Entropy wasnt soo much outmatched skill-wise, Thresh controlled the armor spawn right from the beginning and keep up his healthpacks, and denied Entropy the same
I might be playing qw again but last time I tried I couldn’t get any of the clients to run on a current version of macOS. Maybe they’ve been updated by now.
so , the first thing first, Quake was playing the 'brick and the cube'. brick is six sided, and cube is eight sided. Brick is 'the walls' , the cube put the textures. i guess, the id software engine, was the only one, ever, because "nobody made a close approach at the central unit, as Romero did. so , the first game was Q, but it was not rendered. then was 'gl.quake', and this was graphic acceleration card, support. for those of you who don't know, a PC at that time, had a S3 (Virge microchip licence) and if you had 3D acceleration in a pci slot, you could run a rendered quake 1. the thing is : when the quake was being designed, 'there was no 3d support'. i'm guessing. i'm just saying 'that the game was written as an Engine'. and , the Accelerator made the engine, better. as i read in a book , russian, the trick of the 'doom game', was 'that it was not doing a live rendering'. some frames was cold frozen, and 'dropped from the memory'. it made the game faster. what i id did, was : that destroyed a personal computers like atari and amiga. that has run the Microsoft for a garage computer selling , and the dos windows. so : if you seen , a Norton Commander, or Dos Navigator, then , you know when the 'evolution of the computer systems has stopped'. i never seen something better than Norton commander. really. windows is really stupid. windows is 'disconnected from the user'. also internet is disconnected from the science, because "the internet was designed as a technology learning place, a place where only an information on networks and programming related subject, not 'showing nude babes'. well. "one window , one thing ?" dumb. "thank you ID , for destroying great Motorola related, french designed games, that relayed on 'one cpu machine'. that's great, that's just great.
Huh i didnt understend most what you wrote but are you trying to say that the quake and the doom engine arent 3d? Because if you are then you are wrong
a mouse with a ball :D lol.. first Microsoft Intelli Explorers came out later imho.. ~2001-2002 wich were optical (400dpi or 800dpi if im not mistaken) (wich were considered like gaming mouse back then...)
Some kind of mechanical mouse with a ball inside it, optic and laser wasn't around yet and there was no such thing as a gaming mouse. A fun fact is that Thresh was the guy who popularized WASD as movement keys. Not everyone used that back then.
@@miguelpereira9859 Back then, games were controlled by the arrow keys, the control key(Fire button), and in Dooms case the space bar for actions. Quake popularised the whole Mouse-Keyboard Combo.
Everybody knew that you can turn while jumpin. Just try it with a office ballmouse from 1997. When you discover a technique to stop the cursor jumping when you set the mouse back on the surface let everybody know please.
You did not offend me at all. It's a common misconception. Unstable fps and a shitty mouse do not help the performance. This was before the pentium 2 and even before glquake if im not mistaken. Also my ancestors played pong
Lmao yes that's very true. Though I used a trackball for ages to game, so I really don't think a ball mouse would have been that bad with a higher sensitivity; I agree that it would still suck with bad fps and refresh rate. not to mention max resolution was 800x600 or something for the original game. my point was just that it's funny to see how games evolve. It was the same thing in BF2, it was probably a good couple years before using TV missiles on choppers instead of just ground targets became the norm in the game. It's funny to me to see Quake 1 being played in this fashion, since the community is much different now.
+Herr Bert - air control in Quake (original Vanillaquake engine) didn't add speed. If you wanted to accelerate in air, you needed to push +forward. +forward did kill 95% of air control. The speed gain was insignificant, you could gain like 30% speed in one roundjump (with nowadays knowledge) and them continue with +forward but you will hit the wall within few jumps as you couldn't turn :). Quakeworld changes in engine brought acceleration during air time without +forward. So with QW, trick jumping was really worth it and therefor, exploited to perfection. Also, you could hear lot more in original Quake so jumping was just great way to reveal your position :D
+notuern In 1997, game was played on 90 degree FOV. This replay was recorded on 110 degree FOV. +AR7271 don't they call you stupid? Resolution has nothing to do with what is rendered.
El Shuwix Thats cute, if you had played the game at the time you would have known they used high fov. I love it when people talk about things they dont know shit about. :D
You're cute. 110-120 fov with d_mipcap 4 was what pretty much all players used, i've been speedrunning the original Quake and playing Quake World on and off since the release(We can duel if you want ;) ). But no point in discussing this anymore, you're making your self look like a jerk who don't know shit basically. But yeah, maybe Thresh didn't use 110-120 fov like all the other pro-level players did back then, you're still uninformed though.
but , the screen you watch is flat, the CRT was not flat. "what difference" , a very big or huge. This game mixes 'reality' (because the weapons are not fantastical but realistic) with versatility, which is the very free choice , and "the speed of moving". game doesn't provide , looking out of the Corner, ducking, and it doesnt provide 'head shots'. which was never included in any 'id quake production', neither 'a quake enemy territory'. called 'quake wars'. so : the 4th quake team fortress really was a bomb. this demo is run on a new engine, not the old one, i'm not sure if there was simple items back then. is there a 'sv_gravity , run on this map? also 'fov' was a key. i played omicron bot on Dm2 , and Dm4, so "if you ask Rambo, what is quake, he's gonna say : it's my Houme". i think today we deserve a 'pointing device with a hand grip' rather than mouse. i play quake 2 with left hand. it makes impressions real. map 'the Edge' it's just crazy, Quake 2 is a masterpiece, i just love this game. it's so perfect. i saw one demo on dm2 somebody said "what you learned from Entropy , makes you really good", or something, because jumped 180degree , well 'he jumped across the lava, without opening the floor. you know. "i heard there is plenty camps , lately", kick boxing camps, karate camps, different camps. i am guessing, different camping grounds, gather some Campers. for all those who 'think about cherries collecting' cheers. dm4. so, where is the bad place. cos i wanna visit there. i also seen a cinema demo, about "a soldier who came back from stroggos planet, with his rail gun, to a family, that was pissing off him, and.. that was funny". he just came back from a war against aliens, and 'here is what he meets again'. Lame thing.
Every single video i can watch on youtube seems to load just fine, but for years i havent been able to watch more than ~30-60 seconds of your videos before they freeze and i have to wait another minute or so before they continue loading.. frustrating as hell.
ChristianIce It has nothing to do with that.. even if i play it back at 240p it wont load. I've been able to watch any videon on youtube without a hitch except on this channel, but now it seems to work.. finally! :)
at least they can catch their opponent by surprise, they run all around unoticed since the steps make no noise at all XD, in Q3 or QL you gotta press the WALK button for that purpose and it's way slower.
Man, THIS IS BORING! I remember watching this back in q2 days, like 1999 or so, it was boring already. No wonder Thresh didnt accomplish anything in competitive quake as we know it.
You're a dumbass that should just shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. He's done more in competitive gaming and his personal life, than you'll EVER accomplish - NEWB! ruclips.net/video/z3X17AE5x1M/видео.html
@@ФеофанЭтополедолжнобытьзаполне as a person who played some quake2, and later a bit QL... i agree... watching this is a snoozefest... completely skillless people.. but it's roots i guess ; )) , even oldschool classic CS tournaments seem more skillful ; )) has QL evolved somewhere there, u mention ur top30... did they later eventually make some sort of matchmaking and mmr system there? Why don't some indie dev just make a quakelike.. put best parts of q1,2,3 together and create a modern arena shooter wich doesn't cater to fortnite kids? :))
Wow, these videos bring back some great memories for me. I used to spend hours playing these games, especially online. Thanks for posting.
Awesome, I remember this match. I love these old games, to bad the few servers left are empty.
they really are not empty...
Karol C which servers? Would love to get into Quake World!
@@goqsane yeah which servers
@@DelasVC go to quakeworld.nu :)
@@goqsane there really are people still online there? ty very much ;)
Must have been rough to have been so outmatched when Carmack's Ferrari was on the line.
Entropy wasnt soo much outmatched skill-wise, Thresh controlled the armor spawn right from the beginning and keep up his healthpacks, and denied Entropy the same
Somehow, it has taken me until 2020 to find this demo on decebal01US's channel. God damnit, better late than never I guess!
He won a ferrari...
And sold soon. You can check Tresh's interview. He told about that =)
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, when was this? makes me miss LAN parties and my 486DDX with my brand new fucking 56k modem, ya
Jaycee J. Read the video description for more info.
I might be playing qw again but last time I tried I couldn’t get any of the clients to run on a current version of macOS. Maybe they’ve been updated by now.
so , the first thing first, Quake was playing the 'brick and the cube'. brick is six sided, and cube is eight sided. Brick is 'the walls' , the cube put the textures. i guess, the id software engine, was the only one, ever, because "nobody made a close approach at the central unit, as Romero did. so , the first game was Q, but it was not rendered. then was 'gl.quake', and this was graphic acceleration card, support. for those of you who don't know, a PC at that time, had a S3 (Virge microchip licence) and if you had 3D acceleration in a pci slot, you could run a rendered quake 1. the thing is : when the quake was being designed, 'there was no 3d support'. i'm guessing. i'm just saying 'that the game was written as an Engine'. and , the Accelerator made the engine, better. as i read in a book , russian, the trick of the 'doom game', was 'that it was not doing a live rendering'. some frames was cold frozen, and 'dropped from the memory'. it made the game faster. what i id did, was : that destroyed a personal computers like atari and amiga. that has run the Microsoft for a garage computer selling , and the dos windows. so : if you seen , a Norton Commander, or Dos Navigator, then , you know when the 'evolution of the computer systems has stopped'. i never seen something better than Norton commander. really. windows is really stupid. windows is 'disconnected from the user'. also internet is disconnected from the science, because "the internet was designed as a technology learning place, a place where only an information on networks and programming related subject, not 'showing nude babes'. well. "one window , one thing ?" dumb. "thank you ID , for destroying great Motorola related, french designed games, that relayed on 'one cpu machine'. that's great, that's just great.
This can't be a real human, no way
Huh i didnt understend most what you wrote but are you trying to say that the quake and the doom engine arent 3d? Because if you are then you are wrong
What Kind of mouse had they been using back then?
a mouse with a ball :D lol..
first Microsoft Intelli Explorers came out later imho.. ~2001-2002 wich were optical (400dpi or 800dpi if im not mistaken) (wich were considered like gaming mouse back then...)
Some kind of mechanical mouse with a ball inside it, optic and laser wasn't around yet and there was no such thing as a gaming mouse. A fun fact is that Thresh was the guy who popularized WASD as movement keys. Not everyone used that back then.
@@Brukernavnn What did they use then?
@@miguelpereira9859 Back then, games were controlled by the arrow keys, the control key(Fire button), and in Dooms case the space bar for actions. Quake popularised the whole Mouse-Keyboard Combo.
Funny to watch a Quake 1 game before they discovered air control :)
Everybody knew that you can turn while jumpin. Just try it with a office ballmouse from 1997. When you discover a technique to stop the cursor jumping when you set the mouse back on the surface let everybody know please.
whoa buddy sorry if I offended your ancestors with that comment
You did not offend me at all. It's a common misconception. Unstable fps and a shitty mouse do not help the performance. This was before the pentium 2 and even before glquake if im not mistaken.
Also my ancestors played pong
Lmao
yes that's very true. Though I used a trackball for ages to game, so I really don't think a ball mouse would have been that bad with a higher sensitivity; I agree that it would still suck with bad fps and refresh rate. not to mention max resolution was 800x600 or something for the original game.
my point was just that it's funny to see how games evolve. It was the same thing in BF2, it was probably a good couple years before using TV missiles on choppers instead of just ground targets became the norm in the game. It's funny to me to see Quake 1 being played in this fashion, since the community is much different now.
+Herr Bert - air control in Quake (original Vanillaquake engine) didn't add speed. If you wanted to accelerate in air, you needed to push +forward. +forward did kill 95% of air control.
The speed gain was insignificant, you could gain like 30% speed in one roundjump (with nowadays knowledge) and them continue with +forward but you will hit the wall within few jumps as you couldn't turn :).
Quakeworld changes in engine brought acceleration during air time without +forward. So with QW, trick jumping was really worth it and therefor, exploited to perfection.
Also, you could hear lot more in original Quake so jumping was just great way to reveal your position :D
2:37 lol
No widescreen monitors with 1080p graphics back then, hehehe.
+notuern In 1997, game was played on 90 degree FOV. This replay was recorded on 110 degree FOV.
+AR7271 don't they call you stupid? Resolution has nothing to do with what is rendered.
El Shuwix i played with 120 fov back then just like most people played with high FOV.
its now days most people have gone down to 90-100.
El Shuwix Thats cute, if you had played the game at the time you would have known they used high fov.
I love it when people talk about things they dont know shit about. :D
You're cute.
110-120 fov with d_mipcap 4 was what pretty much all players used, i've been speedrunning the original Quake and playing Quake World on and off since the release(We can duel if you want ;) ).
But no point in discussing this anymore, you're making your self look like a jerk who don't know shit basically.
But yeah, maybe Thresh didn't use 110-120 fov like all the other pro-level players did back then, you're still uninformed though.
but , the screen you watch is flat, the CRT was not flat. "what difference" , a very big or huge. This game mixes 'reality' (because the weapons are not fantastical but realistic) with versatility, which is the very free choice , and "the speed of moving". game doesn't provide , looking out of the Corner, ducking, and it doesnt provide 'head shots'. which was never included in any 'id quake production', neither 'a quake enemy territory'. called 'quake wars'. so : the 4th quake team fortress really was a bomb. this demo is run on a new engine, not the old one, i'm not sure if there was simple items back then. is there a 'sv_gravity , run on this map? also 'fov' was a key. i played omicron bot on Dm2 , and Dm4, so "if you ask Rambo, what is quake, he's gonna say : it's my Houme". i think today we deserve a 'pointing device with a hand grip' rather than mouse. i play quake 2 with left hand. it makes impressions real. map 'the Edge' it's just crazy, Quake 2 is a masterpiece, i just love this game. it's so perfect. i saw one demo on dm2 somebody said "what you learned from Entropy , makes you really good", or something, because jumped 180degree , well 'he jumped across the lava, without opening the floor. you know. "i heard there is plenty camps , lately", kick boxing camps, karate camps, different camps. i am guessing, different camping grounds, gather some Campers. for all those who 'think about cherries collecting' cheers. dm4. so, where is the bad place. cos i wanna visit there. i also seen a cinema demo, about "a soldier who came back from stroggos planet, with his rail gun, to a family, that was pissing off him, and.. that was funny". he just came back from a war against aliens, and 'here is what he meets again'. Lame thing.
Every single video i can watch on youtube seems to load just fine, but for years i havent been able to watch more than ~30-60 seconds of your videos before they freeze and i have to wait another minute or so before they continue loading.. frustrating as hell.
notuern
Check your options.
If your settings will look for the best possible resolution, of course it will take time to load a 2160p 4K video :)
ChristianIce It has nothing to do with that.. even if i play it back at 240p it wont load.
I've been able to watch any videon on youtube without a hitch except on this channel, but now it seems to work.. finally! :)
Can you double jump in QW? Werent the physics CPM like?
You mean bunny hop? You can, but it wasn't invented then. Frustrating watching them walk around.
at least they can catch their opponent by surprise, they run all around unoticed since the steps make no noise at all XD, in Q3 or QL you gotta press the WALK button for that purpose and it's way slower.
this was done in vQuake
Not like a q2 double jump no.
Wonder where the car is now
he probably has a better car at this point. thresh is a multi millionaire
and after that the arc gun became meta
Still the greatest shooter ever.
4:06 zero chance of survival o_O
Colors on the items look really off... Wonder why...
+Ahmet Akyol I'm guessing he had the demo file and loaded it with some updated version of Quake someone's made.
vQuake to quake world
These aren't default q1 textures dooh...
www.nquake.com dooh.. a modern community qw
I remember =)
Man, THIS IS BORING! I remember watching this back in q2 days, like 1999 or so, it was boring already. No wonder Thresh didnt accomplish anything in competitive quake as we know it.
Go fuck yourself. Enjoy your 20 minutes of running back and forth collecting "nuances".
go back to pokemon online pls
You're a dumbass that should just shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. He's done more in competitive gaming and his personal life, than you'll EVER accomplish - NEWB!
ruclips.net/video/z3X17AE5x1M/видео.html
@Heroxigen !¿ make quake great again!
@@ФеофанЭтополедолжнобытьзаполне as a person who played some quake2, and later a bit QL... i agree... watching this is a snoozefest... completely skillless people.. but it's roots i guess ; )) , even oldschool classic CS tournaments seem more skillful ; ))
has QL evolved somewhere there, u mention ur top30... did they later eventually make some sort of matchmaking and mmr system there?
Why don't some indie dev just make a quakelike.. put best parts of q1,2,3 together and create a modern arena shooter wich doesn't cater to fortnite kids? :))