The horrific stuff Jack went through, particularly in Torchwood, and went on to be an absolute paragon of kindness shows how strong his character's will is. He could have easily grown to be as selfish or disinterested as Me/Ashildr, but his determination and love of The Doctor gives him such a strength of virtue and something to live up to. Absolutely fantastic character.
I've always thought Jack got his head lobbed off, which survived on its own, but he regrew another head because he's immortal. I like to think that lobbed off head became the Face of Boe, but could only last for so long, given it's only a head and not a full body. The actual Jack on the other hand, blissfully unaware that he had a twin head-brother, is still going around the universe somewhere. I suppose you could call it my head canon
The Face of Boe = Jack fails the smell test of the earlier episodes that the Face was in or was reported on by other characters. He is spoken of as always being the face, and being both male and female... having said to have given birth, and of being of an ancient race millions of years old (which means older than the race of humans or timelords).
@@josephteller9715 I always thought he went the LONGEST way around. As in he went through the death of this Universe and continued living through consecutive Universes till our Universe reappeared from the nothingness. An Ultimate Time Loop.
Jack still ages. Just very very slowly. He aged so slowly he "evolved". I'd venture a guess and say that any human, given enough time, would end up the same or similar.
@NemoConsequentae And in Children of Earth they blew him up then tried to seal him in concrete. Dude literally goes through hell, no wonder he makes some questionable choices in that series.
I think the Master should get at least an honorable mention here. Despite them often dying in ways that prevent regeneration, they ALWAYS come back. Missy was hit by Harold Saxon's laser screwdriver, preventing regeneration, yet she still reappeared as O, Yana came back after the Master was trapped in what is tantamount to another dimension entirely, and Harold Saxon came back from literal death after he refused to regenerate after getting shot - and those are just a few examples.
Missy used a device on herself that reprograms her molecules, letting her get a whole set of regeneration. But otherwise, I'm pretty sure the rest of their deaths are him being pulled out of time by the time lords
Actually, and I know this will sound pedantic, but I don't know of it has been establish that Sacha Dhawan's version followed on from Missy. I know the chances are slim, but that iteration could have come from a) an incarnation we hadn't seen in the classic series, or even between Simms and Missy. I hope he didn't follow on, as Sacha version totally undoes all the character growth from her time with Capaldi.
@@gestaltdude its is possible that the Q version of the master is possibly a regeneration after the original 1st master since the actor died and we never saw him regenerating
@@omegagamer4124 My point exactly. We know The Master burned through all his original regenerations quickly, I think this was state in The Deadly Assassin. We also know he was resurrected to fight in the Time War, so that's a minimum of 25 versions of himself, of which we have seen six; Roger Delgado, Anthony Ainsley, Eric Roberts, John Simms, Michelle Gomez, and Sacha Dhawan. Geoffrey Beevers also played Melkur in Keeper of Traken, though that was simply the outward form of his TARDIS. Thus I find it simplistic to assume that the ones we have seen must have followed each other. Dhawan's version seems much more in keeping with the attitude displayed by Delgado's, for example, though I believe it sage to say Gomez followed Simms, as she had some of his memories.
We've lost Bernard Cribbins🙁. Our beloved Wilfred Mott. He has left this mortal coil aged 93yrs. I'm so sad. He was one of my favorites from the new series. RIP Mr Cribbins, you will be sorely missed♥️🙁
Just knowing how we've had to wait for the 60th and with Bernard Cribbins moving into another realm... Knowing we will see Wilf one last time makes my hearts break all over again 💔💔
Believe me, it gets even worse for Borusa in the Time War, as he's turned into something else by Rassilon. His biology and timeline got changed by Rassilon to turn him into something called the Probability Engine, a being that can see all possible timelines at once, to act as a strategy computer to use against the Daleks. In the end, the Doctor helped him die as he used a temporal anomaly to erase a Dalek superweapon from history.
I'm surprised River Song didn't make this list as well, considering how much she is loved by you, combined with her being uploaded to the mega computer in the library, in essence making her immortal!
honestly The Master should be on this list for practical purposes, yes he is a timelord, but he has so many additional ways to cheat death, and ignore the limit that he might as well be immortal
The Guardians are technically immortal. The Beast in the Satan Pit is technically immortal by being pre-existent to this universe, even if his body has been destroyed or trapped in a Black Hole. The Fendahl and the Osirans also are potentially immortal. The Great Intelligence might be immortal, despite being defeated by the Doctor and Clara. Fenrick and the gods of Ragnarok are other immortals.
The Osirans were not immortal they just had a really long lifespan they could live for thousands of years their time travel technology wasn't as good as the Time Lord's IT produced a lot of time spillage, which would be absorbed by the traveller. If someone went backwards in time or forwards in time by a thousand years, the traveller would also age a thousand years this how the Doctor beat The evil Osiran Sutekh he sent the other end of Sutekh's time portal so far into the future that he died of old age before he could get to the earth.
The Beast in The Satan Pit (correct me if I'm wrong, working of off memory) was said to be lying by the Doctor. Later the Doctor doubted himself on that. The words were untranslatable by the Tardis. The explanation given (remember: by the Beast) was they predated time as he did. I think it's fair to say it is possible the Beast was lying and the Doctor just never worked out how. It's also possible the Beast is telling the truth. Either way, put an asterisk next to it! Again, if I recall correctly, it didn't seem as though the Doctor was fully satisfied with the explanation at the end of the episode, just more willing to entertain the possibility.
@@David-qi1ys The Doctor thinking it was impossible for The Beast being pre universe doesn't make sense especially when The Doctor has already faced off against pre universe beings like The Gods of Ragnarok and the Eternals before hell even The Guardians are pre universe
@@melficeskye292 Legitimate question. If I were to say the Doctor's beef was that the Beast was pre TIME, not pre universe, would that just be semantics? Particularly (I don't know the Whoniverses take), there's a theory that there've been multiple Big Bangs and collapses. IE the universe rebooting itself. So pre universe (given that scenario, whatever plausibility you give for it) is far easier to achieve.
I like to think we'll see the reason for this: that the Doctor -- in some incarnation, or another Time Lord, or (my favorite idea, maybe) Jenny -- is somehow able to take his Immortality from him as a gift to him, a reward for his long service to the Universe.
You could argue that the Face of Boe is technically an alternate identity. So you could argue that Jack Harkness never died, he just changed to the Face of Boe, and the Face of Boe died. Jack Harkness isn't around anymore (time shenanigans not withstanding), but technically, he never died as Jack Harkness, therefore Jack Harkness can never die.
Technically he didn't die as the face of boe he just became too old to move while he can't die he still ages and his body still deteriorates but doesn't die from it so he just became too old to move which is similar to death
I don’t think the Doctor has ever been more terrifying than what he did to the Family of Blood. The one that hits the hardest is daughter-of-mine. What did he do to the universe to make that possible!?!?
I believe that both the villains from the episodes Waters of Mars and Silence in the library are immortal, if not then they are very close to immortal.
The silence aren’t immortal their just really powerful and have time travel but they can die, the waters on mars are technically immortal but it’s also just a parasite and was supposedly destroyed in the explosion but then again ‘parasite’ (hope this helps)
I don't think they mean The Silence. They mean Vashta Nerada, the "villains" from the episode Silence In the Library. Vashta Nerada aren't immortal. *grammar edit
I've never understood why "drop them into a black hole" isn't a near-permanent way of disposing of an immortal creature. Even if they don't die, they're going to be trapped in place until the black hole evaporates (approximately 10^100 years), at which point they're still floating in a void.
one character who was immortal when we met him was Mawdwin in the story Mawdwin undead. He and some associates tried to steal the Time Lord secret of regeneration but screwed up sentencing themselves to eternal torment. However this was resolved when the 5th Doctor was going to use his own regenerative powers to end their suffering and allow them to die. In the end it was the energy of the Blinavitch limitation effect, released when past Brigadeer met future Brigadeer that did the trick so they did escape immortality and finally die.
In "The War Games" it was made clear that the Time Lords were immortal, barring accidents. It wasn't until "The Deadly Assassin" that the rules were rewritten
I thought the Doctors regeneration cap was done away with when Matt Smith got all that power before he regenerated. It will be interesting to see will Chibnall try and do something with the impossible child or has it been left to Russel T Davis
Good list, it was a reminder to me since running through all of the available classic episodes on britbox before catching up to current. However, it did bring to mind the Guardians and the whole Key to Time serial. Each guardian has a champion, one of which is the Doctor, and are not above using humans to their own advantage. Just remembering the Family of Blood is yet another reminder that once pushed to extreme limits, he will do what is deemed necessary.
In the episode "Love and Monsters" Ursula Blake was absorbed by the Abzorbaloff. But at the end of that episode she was unabsorbed and was just a face in the stone, is she immortal? Also Clara is Immortal.
The Sisterhood of Karn was made perfectly well-known in the episode of their creation, The Brain of Morbius. They are a group which had discovered a miracle, an elixir unique to the planet of Karn which replenishes life as long as it was drank. It was the proverbial if not ACTUAL Fountain of Youth. Their purpose was clearly to guard it, make sure it isn't abused throughout the universe, as that would change the face of time and space forever. Case in point, the point and plot of Morbius was that he was a renegade Timelord who wished to build an everlasting immortal empire on the secret of Karn, which he discovered and started a war to end all wars over. His body was disintegrated as punishment, and once again Karn was forbidden any trespassers, to the point where the Sisterhood will crash and kill anybody within their mental sphere. How you didn't gather this from watching the episode, I don't know. How you didn't gather this from a wikia, I *really* don't know.
I do love how sinister-feeling everything is, when 12 visits them to hide from Davros at the start of Series 9. I would love to see more Karn in the upcoming RTD 2.0 era
The five doctors was not Borusa’s final fate, though his meddling with the tomb of Rassilon is still his eventual undoing. As during the Last Great Time War Borusa is revived, and then subjected to horrific human (gallifreyan?) experimentation at Rassilon’s hand, where he is forced into a state of constant regeneration where he dies and regenerates over and over and over again constantly. This unending torment has the benefit of forcing him to confront the entirety of the time vortex, which most timelords only directly experience during the moment of regeneration, and thus he is able to see the past and future and predict the course of events even during the thick of the time war (think of him like Bad Wolf, but without the powers, only the knowledge). Rassilon specifically engineered him for this purpose to create his “possibility engine” (just Borusa, hooked up to some suitably horrific cybernetics) to help him make strategic decisions about the war. The War Doctor eventually freed Borusa from the possibility engine, and took him to the Tantalus Spiral, where the Daleks were constructing a planetary Demat gun to wipe Gallifreys from history. By stepping into the Eye of Isha (a space time anomaly that created the spiral) Borusa was able to undo the dalek engineering of the demat gun, and thereby to save the several billion humans who lived on worlds within the tantalus spiral. This process presumably kills him, since his motivation for helping the doctor was to commit suicide so that his torment could end. So he did actually die. Eventually. Though whether it will stick or not, considering he’s been dead before, remains to be seen. Though of all the deaths that are likely to be permanent on doctor who, that does seem like one that would be hard to reverse.
Jack is just like Ban from Seven deadly sins (anime) they are not killable by any means but the invincibility is limited in a manner, for Ban that was only because of the weird way he obtained it, and for Jack in this case its because he only got a certain amount of energy from Rose, yes i just Crossed Anime and Scifi doctor who but it fit good so yes.
The one thing i always wondered is the son that became the scarecrow, well what do you think happened to him if the land was developed on and the workers found a body in a scarecrow costume not dead yet unresponsive, would this have been a great episode for torchwood
Is Captain Jack / Boe really dead? Remember when he pumped life energy into Abaddon? He was dead for several days at least. It is possible we saw Boe "die" as he poured his energy into opening the doors. But like always, maybe a few days later ... he was back, jack.
Not as long as Barrowman is alive, in my opinion. Always a chance he'll show up in the role. The Face of Boe death is too far in the future to really count.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc if the rumours of indecent exposure on set are true then I doubt the BBC would risk him ever coming back in anything again. Even Torchwood.
the regeneration limit for The Doctor has not been removed it might be removed if The doctor ever uses the fobwatch found in season 13 episode 6. My theory on Jack is That the Bad Wolf since she could see all of time and space, she actually knew when to stop for Jack.
You forgot the weeping angels, the celestial toymaker (although it's pretty sure he's an eternal, the first we encountered) and the Monk (although he's a time lord like the doctor)
Are they really immortal though? They "quantum lock" IFsomeone is looking at them, which IIRC the Doctor described as a "perfect defense", but what about other times?
well we don’t know The Doctor has infinite regenerations - they had 12 (explained in TTC) and then the time lords granted them an unknown number more in Time of the Doctor, but it’s assumed they granted one more cycle
For better or worse the Doctor was retconned as a being from another universe whose capabilities time-lord regeneration was based on in the first place, they had at least one cycles worth of regenerations before the "first" doctor, it was just removed from their memories. A massive chekov's gun is a fob-watch supposedly containing said memories knocking around in the Tardis somewhere.
@@jtfbreedlove I can only hope RTD fixes that, it sorta just makes the Doctor feel like they're just an average mc, someone who's only like this because they're good incarnate, they're built different. The Doctor felt like anyone could be like them, you didn't need to be a being made of sunshine to do good, a main character who in our society is a god but in their own is on the level of your average vagabond
Not exactly: there was that massive explosion which destroyed the Daleks when the Timelord Council funnelled the artron energy into him in order to grant the new twelve regenerations cycle. It could be argued that the Doctor already had infinite regenerations (being the Timeless Child) and nobody knew (except The Division, who are even more secret than the Celestial Intervention Agency), so it basically overflowed and caused the destruction of the Daleks in that episode.
#11 Melody Pond. (River Song) While she did die on screen [The Library Doctor 10] she has one of the largest loopholes in Whovian Lore. That twenty-four year long night at the Singing Towers of Darillium, with Doctor 12 one mighty huge loophole. Technically dead she can pop up in any episode she wants to providing the writers agree.
This is a great point. 11 did something similar before going to Lake Silencio at the end of S7. If you're a time traveller and you already know exactly when and where you're going to die, you could just not go there, and theoretically avoid death forever.
Okay, I just figured on Sarah Jane Smith, that clown Odd Bob/Pied Piper was immortal too! All they could do is lock him back in the meteor he came from.
Just read a long stretch of comments about Clara's situation. She DIED! Her death is a fixed point in time,she was collected by the glass people. In her last scene,with Me,she is technically Undead! She is existing between her last heartbeat and infinity! Undead,not resurrected,not immortal,UNDEAD!!
First Doctor: "The mind is indestructible. So is the Toymaker." Toymaker: "Do you know what would happen if I died?" Charley Pollard: "No. What?" Toymaker: "Nothing. Absolutely nothing. A brief interlude of silence, and then I return."
3:29 Ashildr was not 100% immortal she could be killed if she sustained enough injuries like beheading so she could die but was just carefull enough not to die. 6:41 Finally a video about immortal tv/movie charecters who mentions that Jack does die at the end of time. The part with Rex Matheson he probably got the same fate as Jack didnt they say that "Face of Boe" was the last of the Boe kind so maybe there was another one who just died earlier.
Rex received a lesser version of Jacks immortality. With Jack it was his entire being that was removed from death by the Bad Wolf, with Rex it was merely the transfused blood that he received from Jack. Remove all trace of Jacks blood from Rex, and you remove his immortality. I'm not sure that even disintegration is enough to destroy Jack, as his consciousness may be pinned to his immortality and regenerate his body rather than just his body regenerating from death.
@@13g0man Where is it mentioned that Rex has a lesser version of the immortallity? Because all we see is that he comes back to life and his body fully heals and he says "You World War II what did you do to me?" and then the series end. And if you look it up on google the first hit is the Torchwood wikipedia where it says (Rex's role as a second male hero in the series leads him to clash with returning male lead Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) and eventually becomes immortal in the same vein as Harkness.) So according to that he is immortal in the same way as Jack...
Lol, Littlechild. What a great name!! Imagine going to school. Teacher: What's your surname? Ellie: Littlechild Teacher: Yea I know you are, but what's your surname? Ellie: No really, I'm a Littlechild, like my father, and his father before him. Teacher: What? What are you talking about. How old is your father? Wonder how many teacher's brains got fried by this. Imagine in college!! "Somebody hit Littlechild!!". "What? Why? Also, how did a little child end up on the college grounds?" You see how this can be an extremely confusing surname. I bet she has a gazillion stories of where people got confused. She should make a video, just telling all these stories. I would certainly watch it.
if I don't remember wrong, it was a long long time ago, the doctor used part of the tardis to send somebody "to the future" implying that he didn't sent him to a future date but doomed to travel forever to the future, never to reach destination. I'm unsure if my memory is playing games with me or if this counts as being unnable to die, but it's a harsh fate. forever traveling through time, unnable to interact with anything in any way.
I also hope a new version of (Rex Matheson) could appear in the near future someday. I can imagine that REX works with (Captain Jack Harkness) & I imagine they formed their own secret agency.
I don't know if I can even express how much I HATE that RTD doubled down on Jack being The Face of Bo, because it makes so much more sense for Rex Matheson to be Bo. Jack heard The Doctor and Martha talking about TFOB and had NO reaction to it (Episode: Utopia) then claimed it was him after a year of dying with The Master. Easy to claim it was a joke... Meanwhile, Rex's immortality was dependent on the existence of Earth. It would explain why he was there to watch Earth's destruction, and then he dies after a reasonable lifespan AFTER Earth's destruction in Gridlock. Make it make sense, RTD! Give up your BS timeline and patch that up.
Always wondered if the face of Bo was a part of Jack after the events of demons run and the larger portion regenerated a new head and didn't remember diverging into two separate entities and the body keeps going but the head is on a timer
Isnt Clara Oswald technically immortal given that her death is a fixed point because so many know of its occurrence also she has no vital signs as stated by the doctor so until she goes back to die voluntarily she cant be killed or die of old age also the way i always imagined Jacks immortality was that The Bad Wolf just made a fixed moment in time where jack died and because it was fixed the universe just COULDNT kill jack no matter how hard either of them tried. Idk if this is canon however (although all signs point to it)
would love the family of blood to return. One becomes a bounty hunter, one dies, another becomes a companion and the last just vanishes Ashildr should keep cropping up in Doctor Who and other spin offs. Each with a different name, personality and motive Jack's best death: The bomb in his stomach that destroyed the Torchwood hub Why is Rex higher than Jack and Trickster? And what about the Guardians?
The thing that gets me is, if he can regrow his entire body from a few cells after being completely blown up then how does he end up as a giant head. I guess my theory would be that it's part of the ageing process (He makes a comment in one of the earlier Torchwood episodes - before the two mini series along the line that he gets a grey hair every 1000 years) so eventually after something cataclysmic like being blown up again something goes wrong and he regenerates into a head. Whether that gets huge straight away or grows over time is another unkonwn.
I will always miss Wilf. He's supposed to be in the episode next year. We've seen him and a wheelchair with David Tennant several times. I wonder if they were able to finish filming the sequences Wilfred would have been in?
Why do I think the TARDIS has a room that is basically just a giant storage for the prisons of the immortal and all powerful beings to be trapped forever
If i remember correctly , when rassilon was resurrected to fight in the time war he waa given unlimited regenerations too, and although not confirmed i have a sneaky suspicion the master did too, since its already canon the master is above his regeneration limit
You missed the Struwelpeter from the "Persuasion" arc (or they may have been eternals...) - 7th Doctor Isnt there also Davros? (unless i missed his death)
the reason Swift might only "maybe" be immortal is that his lifeforce was fuel for the "summoning lion people" situation, so the repair kit may have burnt out, meaning he only has an extended lifespan. but the dr doesn't really know
you named Clara but you didn't mention since she didn't go back with the doctor at the end she is technically still locked in time and therefore immortal. and she will stay immortal until she goes back to the moment of her death.
While the Sisterhood of Karn are unaging, they can definitely die--in the events of "The Brain of Mobius" one of the sisters dies to Morbius, and Maren sacrifices herself to the Sacred Flame itself. I would suggest replacing them with Kronos, the chronovore shown in The Time Monster. Chronovores exist naturally within the space-time vortex within which the TARDIS and other time vehicles travel, and as such live as long as there's time itself to feed on.
There is a difference between immortal as in not aging and disease proof and immortal as unkillable. The Doctor specifically said Ashildr was not indestructible.
@@mikespangler98 Agreed. I've always made a distinction between "unaging" and "immortal" there. Even still, strictly speaking, the Sisterhood only managed "unaging," and even then, that relied on regular doses of their Elixir. That still leaves them as quite mortal, by any standard.
I can think about stuff to "kill" any immortal thing (that is flesh and blood) just cut em into litle pieces and trow every piece into a star or a black hole or a pocket dimension ,but onely one piece in one location, that is death even for an immortal thing
The issue is killing and dissecting them fast enough to do the job, and spreading the remains far enough apart that they don't rejoin. To kill Jack, for instance, you have seconds at best to dissect and dump the body before he revives, and that's if he doesn't simply grow from the removed pieces. Instead of one immortal, you may end up with one for each part you make.
Immortality and Invulnerability are not actually the same. One can never age but still die from eg a knife in the back, like the elves from Lord of The Rings
The fact that the eternals are very powerful doesn't stop the doctor from kicking their asses though. I think you should have put the doctor at number one.
Ellie you made a mistake, because The Sisterhood of Karn are NOT GALLIFRAYANS as they live on the Planet of Karn hence their name just so you know for future reference and Captain Jack Harkness shouldn't return for a third time as it was bad enough that he returned alongside the 13th/ 14th Doctor. Light from Ghost Light isn't an Eternal because once the 7th Doctor defeats him he looses his so called immortality
I am trying to remember that evil space god who was in suspended animation, only able to look around with his eyes. He was strong enough to kill with a look but if allowed his full power then...who knows what he can do. It was said his life cannot end while in that suspended animation
I think that jack and me where probably the longest living beings who are properly immortal as in a season one episode 2 think it was said that the face of boe was the last of his kind
7:22 I actually believe that was just his head. Or a copy of it, made as a result of an attempt to kill him using the headless monks, or said monks wanted an immortal such as him to join their ranks. The technique did result in his head continuing to live as per usual, but unlike the other heads.. This one would continue to age and mutate as a result of his tardis caused condition. Being mortal. Now for his body... At first it would have been a servant... That is until his head regrows from the stump. Resulting in two jacks existing at the same time, maybe one loses specific memories.. Like the head forgets their real name and instead recalls their nickname, i.e the face of boe.
For me... I'd be okay with being immortal...so long as I was able to always learn and do new things...and bring those I love along for a while. If I got bored, I'd just sleep...
I do have an Idea for what I would like to do as an Immortal though...and I don't think anyone would actually be upset with the plan I have either...I think even the Doctor would actually approve of it.🤔
I would like to say this, Rex became immortal because, during the events of miracle day, Rex and Ester did a blood swap of Jack's blood, and put it into Rex, then later on in that same episode if im remembering correctly, Rex's real blood which was in the blood bags, was destroyed by the solider who was working for the three families [ presumably ] so while Rex and Ester were playing it as if they were in that explosion and Jack's blood was destroyed, Rex and Ester were able to bring Jack's blood pumping through Rex's veins directly too the second location. at the end of the episode, Jack and Rex both wake up and get out of the buildings before they were exploded by the convicted pedo after Jack and Gwen decided to wire him up as a walking bomb and accidently showed him his soul, so when Rex wakes up its presumed that Jack's blood healed itself refilling Rex's body, so its not really unknown how Rex survived, its a plot point you guys missed out, while covering Rex, and i wanted to leave a comment in case people wanted more of an explanation without watching the whole series, Because ill admit, Miracle Day as a whole season wasnt exactly the best story, and is what eventually killed Torchwood as a show all together.
You mentioned the Daleks, the Cybermen and the Sontarans as races that commit mass murder regularly - but you missed the biggest killer of them all. The Doctor - they make the Daleks, Cybermen and Sontarans look like amateurs. You have a hot drink, they commit genocide.
I feel like Matheson has a far shorter life than Jack. Jack was brought back by time itself and Rex is through blood. It’s an inferior method, so I’m thinking he only lives into his thousands or millions as most :)
I always dissappointed when they revealled the Rex Matheson twist at the end of miracle day and torchwood just ended with this huge wtf cliffhanger. Is Rex still immortal or was his ressurection a one off? Did he live till the end of the universe? We just don't know and we likely never will.
Actually i think the "Time" (last Episode of Season 13) seems also to be immortal. I mean, his name already tells a lot. And also i guess he will be an interesting "guest" in the future
The horrific stuff Jack went through, particularly in Torchwood, and went on to be an absolute paragon of kindness shows how strong his character's will is. He could have easily grown to be as selfish or disinterested as Me/Ashildr, but his determination and love of The Doctor gives him such a strength of virtue and something to live up to. Absolutely fantastic character.
I like to think that part of Rose's character lives within him, almost like when Rose touched the Dalek and affected it's character
@@danielmetcalf That's fantastic! I'm definitely adding that to my head-canon, I love it.
Umm he did kill he's grandson!
@@adamdakin9325 yes, but it was one life or millions, who else would he choose?
@@danielmetcalf I love this head canon, this is great!
I've always thought Jack got his head lobbed off, which survived on its own, but he regrew another head because he's immortal. I like to think that lobbed off head became the Face of Boe, but could only last for so long, given it's only a head and not a full body. The actual Jack on the other hand, blissfully unaware that he had a twin head-brother, is still going around the universe somewhere.
I suppose you could call it my head canon
Simultaenously grinned and groaned at that one.
The Face of Boe = Jack fails the smell test of the earlier episodes that the Face was in or was reported on by other characters. He is spoken of as always being the face, and being both male and female... having said to have given birth, and of being of an ancient race millions of years old (which means older than the race of humans or timelords).
When Jack was mutilated by the bomb in Children of Earth, he didn't resurrect until all his body reattached.
@@josephteller9715 I always thought he went the LONGEST way around. As in he went through the death of this Universe and continued living through consecutive Universes till our Universe reappeared from the nothingness. An Ultimate Time Loop.
Jack still ages. Just very very slowly. He aged so slowly he "evolved". I'd venture a guess and say that any human, given enough time, would end up the same or similar.
Jack is the only person to die by the hands of a Dalek, a Cyberman, and the Master 🤣
And, as the ads on TV said, _many, many more!_
Like the time his brother buried him a couple of million(?) years ago, until Torchwood dug him up.
@NemoConsequentae And in Children of Earth they blew him up then tried to seal him in concrete.
Dude literally goes through hell, no wonder he makes some questionable choices in that series.
Jacks pretty much been killed by everything at this point 😂
I think the Master should get at least an honorable mention here. Despite them often dying in ways that prevent regeneration, they ALWAYS come back. Missy was hit by Harold Saxon's laser screwdriver, preventing regeneration, yet she still reappeared as O, Yana came back after the Master was trapped in what is tantamount to another dimension entirely, and Harold Saxon came back from literal death after he refused to regenerate after getting shot - and those are just a few examples.
Missy used a device on herself that reprograms her molecules, letting her get a whole set of regeneration. But otherwise, I'm pretty sure the rest of their deaths are him being pulled out of time by the time lords
@@haddy106 Yeah, it's a bit hand-wavey, which is why I suggested an honorable mention instead of a full slot.
Actually, and I know this will sound pedantic, but I don't know of it has been establish that Sacha Dhawan's version followed on from Missy. I know the chances are slim, but that iteration could have come from a) an incarnation we hadn't seen in the classic series, or even between Simms and Missy. I hope he didn't follow on, as Sacha version totally undoes all the character growth from her time with Capaldi.
@@gestaltdude its is possible that the Q version of the master is possibly a regeneration after the original 1st master since the actor died and we never saw him regenerating
@@omegagamer4124 My point exactly. We know The Master burned through all his original regenerations quickly, I think this was state in The Deadly Assassin. We also know he was resurrected to fight in the Time War, so that's a minimum of 25 versions of himself, of which we have seen six; Roger Delgado, Anthony Ainsley, Eric Roberts, John Simms, Michelle Gomez, and Sacha Dhawan. Geoffrey Beevers also played Melkur in Keeper of Traken, though that was simply the outward form of his TARDIS. Thus I find it simplistic to assume that the ones we have seen must have followed each other. Dhawan's version seems much more in keeping with the attitude displayed by Delgado's, for example, though I believe it sage to say Gomez followed Simms, as she had some of his memories.
We've lost Bernard Cribbins🙁. Our beloved Wilfred Mott. He has left this mortal coil aged 93yrs. I'm so sad. He was one of my favorites from the new series. RIP Mr Cribbins, you will be sorely missed♥️🙁
He did manage to complete filming for the 10/Donna 60th anniversary episode. We get one last adventure with Wilf to look forward to!
Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mott was hands down the best DW companion ever.
On the bright side he will be in the 3 Doctor Who episodes with Tennant & Noble they filmed just before he sadly passed away
Just knowing how we've had to wait for the 60th and with Bernard Cribbins moving into another realm...
Knowing we will see Wilf one last time makes my hearts break all over again 💔💔
He didn't get to film all the scenes they wanted him to film. That's why his character is off screen at the end of the last special.
Believe me, it gets even worse for Borusa in the Time War, as he's turned into something else by Rassilon. His biology and timeline got changed by Rassilon to turn him into something called the Probability Engine, a being that can see all possible timelines at once, to act as a strategy computer to use against the Daleks. In the end, the Doctor helped him die as he used a temporal anomaly to erase a Dalek superweapon from history.
Yesss, engines of war. Amazing book
@@thehybrid210 Indeed. My heart broke when I read the final chapters.
He was brought back from the stone only to be put back when they were finished with him
I'm surprised River Song didn't make this list as well, considering how much she is loved by you, combined with her being uploaded to the mega computer in the library, in essence making her immortal!
her brain/soul may still be alive, 'River Song' however is not
honestly The Master should be on this list for practical purposes, yes he is a timelord, but he has so many additional ways to cheat death, and ignore the limit that he might as well be immortal
The Guardians are technically immortal. The Beast in the Satan Pit is technically immortal by being pre-existent to this universe, even if his body has been destroyed or trapped in a Black Hole. The Fendahl and the Osirans also are potentially immortal. The Great Intelligence might be immortal, despite being defeated by the Doctor and Clara. Fenrick and the gods of Ragnarok are other immortals.
The Great Old Ones, I theorise the midnight entity is one too
The Osirans were not immortal they just had a really long lifespan they could live for thousands of years their time travel technology wasn't as good as the Time Lord's IT produced a lot of time spillage, which would be absorbed by the traveller. If someone went backwards in time or forwards in time by a thousand years, the traveller would also age a thousand years this how the Doctor beat The evil Osiran Sutekh he sent the other end of Sutekh's time portal so far into the future that he died of old age before he could get to the earth.
The Beast in The Satan Pit (correct me if I'm wrong, working of off memory) was said to be lying by the Doctor. Later the Doctor doubted himself on that. The words were untranslatable by the Tardis. The explanation given (remember: by the Beast) was they predated time as he did. I think it's fair to say it is possible the Beast was lying and the Doctor just never worked out how. It's also possible the Beast is telling the truth. Either way, put an asterisk next to it!
Again, if I recall correctly, it didn't seem as though the Doctor was fully satisfied with the explanation at the end of the episode, just more willing to entertain the possibility.
@@David-qi1ys The Doctor thinking it was impossible for The Beast being pre universe doesn't make sense especially when The Doctor has already faced off against pre universe beings like The Gods of Ragnarok and the Eternals before hell even The Guardians are pre universe
@@melficeskye292 Legitimate question. If I were to say the Doctor's beef was that the Beast was pre TIME, not pre universe, would that just be semantics?
Particularly (I don't know the Whoniverses take), there's a theory that there've been multiple Big Bangs and collapses. IE the universe rebooting itself. So pre universe (given that scenario, whatever plausibility you give for it) is far easier to achieve.
Great episode, and having Ellie say, "...Sucker..." Was a hilarious treat.
If Jack Harkness does become the face of boe then technically he does die, it took a loooooong time for it to happen.
This is addressed in the video!
I like to think we'll see the reason for this: that the Doctor -- in some incarnation, or another Time Lord, or (my favorite idea, maybe) Jenny -- is somehow able to take his Immortality from him as a gift to him, a reward for his long service to the Universe.
You could argue that the Face of Boe is technically an alternate identity. So you could argue that Jack Harkness never died, he just changed to the Face of Boe, and the Face of Boe died. Jack Harkness isn't around anymore (time shenanigans not withstanding), but technically, he never died as Jack Harkness, therefore Jack Harkness can never die.
Russell T Davies has confirmed that Captain Jack is the face of boe but from a different universe
Technically he didn't die as the face of boe he just became too old to move while he can't die he still ages and his body still deteriorates but doesn't die from it so he just became too old to move which is similar to death
I don’t think the Doctor has ever been more terrifying than what he did to the Family of Blood. The one that hits the hardest is daughter-of-mine. What did he do to the universe to make that possible!?!?
Yes and it was a great reminder, that you shouldn't piss of the Doctor, there is a reason why he has so many rules, remember?
I believe that both the villains from the episodes Waters of Mars and Silence in the library are immortal, if not then they are very close to immortal.
I'd equate them more to forces of nature, though.
@@GabePuratekuta The Waters of Mar sure but The Silence in the Library are more of a bacteria or virus.
The silence aren’t immortal their just really powerful and have time travel but they can die, the waters on mars are technically immortal but it’s also just a parasite and was supposedly destroyed in the explosion but then again ‘parasite’ (hope this helps)
@@stardayz88 your thinking of the shadow creatures aren’t you?
I don't think they mean The Silence. They mean Vashta Nerada, the "villains" from the episode Silence In the Library. Vashta Nerada aren't immortal.
*grammar edit
I've never understood why "drop them into a black hole" isn't a near-permanent way of disposing of an immortal creature. Even if they don't die, they're going to be trapped in place until the black hole evaporates (approximately 10^100 years), at which point they're still floating in a void.
The 4th Doctor went the opposite route in Image of the Fendahl where he said he was going to chuck the skull in a supernova.
one character who was immortal when we met him was Mawdwin in the story Mawdwin undead. He and some associates tried to steal the Time Lord secret of regeneration but screwed up sentencing themselves to eternal torment. However this was resolved when the 5th Doctor was going to use his own regenerative powers to end their suffering and allow them to die. In the end it was the energy of the Blinavitch limitation effect, released when past Brigadeer met future Brigadeer that did the trick so they did escape immortality and finally die.
That's Mawdryn.
Looking back, I see this as akin to DRM, or anti-cheat technology being tripped, not simple screwing up.
Unfortunately Bernard Cribbins isn't on the list😢
R.I.P
ha! that was unintentionally funny
@@jooberdoober60 ? he died in real life
@@lavashrine yes, that is why it was funny, not the death but the question sparked my humor
@@jooberdoober60 That's not really funny
@@DumbBoysGaming to you, not everyone thinks like you, something I have to remind myself daily
In "The War Games" it was made clear that the Time Lords were immortal, barring accidents. It wasn't until "The Deadly Assassin" that the rules were rewritten
I thought the Doctors regeneration cap was done away with when Matt Smith got all that power before he regenerated. It will be interesting to see will Chibnall try and do something with the impossible child or has it been left to Russel T Davis
The time Lords gave the doctor a new regeneration cycle for saving Gallifrey in day of the doctor.
@@fgameshunter1782 yea, but with the Doctor being the Timeless Child the power is the Doctor's to begin with, so he/she may not need that anymore
Good list, it was a reminder to me since running through all of the available classic episodes on britbox before catching up to current. However, it did bring to mind the Guardians and the whole Key to Time serial. Each guardian has a champion, one of which is the Doctor, and are not above using humans to their own advantage.
Just remembering the Family of Blood is yet another reminder that once pushed to extreme limits, he will do what is deemed necessary.
In the episode "Love and Monsters" Ursula Blake was absorbed by the Abzorbaloff. But at the end of that episode she was unabsorbed and was just a face in the stone, is she immortal? Also Clara is Immortal.
I dunno man, if you stamp on her face she’ll probably snuff it
Except, she died.
@@jayanderson9375 clara is immortal because she physically cannot die until she returns to the raven
@@paleoleft which she did and we saw it
@@jayanderson9375 yes but in her adventures with me she is literally immortal
I absolutely LOVE your way of presenting!
Ok but how are we not taking about The Master's immortality? He always pops back up when he does. John Simm's version did it twice!
I know right. and I think it's very interesting that both times, Missy( a future version of him) was involved.
Well he's not immortal...
@@joriswegner8421 so far he is
The Sisterhood of Karn was made perfectly well-known in the episode of their creation, The Brain of Morbius. They are a group which had discovered a miracle, an elixir unique to the planet of Karn which replenishes life as long as it was drank. It was the proverbial if not ACTUAL Fountain of Youth. Their purpose was clearly to guard it, make sure it isn't abused throughout the universe, as that would change the face of time and space forever. Case in point, the point and plot of Morbius was that he was a renegade Timelord who wished to build an everlasting immortal empire on the secret of Karn, which he discovered and started a war to end all wars over. His body was disintegrated as punishment, and once again Karn was forbidden any trespassers, to the point where the Sisterhood will crash and kill anybody within their mental sphere. How you didn't gather this from watching the episode, I don't know. How you didn't gather this from a wikia, I *really* don't know.
Typical of this channel. There are so many inaccuracies.
I do love how sinister-feeling everything is, when 12 visits them to hide from Davros at the start of Series 9. I would love to see more Karn in the upcoming RTD 2.0 era
Is amazing that the sisterhood are alise of the doctor.
The five doctors was not Borusa’s final fate, though his meddling with the tomb of Rassilon is still his eventual undoing. As during the Last Great Time War Borusa is revived, and then subjected to horrific human (gallifreyan?) experimentation at Rassilon’s hand, where he is forced into a state of constant regeneration where he dies and regenerates over and over and over again constantly. This unending torment has the benefit of forcing him to confront the entirety of the time vortex, which most timelords only directly experience during the moment of regeneration, and thus he is able to see the past and future and predict the course of events even during the thick of the time war (think of him like Bad Wolf, but without the powers, only the knowledge). Rassilon specifically engineered him for this purpose to create his “possibility engine” (just Borusa, hooked up to some suitably horrific cybernetics) to help him make strategic decisions about the war.
The War Doctor eventually freed Borusa from the possibility engine, and took him to the Tantalus Spiral, where the Daleks were constructing a planetary Demat gun to wipe Gallifreys from history. By stepping into the Eye of Isha (a space time anomaly that created the spiral) Borusa was able to undo the dalek engineering of the demat gun, and thereby to save the several billion humans who lived on worlds within the tantalus spiral. This process presumably kills him, since his motivation for helping the doctor was to commit suicide so that his torment could end.
So he did actually die. Eventually. Though whether it will stick or not, considering he’s been dead before, remains to be seen. Though of all the deaths that are likely to be permanent on doctor who, that does seem like one that would be hard to reverse.
The last time we saw Borusa in the main show was The Five Doctors. Everything else isn't necessarily canon!
Jack is just like Ban from Seven deadly sins (anime) they are not killable by any means but the invincibility is limited in a manner, for Ban that was only because of the weird way he obtained it, and for Jack in this case its because he only got a certain amount of energy from Rose, yes i just Crossed Anime and Scifi doctor who but it fit good so yes.
The one thing i always wondered is the son that became the scarecrow, well what do you think happened to him if the land was developed on and the workers found a body in a scarecrow costume not dead yet unresponsive, would this have been a great episode for torchwood
That was a thought that occurred to me at the time 🤣
Well, they did say, he was suspended in time, so the field would be there in the same state forever
It said he was suspended in time so I just assumed nobody could really see his body but he was still just ‘there’ no matter what happened to the land
Is Captain Jack / Boe really dead? Remember when he pumped life energy into Abaddon? He was dead for several days at least. It is possible we saw Boe "die" as he poured his energy into opening the doors. But like always, maybe a few days later ... he was back, jack.
Not as long as Barrowman is alive, in my opinion. Always a chance he'll show up in the role. The Face of Boe death is too far in the future to really count.
Maybe some show runner will find a way to...
...save face.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc if the rumours of indecent exposure on set are true then I doubt the BBC would risk him ever coming back in anything again. Even Torchwood.
the regeneration limit for The Doctor has not been removed it might be removed if The doctor ever uses the fobwatch found in season 13 episode 6. My theory on Jack is That the Bad Wolf since she could see all of time and space, she actually knew when to stop for Jack.
You forgot the weeping angels, the celestial toymaker (although it's pretty sure he's an eternal, the first we encountered) and the Monk (although he's a time lord like the doctor)
Are they really immortal though? They "quantum lock" IFsomeone is looking at them, which IIRC the Doctor described as a "perfect defense", but what about other times?
well we don’t know The Doctor has infinite regenerations - they had 12 (explained in TTC) and then the time lords granted them an unknown number more in Time of the Doctor, but it’s assumed they granted one more cycle
For better or worse the Doctor was retconned as a being from another universe whose capabilities time-lord regeneration was based on in the first place, they had at least one cycles worth of regenerations before the "first" doctor, it was just removed from their memories. A massive chekov's gun is a fob-watch supposedly containing said memories knocking around in the Tardis somewhere.
@@jtfbreedlove I can only hope RTD fixes that, it sorta just makes the Doctor feel like they're just an average mc, someone who's only like this because they're good incarnate, they're built different. The Doctor felt like anyone could be like them, you didn't need to be a being made of sunshine to do good, a main character who in our society is a god but in their own is on the level of your average vagabond
Not exactly: there was that massive explosion which destroyed the Daleks when the Timelord Council funnelled the artron energy into him in order to grant the new twelve regenerations cycle. It could be argued that the Doctor already had infinite regenerations (being the Timeless Child) and nobody knew (except The Division, who are even more secret than the Celestial Intervention Agency), so it basically overflowed and caused the destruction of the Daleks in that episode.
#11 Melody Pond. (River Song) While she did die on screen [The Library Doctor 10] she has one of the largest loopholes in Whovian Lore. That twenty-four year long night at the Singing Towers of Darillium, with Doctor 12 one mighty huge loophole. Technically dead she can pop up in any episode she wants to providing the writers agree.
This is a great point. 11 did something similar before going to Lake Silencio at the end of S7. If you're a time traveller and you already know exactly when and where you're going to die, you could just not go there, and theoretically avoid death forever.
Okay, I just figured on Sarah Jane Smith, that clown Odd Bob/Pied Piper was immortal too! All they could do is lock him back in the meteor he came from.
I love the Eternals’ response to discovering the Doctor is a Time Lord……”are there Lords of such a small domain?”
I can't argue with that list. Sure, there are others but I have to say... Davros, Rassilon and Omega lived a long time.
Just read a long stretch of comments about Clara's situation. She DIED! Her death is a fixed point in time,she was collected by the glass people. In her last scene,with Me,she is technically Undead! She is existing between her last heartbeat and infinity!
Undead,not resurrected,not immortal,UNDEAD!!
And just taking the long way back.
But such a pretty zombie.
Yep! That's right.
@@Thurgosh_OG Not quite. She hasn't actually died yet. She is frozen in that last moment of life before the raven kills her.
First Doctor: "The mind is indestructible. So is the Toymaker."
Toymaker: "Do you know what would happen if I died?"
Charley Pollard: "No. What?"
Toymaker: "Nothing. Absolutely nothing. A brief interlude of silence, and then I return."
3:29 Ashildr was not 100% immortal she could be killed if she sustained enough injuries like beheading so she could die but was just carefull enough not to die.
6:41 Finally a video about immortal tv/movie charecters who mentions that Jack does die at the end of time.
The part with Rex Matheson he probably got the same fate as Jack didnt they say that "Face of Boe" was the last of the Boe kind so maybe there was another one who just died earlier.
Rex received a lesser version of Jacks immortality. With Jack it was his entire being that was removed from death by the Bad Wolf, with Rex it was merely the transfused blood that he received from Jack. Remove all trace of Jacks blood from Rex, and you remove his immortality. I'm not sure that even disintegration is enough to destroy Jack, as his consciousness may be pinned to his immortality and regenerate his body rather than just his body regenerating from death.
@@13g0man Where is it mentioned that Rex has a lesser version of the immortallity? Because all we see is that he comes back to life and his body fully heals and he says "You World War II what did you do to me?" and then the series end.
And if you look it up on google the first hit is the Torchwood wikipedia where it says
(Rex's role as a second male hero in the series leads him to clash with returning male lead Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) and eventually becomes immortal in the same vein as Harkness.)
So according to that he is immortal in the same way as Jack...
You made some interesting points.
The Master often returns as another person several times.
Lol, Littlechild. What a great name!! Imagine going to school.
Teacher: What's your surname?
Ellie: Littlechild
Teacher: Yea I know you are, but what's your surname?
Ellie: No really, I'm a Littlechild, like my father, and his father before him.
Teacher: What? What are you talking about. How old is your father?
Wonder how many teacher's brains got fried by this. Imagine in college!! "Somebody hit Littlechild!!". "What? Why? Also, how did a little child end up on the college grounds?" You see how this can be an extremely confusing surname. I bet she has a gazillion stories of where people got confused. She should make a video, just telling all these stories. I would certainly watch it.
I have been checking frequently for your Bernard Cribbins tribute. I am sure it will be great.
The nice twist is ashilda while immortal.does have limited memory capacity.which is why she keeps a lot journals.
if I don't remember wrong, it was a long long time ago, the doctor used part of the tardis to send somebody "to the future" implying that he didn't sent him to a future date but doomed to travel forever to the future, never to reach destination.
I'm unsure if my memory is playing games with me or if this counts as being unnable to die, but it's a harsh fate. forever traveling through time, unnable to interact with anything in any way.
"Invaded by a race of fire-breathing lion people"
What a sentence
I also hope a new version of (Rex Matheson) could appear in the near future someday.
I can imagine that REX works with (Captain Jack Harkness) & I imagine they formed their own secret agency.
A Torchwood revival in RTD2 would be good
I agree!!
So basically Roddenberry ripped off the Eternals in creating the Q Continuum.
There's a reason The Doctor never truly dies:
As they say, demons run when a good man goes to war.
You forgot one, the most important character. The Tardis.
the tardis can die
I don't know if I can even express how much I HATE that RTD doubled down on Jack being The Face of Bo, because it makes so much more sense for Rex Matheson to be Bo.
Jack heard The Doctor and Martha talking about TFOB and had NO reaction to it (Episode: Utopia) then claimed it was him after a year of dying with The Master. Easy to claim it was a joke...
Meanwhile, Rex's immortality was dependent on the existence of Earth. It would explain why he was there to watch Earth's destruction, and then he dies after a reasonable lifespan AFTER Earth's destruction in Gridlock.
Make it make sense, RTD! Give up your BS timeline and patch that up.
Always wondered if the face of Bo was a part of Jack after the events of demons run and the larger portion regenerated a new head and didn't remember diverging into two separate entities and the body keeps going but the head is on a timer
As far as whoculture goes, Ellie, you are my no. 1 😊
11:20 the impossible astronaut story definitely made it seem like the regeneration can be disrupted.
Isnt Clara Oswald technically immortal given that her death is a fixed point because so many know of its occurrence also she has no vital signs as stated by the doctor so until she goes back to die voluntarily she cant be killed or die of old age
also the way i always imagined Jacks immortality was that The Bad Wolf just made a fixed moment in time where jack died and because it was fixed the universe just COULDNT kill jack no matter how hard either of them tried. Idk if this is canon however (although all signs point to it)
Kind of missed the Master and Davros, as they keep coming back
What about The Master/Missy. They have cheated death so many times, even when The Master has no more regenerations left.
He's not immortal, he just keeps finding ways to cheat death.
would love the family of blood to return. One becomes a bounty hunter, one dies, another becomes a companion and the last just vanishes
Ashildr should keep cropping up in Doctor Who and other spin offs. Each with a different name, personality and motive
Jack's best death: The bomb in his stomach that destroyed the Torchwood hub
Why is Rex higher than Jack and Trickster? And what about the Guardians?
The thing that gets me is, if he can regrow his entire body from a few cells after being completely blown up then how does he end up as a giant head. I guess my theory would be that it's part of the ageing process (He makes a comment in one of the earlier Torchwood episodes - before the two mini series along the line that he gets a grey hair every 1000 years) so eventually after something cataclysmic like being blown up again something goes wrong and he regenerates into a head. Whether that gets huge straight away or grows over time is another unkonwn.
Really cool video. Although every Doctor Who video from WhoCulture is enjoyable.
Agreed :D
R.I.P. Bernard Cribbins
I will always miss Wilf. He's supposed to be in the episode next year. We've seen him and a wheelchair with David Tennant several times. I wonder if they were able to finish filming the sequences Wilfred would have been in?
Helluva thumbnail, WC 🤣
Why do I think the TARDIS has a room that is basically just a giant storage for the prisons of the immortal and all powerful beings to be trapped forever
I met John once, best day of my life
I think the weeping angels are the scariest immortals in the show
Seeing Borusa turned into a face on a slab reminds me of Ursula's fate in "Love & Monsters"
I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if that means Ursula's now immortal too.
If i remember correctly , when rassilon was resurrected to fight in the time war he waa given unlimited regenerations too, and although not confirmed i have a sneaky suspicion the master did too, since its already canon the master is above his regeneration limit
11:05 technically I think they were suppose to have meddled with the Doctors DNA reducing them to only have a fixed number of regenerations
You missed the Struwelpeter from the "Persuasion" arc (or they may have been eternals...) - 7th Doctor
Isnt there also Davros? (unless i missed his death)
You forgot a torchwood one !! Grayson (formerly Claudianus) was an Immortal, and former pupil of Darius and the teacher of Callestina and Milos Vladic
great video
the reason Swift might only "maybe" be immortal is that his lifeforce was fuel for the "summoning lion people" situation, so the repair kit may have burnt out, meaning he only has an extended lifespan. but the dr doesn't really know
you named Clara but you didn't mention since she didn't go back with the doctor at the end she is technically still locked in time and therefore immortal. and she will stay immortal until she goes back to the moment of her death.
It is unknown how many regenerations the doctor was granted or if indeed he actually is the timeless child
They turned of the regen limit for now.
While the Sisterhood of Karn are unaging, they can definitely die--in the events of "The Brain of Mobius" one of the sisters dies to Morbius, and Maren sacrifices herself to the Sacred Flame itself. I would suggest replacing them with Kronos, the chronovore shown in The Time Monster. Chronovores exist naturally within the space-time vortex within which the TARDIS and other time vehicles travel, and as such live as long as there's time itself to feed on.
There is a difference between immortal as in not aging and disease proof and immortal as unkillable.
The Doctor specifically said Ashildr was not indestructible.
@@mikespangler98 Agreed. I've always made a distinction between "unaging" and "immortal" there. Even still, strictly speaking, the Sisterhood only managed "unaging," and even then, that relied on regular doses of their Elixir. That still leaves them as quite mortal, by any standard.
Yep. A berserk Morbius killed the lone Sister. They also ommitted Maren admitting things have to change hence her sacrifice.
Please do a List about Bernard Cribbins best lines or scenes. RIP Bernard Cribbins
Considering Jack said that his hometown called him the Face of Bo, it stands to reason that he did eventually die, it just took BILLIONS of years
I can think about stuff to "kill" any immortal thing (that is flesh and blood) just cut em into litle pieces and trow every piece into a star or a black hole or a pocket dimension ,but onely one piece in one location, that is death even for an immortal thing
The issue is killing and dissecting them fast enough to do the job, and spreading the remains far enough apart that they don't rejoin. To kill Jack, for instance, you have seconds at best to dissect and dump the body before he revives, and that's if he doesn't simply grow from the removed pieces. Instead of one immortal, you may end up with one for each part you make.
Leader of sisterhood of Karn died in brain of morbius.
Immortality and Invulnerability are not actually the same. One can never age but still die from eg a knife in the back, like the elves from Lord of The Rings
@@That_Random_British_Dude Yes. But Maren died caused by old age.
@@peterschutzek325 Okay, new theory. She was Immortal but was vulnerable to Old Age :D
I guess she forgot to drink her elixir.
The fact that the eternals are very powerful doesn't stop the doctor from kicking their asses though. I think you should have put the doctor at number one.
It's not a list of the most powerful, it's a list of the most immortal!
Surprised that Davros didn't get an honourable mention. He keeps turning up every now and then.
Ellie you made a mistake, because The Sisterhood of Karn are NOT GALLIFRAYANS as they live on the Planet of Karn hence their name just so you know for future reference and Captain Jack Harkness shouldn't return for a third time as it was bad enough that he returned alongside the 13th/ 14th Doctor. Light from Ghost Light isn't an Eternal because once the 7th Doctor defeats him he looses his so called immortality
I am trying to remember that evil space god who was in suspended animation, only able to look around with his eyes. He was strong enough to kill with a look but if allowed his full power then...who knows what he can do. It was said his life cannot end while in that suspended animation
I think that jack and me where probably the longest living beings who are properly immortal as in a season one episode 2 think it was said that the face of boe was the last of his kind
The Doctor's daughter and River Song in the simulation.
Do 10 unit members and then 10 Sarah Jane adventures episodes and torchwood.
What, no mention of the Celestial Toymaker? (My theory is that he was the first Eternal we encountered in the show!)
the toymaker is one of the guardians, we have seen the black and white ones too, so yes
@@julieeverett7442 right, he's the crystal guardian and a great old one like the other guardians
7:22 I actually believe that was just his head.
Or a copy of it, made as a result of an attempt to kill him using the headless monks, or said monks wanted an immortal such as him to join their ranks.
The technique did result in his head continuing to live as per usual, but unlike the other heads.. This one would continue to age and mutate as a result of his tardis caused condition. Being mortal.
Now for his body... At first it would have been a servant... That is until his head regrows from the stump.
Resulting in two jacks existing at the same time, maybe one loses specific memories.. Like the head forgets their real name and instead recalls their nickname, i.e the face of boe.
I personally think eventually the master is gonna become a companion
Good video! But I now of one more who comes to my mind . The Toymaker.
What about the weeping angels
For me... I'd be okay with being immortal...so long as I was able to always learn and do new things...and bring those I love along for a while.
If I got bored, I'd just sleep...
I do have an Idea for what I would like to do as an Immortal though...and I don't think anyone would actually be upset with the plan I have either...I think even the Doctor would actually approve of it.🤔
What about the weeping angels?
I would like to say this, Rex became immortal because, during the events of miracle day, Rex and Ester did a blood swap of Jack's blood, and put it into Rex, then later on in that same episode if im remembering correctly, Rex's real blood which was in the blood bags, was destroyed by the solider who was working for the three families [ presumably ] so while Rex and Ester were playing it as if they were in that explosion and Jack's blood was destroyed, Rex and Ester were able to bring Jack's blood pumping through Rex's veins directly too the second location. at the end of the episode, Jack and Rex both wake up and get out of the buildings before they were exploded by the convicted pedo after Jack and Gwen decided to wire him up as a walking bomb and accidently showed him his soul, so when Rex wakes up its presumed that Jack's blood healed itself refilling Rex's body, so its not really unknown how Rex survived, its a plot point you guys missed out, while covering Rex, and i wanted to leave a comment in case people wanted more of an explanation without watching the whole series, Because ill admit, Miracle Day as a whole season wasnt exactly the best story, and is what eventually killed Torchwood as a show all together.
You mentioned the Daleks, the Cybermen and the Sontarans as races that commit mass murder regularly - but you missed the biggest killer of them all. The Doctor - they make the Daleks, Cybermen and Sontarans look like amateurs. You have a hot drink, they commit genocide.
The difference being he gives them a choice. But they choose to ignore his warning.
Jack died as the Face Of Boe.
Right, but he's also "immortal". You shoot him, stab him, drown him, he gets back up. He's unkillable. That's why he's in the vid!
2:26 a movie of all time in Doctor Who!!?!
It's Morbin' time.
Is it me...? This presenter seems absolutely lovely.
She is lovely.
I feel like Matheson has a far shorter life than Jack. Jack was brought back by time itself and Rex is through blood. It’s an inferior method, so I’m thinking he only lives into his thousands or millions as most :)
Still a pretty good run!
What’s the name of this film/show?
I always dissappointed when they revealled the Rex Matheson twist at the end of miracle day and torchwood just ended with this huge wtf cliffhanger. Is Rex still immortal or was his ressurection a one off? Did he live till the end of the universe? We just don't know and we likely never will.
that plot armor has dents its going to break eventually
Actually i think the "Time" (last Episode of Season 13) seems also to be immortal. I mean, his name already tells a lot. And also i guess he will be an interesting "guest" in the future
So i really dont feel like we got enough time with Capaldi just tossing that out there