Cholesterol & Heart Health: Insights from LDL Research on Keto with Dave Feldman & Nick Norwitz, PhD

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @pattia983
    @pattia983 4 месяца назад +57

    LDL 350 plus. Zero CAC score. Recent nuclear stress test and echo all normal, no blockages. Keto 6 years, Carnivore 1 year

  • @beardumaw24
    @beardumaw24 3 месяца назад +20

    I was low fat organic plant based for 20+ years made me sick weak and unhealthy even being athletic ! 4 years ago i switched to an animal based foods ketogenic diet and am now healthy have my strength and muscle back, never get sick now, triglycerides down to 53, HDL 70 total cholesterol 280, inflammation markers down and feeling fantastic !

    • @Cat-ht7ki
      @Cat-ht7ki Месяц назад

      Yes....me too! Similar story.

  • @teslamartin1789
    @teslamartin1789 4 месяца назад +22

    I love what this engineer and his Team is doing. Thank-You.
    The majority of the medical, pharmaceutical, and research community has had immense funding and opportunity to test, develop, and recommend to improve our health for many decades. The procedures, medications, and recommendations they have made from this, largely focus around a business strategy and bottom line. Not our health outcome. They’ve either stopped questioning and thinking, or they’ve opted to blindly focus on money.
    Again, thank you for this video, and for taking a step in the right direction.

  • @ultramiddle4991
    @ultramiddle4991 4 месяца назад +27

    So satisfying to witness a call to integrity and the abandonment of pettiness.

    • @corteltube
      @corteltube 4 месяца назад +3

      Really enjoy listening to Nick and his perspectives…this was a great discission. I am on. Ketogenic diet. It seems to have cured my IBS which was getting worse by the week until I started it. The results were immediate. I don’t begin to know how or why as I am just a layperson trying to learn. I have to go see my doctor this next month and I am kind of afraid she will scoff at my decision to go Keto this past year, but my weight is good, and I feel great… so we will see. Not real sure I will even tell her…maybe just say I am low carb…that’s safer, because it isn’t broke, and I don’t want her to fix it. 😬🙃.

    • @ultramiddle4991
      @ultramiddle4991 4 месяца назад +1

      @@corteltube In the same boat with immediate relief and very high ldl;I do not tolerate the side effects of a statin My doctor suggested I would be better off with another healthcare provider and acts as if fiber being a menace is impossible. Putting my quality of life first gets pretty serious and relationships end.

    • @lindabirmingham603
      @lindabirmingham603 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@corteltubeSad that you can't share your way of eating without being bullied by a likely ignorant, arrogant bully.
      My doctor actually looked into what I said about LMHR and documented in my chart that my higher total cholesterol and LDL wasn't a concern based on my LDLparticle size, high HDL, low Triglycerides, and O CAC score.

    • @kenadams5504
      @kenadams5504 2 месяца назад

      ​​One older Doctor offered me a statin when he saw my ldl ,on keto .I said I would think about it ,and watched many videos like this one .I returned to my Doc with my lmhr phenotype info ,and another younger Doctor was actually aware of keto and the lmhr phenotype .

  • @stevelanghorn1407
    @stevelanghorn1407 4 месяца назад +36

    I really admire the way Dave is trying (successfully) to maintain a scientific, non-biased approach to furthering our knowledge of this very divisive subject…despite the many studies, cardiologists & lipidologists (around the globe) who claim the causal link between high LDL and CVD is already “job done”!

    • @ultramiddle4991
      @ultramiddle4991 4 месяца назад +1

      @@stevelanghorn1407 He is a Rock 🌟 at what he does.

    • @BEASTIES50
      @BEASTIES50 Месяц назад +2

      Me too. I have listened to him speak many times and he is extremely (painfully even) measured in exactly what he says and what he backs away from saying. Absolute legend.

  • @philais
    @philais 4 месяца назад +48

    27 Mo's on carnivore. I was fat, prediabetic, high blood pressure ect. (metabolic disease). Now I am not. I will never go back. Thanks guys ( and I am 67 y.o.)

  • @debjordan4399
    @debjordan4399 4 месяца назад +10

    So thrilled with what Dave and the team has done. My LDL is 353 while I had a CAC scan of "0" this year. HDL is 67 and trigs 140. Age 73 yrs. Cholesterol has been high since my first cholesterol test in 2005. LDL particles have always been predominately large. I've been on and off a Ketogenic , low carb diet or carnivore since about 2005. Carnivore the last 4 years. Can't say I am LMHR though. Can not be considered lean at all. My doctor was very surprised.

    • @firstchoicefarm7767
      @firstchoicefarm7767 4 месяца назад +3

      Please work with your doctor. Those triglycerides and HDL don't put you in LMHR category. Glad your CAC is awesome. Also, Dave found that fasting 10-12 and not 8 hours is needed before testing triglyceride levels.

    • @Johannesdesloper
      @Johannesdesloper Месяц назад

      My HDL is higher (2,1 mmol) and triglycerides are lower (0,6 mmol), but i brisk walk alot. If u can do so: i think you would improve that numbers 2. My LDL is about the same: 334 mg/dl. Im 42 yrs old, doing better then ever. Still worrying about the LDL, but messages like these give me hope!

  • @lo5tcau5e35
    @lo5tcau5e35 4 месяца назад +14

    As a hyper responder myself i have been awaiting this data aver since I saw Dave on Low Carb Downunder or US or on Diet Doctor (I can't recall) and hoping for an explanation as to what it means for future treatment and health management. And possibly teaching my gp a thing or 2.
    Thank you for bringing Dave back to me Nick to me a Brett for ushering them in. Maybe RFK Jr will be on in the future to explain just how he's going to make America (the world) healthy again.
    Cheers

  • @paulhailey2537
    @paulhailey2537 4 месяца назад +29

    I was a 455 pound Vegetarian and now I'm a 210 lb. 6'2" CARNIVORE

    • @ninawildr4207
      @ninawildr4207 4 месяца назад +3

      Amazing!!!

    • @chewiewins
      @chewiewins 4 месяца назад +2

      Problem is vegetarian or vegan not equal healthy if eating chips and ultraprocessed 'food'
      One good thing Carnivore regardless all else is they don't have UPF anymore

    • @nicknorwitzPhD
      @nicknorwitzPhD 4 месяца назад +2

      WOWZERS

    • @bonnieschmidt5882
      @bonnieschmidt5882 20 дней назад

      Congratulations on your weight loss. To be fair, though, were you eating a “healthy” vegetarian diet? Or were you eating lots of ultra-processed junk foods and sugary desserts. I’m ketovore. Not afraid of eating meat and fat, but also eats lots of fruits and vegetables. I too have lost lots of weight and improved many metabolic markers. I’m easily addicted to carbs, so a ketovore diet works best for me, but I think both diets (carnivore and vegetarian) can both be”healthy”.

    • @paulhailey2537
      @paulhailey2537 20 дней назад

      @bonnieschmidt588WHOLE GRAINS AND FRUIT WAS A HEALTHY WEIGHT LOSS DIET AS DESCRIBED IN EVERY MEDICAL JOURNAL

  • @CaptainSteve777
    @CaptainSteve777 4 месяца назад +45

    Dr Matt Budoff does my CAC. My CAC declined 21% in 4 years on a ketogenic diet (174 down to 136).

    • @lindabirmingham603
      @lindabirmingham603 4 месяца назад +6

      Wow! I hope you share that everywhere and often! People need to hear that. Maybe on Dr Ford Brewer's channel as he is really into ways to decrease plaque burden. Congrats to you!

    • @dwaaziwaazi
      @dwaaziwaazi 4 месяца назад +2

      Has your CTA also declined?

    • @chewiewins
      @chewiewins 4 месяца назад

      Considering calcium score variable depending on type of CT scanner, wouldn't read too much into that. Useful thing is that it has not significantly increased.

    • @dwaaziwaazi
      @dwaaziwaazi 4 месяца назад +2

      @@chewiewins used the same machine for my cac and CTA and the variance was >10%. There may be too subjectivity on the average but a solution to a significant decrease has to exist.

    • @SET12DSP
      @SET12DSP 4 месяца назад +2

      In 20 months on the Linus Pauling Heart Protocol, my CAC went from 660 to 458. It's been two more years, and at the same rate of regression, I expect it to be in the low 300s.

  • @homomorphic
    @homomorphic 4 месяца назад +20

    I am genuinely curious as to why medical academia has such a predisposition to not understanding what causal means. It seems people who should know better, will identify elements that are clearly contributory as causal. Are they simply not aware of the linguistic distinction between the two, or do they not recognize the semantic difference? As a software engineer who started digging into the medical field, I am bewildered by the apparent absence of understanding of how to infer, and then confirm the mechanistic processes involved using the scientific method. It's like most of medicine is from a parallel science free universe.

    • @my-yt-inputs2580
      @my-yt-inputs2580 4 месяца назад

      Because they're being fed data from the testing that Pharma does which of course is a fabrication or twisting of the data to make it seem Statins actually do some good.

    • @RC-qf3mp
      @RC-qf3mp 4 месяца назад

      Causation is a thoroughly complex topic. Ask Supreme Court justices, Hume, Kant, Aristotle, Newton, Einstein and any tort lawyer. The human body is also complex. And the impact diet and lifestyle and environmental factors is complex. So to understand human health and the causes of it goes into complexity combined with complexity combined with complexity.

    • @homomorphic
      @homomorphic 4 месяца назад +4

      @@RC-qf3mp software engineers build models that have been shown to be 20% more accurate in diagnosing root cause than doctors.
      Managing complexity is what software engineers do. In order to be able to determine the root cause of maladaptive behavior in a complex system, one needs a foundation in information theory. Something that current medical training does not include.
      Human physiology is an information processing machine (as is everything in the universe) and as such, attempting to practice diagnostic medicine without a background in information theory is essentially malpractice.

    • @RC-qf3mp
      @RC-qf3mp 4 месяца назад

      @@homomorphic John Searle refuted the idea that nature is an information processing machine or that that brain is an information processing machine - about 40 years ago. See his paper on the Chinese Room Argument and his subsequent writings on the issue. In short, ‘information’ is in the eye of the beholder. Syntax is not sufficient for semantics. ‘Information’ is not intrinsic to nature but observer relative. Lots of people deal with complexity and there are different kinds of complexity. Causation, however, is a conceptually complex. You are presupposing a certain concept of causation rather than justifying it at the exclusion of all others. In short, you are oversimplifying the complexity. No offense, but nothing special about software ‘engineering’. Software is applied logic, b/c a computer is a logical machine. As Hubert Dreyfus wrote in his seminal “What Computers Can’t Do” (co-written with his brother Stuart Dreyfus, an Engineering Professor at Berkeley), Plato was the first computer programmer.

  • @Roberto-cg2gr
    @Roberto-cg2gr 4 месяца назад +7

    Hope Citizens Scientist Foundation will have a research on GKI of less than 2 in reversing or curing metabolic diseases such as Atherosclerosis, CKD, Stroke, Foot Ulcers, Retinopathy etc

  • @abbiec6057
    @abbiec6057 4 месяца назад +2

    This is wonderful!! Many thanks!!🙏

  • @250txc
    @250txc 4 месяца назад +16

    24:00 -- Myself, like Dave says here, all studies are with *unhealthy* people overall...Why study these *unhealthy* people to draw conclusions for us healthy ones?

    • @RC-qf3mp
      @RC-qf3mp 4 месяца назад +8

      B/c we don’t have a health care system, we have a sick-care system, and the more people who appear sick, the better … for physicians, hospitals, big pharma, etc. it’s a racket.

    • @tubetime39
      @tubetime39 Месяц назад +1

      250txc; Back about 27nyrs ago a report quoted in the news said vitamin supplementing didn't help people & causes higher risk of CVD. I looked at the study and sure enough, to the best of my recall, all subjects were like 50+ and had some previous health issues with CV system.

  • @chewiewins
    @chewiewins 4 месяца назад +3

    I am happy Dave and Nick showing possibility isolated raised LDL in absence metabolic syndrome is safe and hope they prove it long term.
    Key is regardless what one thinks, Keto and Carnivore benefits is dropping UPF and refined carbs.

  • @RC-qf3mp
    @RC-qf3mp 4 месяца назад +5

    Whenever I visit my cardiologist, I bring a pack of Oreos!

  • @ronpieket8164
    @ronpieket8164 2 месяца назад +1

    Please do a video about keto induced elevation of LDL in people who are *not* LMHR.

    • @metabolicmind
      @metabolicmind  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for your comment. In general, LDL does not go up for people who are not LMHR, and if it does, it tends to be small increases that are offset by metabolic improvements. Of course, this is an average and does not encompass everyone. We have done a number of videos about cardiac risk, which includes LDL cholesterol. We hope they have helpful information for you.
      ruclips.net/video/pKmNhQbtDLI/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/u0h8lfxRqMs/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/r_9S9BYBWo4/видео.html

  • @250txc
    @250txc 4 месяца назад +6

    Bret does his *usual & expected* great job...

  • @forthrightnight
    @forthrightnight 3 месяца назад +1

    Medical insurance companies should be all over this stuff. They don't give a shit if big pharma implodes, they just want the most cost effective treatment, whatever that might be. Gotta keep the shareholders happy.

  • @sarahb.6475
    @sarahb.6475 Месяц назад

    I am a LMHR. Got my test numbers back today.
    Total: 366
    Trigs: 40
    HDL: 114
    LDL: 244
    Dr wanted to put me on a statin + I said No. Now doc is going to send me to a cardiologist to check the big fluffy and small dense LDL. I guess she cannot do that test. But I feel great. Been eating keto for years. Almost carnivore now. Day before the test I ate lamb shanks for brunch and then supper was a ribeye. Ate 2 tiny boiled carrots with the lamb. Drank a kombucha (gts synergy). Do tons of walking.
    Next monday I do skin prick testing at the allergist. Seem to be allergic to milk now.

    • @metabolicmind
      @metabolicmind  Месяц назад

      Here is another video we did regarding LMHR, LDL, and keto. We hope it is helpful to you and your physicians ruclips.net/video/jybPe48bGtY/видео.html

  • @tomninatriolo8085
    @tomninatriolo8085 3 месяца назад +1

    I definitely have heart issues being diagnosed. I've been carnivore for 6 months trying to heal. Next week I will have a heart sonogram and see a naturopath for bloodwork. Total chloresterol, non fasting, is 450! Last year on low fat high carb, 196. I am probably a lean mass hyper-responder. Some calcification in left carotid artery.

    • @jimw6659
      @jimw6659 2 месяца назад +1

      I hope you consider getting a CAC scan to give you a baseline reading of arterial calcification and then repeat it in a couple of years, maybe, to see how it’s developing on the diet. I am in the same position as you and that’s my plan. I got my baseline score and am interested to see how the diet affects it. Good luck!

    • @tomninatriolo8085
      @tomninatriolo8085 2 месяца назад

      @jimw6659 yes! Just had one a couple weeks ago. If I'm reading it right, it's 0-1 but there's one lesion.

  • @kensho123456
    @kensho123456 4 месяца назад +2

    Very interesting.

  • @richardwebster1300
    @richardwebster1300 Месяц назад

    So what is the LPa-what is your opinion-I'm still waiting.

  • @dwaaziwaazi
    @dwaaziwaazi 4 месяца назад +1

    I want to know if targeting higher ldl reduces CAC

    • @jimw6659
      @jimw6659 2 месяца назад

      LDL is a terrible predictor of heart disease and, therefore, CAC. I think Hba1c and triglycerides are the big two to look at, with HDL third.

  • @nickf2170
    @nickf2170 Месяц назад +1

    I am concerned that this study also did not drill down to the correct level of real risk. Can the same analysis be done using LMHR subjects that have above normal APO B?? That is where the actual risk lies, and we need this answer flushed out. APO B years matter, and we don't want to be blind to this fact. I see people who seem to think the LMHR title is akin to being super man.

  • @250txc
    @250txc 4 месяца назад +3

    27:25 -- Looking inside these tiny particles and finding what is *exactly* in each particle might show a tremendous amount of new data on this saga. I'm in the camp that the body does what it needs to do at an exceeding correct % at almost all times.

  • @paulfiedler9128
    @paulfiedler9128 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm wondering if returning to carbs in amounts that far exceed keto lifestyle limits can cause depression symptoms. I have been eating a relaxed keto diet of around 50 grams or less of carbs for about 11 months. But recently, I decided to try adding lentils, red kidney beans, and some starchy vegetables back into my meals. After two weeks of high increases in my carb per day totals, I have put about three pounds back on, feel hungry even after eating a full meal, and I've been sluggish and feeling uncommonly blue. Can a return to carbs cause mild depression?

    • @metabolicmind
      @metabolicmind  4 месяца назад +2

      Some people have reported a recurrence of depression when they are no longer in ketosis. It's interesting to note that some people do just fine, and other struggle. There is a clear individuality in peoples' response.

    • @pmccord9
      @pmccord9 4 месяца назад +1

      My experience is that additional 40 gr of carbs to carnivore (20-30 gr/day) leaves me lethargic and prone to inflammation (joint pain) next day. That absolutely affects my mood, even stimulates existential issues: depression. Vegetables aren't worth it.

    • @dixydarlin56
      @dixydarlin56 2 месяца назад +2

      I experienced the same even with 50g carbs. Have you tried 0g just to see what it could feel like?

    • @Marco-pf3te
      @Marco-pf3te 3 дня назад

      Aside from the carb side of things... Legumes contain a lot of lectins that are unfit for some people

  • @Tee667
    @Tee667 4 месяца назад +7

    I’m amazed that these heart scans are somewhat frowned upon to check BUT statins are prescribed Willy nilly.
    I’m so confused by all of this. I have 450 total cholesterol HDL 1.6 tryglycerides oscillate between 0.60 & 0.80. I’m 7 kgs over ideal weight. I’m one of these carnivores (2yrs) with an HBA1c 5.7 yet insulin c peptide is fine BUT get dawn phenomenon and every time my P fasting glucose is 5.8/5.9. I’ve worn a CGM last two weeks and my BG stays within a very tight range except for morning. I don’t have high blood pressure either.
    Am I a risk or not, is the question I ask myself pretty much everyday. One day I’m not the next day I am… depends who I’m listening to. My functional doc has mentioned my high cholesterol again. I just give in. I wish someone would put out a beautifully presented video for dummies. A CAC scan in SA is R15,000 plus, I don’t have money for that. Moan moan moan! Pfft ah well

    • @speedyswede5585
      @speedyswede5585 4 месяца назад

      Keep up the faith. Stay as uninflammatory with your diet as possible. Search out what is uninflammatory and what foods are, etc.

    • @Tee667
      @Tee667 4 месяца назад

      @@speedyswede5585 I’ve been carnivore almost two years. Only occasionally going over 15g carbs a day. Mostly it’s in the 2g range (eggs). I’ve been doing extended fasting. Well over 40 fasts from 36/96hrs in last year and a half. I’ve turned to the lion diet now, last 3 weeks and OMAD. Something at some point has to shift. I’m also in menopause, had 4 major surgeries in 3 yrs so maybe just maybe it’s more to do with that than anything. Healing. I dunno

    • @francisvlatko2834
      @francisvlatko2834 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Tee667Have a particle size test if you are worried about your cholesterol.
      Your blood glucose is high so I would focus on eating more fat and less protein if you're not in ketosis. You might be a carnivore who is still using glucose through gluconeogenesis. In saying that, your BG numbers are also effected by stress, illness and exercise as you would see with your CGM.

    • @Tee667
      @Tee667 4 месяца назад

      @@francisvlatko2834 I’m seeing the doc tomorrow. I’ve already requested one of these in an email last week. I’ve had 4 major surgeries in 3 years. I think this has something to do with it. Have been listening to Bickman explaining insulin&glucagon and gluconeogensis. eating once a day should not create a problem.

  • @lindabirmingham603
    @lindabirmingham603 4 месяца назад +10

    Nick needs to stop with the sweet potatoes. They are very high in oxalates.

    • @nicknorwitzPhD
      @nicknorwitzPhD 4 месяца назад

      I've never had a kidney stone... don't eat sweet pots... do eat dark chocolate... 95% or greater...

    • @SET12DSP
      @SET12DSP 4 месяца назад

      I bet you may freak out to know I am on 30 grams of Vitamin C per day in divided doses. But really high dose C is acidic enough to desolve calcium. It's actually low dosing that can form stones. Reversing my coronary artery calcium with the Linus Pauling Heart Protocol verified by CAC.

  • @monicsala6639
    @monicsala6639 4 месяца назад

    I'm a slender person with high LDL, an LDL 188. I started the keto diet a few months ago. My A1C was 5.6, and it went down to 5.2.my liver enzymes went down to normal, but my LDL is still high.
    Should I get a CAC scan on my heart? My doctor wants to put me on statins. He's been pressuring me like crazy. I feel amazing on Keto, and I'm nearly carnivore.

    • @metabolicmind
      @metabolicmind  4 месяца назад

      That's a great response to your A1c! Congrats. We can't give advice about what tests you should get, but we can say that that many people find a zero calcium score very reassuring in terms of risk. But, of course, each situation is individualized. Some people find tremendous value in a one-time consultation with a doctor experienced with ketogenic therapy.

  • @zhoujinyuan
    @zhoujinyuan 4 месяца назад

    what about implications for less healthy cohorts, eg. those who already had heart attacks? There is a claim that statin can improve Atherosclerotic plaque.

    • @metabolicmind
      @metabolicmind  4 месяца назад +2

      Yes, data support that statins can help stabilize plaque in people with pre-exisitng coronary artery disease. It's debatable whether it is a direct LDL effect or an anti-inflammatory and direct plaque stabilizing effect. But that doesn't directly relate to the LMHR study, which didn't look at statins.

  • @user-ks7gs8rp6z
    @user-ks7gs8rp6z 2 месяца назад

    So my ldl went from 3.3 mmol to 6.8 mmol when cutting carbs and eating saturated fat. Im 165cm and 50kg female

    • @metabolicmind
      @metabolicmind  2 месяца назад +1

      Please take a look at all our LDL content, including an interview with Dr. William Cromwell, and share them with your clinician if you think it would help foster a more productive conversation about your options. ruclips.net/video/jybPe48bGtY/видео.html

  • @MeatBased365
    @MeatBased365 4 месяца назад +1

    💜

  • @kenadams5504
    @kenadams5504 2 месяца назад

    If I want ever want less ldl ,as an lmhr ,at least oreos are cheaper than statins, (and quicker).

  • @andrewnguyen3312
    @andrewnguyen3312 4 месяца назад

    Both groups have plaques and have high LDLs …. What is groundbreaking about this?
    There needs to be a comparison with a group with even lower LDLs (ones without any source of dietary LDL)

  • @mike.999.s
    @mike.999.s 4 месяца назад

    Keto diet is seemed as a nightmare by most neurologists. Warning ☠️

    • @nicknorwitzPhD
      @nicknorwitzPhD 4 месяца назад +8

      I have a PhD in neurometabolism... and I'm calling BS on that.

    • @sarahb.6475
      @sarahb.6475 Месяц назад

      The neurologist I saw was A OK with my keto diet. He understood that with the food allergies + food reactions I can eat what I can eat. And that is grass fed meat + pasture eggs.

  • @Coco-572
    @Coco-572 Месяц назад

    Genetics is irrelevant as well. 😳