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    On Christmas Eve, December 24, 1945, a fire destroyed the Sodder residence in Fayetteville, West Virginia, United States. At the time, it was occupied by George Sodder, his wife Jennie, and nine of their ten children. During the fire, George, Jennie, and four of the nine children escaped. The bodies of the other five children have never been found. The surviving Sodder family believed for the rest of their lives that the five missing children survived.
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  • @johnbradley7294
    @johnbradley7294 2 года назад +697

    Bricky knew about temperature of the fire because he wanted to be a fireman was the real surprise of this episode.

    • @Jormyyy
      @Jormyyy 2 года назад +26

      Real Bricky og fans know he was an EMT who wanted to be a firefighter

    • @christineboari131
      @christineboari131 2 года назад +3

      @@Jormyyy I knew about him being an EMT, but never knew about the firefighter part.

    • @nap0038
      @nap0038 2 года назад +6

      @@Jormyyy learned it from Magikarp’s documentary on Bricky. If y’all haven’t seen it, it’s pretty good!

    • @Jormyyy
      @Jormyyy 2 года назад +1

      @@nap0038 I loved Karp's docuvideos!

  • @ladywaffle2210
    @ladywaffle2210 2 года назад +961

    Mussolini was also disliked by the Mafia, because he cracked down on their power. That's why the Mafia aided the Allies during Operation Husky. (If you ever played Mafia I/II, you know this.)

    • @Samm815
      @Samm815 2 года назад +12

      Or Mafia II

    • @sladewilson2753
      @sladewilson2753 2 года назад +4

      Why did the mafia dislike him?

    • @apollothecoderule.8639
      @apollothecoderule.8639 2 года назад +64

      @@sladewilson2753 because he cracked down on their power

    • @thelordchancellor3454
      @thelordchancellor3454 2 года назад +102

      @@sladewilson2753 ‘ah bippity boopity he’s a fascist and we don’t like that eh, we have pride in our crime family and not our nation eh’- Chef Boi Ardee, captain of The Mob(tm)

    • @bruhfunnies3441
      @bruhfunnies3441 2 года назад +49

      @@thelordchancellor3454 "eyyyy mah name is a don lorgar ofa da mafia anda we do not like the fascists badabing badaboom gabagool!"

  • @throneup
    @throneup Год назад +28

    Bricky's rant about Santa falling off the roof and dying is the funniest thing in the world to me.

  • @joshsquatch7474
    @joshsquatch7474 2 года назад +106

    I was a volunteer firefighter for a few years, and i have to say, this is the most clownish fire chief i've ever heard of..

    • @wepntech
      @wepntech 2 года назад +1

      he was involved, as in mafia. I'm sue.

    • @Sgt.Dornan
      @Sgt.Dornan 2 года назад +16

      @@wepntech the mob hated mussolini as much as george due to his regime cracking down on their operations.

    • @joshsquatch7474
      @joshsquatch7474 2 года назад +7

      @@Sgt.Dornan that is true, if im correct they even worked with the allies during operation husky

    • @bentuovila5296
      @bentuovila5296 2 года назад +3

      Fire chief Wiggum.

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Год назад +1

      He was probably in on it.

  • @johnoneil9188
    @johnoneil9188 2 года назад +393

    In a different timeline it would be Shy and DK doing this podcast while Bricky actually became a fire fighter.

  • @konradviii5663
    @konradviii5663 2 года назад +145

    The idea of the fire burning the bodies completely is really sketchy to me, as someone who is (unfortunately) well versed in cremation.
    For those who don't know, cremation doesn't burn away all the bones, despite the body burning for so long. Bone fragments will remain after the process is completed, at which point a device called cremulator is used to grind the remaining bones to dust. The dust is then added to the ashes, placed into an urn and presented to the family of the deceased.
    Given that there was 5 children in that house when it went up, there should have been at least some fragments left in the wreckage, to the point where even the short search would have found something.

    • @Kameth
      @Kameth 2 года назад +19

      I was going to add the same thing - unless the Sodder family politely let a bunch of strangers run into the smouldering ruins with shovels and an industrial grinder before they started looking themselves... Yah. Domestic home fires don't get that hot.

    • @Kameth
      @Kameth 2 года назад +22

      @@PodreyJenkin138 burying the whole site under a whopping 5 feet of formerly graveyard soil. Yeesh, that's a great way to make everything very complicated and uncertain.

    • @Broomer52
      @Broomer52 Год назад

      This whole story screams of corruption and collusion. From the insanely convenient series of events that led to the total destruction of the house to the almost calculated failure to respond and the fact he was unpopular in his town because of his dislike of Mussolini. This feels like the right people in town wanted to ruin him.

  • @theoneandonlygrod
    @theoneandonlygrod 2 года назад +75

    Octavia: "So, what did you want to be?"
    Bricky: *remembering training to be an EMT/firefighter* "I wanted to be a hero..."

    • @AngryHomunculus
      @AngryHomunculus 11 месяцев назад +3

      who is Octavia?

    • @nathanvarnum7437
      @nathanvarnum7437 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@AngryHomunculusI believe it’s from one of the Nightlords books, Octavia being a human talking to the main character Talos. Basically just him saying that to be a space marine he assumed he’d be a hero, not a terrorist.
      Also just realized how late this comment was but hope it helped I guess lol

    • @AngryHomunculus
      @AngryHomunculus 8 месяцев назад

      @@nathanvarnum7437 yeah I only started listening to the book club episodes recently, so yeah I understand the reference now. Thanks anyway for the explanation

  • @WinterxGhost
    @WinterxGhost 2 года назад +200

    As a electrician, sometimes when we hear faulty wiring as a cause for a fire, it is usually that they could not figure out how the fire happened. It is the default explanation even if it wasn't the cause of the fire.

    • @bonogiamboni4830
      @bonogiamboni4830 2 года назад +21

      So basically the fire department's version of "john doe"?

    • @JeevesAnthrozaurUS
      @JeevesAnthrozaurUS 2 года назад +31

      Like when archeologists find an object and don't know what it's purpose is, so they jot it down as "for ritual purposes"

    • @WinterxGhost
      @WinterxGhost 2 года назад +5

      @@JeevesAnthrozaurUS Yea pretty much

    • @domm138
      @domm138 Год назад +1

      when i was in tech school, we were taught that the only way you can cause an electrical fire in your typical house installations is if you were to stick a nail through a burned fuse and remove all the quartz sand from its housing
      literally the only times i've ever heard of house fires starting because of "bad electrical wiring" were those such cases

    • @unbearablysmug2437
      @unbearablysmug2437 Год назад

      Source?

  • @AdamantAlex
    @AdamantAlex 2 года назад +29

    I just noticed that Shy has poured herself a cup of liquor, yet is drinking direct from the bottle. Subtle, but very funny.

  • @darkpit37
    @darkpit37 2 года назад +28

    As someone who has chickens, what they meant was "make sure they have food." What you usually do with chickens is you have a feeder, which is basically a modified bucket, and you just make sure there's always food in it. If it's running low, you put more in.

  • @Skitarii_Ranger
    @Skitarii_Ranger 2 года назад +305

    Glad to see my favourite 40k podcast branching out into true crime

    • @thatScoutdog
      @thatScoutdog 2 года назад +8

      Honestly I thought they reach into AOS first

    • @kamilsowik7884
      @kamilsowik7884 2 года назад

      This is some of the fucking tzeentch levels of bullshittery with all of it. Yes is no & no is yes. Lies, mad people, sheemery and over all people bullshitting their way to the top of media.

    • @Yominication
      @Yominication 2 года назад +3

      @@thatScoutdog i wish DK would be the host for Fantasy

  • @honeyjm8324
    @honeyjm8324 2 года назад +61

    This is one of the most terrifying things in crime, no one knows, but we all know something is not on the up and up

  • @Eleven217
    @Eleven217 2 года назад +199

    What entices me from this is the intrigue. I have never even heard of these cases. With 40k I kind of know what's going to be talked about. With this? I have NOTHING of context knowledge besides of what I'm being told here. This was force fed on us on april fools, but as the rest of the audience, as disturbing as a person enjoying the prospect of suddenly being strangled, I ask for more.

    • @Rustie3000
      @Rustie3000 2 года назад +8

      I totally agree. I mean, i've already seen a pretty well made documentary about the D.B. Cooper case (done by the Channel Lemmino, strongly recommended by the way), so i knew most of the things DK talked about in the first episode (although he also brought up some stuff i didn't already know, what was exciting). But with this one, i didn't know a thing and it was so interesting to listen to!

  • @tilly4273
    @tilly4273 2 года назад +17

    It's like Disco Elysium. DK is Kim, knowledgeable about the world and the case. Bricky is Harry, the drunken detective with huge blanks in his knowledge/information that has random epiphanies like "You can't fucking burn remains like that.". And shy is the alcohol.

  • @RepKyle95
    @RepKyle95 2 года назад +132

    I misread "Sodder" as "Slender" first and was REALLY confused
    Also, I am LOVING this true crime podcast. So much deep diving, and research by DK into the subject matter, it just feels *right.* I also like that y'all are going with unsolved cases, rather than just charting the history of a case that was eventually solved. Makes it more interesting for discussion, imo.
    Keep up the great work, boys!

    • @carnim7929
      @carnim7929 2 года назад +2

      Ah yes, my friend John Slender

  • @oldwolflogan4224
    @oldwolflogan4224 2 года назад +59

    This was an amazing idea, DK. Major props on having the guts to turn a one-off April Fools prank into a monthly thing I genuinely look forward to. Hell, I might just turn this into a small adventure for a future DnD game.

  • @dlvnmedia
    @dlvnmedia 2 года назад +55

    Target and Walmart would be the closest thing to a dime store. It was named for Woolworth’s which did have a lot of items at 5 or 10 cents a piece. It was generally the biggest general store in a ton of rural areas. It’s also where the term dime novel comes from since they were the only place to find a lot of cheap pulpy books in most of America

  • @elduendedeslaverdad9772
    @elduendedeslaverdad9772 2 года назад +44

    It's unlikely that it was the Mob because Mussolini cracked down hard on organized crime as a threat to his power making a more likely suspect of Italian Nationalists, especially given the large Italian population in the area

  • @mindwarp42
    @mindwarp42 Год назад +8

    Little side note, since the gang was confused about the oldest son still serving overseas even though WW II was over: for folks who weren't directly assigned to occupation duty, Operation Magic Carpet to repatriate military took a while. Between that and the forces occupying Germany and Japan, still being overseas in December 1945 is very feasible. (Personal proof: my maternal grandfather was still over in Europe, while my paternal uncle was in Japan as part of their WW II service then.)

  • @The_Starfleet_Ensign
    @The_Starfleet_Ensign 2 года назад +19

    okay so hear me out. they called the house from a party as a "wrong number" to confirm they were home? cause it's christmass and they might be at another place with friends and/or family
    edit: "nvm bricky just said that"

  • @BR-bn1mz
    @BR-bn1mz 2 года назад +21

    Cut truck breaks, use ladder to steal kids, maybe lock the door, then ditch it, throw firebomb into the window (hence the sound near the roof), drive away.
    Maybe the call was to check if people were in and awake ?, just a guess from halfway through

  • @alistairb5839
    @alistairb5839 2 года назад +127

    These are honestly great! I love DK having something to Host and I love his presentation style Good job DK and crew!

  • @spooch3257
    @spooch3257 2 года назад +15

    What was once an April fools joke is now officially a mother's day tradition.

  • @charlesentrekin140
    @charlesentrekin140 2 года назад +53

    There are three problems I see in this episode. From what I've been able to find out mostly studying the mafia from accounts of former members, at the time there was a strict rule to not Target women and children. Second the grenade that was called a pineapple is a fragmentation grenade 6 seconds fuse with a very loud bang at the end. The incendiary one looked more like a modern smoke grenade. Finally one crazy idea, one of the most popular toys of the time was a decoder ring. There would have been several available and I'm just wondering if anybody ever took that message from the back of the photo and used a decoder ring on it. It would probably be one hell of a task because off the top of my head I can remember seeing at least six or seven decoder rings that were popular at that time, the time of the kidnapping.

    • @GamerGrovyle
      @GamerGrovyle 2 года назад +20

      I struggled with the Mafia theories too mainly because the majority of Mafia related crimes as you mentioned most times don't target women or children but they're also all motivated by making money.
      You sell drugs to make money, you steal cars to make money, if you shoot a guy dead it's because he's selling drugs on your turf and hindering you making money.
      My money would be on Child Traffickers. I'm not sure how big of a deal they were at the time, there might have been a lot more of them, it's war, parents are dying overseas, kids are less protected etc...
      If I'm betting on Child Traffickers I'd also wager the Hotel Owning Woman was telling the truth about the Italian people with the kids.
      If they're transporting five or more kids you need a small group to keep them under control and you don't want people talking to them and getting any names.

    • @varangiangaming7178
      @varangiangaming7178 2 года назад +1

      This definitely wasn't the Mafia, however I am inclined to believe they were kidnapped and quite possibly killed or sold into slavery by Fascists from the Italian diaspora. As others have pointed out fascists especially ones in the diaspora are some of the most insane and fanatical people in the world and will resort to any action to get what they want no matter how petty it is.

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 2 года назад +2

      Yeah they don’t go after the family of their target unless if they were at war with said family.

  • @styxdragoncharon4003
    @styxdragoncharon4003 2 года назад +36

    Today I found out DK can tell a story. I could almost whistle about it 😇

    • @Bubbadroid6502
      @Bubbadroid6502 2 года назад +2

      Watch his DB cooper episode he did! It’s the first of these types of podcasts they’re starting

    • @styxdragoncharon4003
      @styxdragoncharon4003 2 года назад

      @@Bubbadroid6502 I did... You missed the hidden message in there... I'm starting to see a pattern.

  • @pizmak
    @pizmak 2 года назад +303

    Great episode, really liked it. I'm not convinced about the Mussolini criticism motivation, I think that he was already dead, it was 1945 right? So it would take real zealots to do such thing because of criticism of a dead leader of a looser fraction. However, maybe George got involved with some dangerous people in other way, but he latched on to this theory. Also, I agree with the Bricky's final theory that the murderers could take the children somewhere else and then start the fire to cover their tracks. Also, using "mafia methods" doesn't mean that it was mafia, there are no copyrights on crime.

    • @bossbeartherock6034
      @bossbeartherock6034 2 года назад +10

      Mussolini survived into spring 1945

    • @All4Games4
      @All4Games4 2 года назад +22

      Eeeh keep in mind that Mussolini had decendents and that after the deaths of figures like Mussolini and Hitler their more zealotous supporters still only became more emboldened by their deaths.

    • @bossbeartherock6034
      @bossbeartherock6034 2 года назад +11

      @@All4Games4 yeah and they hold or have held political office in italy because democracy do be whack sometimes

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 2 года назад

      Fascist are pretty damn Zealotous I'd say. People in the Ukraine rn are killing in the name of Hitler and white nationalism so it's not that far of a stretch to say there were some Mussolini finatics at the end of ww2

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 2 года назад

      @@bossbeartherock6034 this is how democracy works everytime fascist will always exist to take advantage of pussy liberal political systems as long as they allow them too exist

  • @mitemaximus831
    @mitemaximus831 2 года назад +18

    I'm so happy this is becoming more than the April Fools' joke

  • @NingenSlayerZamasu
    @NingenSlayerZamasu 2 года назад +8

    Honestly when DK was talking about the house fire I kept saying “it can’t get any worse” and it just kept getting worse. It was like rapid fire with how everything just kept getting worse.

  • @rasmuslaurila7611
    @rasmuslaurila7611 2 года назад +16

    Honestly this drip of non 40K content really ups the enjoyment i get from this amazing channel

  • @azathoththe3rd
    @azathoththe3rd 2 года назад +54

    Loving this. If I can make a recommendation I think you'd love to talk about the Iceman. A notorious mob hitman/serial killer

    • @chistosquisto9079
      @chistosquisto9079 2 года назад

      Didn’t he do an interview/documentary at some point? Name sounds familiar

    • @azathoththe3rd
      @azathoththe3rd 2 года назад

      @@chistosquisto9079 best way to describe him is he's a textbook sociopathic serial killer down to childhood abuse and a cold, calculating demander which is what earned him the name "The Iceman" from the police. He knew exactly what he was so decided to make a career out of killing for the mob.

    • @kutgjjyhjfrjthr3176
      @kutgjjyhjfrjthr3176 2 года назад

      @@chistosquisto9079 yes he did

  • @jcmahrt5100
    @jcmahrt5100 2 года назад +8

    What started as an April fool's joke became something monthly.
    That is how great things are born.

  • @alistareapalex983
    @alistareapalex983 2 года назад +15

    Human trafficking is and always has been very profitable DK. 5 fresh young bodies can translate to a lotta scratch if you know how to pull it off.

    • @DJGumm3yG4t0r
      @DJGumm3yG4t0r 2 года назад +4

      That doesn't explain the torching of the house tho. The simplest explanation is that it was fascists who where not happy with the fathers politics.

    • @farmerboy916
      @farmerboy916 Год назад

      @@DJGumm3yG4t0r Doubt it. Fascist groups and immigrants from the axis powers (for better and for worse) had an eye kept on them. Obviously you think of the Japanese camps, but there was… surveillance of the others by servicemen and intelligence groups as well as communities as a whole. Those from other axis countries just formed much larger immigrant groups that couldn’t be treated the same way for practical reasons, along with racial stuff. There was such an anti fascist and anti german/ italian sentiment that families who had spoken older german dialects (from when they emigrated) at home most all stopped by the end of the war, for instance (mine included). If it was some sort of would be fascist insurgents the feds would have LOVED to get involved

  • @dean2_
    @dean2_ 2 года назад +43

    I’d love for this mystery podcast style to one day cover the valley of headless men.

    • @Rustie3000
      @Rustie3000 2 года назад

      the what now? O.o

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 2 года назад

      @@Rustie3000 Nahanni valley several prospectors that were searching for gold that was said to be in the valley were found dead with their heads gone. As well as several disappearances.

  • @Rustie3000
    @Rustie3000 2 года назад +8

    First of all, i thoroughly enjoyed this episode, it was greatly narrated by DK and super interesting to listen to! I can't wait for the next installment!
    Second of all, like probably everyone, i too absolutely believe the fire was a case of arson.
    Third of all, my thoughts of what happened to the children after listening to the episode:
    1. They just died in the fire and their remains were never found because the search was not done properly and then the father covered up the site. My only problem with this is, even if the kids hid and waited for someone to get them out of there, why would none of them respond to their screaming parents in any way?
    2. Like Bricky said, probably because of the Father's strong opinions about Mussolini, the Mafia (or other Italian Americans who strongly liked Mussolini) took the kids and
    2a. straight up killed them somewhere else.
    2b. sold them to human trafficking.
    2c. dealt with them in some other way (maybe sent them to Italy or some Mafia Families adopted them, idk).
    Of these three possibilities i believe the most likely to be the first, because in my mind, it doesn't make sense to not kill the kids if you want the parents to go crazy about their whereabouts, everything else is too risky to leave some kind of trail. Also the fire clearly was lit to kill everyone inside the house. Whoever did it didn't want the parents to survive, so making a plan of purposefully making the kids disappear to drive the parents crazy wouldn't make any sense unless you just got rid of the kids in the "easiest" way possible aka killing them. The original plan maybe was to kill the entire family inside the house with the fire but the perpetrator didn't plan for some of the kids to be outside the house because of the chickens and the cows, so they had to improvise by taking the kids somewhere else and killing them.
    3. I still have another theory based on my own gut feeling and also maybe the stuff the expert said about Mafia methodes: Maybe there was one or multiple couples or just a number of people from the American Italian Community who hated George for his strong opinions or the family at large because of this or other reasons and they had a plan of abducting and adopting all or at least some of the children and killing the parents in the fire to hide their trails. Therefor when the children went outside to take care of the animals or when they were still playing in the living room with their oldest sister asleep, they took them (maybe the kids knew all or some of them because of the community, therefor they didn't scream). After this they transported them far away to some families for adoption.
    Really don't know why i came up with this, in my head it sounded convincing...
    P.S.: You should do Jack the Ripper on this and watch Lemmino's Video on the Subject! It's a well researched Documentary on it! Actually all of his Videos on unsolved Mysteries are great and a good start for research for future episodes.

  • @raptin1595
    @raptin1595 2 года назад +12

    Great episode, although I find it very hard to believe that the Italian Mafia did it. Mainly because the mob and Mussolini hated each other to the point where the mob held the allies in invading Sicily and aided in the Italian resistance, so the thought that they would get mad over someone bad mouthing Il Duce is very hard to believe, if anything it would be the other way around. But yeah that was totally an act of arson

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Год назад

      Probably by someone who supported Mussolini.

  • @ktinga1
    @ktinga1 2 года назад +5

    Also, coals do typically burn hotter than a visible flame. When heating metal to forge, a flame takes longer to get the metal hot enough, you place the metal into the coals to let it fully heat through. I don't think it would get hot enough to fully cremate human bone though.

    • @ReaLibro
      @ReaLibro 2 года назад +5

      A house fire won't get that hot. There's a reason we use gas jet crematoriums. They get super hot super quick.

  • @cyrilvidal1834
    @cyrilvidal1834 2 года назад +37

    This is so much fun to watch. Can't wait for the Eisenhorn lore.

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch 2 года назад +7

    OK small thing.
    I live in a tiny house. I occasionally hear bumps on my roof.
    I never go and check them because 10/10 times the reason was something stupid like a ball had blown away or a branch had loosend from the nearby tree.
    Hearing bumps in the night if you live on the countryside is not uncommon at all.

    • @noahmehringer29
      @noahmehringer29 2 года назад +1

      For someone who lives surrounded by trees taller than my house, I agree

    • @cousinzeke4888
      @cousinzeke4888 Год назад +2

      Fucking squirrels up there tap dancing again.

  • @bustead2
    @bustead2 2 года назад +34

    As someone from Macau, may I suggest an episode on Eight Immortals Restaurant murders?

    • @adenkyramud5005
      @adenkyramud5005 2 года назад

      I think casual criminalist covered that already so if you haven't seen that one go check it out xD and if he didn't definitely go suggest it to him, his writers always do a fantastic job at telling these stories

  • @CardinalCap.
    @CardinalCap. 2 года назад +4

    Love the intro, love everything about this! Thanks again you three for making this podcast too. Your hard work is appreciated.

  • @RandyNelson10
    @RandyNelson10 2 года назад +15

    I’m loving these. Great job DK!

  • @LEHR231
    @LEHR231 2 года назад +4

    seems unlikely that the mafia would kidnap them and then kill them and then not leave some kind of message for the family.

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 2 года назад +1

      And besides the Mafia we’re against Mussolini so they probably weren’t involved.

  • @Hallzor
    @Hallzor 2 года назад +15

    Yay more Detective Ridiculous! Love this addition to AR.

  • @jacobfreeman5444
    @jacobfreeman5444 2 года назад +3

    Bricky is right. A fire has to be incredibly hot to turn bones to ash. Think it is over 3000 F. Which, one can imagine, is very difficult to manage. To put it in perspective it only takes something over 400 F for wood to burn. I think, but I am less certain here, most campfires can hover around the 700 range? Anyway, you can see the huge gap between a wood fire and what it takes to cremate. Even with some to help the fire along I don't believe it would get anywhere close. You pretty much have to deliberately build for the conditions to do it.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 2 года назад

      @@PodreyJenkin138 the flesh? Maybe. The bones. Unlikely. The word bonfire comes from bone fire. Which should tell you how long bones could burn for if the fire is conventional. That a word formed around the idea of using bones as fuel for a fire.

  • @BEESKIT800
    @BEESKIT800 2 года назад +6

    i really like that they started doing crime mystery stuff. who would have thought this would become a thing a few months ago? but im glad they did as i really enjoy crime mystery stuff. im here for it lessgooooo. also, i feel such joy hearing DK do his own episodes and his own thing on the channel. makes me a happy boy.

  • @kylzepolaczkowaty2197
    @kylzepolaczkowaty2197 2 года назад +6

    Not gonna lie
    More branching ideas gives more opportunities to fill up the empty void that is
    Every day life

  • @jack1701e
    @jack1701e 2 года назад +1

    I'm so glad you're doing these officially now!!

  • @JohnQ5
    @JohnQ5 2 года назад +4

    Never heard of this case before.
    You all did a great job detailing it.

  • @dragongirl15dragon94
    @dragongirl15dragon94 Год назад +1

    Great video :) such a sad but fascinating case. Here are a couple of additional interesting facts if you’re interested. In regards to the picture of Louis that was addressed to the mom, Jennie, she did had a brother named Frank Cipriani, who could be “brother Frankie”. The Sodder family had initially suspected him because he lived in Florida. There were witnesses who saw the children get into cars with Florida licence plates. Even the Sodders believed this theory that Jennie’s brother took them because it would’ve been someone they knew. Thank you again for a great video.

  • @ryanbrock9409
    @ryanbrock9409 2 года назад

    DK , your presentation style is excellent and easy to follow . I can’t wait for your next episode

  • @clairehoenecke8330
    @clairehoenecke8330 2 года назад

    I love that you’re covering unsolved mysteries. Those are so much more interesting and more fun to hear you guys theorize and talk about!

  • @tzxazrael
    @tzxazrael 2 года назад +5

    my take on it, after listening to all of DK's presentation, and Bricky's speculations... it was probably a kidnapping, with the fire to throw investigators off the track. i WANT to think the fire chief was probably in on it... but realistically, he probably just didn't like the Sodder's because of small town stuff. as for why the kids never contacted their parents in the later years? maybe they were just lied to. they're kids. if someone they have come to trust tells them "oh no it was a terrible fire, and they all died, that's why we had to take you in... if they were still alive, they would have come to get you." they're probably gonna believe it. i mean it was the 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. even today, you can just tell kids stuff and they'll believe it. as for the photograph of Louie, that might actually just have been real. "Ilil boys" = illinois? A90132 or 35 might have been a zip code ("area" code) but he wasn't sure about it. seems like an already complicated investigation, that was compounded by Sodder's messing with it, and the fire chief's absolute incompetence.
    but that's just me throwing in my armchair "wisdom", right?

    • @Averlest162
      @Averlest162 2 года назад +1

      90132 is also a regiment of allied forces in WWII it could just be a buddy of the oldest boys’ attempting to send a postcard with an inside joke or reference and that was all he could find after returning home

    • @Averlest162
      @Averlest162 2 года назад +1

      It’s extremely likely that the oldest son would’ve befriended other Italian Americans in the military and the similar heritage could account for the lookalike

  • @jacksunaway8194
    @jacksunaway8194 2 года назад

    Just such a good episode you guys kill
    It with every podcast you do ! Love to all 3 of you

  • @telusman
    @telusman 2 года назад

    Great episode!!! Very detailed. Can’t wait for the next one whatever it is!!!

  • @Gakido117
    @Gakido117 2 года назад +2

    Great stuff! Love the energy in this one

  • @musashi3000gt
    @musashi3000gt 2 года назад

    awesome episode. these Detective episodes have alot of heart. definitely helped me get through my workday. thanks guys.

  • @ThomasMck0251
    @ThomasMck0251 2 года назад +2

    This is dope. Gotta say I like the new branch and style. Keep it goin bros.

  • @Ultra_Sauce
    @Ultra_Sauce 2 года назад +8

    Arson only ever results in a conviction if people confess. Do with that information as you will

    • @TheKnizzine
      @TheKnizzine 2 года назад

      Why curse a firebug with this knowlage?

  • @justiron2999
    @justiron2999 2 года назад +2

    I'm enjoying these Sunday mystery videos. It's a nice change of pace. Also I choose to believe that shy is a legit gremlin now with a sweatshop.

  • @fotaho
    @fotaho 2 года назад

    I love seeing you guys branch out into new content

  • @connorsmith1005
    @connorsmith1005 2 года назад

    Amazing episode guys! 👏 can't wait for the next one.

  • @son0fgrim
    @son0fgrim 2 года назад

    wow this has great production.
    im never watching it again.
    ever
    I never need this level of unsolved mystery anxiety in my life ever again.
    congrats.

  • @Quipek
    @Quipek 2 года назад +2

    Amazing Episode! Can’t wait for more!

  • @Raphael_Bizmann
    @Raphael_Bizmann 2 года назад +7

    Sweet another episode of Adeptus Detecticus!

  • @alexvaraderey
    @alexvaraderey 2 года назад

    This new series is superb. Very interesting. Keep up the good work.

  • @griffdowe2816
    @griffdowe2816 2 года назад

    Love this, keep it up with these bizarre cases!

  • @goose_dove
    @goose_dove 2 года назад +1

    A nice surprise to see this series back so quick, they’re great

  • @johnsmithfakename8422
    @johnsmithfakename8422 2 года назад +20

    Considering all I know about how messed up some people can be ... I personally think those kids were kidnapped and sold into slavery.
    The most logical thing I can think of is that the bones smoldered to ash.

    • @samfish2550
      @samfish2550 2 года назад +8

      I think they were offed and dumped. The house being burned down was likely ment to kill the whole family, and when the kids went outside to do their chores they may have been able to notice signs of tampering so it was best to deal with them then and there.

    • @Averlest162
      @Averlest162 2 года назад +2

      @@samfish2550 I also think this is the most likely theory however I see one thing that puts me the slightest bit off of it. Would Maryanne fall asleep on the couch without accounting for her siblings. I know I wouldn’t go to sleep until my siblings had come back inside from putting away the cows

    • @samfish2550
      @samfish2550 2 года назад +1

      @@Averlest162 fair point. If she was in her bed it would be less suspicious since she may have been told to go to bed early since they had chores, that still may be the case but why sleep on the couch.

  • @RipplePink
    @RipplePink 2 года назад +1

    I was genuinely shocked by how good this was. Great work from the most ridiculous three amigos.

  • @Backstabmacro
    @Backstabmacro 2 года назад

    Keep up the good work, everyone! These are a breath of fresh air, true crime often needs the injection of humor to avoid being oppressive.

  • @kegman83
    @kegman83 2 года назад +14

    See here is the thing. Before WWII Mussolini was at war with the Mafia, they werent partners. The reason for his popularity is because he basically went through Italy at the time and murdered almost every Mafia leader. The ones that werent killed or imprisoned fled to America. If anything, the Sodders would be part of the Mafia, not against them. The Sodders were from Sardinia, and Mussolini was incredibly popular in that state at the time of his immigration. I dont know his politics, but it very well could have been George's brother coming to take them back to the old country.

    • @kevyndaumas3804
      @kevyndaumas3804 2 года назад

      i was gonna say that

    • @leovaeg
      @leovaeg Месяц назад

      and it would explain why there were no signs of struggle/kidnapping, they went with their BROTHER who they knew!

  • @rodermoonwalker2068
    @rodermoonwalker2068 2 года назад +1

    This is the only true crime podcast I listen too. Y'all are fantastic

  • @jonathanhamilton6190
    @jonathanhamilton6190 2 года назад +1

    I’ve never realized I’ve been watching you guys for over a year now

  • @drrhino_
    @drrhino_ 2 года назад

    DK you are crushing this, big double thumbs up!

  • @thomaswilson8022
    @thomaswilson8022 2 года назад

    I'm slowly liking these stories more than the 40k content. Outstanding job

  • @kittycypher
    @kittycypher 2 года назад +1

    My favorite true crime/mystery RUclips channel. ^^

  • @therudecanadian8068
    @therudecanadian8068 2 года назад +3

    The Detective Ridiculous shirt should just be the regular shirt except with the skull wearing a fedora and shades

  • @heliummaster6628
    @heliummaster6628 Год назад +1

    this series seems like something someone would joke about happening in a parallel universe. *AND I LOVE IT*

  • @lastsurvivingemothefox9797
    @lastsurvivingemothefox9797 2 года назад +9

    That was really good! Surprisingly into the Detective ridiculous schtick

  • @madmysticmeister
    @madmysticmeister 2 года назад

    Awesome podcast, enjoyable as always

  • @scottphillips8607
    @scottphillips8607 2 года назад +2

    Ignore the Mafia - the fact the lights were still on and the door remained unlocked doesn't sound like the kids made it back inside. This is what I suspect - the fire was supposed to look like accident, but they ran into the kids outside and decided to take them so that they couldn't wake their parents up. The hope was that it would be chalked up to the bodies burning away in the fire, so their disappearances would be ignored. The guy who was supposed to cut the line screwed up and cut the phone instead of power, so the remaining family escaped. The reason I believe this is because it was specifically the kids that stayed downstairs were the ones that went missing. The 17 year old who didn't go outside was asleep on the couch and made it. I can see a reason why the younger kids wouldn't go to the windows if they were there, but the 14 year old? Especially in that time when 14 year olds had a lot more responsibility on average. I don't think it was the mafia - it's more likely that it was local. It took the fire department 6 hours to get there. I know they had to mobilize and all that, but it was a small town and the house was only 2.5miles away. Even assuming it took 2 hours for the guy who reported it to find the fire chief, it then took 4 more hours to call people and get to a place 2.5 miles away? In a small town you could drive around and pick up people and get there in an hour in all likelihood. That's startlingly incompetent. Then it was the fire chief who hid the cow liver to "try and give them closure." Seems more likely to me that it was to try to get them to stop searching. Maybe the fire department was that astronomically incompetent, but there's a point where incompetence cannot adequately describe what can be atrributed to malice. It was also the fire chief who suggested the bones burned away in the fire. This was what, like a year after another family just so happened to all die in a fire? I don't remember how long that difference was, but perhaps that other family was also critical of Mussolini. It's not like the fire chief would have joined the force as fire chief - he should know that bones remain, even as fragments, especially because of the previous case. And if he really was that incompetent, how did he get the job? Perhaps because he would turn a blind eye or mobilize slowly for certain fires? If there really was strong community support for Mussolini, then it's not unreasonable that several people could be in on it. One of my favorite sayings is "where there's smoke, there's fire" because it highlights the fact that there is never an instance where something happens for no reason. There's too much smoke around this fire for it to not be foul play. Given that, there must be a motive. The mafia was organized - this doesn't meet their modus operandi as that expert said. They held influence through fear - there would be some inkling they werr behind it. But, if there were a group of extremists in town that wanted to kill people and not get caught, then "electrical" fires could do that for them. And if you were a part of such a group, it would sure help if the fire chief was in on it, wouldn't it?

  • @wyattkerper2024
    @wyattkerper2024 2 года назад +6

    13:02 that's pretty believable a lot of farmers feed their animals in the early morning and sometime in the late evening

  • @tompeck5495
    @tompeck5495 2 года назад

    Amazing work as always! I'd recommend the dyatlov pass incident if you're looking for more mysteries.

  • @From-North-Jersey
    @From-North-Jersey 2 года назад +2

    I would hate to actually anyone, but microwaves were classified technology and only existed as part of radar systems in the 1940s. They didn't become stand alone appliances until the 70s. Although the radar range was available in the 50s it was part of an electric range or oven but it didn't nuke stuff like a microwave does, it just aimed a microwave emitter at your roast beef or casserole while the regular elements were also heating it.
    Other than one little mishap about a microwave not melting in a housefire in the 40s it was flawless.

  • @silomenezes2935
    @silomenezes2935 4 месяца назад

    I teared up a bit hearing this story. I feel terrible for this poor family and what they went through. I can't imagine how horrible it must have felt to them.

  • @Marlfoxmokkan
    @Marlfoxmokkan 2 года назад +1

    Dude this was so interesting, I'm so into this series.
    The whole time I was singing country roads to myself though lol

  • @Skellington77
    @Skellington77 2 года назад +3

    MY BOY DK BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE BANGERS

  • @alexv1387
    @alexv1387 Год назад +1

    As a firefighter that F.J. Morris is the most suspicious and weird thing about the case

  • @CadianColors
    @CadianColors 2 года назад +2

    My theory is that someone involved with the mafia that knew about the plans to burn the house, took the kids to save them from the fire (they didn't realize the wires weren't cut correctly and assumed the kids would probably die in the fire)

  • @charleshalcomb5638
    @charleshalcomb5638 2 года назад +2

    Now we just need a video for Shy to host...

  • @nelsondisalvatore9812
    @nelsondisalvatore9812 2 года назад +29

    Just please for the love of god dont make this podcast into a serialkillers top ten hot list. I am done with the "who is your favorite serial killer thing".

  • @paoloferretti9356
    @paoloferretti9356 2 года назад

    Nice one, i like this new format

  • @UserRedZero
    @UserRedZero 2 года назад +3

    _The return of KD, Mortar and Coy_

  • @Juno_Colchis
    @Juno_Colchis 2 года назад

    Ngl, the extra 20 minutes really does help the topic. The Dan Cooper one felt a little too short, but this felt complete. Excited to see what DK comes up with next month.

  • @alienlordgamin5339
    @alienlordgamin5339 2 года назад +4

    “This is what happens in West Virginia”.
    He is right right DK, just look up what the fire signaling system is in the mountainous regions. If you’ve heard. Nuclear siren, it’s something like that.

  • @tomaspabon2484
    @tomaspabon2484 2 года назад +1

    1:19:26 Ah you had me worried for a second, Bricky. Almost a whole episode about Italians and not one wildly offensive slur. Saved it at the end, chief.

  • @ManWithYellowPants
    @ManWithYellowPants 2 года назад +1

    I think this is getting buried by youtube. Had to check your channel to see that it was uploaded.

  • @harrydonnellan2538
    @harrydonnellan2538 2 года назад

    This series is something I did not know I needed, but BE DAMNED I do now.

  • @forestflyr9940
    @forestflyr9940 2 года назад

    Damn i am already hooked on detective ridiculous! Yhall being heat with this!

  • @timon6759
    @timon6759 2 года назад +2

    The greatest revenge is to make your enemy's grief last a lifetime because then he'd be unable to fight