I had my Indian Bobber parked right next to a brand new Harley 48 at the weekend, everyone was looking at the Indian, I had 2 people come up when I was getting off and on the bike and ask me about it, no one even noticed the Harely.
totally yeah, indians are unusual to see, I prefer the sporty, but LOVE to go look at and talk to all indians and indian riders. lots of fun, as they are a refreshing site. so many clones! but I happen to prefer the mechanics of hd,
Dexter x I was thinking about getting one, when did you start having problems and was it covered or did you take a loss? Is it a known issue that you dealt with?
I have a 2015 Indian Scout. It’s my second bike ever. My first, which is still have, was a 2016 Harley Street 500. I love the Scout. It gets soooo many compliments, even in stock form. It’s soooo fast. Handles amazing, feels really light with a low center of gravity. Gas mileage is pretty awesome too, usually right around 50mpg. Cruises great, does 100mph without breaking a sweat. Sooo love this bike.
Tuesdaysgonewtw were you looking at the right motorcycle? Tractor technology motor with little Power. big air filter sticking out on the side. Indian bobber make that Harley look outdated .
I would love to have the Scout Bobber, but it looks like a very small bike. I’m only 5’11” and it looks like I would be very cramped up on it. The Scout just has to giant fenders that just doesn’t look good. And what is up with the ginormous out of place exhaust?
akaredcrossbow exhaust is made to meet EPA emission regulations. Harleys don’t like to talk about that as they don’t really play by the rules but aftermarket parts are always available for this bobber. Only way to tell how you feel about the bobber or regular scout is to pay a visit to your local dealer and see how you like it in person.
FatStogie yes I know, first thing to go when I got new Harley’s. At least Harley stock exhaust is decent looking and can be left on for some time. Indian Scout Bobber looks like their selling the exhaust and the bike is included. The one problem is not much to choose for exhaust except slip ons. I haven’t seen a good aftermarket exhaust system for Indian, they all looked pieced together with parts that don’t fit and that just doesn’t look good.
From someone who has owned 4 Sporsters, I sold my Sporty and bought an Indian Scout Sixty, great bike and they can be customized easily. It will take a bit before the aftermarket catchs up but still lots out there. The Indian Scout is faster and smother by far.
Rode 3 Indians at the dealer yesterday. I'm selling my sportster. In the 08 models they had a recall on the gas tank threads for the cap. This allowed a leak and my tank rusted allowing a bunch of crap to go in the filter. Wasn't caught soon enough. Bikes only got 11k miles and all they will do for me is clean the threads in the tank so it seals like it should. Pump kit at hd is almost $300. Fuk hd, I'm buying a scout. Better bike in every way. Made my sportster feel like a moped. 60mph on a scout u are at 2950 rpm. Sportster is rattling ur fillings out at that speed. Dreams over for me hd. I'll be drifting on an Indian instead of dragging pegs at the grocery store.
Tbh in many aspects of reality...Indian scout bobber is a far batter bike with a refined engine performance,better pickup,looks and built quality.... But one thing that no other bikes on this planet can ever replace is...the Thrill and experience of riding a Harley and the aura it comes with it!! The sound of starting and running a Harley sounds heavenly!! I’m planning to get either a Harley 48 or an Indian scout bobber!! Can’t wait!!!
i heard you at 3:00 say 11 thousand and not hundred. some crazy CC's lol...just got my 2019 indian scout bobber 4 days ago..Im in love with it...amazing machine
I agree with most of the comments, you get a lot more with the Scout than you do for the 48. The 48 does have more customization, but that’s it, but with taxes and so on they’re basically the same price. I think another good comparison would be the new Triumph Bobber Black.
I do like how both bikes look in their own way. I've ridden both and it's the Indian by a mile. The thing is an absolute monster. With a good set of aftermarket pipes it sounds like Satan. I love that bike.
Looked at both bikes for several months.No experience.Sat on both.The scout first.I was sold.Then I sat on the 48.Well when I transported my new bike home.I started it up for the first time.That vibration and raw feel made me confident that Indian wasn't for me.
This really can't be overstated enough - it really is just personal preference. I bought the Indian Scout ABS - just always wanted one, and I loved the more retro style. Have ridden it for a few months. I love it, and will own it forever. However, dad rides Harleys, and I can say that my second bike would be a HD. There is a more aggressive mechanical sound and feel that you don't get on the Indian. The Indian has more of a hum than a rumble. You almost expect to hear a turbo spin up. Not knocking the Indian at all, but it just depends on what you want to get out of it. Some days I feel more Indian, some days more HD. I really don't think you can go wrong either way.
The EVO motor in the Harley is such a fun motor to ride. The rubber mounts let it shakes just enough that it feels like an old school ride, I wish the sportster had a 6spd. The look, feel, and sound of the sportster are just so good. This is a hard choice but I’d have to go with the HD.
Daniel... I recently moved to Reno from Tucson after spending most of my life there and now find myself watching your vlogs to get a little taste of home. Hoping that you can vlog some rides out to some of my top places to ride like: Lemmon, Kitt Peak, Madera Canyon, Arivaca, Sonoita/Parker Canyon Lake, Gates Pass/McCain Loop, Reddington Pass, Saddlebrooke, Oracle.... the list goes on and on. Tucson is a gem for motorcycles. Looking forward to seeing more of it through your GoPro.
I test rode both bikes, I own the Bronze Smoke Indian Scout Bobber. It was a night and day difference in how much better the Indian felt, and c'mon who doesn't love HP and high revving bikes? Not to mention, it's nice having everyone stare and drool knowing you own something different and that it's not just another Harley on the road.
The dual front brake Triumph Bobber Black hitting the dealerships in March of 2018 will be The One to compare to the Scout Bobber. Until then, the Scout motor and dual front discs push it ahead performance wise. Style wise, I love the Triumph, not that the Scout styling isn't cool as hell too. Harley just isn't competitive outside the riders (and there are many) who want to deeply customize their rides.
I would have to go Indian, one of the major reasons would be tank size. I don't feel like stopping at the gas station every 80 miles. But I do love the look of the 48 don't get me wrong.
A friend of mine had a sportster. He spent a little bit of cash on his bike and the speed that bike obtained was unbelievable. Faster then my old vic highball.
The Scout may be just a little bit higher in price, but you get more bang for your money with the Scout. The Scout has a modern overhead cam, liquid cooled engine to begin with. It also has a 6-speed overdrive transmission. That means it's cooler to ride when it's hot out, and with the 6-speed it most likely gets better fuel mileage. The lower seat height on the scout means better handling with the lower center of gravity. The Scout is really a bad ass when it comes to power, as it will blow away a Sportster any day. The only advantage the Sportster has is it's potato-potato idle sound that Harley riders love.
Good comment. I like the style of both Harley and Indian but i dislike the sound if Indian bikes. I hear a engine whine sound from and Indian and i don't like. I know it sounds like i'm being nit picky but it not something i want to hear from my bike when i ride it. Indians are nice powerful bikes more powerful than a Harley though im not looking for power. My first bike will be a Harley 48 and lite on i'll buy a Indian FTR1200 and that if Indian approves the FTR prototype.
I don't know what you mean about the noise. My buddy has a Scout, and we've rode together a lot. Haven't heard any unusual sounds from his Scout. I ride an Indian Springfield, and it basically sounded like a "Harley Milwaukee 8" until I had it upgraded to Stage 2 with Rush pipes. Now it sounds like a Milwaukee 8 on steroids. I like the heavier bikes like the Indian Chief series and bikes like the Harley Street Glides & Road Kings, because I like to tour.
Here a link to the engine whine. Listen to it when he revs or passes by. When it comes to cruiser i only like the HD Softail slim because it gives of a Harley WLA look, I couldn't see myself on a Harley/Indian touring bike. I just don't like the look of them. If I was to get a touring bike id probably go for a Ural motorcycle, which comes with a sidecar.
Friend had a Ural. He had quality issues with it, and he seemed to think it was under-powered. I can trust a Harley or Indian, and they have lots of dealers all over the USA. In 2013 Indian did not have a dealership in Indiana, but now I have 3 dealerships within 50 miles from my home. Polaris really put life back into the Indian brand, but it cost them the Victory brand.
John Ayres If Ural have a bad reliability then I just add a side car to my Harley/Indian. Idk why I didn't think of that. Back in 2014 I wanted to buy a Victory Gunner but I gave on it since I was fresh out of highschool and I needed to save money for college. Sucks to see them go. I think it was bad marketing that killed them off.
I have a Sporty now, not a 48, my next bike will be another HD. I am waiting to see what the next Sporty release will be, similar to what HD did with the Dyna's turning them into Softails with upgraded motors and everything else I feel the next Sporty should follow the same path only smaller to compete with the Indian Scout on the spec sheet
I love the red Scout with tan seats, but the problem is, so few Indian dealers, Harley dealers are more accessible. I was looking into buying a Harley Sportster 48 new from an L.A. area Harley-Davidson dealer. The MSRP on that 48 is $11,299, the only added option was the security option which was about $400. The out-the-door price I was quoted was $14,600 & change. I was stunned at the price, it seemed high to me, especially since I read that motorcycle sales have been sagging and Harley was offering financing deals in April. Is this par for the course?
Switching from Super Sport to a bobber style I can't decide between the two. I'm leaning towards the Indian mainly because of the Horse power. I was really leaning towards a Softail, but love the looks of both the Indian and the HD 48
They are both beautiful bikes! It doesn't matter what you choose. This HD is Better than Indian and vise versa has to go. The only thing that matters is yourself. Don't get caught up to what everyone is riding. Be your own person! Pick what you want and ENJOY THE HECK OUT OF IT. RIDE SAFE!
rode both, preferred the hd as far as fitment and style, and road feel. both are good bikes, hey, some people like different things, pos is in the eye of the beholder. you also look at resale, parts availability, dealer locations, the time tested sportster platform and engine, my last one clocked over 100k. they are good bikes
@@davelafontaine1709 I'd agree , like 'em both. Personally I've always gotten along fine with HD , but as you say , it's all in what the person likes. We all ride , and love it for what it is , regardless of type or brand. Be safe ,folks.
I bought a 2019 Indian scout bobber, and i absolutely love it. My only complaint is that the seat kind of sucks, it's very hard but it naturally is going to take some time to break in. But it's definitely quick, Handles really well, and gets plenty of attention.
I must say! They are both nice bikes! I am a little bias because i have a 2014 48 which btw love the wheels more than the 2018 version... now I bought the harley not because is a better bike! I truly think indian is could be a better bike! I bought a harley because i wanted a bike i can play with, customize, plus cant beat a 48 sound rocking some V&H shorts! Love my shakie bike and the thin profile! I do hate the small 2.2 gal tank on 48! Esthetically is fantastic! For long rides it sucks!
I bought the 48. It may have more flaws and less tech, but I did enough research to find out that the harley frame is made of steel and the the indian frame is aluminum. If the harley is easier to fix and customize and wouldnt literally snap on me... ill go with the 48
ISB handles well compared to the HD48. I used to have an ISB, trade it in for 48, I have no choice because it became very expensive for me. There's no motorcycle shop around my area that has the right knowledge in installing aftermarket parts. There's a little to none after market parts to put on the ISB in the US. So your choice of making it your "own" is slim. The 48 on the other hand has tons of aftermarket parts that you can put on the bike.
I like some of the Indians quite a bit but one thing that may be an issue is how far the nearest dealer is from you if something happens to the bike and it needs repairs? There are 4 Harley dealers within 70 miles of me and not a single Indian dealer?
John Ayres Don't get me wrong I'd love to have an Indian I think they are beautiful bikes! But having 4 dealers close to your home is great what happens if your on a trip and need a dealer? With todays bikes its most likely not going to be an issue? But things happen? I like knowing just about anywhere in the US I'm never far from a dealer if I need one.
I'm really not worried. I have roadside assistance from being a member is "Indian Rider's Group", so that eases my mind. Actually if you do a dealer search on the Indian web site you'll find a lot of dealers, and they keep opening new ones. In Indiana they didn't have any dealerships in Indiana in 2014, but now there's dealerships all over the state. Two new ones opened last year. Indian is cutting into Harley's market share by double digits now, and actually that's great for American consumers since Harley is making better bikes now with refinements and new models.
Hey Dan i love your channel and videos! I was wondering how you would compare this to a Harley 48, i sat on one at a dealer today and sadly there wasn't any sportsters to try. Would you have a bit more insight as to what would be different and which is better to purchase?
I didn’t have a 48, but I had a Roadster which was also a 1200. Just got my Scout (not a bobber) 2 days ago. I loved them both. But my wife likes to ride with me so that influenced what I got-should have stuck with the Fatboy for that. Having an extra gear is huge, especially getting on a highway. The Scout is a little longer and two up is easier and better, even with the slightly smaller engine. If I could have a pure bobber just for me, it would be the Indian. I love the Sportster line, but I think the Scout line is just better. The accessories will catch up as sales increase.
Im going to get a bike this week and I don't know which one to get. I want the 48 with the 4.5 gallon tank upgrade And the Harley Davidson name but I like the specs and the price on the scout but it's a name that has been switching companies And you can not upgrade the tank or do many modifications
i have a 2018 indian scout bobber, thunder black, no abs, dont realky neex it not worth the 1200 more, have a few upgrades, new motherroad custom indian tattoo leather tractor seat, blacked out led headlight, rear 180 michelin scorcher 32(yes a harley nobby tire matches the 130 front) radiant gp shortys slip ons( you would never know they are slip ons) me and about 7 of my boys go on rides here in NorCal , they all have really bad ass Harley’s.. When we stop to grab a drink of ..... water.. EVERYONE seems to gravitate to my Bobber .. always getting compliments on it , its a very rare looking bike , a lot of people are saying that they never seen a bike like this, and they own Harley’s .. plus its fast as fuck .. very happy with my Bobber , $11,800 OTD w/1134 miles on it (practically new) couldn’t be fuckin happier !!
On paper it's hard to pick HD over Indian. But you can build a sportster with just an engine and all aftermarket parts. Something to consider. Comparing bobber style though, it's all about looks and this is tough. Indian has 100hp but it's made higher in the rev range thanks to that liquid cooled engine. HD has always been about low end where most riders feel the pull. I believe I saw another comparison video and due to those differences they are with less than a second of time for 0-60 (Indian being faster).
Red Solo Cup , agreed, Indian is .7 seconds faster 0-60 for 2015 model. The high horse power and rev range will definitely help in the long run. . A lot can change in that time though. I do wish my sportster had a 6th gear. Below are the rear wheel stats for 15' Sportster; 65.16 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm /60.78 hp @ 5800 rpm Scout; 63.53 lb-ft @ 5900 rpm / 84.88 hp @ 7900 rpm .
Jason Duerr yeah but it’s all off the shelf stuff for Harley so it makes no difference because you just end up with the same parts on your Harley that someone else has . I don’t care about aftermarket parts . Either way I don’t buy off the shelf . One off custom parts are the only true custom aftermarket parts .
That's a good question. HD has a lot of volume and availability. I imagine the prices between HD and Indian for repair are probably really similar. Indian probably takes longer for major service, especially if you consider the distance you need to travel for a dealer. This scout is damn good looking.
I'd get the Indian Scout with fenders that protect the radiator and keep me from wearing a skunk stripe in the rain. A passenger and cargo can also go along if necessary all for about the same price AND they come with clear coat and shiny bits. I'll take the Jade green thank you. One thing the Harley has going for it is simplicity. No radiator or valves to maintain. 2 gallon tank and lack of ability to carry anything make it impractical for anything beyond a bar hopper. I do like the headlight on the Indian Bobber.
I would have to go Indian, one of the major reasons would be tank size. I don't feel like stopping at the gas station every 80 miles. But I do love the look of the 48 don't get me wrong.
@@rolandjosef7961 no i ended up getting a '19 harley street bob because they gave me $0 down and double what my trade in was worth. I still love the bobber and would LOVE to add it to my garage, but I also think the challenger will be the next edition.
We can compare and nitpick about each bike and all but I’ve thrown a leg over both and the Indian just felt awkward to me..not sure if it was how low I sat or leg position or what but I prefer the 48 and dig how customizable it is vs the Indian...
I think the scout bobber is a level above the sportster with such a horsepower difference and 6 speeds. The scout 60 has similar HP numbers and 5 speeds.
In your opinion, why Indian bikes are not as popular as the HD? Is it the awesome marketing of HD? Or has something to do with quality and resale value ?
I'm a harley guy scout line cool but not much out there for accessories yet plus how many people willing to work on them? Every wanna be mech is willing to dirty thier hands on a harley
Hey buddy, this is Nick from NYC. I have a Harley 48 and I am seriously considering trading it in for a Indian Scout or the new Scout Bobber. I'm looking for opinions so can you tell me what you think? Thanks
Yeah scout bobber is my next bike. I've been researching it for a while looking at different bikes. The Triumph bobber black is also nice ; if I were to get a Harley it would be a soft tail slim s.
The Triumph looks awesome. The biggest disadvantage with the Triumph is that it's chain driven opposed to the Scout which as a belt. So with the Triumph you'll have to clean and grease your chain every 500 miles or so. The Triumph also has less horsepower. However the Triumph looks fantastic.
A better comparison would be the Indian Scout to the Sportster 1200C. I see a lot of these reviews and they always use the 48. The 1200C has a bigger tank than the Scout and therefore more range. It's also set up for carrying a passenger. Another thing to consider is that Harley has a mass of add-ons compared to the Indian, for example adding a fuel gauge, from what I've seen the Scout doesn't have one. The Scout is a great bike but it has a radiator, there's plenty of metric cruisers in that category.
I get your point, but the problem is, the Scout Bobber is just a Scout with different styling. You have the same seat, the same tank same everything as the Scout. Whereas the 48 has a smaller tank, smaller seat, different bars than say a 1200C. You could call any Sportster a bobber.
Theo Karagiris I agree... although I would still go for the Harley, if the deal was speed I wouldn’t get a cruiser to begin with... and I was a die hard Indian guy, but now I ride a Harley, and now after a few months of ownership I understand... you buy a Harley because of its character and history plus they are not bad bikes at all... I love my 2017 Road King
I agree, I think the 1200C would be a better comparison and yes the HD has a slightly bigger tank. However, we have these two bikes that ride with us and the Scout gets better range. Conditions were Canberra to Sydney in Australia cruising at about 110klm hr pretty well side by side. It might be different at different speed or conditions, perhaps up through the mountains? But on city to city at freeway speeds, the Scout had a good edge. Hope that helps?
Mr. Laidlaw can't knock a guy for giving his own opinions. I'm sure the guy can take some critisisim on a Harley he sells. Unless he is a thin skinned snow flake, but I doubt it.
Scout superior bike in almost every way by significant margin. (Seat on Scout not real comfortable.) Only die hard Harley fans would choose Sportster in this segment. Not a close comparison, everyone knows it.
In my opinion the Indian Scout is pure perfection in terms of looks. Not just as a cruiser but as a motorcycle in its entirety. Big fan.
Yeeeeees. Im all about naked sport bikes ( MT-09). But, that Indian Scount Bobber Twenty got me conflicted.
That's exactly what I thought!
Is no one gonna mention air cooled vs liquid, tank capacities? Indian for the win all around.
I got myself an Indian now 😉
I had my Indian Bobber parked right next to a brand new Harley 48 at the weekend, everyone was looking at the Indian, I had 2 people come up when I was getting off and on the bike and ask me about it, no one even noticed the Harely.
totally yeah, indians are unusual to see, I prefer the sporty, but LOVE to go look at and talk to all indians and indian riders. lots of fun, as they are a refreshing site. so many clones! but I happen to prefer the mechanics of hd,
after two years, do you still own the Bobber?
@@rolandjosef7961 No it turned out it was a piece of shit that wouldn't start
Dexter x I was thinking about getting one, when did you start having problems and was it covered or did you take a loss? Is it a known issue that you dealt with?
Dexter x thanks for the quick reply. I’ve been looking at the Scout Bobber, Triumph Bobber and HD 48. What did you end up going with?
I have a 2015 Indian Scout. It’s my second bike ever. My first, which is still have, was a 2016 Harley Street 500. I love the Scout. It gets soooo many compliments, even in stock form. It’s soooo fast. Handles amazing, feels really light with a low center of gravity. Gas mileage is pretty awesome too, usually right around 50mpg. Cruises great, does 100mph without breaking a sweat. Sooo love this bike.
My first bike is a street 750 but I’m stuck between the scout bobber and sporter s 😩
When brands compete the consumers win. Happy to see what Harley does in response.
They’re discontinuing the Sportsters and making a whole new line of bikes. One of them resembles a mix between a scrambler and a Diavel.
indian scout looks more premium and fully finished no offence
I think it's just the opposite, the HD looks more premium by a long shot.
Tuesdaysgonewtw were you looking at the right motorcycle? Tractor technology motor with little Power. big air filter sticking out on the side. Indian bobber make that Harley look outdated .
I would love to have the Scout Bobber, but it looks like a very small bike. I’m only 5’11” and it looks like I would be very cramped up on it. The Scout just has to giant fenders that just doesn’t look good. And what is up with the ginormous out of place exhaust?
akaredcrossbow exhaust is made to meet EPA emission regulations. Harleys don’t like to talk about that as they don’t really play by the rules but aftermarket parts are always available for this bobber. Only way to tell how you feel about the bobber or regular scout is to pay a visit to your local dealer and see how you like it in person.
FatStogie yes I know, first thing to go when I got new Harley’s. At least Harley stock exhaust is decent looking and can be left on for some time. Indian Scout Bobber looks like their selling the exhaust and the bike is included. The one problem is not much to choose for exhaust except slip ons. I haven’t seen a good aftermarket exhaust system for Indian, they all looked pieced together with parts that don’t fit and that just doesn’t look good.
From someone who has owned 4 Sporsters, I sold my Sporty and bought an Indian Scout Sixty, great bike and they can be customized easily. It will take a bit before the aftermarket catchs up but still lots out there. The Indian Scout is faster and smother by far.
you dont miss the pleassure of the harley twin?
do you still own the Bobber.
Josef Jr. Ababat are you thinking of buying one?
Rode 3 Indians at the dealer yesterday. I'm selling my sportster. In the 08 models they had a recall on the gas tank threads for the cap. This allowed a leak and my tank rusted allowing a bunch of crap to go in the filter. Wasn't caught soon enough. Bikes only got 11k miles and all they will do for me is clean the threads in the tank so it seals like it should. Pump kit at hd is almost $300. Fuk hd, I'm buying a scout. Better bike in every way. Made my sportster feel like a moped. 60mph on a scout u are at 2950 rpm. Sportster is rattling ur fillings out at that speed. Dreams over for me hd. I'll be drifting on an Indian instead of dragging pegs at the grocery store.
67 horsepower? The sportster is definitely a barbie.
Tbh in many aspects of reality...Indian scout bobber is a far batter bike with a refined engine performance,better pickup,looks and built quality....
But one thing that no other bikes on this planet can ever replace is...the Thrill and experience of riding a Harley and the aura it comes with it!!
The sound of starting and running a Harley sounds heavenly!!
I’m planning to get either a Harley 48 or an Indian scout bobber!! Can’t wait!!!
i heard you at 3:00 say 11 thousand and not hundred. some crazy CC's lol...just got my 2019 indian scout bobber 4 days ago..Im in love with it...amazing machine
I agree with most of the comments, you get a lot more with the Scout than you do for the 48. The 48 does have more customization, but that’s it, but with taxes and so on they’re basically the same price. I think another good comparison would be the new Triumph Bobber Black.
I do like how both bikes look in their own way.
I've ridden both and it's the Indian by a mile. The thing is an absolute monster. With a good set of aftermarket pipes it sounds like Satan. I love that bike.
Looked at both bikes for several months.No experience.Sat on both.The scout first.I was sold.Then I sat on the 48.Well when I transported my new bike home.I started it up for the first time.That vibration and raw feel made me confident that Indian wasn't for me.
This really can't be overstated enough - it really is just personal preference. I bought the Indian Scout ABS - just always wanted one, and I loved the more retro style. Have ridden it for a few months. I love it, and will own it forever. However, dad rides Harleys, and I can say that my second bike would be a HD. There is a more aggressive mechanical sound and feel that you don't get on the Indian. The Indian has more of a hum than a rumble. You almost expect to hear a turbo spin up. Not knocking the Indian at all, but it just depends on what you want to get out of it. Some days I feel more Indian, some days more HD. I really don't think you can go wrong either way.
Robert Summerlin Well said Robert.Every day is different.
The EVO motor in the Harley is such a fun motor to ride. The rubber mounts let it shakes just enough that it feels like an old school ride, I wish the sportster had a 6spd. The look, feel, and sound of the sportster are just so good. This is a hard choice but I’d have to go with the HD.
I dig the Indian Scout Bob and Harley Davidson 48 sporter, both are unique iron ponys. 👍😎💢
Daniel... I recently moved to Reno from Tucson after spending most of my life there and now find myself watching your vlogs to get a little taste of home. Hoping that you can vlog some rides out to some of my top places to ride like: Lemmon, Kitt Peak, Madera Canyon, Arivaca, Sonoita/Parker Canyon Lake, Gates Pass/McCain Loop, Reddington Pass, Saddlebrooke, Oracle.... the list goes on and on. Tucson is a gem for motorcycles. Looking forward to seeing more of it through your GoPro.
I test rode both bikes, I own the Bronze Smoke Indian Scout Bobber. It was a night and day difference in how much better the Indian felt, and c'mon who doesn't love HP and high revving bikes? Not to mention, it's nice having everyone stare and drool knowing you own something different and that it's not just another Harley on the road.
do you still own the Bobber?
What about the Triumph Bonneville Bobber? What do you think about it? I think it looks even better than the Scout.
The dual front brake Triumph Bobber Black hitting the dealerships in March of 2018 will be The One to compare to the Scout Bobber. Until then, the Scout motor and dual front discs push it ahead performance wise.
Style wise, I love the Triumph, not that the Scout styling isn't cool as hell too. Harley just isn't competitive outside the riders (and there are many) who want to deeply customize their rides.
Visually they are both very different bikes, the triumph is a lot let practical but if you really like the look of it then go for that.
I would have to go Indian, one of the major reasons would be tank size. I don't feel like stopping at the gas station every 80 miles. But I do love the look of the 48 don't get me wrong.
A friend of mine had a sportster. He spent a little bit of cash on his bike and the speed that bike obtained was unbelievable. Faster then my old vic highball.
I was just there today I'm looking for my first motor cycle and I fell in love with the bobber I think I might buy one
Good simple in depth review for me. Thanks for this
You are the best! this is the exact video I was looking for
I agree . I think the Indian scout isn’t better in every way . I actually prefer the ent Indian lineup compared to HDs
Good choice with the bobber, it’s #1 when it comes to cruisers in my opinion.
Great review. I especially appreciate the seat height comparison!
Iconic peanut tank HD. Lol
Hurt my eyes.
Indian scout anytime anyday.
I have a 2021 Indian Scout Bobber and a 2011 Honda Fury. I’m one happy dude.
Great comparison, thanks! I'd go the Indian!!
The Scout may be just a little bit higher in price, but you get more bang for your money with the Scout. The Scout has a modern overhead cam, liquid cooled engine to begin with. It also has a 6-speed overdrive transmission. That means it's cooler to ride when it's hot out, and with the 6-speed it most likely gets better fuel mileage. The lower seat height on the scout means better handling with the lower center of gravity. The Scout is really a bad ass when it comes to power, as it will blow away a Sportster any day. The only advantage the Sportster has is it's potato-potato idle sound that Harley riders love.
Good comment. I like the style of both Harley and Indian but i dislike the sound if Indian bikes. I hear a engine whine sound from and Indian and i don't like. I know it sounds like i'm being nit picky but it not something i want to hear from my bike when i ride it. Indians are nice powerful bikes more powerful than a Harley though im not looking for power. My first bike will be a Harley 48 and lite on i'll buy a Indian FTR1200 and that if Indian approves the FTR prototype.
I don't know what you mean about the noise. My buddy has a Scout, and we've rode together a lot. Haven't heard any unusual sounds from his Scout. I ride an Indian Springfield, and it basically sounded like a "Harley Milwaukee 8" until I had it upgraded to Stage 2 with Rush pipes. Now it sounds like a Milwaukee 8 on steroids. I like the heavier bikes like the Indian Chief series and bikes like the Harley Street Glides & Road Kings, because I like to tour.
Here a link to the engine whine. Listen to it when he revs or passes by. When it comes to cruiser i only like the HD Softail slim because it gives of a Harley WLA look, I couldn't see myself on a Harley/Indian touring bike. I just don't like the look of them. If I was to get a touring bike id probably go for a Ural motorcycle, which comes with a sidecar.
Friend had a Ural. He had quality issues with it, and he seemed to think it was under-powered. I can trust a Harley or Indian, and they have lots of dealers all over the USA. In 2013 Indian did not have a dealership in Indiana, but now I have 3 dealerships within 50 miles from my home. Polaris really put life back into the Indian brand, but it cost them the Victory brand.
John Ayres If Ural have a bad reliability then I just add a side car to my Harley/Indian. Idk why I didn't think of that. Back in 2014 I wanted to buy a Victory Gunner but I gave on it since I was fresh out of highschool and I needed to save money for college. Sucks to see them go. I think it was bad marketing that killed them off.
I have a Sporty now, not a 48, my next bike will be another HD. I am waiting to see what the next Sporty release will be, similar to what HD did with the Dyna's turning them into Softails with upgraded motors and everything else I feel the next Sporty should follow the same path only smaller to compete with the Indian Scout on the spec sheet
You forgot to tell the people that the HD is air cooled.
I love the red Scout with tan seats, but the problem is, so few Indian dealers, Harley dealers are more accessible.
I was looking into buying a Harley Sportster 48 new from an L.A. area Harley-Davidson dealer. The MSRP on that 48 is $11,299, the only added option was the security option which was about $400. The out-the-door price I was quoted was $14,600 & change.
I was stunned at the price, it seemed high to me, especially since I read that motorcycle sales have been sagging and Harley was offering financing deals in April. Is this par for the course?
No Triumph Bobber in the mix?
Switching from Super Sport to a bobber style I can't decide between the two. I'm leaning towards the Indian mainly because of the Horse power. I was really leaning towards a Softail, but love the looks of both the Indian and the HD 48
Great info. Balanced. Awesome review.
Balanced? 2 minutes on the Indian, 4 minutes discussing the HD.
They are both beautiful bikes! It doesn't matter what you choose. This HD is Better than Indian and vise versa has to go. The only thing that matters is yourself. Don't get caught up to what everyone is riding. Be your own person! Pick what you want and ENJOY THE HECK OUT OF IT. RIDE SAFE!
Harley 48 dynos 57hp and 67ft/lbs of tq. Bobber does 83hp with 62.5ft/lbs of torque.
You could spend your hard-earned money on an under-powered, over-priced POS, or you could buy an Indian.
rode both, preferred the hd as far as fitment and style, and road feel. both are good bikes, hey, some people like different things, pos is in the eye of the beholder. you also look at resale, parts availability, dealer locations, the time tested sportster platform and engine, my last one clocked over 100k. they are good bikes
@@davelafontaine1709 I'd agree , like 'em both. Personally I've always gotten along fine with HD , but as you say , it's all in what the person likes. We all ride , and love it for what it is , regardless of type or brand.
Be safe ,folks.
I bought a 2019 Indian scout bobber, and i absolutely love it. My only complaint is that the seat kind of sucks, it's very hard but it naturally is going to take some time to break in. But it's definitely quick, Handles really well, and gets plenty of attention.
do you still own the Bobber?
@@rolandjosef7961 i do! 5,000 miles flawlessly. I changed to a Corbin seat, ginz choppers 20 inch sissy bar and 12"apes
Scout looks stunning specially that gorgeous engine.100HP you wont outgrow but you will on HD
I have a 2015 Harley 48 and love it! I love the tank color but as far as runnin range it blows, 78 miles and it’s to sputtering
I must say! They are both nice bikes! I am a little bias because i have a 2014 48 which btw love the wheels more than the 2018 version... now I bought the harley not because is a better bike! I truly think indian is could be a better bike! I bought a harley because i wanted a bike i can play with, customize, plus cant beat a 48 sound rocking some V&H shorts! Love my shakie bike and the thin profile! I do hate the small 2.2 gal tank on 48! Esthetically is fantastic! For long rides it sucks!
I bought the 48. It may have more flaws and less tech, but I did enough research to find out that the harley frame is made of steel and the the indian frame is aluminum. If the harley is easier to fix and customize and wouldnt literally snap on me... ill go with the 48
ISB handles well compared to the HD48. I used to have an ISB, trade it in for 48, I have no choice because it became very expensive for me. There's no motorcycle shop around my area that has the right knowledge in installing aftermarket parts. There's a little to none after market parts to put on the ISB in the US. So your choice of making it your "own" is slim. The 48 on the other hand has tons of aftermarket parts that you can put on the bike.
I like some of the Indians quite a bit but one thing that may be an issue is how far the nearest dealer is from you if something happens to the bike and it needs repairs? There are 4 Harley dealers within 70 miles of me and not a single Indian dealer?
I live in Indiana and I have 4 Indian dealers WITHIN 70 miles, so that isn't an issue with me.
John Ayres
Don't get me wrong I'd love to have an Indian I think they are beautiful bikes! But having 4 dealers close to your home is great what happens if your on a trip and need a dealer? With todays bikes its most likely not going to be an issue? But things happen? I like knowing just about anywhere in the US I'm never far from a dealer if I need one.
I'm really not worried. I have roadside assistance from being a member is "Indian Rider's Group", so that eases my mind. Actually if you do a dealer search on the Indian web site you'll find a lot of dealers, and they keep opening new ones. In Indiana they didn't have any dealerships in Indiana in 2014, but now there's dealerships all over the state. Two new ones opened last year. Indian is cutting into Harley's market share by double digits now, and actually that's great for American consumers since Harley is making better bikes now with refinements and new models.
What IMRG are you in? I'm about to join #1986
This is a good exchange of opinions and a very important one. I’ll leave my thoughts under my profile
Straight out of the box the Scout is probably better but the Harley has the biggest after market scene.
Hey Dan i love your channel and videos! I was wondering how you would compare this to a Harley 48, i sat on one at a dealer today and sadly there wasn't any sportsters to try. Would you have a bit more insight as to what would be different and which is better to purchase?
I didn’t have a 48, but I had a Roadster which was also a 1200. Just got my Scout (not a bobber) 2 days ago. I loved them both. But my wife likes to ride with me so that influenced what I got-should have stuck with the Fatboy for that. Having an extra gear is huge, especially getting on a highway. The Scout is a little longer and two up is easier and better, even with the slightly smaller engine. If I could have a pure bobber just for me, it would be the Indian. I love the Sportster line, but I think the Scout line is just better. The accessories will catch up as sales increase.
I love both of em'. 😎
Ya me too! I am just a fan of motorcycles. No brand loyalty here.
Im going to get a bike this week and I don't know which one to get. I want the 48 with the 4.5 gallon tank upgrade And the Harley Davidson name but I like the specs and the price on the scout but it's a name that has been switching companies And you can not upgrade the tank or do many modifications
i have a 2018 indian scout bobber, thunder black, no abs, dont realky neex it not worth the 1200 more, have a few upgrades, new motherroad custom indian tattoo leather tractor seat, blacked out led headlight, rear 180 michelin scorcher 32(yes a harley nobby tire matches the 130 front) radiant gp shortys slip ons( you would never know they are slip ons) me and about 7 of my boys go on rides here in NorCal , they all have really bad ass Harley’s.. When we stop to grab a drink of ..... water.. EVERYONE seems to gravitate to my Bobber .. always getting compliments on it , its a very rare looking bike , a lot of people are saying that they never seen a bike like this, and they own Harley’s .. plus its fast as fuck .. very happy with my Bobber , $11,800 OTD w/1134 miles on it (practically new) couldn’t be fuckin happier !!
Do you still own the Bobber?
I’m really leaning toward the Scout Bobber.
On paper it's hard to pick HD over Indian. But you can build a sportster with just an engine and all aftermarket parts. Something to consider.
Comparing bobber style though, it's all about looks and this is tough.
Indian has 100hp but it's made higher in the rev range thanks to that liquid cooled engine. HD has always been about low end where most riders feel the pull. I believe I saw another comparison video and due to those differences they are with less than a second of time for 0-60 (Indian being faster).
OneDown ThenUp agree with what you said, however, one second difference in 0-60 and 1/4 mile time is a lot in terms of drag racing or canyon carving.
Red Solo Cup , agreed, Indian is .7 seconds faster 0-60 for 2015 model. The high horse power and rev range will definitely help in the long run. . A lot can change in that time though. I do wish my sportster had a 6th gear.
Below are the rear wheel stats for 15'
Sportster; 65.16 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm /60.78 hp @ 5800 rpm
Scout; 63.53 lb-ft @ 5900 rpm / 84.88 hp @ 7900 rpm .
Indian if you never want to change the look. HD if you want to customize.
Jason Duerr that comment makes no sense what so ever . I’ve seen plenty of customized bobbers . Don’t know where you were going with this one .
FAR less part options to customize an Indian.
Jason Duerr yeah but it’s all off the shelf stuff for Harley so it makes no difference because you just end up with the same parts on your Harley that someone else has . I don’t care about aftermarket parts . Either way I don’t buy off the shelf . One off custom parts are the only true custom aftermarket parts .
What about repair costs? Is one bike/manufacturer cheaper to repair than the other? Im not talking just using oem parts.
That's a good question. HD has a lot of volume and availability. I imagine the prices between HD and Indian for repair are probably really similar. Indian probably takes longer for major service, especially if you consider the distance you need to travel for a dealer. This scout is damn good looking.
Well done. Thank you.
I think all the HD Sportsters look better than the indian scouts. I enjoy the hell out of my iron 883. I just wish it came with a 6th gear.
There should be a 6 speed 1200 Iron.
Which is more comfortable of the two for long drives ?
I'd get the Indian Scout with fenders that protect the radiator and keep me from wearing a skunk stripe in the rain. A passenger and cargo can also go along if necessary all for about the same price AND they come with clear coat and shiny bits. I'll take the Jade green thank you.
One thing the Harley has going for it is simplicity. No radiator or valves to maintain. 2 gallon tank and lack of ability to carry anything make it impractical for anything beyond a bar hopper.
I do like the headlight on the Indian Bobber.
Indian has a 0%apr, which is very appealing, but I love my "paid off" 05 sportster more.
#TeamScoutBobber =P
I would have to go Indian, one of the major reasons would be tank size. I don't feel like stopping at the gas station every 80 miles. But I do love the look of the 48 don't get me wrong.
Yes buying my bobber this spring!
I like the 48. The look is to my preference. My only problem with the sportster is the size of the tank. Is it a 2 or 3.3 gallon?
It's a 2.3 gallon tank but you can buy a tank that holds more gallons.
I strap a 5 gallon military jerry can to my 48 whenever I wanna go on an adventure. No big deal, but that's just me.
Indian has HD in a headlock right now.
Hopefully buying a the scout bobber in a couple months. I wish we could get a test ride video of it!
Just wondering if you pulled the trigger and bought the Bobber? If so do you still own it?
@@rolandjosef7961 no i ended up getting a '19 harley street bob because they gave me $0 down and double what my trade in was worth. I still love the bobber and would LOVE to add it to my garage, but I also think the challenger will be the next edition.
We can compare and nitpick about each bike and all but I’ve thrown a leg over both and the Indian just felt awkward to me..not sure if it was how low I sat or leg position or what but I prefer the 48 and dig how customizable it is vs the Indian...
Didn't hear you mention the tq on the sporty and at what rpm...
Which is better scout sixty or indian bobber?
Love Harley, but the 48 has had its time. Indian is the way to go. There's enough 48's out there
Bro I am almost 6ft and I want a bobber which bobber bike will be best for me ....😅
I’m an Apache Indian so of course I gotta go with the Indians all the way !
I think the scout bobber is a level above the sportster with such a horsepower difference and 6 speeds. The scout 60 has similar HP numbers and 5 speeds.
Hey Dan, Tucson denizen myself. Do you ever do meetups? Got a couple friends who'd like to ride with you! -B
You'll be filling up the peanut sized tank on the harley wuite often!
I know it’s a little thing but I hate Harley’s kick stand at least the ones on the iron 883 and the 48 it just feels unreliable.
Indian, hands down.
How is this possible? In Belgium the scout bobber is priced €17090 and the HD 48 is priced €12800 ...
Love my scout bobber..
In your opinion, why Indian bikes are not as popular as the HD? Is it the awesome marketing of HD? Or has something to do with quality and resale value ?
Nothing on riding positions or ranges?
I'm a harley guy scout line cool but not much out there for accessories yet plus how many people willing to work on them? Every wanna be mech is willing to dirty thier hands on a harley
Hey buddy, this is Nick from NYC. I have a Harley 48 and I am seriously considering trading it in for a Indian Scout or the new Scout Bobber. I'm looking for opinions so can you tell me what you think? Thanks
Yeah scout bobber is my next bike. I've been researching it for a while looking at different bikes. The Triumph bobber black is also nice ; if I were to get a Harley it would be a soft tail slim s.
Can anybody explain which one sounds heavier? I mean more bass and growly sound and also a bit louder?
Id have to work&save for 3 years to save enough for either of these bikes
Indian is better looking
You failed to mention silver with abs.
11033cc!!!! Wow!😁
Dare I say Triumph Bobber?
The Triumph looks awesome. The biggest disadvantage with the Triumph is that it's chain driven opposed to the Scout which as a belt. So with the Triumph you'll have to clean and grease your chain every 500 miles or so. The Triumph also has less horsepower. However the Triumph looks fantastic.
@@waltertaplin4863 Not by much and it has more torque.
Triumph ?
Jool only American power!!!
Indian wins this battle
I’ll take the Indian with a 240 rear and skinny front
A better comparison would be the Indian Scout to the Sportster 1200C. I see a lot of these reviews and they always use the 48. The 1200C has a bigger tank than the Scout and therefore more range. It's also set up for carrying a passenger. Another thing to consider is that Harley has a mass of add-ons compared to the Indian, for example adding a fuel gauge, from what I've seen the Scout doesn't have one. The Scout is a great bike but it has a radiator, there's plenty of metric cruisers in that category.
I get your point, but the problem is, the Scout Bobber is just a Scout with different styling. You have the same seat, the same tank same everything as the Scout. Whereas the 48 has a smaller tank, smaller seat, different bars than say a 1200C. You could call any Sportster a bobber.
Theo Karagiris I agree... although I would still go for the Harley, if the deal was speed I wouldn’t get a cruiser to begin with... and I was a die hard Indian guy, but now I ride a Harley, and now after a few months of ownership I understand... you buy a Harley because of its character and history plus they are not bad bikes at all... I love my 2017 Road King
Theo Karagiris the scout bobber you can get pillion seat and pegs so you can if you want have it set up for passengers.
Yes, I've seen that.
I agree, I think the 1200C would be a better comparison and yes the HD has a slightly bigger tank. However, we have these two bikes that ride with us and the Scout gets better range. Conditions were Canberra to Sydney in Australia cruising at about 110klm hr pretty well side by side. It might be different at different speed or conditions, perhaps up through the mountains? But on city to city at freeway speeds, the Scout had a good edge. Hope that helps?
I’m stuck between the two 😭
I wonder how Matt Laidlaw feels about you using his footage to give a recommendation on a Indian being he owns a Harley dealership.
Mr. Laidlaw can't knock a guy for giving his own opinions. I'm sure the guy can take some critisisim on a Harley he sells. Unless he is a thin skinned snow flake, but I doubt it.
What’s abs
Indian scout look like there was more thought put into it. To bad I'm 6 2 and would look like I was riding a mini bike.
Scout superior bike in almost every way by significant margin. (Seat on Scout not real comfortable.) Only die hard Harley fans would choose Sportster in this segment. Not a close comparison, everyone knows it.
Respect to Harley but Indians are damn beautiful
I prefer the style of the Harley but the Indian is clearly more refined.
48 Sportster, that's the bike I want
Ditch both of these bikes and straight away gp for triumph bonneville bobber black....