Oh yeah! You can get this thing to have a crazy launch! Rev up the RPM’s and dump the clutch with traction completely off. The trick is that you have to let out the clutch while it’s revving up vs holding it at a certain RPM. Seems to be easier on the clutch doing it that way. Wouldn’t recommend doing that often for longevity reasons. 😅
BRO FOR REAL, I swear I was half PRAYING THAT i could SIT there but mf I couldn't even FIT MY JAYS on the rear floor mat and I'M one stubborn mf, I'm talking we used to go on 10 hour family trips in 2 doors
I bought a GR86 and I feel like it looks a lot better than the BRZ. The duck bill and the better looking front bumper is what sold the GR86 over the BRZ.
They are calibrated differently though. The GR86 is slightly more aggressive in its tuning/power curve and has better throttle response while the BRZ is tuned slightly more for comfort
Idk. They both feel the same to me 😂 I’d have to drive them literally back to back. If there truly were a difference, it’s so minimal that the average person couldn’t tell the difference.
@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial you’re right. I think the video I watched on it was wrong (though it was convincing) lol ruclips.net/video/q7-l_sWYwwc/видео.htmlsi=cII_FUg8ECvLLyvA. If anything it’s probably just the throttle response is slightly different. I’ve driven the GR86 quite a bit and love that thing.
@@higurro the video I’m referencing is on everydaydriver and they talk about the differences. As I mentioned in the previous comment though, probably not the case because they’re the only ones to say it. I think the throttle response is different though.
I own a ‘23 BRZ and don’t regret buying it one bit. A few more things you can add on to the car to make it look better and also I like gunmetal wheels and they come with gunmetal wheels whether you get premium or limited. GR86 limited wheels are black and I never liked black wheels and the premium is silver with black that I didn’t like also
I'd love it with a good engine. Subaru's engines and transmissions don't hold up to their own power. I'm not sure which transmission is in this thing, but 3rd gear is too small in the imprezza.
I used to drive two cars regularly when designated driving for a professional DD company. One of these BRZ’s that belonged to a mechanic, and a late 80’s Porsche 911 that…didn’t belong to a mechanic. Both were a blast. The 911 hit 80mph too easily, I wanna say second gear, but the tuned up BRZ had me too scared to see what it would do. They can sound soooo nice it’s unbelievable.
I bet it will be super reliable for at least 200K miles if you take care of it. The WRX has the same engine except with a turbo on it while the BRZ (Toyota GR86) is naturally aspirated. And you can't go wrong with the manual transmission. And even if you choose the automatic. It's a Toyota built automatic. Solid sports car.
Less affordable to maintain then you think cuz it's a Subaru engine which is more expensive AND with the added unreliability if you picked the 2.4l versions
@@lanceh2009 well it’s no MX-5. But I’ve worked in automotive for 20 years now. Subaru 2.5’s can absolutely have problems. But it’s still a much more affordable option than many alternatives. Wheels, tires, brakes, exhaust, scheduled maintenance for example.
@@fastcars514 ok so i checked and it says the gr has a stiffer rear springs opted for drifting and sliding around while the brz has stiffer front springs opted for handling and cornering, this info is from a reddit post thought im too lazy to go more into details, i wrote this just in case anyone was wondering and wanted more info
The suspension is a little different between the two. I bought the brz, because I'm a subaru guy. I like sliding around, but the brz makes you work a little harder to get the tail to kick out.
I have this same exact car same color and everything, one of the most bang for your buck sports cars since its so cheap and fun to drive. Depending on the dealer, it’s actually a bit cheaper than the gr86 in total cost because of the higher markup prices.
I own a facelifted BRZ first Gen 2020 , love it !! I'll probably change it to a 2nd gen in 2-3 years. Great cars! both this and the GR , just hope they solve the rtv issues.
It’s funny because with the first gen, I massively preferred the way the BRZ looked to the FRS/GT86, but with this new gen that has completely flipped. Love the way the 86 looks but I really don’t like the front end of the BRZ. Hopefully a GR86 will be coming into my life soon!
There's supposed to be a difference in the rear differential making the Toyota more tail happy and the Subaru more suited for straight line performance.
I really liked the BRZ more and was top 3 of cars to get next, I was looking for a 2 door coupe with back seats. I unfortunately didn't get it because it didn't have the kind of acceleration I was looking for.
I know a dude in Arizona who owns a Scion FRS but he swapped the engine with a Chevy engine, he said it was an LS engine or something like that, put some nice wheels on it and that thing sounds so mean and pulls. It looks and and sounds cool because it's a small car but sounds aggressive.
Better question is if we would pick you over Daveed Diggs. Trick question its the same person
Bruh 😂😂
They genuinely do look the same 😂
How about storage wise
more like weeknd... Don't judge me
😂😂
GR86 - Angry face
BRZ - Smiley face
Aand that's like the only visible difference
@@mini4tureto be real.
Only the front bumper design is different
@@ImanSengupta2102and rear
@@humannt3374 woah just noticed that! They be making same car with different wheels and bumpers 😑
@@ImanSengupta2102 wheels look the same 🤔
That launch was ACTUALLY fun!
Oh yeah! You can get this thing to have a crazy launch! Rev up the RPM’s and dump the clutch with traction completely off. The trick is that you have to let out the clutch while it’s revving up vs holding it at a certain RPM. Seems to be easier on the clutch doing it that way. Wouldn’t recommend doing that often for longevity reasons. 😅
@@forrestsautoreviewsofficialAwesome! 😅
My 5 speed wrx transmission crying right now
@@forrestsautoreviewsofficialyou should record it :)
Rwd, 6spd manual, 228hp and a real handbrake?! Talking about having fun.
Funnest car I owned
@@Walteralexander1 it tells jokes too?! Count me in.
@@Dr.Ticklebum69😂😂😂
@@Dr.Ticklebum69 funniest and funnest are one letter apart and I think it autocorrected it. 🤣
More like 190whp. It ain't fun
You forgot to mention the backseats designed for leg amputees
BRO FOR REAL, I swear I was half PRAYING THAT i could SIT there but mf I couldn't even FIT MY JAYS on the rear floor mat and I'M one stubborn mf, I'm talking we used to go on 10 hour family trips in 2 doors
sit sideways maybe?
@@aat1f mf how am I gonna fit 4 like that? It ain't 1980 no more, I can't pack people in my car like tetris blocks
I'm 6 foot and I actually found the backseats to be just fine. A friend that was shorter but weighed more felt it was too tight.
“Thats just fo decoration that’s it and that’s all”
-Bubb Rubb and Lil Sis
BRZ:😃
GR86: 😡
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I bought a GR86 and I feel like it looks a lot better than the BRZ. The duck bill and the better looking front bumper is what sold the GR86 over the BRZ.
Yea but that price difference though😅.
Made the right choice, a toy is always better than a subie
Lol Im the opposite
@@fastcars514usually, but the motor is subaru, so you get subaru issues either way :/
"Super supportive Fucking seats"
Paused to look for this comment 😂😂
He said “bucket” seats
@@heNzVf20c we know
@@Ymcdaj I could have sworn I heard him say "supportive Fucking seats" 💀 💀 💀
@@OrLandoEditz12 lol me too tho
That burnout launch was sick!
Honestly, the infotainment is all I needed to see. It's not overly large and looks easy to use.
It’s not bad , it has an anniversary reminder on it
The blue color in this video is the reason to go BRZ over GR86. The best hands down.
They are calibrated differently though. The GR86 is slightly more aggressive in its tuning/power curve and has better throttle response while the BRZ is tuned slightly more for comfort
Idk. They both feel the same to me 😂
I’d have to drive them literally back to back. If there truly were a difference, it’s so minimal that the average person couldn’t tell the difference.
@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial you’re right. I think the video I watched on it was wrong (though it was convincing) lol ruclips.net/video/q7-l_sWYwwc/видео.htmlsi=cII_FUg8ECvLLyvA. If anything it’s probably just the throttle response is slightly different. I’ve driven the GR86 quite a bit and love that thing.
I'm sure the original GT86 and BRZ were indeed set up differently. Perhaps it's no longer the case though.
@@higurro the video I’m referencing is on everydaydriver and they talk about the differences. As I mentioned in the previous comment though, probably not the case because they’re the only ones to say it. I think the throttle response is different though.
I’ve heard the brz is slightly more prone to understeer and the gr86 leans towards oversteer.
had my manual GR86 for a little over a year. Absolutely zero complaints so far, even after having taken it to the track!
I was about to say, "aren't they the same thing"? 😂
I like the look of the 86 better, also they have that package you can get with the duck tail, looks better imo
You can get a duckbill on the brz. A oem color matched duckbill is like $200.
I own the brz and can definitely tell you thst its fun to drive.
10/10 handing❤
GR86 looks better, but like you said can't go wrong with either.
Yeah GR86 looks better
Yeah GR86 looks better
They both are unreliable trash. Subaru's boxer motors suck.
@@Lifeisgood311 FA20s are reliable if treated well. FA24s on the other hand. Not so much
@@zachcarswell5787 "if treated well" you mean babied lol They aren't any good, man. It's kinda well known by everyone at this point.
Id say the 86 premium is a little nicer. It has an Alcantara dash shade, armrest, steering wheel, and leather/alcantara seats.
deng that launch pretty sure u had a smiling face while doing that
I own a ‘23 BRZ and don’t regret buying it one bit. A few more things you can add on to the car to make it look better and also I like gunmetal wheels and they come with gunmetal wheels whether you get premium or limited. GR86 limited wheels are black and I never liked black wheels and the premium is silver with black that I didn’t like also
Owned one- one of the best driver’s cars out there
not car related but this dudes curls are always on point 👌
It looks so good in that blue
GR86: 😠
BRZ: 😀
I just got a 2023 GR86 so it cool to see you review a car I own!
Sounds amazing 😮
Add an AIG closed deck block with forged rotating assembly and an HKS turbo kit, you’ve got yourself a monster. Don’t forget bigger brakes.
Buy either, amazing car for $.
That said depends on roads around you. BRZ is more compliant for rough roads.
The boxer actually sounds pretty nice
Ej, I feel like the older ones sound better, tho it may be the muffler, because my dad's sti sounded fine, but I stand by my 01 impreza sounds great
I'd love it with a good engine. Subaru's engines and transmissions don't hold up to their own power. I'm not sure which transmission is in this thing, but 3rd gear is too small in the imprezza.
Bro pulled off a rolling burnout:
Me: i NEED this car.
the only other difference is the suspension tuning; BRZ front stiff rear soft, GR vice versa. iirc rear sway bar mounting point is different as well
BRZ because I am a Subaru fan boy
I used to drive two cars regularly when designated driving for a professional DD company. One of these BRZ’s that belonged to a mechanic, and a late 80’s Porsche 911 that…didn’t belong to a mechanic. Both were a blast. The 911 hit 80mph too easily, I wanna say second gear, but the tuned up BRZ had me too scared to see what it would do. They can sound soooo nice it’s unbelievable.
A manual in 2024? I’m takin that shi-
Um
1) it does not sound like a boxer at all due to equal length headers
2) the difference is the rear sway bar connections.
Petition to make Forrest show his drifting and driving skills 👇🏻
I really wish Subaru put this infotainment in the WRX, it's so nice and practical
Btw that was a wicked launch! May 6 speeds never die
I love my BRZ, such a fun car
I bet it will be super reliable for at least 200K miles if you take care of it. The WRX has the same engine except with a turbo on it while the BRZ (Toyota GR86) is naturally aspirated. And you can't go wrong with the manual transmission. And even if you choose the automatic. It's a Toyota built automatic. Solid sports car.
yo hair is actually dope
They’re great cars. However, the RTV oil starvation issue is bit concerning when you’re doing hard cornering on track
Thats wheelspin tho🥵🔥🔥🔥
It’s actually funny because there are die hard Subaru & Toyota enthusiasts that will go to battle over which one is actually the best 😂
They are the same but there are slight mechanical differences
The GR86 front has this pursed lips look that I'm not font of. Like the wider smile of the BRZ more.
i ain't see no one talk about it but that exhaust sound F#*@ing crazy. better then a lot of cars these days.
Yes. It looks better and is less tail happy (which is subjective) but I'd prefer that
Both Subaru & Toyota Are GOOD Cars.
Bro I love how you’ve slowed yourself down a little bit in the video, it helps appreciate the car a little more ❤
Just like how the electric Subaru design is from different Toyota vehicles
Affordable to buy and maintain, boat loads of fun to drive and with under 250 hp you’ve really got to work at it to lose control. Such a great car.
Less affordable to maintain then you think cuz it's a Subaru engine which is more expensive AND with the added unreliability if you picked the 2.4l versions
@@lanceh2009 well it’s no MX-5. But I’ve worked in automotive for 20 years now. Subaru 2.5’s can absolutely have problems. But it’s still a much more affordable option than many alternatives. Wheels, tires, brakes, exhaust, scheduled maintenance for example.
I wish they kept the old design, it was so iconic!
My fav RUclipsr
Keep posting
my first inclination is to go original, Toyota. That engine sounds pretty mean though! Still needs a turbo if you ask me though.
i think the suspension on the brz is stiffer as well, not sure though
It's the gr86 is stiffer, if the brz was better and cheaper, no one would buy the gr86
@@fastcars514 ok so i checked and it says the gr has a stiffer rear springs opted for drifting and sliding around while the brz has stiffer front springs opted for handling and cornering, this info is from a reddit post thought im too lazy to go more into details, i wrote this just in case anyone was wondering and wanted more info
i picked the 86! i’ve had it for a week now, loads of fun
Yeah I would pick the BRZ over the GR86! which is exactly what I did when I picked mine up last month 🤣
I'd choose the BRZ. I love the blue and Subaru sells at MSRP. Toyota will mark up theirs.
The suspension is a little different between the two. I bought the brz, because I'm a subaru guy. I like sliding around, but the brz makes you work a little harder to get the tail to kick out.
The suspension is too low for me. 1 foot of snow and that thing is struggling. WRX is the compromise but the design is good.
The GR86 has the duckbill spoiler so it would be my pick
I have this same exact car same color and everything, one of the most bang for your buck sports cars since its so cheap and fun to drive. Depending on the dealer, it’s actually a bit cheaper than the gr86 in total cost because of the higher markup prices.
GR86 all day long. I just like the front end look better and it’s tuned ever so slightly different to be more fun.
Different rear subframe, sway bars, and knuckle material but yea that’s it
this is like would you have a fish or a fish
This car, 10 years ago would be a dream... For people to complain for less than 30k would be ..
Oh yeah
Love them both,they both get you the smile
That’s my dream car, but the first generation I don’t know why I like the first generation, but I would also put on a Varis Kamikaze body kit
I like the happy axolotl face, there’s also one sitting outside so I already chose
If it was 300 hp it would be a steal!
GR86 > BRZ
Also people are running 210+ whp on dynos that’s 250-260 to the crank. 228 is definitely underrated.
I own a facelifted BRZ first Gen 2020 , love it !!
I'll probably change it to a 2nd gen in 2-3 years.
Great cars! both this and the GR , just hope they solve the rtv issues.
Bud can review and convince anyone to buy it
Hat off to you man!!!🎉🎉
I love your content, can you
Please try to show a McLaren 720s
Gr for the suspension
It’s funny because with the first gen, I massively preferred the way the BRZ looked to the FRS/GT86, but with this new gen that has completely flipped. Love the way the 86 looks but I really don’t like the front end of the BRZ. Hopefully a GR86 will be coming into my life soon!
Always love the energy in these dudes reviews
There's supposed to be a difference in the rear differential making the Toyota more tail happy and the Subaru more suited for straight line performance.
Or the Scion FR-S.
I really liked the BRZ more and was top 3 of cars to get next, I was looking for a 2 door coupe with back seats. I unfortunately didn't get it because it didn't have the kind of acceleration I was looking for.
I'm probably getting the Subaru brz sti ts *For my first car* 😊
I'm ngl, that is the most subaru boxer sound if I have ever heard one
It's my dream car
I've seen the Subaru BRZ in person. it's such a sexy Car ngl.
Yo hair fye im tryna get sum like that fr
I drove one back in 2018 and It was really slow and definitely wasn't breaking the tires loose. Maybe they have more hp now
i was surprised with that launch lmao pretty sick
Wow... Didn't expect that burn out in that little car... Nice
I know a dude in Arizona who owns a Scion FRS but he swapped the engine with a Chevy engine, he said it was an LS engine or something like that, put some nice wheels on it and that thing sounds so mean and pulls. It looks and and sounds cool because it's a small car but sounds aggressive.
Dealing with a Subaru dealership over a Toyota one is a blessing.
The smiley is much better than the frown, too bad dealers are selling these 5k more expensive that the 86
For me I like the 86 face more but I like the BRZ for everything else
Absolutely love my new GR86. It drives a lot like my ND Miata but with stiffer suspension and more power
They actually have a fair few things different the Toyotas have a lighter rear end which changes the way they drive drastically in my opinion
just heard about the 86/brz. never looked into the brz before but now i am 😂 i also really liked the 86 too
Also the Points it makes power are different. Maybe identical but the tunes are far from the same i would choose the gr86😊
BRZ: Can i copy your homework, GR86?
GR86: Okay, but make couple of changes so the teacher doesnt notice.
BRZ:
😮😆