Doing this currently on a vw mk2 gti. Im literally going to harbor freight RIGHT NOW to buy an air recip saw. My angle grinder is making an absolute mess and I can still smell it through the respirator. That little air saw looks like a godsend. Be right back!
Everything used to last longer, not just the grinding wheels. People got greedy. The only way to get people to buy more.... Get them to waste more. Thanks for the pro tips!
buy the Walter wheels, expensive, but well worth it because they grind as well as cut and never break unless you get them wet or drop your saw and bend it.
Another thing that ear plugs are good for other than hearing protection is keeping flying sparks, hot metal shards and welding slag out of your ear. Being a pipefitter working with welders alot I've had my inner ear burned, lucky it hasn't been my ear drun but it's very possible. Great videos, great detail. You've taught us DIY guys alot. Thank you
I'd like to add that when welding, always wear clothing made of 100% cotton. It won't melt like synthetic cloth does when welding spatter contacts it. It will only smolder and that usually doesn't happen much. Synthetic fabrics are actually woven plastic threads that will melt and ignite. A 100% cotton sweatshirt works for me and they're pretty cheap. I'd also like to mention the importance of air tool lubrication. A few drops of air tool oil or even Marvel Mystery Oil in the air inlet before you set out to use it improves the life of the tool, especially a cheap one. Jeff, thanks so much for the instruction. You're good at it and I appreciate all that you do. NPD, thanks also.
I have 2000 corolla Obviously zero problem so far. The only problem is rust. I want to restore the bottom of my car as well. You gave me vision and courage as well to get this job done by myself. Thanks
You might also consider spot weld cutters if you have plans to remove any more panels. Really helpful in that they don't always leave a big hole in both pieces (if you're careful!), just a smaller pilot hole.
Yeah, I have the cutters. I've used both the cutters and drill bits and both work for this stuff. I plan to do a video on spot weld cutters and the pros and cons of drill; "type A" and "type B" cutters.
a little tip about air saws. pay some good money and get a good one, or buy a handful from harbor freight. the one i got from HR. lasted about 20 min. before it stopped working.of course i was not anywhere near done on replacing the floor pans on my 67 Ford f-100.
Hey Jeff, long time subscriber but my 67 Mustang Coupe is getting ready for its second time through. Just to add one more tool to your arsenal , and yes I know this is an older video, but a cheap Pneumatic 90 degree Die Grinder is awesome for some of these cuts and clean up activities in the small spaces. Make sure you have a swivel end as well. I will try to add comments as I start working on my project once more!! Love the channel and keep up the great work.
Thanks. I Loved my cut off wheel until Cam brought that dang saw in. LOTS less hot metal and fiberglass flying with the saw. We became fast friends after that.
One tool I can't recommend enough is an oscillating saw . I have a Fein one and combined with a good quality metal cutting blade is so effective and pleasant to use. Depth of cut and rate of cut very controllable and can reach cleanly and squarely into tight corners. Just give it a go, you will thank me!
Would you recommend cutting the floor out first before replacing the cab mount? Both of mine are rusted on my truck. I don't know which to cut out first. Or if it matters.
I know what you mean by measure twice and cut once both side's of my torino floor pan's below the rear seat r gone and I cut the replacements out of a Tbird and trying to fit them around the body braces is a pain but once I got them fitted they welded in fine.
You can reduce your freaking out by getting under the pan and looking for any wire bundle, you ought to try it next project you have it could save your life.
If it is not too much trouble, could you tell me what the little cube-shaped clamp is called, please? I need a way, similar to what you have done, to clamp a piece of sheet metal flush with another, like putting a hole back in a doughnut. The sections are very far from any edge, so I need a way to affix in place the newly cut sheet metal while I weld it in place. Many thanks in advance, and for your video.
There's a lot of good stuff prior to the 11 minute mark my friend. I guess if you know-it-all already though you don't need to know about tools and stuff right?
Neither can I! Perhaps the biggest joke in the car hobby is my welding ability. Take some classes, get a welder, watch welding videos, and practice on junk metal. You can improve. Trust me.
Doing this currently on a vw mk2 gti. Im literally going to harbor freight RIGHT NOW to buy an air recip saw. My angle grinder is making an absolute mess and I can still smell it through the respirator. That little air saw looks like a godsend. Be right back!
Everything used to last longer, not just the grinding wheels. People got greedy. The only way to get people to buy more.... Get them to waste more. Thanks for the pro tips!
buy the Walter wheels, expensive, but well worth it because they grind as well as cut and never break unless you get them wet or drop your saw and bend it.
Another thing that ear plugs are good for other than hearing protection is keeping flying sparks, hot metal shards and welding slag out of your ear. Being a pipefitter working with welders alot I've had my inner ear burned, lucky it hasn't been my ear drun but it's very possible. Great videos, great detail. You've taught us DIY guys alot. Thank you
Thanks for the kind words! Never even thought of that! Great tip. And...that would SUCK.
Thanks for sharing, Jeff. We're all learning all the time, to admit our mistakes proves that we're not only human, but also honest.
Well said!
I'd like to add that when welding, always wear clothing made of 100% cotton. It won't melt like synthetic cloth does when welding spatter contacts it. It will only smolder and that usually doesn't happen much. Synthetic fabrics are actually woven plastic threads that will melt and ignite. A 100% cotton sweatshirt works for me and they're pretty cheap.
I'd also like to mention the importance of air tool lubrication. A few drops of air tool oil or even Marvel Mystery Oil in the air inlet before you set out to use it improves the life of the tool, especially a cheap one.
Jeff, thanks so much for the instruction. You're good at it and I appreciate all that you do. NPD, thanks also.
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I have 2000 corolla
Obviously zero problem so far. The only problem is rust. I want to restore the bottom of my car as well. You gave me vision and courage as well to get this job done by myself. Thanks
I am glad we helped!
Very nice explanation of the where and why and how to trim out the rust I like this kind of in depth example for the process
You might also consider spot weld cutters if you have plans to remove any more panels. Really helpful in that they don't always leave a big hole in both pieces (if you're careful!), just a smaller pilot hole.
Yeah, I have the cutters. I've used both the cutters and drill bits and both work for this stuff. I plan to do a video on spot weld cutters and the pros and cons of drill; "type A" and "type B" cutters.
i Also have a '72 trk., & a '64 Falcon Sprint! you have great taste in vehicles.
a little tip about air saws. pay some good money and get a good one, or buy a handful from harbor freight. the one i got from HR. lasted about 20 min. before it stopped working.of course i was not anywhere near done on replacing the floor pans on my 67 Ford f-100.
Awesome tips.
This is great, I'm hoping to buy a 77 f100 soon and this is just want I needed.
Hey Jeff, long time subscriber but my 67 Mustang Coupe is getting ready for its second time through. Just to add one more tool to your arsenal , and yes I know this is an older video, but a cheap Pneumatic 90 degree Die Grinder is awesome for some of these cuts and clean up activities in the small spaces. Make sure you have a swivel end as well. I will try to add comments as I start working on my project once more!! Love the channel and keep up the great work.
Great idea! Thanks for watching all this time!
I need to try the saw. I happen to like the cutoff wheel, but could see where the saw would come in handy. Great vid.
Thanks. I Loved my cut off wheel until Cam brought that dang saw in. LOTS less hot metal and fiberglass flying with the saw. We became fast friends after that.
One tool I can't recommend enough is an oscillating saw . I have a Fein one and combined with a good quality metal cutting blade is so effective and pleasant to use. Depth of cut and rate of cut very controllable and can reach cleanly and squarely into tight corners. Just give it a go, you will thank me!
We'll get one soon! Thanks for the heads up.
Kevlar Sleeves are great too.
Would you recommend cutting the floor out first before replacing the cab mount? Both of mine are rusted on my truck. I don't know which to cut out first. Or if it matters.
I would support the cab at the cowl and back of the cab and work them together.
I know what you mean by measure twice and cut once both side's of my torino floor pan's below the rear seat r gone and I cut the replacements out of a Tbird and trying to fit them around the body braces is a pain but once I got them fitted they welded in fine.
Those were entirely cutting disc type of cuts. Can control the depth, I'd be freaking out about going through a bundle of wires or something
You can reduce your freaking out by getting under the pan and looking for any wire bundle, you ought to try it next project you have it could save your life.
Hey dude!Are you doing tv shopping or explaining how to rebuild a floor pan from scratch???!Lol
Yes.
If it is not too much trouble, could you tell me what the little cube-shaped clamp is called, please? I need a way, similar to what you have done, to clamp a piece of sheet metal flush with another, like putting a hole back in a doughnut. The sections are very far from any edge, so I need a way to affix in place the newly cut sheet metal while I weld it in place. Many thanks in advance, and for your video.
www.harborfreight.com/butt-welding-clamps-8-pc-60545.html
These are what we use.
I got a jeep with a metal roof...ramcharger donor has sheet metal i can use for floor pan and its already paint
Awesome!
Can you use a jigsaw not an airsaw? Replacing the whole rear panel of my van floor and need to cut out a new floor.
On a van, probably. It might get ticklish at the wells.
Use the full replacement pannel
They don't make one for the 67-72 F100.
Any tips on how to remove the rubbery hard coating that some cars have in the front?
I've used a propane torch and scrapper. No, it isn't ANY fun...
@@AutoRestoMod I'll try that. Thanks!
What air saw is that? And what PSI does it operate at
Matco and we run it at 60 psi.
Are you using a nicad DeWalt? Old-school
Ain't broke, don't fix it. I like old things, cars, tools. I've had that DeWalt for 20 years. It still works well.
I wish I could send my car to you guy's
As slow as we are, we'd be in a retirement home when my step sons delivered it.
what gauge metal is it?
I can't remember but the gauge is a whiff thinner than stock.
Put a piece of cardboard underneath and trace it from the top and cut once, done.
ep that's one way.
How much would it cost to get this done?
Depends on your area. I haven't priced floor pan replacement in a long time.
if your car is that gone, likely more than it's worth paying for. this is a hobbiest kind of obsession.
Skip to 11:00.
There's a lot of good stuff prior to the 11 minute mark my friend. I guess if you know-it-all already though you don't need to know about tools and stuff right?
I wish I could do this, if I had any support I'd have been able to keep my classic car from being scrapped. All it needed was an inner and outer sil.
Sorry about that.
OKI, I cant weld. How do I do this with that handicap?
Neither can I! Perhaps the biggest joke in the car hobby is my welding ability. Take some classes, get a welder, watch welding videos, and practice on junk metal. You can improve. Trust me.
Rivets could work as a temporary
adhesives I have heard can be as strong as welds or maybe fiberglass
@@M1k4e which adhesives?
@@axa.axa. panel adhesive by 3M I heard works but there is probably others.
Buy an actual welding shirt they aren’t that heavy and they are pretty cool so they work great in the summer
Yeah, I probably will. We are about to embark on a LOT more welding.
I would’ve just replaced the whole floor plan
Had that been an option, I might would have.
The 1990"s called and they want that cordless back.
Come on, don't dis Ole Yeller! That stinky thing has seen several years of hard labor. Dewalt should be proud of that one!
Get to the point ... FFS .... Blahblahblahblahblaaaaaaah
Please, be my guest, go watch a different channel. Dang did I type that out loud?
10 minutes promoting tools!!! Get to the point.
Thanks for watching! Please read the title: Rusty Floor Pan Repair Removal TOOLS and set up.
He lost me when he said "the ish"
My experience with body work is there is ALWAYS an ish.