I don’t think vinyl will die. Theres several pressing plants in full swing. It would be nice if more plants opened up. Personally, I’d like to see the prices come down.
@@noblerecords Universal just increased it's list price on catalog and new titles (up to $10 for a single title). It was like cds are today. There always has been a niche for titles that still have an audience. Early presses will still be valuable but lesser quality ones will not like Bluenote 75. Today common 45's where the song is available on album isn't very valuable especially if the 45 is styrene.
In the Netherland, new vinyl albums had an average price from 1969 up to 1995 eight Euro then. The equivalent from 8 Euro at present is 55,-- Euro! Lately I purchased an album Cigarettes after sex, 180 grams, payed 27 Euro. Conclusion, vinyl is not expensive.
If I had to explain vinyl records to someone I would show this video, I couldn't do any better. This was an heartwarming journey into music appreciation in the finest way possible, your/our work is done!
I hope it gets back to the point where vinyl isn't 30-40+ for average albums. It's frustrating to go online and want an album, just to see the cheapest discogs listing run 90 bucks especially when it wasn't even an uncommon pressing. On a different note, the reason why i've stuck with vinyl is that it's got me to broaden my music taste. Everyone I know primarily listens to new music but i've been able to discover a lot of awesome psych stuff and other music I wouldnt have found had I gone through streaming. Also the sound is much better imho on a good vinyl pressing than other formats.
Yeah, these are the negative things that come with the hype, a lot of stuff is really overpriced these days. The most positive thing is that a lot of oop stuff gets pressed again. Maybe not so good for owners of the original pressings, since they will be harder to sell for high prices. But for people who missed a record in the past or weren't collecting that early it is nice. I guess sooner or later that big hype will slow down again.
I hear ya. I've been selling LP's in West Lebanon NH for some time & I have not marked them up so high. One seller insists on selling lets say, 'Meet The Beatles' in VG++ shape for $50. I sell them for $26- 30. Some folks are just greedy and some are realistic Keep rockin'
In regards to $30-40 per album if you look at the dollar value back to when many of us bought vinyl in the 70s the cost is about the same. A 1978 average $7.99 record would on be equal to $35+ today based on inflation. It’s crazy but true.
Another great video Dillon. One of my favorite parts of having a vinyl collection is the intention and experience of putting time aside to sit down and listen to at least a side of an album. Its slowing down and taking time. Its experiencing the nuance in new songs on an album that maybe I didn't give the time to in the past. Its nostalgic and it touches the soul. Vinyl will always be part of my life no matter no matter what happens in the mainstream.
Down here in New Zealand we have a decent supply of vinyl and there's plenty of good shops with huge selections, but damn near every video you put out has several things I've never even heard of let alone have any chance of finding locally. You've literally been programming my spotify for a couple of years now with all the new stuff you've introduced me to and man oh man... the spotify recommendations algorithm just doesn't know what to do with me any more. I just got The Dead Kennedys followed by a piece by Bartok. I approve of this situation, and I thank you.
I don't want it to die off, but I do want the interest and demand to calm. I just read today that prices are going up again from many labels. They are over priced already and used are almost impossible to find what I want. I think ~2013 levels would be ideal.
12:40 I honestly marvel at that fact. It's so cool to think that collecting rare vinyl is like treasure hunting art/music. I think that is a major part to why it is so rewarding. There are so many variables to this hobby that make it special. Certain ones are more significant to some people and I think that's what's so great about it. There so many choices and it becomes such a unique experience.
Brotha, I love your love of vinyl! Found your channel by accident like 2 weeks ago and I gotta say I love your videos. I've been a collector and DJ since 15yrs old, 26yrs later and I still love vinyl as much as I did then. The tangible feel of vinyl hits different than all other media and nothing replaces the experience of diggin' for it. Much love, keep on truckin' and keep on collecting.
I’m getting back into it now in my 40s cause I have the time and money. i used to ride my bike to the local record store and get the coolest album I could find after saving change for weeks from everyone. Lol. I didn’t realize how much I missed the process of listening to it this way. It’s nice to have a high quality streaming service, but there’s nothing that compares to vinyl, imo.
"Coming of age" in the mid/late '60s/early '70s, I was in musical utopia. Discovering "my" music was a real journey. I had a sibling in retail and continuously was bringing home music related magazines . Rolling Stone, Creem, Circus, NME, etc. I stayed in music shops looking at records and talking to anyone that I could about my passion. Being young, I had very little cash to blow on LPs and 45s. But it drove me crazy reading about things I couldn't acquire. Bought what I could, and lusted for the rest. Got my drivers license and it was tons of 8-tracks. Another great benifit of reading, I could see the influences of my favorites. Rolling Stones lead me to Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters, that lead me to Robert Johnson and Ledbelly. Or the Byrds leading me to the Louvin Brothers, Hank Williams or whomever. Now that I can afford it and we have the innerwebs, I've found myself compiling a small library of grails, not for collecting, but listening. Making up for lost time. It's a pretty cool rabbit hole to tumble down!
I feel the same way. I started collecting in early 2018 and there was such a euphoric feeling going to a local shop with friends to buy my first record player. (Garrard gt25ap belt drive from 1979) I got home and hooked it up to my 1995 stereo system and played Abbey Road(first U.S) on vinyl for the first time and it was shocked on good it sounded. I was used to hearing it on my CD player and ipod + smart phone but the unique qualities of hearing an original recording was beautiful. After that I immediately sought out original records of my favorite albums. I knew my time was limited to get them for a reasonable price because I could tell the major resurgence was well under way. I am glad I bought the albums I did back then.
I hope it doesn’t die out, it’s more than the listening experience. It’s the artistry that goes into vinyl that you don’t see with other forms of media. Think Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers, Velvet Underground, etc. it’s about the total experience that I love
I know EXACTLY what you mean about the thrill of the hunt, and the great feeling of a rare find. I started collecting records in the early 2000s. I remember trying to seek out the Beatles Hollywood Bowl LP. This was before that album was released on CD so vinyl or cassette were my only options of buying it at the time. As I recall, my dad and I were on vacation and we stumbled into this great used record store and I found the Beatles section and wouldn't you know, the first record I saw there was the Hollywood Bowl LP. Even my dad was taken back by my reaction. My jaw dropped and I just kept pointing and staring at it, and was almost screaming like a little kid, "Dad, buy me this record!" My reaction would almost make you think I was at the concert myself back in 1964! But there's just that feeling for a collector, as you said, to find something in person that they really want. I will always remember that moment. Vinyl will never go out of style for me. As a side note, I rebought the Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl on CD when it was rereleased digitally. While still good, somehow it lost some of its warmth, some of its charm. Vinyl is something special.
Absolutely Dylan. That’s a great point! Vinyl was how we had to listen in the 60s to the 80s but now, people are choosing to listen to music on vinyl. Even though there’s easier and cheaper alternatives. And the numbers are increasing, despite the costs. All ages. It’s an incredible time - and for life!
I appreciate your passion for vinyl. After you mentioned the Louvin Brothers in a past video I started looking for their records in Thrift stores. Recently, I found two in one store but it was disappointing because their condition was so bad I could not bring myself to buy them. Just over a week ago I had one of those I-can't-believe-I-found-it moments when I came across "The Family Who Prays" in very good condition. This was months after seeing your video reference. Thank you for introducing me to an artist I otherwise would not have known about.
I’m older than you but my experience echoes yours - I got my first records from my Mom (Ray Charles “What’d I Say”) and the thrift store. I worked in a record store as a teen; hung out there until they gave me something to do and they paid me in records. I went in wanting punk rock records and got schooled by the owner and employees about all kinds of music that I came to love. When I went away to college, I spent $5 a week at a used bookstore on records back when $5 usually got me two records or one I coveted (I skipped a few meals to spend $10 on a Television “Marquee Moon” promo copy). Then I stopped buying records as life brought new interests and challenges. Music was still a primary passion but it was all CDs or digital files, and my records sat safely stored away. Five years ago, my wife bought me a new vintage turntable I had wanted since I was a teen and said there was a used bookstore near her work that sold records, too. I walked out with Curtis Mayfield’s Roots album - she’s regretted that comment ever since. Playing records is a wonderful ritual I share with my kids (my seven year old loves his Stan Getz lps). I think the number of collectors may wax and wane but the passion and thrill of the hunt is just as addictive and enjoyable as it ever was. Even more so. Keep up the good work and keep spreading good music, community, and the promise of the next discovery!
Love this video. It would be so cool talking to you about records in a bar. I agree with everything you said and for me a record is the thing! It's the first original format that the music was on. So it's the original...an actual possession. It has to be kept. I never got rid of my vinyl records when CDs became the thing. CDs were just convinent and sounded great...like MP3s...but not the actual thing, the real deal. For this reason records will be here for ever.
Hi Dillon: 😀👍. Wonderful video! My vinyl is the nostalgic, the unusual, the classy and the unforgettable. My beloved CDs are typically three of these four. With 75 years of LPs, there is fantastic music to be found on vinyl. This 1950s looking cat with horn-rimmed glasses stared out me, mouth open, hovering over a set of bongos on an album cover. I could not resist it. The record was Cal Tjader ("Mambo With Tjader"). I became hooked on all manner of Latin Jazz. Today, my Sunshine State environment glows with it. Vinyl uniquely shines with the unusual. Rock Always! - Heather
The only reason I hope record buying mellows is so prices come down. Maybe I could buy some collections and I can feed my sickness. It started for me with my mom's 45's of The Beatles, which I still have. I own things now that I never thought I would own. Also as you said, it's the hunt ... I love the hunt. 😁
I'm listening to 13 Floor Elevators in the background because I know you love it. I grew up with vinyl. It's in my DNA. I'm very happy my 22 year-old daughter is now listening to and buying vinyl. I love record labels. They give records a certain distinctiveness. Even if our energy is rationed in the future, that will just make listening to records even more special.
I can not believe what I’ve just seen. Someone else has American Pie as their very first record. I’ve had my copy now since I was six years old and I’ve still got it. It’s pretty much worn out now but I’ll never get rid of it 😎
A record store owner here in my town said they won't die off, but the rise in cost for records are deterring a lot of newer collectors. The people that have been in it for a long time will stick around.
I grew up in the 60’s, and 70’s so records were it for me. I still have most of my original records, and did stop buying for about 8 to 10 years, during the vinyl drought. Now 98% of my record purchases are strictly MFSL, Analog Productions, or Speakers Corner, audiophile type labels. I have 4 of the Classic Record Zepp records, and wish I had purchased the entire set, or that Road Case, box set for $799 back in the day. Anyway, I enjoyed your video.
Speaking of covers drawing you in. You are right. That's happened so many times for me. Sometimes the cover was the best part of the album and I just couldn't get into the music but most of the time it introduced me to something that I really got into. One in particular was Manfred Manns Earth Band - Angel Station. I heard of Manfred Mann but nothing off this album. Its now definitely up there as one of my regularly listened to albums, from seeing it as someone's vinyl to owning a worn out 8-track as a kid to now owning my own copy of an original vinyl pressing. The cover art is just so awesome.
Bought my first peice in 1966..its been up and down..stay the ship !! We will continue..there is about 25,000 Lps in my collection..loved every minute of collecting..I've tried to quit..but alas I'm a music ad vinyl records lover!! Dillon you're the best!! Great analysis and commentary..
I've made this comment many times .... but Vinyl unfortunately is being looked at as an investment by most collectors . People are hoarding records , buying multiple copies , not unsealing them etc.. When this happens it creates a bubble of re-sellers which will eventually flood the market at some point that will eventually burst . Recent example was 2022 record store day , I purchased 3 box sets and the AIC album . All have been opened and listened to " well almost listened to as some of the sets have 5+ records " . My point is that I've seen hundreds if not over a thousand at this point of the records I bought that day for sale on Ebay and Discogs in the past month as I check every other day or so , these are just the quick resells as others will wait a year or so . I'd wager 1/3 of people on RSD in line with me were just flippers . This reminds me of the Comic Book and Sports card crash of the 90's when people were doing the same thing " minus ebay of course " . The reason why the old comics and sports cards became collectible is because people originally bought them for enjoyment and not to "keep them in mint shape " to resell them as an investment making them a rare commodity . When new cards and comics become dime a dozen and overpriced people stop becoming interested so they stop buying . The only hope for Vinyl is that it's a different commodity that has a purpose other than just staring at it ......but what do I know really 😉 This economic mess we are in will also hamper sales at some point as people need food and gas more than a $35 new release record . The prices will also keep going up as inflation is out of control as well and vinyl in itself being a petroleum based product doesn't help . Comic Book and sports cards stores used to be a common site when I was a Kid , they are pretty much gone , I'd feel bad for all the vinyl shops if this crash happened .
You could have gone back to COIN Collections and were my 1st clue to economics based on a feeling of value and not based on function and purpose ownership. ..... You're right that this hording will affect growth and shake out many who can't compete looking for albums they want to play. .... But honestly without a MUSIC STAR (instead of Video Stars) the LP will still reach a tipping point simply because the cost of ownership usually requires a place that can be used while enjoying the Entertainment. ...... That kind of Music is not heard much because to pay for living the life you compromise and soon the MUSIC is a SLAVE to the pyrotechnics steal from the art.
@@Labor_Jones Definitely not many coin collecting shops around these days as well . Coin collecting was a fun hobby as silver coins could still be found regularly in circulation well into the 80's . Even as a kid I remember all the silver quarters and dollars that were still in circulation . It's now a rich man's hobby for the most part.
We weren’t just “mesmerised by the technology of CDs” in a lot of cases, especially for smaller local bands, CDs became the only format, lots of bands that were just bands playing in pubs etc & weren’t loaded could only choose to put out maybe one format & CDs became the favourite due to the “temper of the times” so to speak
I really hope that cd (and digital in general ) mastering will improve and and that this damn LOUDNESS WAR will come to an end !!! Back in 2003 I was only buying my first vinyl record because the then re-master on the cd of that album sounded like shite !! there would be no reason to buy vinyl if cd's were mastered properly again ! I listen to mostly older music that was made in released before 1982, and I always wanted ( and want !) to hear the original sound of an album, therefore I had to buy vinyl ! But the prices for vinyl recently freak me out !! and for the artwork: It is easily to include (somehow) a digital HD picture of the artwork that you can see on your screen. Again: the prices for vinyl recently freak me out !!
The other problem is CD's have a cut-off at 20Khz and vinyl records can go up into the 50Khz range and YES, even if your hearing test said you can only hear to 16,000Hz, you can still feel or sense harmonics in music (Not sinewave test tones), that go up into the high 25,000 Hz range). There has been studies that prove it. It has something to do with your bones and other body parts detecting harmonics your eardrums cannot detect on their own.
@@AudioGuyBrian Oh wow that's fascinating. I was not aware of the effects of sound on different structures. As corny as it sounds I too tend to feel the music differently when it come to analog media. Maybe I'm just imagining it but when I listen to records or tapes It just feels a bit more natural and authentic to me.
Actually, the price of Records is very much perceived to be much more expensive today, compared to say the 1970's. But, actually, if you factor in inflation, wage increases, etc., paying [on average] between €20/$20/£20 to €30/$30/£30 for a new Vinyl Record release today compared to the 1970's there really isn't a significant difference. .
@@AudioGuyBrian the sampling frequency of compact discs is 44.1 kHz, that means the playback frequency ( that you hear) is 22.05 kHz. A human can hear from 20 Hz-20 kHz at very best. vinyl records have a standard frequency range up to 23,5 kHz and everything above that is lower in volume so that you can fit 20-30 min of music on a one vinyl side. beside that all very low frequencies up to 40 Hz are mono on a vinyl record. I have heard that you can even put frequencies up to 100 kHz on a vinyl record, but then you could only put some minutes on each side and not 20-30 min. Also the dynamic range of a vinyl record is only about 60 db while a compact disc can have 96 db, but the loudness war mastering of cd's (where the dynamic range is totally compressed..) makes you think that it is the other way around^ anyway, enjoy the music you like on the medium you like. peace.
American Pie was the first single I ever had as well. The only difference is that I was 6 years old and bought it in 1971/72 when the song first came out. it was a huge hit on the radio and I had to have it. I remember having to flip it over for side 2. Just like yours..
My first record as a 5 year old child was Cat Stevens, Teaser and the Firecat. I just purchased new vinyl, the Police Greatest Hits double LP eventhough I have 3 original Police albums. I ❤ their songs and thought it would be nice to have a compilation record to hear the hits. It's a beautiful album with so many great pictures on the inside and on the inner sleeves. I hope records will stay and CDs too.
Hey Dillon.. Interesting Video.. I Go Back To 1965, When My Love For Records Began.... It's Part of Our DNA... THE Thrill of The Hunt.. The Labels, The Excitement Of Finding Something Sorcial... "my Love for Garage/ Psych"....A life long Hobby!!!! Just Wish Prices Would Level off.... Every Point You Made Ring True for all of us... Thanks Buddy..... Peace Dan...
I love vinyl records. I've been collecting LPs, EPs, and 45s since I was in junior high and Abbey Road first came out. There, I just gave away my age. ;) Anyway, even so, I also have CDs, mostly because by the early 1990s the vinyl version of a release became hard to come by and partly--still true today--a few things are still more readily available or only available on CD. This is all to say, for me, though I LUV the vinyl format, the music does take priority. I sense that if vinyl prices continue to climb, there will be a backlash and the CD could become the primary format again or at lease a strong competitor. I've already started picking up some CD versions of new releases when I see the sticker price on the LP. I love LPs but I'm not going to go broke over them.
I have that same American Pie 45 with the same adapter. I think my family got that one when it was new since it has always been around, and I still have it to this day. That adapter looks like the metal adapter made by Webster Chicago, we had a bunch of those. They can be removed and installed on other records, but I would not recommend that to anyone now since you had to gently bend the disk just a bit to get them out and in. By now you would risk snapping the disk in half, so like you said, its in there for life.
Great video ... i've been collecting buying since early 90s .. started much earlier since early 80s as a pre-teen . It did die off in the 90s but thankfiully never really went away for me and lead me into becoming a DJ ...In fact as i had so much amazing music which was only released through vinyl and for dance community...,be it electronica, soul , hip hop , house ,techno, jazz funk etc .. Long live vinyl .
Hi Dillon, love the video. I am in Australia and I have never seen a Led Zepp Houses Of the Holy in that clue colored cover. I have an OG Australian pressing and it is the same gatefold as in the USA and UK on the Swan Song label. The cover may be a limited edition or a boot cover.
@@noblerecords Ok, I honestly have never seen it here at all and I have been selling and buying at record fairs since early 1980's and visiting record shops across Australia since 1973. I have been a Zepp fan since 1972. Since it is a cover I don't know I would have at least looked at it if it was in a Zepp bin in a store or fair. Proves one just can't know everything. Enjoy the music.
Noble & Records... I like your videos on Vinyl Records.... I've been collecting since 2012 been still collecting to Now... Love the sounds as well it crisp and sound better to me always than cd's.... Love Physical media.... long Live Records.... and long live music....
Very few will relate to this. I collected most of my vinyl in the 90s and I got amazing stuff for a buck or free. It just felt WRONG. It was great for my finances and I loved it, but people just giving away this primo stuff because it was " old-fashioned / out of style" felt wrong. I felt like " shouldn't I be giving you more money for this" Normally, I despise thrift stores and used stuff in general, theyre are always dirty and smell bad. I started going just for the primo vinyl. People throw away most items because theyre broken, damaged, dirty and not worth the clean time or got a newer one. The vinyl I was getting didn't fit any of those categories. They were just tossing them because they couldn't find the correct stylus for their cheap turntable( this was before you could look it up on the internet) and they just said screw the whole thing, I'm tossing everything-cds are the new thing anyway. Nowadays I feel the complete opposite, everything is so overpriced, way out of my price range and the quality is bad for the money. I still buy new stuff, but I'm so glad I don't have to pay $100 for a Metallica megaforce. Got both Megaforces for 1.99 wayyyyyy back. It's a double-edge sword, I love to see more people collecting, but how can you afford it?
You have some excellent points that I sort of alluded to in another comment thread. It's kind of ridiculous to think that just because some people are willing to pay obscene amounts of money for certain records that it's now the going price for a album. In a way discogs and eBay skewed the whole value of bartering for records. Just because some sucker over paid for a record now the rest of the data is skewed In the more expensive direction. I just think it becomes unreasonable because it's now a global market that is really competitive. I think it keeps many people from enjoying vintage copies of rare albums and it's unfortunate but at the same time atleast they can still hear the music online.
@@mercurialmagictrees if I find a copy of Del Amitri's 1995 Twisted vinyl, I will pay an obscene amount .lol. Most don't even know them, but it's a grail for me. I held out a few years ago, cause I thought $65 was way too much. Now it's about $200 plus. It's import-only and came out during vinyls absolute low point. I'm mostly referring to albums that were commonplace 10 years ago, that now cost a fortune - Ramones, Black Sabbath, the Clash, Depeche Mode, Motley Crue, Metallica. I got all those 20 years ago, buck a piece.
I started collecting vinyl in the early 60's it was the only media besides listening to the Radio. I was glad the 8 track came out because now you could listen to your favorite band in your car. than the cassette came out and it was even better, but all this time I still purchased vinyl. Then CD's came out and that was the end of my vinyl collecting , sold my records and started buying nothing but CD's. I started buying records again in around 2003 and now have almost 3000. I remember crate digging and finding great albums for around 5-10 dollars, now its hard to find used records that I like because so many people are buying records. When I go to my local record store most of the people are under 25, its good to see young people get into vinyl but with todays prices and the economy I don't know how they are going to afford it.
I hope it’s here to stay… I know it is for me. I bought records from the age of 5 or 6 until cds came along, and like a lot of people, I forgot how great vinyl is… 6 or 7 years ago I was moving some stuff around and came across my turntable… I hooked it back up and I’ve been hooked ever since. I’ll be buying vinyl as long as I’m buying music
I dont have a problem with Walmart records. I'm GLAD to see vinyl on retail stores again. I bought records from Sears and K Mart and Venture and Monygomery Ward, and even Ace Hardware in the 80s. The problem I have is paying $25-$35 for rock commons you can get for $6-$10 in a used store. They dont have any records under $20. But if ya want shit like Soundgarden or White Stripes you're most likely have to pay up. You won't ever find those for $8.
Really enjoyed the video my friend!! I think vinyl is going to be around a long time for the vinyl lovers the trend may die down...lol but the die hards will remain 🎸✌️
Dylan.. totally unrelated to this video I apologise, but what was the title of that Reggae Christmas album that you talked about many moths ago?? Trying to remember so I can search for a copy 😀
My first full-length LP record was Kiss 'Destroyer' soon after it was released. Yes, I still have it. Records died off in the early '90s because CD's replaced them in popularity. Cassettes continued selling because American carmakers continued installing cassette decks in cars up to around 2000. There probably won't ever be another new tangible music "format." Who knows where this is going. Music streaming won't end anytime soon. People stream music though their phone and/or watch and it's beyond convenient. Records are viewed today as collectibles. Records, cassettes, and CDs were how people got their music and they didn't view them as collectibles. As you say, there are more record collectors today than ever before. That's because collecting things and displaying them has become a craze over the last 20 years. People collecting action figures, cards, VHS tapes, superhero, pokemon, sports everything, etc... It's almost too overwhelming. Collecting and the nostalgia attached is huge. Record manufacturers market their vinyl as collectibles to meet that desire and price them accordingly.
I first started buying records and I really got into music about 1968/69. We didn't call psych music by that name. We called it stoner music or drug music. It was also the time I started smoking pot and doing lesser drugs. I had the best collection of stoner music than anyone around. My mom sold all my records when I was in the Navy. Today those records would be priceless.
I was a vinyl collector starting in the mid 60's but when the 90's came around we had "no choice" especially if you are looking for new music. I have reached the point where I have every format of music CDs, Reel to Reel tape, DAT tape, MP3, Flac files and to be honest at my age if given a blindfold test my ears might not tell the difference. I think that vinyl sounds best on a Analog system that's why I will never go back. OG record collectors and your generation has accepted vinyl. The question is will the generation behind you give it the same love.
Music - rock n roll music - that has the power to save the world, is engaged album by album, A side then B side. Chaperoned by album art, it is then personalized and owned, assimilated into the souls of humanity one listener at a time. There is no better way for the human machine to process this than by the vinyl medium. Then we gather like "several species of small furry animals... grooving" at our concerts in bars, clubs, arenas and sanctuaries - transcending so much human impasse - grooving to the common bond of some latest release, seemingly written personally for each of us in our times of need.
My pint of view is, the enthusiasts will never go away. Mainstream vinyl died maybe around ‘87-89, but some people held on. A Modern Marvels episode I saw from 2008 said the community was small, but there. Then, 2016 (my point of the revival) came along and it became “trendy” and mainstream. Now, as people realize solid equipment is needed, and records are commonly $15+, the interest is dying down. I’m a you get collector, and have some friends who are also into it, but there’s only 3 of us out of a good bunch in our group. I see the diehards always being there, and new people getting in, but I think mainstream j retest will fluctuate.
What do people think about WAV Digital? Wouldn't that technically outperform Hi-Fi Tape or Audiophile LPs? I thought that would be the most accessible highest quality?
Being 65, I have gone through all he various types of media and vinyl is still my go to. I can not tell the difference between vinyl and cd for most albums. I can spot cassette tape very quickly, always could. My opinion about streaming is it can vary, and this may sound strange but I don't like any more information just given to the Goggle Lords. I think the powers that be don't like vinyl, it's made from that evil evil oil. It's nice to have a room where you can go and relax and put on whatever your in the mood for without having some device suggest your next song. Whether it's George Jones, Mick Jones, or Grace Jones it's just you and them and whoever you invited. Can you dig?
The last 10 years a lot of people went back to vinyl, very logic cause a stereo vinyl let hear the complete recording with all its lows tones and high tones.A cd cuts off a lot of high tones and low tones. And a vinyl has a very nice sleeve and innersleeve; VINYL RULES! greetz from Jason from Belgium. P.S. I like Led Zeppelin also very much.I remember their debut album, that I hired on cd. I played it many times! I know some of their hit records but I must dive into their music. I will buy some Led Zeppelin next Sunday on a big record fair. I like also Black Sabbath very much. In February I found a live record of Black Sabbath, live in Brussels 1970. A very nice record!
I was a collector long before the vinyl resurgence and I probably will be all my life, but the studios could cripple this, you know. We’ve seen it done time and time before with other products. It would not hurt my feelings if it dies down a little bit. But I do enjoy how much easier it is to get stuff than it was. But if prices continue to rise, I won’t have any choice but to search for more used stuff.
I don't think it will die but it could certainly shrink in market size. I think part of the boom is simply a generational shift that won't go away. If you watch Antiques Roadshow these days you'll notice that "traditional" antiques have lost a lot of their value while a Gibson Les Paul can be a retirement fund. I think the interest in vinyl and it's increased value are part of a similar trend. We are the right generation at the right age and with a little disposable income to continue to drive the market.
we were young and everyone had between 5 and 20 vinyls at home and we discovered each visit to a friend's house. or in a girl. we learned while having fun. lots of fun memories. another time when money had another flavor. few means but a lot of sharing…
In the 80s as a teen when I bought a record I'd often no idea what they sounded like. Plenty I just liked the cover. There is some vinyl I like the sound better than cd and some I like the cd but vinyl tends to win most times.
I think the general overall interest might wane a little, but the wake up call that we need to preserve this stuff has happened. A lot of things that were discarded or could be had cheap back in the day, are starting to be very expensive. This is true if a lot of vintage stuff like classic cars, mid century furniture etc etc. try finding a vintage skateboard deck for less than $300. Many go for over $1,000 - they used to be trash. I’m glad I started my collection a long time ago.
The one thing that worries me is the extreme pressing variants for newer stuff, it's basically the same problem that comic books had in the early 90s with death of superman and all that stuff where everyone bought new #1 issues and "collector" variants but the huge printings of them just made it all basically worthless. I fear the same thing could happen with like the 15 Adele or Paul McCartney color variants where people get into the hobby with the idea that they are buying something collectable when it's really just artificially pumped up numbers that won't hold value...
Maybe buy vinyl for the right reason. To actually play it. One copy is enough (whatever colour, pressing etc) It seems a huge part of vinyl buyers are just goodie collectors and all talking about value and limited edition only. Its about the format, the music and the fun to play it (for your own pleasure) Not to get it on discogs asap and asking ridiculous prices
That Australian House Of Holy pressing is weird. That photo is the Inner Gatefold and looks like you have it inside-out. More like a misprint or mis-fold.
I have always been a media collector, mostly CDs. I now collect CDs and LPs. I grew up with knowing the flaws of LPs and always avoided them and started with Cassette and then CDs. I am new to streaming and found that it's a great tool for finding new music. I used to download MP3s (illegally) to find music I wanted and then buy it if I liked it. Now I can look it up in Spotify and then decide whether or not to buy. LPs do not sound better than a well mastered CD. I think this is the placebo effect. If I put on a classic album like Pink Floyds Piper at the Gates of Dawn on CD, I think there is something wrong with it. Its a CD, it should sound much better my brain tells me. I put the original 67 LP on and it sounds fine. I compare them back to back and they sound the same, however my mind just accepts that its an old recording and it is what it is on LP. But the CD should sound better when in reality it should and does sound the same. When ever I put on a great sounding LP it seems to blow me away. I listen to a lot of sythwave on LP and it sounds awesome but not better than the streaming or CD copies I have.
In the UK we have equity release ads on TV with boring things they’d spend their money on. My fantasy ad would be a male or female saying “I own a used record store, and my house helped to pay for it.”
What a great story telling video. I love records for those reasons that you mentioned. Went I was growing up never like jazz music but now there is some jazz artists that I love because how wonderful they sound on the format of Vinyl. In the same way I don’t like everything on vinyl some artist music sounds great on cd or digital and the vinyl sucks. Therefore my music collection has evolved is a mix of cassette, cds and vinyl. My niche now on getting record if it is in a good condition and sound great for me I will keep it.
Really surprised that Atlantic would release Zep's Houses of The Holy on ATCO in Brazil since Page was so dead set against any of the band's albums appearing on that label.
All I gotta say is, there’s a REASON why people who collect vinyl and specifically vinyl swear by it as the best way to listen to music. There’s a whole plethora of communities but the vinyl community is the most passionate, for a reason.
Arguably, DJs kept vinyl alive through the '90s and '00s when everyone else bought CDs. Now, most people use streaming services and DJs generally use digital files. As for vinyl, I think there will always be hardcore collectors of it, but I think its popularity will fade with the general public because kids these days are more into video games than music.
I'm trying to find out what is the original pressing of the Kak lp. Does a pressing exist with a pasted on rear cover ? Or have they always been just one piece ? Help if you can. Thanks
Vinyl is more compressed; you have to compress to master to vinyl; you don't have to compress to master a cd. The Robert Ludwig Led Zeppelin II is a compressed hot mix. I don't think folks completely understand compression and believe it's "chopping off the highs and lows". It's more an emphasis of the midrange with the music moved up into the mix. There are different techniques used to compress. Rudy Van Gelder had his own method and equipment employed on the "original Bluenotes." You also have the option of compressing each instrument vs the entire mix.
Ive been buying records since the 50's. I still have 95% of all te records I've ever purchased. The only thing that stops me from purchasing all my music that way is $.
It’s not that I didn’t want them back in the 90’s. It’s just that stores quit stocking them . They chose to carry cds and cassette only . Musicland or places like that in malls just had limited space so they went with the latest technology at the time. I do think the inflation will have a effect on sales also for new releases
I don’t think vinyl will die. Theres several pressing plants in full swing. It would be nice if more plants opened up. Personally, I’d like to see the prices come down.
I think the prices will come down. Hope so! Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@noblerecords Universal just increased it's list price on catalog and new titles (up to $10 for a single title).
It was like cds are today. There always has been a niche for titles that still have an audience. Early presses will still be valuable but lesser quality ones will not like Bluenote 75. Today common 45's where the song is available on album isn't very valuable especially if the 45 is styrene.
In the Netherland, new vinyl albums had an average price from 1969 up to 1995 eight Euro then. The equivalent from 8 Euro at present is 55,-- Euro! Lately I purchased an album Cigarettes after sex, 180 grams, payed 27 Euro. Conclusion, vinyl is not expensive.
If I had to explain vinyl records to someone I would show this video, I couldn't do any better. This was an heartwarming journey into music appreciation in the finest way possible, your/our work is done!
Hey thanks so much mark!
I hope it gets back to the point where vinyl isn't 30-40+ for average albums. It's frustrating to go online and want an album, just to see the cheapest discogs listing run 90 bucks especially when it wasn't even an uncommon pressing.
On a different note, the reason why i've stuck with vinyl is that it's got me to broaden my music taste. Everyone I know primarily listens to new music but i've been able to discover a lot of awesome psych stuff and other music I wouldnt have found had I gone through streaming. Also the sound is much better imho on a good vinyl pressing than other formats.
I agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Yeah, these are the negative things that come with the hype, a lot of stuff is really overpriced these days. The most positive thing is that a lot of oop stuff gets pressed again. Maybe not so good for owners of the original pressings, since they will be harder to sell for high prices. But for people who missed a record in the past or weren't collecting that early it is nice. I guess sooner or later that big hype will slow down again.
I hear ya. I've been selling LP's in West Lebanon NH for some time & I have not marked them up so high. One seller insists on selling lets say, 'Meet The Beatles' in VG++ shape for $50. I sell them for $26- 30. Some folks are just greedy and some are realistic
Keep rockin'
In regards to $30-40 per album if you look at the dollar value back to when many of us bought vinyl in the 70s the cost is about the same.
A 1978 average $7.99 record would on be equal to $35+ today based on inflation.
It’s crazy but true.
@@MD-wk3gj Actually, fair point.
Another great video Dillon. One of my favorite parts of having a vinyl collection is the intention and experience of putting time aside to sit down and listen to at least a side of an album. Its slowing down and taking time. Its experiencing the nuance in new songs on an album that maybe I didn't give the time to in the past. Its nostalgic and it touches the soul. Vinyl will always be part of my life no matter no matter what happens in the mainstream.
Me too! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Down here in New Zealand we have a decent supply of vinyl and there's plenty of good shops with huge selections, but damn near every video you put out has several things I've never even heard of let alone have any chance of finding locally. You've literally been programming my spotify for a couple of years now with all the new stuff you've introduced me to and man oh man... the spotify recommendations algorithm just doesn't know what to do with me any more. I just got The Dead Kennedys followed by a piece by Bartok. I approve of this situation, and I thank you.
Same mine is filled with albums I’ve heard of from This channel and RUclips algorithm Dillon me up with rare records
I don't want it to die off, but I do want the interest and demand to calm. I just read today that prices are going up again from many labels. They are over priced already and used are almost impossible to find what I want. I think ~2013 levels would be ideal.
I do think it’ll level out
12:40 I honestly marvel at that fact. It's so cool to think that collecting rare vinyl is like treasure hunting art/music. I think that is a major part to why it is so rewarding.
There are so many variables to this hobby that make it special. Certain ones are more significant to some people and I think that's what's so great about it. There so many choices and it becomes such a unique experience.
I agree! Thanks so much!
I hope mainstream ones do. Waiting 13 months for a preorder rn...
Yikes
Brotha, I love your love of vinyl! Found your channel by accident like 2 weeks ago and I gotta say I love your videos. I've been a collector and DJ since 15yrs old, 26yrs later and I still love vinyl as much as I did then. The tangible feel of vinyl hits different than all other media and nothing replaces the experience of diggin' for it. Much love, keep on truckin' and keep on collecting.
Thanks man!!!! That means a lot!
Got a copy of The Lamb Lies Down in the $3 bin w/ a rough jacket but very clean vinyl.
What we live for🙂
I’m getting back into it now in my 40s cause I have the time and money. i used to ride my bike to the local record store and get the coolest album I could find after saving change for weeks from everyone. Lol. I didn’t realize how much I missed the process of listening to it this way. It’s nice to have a high quality streaming service, but there’s nothing that compares to vinyl, imo.
I agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
"Coming of age" in the mid/late '60s/early '70s, I was in musical utopia. Discovering "my" music was a real journey. I had a sibling in retail and continuously was bringing home music related magazines . Rolling Stone, Creem, Circus, NME, etc. I stayed in music shops looking at records and talking to anyone that I could about my passion. Being young, I had very little cash to blow on LPs and 45s. But it drove me crazy reading about things I couldn't acquire. Bought what I could, and lusted for the rest. Got my drivers license and it was tons of 8-tracks.
Another great benifit of reading, I could see the influences of my favorites. Rolling Stones lead me to Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters, that lead me to Robert Johnson and Ledbelly. Or the Byrds leading me to the Louvin Brothers, Hank Williams or whomever.
Now that I can afford it and we have the innerwebs, I've found myself compiling a small library of grails, not for collecting, but listening. Making up for lost time. It's a pretty cool rabbit hole to tumble down!
There are tons of rabbit holes! The fun never ends!
I hope so. Can’t nobody afford this shit!
🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been collecting for about 3 or 4 years now and I can’t see myself stopping. There’s a magic about it that I just can’t shake.
I feel the same way. I started collecting in early 2018 and there was such a euphoric feeling going to a local shop with friends to buy my first record player. (Garrard gt25ap belt drive from 1979) I got home and hooked it up to my 1995 stereo system and played Abbey Road(first U.S) on vinyl for the first time and it was shocked on good it sounded.
I was used to hearing it on my CD player and ipod + smart phone but the unique qualities of hearing an original recording was beautiful. After that I immediately sought out original records of my favorite albums. I knew my time was limited to get them for a reasonable price because I could tell the major resurgence was well under way. I am glad I bought the albums I did back then.
I’m with you! Started as a kid and never been able to stop.
Rikki Ililonga - Hot Fingers! What a track! Acid heads everywhere will love this. Cheers Dillon :)
I hope it doesn’t die out, it’s more than the listening experience. It’s the artistry that goes into vinyl that you don’t see with other forms of media. Think Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers, Velvet Underground, etc. it’s about the total experience that I love
Yes! Totally agree!
I know EXACTLY what you mean about the thrill of the hunt, and the great feeling of a rare find. I started collecting records in the early 2000s. I remember trying to seek out the Beatles Hollywood Bowl LP. This was before that album was released on CD so vinyl or cassette were my only options of buying it at the time. As I recall, my dad and I were on vacation and we stumbled into this great used record store and I found the Beatles section and wouldn't you know, the first record I saw there was the Hollywood Bowl LP. Even my dad was taken back by my reaction. My jaw dropped and I just kept pointing and staring at it, and was almost screaming like a little kid, "Dad, buy me this record!" My reaction would almost make you think I was at the concert myself back in 1964! But there's just that feeling for a collector, as you said, to find something in person that they really want. I will always remember that moment. Vinyl will never go out of style for me.
As a side note, I rebought the Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl on CD when it was rereleased digitally. While still good, somehow it lost some of its warmth, some of its charm. Vinyl is something special.
Absolutely Dylan. That’s a great point! Vinyl was how we had to listen in the 60s to the 80s but now, people are choosing to listen to music on vinyl. Even though there’s easier and cheaper alternatives. And the numbers are increasing, despite the costs. All ages. It’s an incredible time - and for life!
I appreciate your passion for vinyl. After you mentioned the Louvin Brothers in a past video I started looking for their records in Thrift stores. Recently, I found two in one store but it was disappointing because their condition was so bad I could not bring myself to buy them. Just over a week ago I had one of those I-can't-believe-I-found-it moments when I came across "The Family Who Prays" in very good condition. This was months after seeing your video reference. Thank you for introducing me to an artist I otherwise would not have known about.
I’m older than you but my experience echoes yours - I got my first records from my Mom (Ray Charles “What’d I Say”) and the thrift store. I worked in a record store as a teen; hung out there until they gave me something to do and they paid me in records. I went in wanting punk rock records and got schooled by the owner and employees about all kinds of music that I came to love. When I went away to college, I spent $5 a week at a used bookstore on records back when $5 usually got me two records or one I coveted (I skipped a few meals to spend $10 on a Television “Marquee Moon” promo copy). Then I stopped buying records as life brought new interests and challenges. Music was still a primary passion but it was all CDs or digital files, and my records sat safely stored away. Five years ago, my wife bought me a new vintage turntable I had wanted since I was a teen and said there was a used bookstore near her work that sold records, too. I walked out with Curtis Mayfield’s Roots album - she’s regretted that comment ever since. Playing records is a wonderful ritual I share with my kids (my seven year old loves his Stan Getz lps). I think the number of collectors may wax and wane but the passion and thrill of the hunt is just as addictive and enjoyable as it ever was. Even more so. Keep up the good work and keep spreading good music, community, and the promise of the next discovery!
Thanks so much!
When it comes to the love for vinyl records, you are the man to listen. Greetings from Sweden!
I've had vinyl since the 60's. Collected music I want and like. There will always be used vinyl available and I will continue to buy it.
Awesome! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Love this video. It would be so cool talking to you about records in a bar. I agree with everything you said and for me a record is the thing! It's the first original format that the music was on. So it's the original...an actual possession. It has to be kept. I never got rid of my vinyl records when CDs became the thing. CDs were just convinent and sounded great...like MP3s...but not the actual thing, the real deal. For this reason records will be here for ever.
Thanks so much! I agree!
Hi Dillon: 😀👍. Wonderful video! My vinyl is the nostalgic, the unusual, the classy and the unforgettable. My beloved CDs are typically three of these four. With 75 years of LPs, there is fantastic music to be found on vinyl. This 1950s looking cat with horn-rimmed glasses stared out me, mouth open, hovering over a set of bongos on an album cover. I could not resist it. The record was Cal Tjader ("Mambo With Tjader"). I became hooked on all manner of Latin Jazz. Today, my Sunshine State environment glows with it. Vinyl uniquely shines with the unusual. Rock Always! - Heather
Awesome! Thanks for watching heather!
“Yeah… that ones coming home with me” - love that feeling. Especially when you don’t know the record.
The only reason I hope record buying mellows is so prices come down. Maybe I could buy some collections and I can feed my sickness.
It started for me with my mom's 45's of The Beatles, which I still have. I own things now that I never thought I would own. Also as you said, it's the hunt ... I love the hunt. 😁
I hear that!
I'm listening to 13 Floor Elevators in the background because I know you love it. I grew up with vinyl. It's in my DNA. I'm very happy my 22 year-old daughter is now listening to and buying vinyl. I love record labels. They give records a certain distinctiveness. Even if our energy is rationed in the future, that will just make listening to records even more special.
I can not believe what I’ve just seen. Someone else has American Pie as their very first record. I’ve had my copy now since I was six years old and I’ve still got it. It’s pretty much worn out now but I’ll never get rid of it 😎
A record store owner here in my town said they won't die off, but the rise in cost for records are deterring a lot of newer collectors. The people that have been in it for a long time will stick around.
Great point!
Yeah but he owns a shop, doesn't want it to die off
I grew up in the 60’s, and 70’s so records were it for me. I still have most of my original records, and did stop buying for about 8 to 10 years, during the vinyl drought. Now 98% of my record purchases are strictly MFSL, Analog Productions, or Speakers Corner, audiophile type labels. I have 4 of the Classic Record Zepp records, and wish I had purchased the entire set, or that Road Case, box set for $799 back in the day. Anyway, I enjoyed your video.
Speaking of covers drawing you in. You are right. That's happened so many times for me. Sometimes the cover was the best part of the album and I just couldn't get into the music but most of the time it introduced me to something that I really got into. One in particular was Manfred Manns Earth Band - Angel Station. I heard of Manfred Mann but nothing off this album. Its now definitely up there as one of my regularly listened to albums, from seeing it as someone's vinyl to owning a worn out 8-track as a kid to now owning my own copy of an original vinyl pressing. The cover art is just so awesome.
The prices are killing it. I've switched to cds
Bought my first peice in 1966..its been up and down..stay the ship !! We will continue..there is about 25,000 Lps in my collection..loved every minute of collecting..I've tried to quit..but alas I'm a music ad vinyl records lover!! Dillon you're the best!! Great analysis and commentary..
Wow that’s amazing!
@@noblerecords oh yeah your collection is killer!! I've watched you and subscribed a long time ago..noble records all the way!! Great work
I've made this comment many times .... but Vinyl unfortunately is being looked at as an investment by most collectors . People are hoarding records , buying multiple copies , not unsealing them etc.. When this happens it creates a bubble of re-sellers which will eventually flood the market at some point that will eventually burst . Recent example was 2022 record store day , I purchased 3 box sets and the AIC album . All have been opened and listened to " well almost listened to as some of the sets have 5+ records " . My point is that I've seen hundreds if not over a thousand at this point of the records I bought that day for sale on Ebay and Discogs in the past month as I check every other day or so , these are just the quick resells as others will wait a year or so . I'd wager 1/3 of people on RSD in line with me were just flippers .
This reminds me of the Comic Book and Sports card crash of the 90's when people were doing the same thing " minus ebay of course " . The reason why the old comics and sports cards became collectible is because people originally bought them for enjoyment and not to "keep them in mint shape " to resell them as an investment making them a rare commodity . When new cards and comics become dime a dozen and overpriced people stop becoming interested so they stop buying . The only hope for Vinyl is that it's a different commodity that has a purpose other than just staring at it ......but what do I know really 😉
This economic mess we are in will also hamper sales at some point as people need food and gas more than a $35 new release record . The prices will also keep going up as inflation is out of control as well and vinyl in itself being a petroleum based product doesn't help .
Comic Book and sports cards stores used to be a common site when I was a Kid , they are pretty much gone , I'd feel bad for all the vinyl shops if this crash happened .
We will see! I hope not 🤣
@@noblerecords Me to !
You could have gone back to COIN Collections and were my 1st clue to economics based on a feeling of value and not based on function and purpose ownership.
..... You're right that this hording will affect growth and shake out many who can't compete looking for albums they want to play.
.... But honestly without a MUSIC STAR (instead of Video Stars) the LP will still reach a tipping point simply because the cost of ownership usually requires a place that can be used while enjoying the Entertainment.
...... That kind of Music is not heard much because to pay for living the life you compromise and soon the MUSIC is a SLAVE to the pyrotechnics steal from the art.
Blah blah blah, whatever man.
@@Labor_Jones Definitely not many coin collecting shops around these days as well . Coin collecting was a fun hobby as silver coins could still be found regularly in circulation well into the 80's . Even as a kid I remember all the silver quarters and dollars that were still in circulation . It's now a rich man's hobby for the most part.
We weren’t just “mesmerised by the technology of CDs” in a lot of cases, especially for smaller local bands, CDs became the only format, lots of bands that were just bands playing in pubs etc & weren’t loaded could only choose to put out maybe one format & CDs became the favourite due to the “temper of the times” so to speak
I really hope that cd (and digital in general ) mastering will improve and and that this damn LOUDNESS WAR will come to an end !!!
Back in 2003 I was only buying my first vinyl record because the then re-master on the cd of that album sounded like shite !!
there would be no reason to buy vinyl if cd's were mastered properly again !
I listen to mostly older music that was made in released before 1982, and I always wanted ( and want !) to hear the original sound of an album, therefore I had to buy vinyl !
But the prices for vinyl recently freak me out !!
and for the artwork: It is easily to include (somehow) a digital HD picture of the artwork that you can see on your screen.
Again: the prices for vinyl recently freak me out !!
Everything is getting expensive 😭
The other problem is CD's have a cut-off at 20Khz and vinyl records can go up into the 50Khz range and YES, even if your hearing test said you can only hear to 16,000Hz, you can still feel or sense harmonics in music (Not sinewave test tones), that go up into the high 25,000 Hz range). There has been studies that prove it. It has something to do with your bones and other body parts detecting harmonics your eardrums cannot detect on their own.
@@AudioGuyBrian Oh wow that's fascinating. I was not aware of the effects of sound on different structures. As corny as it sounds I too tend to feel the music differently when it come to analog media. Maybe I'm just imagining it but when I listen to records or tapes It just feels a bit more natural and authentic to me.
Actually, the price of Records is very much perceived to be much more expensive today, compared to say the 1970's.
But, actually, if you factor in inflation, wage increases, etc., paying [on average] between €20/$20/£20 to €30/$30/£30 for a new Vinyl Record release today compared to the 1970's there really isn't a significant difference.
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@@AudioGuyBrian the sampling frequency of compact discs is 44.1 kHz, that means the playback frequency ( that you hear) is 22.05 kHz. A human can hear from 20 Hz-20 kHz at very best. vinyl records have a standard frequency range up to 23,5 kHz and everything above that is lower in volume so that you can fit 20-30 min of music on a one vinyl side. beside that all very low frequencies up to 40 Hz are mono on a vinyl record.
I have heard that you can even put frequencies up to 100 kHz on a vinyl record, but then you could only put some minutes on each side and not 20-30 min. Also the dynamic range of a vinyl record is only about 60 db while a compact disc can have 96 db, but the loudness war mastering of cd's (where the dynamic range is totally compressed..) makes you think that it is the other way around^ anyway, enjoy the music you like on the medium you like. peace.
American Pie was the first single I ever had as well. The only difference is that I was 6 years old and bought it in 1971/72 when the song first came out. it was a huge hit on the radio and I had to have it. I remember having to flip it over for side 2. Just like yours..
My first record as a 5 year old child was Cat Stevens, Teaser and the Firecat. I just purchased new vinyl, the Police Greatest Hits double LP eventhough I have 3 original Police albums. I ❤ their songs and thought it would be nice to have a compilation record to hear the hits. It's a beautiful album with so many great pictures on the inside and on the inner sleeves. I hope records will stay and CDs too.
I think so! Hope so!
Hey Dillon.. Interesting Video.. I Go Back To 1965, When My Love For Records Began.... It's Part of Our DNA... THE Thrill of The Hunt.. The Labels, The Excitement Of Finding Something Sorcial... "my Love for Garage/ Psych"....A life long Hobby!!!! Just Wish Prices Would Level off.... Every Point You Made Ring True for all of us... Thanks Buddy..... Peace Dan...
I love vinyl records. I've been collecting LPs, EPs, and 45s since I was in junior high and Abbey Road first came out. There, I just gave away my age. ;) Anyway, even so, I also have CDs, mostly because by the early 1990s the vinyl version of a release became hard to come by and partly--still true today--a few things are still more readily available or only available on CD. This is all to say, for me, though I LUV the vinyl format, the music does take priority. I sense that if vinyl prices continue to climb, there will be a backlash and the CD could become the primary format again or at lease a strong competitor. I've already started picking up some CD versions of new releases when I see the sticker price on the LP. I love LPs but I'm not going to go broke over them.
I hear ya! I don’t see CDs coming back. For lots of reasons, but I’m bias I guess. Thanks for watching! 🙏
I have that same American Pie 45 with the same adapter. I think my family got that one when it was new since it has always been around, and I still have it to this day. That adapter looks like the metal adapter made by Webster Chicago, we had a bunch of those. They can be removed and installed on other records, but I would not recommend that to anyone now since you had to gently bend the disk just a bit to get them out and in. By now you would risk snapping the disk in half, so like you said, its in there for life.
You should definitely do a video about Zam rock! I'm super intrigued!
Great video ... i've been collecting buying since early 90s .. started much earlier since early 80s as a pre-teen . It did die off in the 90s but thankfiully never really went away for me and lead me into becoming a DJ ...In fact as i had so much amazing music which was only released through vinyl and for dance community...,be it electronica, soul , hip hop , house ,techno, jazz funk etc .. Long live vinyl .
I enjoy it all, records, CDs, and streaming. They all have their place. I buy physical media because I want to own it.
Hi Dillon, love the video. I am in Australia and I have never seen a Led Zepp Houses Of the Holy in that clue colored cover. I have an OG Australian pressing and it is the same gatefold as in the USA and UK on the Swan Song label. The cover may be a limited edition or a boot cover.
It’s not a bootleg. Here’s the discogs entry…
www.discogs.com/release/5681875-Led-Zeppelin-Houses-Of-The-Holy
@@noblerecords Ok, I honestly have never seen it here at all and I have been selling and buying at record fairs since early 1980's and visiting record shops across Australia since 1973. I have been a Zepp fan since 1972. Since it is a cover I don't know I would have at least looked at it if it was in a Zepp bin in a store or fair. Proves one just can't know everything. Enjoy the music.
Noble & Records... I like your videos on Vinyl Records.... I've been collecting since 2012 been still collecting to Now... Love the sounds as well it crisp and sound better to me always than cd's.... Love Physical media.... long Live Records.... and long live music....
Very few will relate to this. I collected most of my vinyl in the 90s and I got amazing stuff for a buck or free. It just felt WRONG. It was great for my finances and I loved it, but people just giving away this primo stuff because it was " old-fashioned / out of style" felt wrong. I felt like " shouldn't I be giving you more money for this" Normally, I despise thrift stores and used stuff in general, theyre are always dirty and smell bad. I started going just for the primo vinyl. People throw away most items because theyre broken, damaged, dirty and not worth the clean time or got a newer one. The vinyl I was getting didn't fit any of those categories. They were just tossing them because they couldn't find the correct stylus for their cheap turntable( this was before you could look it up on the internet) and they just said screw the whole thing, I'm tossing everything-cds are the new thing anyway. Nowadays I feel the complete opposite, everything is so overpriced, way out of my price range and the quality is bad for the money. I still buy new stuff, but I'm so glad I don't have to pay $100 for a Metallica megaforce. Got both Megaforces for 1.99 wayyyyyy back. It's a double-edge sword, I love to see more people collecting, but how can you afford it?
You have some excellent points that I sort of alluded to in another comment thread. It's kind of ridiculous to think that just because some people are willing to pay obscene amounts of money for certain records that it's now the going price for a album.
In a way discogs and eBay skewed the whole value of bartering for records.
Just because some sucker over paid for a record now the rest of the data is skewed In the more expensive direction.
I just think it becomes unreasonable because it's now a global market that is really competitive.
I think it keeps many people from enjoying vintage copies of rare albums and it's unfortunate but at the same time atleast they can still hear the music online.
@@mercurialmagictrees if I find a copy of Del Amitri's 1995 Twisted vinyl, I will pay an obscene amount .lol. Most don't even know them, but it's a grail for me. I held out a few years ago, cause I thought $65 was way too much. Now it's about $200 plus. It's import-only and came out during vinyls absolute low point. I'm mostly referring to albums that were commonplace 10 years ago, that now cost a fortune - Ramones, Black Sabbath, the Clash, Depeche Mode, Motley Crue, Metallica. I got all those 20 years ago, buck a piece.
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I've surprisingly discovered more music though collecting vinyl vs Spotify. The wild thymes release from the in groove is so awesome.
It is!!! Mike did an excellent job with that!
Love your channel and your explanation here on why vinyl is great!!
Thanks so much!
I started collecting vinyl in the early 60's it was the only media besides listening to the Radio. I was glad the 8 track came out because now you could listen to your favorite band in your car. than the cassette came out and it was even better, but all this time I still purchased vinyl. Then CD's came out and that was the end of my vinyl collecting , sold my records and started buying nothing but CD's. I started buying records again in around 2003 and now have almost 3000. I remember crate digging and finding great albums for around 5-10 dollars, now its hard to find used records that I like because so many people are buying records. When I go to my local record store most of the people are under 25, its good to see young people get into vinyl but with todays prices and the economy I don't know how they are going to afford it.
I hope it’s here to stay… I know it is for me. I bought records from the age of 5 or 6 until cds came along, and like a lot of people, I forgot how great vinyl is… 6 or 7 years ago I was moving some stuff around and came across my turntable… I hooked it back up and I’ve been hooked ever since. I’ll be buying vinyl as long as I’m buying music
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I dont have a problem with Walmart records. I'm GLAD to see vinyl on retail stores again. I bought records from Sears and K Mart and Venture and Monygomery Ward, and even Ace Hardware in the 80s.
The problem I have is paying $25-$35 for rock commons you can get for $6-$10 in a used store.
They dont have any records under $20.
But if ya want shit like Soundgarden or White Stripes you're most likely have to pay up. You won't ever find those for $8.
Yeah I wish stuff wasn’t cheap again too.
Really enjoyed the video my friend!! I think vinyl is going to be around a long time for the vinyl lovers the trend may die down...lol but the die hards will remain 🎸✌️
That’s Rod!
Not in my house. I never stopped buying, particularly local artists that put out both. Usually there’s a digital download with it.
Me too!
Dylan.. totally unrelated to this video I apologise, but what was the title of that Reggae Christmas album that you talked about many moths ago?? Trying to remember so I can search for a copy 😀
My first full-length LP record was Kiss 'Destroyer' soon after it was released. Yes, I still have it. Records died off in the early '90s because CD's replaced them in popularity. Cassettes continued selling because American carmakers continued installing cassette decks in cars up to around 2000. There probably won't ever be another new tangible music "format." Who knows where this is going. Music streaming won't end anytime soon. People stream music though their phone and/or watch and it's beyond convenient. Records are viewed today as collectibles. Records, cassettes, and CDs were how people got their music and they didn't view them as collectibles. As you say, there are more record collectors today than ever before. That's because collecting things and displaying them has become a craze over the last 20 years. People collecting action figures, cards, VHS tapes, superhero, pokemon, sports everything, etc... It's almost too overwhelming. Collecting and the nostalgia attached is huge. Record manufacturers market their vinyl as collectibles to meet that desire and price them accordingly.
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I first started buying records and I really got into music about 1968/69. We didn't call psych music by that name. We called it stoner music or drug music. It was also the time I started smoking pot and doing lesser drugs. I had the best collection of stoner music than anyone around. My mom sold all my records when I was in the Navy. Today those records would be priceless.
I was a vinyl collector starting in the mid 60's but when the 90's came around we had "no choice" especially if you are looking for new music. I have reached the point where I have every format of music CDs, Reel to Reel tape, DAT tape, MP3, Flac files and to be honest at my age if given a blindfold test my ears might not tell the difference. I think that vinyl sounds best on a Analog system that's why I will never go back. OG record collectors and your generation has accepted vinyl. The question is will the generation behind you give it the same love.
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Have you uploaded the 'African Rock' album on the submission page of Discogs, Dillon? It's always nice to get those obscurities out there.
I need to!
This was one of your best videos. Well done!!!
Thanks Greg!
Music - rock n roll music - that has the power to save the world, is engaged album by album, A side then B side. Chaperoned by album art, it is then personalized and owned, assimilated into the souls of humanity one listener at a time. There is no better way for the human machine to process this than by the vinyl medium.
Then we gather like "several species of small furry animals... grooving" at our concerts in bars, clubs, arenas and sanctuaries - transcending so much human impasse - grooving to the common bond of some latest release, seemingly written personally for each of us in our times of need.
In my opinion, vinyl is pretty much still around. It will never die.
Found a copy of that African Rock lp for sale onliine, but sadly it was sold. The dealer was kind enough to provide a download, though.
seeing some insane prices for vinyl recently I hope so !!^
So I can be happy again with my hobby^^
We will see
My pint of view is, the enthusiasts will never go away. Mainstream vinyl died maybe around ‘87-89, but some people held on. A Modern Marvels episode I saw from 2008 said the community was small, but there. Then, 2016 (my point of the revival) came along and it became “trendy” and mainstream. Now, as people realize solid equipment is needed, and records are commonly $15+, the interest is dying down. I’m a you get collector, and have some friends who are also into it, but there’s only 3 of us out of a good bunch in our group. I see the diehards always being there, and new people getting in, but I think mainstream j retest will fluctuate.
What do people think about WAV Digital? Wouldn't that technically outperform Hi-Fi Tape or Audiophile LPs? I thought that would be the most accessible highest quality?
Being 65, I have gone through all he various types of media and vinyl is still my go to. I can not tell the difference between vinyl and cd for most albums. I can spot cassette tape very quickly, always could. My opinion about streaming is it can vary, and this may sound strange but I don't like any more information just given to the Goggle Lords. I think the powers that be don't like vinyl, it's made from that evil evil oil. It's nice to have a room where you can go and relax and put on whatever your in the mood for without having some device suggest your next song. Whether it's George Jones, Mick Jones, or Grace Jones it's just you and them and whoever you invited. Can you dig?
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Our first record is a great topic !....Let it Be ...my first album ,and Footstompen Music ...Grand Funk Railroad ,my first 45
Yeah I had an embarrassing first few records
The last 10 years a lot of people went back to vinyl, very logic cause a stereo vinyl let hear the complete recording with all its lows tones and high tones.A cd cuts off a lot of high tones and low tones. And a vinyl has a very nice sleeve and innersleeve; VINYL RULES! greetz from Jason from Belgium. P.S. I like Led Zeppelin also very much.I remember their debut album, that I hired on cd. I played it many times! I know some of their hit records but I must dive into their music. I will buy some Led Zeppelin next Sunday on a big record fair. I like also Black Sabbath very much. In February I found a live record of Black Sabbath, live in Brussels 1970. A very nice record!
I was a collector long before the vinyl resurgence and I probably will be all my life, but the studios could cripple this, you know. We’ve seen it done time and time before with other products. It would not hurt my feelings if it dies down a little bit. But I do enjoy how much easier it is to get stuff than it was. But if prices continue to rise, I won’t have any choice but to search for more used stuff.
There will be more and more used. Lots to choose from in the future
Vinyl is here to stay, never bail on music,
There were still lots of shops selling second hand vinyl in the nineties, in Melbourne anyway.
There Weren’t many here but a few.
I don't think it will die but it could certainly shrink in market size. I think part of the boom is simply a generational shift that won't go away. If you watch Antiques Roadshow these days you'll notice that "traditional" antiques have lost a lot of their value while a Gibson Les Paul can be a retirement fund. I think the interest in vinyl and it's increased value are part of a similar trend. We are the right generation at the right age and with a little disposable income to continue to drive the market.
we were young and everyone had between 5 and 20 vinyls at home and we discovered each visit to a friend's house. or in a girl. we learned while having fun. lots of fun memories. another time when money had another flavor. few means but a lot of sharing…
In the 80s as a teen when I bought a record I'd often no idea what they sounded like. Plenty I just liked the cover. There is some vinyl I like the sound better than cd and some I like the cd but vinyl tends to win most times.
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I think the general overall interest might wane a little, but the wake up call that we need to preserve this stuff has happened. A lot of things that were discarded or could be had cheap back in the day, are starting to be very expensive. This is true if a lot of vintage stuff like classic cars, mid century furniture etc etc. try finding a vintage skateboard deck for less than $300. Many go for over $1,000 - they used to be trash. I’m glad I started my collection a long time ago.
Most of my vinyl I purchased in the early 90s prices were great! Besides CDs died and aren’t coming back so there you go
The one thing that worries me is the extreme pressing variants for newer stuff, it's basically the same problem that comic books had in the early 90s with death of superman and all that stuff where everyone bought new #1 issues and "collector" variants but the huge printings of them just made it all basically worthless. I fear the same thing could happen with like the 15 Adele or Paul McCartney color variants where people get into the hobby with the idea that they are buying something collectable when it's really just artificially pumped up numbers that won't hold value...
Maybe buy vinyl for the right reason. To actually play it. One copy is enough (whatever colour, pressing etc) It seems a huge part of vinyl buyers are just goodie collectors and all talking about value and limited edition only. Its about the format, the music and the fun to play it (for your own pleasure) Not to get it on discogs asap and asking ridiculous prices
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@@doctorphibes601 Thank you! I wish more people understood this!
I'd love you to do a video on still affordable rock records and where to find cheap records.
I’ll see what I can do
All great points. Especially since they now have a choice and choose Vinyl for all the good reasons.
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It will die off as the generation that grew up in the 70's and 80's get older. It's all about nostalgia and the 90's generation came up on CD's.
That Australian House Of Holy pressing is weird. That photo is the Inner Gatefold and looks like you have it inside-out. More like a misprint or mis-fold.
I have always been a media collector, mostly CDs. I now collect CDs and LPs. I grew up with knowing the flaws of LPs and always avoided them and started with Cassette and then CDs. I am new to streaming and found that it's a great tool for finding new music. I used to download MP3s (illegally) to find music I wanted and then buy it if I liked it. Now I can look it up in Spotify and then decide whether or not to buy.
LPs do not sound better than a well mastered CD. I think this is the placebo effect. If I put on a classic album like Pink Floyds Piper at the Gates of Dawn on CD, I think there is something wrong with it. Its a CD, it should sound much better my brain tells me. I put the original 67 LP on and it sounds fine. I compare them back to back and they sound the same, however my mind just accepts that its an old recording and it is what it is on LP. But the CD should sound better when in reality it should and does sound the same. When ever I put on a great sounding LP it seems to blow me away. I listen to a lot of sythwave on LP and it sounds awesome but not better than the streaming or CD copies I have.
In the UK we have equity release ads on TV with boring things they’d spend their money on. My fantasy ad would be a male or female saying “I own a used record store, and my house helped to pay for it.”
If you strike vinyl down it will only come back more powerful than ever.
I had Sacred Mushroom on CD from a yard sale. I also got it fir the cover.
Nice!
I hope so. I miss picking up entire collections at Goodwill for 25 bucks...
Not a bad thing finding dollar bin deals. For those with eclectic tastes Goodwill and dollar bins can be a goldmine!
For sure!
Congratulations on finding a holy grail in the wild as you had dreamed. You made it happen!
What a great story telling video. I love records for those reasons that you mentioned. Went I was growing up never like jazz music but now there is some jazz artists that I love because how wonderful they sound on the format of Vinyl. In the same way I don’t like everything on vinyl some artist music sounds great on cd or digital and the vinyl sucks. Therefore my music collection has evolved is a mix of cassette, cds and vinyl. My niche now on getting record if it is in a good condition and sound great for me I will keep it.
Really surprised that Atlantic would release Zep's Houses of The Holy on ATCO in Brazil since Page was so dead set against any of the band's albums appearing on that label.
All I gotta say is, there’s a REASON why people who collect vinyl and specifically vinyl swear by it as the best way to listen to music. There’s a whole plethora of communities but the vinyl community is the most passionate, for a reason.
Arguably, DJs kept vinyl alive through the '90s and '00s when everyone else bought CDs. Now, most people use streaming services and DJs generally use digital files. As for vinyl, I think there will always be hardcore collectors of it, but I think its popularity will fade with the general public because kids these days are more into video games than music.
I'm trying to find out what is the original pressing of the Kak lp. Does a pressing exist with a pasted on rear cover ? Or have they always been just one piece ? Help if you can. Thanks
I think one exists with the pastes rear cover, I don’t have one though
Vinyl is more compressed; you have to compress to master to vinyl; you don't have to compress to master a cd. The Robert Ludwig Led Zeppelin II is a compressed hot mix. I don't think folks completely understand compression and believe it's "chopping off the highs and lows". It's more an emphasis of the midrange with the music moved up into the mix. There are different techniques used to compress. Rudy Van Gelder had his own method and equipment employed on the "original Bluenotes." You also have the option of compressing each instrument vs the entire mix.
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Ive been buying records since the 50's. I still have 95% of all te records I've ever purchased. The only thing that stops me from purchasing all my music that way is $.
It’s not that I didn’t want them back in the 90’s. It’s just that stores quit stocking them . They chose to carry cds and cassette only . Musicland or places like that in malls just had limited space so they went with the latest technology at the time. I do think the inflation will have a effect on sales also for new releases