@@inse728 why would I want my car to be a video game rather then getting raw unique noise. Hyundai had to take the easy way out by making an EV for cheap speed..rather then creating an amazing engine
Hi Doug! love your reviews, I've owned one of these for a few months and need to correct some errors in your review and provide some additional facts\quirks you missed: The range is 448km\280miles - not your quoted 200 miles The digital speedo is available, you were just in sport mode which only has 2 gauges available. Normal and N mode have much more options available and both have digital speedometers. (there's even "classic" gauges too) You can also configure every setting in the N mode, when you hit the button twice it goes to N custom, so you can keep the much more sporty display, but still have traction control and soft suspension enabled There are 3 sound profiles for the simulated exhaust note. The other 2 are a bit more silly, but the jet one is fun as when you "change gear" at "high revs" it lets out sonic boom sounds out the back of the car. It's a really fun gimmick. Also on this, Hyundai have confirmed that more sounds will be coming via future updates, there hasn't been any updates since it's launch yet, but i suspect we will see it in the coming months The regen breaking offers a deceleration force of up to 0.6 G through regenerative braking alone, which is a leading figure in the industry The battery is 800volt which is also industry leading for its ability to withstand track driving with the battery preconditioning modes for track\drag The front seats are heated and ventilated as is the steering wheel The manual seats were intentional as the 5N already weighs in at 2.2 tonnes. I mean, who needs to adjust their seat anyway? (I've never understood this argument expect for large family cars) Lastly, you can control the car remotely via the Blulink app, check the 360 cameras, lock the doors, turn on climate control, etc Overall, I think this could’ve been a much longer video with a lot more details about how track focused this car is, and also with how many technical quirks combined with practicality rarely seen in this kind of package. I honestly feel this car is really pushing towards the future of fun and engaging driving is heading.
I've also owned one for a few months, welcome to the club! 🙃 I understand he can't include everything for brevity. Also 448km is WLTP, not EPA. And, what I just learned in this thread - the manual seats are so that you can sit lower in the car, which is awesome. It's almost as hard to get out as my lowered cr-z, which I see as a plus - as they said in the Hagerty vid, it's a full send car. (and you can also adjust the seats so high that my head almost hits the roof)
@@MilodeVries congratulations to you too then!, these things are the future for sure. Even with the EPA adjustment it should be about 250 Miles, not 200. In any case, good to know about the seat as well. I never really adjust my seat so I don't see what the big deal is. I just said it once then it's done forever 😅
If anyone is interested Misha Charoudin absolutely sent an Ioniq 5 N on the Nürburgring about a week ago over on his YT channel. It is one of the first electric performance cars he has driven on the ring that actually made it two full laps. If you're curious how this car would perform on the track its a great watch!
Haha, turns out the video you reference he has that toy ice sound on. I guess ppl like that but I do not, I like to hear tire contact and motor/gear whine.
@@bti-ro2vh The turn camera is a feature. What he said about Ioniq 5N is on a whole other level. It's the kind of grand implementation that would have a huge impact and influence in shaping the future of EVs.
Fun fact: the manual seats in the EV6 GT and Ioniq 5 N aren't really there to save weight, instead they are manual so the seat can be lower in the car. This means you can get into a more sporty, sedan like driving position.
Hyundai is the only company that integrates the LSD, motor, and reducer, and this is Hyundai's unique patent. Thanks to this, other companies have to use indirect cooling with coolant, but Hyundai can cool with oil, which allows it to manage heat much better than the Porsche Taycan or Tesla Model S Plaid and run longer on the track. If you drive a Tesla on a track, it will be faster in the beginning, but it will not be able to make a few turns and the power will be limited due to overheating. However, the Hyndai IONIQ 5N can run around the track all day with maximum power, and this is the best among all existing electric vehicles. The IONIQ 5N is the world's first mass-produced car to contain the drive shaft system used in the WRC. Of course, this is not a very advanced technology, but even BMW M and Mercedes AMG cannot use it because the production cost and unit cost are too high and the heat treatment, processing, and suspension assembly processes must all be changed to apply it to mass-produced cars. However, Hyundai applied this system even at the cost of giving up its own profits to improve the driving experience and reduce lap times. I thought Hyundai was a cheap car company that only pursued profits, but after seeing this, my impressions of Hyundai changed to a company of car enthusiasts who are crazy about the soul of motorsports. There is still a gap in technology, but their passion may make them more car enthusiasts than BMW M. I remember when Hyundai first entered the WRC. Almost every car fan in the world laughed at Hyundai. I also felt bad that a company like Hyundai dared to enter the WRC and thought that a company that made money by selling a lot of cheap cars would enter motorsports for marketing. But Hyundai won the WTCR over 20 times and won WRC twice in a row.
The letter N stands for Namyang, which is a district in South Korea. It's the birthplace of the N brand and where you'll find Hyundai's Global R&D Center. It also stands for the infamous Nürburgring racetrack in Germany.
I will never understand why people have a problem with manual seats. It’s just one less motor to break & its much faster to just adjust yourself than it is to wait for some slow motor to take 15 seconds to get you in place. It’s always been something I don’t get. I much prefer manual seat adjustments.
This, and you seriously set it only once, it's not like you grow on daily basis and have to change the seating position. I can understand it somewhat if there are multiple drivers, but it's still so silly to make such a fuss about it..
The N mode with simulated engine/gearbox is wild. If someone would have just described that to me, I would have said it was a stupid idea…but by all accounts it’s executed really well and people enjoy it.
Executed???? It's a joke. It's pathetic. Perhaps young kids will like it.....but anyone who has had a driver's license for 5yrs or more will you It's as lame as it gets.
@c0lutch u missing the point. It's not about how the car drives. It's getting excited about artificial noises and fake execution. RPM, shifting and sound don't even correlate to reality.
Got to do a Ride and Drive with Hyundai for the 5N at the Atlanta Speedway last week. It was rainy and gross so they wouldn’t let us drive it (boo.) But the professional driver that took us on an autocross course lap gave it all the beans. Genuinely surprised, and I agree… that simulated transmission was the bee’s knees. Even though I wasn’t driving, I could feel the driver “grabbing gears.” It was delightful.
@@jonesnbones Insurance doesn't buy the vehicle, they pay for it but the owner picks what they buy with the payout. And that's old news. Even when all that fiasco was going on, they werent even on the top rankings for most stolen cars in the US. You're just a parrot who can't think.
Hyundai really knows what they're doing with performance vehicles, the siumulated shifting and RPMs is a super cool feature that will help 'non believers' like the car more and makes it more fun for everyone else.
I have now owned the Ioniq 5 N for over a month and it is truly a magnificent vehicle. A solid 9 out of 10 and one of those rare cars we will look back on as truly transformative for its time. There are a few improvement areas, most notably its range and turning radius, but I can easily look past that considering how good it is. Superb vehicle and one that makes my 991.2 Carrera T being left in the garage more than it should…
Yeah I love mine too, and given what I see around me, eg on the nürburgring and in the comments and what the other reviews say - I think Hyundai is going to sell quite a lot, and they could even maintain value quite decently, esp if you manage to keep the matte paint good (part of the reason why I wrapped it)
This tech basically allows any EV to be a simulator platform for any other car, be it real or imagined. I predict we'll see content packages you can buy later for your EV, and manufacturers of iconic cars making a lot of money with engine sound, gearbox & torque curve content. How many owners of Ioniq 5 N would buy a simulation of Ferrari 250 GTO? Or an early aircooled 911? Or a 2CV to experience how slow cars used to be?
Yesterday watched Misha's vid of him in one running with another Ioniq N owner, both ripping around the Nordschleife. Impressive stuff. Could even do two laps with over 40% battery left, when no other EV he's driven on the Ring so far barely gets thru a single lap without its battery complaining.
Even with the sloping rear hatch, the Ioniq is amazingly spacious. I used it to move and i was able to load an insane amount of stuff into the car. Including a 45" diameter dining table and 4 chairs.
Fun Fact: the evolution engine sound is from a video game/sim racing game. The evolution sound is the same sound taken from the N Vision Gran Turismo 2025 from Gran Turismo Sport & Gran Turismo 7, the car that technically launched the N brand to the public. That car was a hydrogen EV prototype racer. Evolution's one of 3 sounds you can pick. Ignition is the one doug showed, evolution is the EV sound, and Supersonic is an (honestly terrible) jet engine inspired sound with sonic booms on upshift
He should have at least mentioned how it detects curvy road signs and then suggests N mode (sport plus). Adaptive regen breaking is also quite amazing I found, as are the ventilated seats. The nav is horrible though
@@MilodeVries I wouldn't say it is horrible, I have a normal Ioniq 5. But I don't know why you would use built in nav when you could use Waze through Carplay or Android Auto.
@@BeepasGarage well my use case is finding a charger while on the road. I just want a somewhat decent experience to find a fast one, ideally 300kW/800V, on my route. Ok perhaps I should enter the route in the nav, but just searching for chargers was so horrible, it kept on suggesting me 11kW chargers etc. However, I think in the next big update, we'll get Google maps integration so that that knows about SoC, then we're golden
i wish hyundai would make an over the air update for the car that allows u to make ur ioniq 5 n sound like anything you want, it would be funny to see one of these things tear past u with a big rig engine sound 😂
I have no doubt it can be user modded in, or will be in the future. It's a very complex thing, but has already been simulated in extremely accurate video games
My grandfather bought one of those brand new Ford Model T’s back in 1909. He wanted metallic silver as his colour choice but they told him he could choose any colour as long as it was black. Instead, he opted for the only other extra available a “Clippity-Clop” soundtrack through the speakers. He missed that horse-drawn carriage so much …
Out of all the sportscar brands out there, it's little hyundai that gave us what we want in EV; ICE simulation. EV Cayman replacement better be like this...
Yeah I'm surprised it took an automaker so long to do this. Toyota? Patented EV manual transmission tech (simulating a clutch pedal, friction zone, and gear torque curves) it would be so cool if someone did that in an EV. Imagine when you are bored and want to have fun driving an EV with 3 pedals, and when you aren't in that kind of mood simply put it in "classic EV" mode and ignore the clutch and shifter! Someone has to do that, it's the next step up from what Hyundai did here!
Some manufacturer will come out with a 3 pedal gated manual shifter for their sports car. You'll be able to simulate 3 pedal driving when you want the thrill and switch back to "1 pedal" driving on your daily commute.
@@volvo09 yeah but i think thats a good thing, it sounds like an electric car, not like its trying to sound real, kinda sounds like something youd drive in cyberpunk, kinda dope actually
Don't give much value to what anyone says handles great, it's kinda subjective, however that weekend score being barely higher than the Mach-e even though you can literally track this car out of the factory shows how little the doug score means, can't wait for Savagegeese with their review doug is just an entertainment channel not a car review channel
My Renault Clio had an engine sound simulator like that with a number of options, best by far was a 12 cylinder engine from some 1930's roadster. Used to blow passengers minds when you turned it on.
One can adjust manual seats so much more quickly. We have two old school vehicles, one with manual seats, oddly, the older one with electric. I'm 6'2", wife is 5'5". Electric seat are so slow.
I always find it weird when reviewers complain about cars having manual seat adjustment, unless the electric ones come with the option to set presets i don't see the point
Wrong, 30 sec vs whatever sec is nothing. Also electric seats can remember their adjustments so it's a simple one button press, vs manual seats spending days trying to get it just 'right' where it was perfect again
Manual seats are highly underrated IMO. I absolutely loathe having to wait for the seats in modern cars to mosey over to where I need them when I could have just pulled a bar and been there in ten seconds. I would much rather have comfortable cloth manual seats than the "luxurious" experience of sitting on ice cold leather waiting for my seat to arrive at it's destination so I can start driving. Just one more reason for me to bump this car to the top of my list of potential replacements for my current car when the time comes.
I've recently seen someone with one of those (Manufacturer Plates) here in Germany at the Nürburgring. Despite being a SUV, it does extremely well around the Ring! Hyundai is definitely creating very exciting Stuff! Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
No sure if it was overlooked or if you didn’t know Doug, but Hyundai did add more sound options, they have a engine sound, a electric “evolution” sound and a third sound called super sonic I think, suppose to sound like a jet and let’s out a sonic boom when shifting. It’s not a v8 or v12 but it’s a little quirk for sure
electric seats fall under the same category as those stupidly slow electric tail gates. I really don't get it. Have both in one of the cars I own and it just annoying. Especially when you switch between drivers and it takes forever to move the seat around.
As if the most accurate and incredible simulations in existence, made from real recordings of legendary vehicles, could be a bad thing. Top tip, it sounds way better than whatever you're playing through your crappy TV speakers
You have to track it to feel not only like, but BETTER than a Golf R. Many people said it as good if not better than the Porsche Tay an Turbo S around corners and curves on the track.
Doug, PLEASE make a presentation vid giving us a chance to see the public's reaction to you driving those super/hyper cars, (gas pump visits, etc.) AND have a crew member film you from another vehicle so we can see you zoom on the highway instead of just the "in the car" view!
@@DannerBanks He's ALSO pretty good at responding to viewer requests! I asked for ONE vid! Not that he would change his style. I know he's busy, but he"ll probably DO it in the near future anyway. Thx.
That simulated transmission is the one thing I wanted in an electric car! I love shifting gears when I’m driving, and I’m not a fan of having a single gear.
I agree with Doug that it probably won’t sell well, but I think Hyundai knows that too. It seems to be a showcase for new tech and ideas rather than a mass market product. The fake shifting is done surprisingly well and I think it works because it’s kinda like a sim racing rig, I can see people like me who grew up playing racing games finding it fun
Say you buy an electric Supercar and you get to pick the engine sound from every car in their lineup.....Heaven. This tech is definitely the future of sport EV's
Was looking forward to this video and like Doug videos generally. He definitely made some good points and was glad to see it placed at the top of the leaderboard. However, when he said it's not as good handling as a Golf R, it shows me that he's not much of a driver around the track. This thing would leave an R in a heartbeat around a decent track, let alone in a straight line. Watch the many other videos, especially Misha on the Nurburgring, following one of the chief drivers / engineers for Hyandai and tell me different. Or Harris review. For reference channel with initial TH, their track here were the results Golf R - 114.48 Type R - 114.41 Tesla Plaid normal - 112.50 Ionic 5N - 112.44 About the only EV i would consider looking at once prices come down.
Wrong and stupid comment. He loves the simulated manual not the sound, pay attention, and nobody should ever like manual seats, when it gets changed for whatever reason you have to spend days trying to get it 'right' again
Truly is. Some people might hate it, but those people are usually also the one's that aren't at all in the market for it. Those who are however generally tend to really like it. ( it's a good idea ;) )
As with most things that I learn about, I understand both opinions on the simulated engine noises and vibrations and stuff. I understand the issue of trying to make an EV look, feel and sound like a classic V8 or something, and trying to convince every car enthusiast that this is the same as those classics, or “better” or something. It’s like trying to use 2D shaders or filters on a CGI character model and try to use that style to trick the audience that this is the same as actual 2D animation, when in reality, it’s just a Toon shader or something and a lower frame rate made to mimic the 2D frame by frame style. However…that doesn’t mean that style of animation is bad or anything, and it does have its use cases, and it can be used to create a unique aesthetic if utilized creatively enough! Same thing with the simulated revving and shifting on performance EVs! It isn’t bad in itself! It’s actually quite cool, and it’s a great option for people who want it! But personally, I think that this feature could be used more creatively! And I don’t just mean giving the driver the ability to configure their own settings for the revving noises or the redline or clutch simulation. I think…it would be cool, if there were microphones near the motors that if selected, could pick up the actual noises of the electric motors whirring and buzzing, and actually project the real motor noises through the speakers! Double points if they can have the accelerator actually make the motors spin in place and spin faster depending on how hard you’re revving! And for more smaller compact EV sport cars like coupes, roadsters, or even just hybrid versions of regular sports cars, they can actually marry a real, true manual shifter, clutch and all, (no simulated shifting except some minor electric assistance if opted into/as needed) to an electric or hybrid motor that also spins as you rev the engine! I think if done right, this could be a really cool return for mid budget enthusiast cars with actual manual transmissions that just have optional electronic assistance rather than just a fully simulated manual. (Not that those are bad, btw. But having a genuine manual transmission that just happens to be connected an electric motor and has a few modern electronic assistance features would be pretty dang cool! Imo at least!)
Same people thinking genesis are exquisite only because they copy bentley design....I had the GV70 for 1 year and was the worst nightmare I've ever had!!
@@trstnhn Feel free to get one and risk by yourself buddy. You'll likely have better luck than mine. I owned an high mileage 2007 jaguar XJ8 a couple of years ago and I drove through Alberta winters with the vehicle,;it was bulletproof, even though everyone said I was going to get big troubles from it. You never know.
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I can already see the electric shifts being Doug Awards biggest Quirk winner at the end of the year
Tbh if it's not the quirk of the year this channel dies
Better yet, the redline on the tach
It's gonna be one of those things we look back in like 20 years and be like "yeah that's so '20s" like all the wacky stuff they did in the 80s
@@rosestrohm7986I’m not so sure. I hope not, because I’d hate for vehicles to become something that fails to ignite any passion or driving enjoyment.
When I first thought about that I was too gimiky. Doug knows fun & if he says its fun who am I to argue. This might be genius actually.
Doug the type of guy to ask the waitress what's the damage
I don't know why, but I laughed way too hard at this one
LMAOOOO
😭😭😭😭
I dont get it
That sounds like a tyler hoover thing more
Who would have thought that nowadays, Hyundai would become an enthusiast brand, and they are still one of the few that managed to make a cool EV.
What about the Renault 5 E-Tech?
No EV is for enthusiasts lmao. Idc that it pipes in fake noise
@@G82Watts Even as an enthusiast u gotta admit the way hyundai implemented everything in this car is pretty cool. The car is like a video game.
@@inse728 why would I want my car to be a video game rather then getting raw unique noise. Hyundai had to take the easy way out by making an EV for cheap speed..rather then creating an amazing engine
@@G82Watts It would be 10x cooler if it didn't do fake sounds and gear changes. Now it's just an EV with an identity crisis lmao.
Hi Doug! love your reviews, I've owned one of these for a few months and need to correct some errors in your review and provide some additional facts\quirks you missed:
The range is 448km\280miles - not your quoted 200 miles
The digital speedo is available, you were just in sport mode which only has 2 gauges available. Normal and N mode have much more options available and both have digital speedometers. (there's even "classic" gauges too)
You can also configure every setting in the N mode, when you hit the button twice it goes to N custom, so you can keep the much more sporty display, but still have traction control and soft suspension enabled
There are 3 sound profiles for the simulated exhaust note. The other 2 are a bit more silly, but the jet one is fun as when you "change gear" at "high revs" it lets out sonic boom sounds out the back of the car. It's a really fun gimmick.
Also on this, Hyundai have confirmed that more sounds will be coming via future updates, there hasn't been any updates since it's launch yet, but i suspect we will see it in the coming months
The regen breaking offers a deceleration force of up to 0.6 G through regenerative braking alone, which is a leading figure in the industry
The battery is 800volt which is also industry leading for its ability to withstand track driving with the battery preconditioning modes for track\drag
The front seats are heated and ventilated as is the steering wheel
The manual seats were intentional as the 5N already weighs in at 2.2 tonnes. I mean, who needs to adjust their seat anyway? (I've never understood this argument expect for large family cars)
Lastly, you can control the car remotely via the Blulink app, check the 360 cameras, lock the doors, turn on climate control, etc
Overall, I think this could’ve been a much longer video with a lot more details about how track focused this car is, and also with how many technical quirks combined with practicality rarely seen in this kind of package. I honestly feel this car is really pushing towards the future of fun and engaging driving is heading.
please like and comment so Doug can see this
@@ShufflerBluey of course you owned one for a few months 🤔🙄
@@bestcrazyboy8487 What's your point?
I've also owned one for a few months, welcome to the club! 🙃
I understand he can't include everything for brevity. Also 448km is WLTP, not EPA. And, what I just learned in this thread - the manual seats are so that you can sit lower in the car, which is awesome. It's almost as hard to get out as my lowered cr-z, which I see as a plus - as they said in the Hagerty vid, it's a full send car. (and you can also adjust the seats so high that my head almost hits the roof)
@@MilodeVries congratulations to you too then!, these things are the future for sure.
Even with the EPA adjustment it should be about 250 Miles, not 200. In any case, good to know about the seat as well. I never really adjust my seat so I don't see what the big deal is. I just said it once then it's done forever 😅
If anyone is interested Misha Charoudin absolutely sent an Ioniq 5 N on the Nürburgring about a week ago over on his YT channel. It is one of the first electric performance cars he has driven on the ring that actually made it two full laps. If you're curious how this car would perform on the track its a great watch!
I love the sound of electrics on the track. you get to hear the contact dynamics much better, get a better feel for what is happening
I think it's the only one to make it 2 laps.
Thanks for recommending this, I thoroughly enjoyed it and hot damn it's really something special
@@LichaelMewis so the lucid also does two laps, and is surprisingly capable. But still less fun, and way more expensive.
Haha, turns out the video you reference he has that toy ice sound on. I guess ppl like that but I do not, I like to hear tire contact and motor/gear whine.
To hear a big time youtuber say a Hyundai feature should be a benchmark for future EVs. What a time to be alive lol
Onlt ither time he said that was for the turn signal caneras in the cluster
@@bti-ro2vh The turn camera is a feature. What he said about Ioniq 5N is on a whole other level. It's the kind of grand implementation that would have a huge impact and influence in shaping the future of EVs.
Omg Hyundai not traditional sports car so funny
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@@trstnhn Absolutely. Doug has been saying for the turn camera for years now, but not too many takers.
Doug is the type of guy to say “three inches in front and three inches in back” with a straight face.
Yeah, made me think back to good times with your mom.
@@jeffdean4386bruh 😂
DP - Doug Problems
@@jeffdean4386 that's no way to brag about your microwiener
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Fun fact: the manual seats in the EV6 GT and Ioniq 5 N aren't really there to save weight, instead they are manual so the seat can be lower in the car. This means you can get into a more sporty, sedan like driving position.
That makes perfect sense! Thanks for the clarification. Im not the right age demographic for this car, buts its awesome
@@christiandulaney1638 Don't let your 'demographic' stop you from buying then the regular version IONIC5.
Lol. You're in a crappy hatchback. Too funny
Yep and who cares about power seats anyway. Set it once and forget it.
@@lincolnmarklt average f150 driver
Hyundai is the only company that integrates the LSD, motor, and reducer, and this is Hyundai's unique patent. Thanks to this, other companies have to use indirect cooling with coolant, but Hyundai can cool with oil, which allows it to manage heat much better than the Porsche Taycan or Tesla Model S Plaid and run longer on the track. If you drive a Tesla on a track, it will be faster in the beginning, but it will not be able to make a few turns and the power will be limited due to overheating. However, the Hyndai IONIQ 5N can run around the track all day with maximum power, and this is the best among all existing electric vehicles.
The IONIQ 5N is the world's first mass-produced car to contain the drive shaft system used in the WRC. Of course, this is not a very advanced technology, but even BMW M and Mercedes AMG cannot use it because the production cost and unit cost are too high and the heat treatment, processing, and suspension assembly processes must all be changed to apply it to mass-produced cars.
However, Hyundai applied this system even at the cost of giving up its own profits to improve the driving experience and reduce lap times. I thought Hyundai was a cheap car company that only pursued profits, but after seeing this, my impressions of Hyundai changed to a company of car enthusiasts who are crazy about the soul of motorsports. There is still a gap in technology, but their passion may make them more car enthusiasts than BMW M.
I remember when Hyundai first entered the WRC. Almost every car fan in the world laughed at Hyundai. I also felt bad that a company like Hyundai dared to enter the WRC and thought that a company that made money by selling a lot of cheap cars would enter motorsports for marketing. But Hyundai won the WTCR over 20 times and won WRC twice in a row.
Thanks for the information!!
Hyundai should hire this person as a marketing manager 😅
What's the patent number?
@@g3t3i7 KR20140137781A 모터 일체형 인버터 패키지 및 이에 적용되는 일체형 인버터
US20170349054A1 Integrated module of on-board charger and inverter and control method thereof
@@g3t3i7 KR20140137781A 모터 일체형 인버터 패키지 및 이에 적용되는 일체형 인버터
US20170349054A1 Integrated module of on-board charger and inverter and control method thereof
It sounds like collecting coins in a video game when it hits "red line" 😂
The letter N stands for Namyang, which is a district in South Korea. It's the birthplace of the N brand and where you'll find Hyundai's Global R&D Center. It also stands for the infamous Nürburgring racetrack in Germany.
The guy behind the N brand at Hyundai (Albert Biermann) came from BMW M division. What's the next letter in the alphabet after M?
S
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I’m pretty sure it means no.
So that's the N word I was thinking about 🤔
I will never understand why people have a problem with manual seats. It’s just one less motor to break & its much faster to just adjust yourself than it is to wait for some slow motor to take 15 seconds to get you in place. It’s always been something I don’t get. I much prefer manual seat adjustments.
This, and you seriously set it only once, it's not like you grow on daily basis and have to change the seating position. I can understand it somewhat if there are multiple drivers, but it's still so silly to make such a fuss about it..
It’s nice if combined with memory seats if more than one person regularly drives a car. Other than that I totally agree
Its not the fact that they're manual seats. Its the fact that you're paying 60k+ for electric car, at this price point manual seats are unforgivable
I have manual seats in my Type R and have no issues with it, don’t see the big deal. At least they’re heated in this thing.
Manual seats are absolutely OK, and 10x better than electric seats without memory
The N mode with simulated engine/gearbox is wild. If someone would have just described that to me, I would have said it was a stupid idea…but by all accounts it’s executed really well and people enjoy it.
Executed???? It's a joke. It's pathetic. Perhaps young kids will like it.....but anyone who has had a driver's license for 5yrs or more will you It's as lame as it gets.
Only because of the sound they chose, you have to drive it to understand why it's actually good @@cccc9911
@@cccc9911so you’ve driven the car? What about is pathetic?
@c0lutch u missing the point. It's not about how the car drives. It's getting excited about artificial noises and fake execution. RPM, shifting and sound don't even correlate to reality.
@@cccc9911 Yes, a car is not about how it drives, its about the sound it makes on the inside, lmao
With all the reviews, from Throttle House, Raiti's Rides, Car Confections, Hagerty...everyone has thier take and features.
Keep up the great work!!!
Got to do a Ride and Drive with Hyundai for the 5N at the Atlanta Speedway last week. It was rainy and gross so they wouldn’t let us drive it (boo.) But the professional driver that took us on an autocross course lap gave it all the beans.
Genuinely surprised, and I agree… that simulated transmission was the bee’s knees. Even though I wasn’t driving, I could feel the driver “grabbing gears.” It was delightful.
Hyundai has some undeniably compelling vehicles.
I've been considering buying an Ioniq 5 after learning about it. Though the 2024 model seems like a downgrade from the 2023 model
This has to be a bot
Hyundai is doing what Nissan, Toyota, and Honda did in the early/mid 90's and it's pretty awesome.
Give their owners initial cars away to criminals so the insurance will buy a more expensive vehicle? Awesome!
In what way exactly?
except reliability
@@AlbertaBob2024Which current Japanese car manufacturers are forgetting about.
@@jonesnbones Insurance doesn't buy the vehicle, they pay for it but the owner picks what they buy with the payout. And that's old news. Even when all that fiasco was going on, they werent even on the top rankings for most stolen cars in the US. You're just a parrot who can't think.
Doug casually vacationing in Europe and still dropping bangers on the regular
Because they are premade and uploaded weeks or a month in advance and scheduled to go live.
@@volvo096 months
Is the concept of preparing videos weeks in advance foreign to you?
Shhhh, don’t disturb him. He was impatient and happy to dig into his bag of clichés in order to appear clever. Now you’ve burst his bubble.
The concept of not being a bellend foreign to you? @@troletrain
Hyundai really knows what they're doing with performance vehicles, the siumulated shifting and RPMs is a super cool feature that will help 'non believers' like the car more and makes it more fun for everyone else.
I have now owned the Ioniq 5 N for over a month and it is truly a magnificent vehicle. A solid 9 out of 10 and one of those rare cars we will look back on as truly transformative for its time. There are a few improvement areas, most notably its range and turning radius, but I can easily look past that considering how good it is. Superb vehicle and one that makes my 991.2 Carrera T being left in the garage more than it should…
Congrats on the N, hope I get a chance to experience one at some point. preferably as owner but passenger would suffice 😎
Yeah I love mine too, and given what I see around me, eg on the nürburgring and in the comments and what the other reviews say - I think Hyundai is going to sell quite a lot, and they could even maintain value quite decently, esp if you manage to keep the matte paint good (part of the reason why I wrapped it)
Congratulations. Can't believe Doug thinks this doesn't handle as well as a Golf R. Maybe you could tell me your opinion as you own one.
Lol. Ok
How aren't you so completely embarrassed to be seen in this? 😂
It is hilarious that the "engine sound" feature has the sound of effect of a video game car.
Yeah it sounds too fake.
Love the feature, don't really like the sound.
This tech basically allows any EV to be a simulator platform for any other car, be it real or imagined. I predict we'll see content packages you can buy later for your EV, and manufacturers of iconic cars making a lot of money with engine sound, gearbox & torque curve content. How many owners of Ioniq 5 N would buy a simulation of Ferrari 250 GTO? Or an early aircooled 911? Or a 2CV to experience how slow cars used to be?
Engine sound? It’s like a VeggieBurger that claims it tastes just like Beef.
@@volvo09 Eh still better than the Charger EV
@@NomenClature-o8sYou ever had a McPlant? Genuinely probably better than their beef.
Who else agrees that Hyundai has dramatically changed over the past years?
They are now making really BEAUTIFUL machines.
yeah, the N Vision 74 is just 😍
If only they were more reliable :( .
Not only Hyundai. Korea is making a freaking mark in the auto industry in general.
@@pinkacehyundai is the only korean auto maker I believe? since Kia is owned by hyundai
@@blackcow8114 I would say Daewoo had a pretty big influence on GM, even if they've been rolled up into Chevy.
Doug is the type of guy who "has to interpret" an analog speedometer.
I thought this was funny. As if his countach has a digital speedo 🙄
Hyundai is just having fun at this point and I’m here for it
Yesterday watched Misha's vid of him in one running with another Ioniq N owner, both ripping around the Nordschleife. Impressive stuff. Could even do two laps with over 40% battery left, when no other EV he's driven on the Ring so far barely gets thru a single lap without its battery complaining.
Even with the sloping rear hatch, the Ioniq is amazingly spacious. I used it to move and i was able to load an insane amount of stuff into the car. Including a 45" diameter dining table and 4 chairs.
20:53 Delica casually passing😂
Glad someone else saw it!
He gave it a good look! I was hoping he'd mention it
for somebody who loves car spotting so much idk how he didn't mention that, maybe to keep the reviews "professional"
I saw it and I scrolled down in the comments hoping to be the first one to mention it. The Delica is in my top 10 dream cars
That's all I saw! 😂
One biggest improvement from the previous Ioniq 5 to this facelift version is the rear windshield wiper.
The facelift model also have rear wiper and a new N-line trim
They heard the people, they complied ... That's awesome
THIS... needs to be a pinned comment. the rear wiper is major
Fun Fact: the evolution engine sound is from a video game/sim racing game. The evolution sound is the same sound taken from the N Vision Gran Turismo 2025 from Gran Turismo Sport & Gran Turismo 7, the car that technically launched the N brand to the public. That car was a hydrogen EV prototype racer. Evolution's one of 3 sounds you can pick. Ignition is the one doug showed, evolution is the EV sound, and Supersonic is an (honestly terrible) jet engine inspired sound with sonic booms on upshift
Doug the type of guy that records videos and uploads to RUclips for us to watch.
If i had to choose an electric car, this would definitely be it.
I will 100% be looking for a used one of these in 3-4 years.
Being the generation I am, there's no chance I could ever afford even that, we've been screwed out of everything
@@cenciende9401 EVs depreciate like crazy
Its a Hyundai, they will be less then 15k in a few years@@cenciende9401
By that point range will have gone down to about 170 😂
@@cenciende9401 EVs have been depreciating quickly. An EV6 GT can be had for $40k and they were brand new in showrooms for $60k a year ago.
Doug, I can't believe you missed the setting to change the shift sounds. Jason Camisa showed it in his video.
Came to the comments to say this. Rare miss from Doug.
@@SimonVelazquez He misses quite a bit tbh, or doesn't understand why a quirk is there at times
He should have at least mentioned how it detects curvy road signs and then suggests N mode (sport plus). Adaptive regen breaking is also quite amazing I found, as are the ventilated seats. The nav is horrible though
@@MilodeVries I wouldn't say it is horrible, I have a normal Ioniq 5. But I don't know why you would use built in nav when you could use Waze through Carplay or Android Auto.
@@BeepasGarage well my use case is finding a charger while on the road. I just want a somewhat decent experience to find a fast one, ideally 300kW/800V, on my route. Ok perhaps I should enter the route in the nav, but just searching for chargers was so horrible, it kept on suggesting me 11kW chargers etc.
However, I think in the next big update, we'll get Google maps integration so that that knows about SoC, then we're golden
As an owner of Ioniq 5 N I have to watch Doug to learn about my cars features and menu options. Because half of those I haven’t even found yet.
I honestly think this will be an historically important car.
Nah, the Tesla S will be an historically important electric car. The 1st mass produced/mainstream electric car.
@@basshead. i think that's just not true .
@@lolololo-cx4dp The Model S is like a Model T, bro.
@@basshead. the statement saying it was the first mass produced electric car it's just not true
@@lolololo-cx4dp yes, it is.
I remember back in the day hanging out with my friend while he detailed Excels that just sold brand new. Never thought I'd see a $70,000 Hyundai.
Genesis are 100k Hyundais
Is Doug the kind of guy to drive around with the left turn signal engaged to see the digital speed display?😂
Doug is a type of a guy to check his breath before answering the phone
i wish hyundai would make an over the air update for the car that allows u to make ur ioniq 5 n sound like anything you want, it would be funny to see one of these things tear past u with a big rig engine sound 😂
Someone will hack and patch...maybe even diesel locomotive, hmmmm
I have no doubt it can be user modded in, or will be in the future. It's a very complex thing, but has already been simulated in extremely accurate video games
I doubt any sound you install onto the car will be synced with its rpm, rev, shifts, etc.
@@trstnhnWhy not though, you just need to plug into the existing system to get that
shifts now sound like slapping two wet fish together and RPM is a very long moan that gets gradually higher pitch
21:05 is nobody gonna comment on the glorious vehicle out the window?? 😮
Yes, yes. Lovely Delica. :)
Nobody:
Doug: “ENNNNN!!!”
r/uselessnobody
@@Lorentz_Driver somehow your meme is even cringier than OP's.
Revving sound from Gran Turismo 2!
😂 literally
Wrong. are your ears broken?
It's not great, but it definitely sounds better in person
@@cenciende9401ARE YOURS????
Somehow a Hyundai managed to be 5 short of tying the DougScore with the McLaren F1. Think about that for a second.
That just proves how flawed the system is. All EVs should automatically have a -1 or 2 points for having to charge like a toy car every where you go.
as someone with a hot hatch, this is not a hot hatch. but i respect it, needs to be lowered
Its not really a hot hatch, its a crossover
My grandfather bought one of those brand new Ford Model T’s back in 1909. He wanted metallic silver as his colour choice but they told him he could choose any colour as long as it was black. Instead, he opted for the only other extra available a “Clippity-Clop” soundtrack through the speakers. He missed that horse-drawn carriage so much …
That little red line makes it go faster, didnt you know
It's Orange. Luminous Orange to be specific.
right, it adds 15 more horsepower
Remember back when ICE vehicles needed a foot-wide stripe all the way down to get the same effect. EV efficiency is amazing!
doug is the type of guy to forget that the ioniq 5 N simulated sounds have multiple noises to pick from
Only one "engine" sound though. The others are not car sounds.
Out of all the sportscar brands out there, it's little hyundai that gave us what we want in EV; ICE simulation. EV Cayman replacement better be like this...
Yeah I'm surprised it took an automaker so long to do this.
Toyota? Patented EV manual transmission tech (simulating a clutch pedal, friction zone, and gear torque curves) it would be so cool if someone did that in an EV.
Imagine when you are bored and want to have fun driving an EV with 3 pedals, and when you aren't in that kind of mood simply put it in "classic EV" mode and ignore the clutch and shifter!
Someone has to do that, it's the next step up from what Hyundai did here!
@@volvo09 Toyota can't even make a proper commuter EV yet.
Some manufacturer will come out with a 3 pedal gated manual shifter for their sports car. You'll be able to simulate 3 pedal driving when you want the thrill and switch back to "1 pedal" driving on your daily commute.
GM is actually considering that for the next gen Camaro
I wonder if this is why we have so much animal hide in our cars, people missed it from when they transitioned to cars from horses
Ioniq 5 N will beat 98.9% of the cars Doug has reviewed so far. Ioniq 5 N is a beast.
The engine sounds like it was straight from beamng drive 💀
Yeah it sounds TOO video gamey.
@@volvo09 yeah but i think thats a good thing, it sounds like an electric car, not like its trying to sound real, kinda sounds like something youd drive in cyberpunk, kinda dope actually
They can and will update the sounds. Very simple to do. Not like you have to buy and install a new exhaust system, lol.
Sounds like someone took the exhaust note and put it through autotune 😂 really silly sounding
Doug is the type of guy to drop his pants to his ankles when using a urinal
Doug is a type of a guy to wear bikini at the beach party
Would you complain about manual seats in a Porsche 911 GT3 which costs way more umm no you wouldn’t.
Funny how everyone else said it handles great.
Are you seriously comparing these two cars? I don’t even know where to start …
Don't give much value to what anyone says handles great, it's kinda subjective, however that weekend score being barely higher than the Mach-e even though you can literally track this car out of the factory shows how little the doug score means, can't wait for Savagegeese with their review doug is just an entertainment channel not a car review channel
My Renault Clio had an engine sound simulator like that with a number of options, best by far was a 12 cylinder engine from some 1930's roadster. Used to blow passengers minds when you turned it on.
We need a shirt that’s says “Cool and Performancey”
Dougism
Porsche manual seats: 👍🏽
Hyundai manual seats: 👎🏽
Meh. I want a Hyundai N Vision 74 !
One can adjust manual seats so much more quickly. We have two old school vehicles, one with manual seats, oddly, the older one with electric. I'm 6'2", wife is 5'5". Electric seat are so slow.
Yeah, and they are lighter (kind of irrelevant in an EV) but manual seats are fine.
I always find it weird when reviewers complain about cars having manual seat adjustment, unless the electric ones come with the option to set presets i don't see the point
I also prefer manual seats
Wrong, 30 sec vs whatever sec is nothing. Also electric seats can remember their adjustments so it's a simple one button press, vs manual seats spending days trying to get it just 'right' where it was perfect again
My car knows who I am and it adjusts automatically when my wife takes it out. But it’s not that big of an issue because I bought my wife her own Benz.
Manual seats are highly underrated IMO. I absolutely loathe having to wait for the seats in modern cars to mosey over to where I need them when I could have just pulled a bar and been there in ten seconds. I would much rather have comfortable cloth manual seats than the "luxurious" experience of sitting on ice cold leather waiting for my seat to arrive at it's destination so I can start driving.
Just one more reason for me to bump this car to the top of my list of potential replacements for my current car when the time comes.
I was eating at In-N-Out yesterday in the car and a white one pulled up right next to me. Really cool looking but I can’t get over it’s a Hyundai
I've recently seen someone with one of those (Manufacturer Plates) here in Germany at the Nürburgring. Despite being a SUV, it does extremely well around the Ring!
Hyundai is definitely creating very exciting Stuff!
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
If only the Ionic 5 was like, 30% smaller, I would absolutely have one in my driveway
Wait till you find out about the ioniq 6 🤣
Are you a female? What an embarrassing thing to say 😂
@@rowdymatt yea cause the styling of the ionic 6 is so similar to the ionic 5, right?!?
@@lincolnmarklt because only women like normal hatchbacks.. apparently
@@lincolnmarklt I think they just want it to weigh less and be more nimble, SUVs are just impractically big
Mitsubishi Delica jumpscare 21:05
The Ioniq 5n is also the ultimate super EV, but I am waiting for the higher-end Ioniq 6n and Genesis Magma.
No sure if it was overlooked or if you didn’t know Doug, but Hyundai did add more sound options, they have a engine sound, a electric “evolution” sound and a third sound called super sonic I think, suppose to sound like a jet and let’s out a sonic boom when shifting. It’s not a v8 or v12 but it’s a little quirk for sure
Why do car journalists hate manual seats so much? They’re lightweight, easier to clean under the seat, and faster to adjust.
Probably because they are always used to high trim vehicles and never really see manual seats anymore.
They don’t hate manual seats. You just come to expect them at the 70k level
electric seats fall under the same category as those stupidly slow electric tail gates. I really don't get it. Have both in one of the cars I own and it just annoying. Especially when you switch between drivers and it takes forever to move the seat around.
I can finally live my dream of Gran Turismo sim racing while on the road with the same exact sound effects lmfao
As if the most accurate and incredible simulations in existence, made from real recordings of legendary vehicles, could be a bad thing. Top tip, it sounds way better than whatever you're playing through your crappy TV speakers
“Man can't read an speedometer, more news at 11.”
You have to track it to feel not only like, but BETTER than a Golf R. Many people said it as good if not better than the Porsche Tay an Turbo S around corners and curves on the track.
0:50 "...and oh boy, it is quirky and featury." 🤣
Classic!
Doug, PLEASE make a presentation vid giving us a chance to see the public's reaction to you driving those super/hyper cars, (gas pump visits, etc.) AND have a crew member film you from another vehicle so we can see you zoom on the highway instead of just the "in the car" view!
The likelihood of doug changing his production style is near zero. Watch Throttle House if you want better cinematography
@@DannerBanks He's ALSO pretty good at responding to viewer requests! I asked for ONE vid! Not that he would change his style. I know he's busy, but he"ll probably DO it in the near future anyway. Thx.
For an ev... I surprisingly don't hate it. They're taking notes from 90s Honda/Toyota and I'm here for it.
Been waiting for this 🔥🔥
Doug has to watch the Misha video taking it around the Nuremberg ring back to back. This thing definitely takes turns.
@@TizzleT Misha seemed to like it a lot too, I don’t remember him complaining about the handling or anything like that.
The steering wheel of that car looks like something a 6-year-old would come up with after watching cartoons all Sunday long.
It’s called N cos it’s better than BMWs M
I prefer manual seats to power seats.
Doug, find an 80's Alfa GTV6 to review! Lots of them in the SD area.
Test drove this car yesterday. The acceleration was breathtaking mixed with the real car simulation feeling… wow
That simulated transmission is the one thing I wanted in an electric car! I love shifting gears when I’m driving, and I’m not a fan of having a single gear.
Doug the type of guy to want the IRS to audit through his taxes.
Considering I bought a new mach-e gtpe that has similar power, a proper frunk, better range for $48k this seems pretty expensive.
$48K new?
Yes it is expensive but without driving either it is 4000 times cooler in every way
The msrp on the mach e Performance is almost 67k.
Almost all reviews are calling the Ioniq 5N one of the best performance EVs for the money.
Yeah, with 160 less horsepower
I agree with Doug that it probably won’t sell well, but I think Hyundai knows that too. It seems to be a showcase for new tech and ideas rather than a mass market product. The fake shifting is done surprisingly well and I think it works because it’s kinda like a sim racing rig, I can see people like me who grew up playing racing games finding it fun
This car is literally a real life Gran Turismo game, and i love it!
I never thought I'd say I desperately want a Hyundai
But there you have it
Say you buy an electric Supercar and you get to pick the engine sound from every car in their lineup.....Heaven. This tech is definitely the future of sport EV's
Unpopular opinion but, I’m a fan of the manual seats . I don’t need 5 business days to adjust my seats in a sports car .
Dough the type of guy to break into a car dealership just to show off the quirks and features of a car.
Was looking forward to this video and like Doug videos generally. He definitely made some good points and was glad to see it placed at the top of the leaderboard. However, when he said it's not as good handling as a Golf R, it shows me that he's not much of a driver around the track. This thing would leave an R in a heartbeat around a decent track, let alone in a straight line. Watch the many other videos, especially Misha on the Nurburgring, following one of the chief drivers / engineers for Hyandai and tell me different. Or Harris review.
For reference channel with initial TH, their track here were the results
Golf R - 114.48
Type R - 114.41
Tesla Plaid normal - 112.50
Ionic 5N - 112.44
About the only EV i would consider looking at once prices come down.
Not only performance EVs, all electric cars should have it. It would make usage of them much better for conservative people like me
when doug says he love simulating sound engine and dislike manual operating seats this means that we are doomed 😂
Wrong and stupid comment. He loves the simulated manual not the sound, pay attention, and nobody should ever like manual seats, when it gets changed for whatever reason you have to spend days trying to get it 'right' again
Love the simulated shifts and engine sound
This electricity thing has make every brand can be a sporty Brand...
This car opens up so many possibilities for EV. I can see Hyundai making more engine sounds available for download. 👍
Crazy to see Hyundai glowing up like this. The design team alone is wow lately.
doug just uploaded
woohoo
NES' Rad Racer had a more realistic engine sound. 🤣
Having piped in engine sounds in an EV is like eating a veggie burger.
Bingo
Truly is.
Some people might hate it, but those people are usually also the one's that aren't at all in the market for it. Those who are however generally tend to really like it. ( it's a good idea ;) )
If the veggie burger is delicious, what's the problem? You are the type of people who would make issues out of non-issues.
As with most things that I learn about, I understand both opinions on the simulated engine noises and vibrations and stuff. I understand the issue of trying to make an EV look, feel and sound like a classic V8 or something, and trying to convince every car enthusiast that this is the same as those classics, or “better” or something. It’s like trying to use 2D shaders or filters on a CGI character model and try to use that style to trick the audience that this is the same as actual 2D animation, when in reality, it’s just a Toon shader or something and a lower frame rate made to mimic the 2D frame by frame style. However…that doesn’t mean that style of animation is bad or anything, and it does have its use cases, and it can be used to create a unique aesthetic if utilized creatively enough! Same thing with the simulated revving and shifting on performance EVs! It isn’t bad in itself! It’s actually quite cool, and it’s a great option for people who want it! But personally, I think that this feature could be used more creatively! And I don’t just mean giving the driver the ability to configure their own settings for the revving noises or the redline or clutch simulation. I think…it would be cool, if there were microphones near the motors that if selected, could pick up the actual noises of the electric motors whirring and buzzing, and actually project the real motor noises through the speakers! Double points if they can have the accelerator actually make the motors spin in place and spin faster depending on how hard you’re revving!
And for more smaller compact EV sport cars like coupes, roadsters, or even just hybrid versions of regular sports cars, they can actually marry a real, true manual shifter, clutch and all, (no simulated shifting except some minor electric assistance if opted into/as needed) to an electric or hybrid motor that also spins as you rev the engine!
I think if done right, this could be a really cool return for mid budget enthusiast cars with actual manual transmissions that just have optional electronic assistance rather than just a fully simulated manual. (Not that those are bad, btw. But having a genuine manual transmission that just happens to be connected an electric motor and has a few modern electronic assistance features would be pretty dang cool! Imo at least!)
This was one of the few times I was actually anticipating the Doug Score™️
It's a Hyundai. Feel sry for anyone that succumbs to any price tag over $30k... And this one starts at $66k! Guess I'm double sorry for those folks!
Same people thinking genesis are exquisite only because they copy bentley design....I had the GV70 for 1 year and was the worst nightmare I've ever had!!
@@denalisiomontpellier4064 Somehow I highly doubt that ever happened. And Genesis and Bently looks little alike.
It's not 1990, son wake up.
@@trstnhn Feel free to get one and risk by yourself buddy.
You'll likely have better luck than mine.
I owned an high mileage 2007 jaguar XJ8 a couple of years ago and I drove through Alberta winters with the vehicle,;it was bulletproof, even though everyone said I was going to get big troubles from it.
You never know.