , then came free Manson's, they have failed , now the church faces the enemy priest within , he will fail, the church is suffering insults and , mockery from Satanists and those who call themselves Christians "protestants " , as we can see the devil has been changing style to try and destroy the Catholic church for 2000yrs , so if you call.yourself Christian and fight the Catholic church ask yourself if your beliefs were here when muhamad wrote the Qur'an to fight the Catholic church in 600AD, it is clear all protestants were not here but the only church the devil came against was qqThe Catholic church.Chose your side to be for Christ and his Catholic church or join the devil in his battle against the Catholic church. All anti Catholic church (RCC) originate from the devil himself whether you call yourself Christian or Moslem, Satanist, communist etc , your the same and children of your father the devil who seeks to destroy the Catholic church but this is what is true, the church is protected by the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and the gates of hell will not destroy it, after all of you have failed the Christ shall be triumphant and his church shall shine.I pray for you.
I have a Catholic teacher and I can see fruit in her life. It’s mind boggling because for most of my life, I’ve battled with the question “can a Catholic be truly saved?” We do prayer in class everyday and she’s genuinely seeking the Lord. She talks about it all the time. One time I came to her after class and asked her if she was saved, and she said yes and she understood salvation and started telling me how she got saved. I think God put her in my life to tell me that Catholics, though they do have false doctrine, can be born again. It’s all about JESUS, and I see JESUS shining in her life everytime she teaches. God spoke to me by bringing her into my life. Brother and sisters, let us pray for all Catholics that they may come to Jesus. That’s all that matters
Patrick Agustin : we catholics are Christians and already know Jesus Christ, I think you need to pray for people who don't know Jesus at all.
Lord God bless you
There are few more confusing topics than salvation. It goes beyond the standard question posed by Fundamentalists: "Have you been saved?" What the question also means is: "Don’t you wish you had the assurance of salvation?" Evangelicals and Fundamentalists think they do have such an absolute assurance. Scripture teaches that one’s final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell.
For many Fundamentalists and Evangelicals it makes no difference-as far as salvation is concerned-how you live or end your life. You can heed the altar call at church, announce that you’ve accepted Jesus as your personal Savior, and, so long as you really believe it, you’re set. Certainly, Christ did die on the cross once for all and has entered into the holy place in heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Christ has abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born "saved," with no need to be born again. Since we were not, since it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a time at which we come to be reconciled to God. And if so, then we, like Adam and Eve, can become unreconciled with God and, like the prodigal son, need to come back and be reconciled again with God, after having left his family.
Regarding the issue of whether Christians have an "absolute" assurance of salvation, regardless of their actions, consider this warning Paul gave: "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb. 10:26-29, 2 Pet. 2:20-21).
Related to the issue of whether one can lose one’s salvation is the question of whether one can know with complete certainty that one is in a state of salvation. Even if one could not lose one’s salvation, one still might not be sure whether one ever had salvation. Similarly, even if one could be sure that one is now in a state of salvation, one might be able to fall from grace in the future. The "knowability" of salvation is a different question than the "loseability" of salvation. Places where Scripture speaks of our ability to know that we are abiding in grace are important and must be taken seriously. But they do not promise that we will be protected from self-deception on this matter.
There are many saintly men and women who have long lived the Christian life and whose characters are marked with profound spiritual joy and peace. Such individuals can look forward with confidence to their reception in heaven.
Such an individual was Paul, writing at the end of his life, "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that Day" (2 Tim. 4:7-8). But earlier in life, even Paul did not claim an infallible assurance, either of his present justification or of his remaining in grace in the future. Concerning his present state, he wrote, "I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby justified [Gk., dedikaiomai]. It is the Lord who judges me" (1 Cor. 4:4). Concerning his remaining life, Paul was frank in admitting that even he could fall away: "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27). Of course, for a spiritual giant such as Paul, it would be quite unexpected and out of character for him to fall from God’s grace. Nevertheless, he points out that, however much confidence in his own salvation he may be warranted in feeling, even he cannot be infallibly sure either of his own present state or of his future course.
"Are you saved?" asks the Fundamentalist. The Catholic should reply: "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5-8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9-10, 1 Cor. 3:12-15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11-13)."
The same is true of us.
Thalia Rose, we need to know the truth about Jesus Christ by reading a good official Bible translation. We (all of us here on earth) need to read and study the Bible for ourselves, and think for ourselves about what we read -- then we won't be so easily misled by false teachers and false prophets. It's a matter of (eternal) life or death.
There are many, many Christian cults in this world, with money-hungry preachers who prey on their followers and mislead them, subtly introducing heretical doctrines. We are warned about such false teachers and false prophets several times in the Bible. The Roman Catholic Church has a number of unbiblical beliefs and customs.
Many Protestant brethren are coming back to the Church: ruclips.net/video/rlDPeZCHV8o/видео.html
Speaking as an ex roman catholic and now saved by the grace of God you cannot be saved and remain in the roman catholic church. How can you worship Mary like i did and pray to her and be saved.
As a former devoted catholic, I used to attend the mass 5 times a week, pray the rosary daily, a leader of a Catholic group/movement on my campus, and I was visiting the seminary to become a priest!
I once was questioned, If I am to die at this moment, where would I open my eyes afterwards, although I was a devoted catholic, I didn't have an answer, the person questioning me, opened the Bible at first John chapter 5, and as he read I was amazed, the passage actually speaks about the true believer of a Jesus and his assurance of a heaven with Christ, and if he doesn't say he has heaven for sure, he's explicitly saying that God is a liar!
After this encounter, I decided to study my bible daily, although I was a Catholic who reads his bible(which is very rare here in my country), and after a year of studying my Bible i saw how much the Catholic church is far from the Bible.
If you are a Catholic reading this I would suggest to you to search the following topics:
-The authority of scripture
-Justification and salvation: this is one of the most important one, how am I to be reconciled with God according to the Bible!? What must I do to be saved!?
-The mass and transubstantiation (Emphasis on Hebrews 10,the "lost" book in Catholicism)
-The role of saints in The Bible
-The role of virgin Mary in The Bible
-Purgatory and the Bible
-The pope :Is he biblical, is he even in the first church!?
-The first church and the history of the Catholic church, did it really start with Jesus or with Constantine centuries later!?
-The apocryphal books, why did they first show in mid 15th century?
-Baptism, Is it for the babies, does it have to do anything with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit!?
-The sacred mysteries and the Bible: why in a time of history they were 12 and 9 and 5 and now they stand at 7? Is the sacred mystery of confession biblical!?
"The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth." Psalms 145:18
God bless you all! MUCH LOVE!
Johnny G // I would love to address everything that you’ve mentioned, but I would like for you to look into whether Constantine really is the source of the Catholic doctrines, or whether they were in the Church before him or in spite of him. I want you to look into the Persian Church and the Mar Thoma Christians from India who though never under Roman rule, maintained the Doctrines which many would consider un-Christian, but which have always been held by the Catholic Church everywhere and at all times, even by the beloved Augustine.
Also, simply look to Armenia, and Greece, and Ethiopia, and everywhere the Apostles and those they shared the Gospel with were, and find Churches which hold to these Catholic beliefs where they left off.
Either the Catholic Church is the greatest conspiracy that ever was, between all the places in the world where the early Church was, without any record of “Great Apostasy”, or they’re right. There really is no in-between.
Christianity is not a religion, but a relationship with GOD
Ronie Jay Rondina // Here’s the thing. Faithful Catholics agree with you that Christianity is about relationship. That’s exactly why the Eucharist is compared to the Marriage Embrace. But on us being supposedly anti-religion because we’re Christian, read the following Scripture from James:
“Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their affliction and to keep oneself unstained by the world.” (James 1:27 NABRE)
The Scripture doesn’t condemn religion, it teaches pure and undefiled religion *in* and *from* relationship with God.
Alexander keep up the good work!!!!!! It is sad that Catholics like Johny G get caught off guard with those tactics and loose their Faith. The worst part is that Protestants don't really get the promised assurance. Quite a few (like my "Born Again" co-worker) will always wonder "was I truly 'Born Again.' " This will always be the case since the common Protestant understanding of James' Epistle is that this NT Book was written to show that that there are many who have a "false" faith. A former Protestant once put it this way, "Christians have 100% assurance that they are saved and I MAY be one of them." This Protestant never found the promised assurance and was quite troubled by that until he came home to the Catholic Church. Your brother in Christ, H S
My former Catholic brother. It shows just how weak you are! Or maybe, just maybe you were never meant to be a Catholic. As you quote the Bible so well, why do you hop, skip and jump relevant passages? Read Jn 6:64-66. Very pertinent to you. Also read 1 Tim 3:15 how many deniminations were there in St Paul's time? Which church was he addressing? What was the meaning of "church" in early christianity. You are nothing but flawed. You went for daily mass, not out of commitment but ritualism. Yes, many Catholics do just that! Why? They still want to be fed milk instead of meat. Read up or follow Dr Scott Hahn on RUclips. A great man of God bent upon discrediting the Catholic Church till one day his eyes of faith was opened to the truth AND HE BECAME Catholic. There are many highly intellectual persons of other denominations who have become Catholic. Why? Because they WERE SEARCHING FOR the Truth. And here you are, like Esau trading your birthright for what?? The only way out is repent to make a comeback. Are you keeping the Commandments of Jesus- Jn 14:15? By disobeying and leaving the Church. You know FULL WELL your bible, it is written Judas left "the Brotherhood" of Light and went into the "Darkness". Jesus, my friend, KNOWS His OWN, they KNOW His Voice and FOLLOW Him.
I wonder why a born again Christian would stay in the Catholic church with their false teachings. That doesn't make sense. If anything the holy spirit will call them from all things false, including Catholicism. This happened to me. Once your eyes are open, you can't ignore the false around you.
Christine Becerra, LMHC Revelation 18 actually talks about coming out of “Babylon”. And many say it is actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church like you said.
Jrod ProductionStudios Funny enough, this past year my mother invited me to a Catholic retreat. I went to bond with her and asked God for guidance because my heart was troubled. Later that night I had a dream with God saying to "Come out of Babylon!" "Come out of her now." It was amazing!
Christine Becerra, LMHC wow that’s a truly amazing story! Thanks for sharing! I used to (and still do) study for most my free time since becoming a Christian a few years ago. Early on some of my biggest challenges were Catholic doctrines. One night I was up till around 2 am. Having studied in my room for 5 1/2 hours that night, I was very troubled about the doctrine of the Eucharist. That night I had a dream, which I know was from God, which I still remember every detail of today. What I saw in the dream to my surprise I later found biblical support for, and since then, have been doctrinally sound. God can truly work in marvelous ways.
Jrod ProductionStudios Would you mind sharing the dream?!
Christine Becerra, LMHC haha hopefully I don’t type too much here but this is what I saw.
It started out a normal church service. I was sitting in the middle. It was a new church I had not attended, I was away from home. My dream started at the end of the service. (Mass). Everything started to wrap up, and as I looked around I noticed something I hadn’t before. The building was beautiful, grand, huge. Then the Pastor said it was time to start handing out communion. Everything was normal, and I got a little piece of the bread in my hand as it was passed out to me. Just then the pastor said “and we know that this is the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. There are some in the world who deny this, who will spend a great long time suffering in the afterlife.” I still remember those words to this day. Just then I knew something was wrong. This wasn’t the Church I knew. It seemed to have changed throughout the very service. All of the sudden the Eucharist, bread became sticky. But looked good to eat. It stuck harder and harder to my hand, but looked even better and better to eat. I refused it, and put it down, knowing that this congregation taught that it was the actual body and blood, and essentially “worshipped it.” I then looked up and noticed the church was black. Literally. Everything was dark. The service itself took place in the middle of the night, there was no electricity in the building, only dimly lit candles in the window sills. The Pastor himself (Priest) I now noticed was also wearing black. And the congregation seemed the have been sunk back into the shadow of darkness. There was no real light given off at all. It was an eerie feeling. I all of the sudden felt a call, to flee from that church. I slowly got up, and started for the only light I saw, at the back of the church, I felt as if it was calling me. Just then, several others got up. One by one, the very few of us left, and followed the light. I remember just walking outside into the night with this light and the fellow believers and then I woke up.
To me the dream signified many things. The service of the church was the entire church history. And it once started out right but fell away. It took false doctrines to finally awaken me, such as the Eucharist being the actual body. The whole time I was asleep figuratively, unaware of what was happening in the church. To me the few leaving was the Protestant reformation, following only the light who was Christ. And not he authority of the church. Most of the dream seemed to be centered around communion, the doctrine that I was struggling with. I believe this is because that is probably the most fundamental doctrine to all Catholics. Overcoming that doctrine helped me see the true light. I was appalled from the dream, but found comfort in the scriptures as I read them the following weeks, which almost seemed to outline my exact thoughts throughout the dream. I could tell God was telling me something.
Sorry I typed so much.
God bless :)
@WC3isBetterThanReforged *People who read the Bible would know Roman religion has nothing to do with God and His Words. Roman religion contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!*
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the physical blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18.
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”.
11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10.
13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
Romans 9: 15 "I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy "
yes The context on this passage is that Jews did not support the idea that they were not the chosen one and Paul makes it clear that not everyone from Israel belong to israel and that the tru descendants of Abraham are not the jews but people who are by faith in Christ 30What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; 31but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. 32Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works.
this is the decision God made to include the Gentiles into the tree as new branches
No, no, no...let’s be clear about what Christ are we talking about.
The Jesus in the Quran? The Jesus in the New Age movement? The Jesus in the Council of Trent? The Jesus who failed at the cross according to Pope Francis? Or the Biblical Jesus?
I’m sorry, but once I read the Bible by myself looking for the Way to be saved, all the Roman Catholic doctrine was destroyed in a second. 45 years against one page in the gospel of John and one verse in the book of Romans and that was it.
When thousands of Roman Catholics accept the biblical truth about the substitutionary atonement they quit the Roman Catholic Church the same day. In other words, once they fully accept the righteousness of Christ they leave behind the self righteousness doctrine in a blink of an eye. Why? Because they can see for the first time the Grace of God and the immensity of the work of Jesus at the cross. Because they can experience for the first time the meaning of being born again and how the Holy Spirit change their lives completely to serve only One Name: The Name above all names; the Name of the Lion of the Tribe of Judah; King of kings and Lord of lords; the Name of Jesus Christ. The Jesus of the Bible. The Word of God. The Way, the Truth and the Life. Our Lord and my Savior & the Glory of God.
AllThingsHaveBecomeNew from one born-again Christian to another this touched me deeply brother!!
Artifact Hunter thank you my brother and may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace. In Jesus name I pray amen.
Pope Francis did not say Jesus failed at the cross. Francis said that in the eyes of the world Jesus failed at the cross.
"We would believe in him only if he would come down from that cross," said the Pharisees.
All Thin, Praise the Lord for the light He had given you.
Amen
I believe if you are saved while in a Catholic Church, sooner or later you'd have to leave and find a Bible-believing church.
It doesn't matter what you believe - Jesus will judge you on whether you followed His church, or protested against it. Let me illustrate this... to what church do you belong and when was it started?
Okay, my friend so if this saved Catholic asked you show me the Bible believing church because I want to leave the Catholic church ,which church would you show this Catholic Christian ?
@@balukuroben7458 Generally speaking, besides my own church, I would recommend any independent, fundamentalist Baptist church.
@@johnbrowne3950 Out of the many 30,000+ Christian sects which criteria do you use to chose" yr own & the fundamentalist Baptist " who started yr own denomination ,in which year ?who started the fundamentalist Baptist church and when? Have you bothered to ask why you chose these two?
@@balukuroben7458 The Baptist Church was born out of adversity and persecution, mostly by the RCC. The origin of our church is Jesus Christ and the Word of God (the Bible.) Our church is based on belief in Jesus Christ, God the Father and the Holy Spirit and the Word of God only. We believe only believers were to be baptized by immersion and therefore reject infant baptism.
We believe salvation is a gift by the grace of God and that our justification is by faith alone and that all who are saved are eternally secure.
We believe that a church is a local assembly of saved, immersed believers called out from the world by our Lord Jesus Christ and separated unto Him.
We believe the Bible alone, all 66 books, is our only authority for our faith and practices.
We believe in the priesthood of all believers who have the right and the access to come to the throne of grace.
We believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, His virgin birth, sinless life and substitutionary death, bodily ressurection, assension to heaven and His personal, visible return.
We believe in the Holy Spirit who convicts us of sin; who regenerates, sanctifies and comforts those who believe in Jesus Christ.
Baptists reject salvation by works and the re-sacrificing of Jesus Christ and therefore the RC Mass is blasphemous.
There is no such place as Purgatory, only Heaven and Hell and Jesus Christ, not a pope, is the head of the church.
Baptists believe there is only one mediator between God and Man, the man Christ Jesus.
All of these beliefs are in the Bible and I will list them if you wish.
@JustAskingQuestions8571 *"Fall away" does not prove "losing salvation". I am sure you know the difference. Israel fell away. But Bible says Israel will be saved. Zec **11:28**, Romans 11:26.*
*This is not the strongest argument for Roman Catholic Church. Why? In history, Roman religion was called Church of Rome. It was merely a local church in it's previous form. Not the Universal Church/Church which it loves to claim. Bible defines Church as "all local churches + all believers". Why would a local church called Church of Rome be the Church?*
*As for authority, Bible says even Church relies on Scriptures as the final authority. Jesus and APostles, even NT Church took doctrines from Scriptures only and not from any other source. There are 180+ verses that showed that.*
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Very comforting. The only issue is, what if once saved always saved isn't true? I think the Bible is clear that you can "fall away" even if you've sincerely professed faith, and Hebrews Chapter 6, in fact, even suggests that we may never be able to be saved again if we truly fall aw
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Who has the authority I can rely on to tell me for sure if I am allowed to remarry? And wouldn't it make sense that Jesus wanted us to have an institutional body here on earth to adjudicate cases like mine so that people like me can have peace of mind about whether they are allowed to remarry and if their remarriages are valid or are adulterous?
This, I think, is the strongest argument for the Catholic Church. Christianity in practice seems unworkable unless there is a valid authority here on earth that isn't biased in favor of our own interests and that can help us live out the commands of scripture in a Godly way.
I was Catholic for 30 yrs. got Saved, born again, stay Catholic for about 3 months. Now in a Bible-believing church. Catholic is a very carnal church when you take away daily Bible teaching, you make things up. The Word is used for training/ correction in righteousness, rebuke, instruction. Take that away what do you have? Studying the word gives me confidence in what I believe.
If you were Catholic, you'd know that in a three year cycle, you have read the entire Bible during the Mass, right? Homilies are most always written to clarify the Bible readings of the day. And you also would know that Catholics do not 'make things up". They are teaching from the original Bible that was canonized before Luther and King James decided to do re-writes and edits. LOL.
Because of my parents deep love for our Lord and faith, it definitely helped me to be compassionate and observant. I was 8 years old when I asked Jesus to come into my life. It's funny because I was watching Jim and Tammy Baker of all people talking about salvation! I wanted to experience what they said would happen to me. I was older mentally for my age, I guess growing up as an only child and reading I just understood this was something that I truly wanted. My grandmother was living with us and she was pentecostal, I went to church with her twice. It was kind of scary but interesting. Well, I did the sinners prayer and I remained in a state of prayer all day before I went to bed, I prayed one more time. That night I dreamed and lightning struck in front of me and the holy spirit filled me and I heard the voice of God. I saw the bright light people have spoken of in near death experiences and while God spoke to me, his voice vibrated off of my chest his voice sounded like oceans, a lion speaking his voice was ancient I shared the dream with my parents and they did not believe me, my grandmother was gone so I couldn't tell her.i was so depressed and for years I had an up and down relationship with God. I finally left the Catholic church for various reasons. I have no doubt my parents know the Lord and accepted him as thier savior. Mom spoke of an experience that happened to her at a retreat. My relationship with Jesus is ongoing and stronger than ever but I have a long road ahead. Please pray for me so that God will complete his work with me.
We all need to repent and be born again in Jesus name the name above every other name for the remission of our sins jesus himself said unless were born again we wont enter into the kingdom. Only trust in Jesus for your salvation. But if you love him you will do it and if you love him you will work for him. He really does love us more than we even know. He's Coming back soon!! Time is almost up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pray to be pleasing to God in all your ways. Seek God in ALL your ways and he WILL direct your path. God does not lie
*Wow that's awesome encounter with GOD!*
@@browncony3897 I have been reading my new Bible from the beginning, I have never read it all the way through. It's incredible the affect it has had on me. I find myself looking at how he spoke to others and how they describe him. To hear his voice was something I will never forget. I remember saying to myself, "he is ancient." Later on I heard him referred to as the Ancient of Days. For the rest of my life I never saw things the same way. I feel and see things almost like superman vision, I feel the core of everything, every living thing. I'm always crying when I pray because I cannot contain my emotions. I can also see when someone has a demon oppressing them. When I fell away from God I felt like death. I'm much closer to God than I have ever been and reaching out to others. I do need prayers for God to keep me on the good path and give others Hope, that's what he wanted me to do.
@@departureready8976 *Yes that's what Catholics do not experience!*
Cony I have experienced that and I am a devote Catholic, please don't assume that and lead others assure. This dividing of the church is what divides people from God
God bless the One True Apostolic Church.
Christ's Most Holy Catholic Church welcomes all who come home.
@no_prisoners6474 *Bible teaches "believe in Jesus to be saved", John 3:16. Please start by reading Scriptures. Not believing in "everything Roman priests claim". You feeling sad has nothing to do with me. It has to do with you not reading Scriptures for the truth. Bible says God's Word is truth. Jn **17:17**.*
Act 16:30 And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
Act 16:31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
Of course Catholics are born again of water and the spirit (cf. John 3:5, Ephesians 4:4-5) just as Jesus taught.
Have you heard the common joke in Italy that only Italians could have taken the teachings of Christ and the Apostles and turned it into the RCC (a religion that the Early Church would have found unrecognizable). No other Europeans would have been so freely "creative" or "imaginative". Even the Italians know that Romanism is not Christianity.
@@annefranciselizabeth3840 Touche.
Anne Francis Elizabeth right
Correct Bro . They are the real ones that contradict to each other they cannot show consistent belief system and untenable to defend they are more ignorant in interpreting the scripture fully ,in short they are false born again.
Roman catholics don't even know what born again means ...if they would they would fllee Satan's church the RCC!
The Roman Catholic denomination is not the same as Catholic Church. All born again believers regardless of denomination are Catholics. Not all Catholics in a denominational sense are born again let alone have a relationship with Christ. They tend to put their identity in their denomination rather than Christ. They are notorious for this.
The Catholics were the first Christians in unity with the Petrine Primacy and I identify with both Christ and His Church. I'm also born again the biblical way; by water and Spirit which is baptism.
If you are not in unity with the Bishop of Rome, then you are not Catholic.
@@GR65330 *Yes only unlearned Romanists who do not read the BIBLE say these. There is not word "catholic" in the BIBLE. So how can Catholics be the first believers? All false claims. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish and Christian. Acts 11:26, Acts 2. Not roman, not catholic.*
YOU:
The Catholics were the first Christians
@@GR65330 *Except again only unlearned Romanists who do not read the BIBLE say these. BIBLE does not say we need to unite with "Petrine Primacy or Roman church". All false claims. BIBLE says believers only need to agree with GOD and HIS WORD. BIBLE did not say "Roman Church = the Church Christ founded". All false claims. Wake up Romanists who are deceived!*
YOU:
in unity with the Petrine Primacy and I identify with both Christ and His Church.
@@GR65330 *Who wants to be in the Apostate Church anyway? BIBLE speaks of Roman cult in Rev 17-18 as the APostate Church to be destroyed in the Last Days.*
YOU:
If you are not in unity with the Bishop of Rome, then you are not Catholic.
@@jediv3381There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, and none of your ahistorical heresy will change that
If they get saved they should come out of the Catholic church .
Out of Babylon
@christsavesreadromans1096 none in it more like
Disagree, the Catholic Church needs saved and the unsaved.
@@quicktoevil maybe but we're told not to fellowship with unbelievers
@@ianwilliamson2980 maybe we're thinking two different things here? Where is it written that 'we should not fellowship with unbelievers?'
@LorenzoMasterConnector *You must be from another false church to say that. 95% of RC doctrines did not even come from Scriptures. Do you even read the Bible to say that?*
1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary, veneration of saints and statues, celibacy of priesthood, canonization of saints, limbo, submit to roman pope to be saved, devote to roman Mary to be saved, be in, Roman religion to be saved, baptise in Roman baptism to be saved partake Roman sacraments to be saved, baptism of blood , calling Roman pope Lord God or equal to God
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Catholic Churches are biblical. Everything they do and day is found in the Bible
I personally raised a catholic, was stricken in my heart and saved after going to a Good Friday service. The Lord uses many opportunities to reach his people.
Walking with the Lord is more than a good friday mass..God did not give us the Mass Rome has..Rome also gave the World the Gregorian Calendar and the Pseudo Science you are taught in school...They have also taught Theistic evolution that ignores the Book of Genesis...Cheick out your clergy and how many crimes against humanity they have committed and hidden....here is a history of your Papacy also...ruclips.net/video/fnrxb1zAvWw/видео.html
L L there is a weird thing going on with this heart metaphor. A true conversation is when you learn the truth. Gods word says it is the Truth that sets you free. The Roman state religion has killed and hidden criminals for 1700 years. What Catholicism has taught you is all lies. Good Friday was not when Jesus died on the Cross and He did not Rise on Sunday. The Bible teaches us that Gods calendar from the beginning of time is from Sundown to Sundown. Jesus was put on the cross on Thursday morning and was risen by Midnight on Saturday. He was first seen By Mary Magdalene on the first workday of the week we now call Sunday morning.
German Giant I agree.I don’t just celebrate it. I share with the lost and especially those who claim Jesus is a myth. The Bible is proven to be supernaturally Penned by God. God breathed. We who are born from above are Justified by faith. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
@@mikebrunet54 There is no such thing as a Good Friday mass. It is the one day of the year on which there is never a mass.
Dennis Campeau I’m not a Protestant. God judges all. God would never Send any to conquer land and torture any that disagreed with False doctrine. You don’t know the religion in which you were raised.. your Roman state religion is still guilty of hiding criminals to this very day. You know very little of when the papacy actually began. If Peter was the first Pope the why was their 100’s of years before Rome instated their first Pope. Jesus call Simon a small stone that is what Petros means.
What a hopeful answer. Thank you. Amen ❤️
One problem here then is if we apply this same logic that he dose and say you can be a devote Catholic & be saved then so can a Jehovah's witnesses & even Mormons be saved & stay a morman or a jw. This is totally wrong. If a person knows Jesus He will know that what Roman Catholics practice & believe about salvstion , mary, the Eucharist ritual, praying to saints & much more things is totally wrong. A person if truly born again wouldn't stay in a cult like roman Catholic church is.
I agree. I had to leave the Catholic Church after reading Exodus 20. I could no longer worship God the way man wants to. We kissed statues and prayed to the virgin Mary as our mediator. This was done as a group I started to tell my friends and they would point to tradition rather than the word of God. So I left the Roman Catholic deception.
@ALEX W. I understand that as a minor you are in your parents care and you are answerable to them. However I would advice you to consider the scripture that says "children Obey your parents in the Lord " notice the phrase "in the Lord" . If your parents are Godly and what they are asking you to do is not against Scripture then for sure do as they say & don't dishonour them. However if what they say is against God's will for example, to murder someone then don't obey them but obey the Lord. I'd leave the Catholic church as soon as you reach an age where you are allowed to do your own thing. Remember kids have sex outside of marriage, drink & party while they are under age & still in thier parents care they fight for what they think is thier right & what's important to them even though parents say don't do it. So why not fight for what God says is right and make a stand in love let them know what your convictions are concerning the word of God & the Church. You may be the one God uses to bring light to thier lives too. People can marry at 16yrs old so why can't you leave an organisation that's not of the Lord?? . God bless u and be with you.
@@robertgomezjr2640 Praise God I'm happy for u 💙
Agreed. If He loves us, how could He ever leave us in that degree of falsehood....
@@Standing_on_the_word Excellent advice. 😊
*Romanists can never explain why BIBLE says SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS!*
*BIBLE SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED NOT BY WORKS, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST*
( Only unbelievers and Jews under Mosaic Law are judged by works for salvation. Romans 2, Rev 20:13. Christians are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2:8-9. )
● 2 Tim 1:9 …. saved NOT according to our WORKS.
● Eph 2:8-9 … saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS.
● Titus 3:5 …. saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Gal 2:16 …. not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED!
● Rom 4:6 … Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH
● Rom 11:6 … IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE
● John 3:16 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Acts 16:30-31 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Eph 2: 8-9 … salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:1-2 … justified NOT BY WORKS!
● Rom 4:3 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:4 … WORKS are debts
● Rom 4:5 … he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED
● Rom 4:5 … God justifies the ungodly,
● Rom 4:5 … FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:8 … imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:11 … Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH
● Rom 4:14-15 … Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation.
● Rom 4:22 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:22 … RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS!
● Gal 2:16 … justified not by Works of the Law, but BY FAITH IN CHRIST!
● Gal 2:21 … if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.
● Gal 3:1-5 … Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)?
● Gal 3:1-5 … Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law?
● 2 Cor 5:21 … GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.
● 1 Pet 2:24 … Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS)
● John 1:29 … Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS)
● Luke 23:43 … the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS!
6:12 I don't think Scripture supports this position, because John 6 says "52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” 53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.” And 1 Cor 11 says, "27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself." And there are so many quotes of Early Church Christians affirming that the Eucharist is the body of Christ here: www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html . And every Christian believed the Eucharist was the body of Christ for the first 1500 years of Christianity. And if this position is correct, how would the Eucharist miracles be explained that are listed in this video: ruclips.net/video/soCkftBBsBo/видео.html ?
@Anytime Homeboy *Not in the cannibalistic sense like Roman cult believed though.*
YOU:
And every Christian believed the Eucharist was the body of Christ for the first 1500 years of Christianity.
ME:
*Not in the cannibalistic sense like Roman cult believed though.*
@@browncony3897 Cannibalism is the literal eating of human flesh jesus was giving us his body and blood beyond the human flesh and blood and that is what Catholics believe - which is entirely scriptural (John 6 + 14 other scripture)
@@1234poppycat *1. BIBLE does not say eating flesh is not cannibalism. BIBLE says communion is spiritual. Not physical. 1 Cor 10:3-4. 2. John 6 does not say its physical.*
YOU:
Cannibalism is the literal eating of human flesh jesus was giving us his body and blood beyond the human flesh and blood and that is what Catholics believe - which is entirely scriptural (John 6 + 14 other scripture)
@@1234poppycat *Which is totally unbiblical. BIBLE does not say "when roman priests pray, wafer becomes Jesus, Jesus comes down from heaven to be eaten by Catholics"!*
YOU:
what Catholics believe - which is entirely scriptural (John 6 + 14 other scripture)
Have you ever talked to a Roman Catholic or a Catholic theologian?
Beautiful question
My husband is a cradle Catholic, went to Catholic school, I went to RCIA and was a Catholic for 7 years. Now I understand after being born again, that Catholicism has satanic doctrines. Read the new testament for yourself please, every word, and believe what you read.
I've recently converted from the protestant faith to catholicism.
The beliefs about baptismal regeneration and the real presence in the eucharist are older than scripture and coherent with scripture (Christ says his flesh is real food, and Paul tells us we must discern the body when we eat). Read the Christians who knew the apostles and its clear they beleived that Christ was truly present in the bread and wine. I don't care about winning an argument on the internet, but each week I go and meet with the real Christ. I want to bring my protestant brothers and sisters with me.
While some of these points are engaging with the catholic faith as it actually is, many are engaging with just a misunderstanding. Indulgences do not forgive sin as protestants understand it. The catholic faith teaches that those in a state of grace are completely forgiven of sin by no merits of their own. Catholics distinguish between the eternal consequences of sin (hell) and the temporal consequences of sin (broken relationship, dicispline, a hindered relationship with God etc) it is these temporal consequences that are addressed by indulgences. These indulgences are spirtual practices that mend our relationship with God and have the approval of the church. Similarly purgatory is not a second chance, its is, instead a period of purification (like the fire mentioned in 1 Corinthians 3:15). It also addresses only the temporal effects of sin. All who enter purgatory are heaven bound.
As an ex Catholic, I'll add the Eucharist is more than what Pastor John said: a mere man, a priest claims to be sacrificing again the Lord Jesus! It's such arrogance and blasphemy. But everything about R. Catholicism is glorifying man and woman above God. That sums it up. I do agree though that people can get to know Christ even in this deeply sinful church, but most will leave it.
Nobody is claiming to sacrifice again Jesus. Where did you read that?
*Difference between Roman false gospel and the true gospel of the BIBLE*
*Roman false gospel says:*
- Christ's Work at the Cross is insufficient. One needs to do something to add to the Work of Christ done at the Cross to be saved.
- Be obedient and do works of love to be saved.
- Conditional love of GOD: GOD demands His children to do His biddings first before saving them.
*True gospel of the BIBLE says:*
- Christ's Work at the Cross is all sufficient. One needs to do nothing to add to the work of Christ to be saved.
- Believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:30-31. Good works come naturally as true believers. Eph 2:10.
- Unconditional love of GOD: GOD loves His children to save them when they were yet sinners.
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Romans 5:8
(KJV) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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(NKJV) But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
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(Brenton)
(DRB) But God commendeth his charity towards us: because when as yet we were sinners according to the time.
(ISV) But God demonstrates his love for us by the fact that the Messiah died for us while we were still sinners.
(KJVA) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
(Murdock) God hath here manifested his love towards us. Because, if when we were sinners, Messiah died for us;
(ASV) But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
(Latin) commendat autem suam caritatem Deus in nos quoniam cum adhuc peccatores essemus
(YLT) and God doth commend His own love to us, that, in our being still sinners, Christ did die for us;
So you even believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for you ? I thought you don't!How can you believe a thing like this . Pagans believe in human sacrifice for sin , the true God of the Torah hates human sacrifice , how can you believe in this ? You mean the God of heaven did practice child sacrifice to save you? The Romans and other pagans believed similar things , infact their gods died for them & lived on ,why do you believe the same? Don't you think this is paganism of your faith? If this is not paganism ,then all the other things that the church believe can never be paganism as you suggest ,If NOT then the only logical conclusion is : The Bible is not true because the Catholic church corrupted it , as Islam & Muhamad in the Qur'an says : God is not the Father of Jesus , Jesus did not die for our sins ,No man can die for another man's sin. There is no unity of the Father , Son & Holy Spirit . Say no to trinity .
@@balukuroben7458 *You are full of crap. 1. You do not even believe in the BIBLE. Jesus Christ did die for our sins. BIBLE says so. Nothing to do with pagans or human sacrifice. 2. Islam is heresy. Islam asked Muslims to follow the Book of Christians. Do you follow? No you dont. Islam preaches heresy of "Jesus did not die" and "Jesus is not GOD". 3. Islam is just a worship of Moon god. Just some pagan ancient mesopotamia religions. Nothing to do with GOD of the BIBLE or Abraham Isaac Jacob!*
@@balukuroben7458 *Yusuf Ali is a Muslim scholar who translated the Quran.*
Yusuf Ali documents that the Koran is a book of myths, fables and fairy tales.
bible.ca/islam/islam-koran-fairy-tales-yusuf-ali.htm
Yusuf Ali documents that the Koran is a book of myths, fables and fairy tales.
Pre-Islamic Sources for material in the Quran
Yusuf Ali is a Muslim scholar who translated the Quran.
"Many scholars are agreed that the stories found in the Qur'an were derived from the legends and myths of Arabs, Jews, Persians, and Christians. In other words, they did not come from heaven but from earth. Their source is not Allah but human story tellers. This is why many scholars view the Qur'an as a fanciful book of ancient tales. This will not come as a surprise to anyone who actually reads the Qur'an. It is primarily composed of old fables and myths which convolute the names, dates, events, and places of biblical and secular history into incoherent fantasies. Such fantastic stories as the youths in the cave, the she camel, the monkey people and the night journey are only faint garbled reflections of the original tales.
Example: Yusuf Ali's translation and commentary on the Qur'an is well known and accepted all over the world:
In his comments on the text, he traces the stories of the Qur'an back to the original Arab, Jewish, Persian or Christian legends from which they were derived.
He does not deny the earthly sources of the Qur'an. Instead, he documents them!
If the Qur'an is a confused and jumbled record of ancient "stories" drawn from the various nations conquered by the Arabs, this becomes the most serious threat to Islam's claim of divine revelation. Maududi was right. Once we identify the sources of the Qur'an, it is no longer a revelation."
Surah
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Source of story according to the footnotes and comments in Yusuf Ali's Translation and Commentary of the Koran.
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Jewish And Arab legends
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@@balukuroben7458 *Absu rditie s in Islam*
3. Mo Ha ma d makes gal bride Aisha wipe his se men from his clothes. (?Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229)
4. Mo Ha ma d killed pubesc ent l ittle b oys. Ordered them to drop their clothes. Boys with pubic hair are cut in the throat whether combatants or not. (Abu Dawud 4390)
5. Muslims are promised 72 Ho uris (vi rgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys if they go to heaven. (Hadith Al-Tirmidhi in the Book of Sunah volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah, chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise)
6. Sper m is made from between the backbone and the ribs? (Quran 86:7). We all know sperm is made in the tes tic les.
7. According to Muh amm ad, the embryo spends 40 days as a drop of sperm, 40 days as a clot, and then 40 days as a piece of flesh. In reality, by day 56 the fetus is essentially a complete, though tiny, human being with all organ systems in place, and all tissues developed. (Sahih Bukhari 4:54:430, See also: Sahih Bukhari 4:55:549, Sahih Bukhari 8:77:593, Sahih Bukhari 9:93:546, and Sahih Muslim 33:6390)
8. Gender is not determined until 80 days after conception. It is actually determined AT conception and the sex organs develop around the 6th week (as opposed to the 12th). Sahih Bukhari 8:77:594, See also: Sahih Bukhari 4:55:550, and Sahih Musli m 33:6397
9. Child inherits appearance from the parent that discharges first during sex. (Sahih Bukhari 4:55:546). Obviously untrue.
10. Satan pees in your ears if you oversleep? Sounds like cartoon? (Sahih Bukhari 2:21:245).
11. Non-Mus lims eat in 7 intestines while Mus lims eat in 1? (Sahih Muslim 23:5113). Proven untrue.
12. Looking at the sky during prayer causes blindness (Sahih Bukhari 1:12:717). Obviously false.
13. Fever is caused by the heat of hell (Sahih Bukhari 7:71:619, 1:3262). Really?
14. Black dogs (in general) are the devil. (Sahih Muslim 4:1032)
15. Crowing is caused by seeing angels, braying of donkeys is caused by seeing devils. (Sahih Bukhari 4:54:522)
16. Eating 7 dates cures poison (Sahih Bukhari 7:65:356)
17. Pharoah used crucifixion as a punishment. Crucifixion is a Roman punishment, unknown in Egypt at the time this story supposedly occurred. (Quran 7:124)
Those that believe in Jesus will need a close relationship with Him. Praying to Marry isn't scripture, calling a Pope or mere mortal on earth a Father or Holy Father is wrong.
I am afraid that is not true, friend. It was common for Jesus to call church leaders Father as well as Jesus's followers.
@@professorcomics2736 and of course St Paul referred to himself as a father on several occasions.
@@professorcomics2736 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
Matthew 23:9
@@RealGeorgeyWashington Let us take that argument one step further. You yourself reject calling a priest father, but the text says "anyone on earth your father." Granted, we today may not call our biological fathers or our foster or stepparents father, but people throughout the centuries and certainly in the time the word of God was recorded called their fathers "father," and so we cannot exclude the name father itself as the name on its own lacks a judgment and we cannot distinguish without context. To dig a little deeper, we should be able to extrapolate that the text is saying not to call anyone on Earth God the Father or think of them in that manner, as there is one God the Father who has given us the gift of Holy Spirit through his only begotten son, Jesus. We now know we cannot exclude everyone from being called father, but there is still space to call Priests father. Priests in Catholicism are not equated to God the Father for obvious reasons, but the title remains because it was common in the time of Christ to call priests father in the sense that they are a spiritual father. Therefore, with a bit of analysis on the lack of judgment in your scriptural use of father and what we know from history, your argument falls apart. The Church has never proclaimed to be on the same grounds as Christ, God the Father, or any biblical figure. We are encouraged to become like Christ, as seen in 1 John 3:2, so we have a call to holiness and to grow in faith, the role which priests perform among other functions. That does not mean the Church proclaims or has ever proclaimed perfection or heavenly status, but we in the Catholic Church are blessed to have the fullness of the truth.
Brother In this text Actually Christ is forbidding the use of such names as spiritual titles or in ostentatious sense that gives undue spiritual authority to a human being, as if he were the source of truth rather than God. I don't believe this is always the case in the catholic church but we must be careful to guard ourselves. Blessings in our lord Jesus christ.
Seems to me that it would depend on what you mean by devout. If devout can include ignorance to the heresy that the Roman Catholic Church teaches regarding the nature of salvation then, theoritically they could be saved. However, I would say that this question is a mute point. We shouldn't be asking can this person or that person be saved. All can be saved, the question comes down to "who does your faith rest in?"
Caleb Suko // Am Catholic. A Greek Catholic, in Communion with the Roman Church. I grew up Southern Baptist. I would ask you, if you are willing to answer, to what are you referring when you speak concerning the nature of salvation? You see, I would argue that the Catholic perspective of Salvation is in fact Christ alone, understood from the lens of Scripture and not some foreign eisegetical interpretation of Scripture.
Alexander Duvall
What do you mean by "some foreign eisegetical interpretation of Scripture"?
@@alexanderduvall2567 the Roman catholic church is a false, pagan and apostate church that leads people to hell....they teach all kinds of heresies!
alelectricll // Take for instance Martin Luther’s approach to the Law/Grace dichotomy. Yes, we absolutely do not earn our salvation. But repentance is an act, even faith is an act of the intellect-these are not saving acts, but they are the means of opening the soul to have the saving grace of God poured therein. If I were to believe that I didn’t need to repent of my lifestyles of willful sins (which doesn’t just mean feel kind of guilty sometimes for my sins, while continuing to willfully live in direct disobedience to God in them, but to resolve, by the help of God’s Grace not to do them again) to be saved.
When Paul spoke of the Law, he was speaking specifically about the Jewish Law, not the Law of Saving Faith, which requires genuine repentance (which means to turn away) from sins. (That doesn’t mean you won’t sin again, or even daily, but... you see this is where the mortal sin-venial sin dichotomy is so helpful. It’s what Paul meant when he said, “those who practice these things will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven”... they’re lifestyles and choices of willful sin that one must resolve not to do, and if you do commit them, to turn from them again, to be saved. That is literally what the perseverance of the Saints is. Those who are destined to eternal life will literally persevere to the end, by God’s Grace. [We can’t know people’s hearts... but more often than not, their actions and their words come from the heart.])
@@alexanderduvall2567 Repentance is a gift, faith is a gift. Catholics use works for salvation, as well as purgatory, to reach heaven. Catholics have to have Priests to get sins forgiven. Grace is a gift as well. Guilt is not from God but from the devil. The Holy Spirit convicts. A True Christian can't sin with impunity, he will repent.
The bible says admit your sins to one another. When I forgive, that is what is bound in heaven. If I don't forgive
I'm not forgiven, that's bound in heaven as well. Mathew 16: 19 getting the keys of heaven, binding and loosing, are not just for Priests, it's for all who are saved. Oh yeah Mortal sin venial sin.....poppycock....
SIN IS SIN. Scripture says when we (christian) go through the veil, we will see Christ as He really is and we will be like Him. No such place as purgatory or limbo. You told someone that the Catholic church's prospective of salvation from the lense of biblical scripture was Christ alone. That's not true, the Catholic doctrine employs Mary as co-redemptrix, they even pray to her and to dead saints.
You said a few things right but you have a great deal of mixture.
The Catholic church has added many books from the apocrypha which were deemed undevine by early church fathers. The canon was closed, then when the reformation came they reopened the canon and inserted some of these books......do some research....check it out.
The Catholic church reads into scripture ( eisegesis) rather than drawing from scripture (exegesis).
I love Catholics, after all I was born to it and most family whom I love are Catholic.
I hate the institution not the people, besides there will be some Catholics saved, just like some of the rest
of the church people, only God knows who, but the gate is narrow.
Of course IF anyone in any False doctrinal Religion comes to hear the True gospel message and turns from self and puts their faith and trust in Jesus Christ “in” repentance, that person shall be saved. They then receive the Holy Spirit and begin the sanctification process (by God) and as they continue studying the Bible and being in a Biblical (Doctrine)sound church and fellowship with other God fearing followers of Christ and serving His people for the kingdom…
That will give God the glory due to Him. Amen
JESUS IS ENOUGH
Colossians 1:24 (NIV): "Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church."
If you accept what we call the New Testament you implicitly acknowledge the authority of the Roman Catholic church to compile it and to distinguish genuine scripture from counterfeits....with the exception of seven books Luther threw overboard, of course.
If you accept a New Testament Ephesians2:8_9 not by work free give .grce means free give jesus paid price did the work for us on the cross.
Point finger Excuses.
@alray i am not protestant. The thief on the cross repent to Jesus .Jesus said to day you be with me in( paradise) Meaning of the word paradise It's where the old testamen believes where until Jesus death Jesus taken everyone to heaven .
@alray The Pope doesn't have the right to change The Bible it says add or take away. Go to The Bible from the King James version the 10 commandments What you say. In the king James version it says do not Make into any graven image above the Earth beneath the Earth made with hands for I am a jealous God. And what you say do not have any strange gods. All the bibles Did not come from Manuscripts . king James version did everyone tried to make it modern bibles but they did not Go to the manuscript Go to the Manuscripts Only Luther . In your own Bible the Catholic Bible John 3:16 eph2:8_9 Many of the vs can be found the same as the king James version in the Catholic Bible I have a Catholic Bible .
Like I said I am not Protestan .luther fight against us burn all our books burn our church buildings.
I am a Devout Roman Catholic and I listen and I study
the word of God
It’s truly incredible how we preserve the Bible and the Church
@Asaph Vapor I have explained this to you elsewhere but you insist on your misrepresentation and lies about the Catholic faith. 1 None of Catholic doctrines are against the bible and all can be supported by the bible and the wider Christs teaching. Look up in the Catholic catechism with over 2000 bible references. 2 the Catholic Church did not ban the bible but unauthorised (changed) versions. The best study bible there is "The New Jerusalem Bible " is Catholic.
@Dennis Campeau
the only church JESUS STARTED is a body of believers not pagans or idolatrous PRACTICES.
those who put their trust in christ for ETERNAL life are his bride. the church is an organism not a kingdom in rome.
the church has one high priest, one husband one body, it is not "ROMAN CATHOLICISM IT IS CHRISTIANS.
ROMAN CATHOLICS PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE SYSTEMATIC OF RITUALISTIC WORKS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INSTITUTION SACRAMENTAL SYSTEM
Haley Santander the pope himself says it’s dangerous for a person to believe they can have a personal relationship with God. Where pray tell is THAT teaching in the Bible? Where in the Bible are we instructed to pray to saints or Mary or any human to intercede for us before God? ( read Hebrews!! Jesus ALONE is our HighPriest!). And there are many other heretical RCC teachings. Read the Bible and let the Holy Spirit teach you.
My advice for you is: pray to God for wisdom and He will give you! Ask him to help you understand the Bible and discern the truth. Don't ask him to confirm what you believe, but to teach you. It requires humility and faith! No one can convince you but God through the holy spirit!
@Dennis Campeau
is salvation simple? yes , so simple people wont believe it.
JOHN 11
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Do you see the last portion of verse 26
if you do it say "DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?"
That is my question to you, do you believe what Jesus is saying to Martha,?
is Jesus LYING?
does Jesus say you shall never die unless you do the sacraments, indulgences, prayers to Mary, confession to a priest,
does Jesus tell her she needs to do anything other ther believe? the answer is no, if Martha were to die she would go to heaven. simple so simple my grandchild believed it and is saved ETERNALLY.
Jesus clearly said "SHALL NEVER DIE",
ROMAN CATHOLICISM DENIES THIS VERSE TO BE TRUE and that you cannot be saved by faith in Jesus alone, theres other thing you need to do which are works.
what works did the thief on the cross do, does he get a free ticket.
Roman CATHOLICISM is a HERESY and man made fabrication to try and prove the bible does not mean what it says.
John 4
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the GIFT of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee LIVING WATER.
John 3
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John3
36 He that believeth on the Son HATH EVERLASTING LIFE: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
YOU DONT BELIEVE THESE VERSES OUT OF THE MOUTH OF JESUS. Your Jesus cannot save anyone he is a naked man nailed to a cross in your church that needs MOMMY to help him.
My Jesus of scripture is risen and victorious and paid for all my sin, he himself purged my sins, I now have his righteousness and not my own.
I have possession of ETERNAL life now while I'm alive.
CATHOLICISM and scriptures are complete opposites.
repent from this Constantinian false pagan idolatrous religious system of works and believe the gospel, the good news
purgatory is bad news and false news.
be blessed and believe in Jesus
The REALITY is that almost no one really knows what it means to be a "Born Again Chrisitan" Even Jesus (who was/is God in the living flesh) said that very few will make it through the narrow gate and this due to people failing to understand what it means to become a "Born Again Christian" (which is also synonymous with being "Saved" or a "Spiritual Awakening."
Those who call themselves a "Born Again Christian" just for the sake of image will be like the other 99.99% who also will end up in Hell for eternity like Pastor John.
Like Jesus said in John 11-25, 26
“I am the Resurrection and the Life. Whoever believes in (adheres to, trusts in, relies on) Me [as Savior] will live even if he dies; and everyone who lives and believes in Me [as Savior] will never die.
In order to believe in something, such as a doctor, one MUST fully test the doctor's advice / recommendation after leaving the doctor's office and this includes taking and following the doctor's prescribed medications and / or daily exercise routine.
This is the same as with Jesus words when He uses the word "beleives." One must fully test what Jesus had told His followers in order to fully understand what Jesus was telling His followers to do (and also what Jesus was trying to tell Nicodemus when the two spoke to one another.
I'm a devout protestant. But in my role as a caregiver for a lovely lady years ago, who was a Roman Catholic, I had to drive her to her Mass. I found the whole practice she cherished to be really out of sorts with what I know to be the truth. But in my capacity for the home health organization, it was my job and duty to assist her, not to reprimand her for her beliefs. She and I had many talks out our Savior over the many months I cared for her. I shared with her the Gospel, which she already knew, and I couldn't help but notice that she had a gentle kind of spirit...one who welcomed everyone. She was in love with Jesus. He was her focus, moreso than Mary. Now, I'm not saying all Catholics are like her. And I agree to this day that their ideas are not rooted in Scripture. But she really made me wonder if Roman Catholics could be saved, because she had the fruits of the Holy Spirit from Ephesians, her life was coated and drenched in them! I grew to admire her faith, not her religion - her faith which was simple and childlike and adoring of Jesus Christ. Sadly, weeks after a form of dementia ravaged her brain, the LORD took her home. But she made me believe that salvation is possible for Roman Catholics, because with God all things are possible. (Matthew 19:26) She inspired this poem I wrote, called: "Rain Tree Spotting"
From ages past,
a photograph
proves the lady made a lovely bride;
of whose husband’s
death and glory
she tells the story
with joy
as we ride…
along the narrow road,
where she points out a tree
with light pink patches blooming,
for all the world
to see.
She tells me, “It’s a rain tree.”
And we go further on
in hopes to spot another
with light pink patches donned.
She’s been around for quite a while,
with wisdom like a jewel;
she carries herself with dignity,
living by the golden rule.
Her hands are aged with time
and reach out to embrace
just any passer by
that eyes
her warm and smiling face.
She’s not one for discourse
on issues that divide,
and when pinned to answer
says she’ll not take any side.
She rather looks for beauty
in the simplest of things,
and gives praise
so spirits raise
in joyful noises to our King.
She inspires me to be better
in my love for fellow man;
there is a Light within her
that’s been put up on a stand.
She’s really like the rain tree
who stands through
weather cold or warm-
with light pink patches, perfect,
in their poise and stately charm.
These trees
she sees,
they comfort me-
remind me of a better place
where God will hold us near;
wipe every tear;
and reign in almighty grace.
Oh let us be like rain trees, LORD,
who flourish along the Way…
to bless the scene
in peace, serene,
growing for You come what may.
And let us be like her, dear God,
whose womb was never barren…
but fertile like fields
who ever yield
the blessed Rose of Sharon.
@Im Mike I'm a sister, but thank you.
@Im Mike It’s okay! God bless you as well!
Mass, eucharist, praying to Mary, and dead people are idolatry against God...
To love Jesus is to follow God's Word and Truth the Gospel...the New Testament only...the Bible only... anything outside of it is from Satan...
@@lydiapetra1211 We all, as protestants, know that. But the Bible also tells us to love mercy and walk humbly with our God. (Micah 6:8) It's one thing to know doctrine, it another to live it. And there's nothing merciful or humble about damning people to hell in our own estimation because they have been deceived. We have all been deceived at one point or another in our lives. And apart from grace, we couldn't believe correctly. So we are to operate from a point of humility so that none of us should boast in our own knowledge or works (Ephesians 2:8-9) You know nothing about the lady I write of in that poem. We must be careful, because knowledge leans itself to arrogance very easily. This poem is not mine, it's Emily Dickinson's. And it's not "in the Bible" but it has wisdom. Entertain it:
What Soft, Cherubic Creatures
These Gentlewomen are
One would as soon assault a Plush
Or violate a Star
Such Dimity Convictions
A Horror so refined
Of freckled Human Nature
Of Deity-ashamed
It's such a common Glory
A Fisherman's Degree
Redemption Brittle Lady
Be so ashamed of Thee
@@fruitofspirit Iam not a Protestant!!No Protestant will ever be in heaven!
People need to know Truth so they can turn to Jesus and repent....hell is very real and very frightening!!
The New Testament is very clear...
Sadly many "DEVOTED" Catholics do believe in their works, (that can save them), in their traditions, in Mary and the dead saints, and put their trust in the sheer amount of many members their religion have.
If you scrutinized deeply, you'll end up finding Catholicism is traced back to ancient Egypt and Babylon, Semiramis and Nimrod and Tamuz.
Mother goddess and sun god worships.
No one is saved by believing the Lord and adding to that trust your own boasting of good works you've done in your life. Traditions + Jesus = nothing, it's even a sin to trust in yourself than what Christ have done for you.
It's true that the Person that is crucified with Christ the same day at the same mount have been saved, but that's because he believe ONLY THE LORD, he doesn't have any traditions or self works that will help Jesus save him. It's only by the grace of Christ one is saved. Ephesians 2:8-9
Amen!!!
2 Thessalonians 2:15 "Therefore, brethren stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught by us, whether by word, or by letter"
Like YOU know who will be SAVED? The delusion and mental illness that you fools have will never cease to amaze me
@@Valkonnen I do.
***John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. - Jesus
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Jesus is the only way.
Repent. It is good to turn away from evil.
Do good works. Good works are rewarded.
But Only faith in the Grace of God which is Jesus can save.
Not faith that God exists.
God exists whether you believe in God or not.
It's faith that the Lord Jesus Christ will make sure that you are among the saints.
It's simple to show faith. You simply say , "I am yours God. I accept Jesus as my Savior. Guide me to righteousness."
By doing so you are accepting the Lord's authority over your life.
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If you believe that Jesus is the Christ then congrats. You're on the right path.
When we stand before God our lives and heart will be what matters ❤️. Not the Church you went too
“Born Again” as Our Lord describes in John’s Gospel is Baptism.
Only Jesus couldve opened my eyes to the deception of Catholicism...and He did! I am now a Christian "to the praise of His glorious grace." Ephesians
Either Satan did that, or Jesus excommunicated you from his church.
@@bridgefin Satan does not reside where the Holy Spirit is present. Jesus doesn't excommunicate; that is a silly human condemnation.
@@nightshade99
Satan loves to pull people out of Jesus' church and bring them to himself. And he picks losers who know nothing about the Holy Spirit. God excommunicated in both the Old and New Testaments:
Matthew 18:15-17 “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
1 Timothy 1:20: Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme.
Numbers 15:30 But the person who does anything defiantly, whether he is native or an alien, that one is blaspheming the Lord; and that person shall be cut off from among his people.
@@bridgefin Losers? What do you define as a "loser."
I was referring to cults who punish their members for not adhering to their false doctrines. Jesus will never cut you off if you truly repent before you die (such as your case.)
This is the meaning of Matthew 18: 15-17
What should the community of believers do if someone does fall into sin? How can they both take sinfulness seriously and attempt to bring the sinner back to faithfulness? Jesus gives a process for doing exactly that.
He begins by describing a scenario in which one among them sins. Some scholars question how the words "against you" should be read in this verse. Some earlier Greek manuscripts don't have those two words, simply saying "If your brother sins." Is Jesus talking about someone who sins only against another believer? Or someone who offends or does something disagreeable? Or is this someone who sins in any obviously and truly clear way? It's reasonable that the same process should be applied in all cases.
If another believer in Jesus sins against us-or if we become aware of the clear and obvious sin of another Jesus-follower-Jesus insists that the first step is always to have a private conversation with the person. This is often the most effective step in helping anyone to recognize and repent from sin. However, it's only likely to work if one approaches that person in childlike love and humility and without despising him or her. The goal is to keep this person as a brother or sister, not to shame or humiliate them.
If the result is not repentance, and we are still convinced of this person's ongoing sin, it is time to carefully bring someone else into the conversation (Matthew 18:16).
This is the second step in a process Jesus taught His disciples for confronting believers who have sinned or are continuing to sin. The beginning of the process involves only the person who is wronged and the one who has sinned. Or, perhaps, it involves the person who has witnessed another person sinning in some specific way. In either case, one person approaches another about the sin. The goal is confession and repentance in order to restore the relationship (Matthew 18:15).
More often than we realize, a simple conversation between two people is all that is needed for someone to admit wrongdoing and to begin to make different choices. Sometimes, though, the sinful person refuses to see their sin. He or she may deny it. They may refuse to stop.
If that is the case, Jesus now describes the next step in the process. The person who initiated the complaint should return, this time with a small group, such as one or two other people. Jesus is confirming here the principle established in the law in Deuteronomy 19:15, "A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established."
There are clear advantages to making this the next step in conflict resolution. The addition of one or two other people still keeps the matter fairly private. The goal remains repentance and restoration, not public shaming. However, adding more witnesses ensures that the issue is not merely about differing opinions or perspectives. Both the accuser and the accused have the opportunity to make their case to a third party. It may even be decided by those new participants that it's the accuser, not the accused, who is in the wrong.
If the additional witnesses agree that the accused is participating in sin, he or she has the opportunity to repent. Otherwise, the witnesses can confirm to the larger body in the next step of the process the refusal to repent (Matthew 18:17)..
If not, the accuser must recruit one or two other people to return with him or her to the sinful person and try again. Ideally, additional witnesses will objectively establish the truth. This is an opportunity to weed out rivalry or misunderstanding or inconclusive difference of perspective. However, if those new participants agree sin has taken place, this gives the wrongful one another chance to admit the sin, repent, and make things right (Matthew 18:16).
Now Jesus prescribes what must happen if the sinful person continues to refuse repentance and restoration. The accuser and the witnesses must accept the unpleasant task of presenting the situation to the church or the assembly. Again, ideally, those assembled as believers in Jesus will hear the issue and agree with the accused and the witnesses that sin has taken place. If the larger body does not agree wrong has been done, the process would stop here. If they do agree the accused is wrong, he or she is given one last chance to repent and make things right, now in a public setting.
Finally, if the sinfulness of the accused has been established and he or she continues to refuse to repent and make things right, then the church is to begin to treat this person as an outsider-in essence, as if they were a non-Christian. Jesus' description of this consequence, using the examples of tax collectors and Gentiles, shows He is talking to His group of Jewish disciples within the context of their Jewish culture. The Jewish religious community also had a process for removing someone from their community who was in rebellion against God.
It's important to understand that none of these steps involve treating the unrepentant person with disrespect. Jewish people had working relationships with Gentiles and even tax collectors. They simply did not allow them into the heart of their community and religious life. It's also important to notice that Jesus is not describing these excommunicated people as condemned by God at this point. As Paul will show in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, the goal for the church remains the restoration of the sinful person once he or she has finally come to repentance.
Also, it should be noted that banishment from a community should never be practiced lightly. Christian leaders should never despise those under their care, even those in rebellion. Much harm has been done by Christian leaders who have mishandled the application of this passage. The final step in this process should only ever be entered into with humility and great love for everyone involved-it is literally presented as the last resort.
@@bridgefin This is the meaning of 1 Timothy 1:20
Two examples of those who had "shipwrecked" their faith are the focus of this verse: Hymenaeus and Alexander. According to the prior verse, these men did not merely wander from the faith. They made a purposeful choice to reject a clear conscience, and the result was a destruction of their spiritual lives. Based on other comments in the New Testament, it is doubtful either of these men were legitimate believers.
Hymenaeus is also mentioned in 2 Timothy 2:16-18: "But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already happened. They are upsetting the faith of some." Apparently, at that point, Hymenaeus will be claiming that the resurrection of the dead had already taken place, distressing believers through his false teaching and ungodly living.
Alexander was a common name from the period, and there are multiple people with that name in the New Testament. A Jew named Alexander is mentioned in Ephesus in Acts 19:33-34. It is unclear whether this is the same man Paul mentioned. Second Timothy 4:14-15, however, seems to indicate the same person referred to here: "Alexander the coppersmith did me great harm; the Lord will repay him according to his deeds. Beware of him yourself, for he strongly opposed our message."
Both Hymenaeus and Alexander are presented as actively opposing believers and Christian teachings. Paul had "handed them over to Satan," meaning he had stayed away from them so God could deal with them. The point of Paul's action is not to punish, but to inspire repentance and reconciliation (as in 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15).
John 14:6
"JESUS CHRIST, SAID UNTO THOMAS; I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, & THE LIFE: NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHERS, BUT BY ME." Amen.
The Gospel is simple really!
It's not Religion rather a relationship.
Religion is our efforts to reach our Creator. Through the Gospel God reaches us in Christ Jesus.
By grace we're JUSTIFIED through faith upon Jesus. Sanctified through the sealing of the Holy Spirit thereafter as we walk in loving obedience to Jesus in gratitude and appreciation for God senfing His Son to clean dirty filthy me ! We're are REDEEMED. We come in His plan thence living and proclaiming the Good News of the GOSPEL. 2 Cor 5:17-18)
Jesus Loves You!!❤ He's coming back soon!! Time's almost up!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know alot of people dont believe in Jesus's return or the three days of darkness or the rapture or the tribulation, * i think the first three might be the same thing or at the same time but thats just my personal opinion* but his disciples asked him what will be the sighn of your coming AND of the end of the age. 2 different things. His coming. And the end. Seek God in ALL your ways and he WILL direct your path, and for those who don't believe Jesus is God, look up bible verses saying that HE IS God.
JOHN 1:1
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God
JOHN 1:14
The word bacame flesh and dwelt among us .
I am so glad I became a Catholic in 2021 after being a Calvinist and being a fan of John Piper... The strawmen are ripe here. I don't know if he is ignorant or is bearing false witness but the first comment he makes about the Pope alongside the Teaching Magisterium being above Scripture is totally off. They are faithful servants and interpreters of Scripture based upon a living Tradition (2 Thess 2:15, 3:6, 1 Corinthians 11:2 and elsewhere) and if you want to see what the early Church/Tradition believed in (their interpretation) on the Eucharist, on Baptism, on Apostolic Tradition, on Apostolic Succession, etc you will not remain an Evangelical... I promise. You have to ask yourself who is more likely to get the interpretation right? A disciple of the Apostle John (like Ignatius of Antioch) or one in living memory (like Irenaeus) or a Reformer 1500 years down the road, let alone John Piper or any other contemporary pastor that is doing the EXACT same thing Rome is doing which is interpreting Scripture. The difference is Tradition holds that the Church is infallible on matters of faith and morals (in specific instances obviously, not every comment by a theologian) whereas contemporary pastors, at best, have a mere theological opinion... Ironically they are really saying the same thing that Rome is saying. What is that? That their reading of the Bible is led by the Holy Spirit, which the Holy Spirit is infallible... If that is the case, why so many contradictions on ESSENTIAL issues, not just secondary? Protestantism is a broken system, we have 300 plus denominations in the United States and 40,000 denominations worldwide. Tell me who has the capacity to actually fulfill John 17? The Church of Rome where there's 1.3 to 1.4 billion Catholics in one Church, or Protestantism where there's roughly 800 to 900 million Protestants spread out across 40,000 denominations... You guys gonna call a Council (Like Acts 15) to figure that out? We actually have the mechanism by which to do that... Protestants reading this, please read primary sources of the Catholic Church and read the Fathers; the early Church was the Catholic Church. God bless you.
@Ben Jones Yeah I have literally never met a Catholic who left the Church for Protestantism who knew what they were leaving and I've met scores of them but every Protestant that I have met that became a Catholic or have seen on video that made that decision knew their Protestantism well and knew exactly what they were leaving and what/why they were becoming Catholic. There's that old saying that is very true, "strong Protestants become Catholic, weak Catholics become Protestant."
I would fall under protestant but would ask the question "Can a devout protestant be genuinely born again?"
I think the question in this video shows the pride of prodestantism, thinking we have the correct view of the Bible, being devastatingly blinded by the plank in our eye while trying to take the specks out of the Catholic Church's eye.
Neither prodestantism nor Catholicism have a monopoly on God. God is much bigger than both. I hope we can get along much better in the future and stop the division.
***Revelation 2:1-7
“To the angel of the church of Ephesus write,
‘These things says He who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands:
“I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil.
And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars;
and you have persevered and have patience, and have labored for My name’s sake and have not become weary.
Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love.
Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works,
or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place-unless you repent.
But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.” ’
***Revelation 2:8-11
“And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write,
‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
“I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich);
and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not,
but are a synagogue of Satan.
Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer.
Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested,
and you will have tribulation ten days.
Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.” ’
***Revelation 2:12-17
“And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write,
‘These things says He who has the sharp two-edged sword:
“I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is.
And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith
even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr,
who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.
But I have a few things against you,
because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam,
who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel,
to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.
Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans,
which thing I hate.
Repent, or else I will come to you quickly
and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat.
And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written
which no one knows except him who receives it.” ’
***Revelation 2:18-29
“And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write,
‘These things says the Son of God,
who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass:
“I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience;
and as for your works, the last are more than the first.
Nevertheless I have a few things against you,
because you allow that woman Jezebel,
who calls herself a prophetess,
to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality
and eat things sacrificed to idols.
And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality,
and she did not repent.
Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed,
and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation,
unless they repent of their deeds.
I will kill her children with death,
and all the churches shall know that I am
He who searches the minds and hearts.
And I will give to each one of you according to your works.
“Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira,
as many as do not have this doctrine,
who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say,
I will put on you no other burden.
But hold fast to what you have till I come.
And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end,
to him I will give power over the nations-
‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron;
They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’-
as I also have received from My Father;
and I will give him the morning star.
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
***Revelation 3:1-6
And to the angel of the church in Sardis write,
‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars:
“I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.
Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die,
for I have not found your works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent.
Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief,
and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.
You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments;
and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.
He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments,
and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life;
but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
Augustine of Hippo was a devout Roman Catholic
A a practicing Roman Catholic myself I have to say almost every concern you had in this podcast was based completely in the wrong. I urge you if you want to talk about such things to actually go into a parish or religious education classroom and learn about it. Many of the preconceived notions you had were way off base
*Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways!*
*RCC vs BIBLE 2*
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it.
11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + 7 sacraments + obedience = salvation). Yet Bible says believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a c--- disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
I don't know why I never connected those dots before about Mary making a sin offering. After I read Mary say "my savior" that was enough for me. Mary cannot be sinless!
How great is our God!
The world needs to see that we are not in Martin Luther's time. We are not in an era where an elite few read the scripture. This is the USA where Roman Catholic Education has taught the bible for decades to students, mostly young but also old. The followers in the USA and other nations (many of which are literate nations) have been exposed, read, and studied in detail the bible. The practitioners of Catholicism are very much readers of scripture. In addition, it has been made abundantly clear that Catholic teaching IS in fact found in scriptures and the Catholic Church is the one holy apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ.
My Catholic brothers and sisters, be steadfast in your faith, but think of the slowness to anger our Lord possesses and while no one can substitute Jesus, there is hope that we may show patience and love for all those who have fled away from home. As St. Paul said in 1st Corinthians "Let there be no divisions in the Church."
One cannot deny the divisions in Christianity that have propagated as a result of the Protestant Reformation. While the Church in Luther's time may have needed reform, it did not need a reformation.
Peace my Protestant brothers and sisters.
Beloved, Jehovah's Witnesses certainly study the Bible more than Romanists, yet they are still heretical. The main issues bears repeating:
1. It the Word that forms the Church and not the Church that forms the Word. The Word has always been in existence (being God Himself). The Spirit inspired men to write down aspects of it, and it reached its fullest expression in the life and teachings of Christ. It is the Word that is infallible and not the Pope or the Church. It’s untrue that the OT was not regarded as Scripture until some Church Council said so. Jesus and the Apostles regarded the OT as settled Scripture. Evidence for this is in every single book of the NT. The Church merely accepted the OT Scriptures as they are. They also accepted all books that had Apostolic authority as the NT. The Church Councils had no choice whatsoever in the matter.
2. The claims of Rome rest solely on the revisionist notion of Peter the first Pope. I cringe when Romanists drag the blessed name of St Peter into their heresy. Peter was primus inter pares (first among equals) but NEVER a Pope. In fact, at the very first Council (of Jerusalem) James presided and gave the final ruling, even though Peter was present. Paul regarded himself as equal to Peter, and wrote letters to Churches he did NOT found, without referring to the need to check things with a Pontiff. Peter refers to Paul's teachings as authoritative, while Paul denounced Peter's teachings as heretical. In fact, Paul wrote to the Church of Rome, without any reference to Peter. The Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster would not write a letter to the Vatican without any reference to the Pope. If Peter was an infallible pontiff (like the heretical Pope Pius the IX claimed), the NT would have no encyclicals from any of the other Apostles. Just like in today's RC Church, only Popes write encyclicals. Peter as pontiff is the revisionist creation of unscrupulous papists. Sir, you have been duped.
3. Papal infallibility is far more pernicious than most people realize. Among many ill effects, lets state only five:
i. It quenches the Spirit: that is why RC hymn writers are often converts or ecumenists. Cardinal Newman could not have written “Souls of men” if he did not have the fortune of starting life as an Anglican. When Romanists sing "Amazing Grace" or "Blessed Assurance" or "Abide with me" one often wonders if they realize that their own church members have a psychological block from attaining such levels of Christian expression mainly because of the Romanist ethos of infallibility which situates inspiration in an artificial mechanism rather than in the Word of God.
ii. It quenches accountability of the hierarchy - there is “trickle-down” quasi-infallibility of Cardinals, Bishops and even ordinary priests and religious. Many Romanist parish priests speak "ex cathedra" in their own little corners even more stridently than the Supreme Pontiff. That is what is at the root of the explosive scandals. That is also why Pope Francis can ignore very valid appeals for him to be accountable.
iii. It quenches interest in the Word of God - why bother when one man has all the answers?
iv. It quenches Evangelism - people are not eager to spread a Word which is not definitive but is subject to tinkering and "interpretation" through a system led by a man who is elected by a fallible conclave. That is why the vast majority of converts to Christianity become evangelical Christians. Romanism is a dead end.
v. It quenches Integrity. Lets take a simple example. Apart from the arch-conservatives, most Romanists tell me in private that they reject the encyclical Humanae Vitae. Yet, against the dictates of their own conscience, they must defend it publicly, only because the Pope is "infallible".
Protestants always trying to discredit the church so they can get more sheep in their churches.
Anne Francis Elizabeth
They are as heretical as you
@@RGTomoenage11 Beloved Romanist, when in a better mood, read the above summary that I gave again. The facts are essentially irrefutable.
Anne Francis Elizabeth
I was a Protestant like you, get out of those made made American religions.
Beloved Protestants.
Pope Francis proclaims Jesus … biblical and otherwise Francis said "According to the World Jesus failed on the cross " Not according to Francis or the Catholic Church. Catholic doctrine is at one with the bible (we compiled it around 397 AD Council of Rome and the Synod of Hippo ) and if you think otherwise you don't know Catholic doctrine and/ or the bible.
@Asaph Vapor So I did my research and all this comes from two organisations one ""the onion.com " and another "fuckthe pope" both with a reputation for lies and anti Catholic hate. No reputable news agency reports this!!
@Asaph Vapor I have corrected these before. I will just do a few to show Firstly nowhere in the bible that Catholics compiled around 395 ad Council of Rome and Synod of Hippo does it say "bible alone" Secondly you know you are wrong if you think you have found a contradiction between the bible and catholic teaching as there is none. three nowhere in the bible does it say Mary sinned. Mary was a perpetual virgin. Brothers and sisters refers to deep friends and wider relatives such as cousins. We are told to as for forgiveness from God alone but this is through HIS ordained ministers "whatever sins you forgive they are forgiven .... you retain they are retained..." John 6 Jesus says three times "You must eat my body and drink my blood" We have 14 scripture quotes to back this up. (Acts 15 refers to drinking human blood... The bible says you need to do a lot more than "believe in Jesus" John 3 Baptism John 6 + 14 other references for the Eucharist. ….. Jesus said love GOD AND YOUR NEIGHBOUR...……..
I was a devout Catholic for 30+ years until God change my life in the summer of 2022.
2020 started my conversion when all the churches started shutting down. I was pretty worried so I started actually reading my Bible.
My mom (who is still Catholic) gave me a very short book (120 ish pages) called the “Warning.” It is a Catholic book about people repenting and praying the rosary and having supernatural experiences with Jesus. The book is great however at the very end of the book there is a claim that one day everyone will become Catholic (this is clearly not going to be the case, in fact later I find out that the Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon in the book of Revelation.)
This book however did something that I was not expecting. You see this whole time although I was a sinner I always thought I am a “good” person, I am in the true church, I am Catholic, I am probably going to heaven. I was never sure I was actually going to heaven, maybe I was going to purgatory like the Catholic Church teaches. (I know now purgatory does not exist and is not Biblical and goes against what Jesus taught. It really helps to actually know the Bible.)
So I believed I was a “good” person and I was going to heaven. I of course was using my own standards as who was a good person and not God’s standards. So while reading this book it starts out with people who were really bad sinners (in my eyes) and I would think “I am not as bad as these people. Surely I am going to heaven.”
Then near the end of the book there was a story about a nun.
In my eyes the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, priests, and nuns were all Holier than me. They had dedicated their whole lives to God something I didn’t do and they hear from God more than me. (I hadn’t connected the dots yet about the Catholic church.)
So I read about this nun talking about her sins that she had to repent. (What is funny is that the people in this book all repented to God and not to a Priest. I didn’t even realize that till later though.) She was listing all these sins that were nothing in my eyes and less sins than my sins. She was talking about how she wasn’t always nice to the other nuns and she wasn’t always doing things in love. That got to me. I realized that this person that I thought was Holy was a sinner like me and her sins were less than my own. I read how she repented and had an experience with Jesus. I suddenly had the realization that I was a sinner and that I was NOT going to heaven.
I started sobbing from the heart when I realized I was a sinner just like everyone else and I was not going to heaven. The only way I was going to heaven was if God willed it through Jesus. (I already believed in Jesus but had never gone directly to him for forgiveness. I had always done what the Catholic Church taught me which was go tell a priest.)
So I said a prayer from my heart asking for forgiveness.
“Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus. I am so sorry for sinning against you. I didn’t realize I was hurting you. I am so sorry. Please forgive me. Amen.”
I was sobbing the whole time I said the prayer, hoping that God would have mercy on me and let me into heaven. The moment I finished the prayer. I heard a voice (it sounded audible but I know it was in the Spirit). I was in my home office sitting in my work chair when this happened. The voice sounded like it was coming from my left just behind me but I knew it wasn’t an audible voice.
The voice said “I forgive you.” I immediately knew the voice was Jesus although I didn’t see him. I also felt/sensed that he touched my heart with his finger. Not my physical heart but my spiritual heart. I know now that he was making me a new creation in Christ. At the time I had no idea what was happening. I had only heard the term born again of the Spirit a couple times and I had never understood what they were talking about.
I know without any doubt in my heart that I was born again in that very moment. When I cried out to God asking for forgiveness from a truly repented heart. He forgave me and gave me a new spirit and new heart with new desires.
I am born again. (John 3:8)
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For anyone who is still Catholic here is why purgatory is not true (among many other false doctrines.)
Jesus paid for all sin for all of mankind over 2000 years ago. He didn’t pay for it one at a time he did it all at once. So people that haven’t even been born yet he already paid for their sins.
For purgatory to exist would mean that Jesus either forgot to pay for one or more of your sins or he Chose not to pay for one or more of your sins.
That is not the Jesus of the Bible. That is a false Christ. The Jesus Christ of the Bible paid for all sin for all of mankind for all of time. He doesn’t pay for your sins one at a time as you commit them. He takes them all at once when you are born again. The spiritual realm is outside of time.
He takes your old dead spirit with all the son attached to it and puts it on himself and gives you a new Spirit of Life and then the Holy Spirit comes to dwell inside of you. He is there to help you with everything. He will help you purge everything from your life that shouldn’t be there. You will have a new heart with new desires.
Leave religion behind for a relationship with God.
If the Catholic Church is mystery Babylon, then you Protestants are also from Mystery Babylon.
Purgatory is not going against anything.
You clearly do not know the bible.
Protestants believe that they are going to heaven because of their doctrine of once saved always saved.
Jesus instituted the sacrament of Reconciliation which you Protestants hate.
Your understanding of Purgatory is wrong.
All you did was show your ignorance of what the Catholic Church teaches.
@@georgepierson4920 *You do not sound intelligent. Christians are already OUT OT Roman pagan religion like what Scriptures commanded. So why would Christians be Mystery Babylon?*
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If Roman Catholic Church is mystery Babylon, then you Protestants are also from Mystery Babylon.
@@georgepierson4920 *You do not sound intelligent again. Bible does not teach Roman pagan Purgatory. Bible teaches "die once then Judgement". THere is no time for Purgatory.*
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Purgatory is not going against anything.
@@georgepierson4920 *Again lacking intelligence. Bible says "believe in Jesus to be saved", John 3:16. Christians are already saved like Scriptures say. Unlike Roman pagans who are never saved since ROman pagans love Purgatory (Lucy's home).*
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Protestants believe that they are going to heaven because of their doctrine of once saved always saved.
@@georgepierson4920 *Jesus did not institute any ROman pagan Mass (sacrificing Jesus on the altar back to God) though. You cannot find that in Scriptures. So where did Roman pagans get all your ns?*
*On the contrary, Bible says clergy priesthood, altars and sacrifices were already obsolete, Heb 7,9,10. So where did Roman pagan altars and Roman pagan priesthood come from?*
you said
Jesus instituted the sacrament of Reconciliation which you Protestants hate.
Thank you Lord!!! and to the servant of God
I'm an ex Catholic! I never knew Jesus! Was born again four years after leaving it!
People leave the Catholic Church to indulge the flesh. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.
I was catholic for 30+ years before my life became so I called on the name of the lord and searched for him whole heartedly and found Jesus christ. Catholism is regurgitated paganism.
@ALEX W. Who says Catholics worship Mary? actually only non-Catholics strangely enough. She is honoured and respected but worship is only reserved for God alone.
@Asaph Vapor Catholics believe those horrific priests out there are all going to hell, unless they truly repent but ironically the Gospel of Grace has them going to heaven since all their sins have been forgiven by the redemptive work of Christ on the cross.
@@georgepenton808 you will burn on hell with the pope if you dont come out of that idolatry called the catholic church
Of course they can be genuinely saved if they believe in Jesus Christ as the only way.
If only Mother Teresa had heard this, then she wouldn’t have waisted all her time opening orphanages, and creating housing for people with HIV/AIDS and leprosy, feeding the hungry, and providing medical services and counseling for some of the poorest people on Earth. All those silly Catholics taking care of the poor and less fortunate. Matthew 7:16
it's nice to hear a pastor speaking unabashedly about the Roman Catholic church. So many, when asked this question, will give a politically correct answer. What does the Catholic church teach? what does the Bible teach in comparison? Thank you!
@Asaph Vapor I have corrected these before. I will just do a few to show Firstly nowhere in the bible that Catholics compiled around 395 ad Council of Rome and Synod of Hippo does it say "bible alone" Secondly you know you are wrong if you think you have found a contradiction between the bible and catholic teaching as there is none. three nowhere in the bible does it say Mary sinned. Mary was a perpetual virgin. Brothers and sisters refers to deep friends and wider relatives such as cousins. We are told to as for forgiveness from God alone but this is through HIS ordained ministers "whatever sins you forgive they are forgiven .... you retain they are retained..." John 6 Jesus says three times "You must eat my body and drink my blood" We have 14 scripture quotes to back this up. (Acts 15 refers to drinking human blood... The bible says you need to do a lot more than "believe in Jesus" John 3 Baptism John 6 + 14 other references for the Eucharist. ….. Jesus said love GOD AND YOUR NEIGHBOUR...……..
You need to ask yourself why so many biblically knowledgeable protestants are turning to Catholicism (like Dr Scott Hahn etc) ? Because Catholicism is closest to the bible ! The so called "pastor John " lies about Catholicism and twists the bible to give comfort to those too lazy to find out about Catholicism themselves.
Im Catholic and im.born again
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10) The Virgin Mary, the Mother of our Blessed Lord. Once you settle the issue of the non-Biblical evidence of "faith alone, scripture alone," and realize that one Church has consistently interpreted, taught, and defended the faith and new testament of the Living God, the Marian Doctrine becomes clearer. Per the Douay Rheims 1582 translation (more accurate than the KJV,) Gabirel greets Mary. "And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." [Luke 1:28] Gabriel "Strenght of God," gives Mary divine greeting, the only time it is such in Scripture. "Full of Grace" "Gratia Plena" "Chaire, Kecharitomene," means "you" were perfected in grace in the past and remained perfect until the present time. This is the same quality of the sanctifying grace St. Pauls describes in Ephesians 1:6-14, Christ's regeneration of us through grace to be made perfect in him, "[6] Unto the praise of the glory of his grace, in which he hath graced us in his beloved son. [7] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins, according to the riches of his grace, [8] Which hath superabounded in us in all wisdom and prudence, [9] That he might make known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, which he hath purposed in him, [10] In the dispensation of the fulness of times, to re-establish all things in Christ, that are in heaven and on earth, in him. [11] In whom we also are called by lot, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things according to the counsel of his will. [12] That we may be unto the praise of his glory, we who before hoped in Christ: [13] In whom you also, after you had heard the word of truth, (the gospel of your salvation;) in whom also believing, you were signed with the holy Spirit of promise, [14] Who is the pledge of our inheritance, unto the redemption of acquisition, unto the praise of his glory. [15] Wherefore I also, hearing of your faith that is in the Lord Jesus, and of your love towards all the saints."
Full of Grace is Mary's name to God the Father, for she is the new Eve of the New Covenant that is the gateway Jesus Christ uses to not only carry out his mission, but also restores the fall of the old Adam and old Eve. Christ is the New Adam, Mary the new Eve, and it must be so because only a uncreated being: fully God and fully man, the God-Man could accomplish the restoration of His fallen creation from Satan. Mary is also the ark of the new covenant, as the old ark carried: the word of God (the ten commandments), bread from heaven (mana) and the rod of Aaron (the High Priest), Mary in her womb for nine months carried: the word of God ((became flesh) to (dwell among us)), the bread of Life (John 6), and the High Priest (of the order of Melchizedek) who as St. Johns writes: ""And I saw: and behold in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the ancients, a Lamb standing as it were slain, having seven horns and seven eyes: which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth. [7] And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne. [8] And when he had opened the book, the four living creatures, and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints: [9] And they sung a new canticle, saying: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to take the book, and to open the seals thereof; because thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God, in thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation. [10] And hast made us to our God a kingdom and priests, and we shall reign on the earth." [Apocalypse (Revelation) 5:6]."
Scripture declares Mary as the Mother of God, vice only the Mother of Jesus (man only), "And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" [Luke 1:43]
To miss this key part would be to fall to Arianism (4th Century Heresy, condemned at the Council of Nicea); the heresy stated Jesus was not God, but rather a created being. Additionally, going back to "Full of Grace," God cannot dwell in the presence of sin nor enter a corrupted vessel that would be under the authority of Satan. Mary, "Full of Grace" allows for this not to happen.
Lastly, one of the most beautiful verses of Revelation, and definitive for the Church to say Mary is the "Queen of Heaven," is the entire Chapter 12 of Revelation.
We feel this is sufficient for now but can also reference: Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation (Confession), Purgatory, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Bishop of Rome (aka the Pope), Pope and Trinity, Romans: St. Paul vs. Martin Luther.
Thus we leave you with "To him be glory and empire forever and ever. Amen. Beseeching and testifying that this is the true grace of God, wherein you stand. Salute one another with a holy kiss. Grace be to all you, who are in Christ Jesus. Amen."
No. If you believe the gospel then you don't trust Mary for salvation, you don't bow down to idols, or the pope, or the priest, or the saints, and you don't do the hundreds of unbiblical doctrines that they practice. PERIOD
When you love you theology more than you love Jesus and his word, you maybe in trouble. Some calvinists, in my view, rant on about their theology to such an extent, it does make you wonder, which they love more. There are catholics like that, they love their RCC and their pope in the same way. Theology has nice has it may seem, will lead many to hell I fancy, because they can become totally absorbed by it. Look at hyper calvinists, look what theology did for them. In my opinion there is only one theology you need to worry about, Love God with all your heart, mind and power and love your neighbour, that's it. You can't go wrong. Most theology is just man made theology, guessing what God says, what his word says.
God won't look at what is in your head, it's your heart he is concerned with.
Jesus gave us HIS Catholic Church as we all can not be theologians. Those outside the Church who make up their own bible institutions, traditions and change Christ for their own ends are against Jesus
@@1234poppycat Who do you believe? The men of the Catholic church who have made up theology and doctrines that the bible warns about, or do you believe scripture? Jesus is the Word made flesh. Believing and trusting God is all God has ever wanted. Eve failed to believe and trust God.
@@1234poppycat "Those outside the Church who make up their own bible institutions, traditions and change Christ for their own ends are against Jesus" - this describes the Catholic church
@@1234poppycat Yes Jesus gave us the church, therefore, follow Jesus' church, not the Catholic church. Jesus is the Word made flesh. Follow the Word to follow Jesus and you will be in his church if you fellowship with other believers.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr the Holy Catholic Church is Jesus's Church ... the conversation between Jesus and St. Peter in John 21:15-17, and that’s when Jesus says “Do you love me?” “Yes, Lord.” “Feed my lambs. Do you love me?” “Yes, Lord, I love you.” “Tend my sheep.” The Greek word there is literally “shepherd my sheep,” and then of course the third time: “Do you love me? Yes, Lord, you know I love you,” and Jesus responds: “Feed my sheep.”
So we have this three-fold command from Jesus to Peter for Peter to engage in these shepherding duties: feeding the lambs, shepherding, and feeding the sheep. And Christians throughout the centuries have seen in that one example among many of Christ investing Peter with this unique role to shepherd the universal flock of God.
Because notice: Jesus singles Peter out, gives him these commands in the presence of others-but does not give such commands to the others !!
I was born from a family that’s catholic and I have been baptized as a baby, I am a Christian but my family is catholic. I went to Catholic Churches as a kid and my family is Mexican but I’ve noticed that the priests always say “give me money!” Or something like that. Is that right? And can I be baptized as a Christian still even though my catholic family already baptized me as a baby’?
@??? *Of course you can be baptised as a Christian. Most importantly you must believe in Jesus to be saved.*
Act 16:30 And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
Act 16:31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
The bible seems to say that you get baptized after believing. So I would say infant baptisms are invalid.
thats rich considering all the millionaire evangelical pastors coining it in by feeding lies and nonsense into gullible people and living the high life at their expense
@@JohnAnderson-ss9vn *You are referring to false churches and false teachers. NOT A DIME to do with true Christianity. By the way true Christianity does not refer to roman cult.*
@???
I (the Apostle, St. Paul), then, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to live in a manner worthy of the call you have received, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another through love,striving to preserve the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace:
one body and one Spirit, as you were also called to the one hope of your call;
one Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM;
one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."
cf. Ephesians 4: 1-6
Baptism is once for life. Once you are baptized you are baptized: baptized into Christ. You don't need to be rebaptized. You were baptized "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". Your baptism is good for life....eternal life, in fact....Lol. In your baptism, through faith, your sins were forgiven, your spirit was renewed / regenerated, you were justified, you received the gift of eternal life and you received the indelible mark or gift of the Holy Spirit indwelling your soul,
"...when the kindness and generous love
of God our savior appeared,
not because of any righteous deeds we had done but because of his mercy,
HE SAVED US THROUGH THE BATH OF REBIRTH AND RENEWAL BY THE HOLY SPIRIT,
whom he richly poured out on us
through Jesus Christ our savior,
SO THAT WE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE and become HEIRS IN HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE.
This saying is trustworthy."
cf. Titus 3: 4-8
"For IN ONE SPIRIT WE WERE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, AND WE WERE ALL GIVEN TO DRINK OF ONE SPIRIT."
cf. I Corinthians 12: 13
"For all of you WHO WERE BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE CLOTHED YOURSELF WITH CHRIST."
cf. Galatians 3: 28
After this I think I will become a Catholic thank you
Carry on & be damned!
@ Natalie B why would you choose to live the rest of your precious life living in fear of going into a place of torment that does not exist? (Purgatory). Better to choose the Lord Jesus Christ and go to him, I would say. So says the Bible too.
Come on over. We have donuts after Mass. Check out Fr. Mike Schmitz and Dr. Scott Hahn. Both are awesome at teaching.
Welcome home Natalie ❤️
@@ronashman8463 I'm afraid you have been misinformed. The Catholic Church does not teach that Purgatory is a place, but rather that it is a process. It is the final rush of sanctification before a soul enters Heaven. Seeing as we are all sinners and "nothing unclean can enter Heaven", something obviously has to happen before we can go there. The simply word purgatory simply means "purification". If you are interested in learning what Catholics actually believe about purgatory rather than some fictitious doctrine Protestants attribute to us, you can read more about it here: www.catholic.com/search?q=Purgatory
*Sure Jimmy S. Except Bible says all sins lead to spiritual death. Not only mortal sins. “For the wages of sin is death. Rom **6:23**a”. So your so call mortal sin is misinterpreted. It can only refer to sin leading physical death as in 1 Cor 5:5. NOT spiritual death.*
The question should be can a born again Christian still be Catholic
Catholicism is wonderful and beautiful. Catholicism is all about Jesus Christ.
No... what is light to do with darkness....
No way!
@@georgepenton808 Catholicism has beautiful buildings and statues. I go to church in a town hall basement because there are true believers there. It's a wonderful place!
Romans 10:9....Yes. Can a born-again believer walk in The Spirit and practice Catholicism? I tried. Very, very frustrating. Sooner or later ( better sooner) you must let go of religion and embrace The Truth. Colossians 2:6. "As you have received Christ ( by faith ) so walk ye in Him ( by Faith ). "
@the sweaty pro
Your post is a contradiction to itself. You yourself "received Christ" in the Catholic religion, therefore, as St. Paul says, you should "so walk ye in Him". Yet you denounce it. Makes no sense.
I'll wager you $100 you don't even know the etymology and original meaning of the word "religion" it has taken on so many negative connotations because of those who have claimed to be guides from within it, who went on to scandalize their disciples (I am thinking here of Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, Catholic priests who engaged in pedophilia, etc).
The English word "religion" comes from a Latin root word, "religare" which originally meant, "to bind back to". "Religion" is what "binds us back to" God: it is the beliefs, morality, practices and rituals which comprise our faith in, hope in, and love for God. "Religion", in and of itself, CANNOT be bad. Why?
Because Jesus Christ Himself stepped down out of eternity and infinity and into time and space as a first century AD Hebrew WHO PRACTICED HIS RELIGION PERFECTLY, and THEREBY WON OUR REDEMPTION AND SALVATION for us RECONCILING US WITH GOD.
The 'bad apples' don't define whether or not a 'religion' is good or bad. Is baseball bad because Darryl Strawberry was high on cocaine when he gave us some of the most memorable moments of baseball history? Or when Marc Maguire was really shooting up steroids to go on and break the all time batting record for total hits or home runs? Is the U. S. Presidency, in and of itself, a bad institution simply because former President William Jefferson Clinton committed adultery while president?
It isn't the 'bad apples' that define whether something a 'tree' produces good fruit (is good or not), BUT RATHER THE GOOD ONES. How could a religion which produced Sts. Peter and Paul, Sts. James and John, St. Irenaeus, St. Athanasius, St. Jerome, St. Benedict, St. Augustine, St. John Chrysostom, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Hildegard of Bingen, St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, St. Theresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, St. Katherine Drexel, Blessed Columba Marmion, St. John Paul II and St. Teresa of Calcutta (to name but a few) be a force for bad? It is ludicrous on the face of it.
I think ive had this not with Catholic teaching but other wrong teaching and my faith and walk has suffered but I want that close genuine relationship with Jesus
My grandma was Italian, devout roman catholic most of her life and raised her son, my dad, in the roman faith.
They didn't know Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior until dad was past his 50s and grandma her 80s...
What I learn watching them is that if you agree with Jesus you are convinced but If Jesus becomes the center of your life and affections, you are converted (this is true for "evangelicals" too).
More than 50 years of faithful Roman Catholicism faith where not able to bring my grandma to Christ and the reason is simple:
The beloved Roman church which Paul wrote the letter we have in our Bibles first had a falling away from faith in the 3rd and 4th centuries and as a result of that the antichrist (popery) came and took over the church, 1260 years later, in 1798 when , as per the prophecies in the bible, it received a partial judgement, the Jesuits took over.
In the process God divorced that church and started calling His people out of her starting in 1500s with the reformation.
So yes, a Roman Catholic can come to Christ and be born again but soon after that they will depart the Roman church (as did my grandma and dad) because if you love Christ you can't at the same time serve the antichrist(popery).
Jesus promised that whoever is looking for will find it so the best message we can give to a roman catholic is for them to seek Jesus, look for Him, not in the roman church but in the Bible.
Wow I’m glad this guy has no idea what an indulgence is/does
So many false things in what he was saying! And people are believing him. smh.
This man speaks Truth:
The religion and Cult of Rome is false pagan and apostate and leads people to hell!
Here's Truth:
"cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
Purgatory is not in the bible
Understood, but they were the only church with the resources to take me in when I was homeless.
Remember that protestants don't believe they need to do "good works". It wasn't about resources, Derrick.
Your thoughts are correct and thank you for making it so clear to your listeners.
@LorenzoMasterConnector *Bible does not teach there is such thing as a Catholic or Roman Catholic. Neither Roman Catholic = Christian. So why would there be the self claim of "to be Catholic is to be Christian above ALL denominations"? Where did you get all your ns?*
you said
To be Catholic is to be Christian above ALL denominations
I've been raised in a country where the Catholic Church has been the only source of religion, bringing people to faith. I also lived in a country where a different god is worshipped, and finally I spent a few years in a country where religion is not supported by the government.
Today I'm aware of the Christian persecution around the world, specially in Northern Africa where I had experience to see it.
Do I care to categorize the people who love and worship Jesus Christ whether is in a basement, a pompous church, a monumental Eastern European temple or in a simple Congregation? Not at all. The Lord knows our hearts and knows how much we love Him and our commitment to Him.
I've known fine Catholics and Presbyterians as Evangelicals.
♥️✝️☀️The Lord Jesus Christ is pure Awesomeness!
Sadly the Roman catholic church is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell!
Christians must only follow God and His Word the Bible...the gospel is the New Testament... anything outside of God's Word is from Satan!
CD - Thanks for sharing your your journey. Stay strong and hopeful. ✝️🌱
@@lydiapetra1211 I agree with things that go against the bible. Born again other than baptism is a heresy. The protestant movement is a direct satanic ploy to get folks to think that all they have to do to be saved is come forward for a cheap altar call going against 80% of the things that actually came out of Jesus's mouth. Jesus says that the forces of hell shall not overcome his church. and the only church in existence founded by Peter is the Catholic church.
@@FLpalm Jesus never founded the Roman catholic church....men and Satan founded it!
Revelation 17 and 18 are about the Whore of Babylon which is the false pagan and apostate Roman catholic church!
You are in a Cult...that's why you are blinded by Satan... what the RCC is teaching you is lies, deception and fabrication!
The RCC is Satan's greatest hoax!
Speaking as a devout Catholic, the answer is yes :-)
Hi Chris,
How does one (a catholic) get to heaven?
I would love to hear what a devout Catholic would say.
@@Dadaistish it depends on the circumstances. If somebody is on their death bed and wants to be saved, they can cry out to God, "Lord, save me, I'm a sinner, I need your forgiveness, have mercy on me." And they will be saved.
On the other hand, in most cases, it is as Jesus taught in the gospels. There are several places where people asked Him, "what must I do to inherit eternal life? (i.e. be saved)" A good example is Luke 10:25-37. The Parable of the Good Samaritan.
"On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
“What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”
“You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
The man wasn't convinced and went on to ask "who is my neighbour?" Jesus responded with the parable of the Good Samaritan. The message being, that the Samaritan who showed mercy on the man lying by the roadside, gained God's approval for his actions ans thus gained eternal life. While the two who walked past, did not gain God's approval.
If you want to go a bit deeper theologically, of course, there is also the fact that the blood of Christ has redeemed the world from sin, which has opened the way to make salvation possible in the first place. So ultimately any salvation is by the grace of God. Jesus is the lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world. So that has done away with the old Jewish practice of sacrificing lambs etc. and having to keep the law. Jesus has paid the price, so works of the old Jewish law are done away with.
Sorry for being so convoluted about a simple question, but there are several layers to it.
@@chrismole1315 thank you,
I wasnt expecting such a long answer. With all that said, how can you yourself be sure not ending up in hell?
Because I think thats such a big deal, one would have to have assurance of being saved in order to get some sleep at night.. How can you know?
@@Dadaistish I know that God loves me so much, that He became human and sacrificed His life on the cross for me, so I could be saved. So, He obviously wants me (and everybody else) in Heaven. So, no fear in that regard about God not loving me!
Second, I know (through faith ultimately) that I am redeemed by the blood of Christ. I am walking daily in a relationship with God and have confessed every sin I am aware of. So, if I were to die right now, I believe I would be saved (trusting in the promises in the scripture).
Now (and here is where Catholic theology differs from many Protestants) it is POSSIBLE that between now and the end of my earthly life, I might reject God. I have no intention of doing so. But the Christian life is a spiritual battle and satan never sleeps.
As St Paul said: "I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air but I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching others, I myself might be disqualified." (1 Corinthians 9:27)
I have no intention of falling away from God, and have the promise "Now unto Him who is able to keep you from falling.... etc" I'm sure you know the verse from Jude.
But I guess this is where there is a subtle difference between Catholic theology and the "once saved, always saved" viewpoint. I don't want to pre-judge that, because I don' like attacking somebody's believe when I don't know all the nuances of it. But it seems (to my probably ill-informed understanding) that some Protestants believe that as long as they have prayed the sinner's prayer and been "born again": then they are saved, no matter what they might do from that point.
Martin Luther is supposed to have said he could commit adultery 100 times a day and it wouldn't affect his salvation. (That's only hearsay, so maybe he didn't actually say that). That would be heresy according to Catholic theology.
@@chrismole1315 thank you Chris for your time and effort.
I am neither protestant nor catholic by the way. By grace I am a christian and by grace through faith I am saved. And all of it is a gift of God. I was a non-believer but when I was at my lowest point Jesus opened my eyes for the truth of the bible. I tried to find in churches/religion what I had experienced, and the simple truth that was revealed to me through scripture, but couldnt find it.
Thats I believe a problem with religion. They take something so pure an simple like the gospel, the cross, the grace, and make it complicated, adding on to it. I would suggest, keep it simple and clean as it is.
Jesus did all the work for us because we couldnt and we cant. All we "do" is turning to Him but it is Him pulling us towards Him. He knows how weak and useless we are. Sinners! We deserve to go to hell, but by no longer relying on our own rightiousness but on Christ alone, who justifies us, we can live. By grace.
Thats so beautiful. And I think you already know, but its worth being preached over and over until the 2nd coming of our Lord. God bless you.
Mary is not a blessed virgin. She was before Christ was born but not after she had other children of her own.
It was never proven that Jesus had any siblings.
@@colindupuis5585 Read Matthew 13:55-56 where His brothers are mentioned.
@@Justas399 many believe they were step siblings from Joseph or even cousins. Many books such as the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Peter state that his siblings were from Joseph before he married Mary. Even though these books never made it to the Bible they are historical. You Protestants read one thing and believe it debunks a whole belief. Try reading next time. God Bless
@@colindupuis5585 These brothers were not cousins. The same word used for brothers in Matthew 13:55 is the same word used for Peter and Andrew who were also brothers in Matthew 4:18. They both had the same biological mother.
@@Justas399 In the original text of the gospel, we find the Greek word adelphos, meaning brothers, used. However, adelphos does not just mean blood brothers born of the same parents. Rather, adelphos was used to describe brothers not born of the same parents, like a half-brother or step-brother. The word also described other relationships like cousins, nephews, uncles, etc. For example in Genesis 13:8 and 14:14-16, the word adelphoswas used to describe the relationship between Abraham and Lot
Many protestants think that catholics do not have personal relationship with Jesus. Pl think abt how many priests and catholics have been persecuted because of their faith in God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit! Protestants may think that they are saved coz they feel very emotional abt Jesus and think that the Holy Spirit has made them emotional!
“Born again” in John 3:5, refers to baptism. Read the early Church Fathers, they all apply this passage to baptismal regeneration.
Yes, indeed, and you are right. The Baptism is the 1st Sacrament a Catholic receives which open the doors to other Sacraments. Our Lord ordered the Apostles "baptize and then teach to OBSERVE ALL I have commanded (Matt 28:19-20)." This Divine order was given to His Church, and no other churches have Divine permission to give this Sacrament (because they reject His Church, and thereby reject also Our Lord). Therefore, the baptism given in protestant churches are invalid -- means they are not reborn in spirit at all. The Sacrament of Baptism removes the stain of the Original Sin, forgives personal sins committed up to that time, and restores the Sanctifying Grace in the soul. Without the sanctifying Grace, one cannot enter Heaven.
Interesting how you left the "Spirit" part out of it. Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit".
Baptism is symbolic and it's not what saves you, being born again is a Spiritual transformation and it happens by faith alone which is why baptism of babies is not biblical. The Catholic church does not live by the Bible alone so they can claim to be the "divine universal only true" church of God and control people. Hum I know other organizations that do that (Mormons and Jehova Witnesses)
@@kaboom9081 Your understanding is completely wrong. The Baptism is one of the seven Sacraments Our Lord instituted in His One, Holy, Catholic (Universal), Apostolic Church, His Body. The Sacrament of Baptism makes the baptized a member of His Church (e.g., Acts 2:41, 9:18), removing the stain of the Original Sin and restoring the Grace (that was lost due to the Original Sin) in his soul so that God dwells in the soul. The dead soul before the Baptism is re-born and alive again through this Sacrament. People outside of the Catholic Church presume that they are re-born, but it is far from the Truth. 'Desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither the things they say nor whereof they affirm (1 Tim 1:7)' applies to them. Our Lord is the Savior of His Body (Eph 5:23), namely true members of His Church. Anyone, who truly believes and is destined to be redeemed, comes to His Church, where Our Lord remains always until the end of ages (Matt 28:20)!
@@hyeminkwun9523 Yes yes I know all these arguments because I was born in a Catholic home. But when I read scripture myself, I can tell you the catholic church is very close to a cult. The catholic church didn't even exist when Christ went back to heaven. I have so many issues with the catholic church including purgatory, rosary, elevating Mary to worship status, statues idolatry, the pope which by the way, the papacy didn't exist until the 300's and Peter was married and he never went to Rome. All catholic traditions come from Roman idolatry mixed with the Gospel. They don't walk by faith but what they can see which is opposite to what Jesus taught.
Baptism is a step of obedience for all who have come to faith in Christ. The water is symbolic of our old self dying and the new person being born again Spiritually but both water and Spirit are separate things. There is NO holy water and it has no power. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is what has Power to regenerate a sinner into a child of God. Once you are sealed by the Holy Spirit you do NOT lose your salvation and no, your salvation does not depend on being a "member" of a self-proclaimed organized man-made religion. You make it sound like you're a member of an elite club. Yeah sounds pretty cult-ish to me. Jesus is a personal God and He wants a personal relationship with YOU, not become another Pharisee.
@@kaboom9081 I see that you deny the Truth taught by the Catholic Church and chose to believe protestant's instead. But what you stated on the Church history are completely wrong. Please chech the history carefully. Our Lord is the Head of His Church and remains, together with the Holy Spirit (John 14: 16-17), always with Her; therefore, the Catholic Church can never lie.
How do you explain the eucharist miracles?
Please explain?
@@peacefulwife5199 Catholics believe that Jesus is truly present in the bread and wine.
From time to time it happens that one of them, or both, really turn into flesh and blood, and some of those miracles have been examined by doctors and forensics experts, showing for example that the flesh is from the heart muscle of an individual that suffered a severe heart attack, but continued living for some time after that.
Also there are some miracles that occured 800 years ago, which have been examined, and the people who conducted the examination thought that the flesh was still fresh.
Satan can do magic. 2 Thessalonians 2:9
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
It is possible the church lied about them or someone faked them.
@@True_Patriotx That's been debunked.
Catholics once born again would leave the Catholic church and it's idolatrous by leading of Holy Spirit.
I have known ex Catholics become born again and leave it all.
I was baptised with an ex catholic on same day ,was amazing .
Mel Ashby // Was born again when I was 5 about to turn 6, always loved the Scriptures, served on a number of mission trips through the SBC and NAMB, and let me be the first to tell you that as a college student I came into the Catholic Church (actually as a Greek Catholic, something you probably haven’t heard of-we have married priests, confess to Christ in Confession, etc.) I never betrayed my background as an evangelical Christian, in fact I see myself as an evangelical Catholic Christian. I continue to go to non-denom and SBC congregations, even as I live the full life of a Catholic. I would love to talk with you about what brought me into the Catholic Church. It started with Muslims having visions of Christ and being sent, not just to Protestants, but also to Eastern Orthodox Christians to hear the Gospel and to come into Christianity. I was confronted with God saving people into Catholicism, and I couldn’t get away from it. A lot of Catholic beliefs and practices are either idolatry or true, there is no other alternative. So here I am, here I stand, I can do no other. Unless I can be shown by Sacred Scripture or by plain reason, I cannot do otherwise. My conscience is bound to the Word of God. And here I am.
No one ever left the Catholic Church to live a better life.
You worship a church like it is g-d what the hell is wrong with you?
@@aaronlalembaarook5626 The Catholic Church is the mystical body and mystical bride of Christ.
No that’s blasphemy. The Catholic Church is a pagan Antichrist Church.
@johnsteila6049 *Bible does not teach "water baptise to be saved". Bible teaches "believe in Jesus to be saved", John 3:16. And it's not by works, Eph 2:8-9. Roman religion teaches man made doctrine of Works Salvation anathematised by Scriptures. Gal 1:8-9.*
you said
Catholics are born again through baptism as taught by Jesus in The Bible.
Who came up with your ideas?..
With all due respect:
Every single Catholic is born again by virtue of its Baptism and Confirmation.
The Councils are the process of discerning Holy Scriptures and providing truthful interpretation. The Church produced Holy Scriptures and called it The Word of God by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Hence you believe them to be Word of God because of God's only true Church, the Catholic Church.
May God inspire your church to the one truth one day.
God bless.
The Church produced Holy Scripture?????
That's lie from the mouth of Satan!
You should actually look at a Bible!!
The Bible is the Word of God....He inspired it , wrote it. .it has nothing to do with the RCC!
The RCC is a false pagan and apostate church and Cult that leads people to hell!
Here's Truth:
"cbcg.org Roman catholism vs Biblical Christianity"
We ARE SAVED (past tense), we ARE BEING SAVED (present tense), and we hope that we WILL BE SAVED (future tense). We are saved from our sins by faith alone, and we will be saved from death by faith with works, if we abide in Christ, doing the works that he tells us to do. Salvation past (Eph 2v8-9), present (1Cor 1v18), and future (Rom 5v9).
We are save by faith that leads to good works of not by Gods grace.
If we are not save by faith and good works it is by Gods grace like the man on the cross with Jesus. Today you will be with me in paradise said Jesus. By Gods grace
I think the gospel is for believers and unbelievers equally. I don't see any difference between salvation past and present as you do. After being saved we remain in need of forgiveness as much as before salvation, "God have mercy of me a sinner" Luke 18:13 is the cry of a Christian his entire life.
We are saved by GRACE. Not by Faith. Saved by Faith is works based. Our salvation is God’s work, all we bring is our sin and desperate need for a savior.
Incorrect...once you are saved by God...that's it...it's His salvation...it's His work!
Please google bereanbeacon.org
Go and sin no more. If you’re practicing idolatry you are still in sin
JUAN JIMENEZ
I CONCUR. ISN'T THIS IRONIC. THIS IS COMING FROM A TRUE CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN. GOD BLESS YOU.
Yeah
Ya worshipping mary is idolatry
@Peter Cho Jesus indirectly tells one of the woman not to exalt anyone above God in Luke,“and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, "A pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons."”
- Luke 2:24 Mary is just like us she was a sinner,two dove was offered as a sacrifice for her as per jewish custom,.....“And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.”
- Luke 1:47 says admit she's a sinner and needs a saviour,Mary was a tool to fulfil God's promise just like God used Paul,Peter for His kingdom,He used Mary to bring forth a saviour of this world...Romans 3:23 says we all are sinners “No one is good but One, that is, God.”
- Mark 10:18 in this verse Jesus didn't tell except Mary,He straightly tell the people no one is good except God,and Jesus is God Himself
@Peter Cho sorry to say my friend instead of relying and trusting in God's word you are trusting the book which was made by catholic and from their perspective,look what Bible says 1.) Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines.For it is good that the heart be established by grace,not with foods which have profited those who have been occupied with them Hebrews 13:9 that we should no longer be children,tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind if doctrine,by the trickery of men,in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting..,,,another one 2Jn 1 (NKJV)
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⁹ Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
¹⁰ If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
1Tim 6 (NKJV)
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³ If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,
⁴ he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions,
read the Bible yourself instead of reading cathechism book and for your kinf information Mary is not mother of salvation “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."”
- Acts 4:12,stop living in delusion my friend satan wants you to believe in lies God doesn't have a mother,He is a Spirit Mary was mother of Jesus,God's human part....and please stop following man-made traditions “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”
- Colossians 2:8 lastly idol worshipping keeping Jesus statues is not God's will Paul strictly warns about this Acts 17
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²³ for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you:
²⁴ God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
²⁵ Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.
²⁶ And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
²⁷ so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;
²⁸ for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'
²⁹ Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising.
³⁰ Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,
When one is baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, one is born again. Being born again is not a guarantee of salvation. Only those who persevere to the end (Matthew 10:22) will be saved.
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Can heretical Protestants be saved?
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. - Matt 23:9
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. - 1 Tim 2:5
It only takes 2 verses to prove Catholicism goes against the New Testament. If Catholics read their Bible instead of letting the priest read for them then they'll eventually find the truth.
What part goes against the Catholic faith? If you actually understand Catholic doctrine you wouldn't make such claims. There are also many verses where Jesus sets up the Catholic Church as his institution on Earth. I don't recall him setting up any other churches
If "call no man father" were taken literally you could not call your own natural father "father".
Jesus is the One Mediator between God and the human race. That doesn't mean we can't ask people to pray for us, either people we know on earth or saints already in Heaven.
Knowing Thomas - Remember that in I Corinthians 4:14-15, the Apostle Paul refers to himself as “father”:
"I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel"
In addition, the context of Matthew 23 emphasises the sin of pride among the scribes and Pharisees. They loved to be called “teacher”, “father”, or “Rabbi,” but their pride pointed men to themselves rather than to God the Father. Jesus is condemning hypocrisy - not the actual use of the word 'father'.
It sounds as though you love the Bible so I do hope you will read these passages carefully to understand the context and exactly what is being taught. God Bless.
@@candyclews4047 yea but how does that go against Catholics
@@candyclews4047 in that passage Jesus is talking about hypocrisy of the scribes and pharasees . He didn't literally say don't use the word father. You have to look at the context. You told me to look deeper but what are you looking at. God bless
If a Devout Roman Catholic believes in everything their religion teaches especially Faith + works then they aren't truly born again. If they got saved and are ignorant of the teachings, sooner or later when they learn about the truth they will leave.
So, in order to be born again, you have to be ignorant of the Catholic Church, leave the Catholic Church, and then lie about the Catholic Church.
@@georgepierson4920 *You do not sound intelligent. Roman religion was is not the Universal Church or Church CHrist founded like what Roman pagan religion claimed. Bible does not say so.*
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So, in order to be born again, you have to be ignorant of the Catholic Church, leave the Catholic Church, and then lie about the Catholic Church.
I am a Catholic Christian who believes Jesus Christ's salvation alone by grace is what saves us. I attend a Catholic Church but I know how we are really saved having once been in a Protestant Church. I think that this is why I was sent to the Catholic Church. Jesus Christ is the Head of the church period. I believe the Pope is a religious leader and nothing more. The word of God alone is what I use. I tell people I read my bible. Mary is not above Christ at all and I still believe this regardless. I pray that someday Catholics who don't know the truth will learn it and teach other Catholics the same. Baptism doesn't save us. Only Christ does. I don't believe in indulgences and never will adhere to it.
Speak up and leave the church
@@aaronlalembaarook5626 I'm there for a reason. There is a shift. Not enough priests etc. It will eventually fold.
Amy P There may be a "shift" in the R.C. Church, but it's moving farther away from biblical principles towards hard left liberalism. Abortion is deemed acceptable by many Catholics and under the present Pope, homosexuality is no longer considered an abomination. The conservative R.C. stance exemplified by Pope John Paul I and the late Bishop Fulton J. Sheen has long since vanished.
@@Christian_Girl120 They have been saying the Church will fold for 2000 years, I think you should trust Jesus more and his promise not unless you think Jesus lied.
I don't believe you're really catholic. You've spouted garbage that Protestants spew endlessly about Catholicism, that are lies. For example, Catholics do NOT put Mary above Christ. That is a lie, and you would know that, were you Catholic.
God desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:4! Yes!
Thank you for the help Pastor John. To God be the glory, our only portion in heaven. Praise the LORD!
He is clear on lies and misrepresentation of Catholicism .....Scripture is very clear when it says, “But nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Hab. 1:13 says, “You [God]… are of purer eyes than to behold evil and cannot look on wrong…” How many of us will be perfectly sanctified at the time of our deaths? I dare say most of us will be in need of further purification in order to enter the gates of heaven after we die, if, please God, we die in a state of grace.
In light of this, the truth about Purgatory is almost self-evident to Catholics.
The Old Testament people of God would not have called it “Purgatory,” but they did clearly believe that the sins of the dead could be atoned for by the living as I will now prove. This is a constitutive element of what Catholics call “Purgatory.”
In II Maccabees 12:39-46, we discover Judas Maccabeus and members of his Jewish military forces collecting the bodies of some fallen comrades who had been killed in battle. When they discovered these men were carrying “sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear” (vs. 40), Judas and his companions discerned they had died as a punishment for sin. Therefore, Judas and his men “turned to prayer beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out… He also took up a collection… and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably… Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.”
Rejecting the inspiration and canonicity of II Maccabees does not negate its historical value. Maccabees aids us in knowing, purely from an historical perspective at the very least, the Jews believed in praying and making atonement for the dead shortly before the advent of Christ. This is the faith in which Jesus and the apostles were raised. And it is in this context Jesus declares in the New Testament:
And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:32, ).
This declaration of our Lord implies there are at least some sins that can be forgiven in the next life to a people who already believed it.
First of all, a careful reading of the text reveals the sin of these men to be carrying small amulets “or sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia” under their tunics as they were going in to battle. This would be closer to a Christian baseball player believing there is some kind of power in his performing superstitious rituals before going to bat than it would be to the mortal sin of idolatry. This was, most likely, a venial sin for them. But even if what they did would have been objectively grave matter, good Jews in ancient times-just like good Catholics today-believed they should always pray for the souls of those who have died “for thou [O Lord], thou only knowest the hearts of the children of men” (II Chr. 6:30). God alone knows the degree of culpability of these “sinners.” Moreover, some or all of them may have repented before they died. Both Jews and Catholic Christians always retain hope for the salvation of the deceased this side of heaven; thus, we always pray for those who have died.
In Matthew 5:24-25, Jesus is even more explicit about Purgatory.
Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny (Matthew 5:25-26).
For Catholics, Tertullian for example, in De Anima 58, written in ca. AD 208, this teaching is parabolic, using the well-known example of “prison” and the necessary penitence it represents, as a metaphor for Purgatorial suffering that will be required for lesser transgressions, represented by the “kodrantes” or “penny” of verse 26. But for many Protestants, our Lord is here giving simple instructions to his followers concerning this life exclusively. This has nothing to do with Purgatory.
This traditional Protestant interpretation is very weak contextually. These verses are found in the midst of the famous “Sermon on the Mount,” where our Lord teaches about heaven (vs. 20), hell (vs. 29-30), and both mortal (vs. 22) and venial sins (vs. 19), in a context that presents “the Kingdom of Heaven” as the ultimate goal (see verses 3-12). Our Lord goes on to say if you do not love your enemies, “what reward have you” (verse 46)? And he makes very clear these “rewards” are not of this world. They are “rewards from your Father who is in heaven” (6:1) or “treasures in heaven” (6:19).
Further, as St. John points out in John 20:31, all Scripture is written “that believing, you may have [eternal] life in his name.” Scripture must always be viewed in the context of our full realization of the divine life in the world to come. Our present life is presented “as a vapor which appears for a little while, and afterwards shall vanish away” (James 1:17). It would seem odd to see the deeper and even “other worldly” emphasis throughout the Sermon of the Mount, excepting these two verses.
When we add to this the fact that the Greek word for prison, phulake, is the same word used by St. Peter, in I Peter 3:19, to describe the “holding place” into which Jesus descended after his death to liberate the detained spirits of Old Testament believers, the Catholic position makes even more sense. Phulake is demonstrably used in the New Testament to refer to a temporary holding place and not exclusively in this life.
I Corinthians 3:11-15 may well be the most straightforward text in all of Sacred Scripture when it comes to Purgatory:
For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble-each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
No Christian sect I know of even attempts to deny this text speaks of the judgment of God where the works of the faithful will be tested after death. It says our works will go through “fire,” figuratively speaking. In Scripture, “fire” is used metaphorically in two ways: as a purifying agent (Mal. 3:2-3; Matt. 3:11; Mark 9:49); and as that which consumes (Matt. 3:12; 2 Thess. 1:7-8). So it is a fitting symbol here for God’s judgment. Some of the “works” represented are being burned up and some are being purified. These works survive or burn according to their essential “quality” (Gr. hopoiov - of what sort).
What is being referred to cannot be heaven because there are imperfections that need to be “burned up” (see again, Rev. 21:27, Hab. 1:13). It cannot be hell because souls are being saved. So what is it? The Protestant calls it “the Judgment” and we Catholics agree. We Catholics simply specify the part of the judgment of the saved where imperfections are purged as “Purgatory.”
The Protestant respondent will immediately spotlight the fact that there is no mention, at least explicitly, of “the cleansing of sin” anywhere in the text. There is only the testing of works. The focus is on the rewards believers will receive for their service, not on how their character is cleansed from sin or imperfection. And the believers here watch their works go through the fire, but they escape it!
First, what are sins, but bad or wicked works (see Matthew 7:21-23, John 8:40, Galatians 5:19-21)? If these “works” do not represent sins and imperfections, why would they need to be eliminated? Second, it is impossible for a “work” to be cleansed apart from the human being who performed it. We are, in a certain sense, what we do when it comes to our moral choices. There is no such thing as a “work” floating around somewhere detached from a human being that could be cleansed apart from that human being. The idea of works being separate from persons does not make sense. (Thanks to C A ) 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@Kendrick Simms Out of faith there must be Works as shown in the Bible !
@@1234poppycat your using a faulty book. Purgatory gives false hope which has many die in sin that can't be repented of
@@hijohojo2868 I use the bible with all 73 books not the one with 66 books cos less than 500 years ago they cut out what they did not like -- you have not got all the picture !!
@@1234poppycat those books were cut because they contradictef real scripture. Those extra books were never part of the Torah. They were folk tales.
Catholic Church is the true Church.