Long live vinyl..... The fact that people are buying is fantastic. Big shops selling vinyl is just a gateway down the rabbit hole that leads to the independent record shops. 🙏👍✌
It's like going to McDonald's for ice cream. Yeah it's cheap and if you just want something sweet it'll do, but if you want that special Rocky Road Sundae you're gonna have to go to Mom and Pop's Ice Cream shop lol
Totally agree. But I did get a 180g reissue of the "The Wall" for £11 on Prime day. Youngest was thrilled when I gave it to him to add to his collection of 10 lps (so he stops "borrowing" mine..).
I feel the same way. All these big box retailers will stock the usual suspects like Dark Side of the Moon and Guns N' Roses first album represses because those are popular and meant to entice people who might be thinking about getting a record player. It's a novelty kind of thing for them. The heart and soul of the vinyl hobby as I see it is at your local record stores. That's where the good stuff is.
@@noblerecords I don't know why you are smiling at that. The people owning these mega stores are different than the people working at these stores. As far as finding work, beggars can't be choosers. We all can't work at mom and pop stores. Sorry, these places hire more people in a given community than you do. I don't want you to go out of business, but a Target or Walmart going out of business is going to affect the local community more. You are not doing it, but I don't understand people not wanting you to buy anything at a Target or Walmart. That is going to hurt the workers more than it is the owners. I also don't get people in the VC saying support your local record store but yet they do unboxing videos. What is there to unbox if you only shopping locally? How is buying from Ebay, Discogs, or some out-of-state company helping the local record store?
My favorite record store has a whole room full of record players and suggest listening before buying or just listening in general I spend a whole hour or 2 in there easy because it’s just a different feeling
Love your take on this. At this point in my collecting hobby (over 20 years collecting now) I cant find what I like at Walmart or any of these stores. However, if I see something I like right there, right now, Im getting it.
I like mom and pop / independant small shops.. developing a friendship with the shop is a nice thing. sometimes you may be looking for a title and they won't mind trying to get it for you.
I don't have any record stores where I live. So I have to buy online. But I wish I did because I often want to talk to someone knowledgeable about a record before I buy it. You won't get that from Walmart, Target, or Amazon. So if I had a choice between Amazon or a Record store where I could ask questions and get informed answers I would pay a few dollars more...
I’m just getting into vinyl but a huge part of the allure for me is the smell of old records that you can only get from secondhand stuff at a record store. Adds another layer to the nostalgic experience imo.
I am an old guy whose first music listening experiences at home, outside of radio, were 45s and some LPs. Of course, that was about the time they had just come out with the new thing, 8 track tapes and there were no cassettes and CD meant Civil Defense as evidenced by the signs on bomb shelters. And back then what are now called the big box stores, like Walmart/Kmart and others now long-gone sold LPs and 45s and the mom and pops survived and were cherished. There was also something called the Columbia Record Club (10 albums for a dollar). The defects you mention were also an issue back then, as you said, a hazard of the production processes. I agree with you, the more that are sold, the more will be available and affordable for those who enjoy them. I enjoyed your content, and you have a new subscriber.
I say go wherever. As long as people are experiencing music in a different format than Spotify,ITunes,and RUclips. It’s nice to have something physical.
A personal rule I put on myself while working part time at a friends independent store for a few years(2017-2020) it’s ok to buy the $30 record for $25 on Amazon, but THEN spend the $5 I saved in an independent store. A “ritual” I passed along to many customers!
I'm buying old albums from my record shop. Instead of paying roughly $30.00 for a new album I can usually buy two used albums for the same price. Plus the owner makes a bigger profit buying vinyl collections and reselling them. Now recently I bought a new copy of Iron Maiden Number Of The Beast at my local Walmart for $19.75. Sold! Plus as an added bonus, the woman at the register gazed at the cover and looked disgusted. That brought a spark of teenage rebellion back to my 51 year old self.
Always willing to pay more in independent record stores. Would rather pay 10% more for the experience and to support a local business. If we all bought from amazon there would be no record stores.
I prefer to buy recrods at independent record stores because they usually will have titles not available at Target or Walmart, especially those coming from boutique labels like Music On Vinyl, Vinyl Me Please, or even MOFI or Analogue Productions. I used to think that record stores would be more expensive than Target and Walmart but to my surprise, and based on personal experience, I have found that it's usually not the case. Over the past year I have found records from the above mentioned labels and plenty of others and quite competitive prices at independent and local shops; record stores have much more leeways on what they can sell and I just love that. One BIG exception is a store usually found in shopping malls called FYE (short for For Your Entertainment). This particular store doesn't focus solely on vinyl but boy their prices are ridiculously high. A few examples: I found a regular pressing of Radiohead's In Rainbows going for almost $50!!! Also, I spotted Red Hot Chili Pepper's regular pressing of Blood Sugar Sex Magic at $44.99!! None of these titles came with any special features and I have seen them going for much less at every independent record store that I have been to. I would say that about 80-90% of their stock is priced that way and can be easily found at more affordable prices in local record stores.
My experience has been that for the most part, true record stores and the people that frequent them are audiophiles that care about sound quality, the condition of the vinyl and it’s cover, the record store “experience”, and the vinyl community itself. Buying an album from a box store is about as exciting as bringing home a block of cheese. And buying online you also miss out on the “experience”, and you’re left praying to the delivery gods that the USPS, UPS, or FedEx carrier is gentle with your precious cargo. I don’t know, call me old school. It’s like this: Record store = a turntable, receiver, & speakers. Retail store and online = a $100 record player.
I live in Western Maryland. When I was a kid, I bought my records from Two Guys department store near my house. As a teenager into my 20s, I bought from Waxie Maxies in my local mall. The vinyl resurgence has brought two great mom & pop record stores to my area that I buy from often. I purchase some special “Only at Target” vinyl for the colors or bonus tracks. I also buy from Amoeba or Tower Records from time to time. I don’t buy ANYTHING from Amazon.
Here's a little secret. Walmart and target will eventually sell in "pallets" due to dings and unsellable even at clearance. I've purchased random crates full of recent and reissues at dirt prices. Litterally for $1-$10 per. Most were mint condition. Try getting connected to these individuals who run the liquidations. They are trying to recoup and rid of inventory at the same time.
During the 90s, Wal-Mart was the #1 retailer of music. One thing that kept Mom and Pop’s in business was that Wal-Mart wouldn’t carry anything offensive or with a parental advisory sticker. So if you wanted that, you had to go to an independent store. A big problem I had is that there were many “exclusive” releases that you could ONLY get at Wal-Mart (Eagles, Journey, AC/DC). However, don’t blame Wal-Mart for that, blame the artist and the record labels.
I looked all over for Rush Moving Pictures. No shop had it but Walmart had it online. Ordered it and it sounds great. I always support local stores to the point where if I’m on vacation I spend a day finding and supporting local stores in whatever area I’m at.
I've got over 15,000 records in my collection including some very high end stuff & I go to Mom & Pop stores for over 90% of it as I collect used vinyl. However if there is a new box set or if I see a re-release on Amazon for some ungodly cheap price I'm buying it. I bought a copy of the 3 LP version of A Love Supreme on Amazon for $31 when it came out. No Mom & Pop store can compete with that! However Amazon can't provide an original copy of the same record. As long as it's less than a $5 difference & i can afford it, i definitely buy new stuff from my local dealers. However if the price is too cheap to pass up, I'm not passing it up. Always support the local shops though! You guys keep the dream alive!
First, I would never ever try to haggle at a record store. It’s just rude. I did join the Amazon record club, but seriously, the wall for 25 bucks? However if my local record store has a copy of what I want I’ll buy it there. if the savings is SIGNIFICANT I do buy online and I’m disabled, so getting to my local record shops can be difficult. Secondly, I remember years back distributors would not let record stores return open product even if it was defective. Is that still the case?
As an owner myself of an Independent Record Store this sentiment rings very true with me as well. One thing that we also have over the Big Box is the community involvement of all our customers. Of course I’m going to stock in what I like and that will be a focus, but I’ll also stock in what my customers want - which gives everyone of us advantages over Big Box. I’ve explained in store why we can never beat pricing and Dylan did a great job simplifying why but one other thing of note is when you become a regular and you support your local store - we will also support you. As I like to say “I take care of those who take care of me”. Big Box won’t remember that you’re looking for a certain record and when we find automatically think of you. At the end of the day Music is Essential get it any way you can!
Another great episode, Dillon! The giants can use the tactic of 'loss-leader' which is selling at a slight loss just to gain the customer. If you know that you never find anything cheaper than at XX eventually you give up looking anywhere other than at XX. Hopefully, most people are aware that the local vinyl shop is a totally different vibe than the Big 3 which offers no vibe. I'll take this moment to give a shout out to my local hometown shop, Vintage Records in Leesburg VA. Noble Records is definitely on my travel bucket list whenever I get a chance to pass thru. Keep Rockin' 🤘
@@memyselfmyvinyl894 It's a nice little shop, has two levels, mostly all vintage albums but some new. Very friendly staff. If you want to see the inside of it, I did a video about a month back on touring it on my channel.
I totally agree with you. Being in South Orange County Calif I wish there was an independent record store near me. I'd never (or maybe almost never) buy another record from A, W, or T. The experience of being in a record store with all the new, used and vintage records cannot ever be duplicated by them. Searching through the bins, getting all dusty and finding something you've wanted - can't be beat. When I was younger every Saturday me and my friends would hit up 3 or 4 stores, then buy lunch and talk about what we bought. Amazon, Target and Walmart will never, ever give you that experience.
I am proud to be supporting the local record stores all over New York and Independents online. It's the right thing to do. I am really enjoying record collecting again !
Local record store for me. I can check for dings, scratches, and splits and walk out with a product I'm happy with. Specialist labels as well as these often don't end up in the record shop.
I went to your store a couple months ago when I was near Matthews, loved your store and you were so very kind. I was surprised to stumble across your youtube channel, I was like "HEY, I WAS THERE"
Beautifully said!!! As an independent record shop owner myself, I agree with you 100%!!! I have told my customers the same exact thing and feel the big box stores have helped grow the vinyl community. But, they will never be able to offer the selection, experience, knowledge, and level of service that independent record shops do. Thanks for posting this!!!
Man, I would not have dozens of the records I have if not for my favorite record store. In addition to awesome vintage stuff, the guys there take care of all who go there and introduce us to albums we've never heard before. If you love the popular stuff and Amazon or Walmart can help you, great! I truly hope you get what you want and it helps record sales. I guess it's just what you want. Thank you to all record store owners for your rare and cool stuff!
Well said What people today forget is in the 60s and early 70s we only had department stores to get our music from. Maybe a musical instrument store that sold some as an aside. When I shop at those places, I look and if it’s limited edition colored vinyl or something I might pick it up. I saw a 180 gm Rush 2112 for $19 at wlmrt
I recently bought a copy of the 4-record set version of the 2018 remix of the White Album for half the price it's normally sold for, It's in perfect condition.
Great topic today. I still love my brick and mortar stores. Vinyl to me is about the experience of crate digging and conversing with like minded individuals in a store setting.
Just got into vinyl records. I used Walmart to find albums that are popular that I like and I can have as entry level and for a low price. The place I live at we don't have any music stores or record stores within an hour. So Walmart is nice to have to get nice records and at entry level.
It’s pretty simple for me. I buy my OG copies, rarities, and special pressings from indie shops, and my new, cookie-cutter releases from a major retailer. That simple. Love your channel! 🤘🏼😎
Thanks My Friend!! There's something that your shop and other record shops offer That the big box and Amazon will never be able to offer, and that's KNOWLEDGE!! The knowledge you provide and share are incomparable to anything Wal-Mart can offer!!
Dylan you pay for the wonderful experience of being in a store listing to music and hanging out with friends.. I always support local stores and stores online. Keep it going..
Well said! Let reason prevail! I've spent about $100 at Target in the last year (for goofy new releases on exclusive colored vinyl) -- and well over $500 at my local record stores in the last two weeks for stuff that gets me way more excited.
Feeling pretty good about the money I spent on used vinyl yesterday, at a small shop I found while working on the road. I’m guessing this shop originated as a guitar/pedal/amp/instrument store and then evolved into buying/selling vinyl as well, but I don’t know the history. B’s Music Shop in Mount Pleasant, MI. They’ve got both new and used.
I do buy some albums from Amazon primarily because of their return policy (there are some serious quality control issues with new vinyl right now!) but I still buy most of my albums from independent record stores. I will happily spend two hours flipping through the crates and the dollar bins, talking music with the owner or other patrons, getting recommendations, and discovering new music. That's something that the big box stores and websites will never be able to replicate, no matter how many albums they sell.
Back in the late 60's when I started collecting vinyl the rule was to go to Department stores like Macy's, Sears, E.J. Korvette, Sam Goody's and Gimbel's for new releases because they had them in quantity at the cheapest price. If it was older, import or a catagory they didn't carry you went to the independent stores and didn't care about the price.
I started buying records at the same time, my first album purchase was in 1969. However, in my case the closest place to buy them (in my Philly suburbs) was an independent record shop as it was close to where I changed busses coming home from high school. The next closest was a Kiddie City on the far side of the same town. We also had a Sears that I went to to buy pretty much everything else, so I’d buy vinyl there. So, independent shop was the first choice but more for convenience.
@@mr.jazzfusionhiphop1298 I put all my vinyl into “temporary” storage in 1985 when I moved to the Middle East. And once there, started buying CDs wherever I could find them. Ended up losing my vinyl (long story), so I’ve stuck with CDs and now have a bunch. Recently slacked off buying them as well. But yeah, enjoyed the buzz of buying those records at the independent record shop in Ardmore, Pa. I imagine the buzz at Noble is much the same.
E.J. Korvette. A blast from the past! As a young, dumb teenager I would shoplift records there. Not proud of that, but I do still have some of those in my collection!
@@everettthompson1721 Well I'm glad you got them because they got all my cash in my early days of collecting vinyl. I guess over time though when it comes to music a lot places have got me.
We have(in Janesville, Wisconsin), "The Exclusive Company", and-like your store-the last bastion of "Mom & Pop" record stores. I was just in there on Monday(July 19th)with my Sister, & will forever patronize The Exclusive Company and other Mom & Pop stores I may visit. I would certainly patronize your record store if I lived nearby! God Bless You, Sir, &..."Thank You" for...doing what you do!
We're lucky to live in a college town and while we're shouting out local indies, next time in Athens hit Wuxtry, Low Yo Yo Stuff and if you're here on a weekend and are looking for darker selections try Shadebeast. Great selections you WILL NOT be finding in a box store. Can't wait to hit your shop soon Dylan!
I buy my records from Amazon, Walmart, AND my local record store.. in a perfect world I would buy from the store predominantly but the hard truth is Amazon/Walmart is just cheaper, I have a better chance of finding exactly what I want, plus I enjoy the online hunt. That being said I will always make it a point to go to my local shop once a month and pick up a record. Plus I do enjoy the entire experience of going to an actual shop, spending an hour there flipping though everything. The entire reason I got into vinyl in the first place was to get back a form of listening that I had growing up that is now lost in the digital age, and going to an actual physical store and picking something out is certainly part of that experience.
As far as WM and Target are concerned, their selections, even when fully stocked, are very limited. They’ll have tons of copies of a handful of titles, but you’re not going to find Blue Note Tone Poets on WM shelf. Their MO is popular, bestselling titles. Amazon from time to time has cheap deals on good records, and can often even be the last place to find a record that is sold out on the manufacture’s website, as well as mom and pop shops, that may still also be selling them at a lower rate. Indie stores are still the BEST place to find the BEST items 90% of the time. The downside is, a lot of people don’t have a neighborhood record store, and WM, Target, and Amazon are the only place they can really get the records they want. It really doesn’t matter to me, because at the end of the day, the bread and butter of record stores worth visiting is the used inventory. Those stores can’t match that. I think most people who have a firm opinion on this have an elitist mentality, which is just fine, but you have to keep in mind, some people can’t get to record stores because they’re aren’t any nearby, and if someone can pursue and ENJOY a hobby like record collecting through those channels, they absolutely should. If you can buy local, you absolutely should. All that matters is that records people WANT to own, are getting into their hands and into their turntables, and that’s all that matters. It grows from there.
So here's where I'm coming from. If it wasn't for seeing these at Walmart, I would have never gotten back into this hobby. I did this when I was young, but stopped about the time CD's came out. Finding some music I liked at Walmart, completely sucked me back in. I think this is good for the "Hobby".
totally agree on the first point with quality control - working part time shifts at a recordstore since 1998 and holding a dayjob in vinyl distribution as well there are way more faults and errors happening in vinyl production than ppl x customers in shops actually see. also when it comes to thing like seamsplit covers and all that... there's many things which can go wrong.
Great points and a great opinion on this. The majority of my collection is used albums from mom and pop stores, probably 90% is used from record stores. The other 9% is limited edition preorders or limited runs I order straight from the bands site or discogs. I do browse targets selection sometimes, have 2 target records, but generally they don’t have what I’m looking for. I’m a total record store guy and can’t wait to make it to you’re shop some day
I enjoy ALL your videos. For me it's "must see" programming. As a local loyal customer of yours there's one thing I can promise you, I have NEVER asked for a price cut on anything, and I'm not a "haggler" kind of person. You're not running a yard sale or flea market, and you're not a charity. You're IN BUSINESS..hence the word BUSINESS...to make a profit. For anybody wanting a discount, I'd say "go kick rocks", and that's me saying it nicely. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO! That last week saturday mega-drop is gonna be hard to top. So good luck on that one.
For new records, I’ll typically buy from Amazon because they are almost always much cheaper for the exact same release. However, I fully believe in supporting your local record store, and I will regularly buy used vinyl from the shops! Sometimes if I’m already in the shop, I’ll go ahead and buy a new release while I’m shopping for others - but I’ve recently done an experience t to price match the new albums and it’s sometimes up to 20 dollars more in store than amazon.
Absolutely love and agree with your perspective! Worth mentioning is that this isn't just a "thing" with records. Walmart / Amazon etc thrives by putting mom n pop shops out of business. Grocery stores, hardware stores, etc.
One of the best things about a local record store is cultivating a relationship with the owner/employees. They get to know your tastes and they will turn you on to bands. My local store owner has texted me before and said, 'I've got record x held back because I thought you might want it'. One time that turned out to be a Big Star #1 Record radio promo. Probably only a couple hundred of those. I'm sure you look out for your locals the same way.
Very positive view on it. It does get people interested in the format and you are right, these stores get the "popular" stuff. I try my best to support small businesses in general because of the one on one with the staff/owners. I'd rather spend the extra $4 with them and have a conversation about "what else to check out in that genre" than give Dr.Evil, I mean Bezios, my cash. 😁 Keep up these great videos dude. 🤘
I grew up on an island and the only place, that I new of and close by was a Woolworth so can't knock it. In Cali I befriended a local record store owner. It was great cause he got to know what I liked in music and expanded my musical horizon, the whole reason I love ambient music now. But they did get irate if they found out you bought somewhere else. But yeah the personal service is what is great with local record shops. And ofcourse I still live in a town w/o a record store, so for me it's either B&N, basically across the street, or a high-end stereo store 20mins away which I try(before all the crazyness) to go through first due to them being a long established mom&pop store.
I used to work at a record store back in the day and I do my best to support record stores. The problem is I don't *currently* live near one. I am moving to a college town with three of them, so I will be supporting all three of them, hopefully. All that being said, I'm a huge Wilco fan and when they re-released Summerteeth deluxe for 100 bucks and, as much as I love them and that album, I just couldn't justify it. I finally ended up pulling the trigger on it off of Amazon for 58 bucks. And you are right, the reason I shop at record stores are for stuff I can't get, especially used stuff. I have a good mix of used and new and I do my best to buy local, but sometimes, you just gotta do what you gotta do with my dough.
The beauty of a record store…..walking in at the right moment to find that gem or rarity to buy or if you already have it just to hold it. Never get that feeling at a retail store🎸
I 100% agree (and a lot of the other record store owners I’ve talked to also have a similar take). So far, these big box stores really haven’t negatively impacted independent record stores. My local store offers so many more things that Walmart or Target can. From customer service, recommendations, and less popular genes, are all things that you just can’t get from a big box stores. I’ll gladly spend an extra $3-5 for a record to support my local store, but I also occasionally buy colored exclusives from those big box stores.
Back in the 80s and 90s Walmart, Target, Kmart etc all sold records. Then when records went out of style they had CDs. Then you had best buy, circuit city , Sam goody, tower, blah blah blah. So when records started getting popular again they condensed their cd racks to make space again. So they never (weren't) competition. They don't get in all the titles released each week. The mainly have old reissues and some of the huge latest artists. Indie record stores are and have always been for the more obscure titles and a larger selection. I shop both. I also work for one of the retail mentioned so I get discounts. With the price of vinyl , that extra 15% off comes in handy. Then about the quality. I've had good, bad, terrible and junk bought at both type of businesses. The nice thing about Walmart, Target etc is if your copy is bad you can return it for a new copy or refund. Where as most if not all indie stores have signs for new vinyl saying "all sales final". So I support both, but if I can get it cheaper and have a return policy, I'm gonna shop there first.
I collect music and sports memorabilia. I’ve never bought either at a Walmart or Target. I always go to the independent shops for both. As someone who’s self employed as is my wife as well we give are money to their small business even if it costs a little more. I like the personal connections you get with smaller businesses
When I began collecting 7-8 years ago, most new records were between $19-$24. Now, it's more like $27-$33 for a single LP, sometimes more, with double albums in the $40-$50 range. When records were cheaper, I would go browse, search and discover albums in independent stores. Now, it's a lot more expensive to do that, and often I only buy directly from just a few artists/labels online when their pre-orders go up. I miss the hunt, but it's a lot more expensive hobby now. On top of that the local stores in my city just don't offer much $ in return when I try selling them NM and VG+ classic albums (I've sold great records in great shape to stores and only gotten $7, and the next day the shop is selling it for $28, which doesn't exactly endear me to supporting them). So I'm at a crossroads you could say.
Some of us have to really travel to get to a local record store - - they are still a few & far between. I have one I visit when I can but it takes 30 minutes - - so it is not always convenient but always enjoyable once I am there. The other store is 1 hour away, so yes I support them & enjoy the physical stores as much as possible but when life gets in the way I will order new releases from Amazon with no shame :)
there is nothing like going to a local shop, luckily for me, my "guy" gets all Blue Note releases, I do buy from Acoustic Sounds and others though My store actually is cheaper than the stores, Amazon, not withstanding...the other thing is my guy actually holds records for me, we have become friends, he knows my taste, and no pesky shipping cost or delivery mishaps, cheers!
Hey Dillon.... chiming in as requested! Yes, I have a dirty secret..... I buy some records from Amazon. But.... I also buy a LOT of records from indies, from eBay, from Discogs, from fairs, private listings.... I mostly buy direct from the artist or their label. In the UK there is a distribution company called Burning Shed run by artists for artists and I've bought a lot of stuff from there. I've always had a slightly guilty conscience about buying online from Amazon, but your video has just made me feel a little better about it! Anyway, wish I could buy from you matey, I like your attitude and style, but the cost of international postage precludes that. Thanks for your vids - they always make me smile :) (maybe I could feature you on my channel one day? Just a thought!)
I agree with you. At this point in my collection I just buy a few exclusive releases here and there from the big box stores. But nothing will ever beat crate digging for gold in independent stores. Ever since I started to get to know the ppl that own my local stores, I want to dig and hunt that much more.
I'm from the U.K. and I can remember buying L.P's in the 1970's. The process was that I picked up the empty record jacket from the record racks, took it to the counter,the assistant took that jacket and looked through a rack of L.P's,put the L.P in the Record jacket gave it to me, i paid and was happy to inspect on the way home. No shrink wrap involved at all. I'm not a fan of shrink wrap.It's a pain to remove without the thought of damaging the sleeve. Prices for L.P's can be way above my income can allow. in major record shops, curiously independents do have lower prices sometimes. Especially for albums which have been a cash cow for the record company. Kudos to you for not slagging off the band waggon jumpers.
Bought Rolling Stones Hot Rocks used at a independent regional record store (Newbury Comics). For $18. Very little noise.. in fantastic shape... And also bought a branded new Jimi Hendrix Are You Experience that was A Quality Records Pressing edition for $25. Nothing like that experience of shopping and finding things..
As usual, you’re right and people should listen. I wouldn’t put Amazon with Walmart and Target. WalTar have new and only the most popular albums and they’re both huge corporate entities. I won’t be buying much from them. Amazon is different, many of their partners are small independent record outlets, they have just chosen Amazon as a venue rather than a store. I do support them. I can get a new Tone Poet release on Amazon for a good price and no delivery charge, I can’t get these at Target or Walmart or, in many cases, not even at the closest independent record store (maybe yes, maybe no). My closest independent record store is an hour and a half away, fairly inconvenient, but I do shop there for vintage, collectors vinyl, etc. There’s room for everyone and everyone serves a purpose. And you’re right, Target and Walmart have gotten people into vinyl, and that’s great.
Good point... It's for the hard to find records.. which you have because you think like your customer... I do l look when I go to Walmart... I did buy the white album.. box, very good find. But I always support local stores as a first priority....see you in August... Dan the vinyl man....
I agree with what you say about independent record shops and the big box retailers. For me, If I go to Target or Wal-mart it's to buy clothing or food or deodorant. I don't go to these retailers specifically to seek out records but I will stroll over there to take a look. If I'm going to a record store its of course to look at the records. To me there is something to be said about going to my local record store and striking up a conversation with someone about music. I can't do that at big box stores.
I just started buying vinyl records so I am very new to it. I started buying from Walmart but I discovered a local record store that I absolutely love and buy from them now. I went to a FYE over the weekend and they were over priced on there vinyl records and it was cheaper to buy the album I wanted cheaper at my local record store.
Great video I buy online independent record stores and some times Amazon .also if people decide to get of records you have the chance to buy them a few years down the line
Big box stores are where alot of ppl got records in the 70s an 80s I can't count how many vintage sealed albums I've gotten that had a Kmart or even sears stickers on them
I only buy records from Walmart that are exclusive coloured edition exclusives. I ordered Barbra Streisand's Release Me 2 on various special coloured vinyl editions. Barnes & Noble, green label, clear vinyl, Target, pink label with exclusive bonus track & gray vinyl, Amazon UK, violet label, lavender vinyl, Barbra Streisand store, magenta label with white vinyl & indie edition picture disc from Amoeba Music. I live in Baton Rouge, where we don’t have any great indie record stores. New Orleans has Peaches on Magazine Street, which is several dollars more on new CDs & vinyl LPs than other stores. My favourite indie record store is Amoeba Music, the Hollywood location in Los Angeles. I love it because the selection is great & the prices are reasonable on new CDs & vinyl LPs.
Well put Dillon. I’ve seen the Walmart record buying shaming videos. You can support indie record stores,as well as any local/indie business, and still buy from big box stores as well. I like to support my small neighborhood grocer but still need to buy things from the bigger grocery down the road. Value, selection . It’s a personal and fiscal thing. Rock on.
It’s all about the service, not the records that a local shop is selling. I can get it online for half the price. It’s ALL about the relationship. The store’s vibe…. Employees that think they know all about the records, snob, moody. Bye bye. It’s either a really cool friendly record shop or half the price delivered to my door.
I often think about community. I worked in an independent record in the 80's. I many stories about the loyal customers that would come in every week to talk about what's new, what do we recommend?, what does this record sound like?, can you get this import single? etc... Also, I have life-long friends that I made while working there. Never gonna happen on Amazon.
My local Walmarts and Targets have very few records I've bought a few from Walmart when they have sales but thats it. Amazon is my last resort. Something those three will never have is great personal customer service, great conversation with other patrons and shop employees and owners. Most of the shops I go to know me by name. I could go and hang out and just talk records and music for hours.
I’ve never owned a record player, but lately I’ve really been getting back into physical media and I’m considering getting both a record player and a cassette tape player. Point being, I’ve been buying blu rays, dvd’s, vhs tapes, old games and console for a couple years now. I almost ALWAYS go to mom and pop shops! Mostly for the experience of going into a family owned small store like the good days and browsing inventory while observing other people doing the same. Also, I know what I’m getting. I can easily buy online. It’s often far cheaper, even with shipping, and nowadays shipping is so fast. But nothing beats the in-store experience and I don’t mind putting a few extra bucks into my community’s pocket for that experience
Great Vid D man! Totally agree with EVERYTHING you said. Besides, at any point in time Wal-Mart MAYBE has what...maybe 20-30 titles on the shelf at any point in time? You have 1000s and 1000s of different titles at any point in time. Eventually all those Wal-Mart records will find their way into your shop as a used lp anyway lol.
Records that are stored and sold by Amazon (I don't know about Walmart or Target) are often kept at temperatures too high and warping from this is very common. I've bought records on Amazon, but the ones that come from independent record sellers and are shipped directly from them, are much more reliable. I love independent record stores, but if you are shopping on the internet, keep this in mind. I've had to return about 70% of records I bought on Amazon because of heavy warps. Independent record shops will always be better, if you have access to them.
My 1st Wal-Mart purchase was Metallica/Black Album. I tried to buy it on the internet and noticed that my local Wal-Mart had it in stock instead . Double LP, Blacker Marbled Swirl color info a pretty cool label. I gave the vinyl a chance and it is killer! The bottom that this album puts out is truly amazing! Their Metallica "And Justice for All" LP on Green vinyl commands a good price on the secondary market also and it's pretty cool to have vinyl colors of all sorts. As time moves forward the new vinyl will become used vinyl anyway...
For me, it doesn't matter where you buy your desired record from this or that. What matters to me is to find the best priced LP at a very good condition possible. I am really trying hard not to overpay when buying records. Also, not all pressings from Walmart or Target are pressed well, and yes, you're right. Walmart/Target are producing large quantities of these pressings so I wouldn't not expect a tippy top sound quality. Sure, there are some albums that I want to buy from Walmart/Target, but I'm mainly concerned first with the price and the reviews of the sound quality/pressing. If it's bad, then it's not for me, it's not worth the investment to spend on a crappy/poorly pressed record. Personally, I would go for a earlier pressing as much as possible. Therefore, I am in favor to support my local record store because to me, it feels like home where you can interact with the owner or whoever's managing the store. It's cheaper, more authentic to considered it as a vintage, and it's really good feeling to find a preloved record on the wild where its on pristine condition (both medium and album sleeve). Taking it home and continuing to preserved it for many years to come. Not to mention, the thrill of the hunt as well! :) Unlike browsing at Walmart/Target, you already know what to expect from the shelves.
I like your perspective…as collectors grow in their hobby, they begin to seek out albums only independents would have
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That’s me right now
Long live vinyl..... The fact that people are buying is fantastic. Big shops selling vinyl is just a gateway down the rabbit hole that leads to the independent record shops. 🙏👍✌
It's like going to McDonald's for ice cream. Yeah it's cheap and if you just want something sweet it'll do, but if you want that special Rocky Road Sundae you're gonna have to go to Mom and Pop's Ice Cream shop lol
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Yeah, so long as you’re in a town large enough to have that option. Not everyone does.
Wait, your McDonald’s ice cream machine actually works?
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Walmart & Amazon doesnt have "The Wall" of gems/rarities/rare grooves
Totally agree. But I did get a 180g reissue of the "The Wall" for £11 on Prime day. Youngest was thrilled when I gave it to him to add to his collection of 10 lps (so he stops "borrowing" mine..).
@@quentinvaughan7640 yup. Amazon also has the best pre-order prices. Sometimes the price of a record will drop lower than the original MSRP for a week
I feel the same way. All these big box retailers will stock the usual suspects like Dark Side of the Moon and Guns N' Roses first album represses because those are popular and meant to entice people who might be thinking about getting a record player. It's a novelty kind of thing for them. The heart and soul of the vinyl hobby as I see it is at your local record stores. That's where the good stuff is.
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This felt like and actual conversation. I found myself talking back and responding 😂. Thanks for the insight man 💽
SUPPORT LOCAL SHOPS… leave the other guys to their space travel 😜
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@@noblerecords I don't know why you are smiling at that. The people owning these mega stores are different than the people working at these stores. As far as finding work, beggars can't be choosers. We all can't work at mom and pop stores. Sorry, these places hire more people in a given community than you do. I don't want you to go out of business, but a Target or Walmart going out of business is going to affect the local community more. You are not doing it, but I don't understand people not wanting you to buy anything at a Target or Walmart. That is going to hurt the workers more than it is the owners. I also don't get people in the VC saying support your local record store but yet they do unboxing videos. What is there to unbox if you only shopping locally? How is buying from Ebay, Discogs, or some out-of-state company helping the local record store?
My favorite record store has a whole room full of record players and suggest listening before buying or just listening in general I spend a whole hour or 2 in there easy because it’s just a different feeling
Love your take on this. At this point in my collecting hobby (over 20 years collecting now) I cant find what I like at Walmart or any of these stores. However, if I see something I like right there, right now, Im getting it.
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I agree with that
I like mom and pop / independant small shops.. developing a friendship with the shop is a nice thing. sometimes you may be looking for a title and they won't mind trying to get it for you.
I don't have any record stores where I live. So I have to buy online. But I wish I did because I often want to talk to someone knowledgeable about a record before I buy it. You won't get that from Walmart, Target, or Amazon. So if I had a choice between Amazon or a Record store where I could ask questions and get informed answers I would pay a few dollars more...
I’m just getting into vinyl but a huge part of the allure for me is the smell of old records that you can only get from secondhand stuff at a record store. Adds another layer to the nostalgic experience imo.
I am an old guy whose first music listening experiences at home, outside of radio, were 45s and some LPs. Of course, that was about the time they had just come out with the new thing, 8 track tapes and there were no cassettes and CD meant Civil Defense as evidenced by the signs on bomb shelters.
And back then what are now called the big box stores, like Walmart/Kmart and others now long-gone sold LPs and 45s and the mom and pops survived and were cherished. There was also something called the Columbia Record Club (10 albums for a dollar). The defects you mention were also an issue back then, as you said, a hazard of the production processes.
I agree with you, the more that are sold, the more will be available and affordable for those who enjoy them.
I enjoyed your content, and you have a new subscriber.
I say go wherever. As long as people are experiencing music in a different format than Spotify,ITunes,and RUclips. It’s nice to have something physical.
A personal rule I put on myself while working part time at a friends independent store for a few years(2017-2020)
it’s ok to buy the $30 record for $25 on Amazon, but THEN spend the $5 I saved in an independent store. A “ritual” I passed along to many customers!
I'm buying old albums from my record shop. Instead of paying roughly $30.00 for a new album I can usually buy two used albums for the same price. Plus the owner makes a bigger profit buying vinyl collections and reselling them. Now recently I bought a new copy of Iron Maiden Number Of The Beast at my local Walmart for $19.75. Sold! Plus as an added bonus, the woman at the register gazed at the cover and looked disgusted. That brought a spark of teenage rebellion back to my 51 year old self.
That is awesome. lol
Always willing to pay more in independent record stores. Would rather pay 10% more for the experience and to support a local business. If we all bought from amazon there would be no record stores.
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The nearest record shop by me is 45 minute but the Walmart is just down the street
I prefer to buy recrods at independent record stores because they usually will have titles not available at Target or Walmart, especially those coming from boutique labels like Music On Vinyl, Vinyl Me Please, or even MOFI or Analogue Productions. I used to think that record stores would be more expensive than Target and Walmart but to my surprise, and based on personal experience, I have found that it's usually not the case. Over the past year I have found records from the above mentioned labels and plenty of others and quite competitive prices at independent and local shops; record stores have much more leeways on what they can sell and I just love that. One BIG exception is a store usually found in shopping malls called FYE (short for For Your Entertainment). This particular store doesn't focus solely on vinyl but boy their prices are ridiculously high. A few examples: I found a regular pressing of Radiohead's In Rainbows going for almost $50!!! Also, I spotted Red Hot Chili Pepper's regular pressing of Blood Sugar Sex Magic at $44.99!! None of these titles came with any special features and I have seen them going for much less at every independent record store that I have been to. I would say that about 80-90% of their stock is priced that way and can be easily found at more affordable prices in local record stores.
My experience has been that for the most part, true record stores and the people that frequent them are audiophiles that care about sound quality, the condition of the vinyl and it’s cover, the record store “experience”, and the vinyl community itself. Buying an album from a box store is about as exciting as bringing home a block of cheese. And buying online you also miss out on the “experience”, and you’re left praying to the delivery gods that the USPS, UPS, or FedEx carrier is gentle with your precious cargo. I don’t know, call me old school. It’s like this: Record store = a turntable, receiver, & speakers. Retail store and online = a $100 record player.
I live in Western Maryland. When I was a kid, I bought my records from Two Guys department store near my house. As a teenager into my 20s, I bought from Waxie Maxies in my local mall.
The vinyl resurgence has brought two great mom & pop record stores to my area that I buy from often.
I purchase some special “Only at Target” vinyl for the colors or bonus tracks.
I also buy from Amoeba or Tower Records from time to time.
I don’t buy ANYTHING from Amazon.
Walmart doesn't have you, you're knowledge, expertise, and passion. Thank you for that.
Here's a little secret. Walmart and target will eventually sell in "pallets" due to dings and unsellable even at clearance. I've purchased random crates full of recent and reissues at dirt prices. Litterally for $1-$10 per. Most were mint condition. Try getting connected to these individuals who run the liquidations. They are trying to recoup and rid of inventory at the same time.
During the 90s, Wal-Mart was the #1 retailer of music. One thing that kept Mom and Pop’s in business was that Wal-Mart wouldn’t carry anything offensive or with a parental advisory sticker. So if you wanted that, you had to go to an independent store.
A big problem I had is that there were many “exclusive” releases that you could ONLY get at Wal-Mart (Eagles, Journey, AC/DC). However, don’t blame Wal-Mart for that, blame the artist and the record labels.
I looked all over for Rush Moving Pictures. No shop had it but Walmart had it online. Ordered it and it sounds great. I always support local stores to the point where if I’m on vacation I spend a day finding and supporting local stores in whatever area I’m at.
I've got over 15,000 records in my collection including some very high end stuff & I go to Mom & Pop stores for over 90% of it as I collect used vinyl. However if there is a new box set or if I see a re-release on Amazon for some ungodly cheap price I'm buying it. I bought a copy of the 3 LP version of A Love Supreme on Amazon for $31 when it came out. No Mom & Pop store can compete with that! However Amazon can't provide an original copy of the same record. As long as it's less than a $5 difference & i can afford it, i definitely buy new stuff from my local dealers. However if the price is too cheap to pass up, I'm not passing it up. Always support the local shops though! You guys keep the dream alive!
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First, I would never ever try to haggle at a record store. It’s just rude. I did join the Amazon record club, but seriously, the wall for 25 bucks? However if my local record store has a copy of what I want I’ll buy it there. if the savings is SIGNIFICANT I do buy online and I’m disabled, so getting to my local record shops can be difficult.
Secondly, I remember years back distributors would not let record stores return open product even if it was defective. Is that still the case?
No, we can return them if they are open
As an owner myself of an Independent Record Store this sentiment rings very true with me as well. One thing that we also have over the Big Box is the community involvement of all our customers. Of course I’m going to stock in what I like and that will be a focus, but I’ll also stock in what my customers want - which gives everyone of us advantages over Big Box. I’ve explained in store why we can never beat pricing and Dylan did a great job simplifying why but one other thing of note is when you become a regular and you support your local store - we will also support you. As I like to say “I take care of those who take care of me”. Big Box won’t remember that you’re looking for a certain record and when we find automatically think of you. At the end of the day Music is Essential get it any way you can!
I'm with you, never fault anyone for where they buy vinyl, as long as they're enjoying the format!
Another great episode, Dillon! The giants can use the tactic of 'loss-leader' which is selling at a slight loss just to gain the customer. If you know that you never find anything cheaper than at XX eventually you give up looking anywhere other than at XX. Hopefully, most people are aware that the local vinyl shop is a totally different vibe than the Big 3 which offers no vibe. I'll take this moment to give a shout out to my local hometown shop, Vintage Records in Leesburg VA. Noble Records is definitely on my travel bucket list whenever I get a chance to pass thru. Keep Rockin' 🤘
My brother lives in Leesburg and I wanted to go to that shop when I was there a couple weeks ago but didn't have time. My trip got cut short.
@@memyselfmyvinyl894 It's a nice little shop, has two levels, mostly all vintage albums but some new. Very friendly staff. If you want to see the inside of it, I did a video about a month back on touring it on my channel.
I totally agree with you. Being in South Orange County Calif I wish there was an independent record store near me. I'd never (or maybe almost never) buy another record from A, W, or T.
The experience of being in a record store with all the new, used and vintage records cannot ever be duplicated by them. Searching through the bins, getting all dusty and finding something you've wanted - can't be beat. When I was younger every Saturday me and my friends would hit up 3 or 4 stores, then buy lunch and talk about what we bought. Amazon, Target and Walmart will never, ever give you that experience.
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I am proud to be supporting the local record stores all over New York and Independents online. It's the right thing to do. I am really enjoying record collecting again !
Local record store for me. I can check for dings, scratches, and splits and walk out with a product I'm happy with. Specialist labels as well as these often don't end up in the record shop.
I went to your store a couple months ago when I was near Matthews, loved your store and you were so very kind. I was surprised to stumble across your youtube channel, I was like "HEY, I WAS THERE"
Beautifully said!!! As an independent record shop owner myself, I agree with you 100%!!! I have told my customers the same exact thing and feel the big box stores have helped grow the vinyl community. But, they will never be able to offer the selection, experience, knowledge, and level of service that independent record shops do. Thanks for posting this!!!
Man, I would not have dozens of the records I have if not for my favorite record store. In addition to awesome vintage stuff, the guys there take care of all who go there and introduce us to albums we've never heard before. If you love the popular stuff and Amazon or Walmart can help you, great! I truly hope you get what you want and it helps record sales. I guess it's just what you want. Thank you to all record store owners for your rare and cool stuff!
My pleasure!
I think you are absolutely right, also I love the thumbnail for this video!
Well said What people today forget is in the 60s and early 70s we only had department stores to get our music from. Maybe a musical instrument store that sold some as an aside. When I shop at those places, I look and if it’s limited edition colored vinyl or something I might pick it up. I saw a 180 gm Rush 2112 for $19 at wlmrt
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So far I've only bought one album at Walmart. Revolver - The Beatles
I recently bought a copy of the 4-record set version of the 2018 remix of the White Album for half the price it's normally sold for, It's in perfect condition.
Great topic today. I still love my brick and mortar stores. Vinyl to me is about the experience of crate digging and conversing with like minded individuals in a store setting.
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There has always been something almost mystical about record shops to me. The whole record buying experience is/should be a tactile stimulation.
Totally agree!
Just got into vinyl records. I used Walmart to find albums that are popular that I like and I can have as entry level and for a low price. The place I live at we don't have any music stores or record stores within an hour. So Walmart is nice to have to get nice records and at entry level.
It’s pretty simple for me. I buy my OG copies, rarities, and special pressings from indie shops, and my new, cookie-cutter releases from a major retailer. That simple. Love your channel! 🤘🏼😎
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Thanks My Friend!! There's something that your shop and other record shops offer That the big box and
Amazon will never be able to offer, and that's KNOWLEDGE!! The knowledge you provide and share are incomparable to anything Wal-Mart can offer!!
😍👏🏾 love your accent, knowledge, fairness and record wall! *subscribed*
Dylan you pay for the wonderful experience of being in a store listing to music and hanging out with friends.. I always support local stores and stores online. Keep it going..
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Well said! Let reason prevail! I've spent about $100 at Target in the last year (for goofy new releases on exclusive colored vinyl) -- and well over $500 at my local record stores in the last two weeks for stuff that gets me way more excited.
I really appreciate you love your LP Album Collection
Feeling pretty good about the money I spent on used vinyl yesterday, at a small shop I found while working on the road. I’m guessing this shop originated as a guitar/pedal/amp/instrument store and then evolved into buying/selling vinyl as well, but I don’t know the history.
B’s Music Shop in Mount Pleasant, MI. They’ve got both new and used.
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I do buy some albums from Amazon primarily because of their return policy (there are some serious quality control issues with new vinyl right now!) but I still buy most of my albums from independent record stores. I will happily spend two hours flipping through the crates and the dollar bins, talking music with the owner or other patrons, getting recommendations, and discovering new music. That's something that the big box stores and websites will never be able to replicate, no matter how many albums they sell.
Back in the late 60's when I started collecting vinyl the rule was to go to Department stores like Macy's, Sears, E.J. Korvette, Sam Goody's and Gimbel's for new releases because they had them in quantity at the cheapest price. If it was older, import or a catagory they didn't carry you went to the independent stores and didn't care about the price.
I started buying records at the same time, my first album purchase was in 1969. However, in my case the closest place to buy them (in my Philly suburbs) was an independent record shop as it was close to where I changed busses coming home from high school. The next closest was a Kiddie City on the far side of the same town. We also had a Sears that I went to to buy pretty much everything else, so I’d buy vinyl there. So, independent shop was the first choice but more for convenience.
@@jjquinn2004 Those were the good old days. I'm kind of glad I no longer collect vinyl but it was a fun trip.
@@mr.jazzfusionhiphop1298 I put all my vinyl into “temporary” storage in 1985 when I moved to the Middle East. And once there, started buying CDs wherever I could find them. Ended up losing my vinyl (long story), so I’ve stuck with CDs and now have a bunch. Recently slacked off buying them as well.
But yeah, enjoyed the buzz of buying those records at the independent record shop in Ardmore, Pa. I imagine the buzz at Noble is much the same.
E.J. Korvette. A blast from the past! As a young, dumb teenager I would shoplift records there. Not proud of that, but I do still have some of those in my collection!
@@everettthompson1721 Well I'm glad you got them because they got all my cash in my early days of collecting vinyl. I guess over time though when it comes to music a lot places have got me.
We have(in Janesville, Wisconsin), "The Exclusive Company", and-like your store-the last bastion of "Mom & Pop" record stores. I was just in there on Monday(July 19th)with my Sister, & will forever patronize The Exclusive Company and other Mom & Pop stores I may visit. I would certainly patronize your record store if I lived nearby! God Bless You, Sir, &..."Thank You" for...doing what you do!
Thanks so much!🙏
We're lucky to live in a college town and while we're shouting out local indies, next time in Athens hit Wuxtry, Low Yo Yo Stuff and if you're here on a weekend and are looking for darker selections try Shadebeast. Great selections you WILL NOT be finding in a box store. Can't wait to hit your shop soon Dylan!
I buy my records from Amazon, Walmart, AND my local record store.. in a perfect world I would buy from the store predominantly but the hard truth is Amazon/Walmart is just cheaper, I have a better chance of finding exactly what I want, plus I enjoy the online hunt. That being said I will always make it a point to go to my local shop once a month and pick up a record. Plus I do enjoy the entire experience of going to an actual shop, spending an hour there flipping though everything. The entire reason I got into vinyl in the first place was to get back a form of listening that I had growing up that is now lost in the digital age, and going to an actual physical store and picking something out is certainly part of that experience.
I love looking into the local section at local record stores.
As far as WM and Target are concerned, their selections, even when fully stocked, are very limited. They’ll have tons of copies of a handful of titles, but you’re not going to find Blue Note Tone Poets on WM shelf. Their MO is popular, bestselling titles. Amazon from time to time has cheap deals on good records, and can often even be the last place to find a record that is sold out on the manufacture’s website, as well as mom and pop shops, that may still also be selling them at a lower rate. Indie stores are still the BEST place to find the BEST items 90% of the time. The downside is, a lot of people don’t have a neighborhood record store, and WM, Target, and Amazon are the only place they can really get the records they want. It really doesn’t matter to me, because at the end of the day, the bread and butter of record stores worth visiting is the used inventory. Those stores can’t match that. I think most people who have a firm opinion on this have an elitist mentality, which is just fine, but you have to keep in mind, some people can’t get to record stores because they’re aren’t any nearby, and if someone can pursue and ENJOY a hobby like record collecting through those channels, they absolutely should. If you can buy local, you absolutely should. All that matters is that records people WANT to own, are getting into their hands and into their turntables, and that’s all that matters. It grows from there.
Thanks for saying all this!
So here's where I'm coming from. If it wasn't for seeing these at Walmart, I would have never gotten back into this hobby. I did this when I was young, but stopped about the time CD's came out. Finding some music I liked at Walmart, completely sucked me back in.
I think this is good for the "Hobby".
totally agree on the first point with quality control - working part time shifts at a recordstore since 1998 and holding a dayjob in vinyl distribution as well there are way more faults and errors happening in vinyl production than ppl x customers in shops actually see. also when it comes to thing like seamsplit covers and all that... there's many things which can go wrong.
Great points and a great opinion on this. The majority of my collection is used albums from mom and pop stores, probably 90% is used from record stores. The other 9% is limited edition preorders or limited runs I order straight from the bands site or discogs. I do browse targets selection sometimes, have 2 target records, but generally they don’t have what I’m looking for. I’m a total record store guy and can’t wait to make it to you’re shop some day
I enjoy ALL your videos. For me it's "must see" programming.
As a local loyal customer of yours there's one thing I can promise you, I have NEVER asked for a price cut on anything, and I'm not a "haggler" kind of person. You're not running a yard sale or flea market, and you're not a charity. You're IN BUSINESS..hence the word BUSINESS...to make a profit. For anybody wanting a discount, I'd say "go kick rocks", and that's me saying it nicely. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO! That last week saturday mega-drop is gonna be hard to top. So good luck on that one.
Thanks jeff!
For new records, I’ll typically buy from Amazon because they are almost always much cheaper for the exact same release. However, I fully believe in supporting your local record store, and I will regularly buy used vinyl from the shops! Sometimes if I’m already in the shop, I’ll go ahead and buy a new release while I’m shopping for others - but I’ve recently done an experience t to price match the new albums and it’s sometimes up to 20 dollars more in store than amazon.
Absolutely love and agree with your perspective! Worth mentioning is that this isn't just a "thing" with records. Walmart / Amazon etc thrives by putting mom n pop shops out of business. Grocery stores, hardware stores, etc.
I appreciate you sharing your opinion, Dillon! I mostly purchase from independent shops, but on occasion, I will use other outlets.
One of the best things about a local record store is cultivating a relationship with the owner/employees. They get to know your tastes and they will turn you on to bands. My local store owner has texted me before and said, 'I've got record x held back because I thought you might want it'. One time that turned out to be a Big Star #1 Record radio promo. Probably only a couple hundred of those. I'm sure you look out for your locals the same way.
Very positive view on it. It does get people interested in the format and you are right, these stores get the "popular" stuff. I try my best to support small businesses in general because of the one on one with the staff/owners. I'd rather spend the extra $4 with them and have a conversation about "what else to check out in that genre" than give Dr.Evil, I mean Bezios, my cash. 😁
Keep up these great videos dude. 🤘
I grew up on an island and the only place, that I new of and close by was a Woolworth so can't knock it. In Cali I befriended a local record store owner. It was great cause he got to know what I liked in music and expanded my musical horizon, the whole reason I love ambient music now. But they did get irate if they found out you bought somewhere else. But yeah the personal service is what is great with local record shops. And ofcourse I still live in a town w/o a record store, so for me it's either B&N, basically across the street, or a high-end stereo store 20mins away which I try(before all the crazyness) to go through first due to them being a long established mom&pop store.
I used to work at a record store back in the day and I do my best to support record stores. The problem is I don't *currently* live near one. I am moving to a college town with three of them, so I will be supporting all three of them, hopefully. All that being said, I'm a huge Wilco fan and when they re-released Summerteeth deluxe for 100 bucks and, as much as I love them and that album, I just couldn't justify it. I finally ended up pulling the trigger on it off of Amazon for 58 bucks. And you are right, the reason I shop at record stores are for stuff I can't get, especially used stuff. I have a good mix of used and new and I do my best to buy local, but sometimes, you just gotta do what you gotta do with my dough.
The beauty of a record store…..walking in at the right moment to find that gem or rarity to buy or if you already have it just to hold it. Never get that feeling at a retail store🎸
I 100% agree (and a lot of the other record store owners I’ve talked to also have a similar take). So far, these big box stores really haven’t negatively impacted independent record stores. My local store offers so many more things that Walmart or Target can. From customer service, recommendations, and less popular genes, are all things that you just can’t get from a big box stores. I’ll gladly spend an extra $3-5 for a record to support my local store, but I also occasionally buy colored exclusives from those big box stores.
Thanks so much! 🙏
Back in the 80s and 90s Walmart, Target, Kmart etc all sold records. Then when records went out of style they had CDs. Then you had best buy, circuit city , Sam goody, tower, blah blah blah. So when records started getting popular again they condensed their cd racks to make space again. So they never (weren't) competition. They don't get in all the titles released each week. The mainly have old reissues and some of the huge latest artists. Indie record stores are and have always been for the more obscure titles and a larger selection. I shop both. I also work for one of the retail mentioned so I get discounts. With the price of vinyl , that extra 15% off comes in handy. Then about the quality. I've had good, bad, terrible and junk bought at both type of businesses. The nice thing about Walmart, Target etc is if your copy is bad you can return it for a new copy or refund. Where as most if not all indie stores have signs for new vinyl saying "all sales final". So I support both, but if I can get it cheaper and have a return policy, I'm gonna shop there first.
I collect music and sports memorabilia. I’ve never bought either at a Walmart or Target. I always go to the independent shops for both. As someone who’s self employed as is my wife as well we give are money to their small business even if it costs a little more. I like the personal connections you get with smaller businesses
When I began collecting 7-8 years ago, most new records were between $19-$24. Now, it's more like $27-$33 for a single LP, sometimes more, with double albums in the $40-$50 range. When records were cheaper, I would go browse, search and discover albums in independent stores. Now, it's a lot more expensive to do that, and often I only buy directly from just a few artists/labels online when their pre-orders go up. I miss the hunt, but it's a lot more expensive hobby now. On top of that the local stores in my city just don't offer much $ in return when I try selling them NM and VG+ classic albums (I've sold great records in great shape to stores and only gotten $7, and the next day the shop is selling it for $28, which doesn't exactly endear me to supporting them). So I'm at a crossroads you could say.
Some of us have to really travel to get to a local record store - - they are still a few & far between. I have one I visit when I can but it takes 30 minutes - - so it is not always convenient but always enjoyable once I am there. The other store is 1 hour away, so yes I support them & enjoy the physical stores as much as possible but when life gets in the way I will order new releases from Amazon with no shame :)
there is nothing like going to a local shop, luckily for me, my "guy" gets all Blue Note releases, I do buy from Acoustic Sounds and others though My store actually is cheaper than the stores, Amazon, not withstanding...the other thing is my guy actually holds records for me, we have become friends, he knows my taste, and no pesky shipping cost or delivery mishaps, cheers!
Hey Dillon.... chiming in as requested! Yes, I have a dirty secret..... I buy some records from Amazon. But.... I also buy a LOT of records from indies, from eBay, from Discogs, from fairs, private listings.... I mostly buy direct from the artist or their label. In the UK there is a distribution company called Burning Shed run by artists for artists and I've bought a lot of stuff from there. I've always had a slightly guilty conscience about buying online from Amazon, but your video has just made me feel a little better about it! Anyway, wish I could buy from you matey, I like your attitude and style, but the cost of international postage precludes that. Thanks for your vids - they always make me smile :) (maybe I could feature you on my channel one day? Just a thought!)
I agree with you. At this point in my collection I just buy a few exclusive releases here and there from the big box stores. But nothing will ever beat crate digging for gold in independent stores. Ever since I started to get to know the ppl that own my local stores, I want to dig and hunt that much more.
I'm from the U.K. and I can remember buying L.P's in the 1970's. The process was that I picked up the empty record jacket from the record racks, took it to the counter,the assistant took that jacket and looked through a rack of L.P's,put the L.P in the Record jacket gave it to me, i paid and was happy to inspect on the way home. No shrink wrap involved at all. I'm not a fan of shrink wrap.It's a pain to remove without the thought of damaging the sleeve.
Prices for L.P's can be way above my income can allow. in major record shops, curiously independents do have lower prices sometimes. Especially for albums which have been a cash cow for the record company.
Kudos to you for not slagging off the band waggon jumpers.
Bought Rolling Stones Hot Rocks used at a independent regional record store (Newbury Comics). For $18. Very little noise.. in fantastic shape... And also bought a branded new Jimi Hendrix Are You Experience that was A Quality Records Pressing edition for $25. Nothing like that experience of shopping and finding things..
I'll buy from both. Your 100% right. The actual record store has albums you can never find at Walmart.
As usual, you’re right and people should listen. I wouldn’t put Amazon with Walmart and Target. WalTar have new and only the most popular albums and they’re both huge corporate entities. I won’t be buying much from them. Amazon is different, many of their partners are small independent record outlets, they have just chosen Amazon as a venue rather than a store. I do support them. I can get a new Tone Poet release on Amazon for a good price and no delivery charge, I can’t get these at Target or Walmart or, in many cases, not even at the closest independent record store (maybe yes, maybe no). My closest independent record store is an hour and a half away, fairly inconvenient, but I do shop there for vintage, collectors vinyl, etc. There’s room for everyone and everyone serves a purpose. And you’re right, Target and Walmart have gotten people into vinyl, and that’s great.
I like how balanced you are despite being a record store owner and I overall agree with what you are saying.
Good point... It's for the hard to find records.. which you have because you think like your customer... I do l look when I go to Walmart... I did buy the white album.. box, very good find. But I always support local stores as a first priority....see you in August... Dan the vinyl man....
I agree with what you say about independent record shops and the big box retailers. For me, If I go to Target or Wal-mart it's to buy clothing or food or deodorant. I don't go to these retailers specifically to seek out records but I will stroll over there to take a look. If I'm going to a record store its of course to look at the records. To me there is something to be said about going to my local record store and striking up a conversation with someone about music. I can't do that at big box stores.
I just started buying vinyl records so I am very new to it. I started buying from Walmart but I discovered a local record store that I absolutely love and buy from them now. I went to a FYE over the weekend and they were over priced on there vinyl records and it was cheaper to buy the album I wanted cheaper at my local record store.
As a fellow store owner, I 100 percent agree with every statement you've made,
Thanks man!
Great video I buy online independent record stores and some times Amazon .also if people decide to get of records you have the chance to buy them a few years down the line
Big box stores are where alot of ppl got records in the 70s an 80s I can't count how many vintage sealed albums I've gotten that had a Kmart or even sears stickers on them
I only buy records from Walmart that are exclusive coloured edition exclusives. I ordered Barbra Streisand's Release Me 2 on various special coloured vinyl editions. Barnes & Noble, green label, clear vinyl, Target, pink label with exclusive bonus track & gray vinyl, Amazon UK, violet label, lavender vinyl, Barbra Streisand store, magenta label with white vinyl & indie edition picture disc from Amoeba Music. I live in Baton Rouge, where we don’t have any great indie record stores. New Orleans has Peaches on Magazine Street, which is several dollars more on new CDs & vinyl LPs than other stores. My favourite indie record store is Amoeba Music, the Hollywood location in Los Angeles. I love it because the selection is great & the prices are reasonable on new CDs & vinyl LPs.
Nothing like the feel of an independent record store
Well put Dillon. I’ve seen the Walmart record buying shaming videos. You can support indie record stores,as well as any local/indie business, and still buy from big box stores as well. I like to support my small neighborhood grocer but still need to buy things from the bigger grocery down the road. Value, selection . It’s a personal and fiscal thing. Rock on.
It’s all about the service, not the records that a local shop is selling. I can get it online for half the price. It’s ALL about the relationship. The store’s vibe…. Employees that think they know all about the records, snob, moody. Bye bye. It’s either a really cool friendly record shop or half the price delivered to my door.
I often think about community. I worked in an independent record in the 80's. I many stories about the loyal customers that would come in every week to talk about what's new, what do we recommend?, what does this record sound like?, can you get this import single? etc... Also, I have life-long friends that I made while working there. Never gonna happen on Amazon.
That live Dead collection is so goddamned beautiful.
You got a great attitude and good insights!👍
My local Walmarts and Targets have very few records I've bought a few from Walmart when they have sales but thats it. Amazon is my last resort.
Something those three will never have is great personal customer service, great conversation with other patrons and shop employees and owners. Most of the shops I go to know me by name. I could go and hang out and just talk records and music for hours.
Totally agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I’ve never owned a record player, but lately I’ve really been getting back into physical media and I’m considering getting both a record player and a cassette tape player. Point being, I’ve been buying blu rays, dvd’s, vhs tapes, old games and console for a couple years now. I almost ALWAYS go to mom and pop shops! Mostly for the experience of going into a family owned small store like the good days and browsing inventory while observing other people doing the same. Also, I know what I’m getting. I can easily buy online. It’s often far cheaper, even with shipping, and nowadays shipping is so fast. But nothing beats the in-store experience and I don’t mind putting a few extra bucks into my community’s pocket for that experience
Great Vid D man! Totally agree with EVERYTHING you said. Besides, at any point in time Wal-Mart MAYBE has what...maybe 20-30 titles on the shelf at any point in time? You have 1000s and 1000s of different titles at any point in time. Eventually all those Wal-Mart records will find their way into your shop as a used lp anyway lol.
Records that are stored and sold by Amazon (I don't know about Walmart or Target) are often kept at temperatures too high and warping from this is very common. I've bought records on Amazon, but the ones that come from independent record sellers and are shipped directly from them, are much more reliable. I love independent record stores, but if you are shopping on the internet, keep this in mind. I've had to return about 70% of records I bought on Amazon because of heavy warps. Independent record shops will always be better, if you have access to them.
My 1st Wal-Mart purchase was Metallica/Black Album. I tried to buy it on the internet and noticed that my local Wal-Mart had it in stock instead . Double LP, Blacker Marbled Swirl color info a pretty cool label. I gave the vinyl a chance and it is killer! The bottom that this album puts out is truly amazing!
Their Metallica "And Justice for All" LP on Green vinyl commands a good price on the secondary market also and it's pretty cool to have vinyl colors of all sorts. As time moves forward the new vinyl will become used vinyl anyway...
For me, it doesn't matter where you buy your desired record from this or that. What matters to me is to find the best priced LP at a very good condition possible. I am really trying hard not to overpay when buying records. Also, not all pressings from Walmart or Target are pressed well, and yes, you're right. Walmart/Target are producing large quantities of these pressings so I wouldn't not expect a tippy top sound quality. Sure, there are some albums that I want to buy from Walmart/Target, but I'm mainly concerned first with the price and the reviews of the sound quality/pressing. If it's bad, then it's not for me, it's not worth the investment to spend on a crappy/poorly pressed record.
Personally, I would go for a earlier pressing as much as possible. Therefore, I am in favor to support my local record store because to me, it feels like home where you can interact with the owner or whoever's managing the store. It's cheaper, more authentic to considered it as a vintage, and it's really good feeling to find a preloved record on the wild where its on pristine condition (both medium and album sleeve). Taking it home and continuing to preserved it for many years to come. Not to mention, the thrill of the hunt as well! :)
Unlike browsing at Walmart/Target, you already know what to expect from the shelves.