El Muerto is too mainstream. Wake me up when Sony makes a movie about the random civilian the venom symbiote bonded to for three panels right after it escaped the Baxter Building to go back to Peter.
I would genuinely love it if Sony just started doing a cinematic universe out of D-list villains. Fuck it, let’s have a Big Wheel movie. A Fly movie. Tarantula. Boomerang. Terrier. Gibbon. The possibilities are endless. The Lame Spider-Man Villains Universe.
The idea of an obscure character getting an adaptation (WHO ONLY EAS IN 2 ISSUES) does sound pretty cool since you can basically do anything you at least based of the little things we’ve got about him. However, it’s Sony and I can’t exactly trust them. Maybe if someone who’s into luchador stuff and all was making it, it would be awesome, but I highly doubt it.
@CH_Omega Just stop trying to do solo movies. Not every character is interesting enough for one and that's okay. Make new, good Spider-Man stories and use these new/obscure characters.
What are you talking about if the NOVA movie was great, the NOVA movie that was totally released because Marvel could not left us disappointed with that movie.....the NOVA movie......
What's annoying is there are obscure one-shot Spidey villains that can push a movie sans the web-head. 1) Hypertron: Booster Gold if he had Iron Man with a snarky OS. Fun buddy comedy. 2) Bloodshed: A super enforcer for the drug trade who wants to go legit. Nice redemption story. 3) Hardshell: Tech genius woman who wants to avenge her dead D-list villain husband. Girl power film.
I think Sony's reasoning for making an "El Muerto" movie must have been that they realized that comic book fans knew all the characters they were going to make a movie about, so they looked for a character that didn't even the most knowledgeable fans know, so they can't disappoint anyone with their movies.
That is less likely then them just already having had a wrestler movie in production and tying it to a comic book character at the last second for attention.
There's even a better, actually-spider-themed, powerhouse, South American, obscure Spider-Man villain out there... the Black Tarantula. Seriously, that dude was dope in the late nineties and Spider-Girl and Ed Brubaker street-leveled him over in Daredevil for a more Hollywoodable backstory. But no, go with El Muerto, I'm sure it's gonna work out FINE.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HIS NAME WAS FOR EONS!!! Dude became one of those characters I enjoyed seeing because I remembered Spidey fighting him, get tanked, and he's like "I'll give you a Second Chance, and after that, I'm using your bones as toothpicks". Everytime I searched the name "Tarantula" I ended up finding the weird one looking like Marvel's Don Ramón.
@@brewmaster2912 yeah like seriously not to mention all the different Spiderwomen and their various storylines. I sorta hope one day the MCU can do a whole 2099 series even if it's like an anthology that follows all the different 2099 characters
After watching The Batman, I’d love Matt Reeves to direct a Spider-man Noir movie. The setting, the tone, the characters, everything is such a unique take on the character that it would be a breath of fresh air with all the modern day depictions of Spider-man.
When I heard that Sony ok’d a El Muerto movie, I pulled out my forgotten copy of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man: Derailed and reread it. Not only was it a boring read, but the titular character was blander then a piece of cardboard. No wonder Sony sees potential in him, he’s such a nothing character that they could do anything with him.
I know that was all snark, but when you put it that way they genuinely could take more liberties with his character. Plus there are probably little to no fans they could potentially piss off if this movie bombs harder than the one that made Hulk.
I never imagined Bane to get his own standalone movie, especially not from Sony. No but seriously, why do they do this? Venom made sense at least, he's very popular, people wanted to see him be properly adapted and most importantly he actually has an identity outside of being a Spider-Man villain. Mobius was already pretty obscure and hiring Jared Leto is honestly a liability given that he seems to think that method acting means to be as obnoxious to work with as humanly possible. But El Muerto?? This guy was in *two* Issues, *two!* MJs new boyfriend Paul had more screen time than that. But maybe we are just all biased and Sony has truly revolutionized the character, making this movie The Spiderverse or the Heart of Ice for the guy.
Bane could actually carry a solo film...this guy though? This is like giving the kid who delivers the newspaper to May Parker a solo film. Sony really just needs to give up the rights, or let Marvel have shared profits, and full creative control.
@@jrob4795 Mr. Ditkovitch, Peter's landlord from Spider-Man 3, could carry a Solo Film better than El Muerto and the kid who delivers May's mail probably too.
Wonder if Sony will make Insomniac include El Muerto in Spider-Man 2 as like a small side mission character just so the public and even a good percentage of comic book fans will have some awareness of him
This reminds me of how, in the game Ultimate Spider-Man, when there's a bank robbery instead of normal thugs you'd fight one of Spidey's weaker and lesser known villains, like Shocker or Boomerang. So mixing it in with the usual criminal encounters would be pretty cool.
Sony continues to do what they do best, fuck up. Morbius is a joke of a film with a post credit scene that is more infuriating than fun. I would not be surprised if Sony continues to milk Spider-Man by making a Web-Man, Big-Wheel, or Kangaroo movie. They're probably thinking of making Joker style Skip Wescott movie.
The funniest part is that the Big Wheel is used by Overdrive at one point, who is on the Superior Foes team. Meaning Big Wheel is legitimately a better pick than El Muerto.
Screenwriter: "So I was wonder if maybe we can make a Spider-Girl movie? Based on the comics about Peter's daughter. Maybe we can have a new Green Goblin as the villain that looks like that 90s Unlimited series with giant claws and wings and red eyes? Make him different, more faster an athletic than the other Goblins. And We can actually embrace the colorful campy style of a classic comic book, play with the colors but we still have an emotional story of a teenage girl trying to make her father proud with her new gift as a coming of age, father/daughter relationship story. And at the end, Peter dies! May Parker knows what she must do and what Peter would want her to do; that's to be Spider-Girl, as we see his tomb is next to his aunt and uncle's tomb, she stands there and talks to Peters and tells him _"I will never let you down, dad... because you told that with great power, (tears up) comes great responsibility."_ The movie ends with the final swing like the Raimi films but it's in a first person POV. She swings to a large window were we see her reflection with her legs straighten to kick through the class, passing through the shards of glass, transitioning to black. So. What do you think..?" SONY: "*PPFF. Bitch please, we have a cinematic universe to build off of. Our next movie is a wrestler nobody heard of with a magic mask. He's the one who needs a franchise here. Get out!*"
Speaking of Peter and Mary Jane's daughter I really hope we get to see Annie from Renew Your Vows in the next spider-verse movie. Preferably the cute little kid not the wierd teen one from the later series.
Nah, after the classic trilogy, I think no more Goblins are necessary. If someone should be the final villain to nail Tobey's Spidey into the coffin, it should be Bruce Campbell Mysterio, him using illusions to make Peter face his inner demons, maybe then have Willem Dafoe Green Goblin beating him up if they really want some Goblin killing him. Dylan Baker Lizard also has to happen, tying into the father-daughter theme.
@@-Teague- Yeah, so? That was the original draft. After 15 years, the story is bound to change. Raimi can do what he wishes to do if there ever came to be a 4th movie, what I'm trying to say is that he has no obbligation to follow the Mayday comics. Just like Logan, take what you can get, but stick to your own thing to make that good film.
Remember when we all thought an Aunt May movie was the most desperate move to make more Spider-man spin offs? Well Sony really wanted to show us that was not the bottom of the barrel of Spider-man spin off. The funniest things about this is that both Spider-verse and No Way Home pretty much gives them tons of movies they could make easy. Those 2 movies opened the general audiences to having different versions of the character. They could have a movie for Tobey Spidey, Andrew Spidey, and one movie on each of the Spider-people shown in Spider-verse instead of making them on characters most people have never heard of.
Classic Sony, they have the entire world screaming "WE'RE TOTALLY OKAY WITH SPIDER-MAN 4 AND TASM3 AS WELL AS YOU CONTINUING MCU SPIDEY. WE'RE ALL COMPLETELY OKAY WITH THAT SO LONG AS ALL THE ACTORS AND CREW INVOLVED ARE ONBOARD SO PLEASE DO THAT!" And their response is "you guys want El Muerto right?"
Since people really want TASM3 and SM4, I really don't understand Sony anymore. I mean, why giving people movies about characters that nobody cares about (or even worse, bad movies about good characters), instead of giving them what they want? But again, every time Sony does a Spidey movie right, it's because it doesn't affect the movie directly, unlike, let's say, SM3, TASM2...
Fans: "Sony, you are struggling to have everything you want while the world tries to make you choose." *Sony throws another villain movie at fans* Fans: "Strong enough to have it all, too weak to take it!"
I wonder if Sony still plans on doing the Men in Black 21 Jumpstreet crossover they announced years ago. Also, you’re absolutely right about writers & animators not possibly not getting credited, happens a lot, unfortunately.
We're one step closer to a The Wicked Wall adaptation. But seriously, if they wanted to reach a latino audience with a Spider-Man adjacent character why not Miguel O'Hara, or even Anya Corazon? (they owe us a proper adaptation of her after Spider-Man 2017).
I find it absolutely INSANE that we got a solo movie based on a character that only appeared in 2 issues BEFORE we got a solo movie about the green goblin. You could definitely make a solo movie about how Norman is going insane and killing people, but this?
One of the few comic storylines I own in full* is "The Child Within" from Spectacular Spider-Man. It stars Vermin, and also Harry's Green Goblin. I read it over and over again as a kid, and I'd love to see a movie on Vermin. *Really I owned the first 5 issues for most of my life and every single Christmas I asked my parents to somehow find the sixth and final issue. When they finally did it was legitimately the best Christmas I ever had.
Aw that's such a sweet memory. Yeah they should bring in some of the more (good) obscure villains for future spiderman movies, one I really like is Cardiac
To play devils advocate properties like peacemaker prove that no matter how obscure the character it can work with some good writing ahead of it. But considering if we are getting morbius, movies that basically just serve as a way to set up a universe without a real plan then I’ve got like no faith in this. Specially with all the other characters they could be tackling. (Specially if they wanted to hit a more Hispanic demographic).
@@spideym35i Yeah The Questuon -> Roarcach Blue Beatle -> Night Owl Captian Atom -> Dr Manhattan Peacemaker -> Comedian Not sure about Ozy or Silk Spec
Blade is probably a wayy better comparison to make here in this scenario; building a character from the ground up with very little to work with other than a few issue appearances and a loose concept (being obscure doesn't mean that you don't have source material to work from, El Muerto is obscure, but that's entirely because he's never been in anything. Peacemaker was in loads of his own stuff and in the background of other stuff for years).
If Sony wanted to give the Hispanics more representation....WHY NOT DO SCORPION???? He was played by Hispanic actor, Michael Mando in the mcu, who you may know was Vaas from Far Cry. Scorpion was heavily built upon in homecoming and they did NOTHING with him. Scorpion is also one of Spideys most well known villains AND has an intriguing backstory that could actually work as a movie. Have the premise be his og comic origin where he signs up for the scorpion project so he can make extra money since he's broke, but he gets trapped in his suit and blames Jameson (we can even get JK Simmoms to return as JJJ since he's already in the mcu). Have Alistair Smythe, another Spidey rogue, be the main villain who wants to weaponize scorpion and keep him as his tool. Also, DO NOT make Scorpion an anti-hero or good guy. In comics (and mcu) he's a remorseless psychopath. It would be amazing to actually see a truly evil protagonist for once, which Michael Mando can absolutely deliver.
Considering the Scorpion figure appearing in the dimensional sky rift at No Way Home and Michael Keaton Vulture now in the Sonyverse, I'd say they might already be onto something. Idk about making him latino, that's the Ultimate gangster version. I prefer the 616 irish private investigator that got turned into a natural predator. He actually has a story with a scientist known as Stillwell, responsible for creating another Spidey villain, the Fly. You could have Fly be the "hero" while Scorpion would be the villain that was created to take down the criminal known as Fly.
@@ShibuNub3305 I want a scene at the beginning of the next Tom Holland spiderman movie where he fights a group of loser villains like the kangaroo and stuff and beats them easily but then is late for work/class. Quintessential spiderman right there 😂
I don't even think obscure comic book character movies are a bad idea for a movie sony just doesn't know how to make them interesting Guardians of the galaxy and The sucide squad proved it
Sony won't stop until they make a movie about every single ancillary Spider-Man character. Big Wheel, Kangaroo, White Rabbit, Walrus, Spider-Cide, Joystick, Judas Traveler, Vermin, Hypno Hustler, Slyde..... your time has come.
Dude! A Superior Foes movie would be F🕸️ING AWESOME! You know what, screw it! I've been deciding what to read this evening you've helped me with that! Thanks man! I'll just bust out the old trades and give it a re-read.
@@reddeadspartan Why have another Green Goblin or Doc Ock? They know they won't ever surpass the ones they already used in No Way Home, so just let Sony use those. I'd pay a lot more for an awesome solo movie just on Willem Dafoe playing Green Goblin rather than another meh MCU villain that has nothing to do with Spider-Man.
God dammit I will be seeing Across the Spider-Verse at least twice in theaters just to do my part in animation being recognized as a legitimate story telling medium for people of all ages and demographics.
I find it so baffling that Hollywood keeps putting Jared Leto into everything. I get that he has like, a “cult”, but ever since his performance as Joker he’s been seen as nothing but a punchline by most people.
I didn’t say it on the actual video because it just now hit me, but I’m legitimately happy for you getting to meet the Great Ashley Williams. You deserve it dude. Just a good kid making good honest content
Why can't they make a Superior Foes comedy movie? And if they can't have Spider-Man physically appear in it, just imply him existing or have him beat them off screen.
My theory is that they wanted to make a luchador superhero but Sony needed to use pre-existing characters for BRAND SYNERGY or smth so they went for the first marvel luchador superhero they could find.
There was a Spider-Man video about *The Wall,* so it wouldn’t be a surprise if Sony made a TV series from it. I mean, it started in *The Electric Company.*
Sony is only making these movies because they kind've have to in order to keep the Spider-Man rights out of the hands of one of their biggest rivals and reluctant partner Disney. Spider-Man and his rogues gallery is literally the only big IP they have in their entire catalogue. Maybe Ghostbusters, but that's being super generous after the controversy in 2016.
Not to mention that the US government is planning to get their copyright system back to normal because of stripping Disney of their copyright protections
They will. Any publicity is good publicity, even if that means Kevin Feige, Tom Hardy and Tom Holland alongside Marvel Studios and actors will cut off ties with you.
How can they do characters that obscure and still be unaware of comics like the Deadly Foes (or Superior, since that's their most famous line-up), nothing better than a group of incompetent villains, they're Spider-Man rogues, but he doesn't even need to appear, it's great because it's the day to day of lovable B-C list criminals.
So, Obscure unheard spidey villians who appeared in two issues get a film, but Superior Spider-Man doesn't get a film or game where he isn't just an alternate skin?
Imagine wanting to make a Hispanic Protagonist Movie, and out of all of the ones you have, out of all of the ones people love, you decided to make a Movie for the one no one cared to remember. Lemme guess, the sequel will have him fight against Crusher Hogan and marry him, and we get Spider-Man down the line saying "did your husband give it to you?"
Spider-Girl really does deserve her own movie or at least some attention in the mainstream media. I really liked those comics and it would be cool if they continue Sam Rami’s canon with her as NYC’s wall crawler. Now I’m getting excited for a good idea that probably will never happen 😔
Mobius also had multiple solo runs, team ups, and multiple appearances in other character comics besides Spidey. Like out of all Spidey villains he is one of the most disconnected from the Spider-Man himself.
Why Bad Bunny tho? I mean, i'm not saying he absolutely can't pull it off but as someone who grew up watching lucha libre, I can't picture him backflipping into another guy 6 feet below him or jump diving like a 80kg bullet into the opponent but of course, he is not going to be doing the stunts anyways, the guy can barely speak, he obviously can't handle more head trauma.
I want a movie about aunt may's doormat. Her literal doormat, I want them to make a movie about it. A full feature lenght film following the unbroken perspective of the doormat. You could even argue it's some experimental masterpiece, but I don't really care just make it into a movie.
I think it’s funny how, when this was announced, there were shills on Twitter trying to say they were fans of the character and compared it to the guardians of the galaxy when that was announced 😂😂
this is how I imagine the sony board room meeting went “quick, what’s an emerging market??” “um ummm I know, latinos!!!” “that’s good! okay who do latinos like??” “I got it”
Sony why, just why. You could probably convince J.K. Simmons to do a Daily Bugle movie about selling papers but you choose El Muerto? You could at least do Silver Sable or Hell Clash but El Muerto?
There’s literally no excuse for Sony not to make a solo Big Wheel film now.
Hey it’s the pan pizza guy
Yessss
I’m waiting for them to announce a White Rabbit,The Wall, and Speedball film.
You know what the world really needs? A movie about The Gibbon!
Starring Keanu Reeves
El Muerto is too mainstream. Wake me up when Sony makes a movie about the random civilian the venom symbiote bonded to for three panels right after it escaped the Baxter Building to go back to Peter.
Well Peter David wrote a sequel to that, so now he can appear in this movie too.
Yes
Mainstream? I haven't even this guy until sony announced their movie for him
@@tykamen5588 He's being sarcastic mate.
And call the movie ✨️Darrel✨️
I’d be more interested in a Big Wheel vs The Wall movie since you could easily make that into a comedy about two assholes trying to one-up each other.
More people know who bug wheel is than El Muerto.
@@galactic85 thanks dunkey
They should compete by trying to fight Spider-Man in dumber and dumber ways
If you were going to do that marvel would be better off making a wrecking crew movie
That would be awesome actually
When people first saw he was getting a movie I think about 99% of people were like "who's this guy"
Bro 99.9999999% of the all super nerds of the world know this guy
@@ReillyTs I think he’s talking about el muerto, not bad bunny
The 1 person in the world who knows of this guy was probably like:
I am both a big Wrestling and Marvel fan and even i never heard of that guy before
I actually thought it was satire at first
I would genuinely love it if Sony just started doing a cinematic universe out of D-list villains. Fuck it, let’s have a Big Wheel movie. A Fly movie. Tarantula. Boomerang. Terrier. Gibbon.
The possibilities are endless. The Lame Spider-Man Villains Universe.
I am starting to see that Prototype was the closest thing we have to an R-rated villainous Venom plot; just without the meat, bone and names
Boomerang isn’t lame
@@scivoid Nah Alex Mercer is already the angsty edgelord version of Venom
The spot movie though that would be ironically cool imo.
Boomerang deserves a solo movie
The idea of an obscure character getting an adaptation (WHO ONLY EAS IN 2 ISSUES) does sound pretty cool since you can basically do anything you at least based of the little things we’ve got about him. However, it’s Sony and I can’t exactly trust them.
Maybe if someone who’s into luchador stuff and all was making it, it would be awesome, but I highly doubt it.
Don’t get your hopes up pal.
No.
You can do basically anything with an original movie.
@@memezyyyyyyyyyy The point is, it's Sony. Its most likely gonna be dogshit if they have more creative control than ever.
@CH_Omega Just stop trying to do solo movies. Not every character is interesting enough for one and that's okay. Make new, good Spider-Man stories and use these new/obscure characters.
I’m just hurt that now Z list characters can get a movie greenlit while more worthy characters get ignored
The fact that we probably will never see a Gwenpool movie (or better yet, TV show) has me worried.
@@yannickvaz694 marvel couldn’t get a Power pack anything out of prediction but we got an eternals movie and Moon Knight
@@yannickvaz694 that’s marvel she’ll come soon
What are you talking about if the NOVA movie was great, the NOVA movie that was totally released because Marvel could not left us disappointed with that movie.....the NOVA movie......
Yes
Sony would rather make a live action movie of Miles Morales without crossovers rather that one with Miguel O'Hara
What's annoying is there are obscure one-shot Spidey villains that can push a movie sans the web-head.
1) Hypertron: Booster Gold if he had Iron Man with a snarky OS. Fun buddy comedy.
2) Bloodshed: A super enforcer for the drug trade who wants to go legit. Nice redemption story.
3) Hardshell: Tech genius woman who wants to avenge her dead D-list villain husband. Girl power film.
Sony: "Never heard of any of those. Congratulations, you're hired!"
I think Sony's reasoning for making an "El Muerto" movie must have been that they realized that comic book fans knew all the characters they were going to make a movie about, so they looked for a character that didn't even the most knowledgeable fans know, so they can't disappoint anyone with their movies.
Can't wait for it to flop still lmao
nah they just liked how bad bunny acted on one of their movies and gave him one
By that logic... just make better fucking movies.
A problem with that logic is, if people can't get disappointed, then they were likely never excited to begin with.
That is less likely then them just already having had a wrestler movie in production and tying it to a comic book character at the last second for attention.
There's even a better, actually-spider-themed, powerhouse, South American, obscure Spider-Man villain out there... the Black Tarantula. Seriously, that dude was dope in the late nineties and Spider-Girl and Ed Brubaker street-leveled him over in Daredevil for a more Hollywoodable backstory. But no, go with El Muerto, I'm sure it's gonna work out FINE.
Black Tarantula is a pretty under rate character IMO. I liked the version in Spider-girl a lot. Would be interesting to see him fleshed out more.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HIS NAME WAS FOR EONS!!! Dude became one of those characters I enjoyed seeing because I remembered Spidey fighting him, get tanked, and he's like "I'll give you a Second Chance, and after that, I'm using your bones as toothpicks".
Everytime I searched the name "Tarantula" I ended up finding the weird one looking like Marvel's Don Ramón.
Or just make an Spider Girl movie with Tarantula or El Muerte as the main villain
@@brewmaster2912 yeah like seriously not to mention all the different Spiderwomen and their various storylines.
I sorta hope one day the MCU can do a whole 2099 series even if it's like an anthology that follows all the different 2099 characters
Yeah, Tarantula is the original bad guy with a giant spider on his chest.
After watching The Batman, I’d love Matt Reeves to direct a Spider-man Noir movie. The setting, the tone, the characters, everything is such a unique take on the character that it would be a breath of fresh air with all the modern day depictions of Spider-man.
with nick cage
Great idea
No . The noir thing was a cool concept but I actually want to see fantasy not too realistic . The Batman and the Joker was too boring in my opinion
@@professr9343 same, Though a Noir movie could lean more on horror with villains like Vulture and Goblin
When I heard that Sony ok’d a El Muerto movie, I pulled out my forgotten copy of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man: Derailed and reread it. Not only was it a boring read, but the titular character was blander then a piece of cardboard.
No wonder Sony sees potential in him, he’s such a nothing character that they could do anything with him.
I know that was all snark, but when you put it that way they genuinely could take more liberties with his character. Plus there are probably little to no fans they could potentially piss off if this movie bombs harder than the one that made Hulk.
I never imagined Bane to get his own standalone movie, especially not from Sony.
No but seriously, why do they do this?
Venom made sense at least, he's very popular, people wanted to see him be properly adapted and most importantly he actually has an identity outside of being a Spider-Man villain.
Mobius was already pretty obscure and hiring Jared Leto is honestly a liability given that he seems to think that method acting means to be as obnoxious to work with as humanly possible.
But El Muerto??
This guy was in *two* Issues, *two!*
MJs new boyfriend Paul had more screen time than that.
But maybe we are just all biased and Sony has truly revolutionized the character, making this movie The Spiderverse or the Heart of Ice for the guy.
Bane could actually carry a solo film...this guy though? This is like giving the kid who delivers the newspaper to May Parker a solo film. Sony really just needs to give up the rights, or let Marvel have shared profits, and full creative control.
@@jrob4795 Mr. Ditkovitch, Peter's landlord from Spider-Man 3, could carry a Solo Film better than El Muerto and the kid who delivers May's mail probably too.
@@shinyagumon7015 Lol
@@shinyagumon7015 I would literally watch that any day of the week
claramente la película del muerto es una broma de mal gusto que solo va a existir para llamar la atencion de los fans de bad bunny
Imagine at the end of El Muerto, all four people in theaters seeing a Big Wheel Cameo and he's next to get a movie 🤣
Here's some of Spidey's villains that should have there own movie.
Big Wheel, Carrion, Speed Demon, Jack O Lantern, And Slyde.
Olantern would've made a good horror style villain
Wonder if Sony will make Insomniac include El Muerto in Spider-Man 2 as like a small side mission character just so the public and even a good percentage of comic book fans will have some awareness of him
This reminds me of how, in the game Ultimate Spider-Man, when there's a bank robbery instead of normal thugs you'd fight one of Spidey's weaker and lesser known villains, like Shocker or Boomerang. So mixing it in with the usual criminal encounters would be pretty cool.
Sony continues to do what they do best, fuck up. Morbius is a joke of a film with a post credit scene that is more infuriating than fun. I would not be surprised if Sony continues to milk Spider-Man by making a Web-Man, Big-Wheel, or Kangaroo movie. They're probably thinking of making Joker style Skip Wescott movie.
That ending sentence has me in tears lol
@@timmierea9694 "I think it has something to do with spiderman" is the new "somehow palpatine returned" and no one can convince me otherwise
@@shawklan27 Nah you'd need to find a different bad crossover quote
The funniest part is that the Big Wheel is used by Overdrive at one point, who is on the Superior Foes team. Meaning Big Wheel is legitimately a better pick than El Muerto.
"If you were morbidly curious about Morbius,but found out it was more BS..."
Nice one,sir! Top notch alliterative punmanship.
Screenwriter: "So I was wonder if maybe we can make a Spider-Girl movie? Based on the comics about Peter's daughter. Maybe we can have a new Green Goblin as the villain that looks like that 90s Unlimited series with giant claws and wings and red eyes? Make him different, more faster an athletic than the other Goblins. And We can actually embrace the colorful campy style of a classic comic book, play with the colors but we still have an emotional story of a teenage girl trying to make her father proud with her new gift as a coming of age, father/daughter relationship story. And at the end, Peter dies! May Parker knows what she must do and what Peter would want her to do; that's to be Spider-Girl, as we see his tomb is next to his aunt and uncle's tomb, she stands there and talks to Peters and tells him _"I will never let you down, dad... because you told that with great power, (tears up) comes great responsibility."_ The movie ends with the final swing like the Raimi films but it's in a first person POV. She swings to a large window were we see her reflection with her legs straighten to kick through the class, passing through the shards of glass, transitioning to black. So. What do you think..?"
SONY: "*PPFF. Bitch please, we have a cinematic universe to build off of. Our next movie is a wrestler nobody heard of with a magic mask. He's the one who needs a franchise here. Get out!*"
Speaking of Peter and Mary Jane's daughter I really hope we get to see Annie from Renew Your Vows in the next spider-verse movie. Preferably the cute little kid not the wierd teen one from the later series.
@@-Teague- true
Nah, after the classic trilogy, I think no more Goblins are necessary. If someone should be the final villain to nail Tobey's Spidey into the coffin, it should be Bruce Campbell Mysterio, him using illusions to make Peter face his inner demons, maybe then have Willem Dafoe Green Goblin beating him up if they really want some Goblin killing him. Dylan Baker Lizard also has to happen, tying into the father-daughter theme.
@@radrno7 lol bruh Mysterio was gonna be a joke in the original
@@-Teague-
Yeah, so? That was the original draft. After 15 years, the story is bound to change. Raimi can do what he wishes to do if there ever came to be a 4th movie, what I'm trying to say is that he has no obbligation to follow the Mayday comics. Just like Logan, take what you can get, but stick to your own thing to make that good film.
Remember when we all thought an Aunt May movie was the most desperate move to make more Spider-man spin offs? Well Sony really wanted to show us that was not the bottom of the barrel of Spider-man spin off.
The funniest things about this is that both Spider-verse and No Way Home pretty much gives them tons of movies they could make easy. Those 2 movies opened the general audiences to having different versions of the character. They could have a movie for Tobey Spidey, Andrew Spidey, and one movie on each of the Spider-people shown in Spider-verse instead of making them on characters most people have never heard of.
Classic Sony, they have the entire world screaming "WE'RE TOTALLY OKAY WITH SPIDER-MAN 4 AND TASM3 AS WELL AS YOU CONTINUING MCU SPIDEY. WE'RE ALL COMPLETELY OKAY WITH THAT SO LONG AS ALL THE ACTORS AND CREW INVOLVED ARE ONBOARD SO PLEASE DO THAT!"
And their response is "you guys want El Muerto right?"
Since people really want TASM3 and SM4, I really don't understand Sony anymore.
I mean, why giving people movies about characters that nobody cares about (or even worse, bad movies about good characters), instead of giving them what they want?
But again, every time Sony does a Spidey movie right, it's because it doesn't affect the movie directly, unlike, let's say, SM3, TASM2...
Fans: "Sony, you are struggling to have everything you want while the world tries to make you choose."
*Sony throws another villain movie at fans*
Fans: "Strong enough to have it all, too weak to take it!"
I wonder if Sony still plans on doing the Men in Black 21 Jumpstreet crossover they announced years ago.
Also, you’re absolutely right about writers & animators not possibly not getting credited, happens a lot, unfortunately.
Wanna see the Jurassic Park Fast and Furious crossover
We're one step closer to a The Wicked Wall adaptation.
But seriously, if they wanted to reach a latino audience with a Spider-Man adjacent character why not Miguel O'Hara, or even Anya Corazon? (they owe us a proper adaptation of her after Spider-Man 2017).
I find it absolutely INSANE that we got a solo movie based on a character that only appeared in 2 issues BEFORE we got a solo movie about the green goblin. You could definitely make a solo movie about how Norman is going insane and killing people, but this?
Willem Dafoe: "If you want, the movie is yours. All it takes is one phone call."
One of the few comic storylines I own in full* is "The Child Within" from Spectacular Spider-Man. It stars Vermin, and also Harry's Green Goblin. I read it over and over again as a kid, and I'd love to see a movie on Vermin.
*Really I owned the first 5 issues for most of my life and every single Christmas I asked my parents to somehow find the sixth and final issue. When they finally did it was legitimately the best Christmas I ever had.
Aw that's such a sweet memory. Yeah they should bring in some of the more (good) obscure villains for future spiderman movies, one I really like is Cardiac
To play devils advocate properties like peacemaker prove that no matter how obscure the character it can work with some good writing ahead of it.
But considering if we are getting morbius, movies that basically just serve as a way to set up a universe without a real plan then I’ve got like no faith in this. Specially with all the other characters they could be tackling. (Specially if they wanted to hit a more Hispanic demographic).
Peacemaker had more than 2 appearances......😑
@@mr.darkside65 and was the original idea for Comedian from Watchmen
@@l0sts0ul89 I did not know that
@@spideym35i
Yeah
The Questuon -> Roarcach
Blue Beatle -> Night Owl
Captian Atom -> Dr Manhattan
Peacemaker -> Comedian
Not sure about Ozy or Silk Spec
Blade is probably a wayy better comparison to make here in this scenario; building a character from the ground up with very little to work with other than a few issue appearances and a loose concept (being obscure doesn't mean that you don't have source material to work from, El Muerto is obscure, but that's entirely because he's never been in anything. Peacemaker was in loads of his own stuff and in the background of other stuff for years).
If Sony wanted to give the Hispanics more representation....WHY NOT DO SCORPION???? He was played by Hispanic actor, Michael Mando in the mcu, who you may know was Vaas from Far Cry. Scorpion was heavily built upon in homecoming and they did NOTHING with him. Scorpion is also one of Spideys most well known villains AND has an intriguing backstory that could actually work as a movie. Have the premise be his og comic origin where he signs up for the scorpion project so he can make extra money since he's broke, but he gets trapped in his suit and blames Jameson (we can even get JK Simmoms to return as JJJ since he's already in the mcu). Have Alistair Smythe, another Spidey rogue, be the main villain who wants to weaponize scorpion and keep him as his tool. Also, DO NOT make Scorpion an anti-hero or good guy. In comics (and mcu) he's a remorseless psychopath. It would be amazing to actually see a truly evil protagonist for once, which Michael Mando can absolutely deliver.
He was also Hispanic in Spiderverse
Considering the Scorpion figure appearing in the dimensional sky rift at No Way Home and Michael Keaton Vulture now in the Sonyverse, I'd say they might already be onto something.
Idk about making him latino, that's the Ultimate gangster version. I prefer the 616 irish private investigator that got turned into a natural predator. He actually has a story with a scientist known as Stillwell, responsible for creating another Spidey villain, the Fly.
You could have Fly be the "hero" while Scorpion would be the villain that was created to take down the criminal known as Fly.
@@radrno7 Actually he was a defective clone of Peter initially.
I've got a better idea, let's give Slyde, the villain who used non-stick cooking spray to commit crimes, his own 140 minute movie (I'm joking)
Ok but if we got a comedy about Slyde and other ineffectual gimmick villains like The Wall and Trapster working together I wouldn’t complain
@@ShibuNub3305 that would be hilarious and I pull genuinely watch that
@@ShibuNub3305 I want a scene at the beginning of the next Tom Holland spiderman movie where he fights a group of loser villains like the kangaroo and stuff and beats them easily but then is late for work/class. Quintessential spiderman right there 😂
Sony defo gonna make a movie about the ground that Gwen broke her back on next
It wasn't the ground it was the whiplash from the web that caught her by the leg that snapped her neck
@@tyronleung5276 web the movie
I don't even think obscure comic book character movies are a bad idea for a movie sony just doesn't know how to make them interesting Guardians of the galaxy and The sucide squad proved it
The guardians aren’t a supervillain team…
@@comicalcosmonaut959 i know i'd initially edited it from obscure characters
Sony won't stop until they make a movie about every single ancillary Spider-Man character. Big Wheel, Kangaroo, White Rabbit, Walrus, Spider-Cide, Joystick, Judas Traveler, Vermin, Hypno Hustler, Slyde..... your time has come.
They seemingly haven't planned a Black Cat movie and that makes me angry.
Sony: "We have no idea what the hell we're doing."
I like how the first Hispanic marvel character in live action is not miles or Miguel O’Hara, but El Muerto.
Finally someone see the potential of a Spider-Girl movie or series! Make THAT HAPPEN
Dude! A Superior Foes movie would be F🕸️ING AWESOME! You know what, screw it! I've been deciding what to read this evening you've helped me with that! Thanks man! I'll just bust out the old trades and give it a re-read.
Sony HAD to dig deep to even find out about El Muerto. You don't just stumble on a villain who appeared in 2 issues
Villians they should use:
*literally any good villian from spiderman like green goblin,doc ock,electro,sandman,rhino and etc*
Nah I'd rather those be saved for the MCU, lord knows we need more villains for Spidey in that universe that aren't people mad at Iron Man
@@reddeadspartan
Why have another Green Goblin or Doc Ock? They know they won't ever surpass the ones they already used in No Way Home, so just let Sony use those. I'd pay a lot more for an awesome solo movie just on Willem Dafoe playing Green Goblin rather than another meh MCU villain that has nothing to do with Spider-Man.
The Wall could get a whole trilogy of movies
Imagine if it turns out El Muerto is a joke like the Hit-Monkey game and Bad Bunny is actually playing Spider-Man 2099.
God dammit I will be seeing Across the Spider-Verse at least twice in theaters just to do my part in animation being recognized as a legitimate story telling medium for people of all ages and demographics.
Can't wait for El Muerto's catchphrase, "Let's Muerto."
I need a Big wheel movie PLSSS
I find it so baffling that Hollywood keeps putting Jared Leto into everything. I get that he has like, a “cult”, but ever since his performance as Joker he’s been seen as nothing but a punchline by most people.
I didn’t say it on the actual video because it just now hit me, but I’m legitimately happy for you getting to meet the Great Ashley Williams. You deserve it dude. Just a good kid making good honest content
When will Sony finally just give us what we all want? A movie about Alpha, the most widely known and loved Spider-Man supporting character.
Hope ur having a good day man
Why can't they make a Superior Foes comedy movie? And if they can't have Spider-Man physically appear in it, just imply him existing or have him beat them off screen.
At this point I would’ve preferred an Aunt May prequel where she’s a C.I.A undercover agent if the alternative is El goddamn Muerto.
My theory is that they wanted to make a luchador superhero but Sony needed to use pre-existing characters for BRAND SYNERGY or smth so they went for the first marvel luchador superhero they could find.
The “Freak vs Phreak” idea got me good
I feel like Xavier is making this series so he can talk about every single thing that's been announced and put it in to one video
Yeah
XAVIER POSTED ON A FRIDAY LETS GOOOOO
9:37 this aged like beautiful fine wine, my friend
There was a Spider-Man video about *The Wall,* so it wouldn’t be a surprise if Sony made a TV series from it.
I mean, it started in *The Electric Company.*
I want the infamous DC comics villain to have his own move, trilogy, and video game. That villain being "The Conceptual CONDIMENT KING!"
And kiteman
@@sebaslikesanimations1447 of course
Don't Forget Flamingo
Sony better make a Frog Man movie.
I really wanted that Hit Monkey game.
I'm honestly surprised that Amy Pascal hasn't tried to convince Sony to give "Man-Killer" her own movie.
I've wondered about who fully owns the rights to Typhoid Mary since one of her personalities originated in an issue of Spider-Man.
I’m convinced Bad Bunny showed up at Sony asking for the movie to be made since he loves wrestling and they just went “yeah sure”
Sony is only making these movies because they kind've have to in order to keep the Spider-Man rights out of the hands of one of their biggest rivals and reluctant partner Disney. Spider-Man and his rogues gallery is literally the only big IP they have in their entire catalogue. Maybe Ghostbusters, but that's being super generous after the controversy in 2016.
Not to mention that the US government is planning to get their copyright system back to normal because of stripping Disney of their copyright protections
When do we get our Slide movie?! Xavier has been waiting for so long!
I can't wait for Sony to make the Skip Westcott spin off
I hope to god they don't
They will. Any publicity is good publicity, even if that means Kevin Feige, Tom Hardy and Tom Holland alongside Marvel Studios and actors will cut off ties with you.
The Wall needs to get his own movie considering he is THE best spiderman villian.
How can they do characters that obscure and still be unaware of comics like the Deadly Foes (or Superior, since that's their most famous line-up), nothing better than a group of incompetent villains, they're Spider-Man rogues, but he doesn't even need to appear, it's great because it's the day to day of lovable B-C list criminals.
So, Obscure unheard spidey villians who appeared in two issues get a film, but Superior Spider-Man doesn't get a film or game where he isn't just an alternate skin?
Imagine wanting to make a Hispanic Protagonist Movie, and out of all of the ones you have, out of all of the ones people love, you decided to make a Movie for the one no one cared to remember.
Lemme guess, the sequel will have him fight against Crusher Hogan and marry him, and we get Spider-Man down the line saying "did your husband give it to you?"
Sony needs to make a movie on The Wall. His fight with Spider-man was the most emotionally invested I could ever be in a comic
Sony is trolling us so bad.
Spider-Girl really does deserve her own movie or at least some attention in the mainstream media. I really liked those comics and it would be cool if they continue Sam Rami’s canon with her as NYC’s wall crawler. Now I’m getting excited for a good idea that probably will never happen 😔
How about a movie starring Mr. Zodiac, that memorable guy who can transform into the Zodiac signs? Get your tickets now! 😃
After this movie, I'm expecting to get a movie of the Spider-Man villain, The Wall , in the near future.
Where's my god damn Skip Wescott movie Sony?
Yes please
“Aye wayment, this isn’t the moon knight review” (also hope you feel better soon!)
Mobius also had multiple solo runs, team ups, and multiple appearances in other character comics besides Spidey.
Like out of all Spidey villains he is one of the most disconnected from the Spider-Man himself.
Why Bad Bunny tho? I mean, i'm not saying he absolutely can't pull it off but as someone who grew up watching lucha libre, I can't picture him backflipping into another guy 6 feet below him or jump diving like a 80kg bullet into the opponent but of course, he is not going to be doing the stunts anyways, the guy can barely speak, he obviously can't handle more head trauma.
I’m gonna be honest reset the DCEU just completely reset it and they can always have The Batman movies and Co be like multiverse stories
How many times did that brick wall guy show up i think we need an entire film octilogy exploring his character
I want a movie about aunt may's doormat.
Her literal doormat, I want them to make a movie about it. A full feature lenght film following the unbroken perspective of the doormat.
You could even argue it's some experimental masterpiece, but I don't really care just make it into a movie.
*He was in Narcos and dies unceremoniously, half off-screen.
I can’t wait for “the wall” or “the wheel” to be adapted into a hardcore villain movie
Sony is that one person who keeps tripping on rakes over and over. “Morbius bombed. LET’S MAKE THINGS WORSE! 🙃”
They just confirmed the Xenophage as the main villain of the 3rd Venom movie 😅😅😅 Congrats for getting it right
I'm disappointed Sony didn't gave the White Rabbit her own movie and instead we're getting discount Bane
I actually really love your Mayday Parker spidergirl idea
If don’t wanted a Hispanic character to use they had Black Tarantula, and uhhhhhhh what’s nam- wait SPIDER-MAN 2099
Morbius cancelled everything with vampires? Goddamnit.
SONY will make a movie out of anything
They did the "haha comic costume stupid" pretty recently in Hawkeye.
Sony need to Greenlight a _Styx & Stone_ movie.
Starring Julian Richings and Alexander Ludwig.
This was a really great news video! Thankd
Loved that intro! and the Barry Allen/Mera replacements!!! Great show!
I think it’s funny how, when this was announced, there were shills on Twitter trying to say they were fans of the character and compared it to the guardians of the galaxy when that was announced 😂😂
5:38 (and the other Deadpool panel shots): That’s me behind the laptop. 😀
SUPERMAN: *”A guy with a dope pickup truck! Except he IS the dope pickup truck!”*
All these years and I still have no idea if Xavier actually likes MCU Spider-Man. He just doesn’t talk about him😂
As an Mexican myself I hate bad bunny isn't worth it to have him In his own movie
Fusion and Freak actually seem like interesting characters, especially the latter’s design. You could make some horror movies out of them.
Yeah, Freak could be something like The Thing or Orga from Godzilla 2k.
this is how I imagine the sony board room meeting went
“quick, what’s an emerging market??”
“um ummm I know, latinos!!!”
“that’s good! okay who do latinos like??”
“I got it”
Would rather watch a comedy film about Boomerang. I know more about that guy that a fricking one-time only antagonist.
Boomerang is a Good Eddie Murphy movie
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 lol
Sony why, just why. You could probably convince J.K. Simmons to do a Daily Bugle movie about selling papers but you choose El Muerto? You could at least do Silver Sable or Hell Clash but El Muerto?
At this point i wouldn't be suprised i they made a "the wall" movie