i was quoted 900 to replace a six zone hydro indexing system to solenoid. is this a fair price? The heads and pipes are already there and control unit.
Buenas tardes,quisiera hacerle una pregunta. Puedo conectar un timer digital como el del video a un sistema de irrigación antigua o que cuenta con una válvula index con 6 zonas ? Muchas gracias
Si puedes, yo lo tengo asi desde hace varios años y ahora voy a reemplazar el indexing valve or individuales. Lo que pasa es que solo ganas la ventaja de controlarlo remotamente porque no puedes controlar cada zona por separado, para eso si necesitas las valvulas individuales.
Has anyone had anyone quote replacement cost going from intermetic indexing valve system to an electronic controller like rachio3? What would be ball park cost? Thanks Kevin
It all depends on how many zones you have. Each zone requires a new valve and each good valve range from $30-$50 each. Sometimes you can find them on sale. One you have all valves then it’s just a matter of plumbing and for wiring it will not work efficiently with an analog timer so you will need digital sprinkler controller timer which can control each zone independently. Total cost shouldn’t exceed 300 with labor and parts. Controller cost is separate.
@@HowToDoitright ok so I couldn't find anything around my house that showed something like in the video. I could only find some small round boxes in the ground.
Ok so open and remove the cover on those boxes and take a peak. Sounds more like you have individual valves which is a good news. Also another way to tell is opening your sprinkler control box and see if you have individual small color wires going to zone numbers. That’s another indication that it’s independent valves and not index valves because index valve only have one valve.
to me, that is not an upgrade. The indexing valve in the long run is much cheaper to maintain. I've had two indexing valves (one for the front yard on e for the back yard) for over 25 years and replaced a part once in the front yard 15 years ago. I would have had to have 8 individual solenoid valves if I did not use indexing valves. I use two, one each for front yard, one for the back yard. No electrical connection required for aindexing valves, so the solonoid valve can be place close to water source and the indexing valve can be place very close to your zones, and it lets you use a large diameter supply pipe (like 1 inch to the indexing valve) for adequate volume then 3/4 to the sprinklers then 1/2 to preserve pressure. You have created a sphagetti bowl. I can manually step through my zones if I wish, otherwise each zone gets watered 45 miutes each. A simple timer is all that is required, since all its doing is turning on the water (open valve) or turning it off. the indexing valve determines which zone is next.
David Berry I see your point but the new smart technology cannot be used with the old index valve style. There is no way you can control each zones with smart controller. It all depends what the end user wants. If anyone old don’t care about technology and don’t care about controlling each zone they wouldn’t care however new generations who wants more control of their zone and are in to smart devices would prefer each controllable zone with the electronic valve. It’s personal preference and I preferred to have individual valves and am very happy and satisfied with it.
@@HowToDoitright I use smart technology when its benefits the situation. Some of that is just hype...Most of the time (most all of the time) who cares which zone gets watered first as long as all zones get watered.
David Berry depends on what is some of that hype you are referring to. To some it may be hype and some it may be beneficial. In this case it was much beneficial for me because in my lawn some zones needs to get watered more than the other and by having the index valve I was wasting more water. By having individual control on zone I have saved a lot on water bill. So for me yes this is an upgrade and not a hype.
David Berry not to engage in semantics but he is right. This is an upgrade in every sense of the word. By definition upgrades cost more in terms of the initial cost and maintenance costs, in fact probably more than what is saved in water usage, but that is what upgrades are. You spend more to get additional benefits. This system he has now is objectively superior in every way to an indexing valve. For me, it's more about avoiding the aggravation of trying to turn on a particular zone and not having to cycle through all the other zones tediously to get to the one you care about. This happens often when performing regular maintenance such as replacing sprinkler heads or adjusting spray patterns etc etc. the reduced aggravation alone is worth the additional cost to me. That is why I came looking for videos such as this. I just wish that there was a direct drop in replacement for the indexing valve so that the amount of labor wasn't so great.
Excellent explanation! Thank you for sharing!!!
Thanks, I was searching for a video like this all day
i was quoted 900 to replace a six zone hydro indexing system to solenoid. is this a fair price? The heads and pipes are already there and control unit.
No that’s too much. Max should be 200-300 MAX
Buenas tardes,quisiera hacerle una pregunta. Puedo conectar un timer digital como el del video a un sistema de irrigación antigua o que cuenta con una válvula index con 6 zonas ? Muchas gracias
No digital meter only works with the Independent valves system.
Si puedes, yo lo tengo asi desde hace varios años y ahora voy a reemplazar el indexing valve or individuales. Lo que pasa es que solo ganas la ventaja de controlarlo remotamente porque no puedes controlar cada zona por separado, para eso si necesitas las valvulas individuales.
Can you do this with a well pump? How would you wire the well pump in?
Yes you can. You need a relay
Any insight on for the well pump? What does the relay look like
Why did you delete the backflow prevention valve?
Thomas Frye because I got a separate sprinkler system connected to the well system. It was disconnected form the main water line so not needed.
Hello did you install a pump relay
No you don’t need any pump relay unless you are installing a pump. My water comes directly from city with enough pressure
What was your cost to upgrade?
Between 200-300
Has anyone had anyone quote replacement cost going from intermetic indexing valve system to an electronic controller like rachio3? What would be ball park cost? Thanks Kevin
It all depends on how many zones you have. Each zone requires a new valve and each good valve range from $30-$50 each. Sometimes you can find them on sale. One you have all valves then it’s just a matter of plumbing and for wiring it will not work efficiently with an analog timer so you will need digital sprinkler controller timer which can control each zone independently. Total cost shouldn’t exceed 300 with labor and parts. Controller cost is separate.
How To Do it I would not attempt this outsource completely have 4 zones
"I have 1, 2, 3 and 3 on the other side, so a total of 4" yeah that just made me so confused.
I need someone to tell me how to tell if I have an index valve
If it’s a big round thing that looks like a big flower with multiple pipes going in, then it’s index valve
@@HowToDoitright ok so I couldn't find anything around my house that showed something like in the video. I could only find some small round boxes in the ground.
Ok so open and remove the cover on those boxes and take a peak. Sounds more like you have individual valves which is a good news. Also another way to tell is opening your sprinkler control box and see if you have individual small color wires going to zone numbers. That’s another indication that it’s independent valves and not index valves because index valve only have one valve.
Shit repair man , you got the mainline pipe in a bind …. And if you charging $100-$300 for this … I can tell why you did .
to me, that is not an upgrade. The indexing valve in the long run is much cheaper to maintain. I've had two indexing valves (one for the front yard on e for the back yard) for over 25 years and replaced a part once in the front yard 15 years ago. I would have had to have 8 individual solenoid valves if I did not use indexing valves. I use two, one each for front yard, one for the back yard. No electrical connection required for aindexing valves, so the solonoid valve can be place close to water source and the indexing valve can be place very close to your zones, and it lets you use a large diameter supply pipe (like 1 inch to the indexing valve) for adequate volume then 3/4 to the sprinklers then 1/2 to preserve pressure. You have created a sphagetti bowl. I can manually step through my zones if I wish, otherwise each zone gets watered 45 miutes each. A simple timer is all that is required, since all its doing is turning on the water (open valve) or turning it off. the indexing valve determines which zone is next.
David Berry I see your point but the new smart technology cannot be used with the old index valve style. There is no way you can control each zones with smart controller. It all depends what the end user wants. If anyone old don’t care about technology and don’t care about controlling each zone they wouldn’t care however new generations who wants more control of their zone and are in to smart devices would prefer each controllable zone with the electronic valve. It’s personal preference and I preferred to have individual valves and am very happy and satisfied with it.
@@HowToDoitright I use smart technology when its benefits the situation. Some of that is just hype...Most of the time (most all of the time) who cares which zone gets watered first as long as all zones get watered.
David Berry depends on what is some of that hype you are referring to. To some it may be hype and some it may be beneficial. In this case it was much beneficial for me because in my lawn some zones needs to get watered more than the other and by having the index valve I was wasting more water. By having individual control on zone I have saved a lot on water bill. So for me yes this is an upgrade and not a hype.
David Berry not to engage in semantics but he is right. This is an upgrade in every sense of the word. By definition upgrades cost more in terms of the initial cost and maintenance costs, in fact probably more than what is saved in water usage, but that is what upgrades are. You spend more to get additional benefits. This system he has now is objectively superior in every way to an indexing valve. For me, it's more about avoiding the aggravation of trying to turn on a particular zone and not having to cycle through all the other zones tediously to get to the one you care about. This happens often when performing regular maintenance such as replacing sprinkler heads or adjusting spray patterns etc etc. the reduced aggravation alone is worth the additional cost to me. That is why I came looking for videos such as this. I just wish that there was a direct drop in replacement for the indexing valve so that the amount of labor wasn't so great.
Dennis Kapatos thanks David. I am glad this there are people who think outside the box :)