How do you keep the foreground in focus? If the camera is moving even only very slightly over 90 seconds surely the foreground would just look messed up? Or do you take 2 shots, one for foreground and one for stars then stitch them in LR / PS? Thinking about getting one of these as I’ve always wanted to try some astro shots
Glad you’re getting on well with it, Andrew - I love mine. Absolutely perfect for what I do and easily does 2 minutes at 50mm - looking forward to trying the 135 on it too. Sorry about your laser issues - mine is still on the first charge and has kept going strong. So maybe you’ve got a wrong’un?
I had a similar problem with the laser, in my case though it was the battery connection in the laser itself. Try and unscrew the body of the laser and adjust the battery connection up a bit, worked for me. Thanks for the video Andrew.
Over the last few years I've been looking at reviews of the Move Shoot Move, especially form Alyn, and the iOprton versions. Even with using the Mark One Eyeball to align the motor you got some excellent shots on the night. I did wonder how you would get a shot of the sky and the ground but you mentioning taking two shots and blending in the edit which solved that problem for me. Could the same be done with a Time Lapse with a single shot of the ground and a Time Lapse of the sky or would that just look like a cut-and-paste job? With the Move Shoot Move I do have a couple of questions which I hope you can help with. The first question may take a few months to answer and that is the build quality and durability of the device. Hopefully you will test it to destruction this winter and be able to say how reliable it is compared to the more heavy and bulky iOptron. My second question is, are we allowed to use the laser in the UK. I got nervous about buying one because I could not find any information on the internet about its use compared to its strength. Its all pretty vague.
Yeah timelapse would look a bit fake like if the foreground was identically the same. So far the build quality is pretty good so far but yes still early days with it so not tested with harsh frost etc yet. And as far as i'm aware there isn't a problem with lasers in the UK but I would be very cautious around airports etc. :)
I went and bought a nomad with the polar scope and it should arrive this week. I bottled out of the laser. I then found a website with the legalities of lasers in the UK and it would appear that the MSM laser is five times more powerful than what is legally allowed to be sold in the UK. To make my life less stressful, in case plod ever came calling while I was out taking images, I decided not to get one. I’ve also watched a few reviews where it broke very quickly after purchace for such an expensive bit of kit. I am actually looking forward to getting my Nomad as it is getting some really good reviews compared to all the complaints of the original MSM. Looks like they listened to customer comments and made some solid improvements. I went and bought the V & Z mounts but after watching a few reviews, I may not need the V mounts. I use Fluid Level heads for all my camera work and it would seem that my Fluid Head performs the same duties as a Wedge, or V Mount. We’ll see how that goes. I just hope this winter is not as wet or cloudy as last winter.
Enjoyed your great review👍 I've used the previous model of msm for a few years, and found it flawless. The laser does require minor tweaks so that it is parallel with the msm device! Once set, it is accurate. No problem with laser battery....not even run flat in alI this time! If Polaris isn't viewable, I've used a compass clinometer for alignment. Obviously, need to know your latitude at that location. Great images btw👌
I have the msm laser pointer and use it with my star adventurerer and still on first charge mate. I got a pack of 8 batteries I think from amazon so think you have a bad battery. I also got a 90 degree scope which i think you'd benefit from if you are just eyeballing alignment. Great video as always, would just say if you'd went further down glen Etive there's a great loch foreground but you might get some light from Oban. If your ever on the west coast again I'd suggest up near north argyllshire or loch Maree mate, bortle 1.
Just discovered the classification of the MSM Pointer Laser and its Class 3b. I think that I shall stay away from something so powerful even if my defence was only to use for polar alignment against a night sky.
How do you keep the foreground in focus? If the camera is moving even only very slightly over 90 seconds surely the foreground would just look messed up? Or do you take 2 shots, one for foreground and one for stars then stitch them in LR / PS? Thinking about getting one of these as I’ve always wanted to try some astro shots
Loving that little device 👌. Cool to see you can actually come away pretty well even without the laser!
Probably will as my battery just keeps going flat for some reason 😢
@@scotlandsnightsky yeah thats weird man! Haven't needed to charge my laser yet since I bought it.
Glad you’re getting on well with it, Andrew - I love mine. Absolutely perfect for what I do and easily does 2 minutes at 50mm - looking forward to trying the 135 on it too.
Sorry about your laser issues - mine is still on the first charge and has kept going strong. So maybe you’ve got a wrong’un?
Ah great to hear that it must just be my poor battery! Glad you’re having success with it!
Thanks for the review Andrew. I have just received mine. Decided to order 2 laser pointers that I will take out with me. Waiting for clear skies
great stuff! best of luck with it!
I had a similar problem with the laser, in my case though it was the battery connection in the laser itself. Try and unscrew the body of the laser and adjust the battery connection up a bit, worked for me. Thanks for the video Andrew.
@@paradanglers will give this a go thank you!
Over the last few years I've been looking at reviews of the Move Shoot Move, especially form Alyn, and the iOprton versions. Even with using the Mark One Eyeball to align the motor you got some excellent shots on the night. I did wonder how you would get a shot of the sky and the ground but you mentioning taking two shots and blending in the edit which solved that problem for me.
Could the same be done with a Time Lapse with a single shot of the ground and a Time Lapse of the sky or would that just look like a cut-and-paste job?
With the Move Shoot Move I do have a couple of questions which I hope you can help with. The first question may take a few months to answer and that is the build quality and durability of the device. Hopefully you will test it to destruction this winter and be able to say how reliable it is compared to the more heavy and bulky iOptron.
My second question is, are we allowed to use the laser in the UK. I got nervous about buying one because I could not find any information on the internet about its use compared to its strength. Its all pretty vague.
Yeah timelapse would look a bit fake like if the foreground was identically the same. So far the build quality is pretty good so far but yes still early days with it so not tested with harsh frost etc yet. And as far as i'm aware there isn't a problem with lasers in the UK but I would be very cautious around airports etc. :)
I went and bought a nomad with the polar scope and it should arrive this week.
I bottled out of the laser. I then found a website with the legalities of lasers in the UK and it would appear that the MSM laser is five times more powerful than what is legally allowed to be sold in the UK.
To make my life less stressful, in case plod ever came calling while I was out taking images, I decided not to get one. I’ve also watched a few reviews where it broke very quickly after purchace for such an expensive bit of kit.
I am actually looking forward to getting my Nomad as it is getting some really good reviews compared to all the complaints of the original MSM. Looks like they listened to customer comments and made some solid improvements.
I went and bought the V & Z mounts but after watching a few reviews, I may not need the V mounts. I use Fluid Level heads for all my camera work and it would seem that my Fluid Head performs the same duties as a Wedge, or V Mount. We’ll see how that goes.
I just hope this winter is not as wet or cloudy as last winter.
Enjoyed your great review👍 I've used the previous model of msm for a few years, and found it flawless. The laser does require minor tweaks so that it is parallel with the msm device! Once set, it is accurate. No problem with laser battery....not even run flat in alI this time! If Polaris isn't viewable, I've used a compass clinometer for alignment. Obviously, need to know your latitude at that location. Great images btw👌
Cheers! No idea why my battery keeps going dead then 😢
Awesome,do you need to have one of these for photographing the milky way
@@seanallan3042 it just helps getting a bit more detail. Can still photograph the Milky Way fine with 20/30 seconds
@@scotlandsnightsky cool thank you I try for northen lights so it’s kinda along the same lines,never got the Milky Way,thank you
I have the msm laser pointer and use it with my star adventurerer and still on first charge mate. I got a pack of 8 batteries I think from amazon so think you have a bad battery. I also got a 90 degree scope which i think you'd benefit from if you are just eyeballing alignment. Great video as always, would just say if you'd went further down glen Etive there's a great loch foreground but you might get some light from Oban. If your ever on the west coast again I'd suggest up near north argyllshire or loch Maree mate, bortle 1.
Just discovered the classification of the MSM Pointer Laser and its Class 3b. I think that I shall stay away from something so powerful even if my defence was only to use for polar alignment against a night sky.
Great review mate, did you get a chance to test it out with a 3kg payload to see how it is at that weight?
Cheers man, and nah not tried anything too heavy yet unfortunately, will need to test it
@@scotlandsnightsky would be good to hear as it’s a smart bit of kit