Since the jade shadows damage changes there is some changes to what progenitor to aim for. 1. Magnetic is now king 2. AoE weapons like Zarr, Bramma, Envoy use toxin progenitor. Only exception is Ogris with Heat progenitor 3. Beam weapons can have a choice between magnetic or heat. I prefer heat because the procs scale with your heat damage and also your base damage.
You made me want to reroll my Tetra riven and... I've spent 400k kuva for this : + Crit damage + Crit chance + Multishot + recoil (pretty harmless) I couldn't believe it. I guess I should farm some lich again because my Tetra only has 25% toxin.
I've done spawning with all the elements. It's literally just easier to go toxic or heat progenitor for most weapons. If you are choosing to do in other elements, you probably have enough to mastery of the damage in the game to not care
after watching this movie i get tenet tetra and tenet arca plasmor. both are awesome but tetra is more different. with helminth 5 purple argon shards i get 14k damage and 249k radial damage with tetra . the best gun...
Thx for the info, as of writing this there is a 59% toxic tenet livia on ergo offering, and it's going to be my first tenet melee weapon to have actually!.
sat there looking at a CC/CD/MS/no neg tetra riven vs a CD/Heat/something meh/Negative Magazine (48.7% !) one for like 30 minutes a few weeks ago, *very* glad i took the latter option, maybe ill keep rolling sometime for more good positives, but god damn i can spam the thing now, goes from worse ammo sustain than a bramma once you consider the pickup of only half a mag, to one of the better ammo sustain kuva/tenet AoE's, while mogging them all for damage
Thank you @WispGraxx much appreciation for sharing your knowledge! I watched till the end and was interested in your thoughts on the Tenet Livia. I had 27% Electricity, went and checked Perrin Sequence and he has a 59% Toxin Livia available for the next 3 days! Also have a heavy attack efficiency, cc and cc while sliding Riven. It sounds primo, hoping it is! Thanks again champ keep up your awesome content 👍🏽👌🏽
If u want the most damage out of your nukor you go heat nukor and cascadia flare. The heat procs stack up ridiculously fast and u can armor strip with miniscule corrosive
Honestly after making the karak and theorizing, its more of a custom beam weapon. Giving that things massive punch through and status is fun. But i do after the weapon is much lower is quality than the rest of the Kuva list
Bit newer to the game, MR 12. So far I've gotten my nukor with heat, hek, and tenet plasmor, I'm kinda clueless on what aoe weapon I should go for since I don't have one yet really. Any tips?
@@lucasribas4664 yea 100% i should probably pin a new comment about it. Just know magnetic on almost all weapons except aoe weapons, those still use toxin. Beam weapons can use either magnetic or heat. Both are super strong
Hey I didn't watch the whole video so sorry if you mentionned this somewhere but i am about to get the Tenet Livia and I was wondering is it good to get electricity as a progenitor to build the weapon for melee influence? Or should i stick to Cold/Toxin and build electricity with Stormbringer? Cool list btw
What ammo problems are you having with the Bramma? I still run mine regularly and don't have any issues (all I do is run arrow mutation and only shot at groups of enemies). As long as I pick up enemy drops it's felt basically as good as ever to me.
On survival or interception its fine. Any other mission the group of enemies that you are referencing simply doesnt exist as much because the enemy density is way way lower in the rest of the mission types. Using bramma in a survival is absolutely fine. No issues whatsoever
@@westarrr he said he used it as a primer never said its exactly corrosive heat lol, think u misunderstood that one. its good as a primer tho cant rly argue, overall a fun weapon
You can subsume on a warframe energized munitions for better ammo economy and put a ammo magazine mod or a mutation mod in the exilus slot that’s what I do with mine and I barely if not ever run out of ammo in a mission
Everyone talking about magnetic for nukor but i went impact and use hemorrhage for 2 stats caused by the progenitor. Is there a reason why magnetic is better than what I have right now? (Im kinda new) Would magnetic be better because then you can build viral (which I admit I do not have on my nukor right now, I just put viral on my weapons) Btw i really like your personality and content Moug!
magnetic is generally used because it's a combined element that takes up 2 mod slots for it to work normally, which you skip, and allows you to do magnetic+radiation+viral+electric or same but the last element is heat
For the glaxion couldn't you get toxin as the predecessor (or however they are called) and then mod for heat making it viral heat? Viral may be absolutely useless but it turns it into a heat weapons, you have better options (phage, or phantasma even) but you could make it work
as i said, in order to get viral heat with your idea you would still need to mod for both toxin and cold before modding for heat because otherwise your heat mod will combine with thee toxin from the predecessor
I wonder what you consider "early game" lol, because I don't think HM is worth it until Steel Path (tics take time or something like that), but then again alot has changed with the AoE nerf (R.I.P Tenno Space Program). TBH, so much has changed it's the very reason I'm watching this video.
Hey brother, i've noticed that you are Greek. It's so nice seeing someone from my country have a name in the warframe community. Keep going. Love your content❤
Since the jade shadows damage changes there is some changes to what progenitor to aim for.
1. Magnetic is now king
2. AoE weapons like Zarr, Bramma, Envoy use toxin progenitor. Only exception is Ogris with Heat progenitor
3. Beam weapons can have a choice between magnetic or heat. I prefer heat because the procs scale with your heat damage and also your base damage.
Magnetic is default best now??
i think that for melee electric is better now
@@simonesata Oh okay yeah Tenet Exec with electric and melee influence sounds fun
@@lerosallyn9279
Apparently because of bonus damage to overguard and the amount of eximus with overguard you encounter
Thank you so much for the update Moug
Moug is truly the mougest moug of all moug. Keep mouging, brother!
You made me want to reroll my Tetra riven and... I've spent 400k kuva for this :
+ Crit damage
+ Crit chance
+ Multishot
+ recoil (pretty harmless)
I couldn't believe it. I guess I should farm some lich again because my Tetra only has 25% toxin.
Time to get a 60% 🔥
never expected so much kohm praise in the incarnon meta, showcase when?
Ayeee i grabbed the nukor for my first, and couldnt decide what primary i wanted. Ty for this!!!
one of the attractives of the kuva seer imo is it can proc viral corrosive with 2 different damage instances
I've done spawning with all the elements.
It's literally just easier to go toxic or heat progenitor for most weapons. If you are choosing to do in other elements, you probably have enough to mastery of the damage in the game to not care
Or you are praying to Lotus to give you the damn ephemera
Tenet Glaxion... if it chains like Torid Incarnon then the new Cold damage 10 stacks changes might actually make it a fun freeze-the-room weapon.
Lol it does
It can do just that if you put Shivering Contagion on it or your Sentinel gun
after watching this movie i get tenet tetra and tenet arca plasmor. both are awesome but tetra is more different. with helminth 5 purple argon shards i get 14k damage and 249k radial damage with tetra . the best gun...
Glad to see someone knows how broken Kuva Hind is
Yoo das crazy moug finally revealed his dungeon🤯🤯
Maybe this will motivate me to finish that Lucy I’ve been keeping alive for 4 months
Kuva Zarr.. no ammo issues if you just reload after every shot just like Kuva Tonkor.
Thx for the info, as of writing this there is a 59% toxic tenet livia on ergo offering, and it's going to be my first tenet melee weapon to have actually!.
I'm a kuva karak fan😔 i just like the look of the weapon, hopefully the ak they add in wf 1999 will be a better replacement
sat there looking at a CC/CD/MS/no neg tetra riven vs a CD/Heat/something meh/Negative Magazine (48.7% !) one for like 30 minutes a few weeks ago, *very* glad i took the latter option, maybe ill keep rolling sometime for more good positives, but god damn i can spam the thing now, goes from worse ammo sustain than a bramma once you consider the pickup of only half a mag, to one of the better ammo sustain kuva/tenet AoE's, while mogging them all for damage
Hi, like your videos, can you please recommend which element I should go for Kuva Nukor? Is the Heat still number one or should I go Magnetic?
theyre equal, use any or both
Thank you @WispGraxx much appreciation for sharing your knowledge! I watched till the end and was interested in your thoughts on the Tenet Livia. I had 27% Electricity, went and checked Perrin Sequence and he has a 59% Toxin Livia available for the next 3 days! Also have a heavy attack efficiency, cc and cc while sliding Riven. It sounds primo, hoping it is! Thanks again champ keep up your awesome content 👍🏽👌🏽
I need to clean up my kuva and tenet weapons im missing 4 kuva and most of the tenet weapons
Tenet Plinx alternative shot has awesome damage .
Love your content!
I really hope we get a tenet convectrix, sonicor, and kuva vulkar & buzlok tbh
I think Diplos should be higher o. The list, is way better than defronte for profit taker
This video made me Moug all over the place
Twin stubbas are not that bad, feel stronger than the diplos to me but both are poor mans dual toxocyst though.
as long as you enjoy it, then it's good
Mouggiiing to the moug
Damn, is this tierlist for endurance run? Cause kuva karak is fine in sp
Yooo face reveal lets gooo
I still love the Brahma, but can only be used either my mirage with energized munitions
I beg DE to rebuff the ammo on it
Is Secondary Encumber worth using on the Kuva Nukor? I have Blast/Radiation/Corrosive so it seemed like it would help Galvanized Shot do more damage.
If u want the most damage out of your nukor you go heat nukor and cascadia flare. The heat procs stack up ridiculously fast and u can armor strip with miniscule corrosive
Chakkur is my favorite tbh. I got used to the speed and use a fast secondary to compensate
moug do you have a build for the kuva hind and tenet flux rifle in another video or can you link the builds?
Sick
Honestly after making the karak and theorizing, its more of a custom beam weapon. Giving that things massive punch through and status is fun.
But i do after the weapon is much lower is quality than the rest of the Kuva list
hi (hi)
⚠️Warning⚠️
⬇️Bramma copers ahead❗️
Bit newer to the game, MR 12. So far I've gotten my nukor with heat, hek, and tenet plasmor, I'm kinda clueless on what aoe weapon I should go for since I don't have one yet really. Any tips?
Hey man, im watching this video after de rework of the elemental damage, do you think there is any significant change to it right now?
@@lucasribas4664 yea 100% i should probably pin a new comment about it. Just know magnetic on almost all weapons except aoe weapons, those still use toxin. Beam weapons can use either magnetic or heat. Both are super strong
@@WispGraxxThanks! Im looking foward to test them!
its sad to see how the bramma has fallen. even with fucking ammo it just.. it doesn't feel the same at ALL
I just tried the kuva karak in the simulator and had no problems, no riven and no priming, corrupt heavy gunner lvl 195 sp
Omg a cam
"slow and feels sluggish"...almost like the stahlta? xD
You knew that 3 day later you will have to update this list,don't you😂
no i dont, i talked about the new ones
Hey I didn't watch the whole video so sorry if you mentionned this somewhere but i am about to get the Tenet Livia and I was wondering is it good to get electricity as a progenitor to build the weapon for melee influence? Or should i stick to Cold/Toxin and build electricity with Stormbringer? Cool list btw
very good weapon its just the melee stance is the issue
weapon is too slow to utilize melee influence
What ammo problems are you having with the Bramma? I still run mine regularly and don't have any issues (all I do is run arrow mutation and only shot at groups of enemies). As long as I pick up enemy drops it's felt basically as good as ever to me.
On survival or interception its fine. Any other mission the group of enemies that you are referencing simply doesnt exist as much because the enemy density is way way lower in the rest of the mission types. Using bramma in a survival is absolutely fine. No issues whatsoever
Wait Flux? That wasn't even in your top 10 vid?
what progenitor for tenet envoy?
@@Sir_Wobs toxin is best
Whats the current best progen for Tetra?
@@sleepy3474 magnetic, almost all weapons want magnetic atm
if u could say which element we should get on each that would be great
Its always heat or toxin
Heat on Tenet Flux Rifle, Kuva Ogris and DPS Kuva Nukor, magnetic for Primer Kuva Nukor. Everything else is toxin.
@@WispGraxxmagnetic for nukor
@@mikeD1234 only if used for priming, heat nukor for damage
@@bezovrinho ...pepega
Will we get a full hind and flux rifle build with no buffs?
Sure
@@WispGraxx yippee! As someone who plays a big dumb face tank qorvex I appreciate the lack of ability buffs for a weapon build
heyyyyyyyyyyyy you look nice
Huh what, a kohm as primary primer with corrosive heat? I need to see that!
idk where u got that part from "primer with corrosive heat" lol
@@Huh-0.1 14:47
@@westarrr he said he used it as a primer never said its exactly corrosive heat lol, think u misunderstood that one. its good as a primer tho cant rly argue, overall a fun weapon
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Wait so Bramma sucks?? I just got this as my second Lich weapon thinking it spanked.
the damage is nuts it just has 0 ammo. Energized munitions and only energized munitions saves it
Best aoe?
Ogris
ZAW .
Αδερφέ είσαι σίγουρα Έλληνας
@@FeretoTsitsiCoco karra binna kuva emetos
I'm a proselyte of the Mighty Seer.
You can subsume on a warframe energized munitions for better ammo economy and put a ammo magazine mod or a mutation mod in the exilus slot that’s what I do with mine and I barely if not ever run out of ammo in a mission
Based tier list. But don't be sad guys every weapon could be good.
every weapon is SP viable
Bramma related video
ruclips.net/video/EO1-LlUcknU/видео.htmlsi=8G7Ida0gGzFSKRqY
hey wonder if u could make a tier list of best necramech killing weapons?
Everyone talking about magnetic for nukor but i went impact and use hemorrhage for 2 stats caused by the progenitor. Is there a reason why magnetic is better than what I have right now? (Im kinda new) Would magnetic be better because then you can build viral (which I admit I do not have on my nukor right now, I just put viral on my weapons)
Btw i really like your personality and content Moug!
magnetic is generally used because it's a combined element that takes up 2 mod slots for it to work normally, which you skip, and allows you to do magnetic+radiation+viral+electric or same but the last element is heat
good vid, im glad to see some tenet grigori appreciation
Just picked up a 59% toxic Tenet livia, didn't know that thing about the slash proc
Get electricity so u can get a influence build
For the glaxion couldn't you get toxin as the predecessor (or however they are called) and then mod for heat making it viral heat? Viral may be absolutely useless but it turns it into a heat weapons, you have better options (phage, or phantasma even) but you could make it work
as i said, in order to get viral heat with your idea you would still need to mod for both toxin and cold before modding for heat because otherwise your heat mod will combine with thee toxin from the predecessor
@@WispGraxx right, forgot about the status order completely, sorry
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I wonder what you consider "early game" lol, because I don't think HM is worth it until Steel Path (tics take time or something like that), but then again alot has changed with the AoE nerf (R.I.P Tenno Space Program). TBH, so much has changed it's the very reason I'm watching this video.
MR 8-9, just unlocked the war within, hunter munitions is absolutely worth it
Tier is bad Drakgoon is terrible it's D aka fodder
"Battery weapons suck"
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Hey brother, i've noticed that you are Greek. It's so nice seeing someone from my country have a name in the warframe community. Keep going. Love your content❤
Kuva ogris build?? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Should I be getting the ogris with innate heat instead of toxin?
heat ye
@@Huh-0.1 damn I just got a toxin lich for it 💀
@@baconbitz7804 not end of the world lol
@@Huh-0.1 I guess not. It’s still a bit of a pain though since idrk how I could build it for heat now
@@baconbitz7804 can send build on dsc
Brah I thought you were black hehe.. Nice tier list💪
First kuva weapon was my trusty kuva kohm